It blows my mind how little people seem to appreciate the severity

>>131164989
hahaha this is amazing bait

>>131164989
If you have a source for this statistic, does it include racial stats?

>>131164989
how much does it increase for the guy if some stupid bitch that doesnt realize guns are the real deal and shoots her boyfriend while butthurt? until i see that stat idc about yours OP and chances are id call it fake news if it doesnt conform to my view anyway

>>131164989
That's okay. Women are cunts.

Working as intended. No one of value is in those stats.

She would be killed in some other way if there were no gunz.

>>131165802

60 suicides, 33 gang members. If people are taking the blackpill, that's their business, and the latter is basically a public service.

muh 2nd amendment gun fags are the worst.

the state needs to have monopoly on force. if not there would be anarchy. it doesn't make any sense at all to say "everyone should have weapons, so they can defend in case of tyranny of the state".

>>131164989
>NRA-funded mass delusion

Where does this idea even come from?

What is the NRA doing to "delude" people? Where are they getting the money to do it? Why are so many people so easily taken in by this propaganda, to the tune of 160,000,000 Americans? And if it's so easy to fool people, why doesn't the anti-gun camp just do the same thing in reverse?

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>>131164989
Get triggered /noguns/. Gun ownership is on the rise in Canada too
Bonus fact: /noguns/ aren't willing to face the extra responsibilities in order to be able to stop at no length to protect their loved ones.
You literally hate children if you don't own guns.

>>131164989
5x higher chance of being killed with a gun specificity, doesn't mean it's higher than being killed by other means.
It's the same bs as suicide, just because people with guns choose to use the gun doesn't mean they wouldn't kill themselves otherwise using different means.

>>131165802
Most of them gang members so who gives a shit, the actual number of murders for white americans is comparable to other white countries.

>>131165829
Also niggers

>>131165861
Ok? Is this making the point that guns aren't death rays after all.

>>131166218
It's good to see that you don't have any illegal opinions, Hans.

>>131166313
>What is the NRA doing to "delude" people?
That guns are good.

>Where are they getting the money to do it?
Donation by gun nuts.

>Why are so many people so easily taken in by this propaganda, to the tune of 160,000,000 Americans?
Fragile masculinity requires compensating with guns.

>And if it's so easy to fool people, why doesn't the anti-gun camp just do the same thing in reverse?
That's what this thread is for.

>>131166438
The best way to protect your loved ones is to not own a gun. You are more likely to use a gun to kill yourself or a family member than use it for home defense.

>>131164989
Shouldn't the lack of presence of a gun in a domestic violence situation reduce the likelyhood of a woman being shot by 100%. How are you still 20% as likely to be shot with no gun as you are with a gun present?

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>>131166705
>Fragile masculinity requires compensating with guns.
Gun grabbers are the most guilty of this, but you have zero self-awareness.

>>131164989

If there is no gun... How does a woman get shot and killed? There is literally no chance of her being shot and killed if there is no gun with which to shoot her. There for 5 x 0 = 0. There is no chance she'll be shot and killed.

>>131167175
Home invasion and the background risk of being shot outside the house.
Having a gun inside means she can kill herself with it (this also enters the murder stats for some reason), have an accident or get shot by her partner.

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>>131166781
>*BANG*
>Some iced out thug just kicked on your door. The screws holding your striker plate in sheared off instantly.
>*BANG*
>Without the striker plate preventing movement the latch pin has smashed into the door frame causing it to fail.
>3 seconds have elapsed.
>In 2 more seconds the next time he kicks your door he's in your house. He's completely fucked up on meth. He doesn't give a fuck about anything but keeping his rush going. Your daughter is in the bedroom nearest the front door and she's already gotten out of bed to investigate the scary sounds and when that iced up motherfucker sees her...
>When he rapes and strangles her after easily subduing you at least as the lights go out you will know... at least I virtue signaled about the dangers of gun ownership...

>>131166705
>guns are good.

Correct.

The rest of your post didn't make sense, so I didn't read it.

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>>131164989
Fuck off back to Canada, shill

Why would you shoot your wife instead of just beating her?

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>>131164989
so if without a gun the chance of getting shot is 0, then with a gun present the chance is 0 times 5?
0*5=0
amazing!

