Why are you guys so against low-income people getting welfare

>>131168475
mcdonalds and wal-mart have HR programs to help their employees get food stamps
>privatize the profits, socialize the business costs

>>131168475
because corporations are important and special and poor people are not (I seriously have been thinking a lot lately how fortunate I am to have even had the opportunity to taste a kit kat bar), and I have to bust my ass every day my whole life so some person that doesnt deserve to live could live the life of a kid off my hard earned dime
there are only colleges (corporations), corporations, laws, and competition, why would I want to help my competitors? I have kids, why would I want to help my competitors kids, my kids competitors, take food and time and tool and toy away from my kids, to give to others, every day my entire life?

I'm against all forms of welfare. I only support private charity

>>131168674
>mcdonalds and wal-mart have HR programs to help their employees get food stamps
>>privatize the profits, socialize the business costs

how similar is that to the concept of tipping

>>131168475
2008 was because the government allowed financial entities and banks to play in the same pool, faggot.

The entire problem is that people are lazy fucks that'd easily take 1600$ a month with no work and then do under the table shit for 400$ more, off the books, thank make 2400$ working and then pay taxes. If you want to argue that people are not the problem, then you're fucking wrong. Which is why you are fucking wrong.

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>>131168475

heather, you dirty dirty bitch.

>>131168910
>my hard earned dime

Your 0.000002% contribution to the federal budget?

>>131168475
Corporations produce productive people as well as a good or a service.

What the fuck do welfare recipients produce? More DINDU's and nothing.

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>why are you so against the government taking your money?

>>131169023
>how similar is that to the concept of tipping
tipping is voluntary
taxes are mandatory
i'm not into tipping some retard because they can carry a sandwich and coke 15 feet from the kitchen to my table

>>131168475
jeez haven't seen that slut since i still had dialup

I'm against welfare for more reasons than just economically. I think people should fucking starve if they are born defective/disabled. I didn't sign up to be anyone caretaker and that's what i do when i pay taxes.

>>131168475
heather brooke for you nnofappers. She deepthroats her bf.

>>131168475
Because welfare breeds dependency. Businesses generate wealth and goods, that you and the government consume.

Subsidize business taxes... aka letting them keep their own money... ????!?!

>>131168475
Welfare doesn't benefit society. It allows the unneeded to remain instead of moving to some place where they are needed.

downloading that video on KaZaa was the highlight of my life

>>131169060
??? What the fuck is that supposed to mean ???
Actually, don't bother answering it.

>>131168475
The goyim must remain poor

>>131168910

But your tax dollars are also going to fund the subsidies of your companies rival, is that not even worst? Sure you are paying for pablo welfare but how does him picking your fruit threaten you?

>>131169331
We need this get this immense machine moving in the right direction again. We just had a dindu steer it off course to the liquor store and KFC. Now it seems to be converted to a party bus for fags to violate eachother.

>>131168475
Lol, fucking Throatimus Maximus.

>>131168475
Because welfare is alienating.People need meaning.I'd have nothing against UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME FOR ALL if people had a purpose.

>>131168475
Is that Heather?

Good days.

>>131168475

Businesses create value.

Poor people do not.

>>131169414
It means you're too dumb to understand that your measly tax dollars means nothing.

what's the logic behind pol's staunch cuck stance towards cutting taxes on the rich? there can't possibly be that many millionaires on pol, so what does pol have to gain from cutting taxes on the already powerful and wealthy? the hope that some of it will trickle down to wage cuck plumbers and welders? fucking laughable

>>131169340
Same here.

>>131168475
corporations and businesses give me goods and services

low income people stab me in dark alleys for $20
fuck you faggot

>>131168475
business are good at making and retaining money

poor people, generally, are not

>>131168475
>Hey babe, you layin' out?