>>131167445
Neither home invasion nor being shot outside the home qualifies as 'in a domestic violence situation'. He's exactly right, it's such a bullshit stat that it doesn't even make sense before you try to source it

Hol up.

when there are no guns, how can women get shot only five times less ?

>>131167858
Crossbows

>>131167802
Shit I forgot the "domestic violence situation" part, yes the whole thing is completely retarded.

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>>131164989
Thanks again for the reminder that 53% of all statistics are made up on the spot maplenuts

>>131164989
>Increases the risk by 5 times
english is not my first or even second language, so excuse me if im wrong, but shouldnt it be
>Increases the risk 5 times
or
>Increases the risk by a factor of 5

genuanely bothering me now.

>>131164989
Wait, what? How the fuck does she get shot without a gun present?

>>131167997
>this meme again
Mujahideen couldn't kick the Soviets out until the US gave them Stingers.

You can't WIN a war with rifles alone. You can fight one, but you can't WIN it. That's all guerilla "war" is. A holding action.

Simply ban Democrats from owning guns and gun violence will plunge to Swiss levels.

>>131168252
It's bullshit to begin with. She can't be shot if there's no firearm present.

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>>131164989
Guns don't kill people. Niggers kill people.

>>131164989
Day of the rake soon?

>>131164989
AMERICA HAS 50 MILIONS OF NIGGERS.
THAT IS MORE THAN MOST COUNTRIES IN ASIA OR SOUTH AMERICA.

POST THE STATISTICS ONLY FOR WHITES YOU MISLEADING CUNT

>>131166999
Anyone who thinks guns intersect with identity is a huge faggot.
Shame, I didn't know Rollins was a tweaker lunatic with nothing worth saying.
/endsarcasm

>>131166999
Lmao it doesn't matter how strong you are, if a nigger pulls a piece on you and you're unarmed then good luck.

>>131168267
>Mujahideen couldn't kick the Soviets out until the US gave them Stingers
But that's wrong. The mujahideen were using 30mm guns to shoot at the hinds and taking a few out (cause they weren't the modern dying tanks), but those weren't very portable and to begin with, making advances slow. All the stingers did was allow for them to do it quicker.

>>131164989
Assuming the situation is no gun vs. gun, 0 times 5 is 0...

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>>131164989
Go fuck yourself OP

SHALL

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Liberal statistics.
Since liberals are relativists...

>>131164989
honestly, I agreed with you up until recently.

Then I started questioning myself and my views of reality/society while doing my meditations, and I came to the conclusion, that the only way for humanity to reach some sort of happy ending, would be to remove around 80 percent of the populace.

I feel like many a powerful person reached the same conclusion, just a long ass time ago. And what better way to clear out the genepool than by letting crazy fuckers kill eachother.

>>131166999

if you fuck my wife, its okay
if you disagree with me, its okay too,
if you kill me, its nothing because im a passive cuck

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>>131164989

Slide thread

SAGE goes in all fields.

>>131168543
What Rollins is saying is, "look at me, I lift, I can take care of myself without a gun".
He doesn't even realize that not everyone can fight back or run away.
What about the 80yo grandma or 13yo kid who's alone and someone breaks into the house?

>>131168548
Ironically a nigger killed (WITH A GUN) his best friend. And Rollins couldn't do shit about it and ran away.

>>131168586
Mujahideen never won a set piece battle before they got Stingers.

Never lost one after.

As you said, the 30mm were inferior to the Stingers. These inferioties stack up until your army is a pile of shit. In 1985 the Mujahideen were coralled in the North-West province and they didn't break out until 1987. Stingers arrived in September 1986.

I wouldn't credit too much to the Stinger effect, but I wouldn't discount it either. Rifles don't win wars, but a weapon that shuts down your enemy's helicopters - which we know are what insurgents fear most - might. Guess what Americlap fudds don't have a lot of lying around.

MANPADS.

>>131168835
NOT

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>>131164989

That study is complete BS, you better read what it really says before you go spreading the information in the picture. Crime is HALF what is was in the 90s. What we really have is a nigger problem, not a gun problem.

bending over decreases the risk of being killed

news

>>131168586
>All the stingers did was allow for them to do it quicker.

lmfao that's the whole fucking point retard

>>131164989
But isn't five time zero...zero? Does that mean gun control doesn't work if there is a number to multiply by 5?

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>>131169301
This is total bullshit.
The Soviets were already in a full scale withdrawal posture when stingers came in. They were just insult to injury. A chance for the West to rub USSRs nose in slav Vietnam.

Their are several good books on this topic if you would like to educate yourself.

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>>131164989
Really makes me think

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>>131164989
Wow

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>>131164989
...whoa...

>>131165802
Wrong it's 93 million

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>>131164989
APOLOGIZE

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>>131164989
Niggers shooting each other with illegal hand guns in the most liberal cities has nothing to do with the NRA retard.

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>>131164989
Well /pol/?

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>>131164989
>It blows my mind how little people seem to appreciate the severity of the spoon situation in America. When a mass fattening happens and a dozen people become obese it's major news but they puff up by the thousands unnecessarily each year
>What is it even going to take to snap 150+ million people out of their food industry-funded mass delusion ?

>>131169743
>The Soviets were already in a full scale withdrawal posture when stingers came in
True, and I don't deny that and never did, but the Afghans did not become an effective fighting force until they got Stingers.

The Soviets were withdrawing because of US sanctions, NOT because of Afghan success, because pre-Stinger the Afghans did not have success. Like I said, they never won a battle pre-Stinger.

Thus showing that you need modern weapons to beat modern opponents, not your fucking AR-15.

>>131164989
Fuck off obongo-leaf. Stop worrying about the burger's niggers problems and start worrying about Canada's problems you cuck

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>>131164989
Hmmmmmmmm

>The presence of a gun.....
>Increases the risk of the woman being shot

Two things came to mind.
No guns only decreases your chances of not getting shot it doesn't eliminate them. (Bow and Arrows BTFO.)
and
Thank God I'm not a woman.

I love guns now.

>>131167727
U win

>>131164989
Mass shootings only happen in areas with strict gun control or areas least likely for the victims to be armed. Gun control doesn't work on criminals and psychopaths.

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>>131170523
>White (Hispanic)

>>131170323
At present, criminals and psychopaths don't make their own guns. Gun 'control' laws don't work to stop them but a total prohibition on the manufacture and sale of firearms would eliminate 99.99% of gun crimes within 100 years or so

>>131166905
Gun grabbing liberals can't into statistics, same reason they pad their "gun violence" stats with suicide.

>>131170884
There was no rebuttal to his points anywhere in your statement. You should feel stupid. And bad.

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>>131164989
All those stats your posting, exclude that like 80% is done by niggers, why don't we just get rid of them instead of getting rid of our guns?

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>>131164989
Here you go maplenigger. This is the one and only post you'll get out of me, because i don't have the patience or energy to reeducate every deluded leftist with his cherrypicked and manipulated data.

It takes two hours to undo the mess it takes you ten minutes to create, and for this you are not only a spineless curr but a baser animal, an unthinking creature not fit to live in america, and damn sure i would never trust you on a gun range, i would never loan you my rifle, and i would never expect you to have my back in any life or death situation.

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>>131164989

Take out our nogs and spics, and we have the same rate, if not lower, of gun violence that any European country has. Also, you're >A >FUCKING >LEAF

Who gives a shit what you think? Fix your own faggot prime minister and your fag/chink filled cities before you start bitching about some other country.

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>>131171044
Ok... If it'll make you feel better. Here's a map of mass shootings, notice all those pins in the south? Does Texas qualify as a place with strict gun control now? How about South Carolina?

>>131171398

fuck yes, gotta love them slavs, they don't pull any punches

>>131167727
Best post.

>>131166218
>the state needs a monopoly on force
I agree with you on this. If the state wants to genocide Jews then the Jews shouldn't have the power to stop it.
You really activated my almonds there Goebbels.

>>131171996
He was wrong. The state needs to have a monopoly on legitimate force, not just "force."

And in fact the state doesn't have a monopoly on force. That's what criminals are.

Thank you leaf! This is the motivation I needed to finally buy my AR.

Ruger AR556 with 30 rd. mag. Might purchase a 100 rd also. Enjoy your muslim speech ban, and good luck when mohammad decides to jihad your ass

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>>131171625

Hmmm, I wonder what the correlation could be?

>>131170030
the point of an insurgency is not to be an effective fighting force capable of "winning battles". It's to make the cost of engagement so high that fighting battles is pointless

>>131172507
KEK

If you control for race, the white gun violence rate is negligible and comparable to Switzerland's. The black gun violence rate is comparable to Africa. As a white person who lives around mostly white people, but who might need to use my gun to defend against a black crackhead, the status quo is acceptable.