>>131169610
demand dictates supply, not the other way around, retard. venture capitalists don't simply invest resources into bull shit ideas with the hope that they will catch on. they find a demand for something to do it with negligible or no risk. there's a reason all technological discoveries and advances in medicine are government funded

>>131168475
That video of her where she's with a friend of hers (a skinny brunette) is my most fapped to video of all time.

I remember jacking off to that bitch like ten years ago.

>>131169612
>Actually, don't bother answering it.
?????

>>131169340
Source

>>131168475
Corporate welfare is just as bad if not worse than nigger welfare. It's basically socialist style picking winners and losers. It completely stifles free market solutions and potential cost savings.

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>>131169819
>venture capitalists don't simply invest resources into bull shit ideas with the hope that they will catch on

>>131170019
You had to be there m8. Everyone that had the internet had that video.

>>131169176
>your money
>constitutional power for congress to levy taxes

that money isn't yours, dumb ass. it's the small price you pay to live in a civilized society

ITT: please give my kike overlords tax cuts, subsidies and cheap labour but fuck my fellow white man

hitler would have you all gassed for this

>>131168475
What ever happened to her? She just disappeared.

>>131169060
how much taxes does a person pay in their lifetime, that go to welfare

>>131168475
Most people here is only against one thing, and that is other people getting welfare instead of them.

>>131170019
ideepthroat

It's still easy to find if you like 10 year old video that has been ripped from tube sites and reuploaded thousands of times so it's grainy as fuck

red pill me on why heather didnt do mucn vaginal

>>131168475
Heather could deepthroat like none other, but she only performed with her boyfriend/husband. That's not nearly degenerate enough for me. It's not fair.

>>131170100
there's a demand for smart phone, handless devices. so what? there's a reason 99% of businesses fail, because their ideas turn out to be bullshit and don't dictate demand. show me all the money invested by private interests into developing the internet or space flight

This woman is a super whore btw.

She could swallow entire cocks with no effort

>>131169819

>venture capitalists don't simply invest resources into bull shit ideas with the hope that they will catch on

that's literally what they do.

98% of VC investments are duds. the idea is that the 1 of of 20 losers becomes big and covers the loses of the other 19.

>>131169819
>>131170100
yea I'm not sure if this is just really great sarcasm or...

most technological discoveries were not government funded, but rather due to the invention of copyright law, made being an inventor a profession; whereas before it was always a hobby to make some silly toys to impress your friends

>>131169612
>It means you're too dumb to understand that your measly tax dollars means nothing.
oh,.. if thats the case, dont take them?

>>131168475
Two wrongs don't make a right. I'm against both welfare and subsidies.

>>131168952
NGO's are more NWO and more dishonest and corrupt than corporations.

>>131170461
Good luck not cuming from her BJ m8

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>>131170555

Who am I to argue with your trips, anon?

>>131170502
developing the internet was heavily subsidized to begin with, but after it gained greater exposure; of course you would recognize that virtually all the internet's improvements, such as web page optimization; that makes it actually an enjoyable technology to use, was created by private investment with the expectation it would make them some money.

whats fucked up, is the internet was heavily subsidized to begin with.

>>131171046
Internet is for porn.

>>131168475
I totally support a benefits system. It's a safety net that proves a civilisation is worth fighting for.
It shouldn't be available to immigrants in most situations as that encourages the injustice of mass colonisation that we are suffering through at the moment.
Class warfare can BTFO and so can the UK style of Conservatism that is the real 'Jew' picking pockets and grinding everyone's access to the economy down whilst being socially 'progressive'.
Our people deserve their benefits, a thousand years of victory earned them.
Too many people mix up this modern pickpocket progressive conservatism with real just right wing politics that include caring for your people's WELFARE.

>>131168475
>how can you not draw a parallel between a farmer that works from sun up, till sun down, with a yobbo that sits on the porch all day, and contributes nothing to civilization.