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>>131164989
You know how many people would need to be killed by guns in order for guns to leave the hands of the people?

All of them.

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>>131172507
Not that I disagree, but honestly it looks to correlate closer to total population density

>>131167575
Nice try, at first, if that guy is able to put down my door with a kick, there's no way a bullet can hurt mr. methhulk, maybe you have paper doors, so buy doors, not guns.

Also, the dude gets in and is touching my daughter, i just have te beat the living shit out of him, would you just shoot him and risk to kill your daughter? yeah probably.

And I'm not even including alarms, properly built buildings (does anyone really have bedrooms next to the house entrance?), not living in a shithole full of drug addicts, etc. in the ecuation just to avoid blowing up your mind.

Ban leafposting.
Mods, you can make this happen

>>131164989
The dirty secret about your stance, is that gun violence is overwhelmingly a leftist, progressive problem.

The vast majority of gun violence happens in Democrat voting, strong-hold inner-city areas.

Why are lefties so violent? And why can't lefties control themselves?

After the Bernie supporting shooter of Rep. Scalise...the argument is well established that right-winger NEED firearms as protection from leftist lunes!

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>>131170884
The total prohibition of anything has never in history halted its demand nor its ability to be distributed. Prohibition on alcohol in our country didn't work. The war on drugs has never worked. And despite everything, third-world shitholes still find a way to get weapons either from us, other governments, or arms dealers. The only thing banning guns will do in our country is create a black market for them. The crime rate will remain the same. People like you refuse to accept the actual problem which is niggers.

>>131164989
mass delusion<a founding prerogative of one of the most successful if not thee most successful country on planet earth to date

>>131164989

>NRA-funded mass delusion

If the NRA is protecting my right to fuck up commie libshits like you who try to decrease my power and by extension my representation in local government and ability to defend myself and possessions then they are my friend.

>>131164989
>131164989
increases the risk by five times what?
whats the initial risk?

>>131170809
It's the CDC category, talk to them. It essentially means Hispanic since they classify nearly all Hispanics as white

>>131172545
And they didn't even succeed at that either. They got coralled into one province and the USSR seized nearly all of Afghanistan and no longer needed to even fight battles - just contain them.

Again, the USSR didn't retreat because of any effective resistance in any way but the Mujahideen. They retreated because of US sanctions.

This is where bullshit like "but the insurgency eroded the will to fight/increased the cost of the occupation to the point it changed the sanctions/boon of conquest value comparison" crops up. And to some extend that's true. But! Insurgencies have existed for as long as conquest has. Sometimes they work. Usually, they don't. There were insurgencies in the 1400s, the 1600s, the 1800s, just like there are today and they were speedbumps on the road to empire. Relying on a highly contextual alignment of geopolitical facts to magically free you is not preferable to a large, conventional army - and, most importantly, has nothing to do with the guerillas. Whether the US sanctions the USSR or not cannot be influenced by the Mujahideen. It's all just stabbing in the dark and hoping for the fucking best.

I am incredibly skeptical of the capacity of insurgency to accomplish anything, mostly because most insurgencies never achieve anything and are miraculously saved by something out of their control - like US aid and sanctions, or Soviet aid and sanctions, or Russian aid and sanctions, or UN peacekeepers appearing, or any number of things.

In modernity there is a trend towards insurgencies surviving because of the rise of negotiated peace. Wars are no longer fought to final victory - instead they are fought to a UN-brokered ceasefire. In that sense, insurgencies are harder to lose. But they're no easier to win.

Which brings us back to Fudds and their raifus. Rifles don't win wars. You need a large, conventional army to win wars. That is, after all, the point of one.

>>131172896
>After the Bernie supporting shooter of Rep. Scalise...the argument is well established that right-winger NEED firearms as protection from leftist lunes!

Weak and reactionary.

After Dylan Roof's massacre the argument is well established that negros NEED firearms to protect themselves against the last vestiges of the Rhodesian Empire.

>>131170030
>The Soviets were withdrawing because of US sanctions
>they never won a battle pre-Stinger.

You just admitted the Stinger had nothing to do with why they won. How do you manage to see what you're typing when you have your head up your ass?

>>131173118
Don't ask stupid questions, goy. 20%, obviously to make it 100%. Now America, give up your guns to u--them

Only niggers kill each other mostly even in the South fucking Leaf faggot . Also mass shooting are rare niggers shooting each other in the ghetto are not mass shooting just another day in the hood . Now kill yourself

Saskatoon is the murder capital of Canada and its all stabbings.

>>131164989
>Did you know you're more likely to get shot if there is a gun!?!?
kys

>>131173282
>the Stinger had nothing to do with why they won
The point is that without the Stinger they were totally ineffective and couldn't win a single battle, got pushed into a corner of the country, and sat there being shat on until magic from outside came and saved them. And that will be the role of the US "resistance" in this fantasy war of government vs people.

Thus sinking the "MUH RIFLES, MUH SECOND AMENDMENT" screencap.

Unless you have a MANPAD and an ATGM in your garage you aren't going to make an effective contribution to anything.

It was not an example of how to win an insurgency at all, because the Soviets were planning to withdraw in 1985 anyway. It's just an example of how insurgents with rifles and Chinese heavy machine guns get totally fucking annihilated. US civilians don't even have Chinese heavy machine guns.

Every 53 hours an LEO is killed on duty, violently. That is all I care about regarding gun crimes. The other 90-95% of Violent Gun Crimes are just niggers in Gangs and spics with MS13 and Cartels killing each other and helping to keep their numbers manageable.

>>131172952
alcohol consumption declined dramatically during Prohibition. Cirrhosis death rates for men were 29.5 per 100,000 in 1911 and 10.7 in 1929. Admissions to state mental hospitals for alcoholic psychosis declined from 10.1 per 100,000 in 1919 to 4.7 in 1928.

Arrests for public drunkennness and disorderly conduct declined 50 percent between 1916 and 1922. For the population as a whole, the best estimates are that consumption of alcohol declined by 30 percent to 50 percent.

The lack of total success is not total failure

>>131172799
>there's no way a bullet can hurt mr. methhulk
>being this retarded

>>131164989
Who needs a gun in an educational institution? Just put a piece of black construction paper in the window of the classroom door when a crazed gunman shows up blasting people left and right.

>>131173254
Nice cherry picking.

The FACT is, the overwhelming majority of mass shooter in the last 10 years have been registered Democrat.

Navy Yard Shooter - Obama voter

Ft. Hood shooter - Muslim, registered Democrat, Obama voter

Aurora Theatre Shooter - Leftist, Obama campaign worker and voter.

Rep Gifford shooter - Communist


You wanna get peppered with more examples....weakling?

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>>131172799
>there's no way a bullet can hurt mr. methhulk

You clearly don't know how bullets work. We shouldn't expect common sense intelligence from a moor.

>>131164989
If there is no presence of a gun she has 0% chance of getting shot

So if there is a gun, it's 5 times 0 percent?

>>131172224
What makes force legitimate?
The commies and nazis were legitimate governments exercising legitimate force.

The People must have the means to depose the government if need be.
Any government with a monopoly on force is a tyranny waiting to happen.

>>131173805
Handguns have an 80% survival rate, even with multiple shots.

Methhulk will have the bullet-carrying capacity of a Zulu warrior, whom even dum-dum bullets cannot stop.

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>>131164989
If you say you'd never thought of shooting your wife if you had a gun you are a liar.

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>>131170523
>native americans higher than whites
really nigs my nogs

>>131164989
Canadians should be completely banned from posting

I hate leafs because of this site

>>131173913
>What makes force legitimate?
Muh feels.

Literally.

A critical mass of muh feels makes force legitimate.

>Any government with a monopoly on force is a tyranny waiting to happen.
All government is tyranny. That's the point. Government is there to restrict us.

>>131164989
>abusive husband has gun
>increases chances of you being shot

woah... really gets the noggin a joggin, before I thought abusive husbands could just materialize a gun out of thin air to shoot their wife with

>>131164989
most of the people who die from gun deaths are gangbanging niggers

90% of gun deaths in America are niggers shooting each other over a "business disagreement".

>>131173945
The average US Law Enforcement shooting is a total of four handgun caliber projectiles discharged before incapacitation of threat.