>>131171046
you're proving my point. government funding is needed as the initial investments towards new advances because private interests are generally not looking to take risks. you'll be hard pressed to find any evidence of entrepreneurs telling themselves, "you know what i need to spend my millions on? big fucking electrical cables laid out on the bottom of the atlantic sea to interconnect the USA with the Europeans."

show me any pharmaceutical company spending millions researching the naked mole rat's literal shit for the potential cure for cancer. this doesn't happen in the private sector unless there is a clear potential to make money off of government funded discoveries.

>>131170555
Cool

>>131168475
Cut 90% of welfare recipients off the public teat.

Single mom's must make amends and submit herself with the guy who knocked her up, the guy has his duty to learn to love her and provide for her material and emotional needs, while her duty is rear their children and give him release.

Deadbeats need to get out and work. Plenty of training programs and jobs available. Open more jobs and careers by arresting leftards and open nuclear power plants, oil refineries, coal production, hydroponic farming, more manufacturing, non-commercial home production, and open federal lands for material and labor. Federal Government locked up $160 trillion in raw materials - unlock it.

The remaining 10% are the actual disabled and should receive an increase. They are fellow humans. And their families can care for them. And with mas production and mass consumption restored, the budget would be easy to manage.

Disabled on long-term food stamps should get a choice for the family or group home: food stamps, or a single one-time payment for an in-house aquaponics system + urban livestock.

>>131171744
was the lightbulb a government funded discovery?
how about the airplane or the first car?
how about pretty much any modern invention?

the number of products created by government funding are few and far between, and when you subsidize these inventions, all you do is make the rest of the country pay for what a company would've paid in order to turn a profit.

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>>131168475
>Why are you guys so against low-income people getting welfare

I myself is on wellfare right now but only untill I can find new job as soon as possible. I think wellfare should only be allowed under a certain amount of time, and therefor it is the individuals responsibility to get a job as fast as they can so they can contibute to society and not be a parasite their whole life.


also reporting in from Mudslime land of Sweden

>>131171647

But this is wrong though.

I used to work at a warehouse where it was mandatory 6 days a week 8-12 hour days, and still a lot of my coworkers were on some form of government welfare.

>>131170154
>That's the price to live in civilized society!
The roads are broken.
Bridges are crumbling.
Our water is infested with lead.
The electrical grid is insufficient.
The police take an inordinate amount of time to reach your home in case of an emergency.
Social Security coffers will be empty by the time workers today are able to retire.
Niggers deal drugs in front of our houses.
Niggers steal our property.
The social contract is not being upheld.

Taxation is theft.

>>131172044
you're kidding yourself if any and all american inventors didn't rely on government R&D grants for their projects. i dare you to tell me google, apple, microsoft, and any other tech fuck didn't start up with huge government contracts for R&D to become what they are today

>>131168475
Heather is still and will forever be my queen.

give us your wallet OP, and lets see how much wealth we can redistribute :^)

>>131168475
Businesses employ people while welfare deflates currency. Until automation takes over there is no such thing as free credit.

>>131171922

What if the guy who knocked her up cannot be found, or refuses to care for the mother and child? Will you make it a criminal charge to impregnate a woman and then not marry (or otherwise coinhabit with) them?

You say there are plenty of training programs available; are they free to access? Do they require the trainee to train full time? If so, what measures will you bring in to ensure that lack of funds will not prevent potential trainees (after all, if they are required to train full time, they will be unlikely to meet rent and other living costs).

Is there a lack of oil refinery capacity? Is demand for coal high enough to make opening (or reopening, where relevant) mines economical? What new manufacturing do you propose and where will it be situated? How do you propose to make it competitive?

>>131168475
Welfare people give nothing for their handouts. Businesses either perform a service or hire people and help strengthen the community. That said, I'm typically against business subsidies as well.

>>131170310
$100k+

>>131172408
Still better than roughing it out on your own. Once we left our tribes behind for civilization we can only move forward. We are born into this world and the only support structures that exist are for the masses. You are dreaming for a world that doesnt exist.