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>>131172507
Absolutely BTFO

>>131173775
>nice cherry picking
>proceeds to cherry pick other examples
Robert Lewis Dear
Scott Roeder
James Kopp

I promise we can do this shit all day. The FACT is that there's plenty of trigger happy dumb fucks from the right and left wing

>>131172799
>hurr durr you scared of someone breaking down your door? PUSSY BUY NEW DOORS
>n-n-nevermind the windows they don't c-count
>BULLETS DON'T STOP STRONG METH PEOPLE!!
>but I can beat them up!!
kill yourself

Excluding basketball americans we have less gun crime than countries in europe per capita.

Also there were more killings with hammers last year than rifles.

>>131173970
White man came across the sea, he brought us pain and misery

>>131164989
The presence of a pool increases the risk of drowning, too, what's your point?

>>131164989
> Presence of gun
> In domestic violnce situation
> Risk of woman being SHOT
Duh, what are guns for... another shit misrepresentation of statistics.

>>131164989

This is such a retarded stat though. If no gun is present, the risk of the woman being shot is 0.

How much does the presence of a knife increase her risk of being stabbed?

Shit thread, sage

>>131174476
How much does the presence of a woman increase the likelyhood someone in this thread could get laid?

>>131174112
Incapacitation =/= death.

Most people are incapacitated by pain or shock, not by organs no longer functioning. A methhead in full swing is not susceptible to pain or shock.

If you want good effect on target use a shotgun.

>>131170884
around 10% of guns pulled from the streets of Australian cities are homemade by biker gang members. the more restrictions on guns, the more this number will rise. your arguement is invalid

>>131174773
I'll take my chances that Tyrone and markeiff aren't quite as resourceful as your Australian biker gangs

>>131174773
They're way more expensive and harder to get.

Which is the point.

>>131174147
No lad, you won't be here all day with examples because you will run out of ammo...

Sandy Hook
UVA
2003 Lockheed Martin disgruntled employee
Andrew Engeldinger/ Minneapolis

And the list can extend past 10 years if you like. It is more than substantiated that lefties ARE more violent and literally twice as likely to be mentally ill than a right-winger.

>>131174748
However, the majority of justifiable US-LE shootings are with our sidearms. It is what we have on us immediately, and all of the time. All State-level law enforcement cruisers within my State are equipped with a patrol carbine(Select fire M4A1/M4A1 clone) and a shotgun, as well as several sorts of LTL's.

>>131166781
>You are more likely to use a gun to kill yourself or a family member than use it for home defense.
So? If you're going to kill yourself or a family member, you're going to do it anyway. It's not like people kill others because it's convenient.

>>131174153
Hahahaha, wow, guys you are awesome, you are not even able to read.
1.A fucking normal door can't be kicked down.
2. If someome can reach the windows you just put metal bars there.
3. I was just jokingly saying that if the junkie could break my door it means he's a monster, probably with bulletproof skin and able to fly.
4. It's obviously safer to beat him up while he is raping your daughter than shooting them both, isn't it?

But anyway, since the methhead probably has bought a gun in 'murica your daughter is already dead, so who cares about her anymore, just shoot as many times as possible while yelling "Freeduuuum".

>>131174430
I have to use this more often.

>>131175252
Correct, and I'm not sure what the point is.

Handguns will disable people generally speaking, but they don't kill them. Generally speaking.

If you have a person who is resistant to being disabled the way a handgun disables people - which is pain and shock - like a methhulk, your handgun will have a disappointing effect.

I'm not saying handguns are bad. They're good. That's why they're used. If they didn't work people wouldn't use them. But they are not the gun I would bring to a fight with a methhulk for the reasons I've outlined.

In fact, they are not the gun I'd bring to ANY fight. They are just the gun I'd probably have, because they're handy guns to carry around as opposed to a 4-gauge riot gun.

>>131165802
>>131165829
>>131165861

None of this matters. Gun ownership is a right, and will always be that way.

>>131166905
Maybe one in five abusers go out and go purchase a firearm "just for the occasion"?

It's libtards, you know it doesn't need to make any sense.

>>131168100
There are no monsters in pacman either

What's that? A gun thread?
Just dropping my usual go-to vids.

Statistics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE

MORE Statistics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGTUcS-yQtQ

Observation and Solution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwLjFm6GMBM

Hint: It's niggers.

>>131175175
You've got to be fucking kidding me with this list as your support to your claim.