>>131170154
>lel your money is ours to redistribute

Fuck you, faggot. Kill yourself, you fucking commie.

>>131172408
I noticed that there has a lot of construction around my area.
Could it be that Dahnald is doing something with those problems!?

>>131168475
eat shit. the housing meltdown was caused by people people willingly buying homes with shite credit and not reading the fine print. i can buy a house with NO money down? no goofus, you can't. not without an astronomical APR thats going to kick in after a year or two.....

>>131169937
I remember jacking off to that bitch ten seconds ago

>>131168475
Two wrongs make a right fallacy. There shouldn't be welfare to anyone including corporations.

>>131173164
Nah, I can't jack off if it isn't high definition nowadays.

>>131168674
Implying what? What every single job should be able to support a family? Not all jobs are equal. Not all salaries are equal.

God damn i miss that girl. Women around the world should take notes on her technique

>>131168475
>>131170934
Sauce on the grill?

>>131171647

Oh, yah, and farmers are usually one of the biggest receivers of government subsidies.

>>131168475
I bust ass during the good years and travel the world while on job-attached unemployment during the shit years. Survey is comfy.

>>131168475
man I blew so many loads to this chick

>>131168475
>corporations and business get a bunch of government subsidies
im not ok with this either

>>131168475
I came so hard the 1st time I saw that video of her deep throating a cock and she pulled that bikini around her boobs. I was like 14 shit was hot as fuck

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Don't think anyone is actually against welfare all together.
The issue is how to actually benefit people with a safety net but not have the population take advantage and abuse the net into using it as the sole means of sustainability for their livelihood.
The entire idea of welfare is to help those in need and assist them on their way to becoming self reliant once again, not to continuously allow for and creat a demand of the welfare slave state.
Under Obama the amount of food stamp users increased by over 75%. Was the Obama economy so terrible that more people fell into hard times over 8 years? No. The welfare state increased it's reach with zero incentive to stop utilizing it by the population that it was created for and expanded for.

Tldr, welfare is fine, welfare dependence is not.

>>131173432
fine. cut off all benefits for people that work full-time jobs and watch them start openly robbing their employers to eat
you will see the companies make some quick changes

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>>131168475
Because the real NWO agenda is to turn people against their own, build divisions and stop people caring what the elites of this world do and how they are buttfucking their countries harder than any welfare budget has or could.
They are slowly killing the ability for the ordinary citizen to collectivize and fight back. So called Anti-Terror legislation helps too.
/pol/ really are idiots for not seeing this, sweating the small stuff and missing the bigger picture.

>>131168475
Fuck both of those things

>>131170627
Nice one. Socialist stopped replying. I hope he's rethinking his life choices right now.

>>131169642
We are in a bind right now as a country. Tax cuts for the rich are an incentive for companies to stay in america and employ americans. This bandaid solution is just going to further increase inequality and monopoly. So either globalism is just going to win in the end or they have a plan and are just need to bide their time a little longer.

>>131168475
END THE GODDAMN FED ALREADY YOU FUCKS


also, many lowlifes leech off of welfare and they don't even try to get their shit together, so it's normal others are sore about it, ain't it?

>>131173093
calling that communist is the most ironic thing you could do considering it was a concept our government created before the idea of communism even existed

>>131173522
heather from ideepthroat.com

GOAT dicksucker.

>>131170216
She started a family.

>>131169179
Essentially this. Good servers know their menus and can offer recommendations, and are generally expected to feel you out sell you on drinks and meals you'll like. When you get God service, you're generally happy to tip. I know of a few places like that. Most of the Greek diners around here are like that - I'm on a first-name basis with servers.

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>>131168952
>private charity
"We said we'll take a portion if the donations, but we never said how much!"

>>131174302
W-with a fucking white male, right?

>>131174180
Not at all. "it's the small price you pay to live in a civilized society" might have been a reasonable point in 1776. Today, in the context of what modern governments do, it's a communist sentiment.

>>131172738
I don't think you have an understanding of how welfare works. Those who are typically able to work are given strong incentives to work, even if the pay rate isn't high enough, and so they will end up with work even if they still have to be partially supported by the state. Those who do nothing and are living off solely on what the government provides for them either do so because they have sufficient reason to be unable to work or do so temporarily.

>>131168475
Where is she now?

>>131172738
>Businesses either perform a service or hire people and help strengthen the community.
No. they don't. They outsource everything, drop wages domesticly by using non-welfare recipients (sometimes from the same places they have outsourced to) and beg the government to hand out free money so their consumer base grows.

I'm not on the left, but don't fall iinto the trap of being a corporate-cuck. It is a complex scam.

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>>131174597
Aaron Burr was right.

>>131174503
shit works out p well at your local pub if you have an in with a bartender. I regularly get a few drafts and than have a can/bottle of something and only see the can/bottle on the bill because it's traceable stock. So I tip 3x the cost of the can/bottle. We both walk away happy.

>>131170216
Last I heard she divorced the husband and now goes by another name. Kid must be like 12 by now, imagine finding your mom sucking your dads dick online.

>>131174597
Levying taxes is the same as common ownership of the means of production?

>>131175068
Could be worse, you could find your mom sucking another guys dick online

>>131172408
>Autistic screaming
All systems require violence. Who gives a shit if it is violent? Yes, I would have the state put a gun to the head of the top earners. Who fucking cares? No one cares about your moral high ground.

>>131168475
I don't know many who are for both. There is this obession with this teenage argument. Whenever you bring this question to the masses who don't support welfare nearly all will say "get rid of that too" don't confuse the public's opinion to back room dealing *only* possible because lefties love to fill the government's purse.

More importantly. You cannot argue with corporations taking advantage of welfare. McDonald's et al who advise on food stamps are playing by the rules.

>>131175124
Could be even worse, you find your dad sucking another guys dick online

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>>131168910

problem wagie?

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>>131168475
This is by far the worst argument. Dont expect things to easily change, especially when major corporations have powerful lobbying firms in DC. They really dear sing the gravy train end for those at the top.

>>131168674
This so much is certain. Even more triggering is seeing an EBT card or WIC vouchers paying for a basket full of goods. My chest pains are a bit milder if I witness that in line.

>>131170934
Seriously, this bitch was the best. I had a gf I showed a bunch of her vids to, and was totally willing to train on my cock to deep throat like her, but could never come close to that level of majesty, even after months of practice. Fuck you for derailing me from this thread.

>>131174685
>Welfare people give nothing for their handouts.
This is exactly how welfare works. You receive welfare without needing to provide something in return. That's the point. Even you mentioned the existence of
>Those who do nothing and are living off solely on what the government provides for them

>Levying taxes is the same as common ownership of the means of production?
Let's presume that China, North Korea, and Venezuela are examples of "true communism." Because if we say communism is "just an economic thing," then we're buying into a communist lie. The nature of the communist death cult is that it lies.

So with that in mind, yes, the combination of levying taxes on the middle class, welfare and public assistance, a lack of enforcement of current immigration law and eligibility of non-citizens for public assistance, many of whom are openly supportive of communism, a democracy that rewards vote-buying, and a mainstream political party endorsed by the Communist Party that doesn't disavow communism, which uses violence and censorship to push for the above mentioned mess, all lead up to the same kind of communism found in China, North Korea, and Venezuela.

>>131168475
I'm against both though.

>>131169232
I haven't seen very much porn on here that was good but that video is fuggin great.

>>131169232
Like mid 2000s if my dick remembers right?

>>131176281
>mid-2000s

The earliest I can recall is 2001 -- but that's not to say she didn't do stuff earlier.

>>131176393
I was 13 in 2001, no broadband. Kek

>>131173522
Are you 12?

>>131171922

No.