Adam Lanza was an NRA member and theirs no evidence he ever voted, let alone voted democrat. Everyone in Connecticut isn't a left-winger

Seung-Hui Cho was, first of all, a resident alien and ineligible to vote in the U.S. Even if he could, Virginia is, as mentioned before, a non-partisan registrations state. He was not a registered Democrat.

I don't know the other 2 off the top of my head. If I assume you aren't completely full of shit and just credit you the other 2 as lefties it still only backs up what I'm saying that crazies come in all flavors

>>131166218
Thanks Himmler. Can't let more Warsaw Ghetto Uprisings happen.

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>>131166213
is this why the leftists want to take our guns? because the niggers are too good at using them to kill each other, and the leftists would rather they spread?

The American gun death statistic is dishonest, since it includes suicides and justifiable homicides committed by both police and private civilians. If you only include murders, then you'll realize most are committed by minorities with illegally obtained firearms in major cities.

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>>131175807
Fake news trying to belittle superior negro culture.

It blows my mind how little people seem to appreciate the severity of the launching of illegal proxy wars by neoliberal atheists in America. When an illegal proxy war is launched and several hundred thousand are murdered with many more displaced its major news but they die by the hundreds of thousands unnecessarily each year

What is it even going to take to snap 150+ million people out of their war industry-funded mass delusion ?

>>131164989
how the fuck does someone get shot if there's no gun around?

>>131176166
A gun death is a gun death. It's be dishonest to exclude any. Now murder rates are a different story

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>>131176166
All your crime statistics in general are dishonest.

>>131164989
If there is no gun, there is 0% chance of getting shot.

0 x 5 = 0

Op's pic is bullshit

>>131176188
>that picture

atleast the autorities now have a face picture of the dude in advance.. i guess..

>>131176349
It's the number people use when speaking of gun violence, as in unnecessary violence. Shooting and killing a home invader to protect your family shouldn't be included in that number.

>>131176580
But not a 0 percent chance of getting killed. Dead is dead.

>>131164989
>Would rather be beaten, strangled, or stabbed - the post
A fucking leaf.

>>131175534
Our first and second lines of defense are use of Verbiage/Verbal Commands, and then Compliance/Submission through Pain and LTLs. Only if those do not work and are exhausted, can the continuum continue to lethal or if the threat is immediate, upon arriving at a scene.

I have gone my 18 Year career without having to discharge any of my issued firearms once, and I am as "high" as one can go within our SLE - State Bureau of Investigation ESOR (Enhanced SWAT/Hostage Rescue Team/Counter-Terrorism Tactical Response), but some 23 year old kid down in Patrol with his FTO, just a few days out of the Academy, has to immediately go lethal upon scene arrival(happened a few months ago) and has to kill the subject. He even had to resort to his .380 ACP backup sidearm(minimum/smallest sized caliber allowed). It really does ponders us all.

Trust me, a lot of us, would prefer to be able to patrol with our Carbines and Plate Carriers, all of the time, but it is impracticable, and the Public would give us shit for it.Despite, both the SBI and the Highway Patrol being explicit Paramilitary Organizations tasked with a duty of holding up State Laws.

>>131175534
Nobody is going to shrug off multiple center-mass pistol rounds, no matter how much PCP they smoke.

>>131175892
UVA student was a Democrat party supporter, it is well documented if your biasness would have allowed you to read, more in depth.

Adam Lan za was a Christan hater as he was a child of a school teacher...he had leftist leanings.

You heard of Google? Great! Because there you will find in any generic search that lefties are considerably more mentally ill, while 7 in 10th convicted felons vote for the democratic party.

Can you name any republican right wingers shooting presidents? I'm looking at a list of a half dozen Democrats that have shot US presidents.

Also, you will never find anNRA member as a mass shooter, will you?

>>131177087
wrong

lrn2 failure drill kiddo

>>131176947
May I ask you something please, truthful answer if you may:

What % of officers in USA are eager to discharge their weapons and how many would rather not? How many feel somewhat bad after doing so? (even if 100% justified shooting)
By your estimation and exp, of course, I don't want sauces.

>>131164989

>What is it even going to take to snap 150+ million people out of their NRA-funded mass delusion ?

For everyone that thinks it's a mass delusion to die, is my guess.