Give men reproductive rights.

Mandatory abortion if there's not explicit consent from both parties.

African Americans will stop existing in 50 years, and men will stop having their lives fucked over by the feminist courts.

>>131169179
> tipping is voluntary
Once I tipped less than 10% by mistake.
The *owner* of the business came to require the rest of the money and he was very rude

>>131169059
god, she needs to re-film it all in 1080p.

Have shitty staff and end up with a shitty business with a shitty reputation. That ordering machine isn't going to care if someone writes fuck you across its screen and vomits at its feet. Then good luck for the experience of the next customer

They'll pay a few bucks more and go somewhere better

>>131168475
im against corporate welfare and governmaent subsidies

>>131177884
Heard she died though.

>>131170934
Holy shit, source? I'm pretty sure this is the first thing I ever jerked off to.

>>131182653
too bad that something like a "search engine" doesn't exist to confirm or deny these stupid facts

the internet is so confusing to the millennials

>>131176393

yeah, somewhere around that time, 2000ish. I think i downloaded her stuff from napster back then. Came with a whole bunch of free virusses too.

Goddamn i miss that time.

>>131177402
hope you told him to go fuck himself and pay his employees properly

shifting the cost of employment to the customer in that way is fucking retarded

>>131169642
>cutting the corporate tax is somehow a tax cut for the rich
You know people still have to pay taxes on their income and capital gains right? All the corporate tax does is push money out of the US economy and into tax havens.

>>131172670
If the man is unknown or cannot be found then it would go to case law. If the father is unknown: the woman would need to place the child up for adoption, rely on family/religious community for support, or work from home and do her best. If the father is a deadbeat, then it's up to the woman and her family to handle it in civil court.

Training programs that are "free" are usually sponsored by corporations and entites looking to directly hire. Rent, food, etc. is still the individual's responsibility. If what I'm proposing here is implemented, plenty of businesses can lift their hiring and pay raise freezes as they will have the stability of an open market plus areas of expansion. Low skills jobs will still exist - as the stepping stones they were meant to be.

Yes, there is a lack of oil refineries. There are numerous existing coal power plants taken offline by Obama and other leftards. The demands are there as the high prices leftist's keep citing as keeping down the poor we're artificially created via regulations.

As for manufacturing; I don't need to "propose" anything as the markets already exist, and they would be situated within the impoverished areas of the US. More jobs, more income, less poverty, less problems.

And I don't need to propose anything to create competition, it exists already. Its basic economics: companies must compete by lowering their prices by sacrificing profits, then they must innovate to make production cheaper to make up for the profit loss. This, coupled with mass production, leads to better sales, which leads to better living standards... really, is this not obvious?

>>131176928
Been thinking about men's rights. A legal question: If a woman had a hidden constitutional right to abort a baby (Supreme Court claims in Roe v Wade to have found said right); then logically a man has a constitutional right to kill the woman for killing his baby, correct?

>>131168910
Why do you see poor people as your competitors? Are you evil? Good thing a piece of shit like yourself isn't rich or in power.

>>131175795
NEET Power!

>>131168475

Subsidizing the underclass to breed is basically the dumbest thing a country can do. It's literally national suicide.

God there must be some sort of modern heather-tier girl making videos right?
I recall some recent brown asian (flip or thai or something) that made DT vids that were equally as good except better quality. Problem was the throatpies are behind a paywall, cut out of the videos and preumably not popular enough to be found uncut elsewhere.

Wow i mad

>>131168475

Because they're fascist Stormfags who don't actually think critically about their indoctrination; they just accept it.

>>131191381
There's another one of these obscure blowjob sluts that makes videos but I can't find anything new.

Sweet Chiara. My amateur waifu. She's amazing.

>>131168910
>I seriously have been thinking a lot lately how fortunate I am to have even had the opportunity to taste a kit kat bar

Reading this reassures me that I don't have to feel bad about setting my own sights low, /pol/.