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>>131177087

>hasn't come across a freak yet

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>>131168780
When pro-gun ideologues emphasize there are gun related problems when it comes to black/hispanic demographics, but don't understand that it still means that it still means that guns are a problem. Where there is gun culture, where guns are used in everyday life, as well as police expected guns behind every corner, throw into the mix violent American demographics (blacks/hispanics), and you have a problem. You can't get rid of demographics, but also it is too late to change the gun culture. Strict gun laws can be implemented, but there are so many guns, and so easy to access, therefore they will still be apart of everyday life.

>>131177392
Do you actually believe any officer wants to go through what Darren Wilson went through? Nobody wants to, but if they feel justified in defending life, then they won't hesitate to use lethal force. Those that do hesitate end up dead.

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>>131164989
>The presence of a gun increases the risk of being shot by infinity%

>>131177370
I'd be more than comfortable mag dumping an unarmed methhulk. Eventually the crippling internal damage will render them less than able to hurt you, let alone kill you. But fuck it, a rifle would be way better, obviously.

>>131164989
A dozen people is nothing compared to 350 million.

Way to math Canada

>>131177392
Everyone that I know and myself (including the other guys in ESOR) want a peaceful resolution to situations, but sometimes life and reality just happens. 98%/2%. We try to weed out as many trigger happy/impatient ones with and through all of the training and psychological testing.

Most do feel bad about being forced to go lethal, even the Veterans within the SLEAs. The kids that I mentioned could not continue to perform his duties and was given an honorable solution and way out (to quit), after the shooting was declared justified.

>>131166218
>Germany

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>>131177682
No, I know senpai. That is why I asked him, to make sure. I even have the smuggie.

>>131178047
Thank you for the answer, satisfactory and plausible. I would maybe assume the trigger happiness is at 5-10%, but I believe you.

>>131178628
>Can get away with murdering people f colour to satiated their racist tendencies with almost no repercussions due to system infested racist bigot white people
No wonder they do it so often

>>131178628
It usually hovers around 4.2%(trigger happiness), but with increased firearms training and situation resolution training. It is slowly being brought it under control, there will never be a complete solution, but we try our hardest. We also assess personality under stressful situations keeping a cool/calm head during a shooting, until the adrenaline wears off, also keeps you alive.

The overwhelming majority of us in both SLEAs are White/"White" Hispanic, Christians and either former-Combat Veterans or other experience Law Enforcement, that come to us.

>>131177312
>child of a school teacher so he had left leanings.
Well there's clearly no arguing with that.


I get it. It makes it all so much easier if you can fully convince yourself that it's us against them and when bad things happen 'they' did it.

If you can't come to grips with the fact that some people who ascribe to your particular political ideology might not be all good and that some people who lean the other way might not be all bad then you might just be an ignorant hick.

Republican vs democrat is the 21st century Hatfeilds vs. McCoys

>>131164989
>Forcing people to defend themselves increases the risk of being hit back
Besides, 5*0=0
>>131165802
Including
>suicides that would happen some other way regardless of guns being banned or not
>gang activity that use illegal weapons so that wouldn't change anyway
>accidents that are akins to Darwin awards
>actual murders that would use other means if guns were banned anyway
>>131165861
>Notice how the second highest gun ownership country worldwide an the lowest criminality country of Europe, Switzerland isn't on the list
>So are Mexico and Brazil, where gun death rates are tremendeous and where guns are banned anyway
>>131166705
>[Citaiton needed]
>>131166781
>>What is the NRA doing to "delude" people?
>That guns are good.
>implying a gun is as bad as the person wielding it, just like any other tool

>>Where are they getting the money to do it?
>Donation by gun nuts.
Donation from people who care about their rights to self-defense, and who have a hoby that requires specific Equipment, like Airsoft, sportive shooting, clay shooting, etc

>>Why are so many people so easily taken in by this propaganda, to the tune of 160,000,000 Americans?
>Fragile masculinity requires compensating with guns.
typical leaf argument. If you hate masclinity so much, move to Sweden and get culturally enriched, but let us enjoy out thing and fuck off if you don't like us

>>And if it's so easy to fool people, why doesn't the anti-gun camp just do the same thing in reverse?
>That's what this thread is for.
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean I can't have it.
Or, if you would apply the same logic the other way around, I don't like weed so anyone who produce/sells/cinsumes weed needs to go to jail
That's how dumb you sound

>>131179107
>8 years of a 'racist system' under a Nigger for King
>Nigger tendency for crime still not satiated
>System still racist

Sorry this happened to you. Better luck on the next nigger.