Was the French Revolution the worst thing to ever happen to the

>>131148633
Arguably, but it only led the ideas of British wigs to logical extreme. I would say, that the beginning of the end was British civil war. When state isn't literal property of single sovereign, the authorities has no business in caring for its future,

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>>131148633
I thought you were quitting 4chinz islamfag (white shariafag)??? L0L still preaching this french revolution BS? REMINDER islamfag was run off /pol/:

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/128648265/

>>131148633
The market rules, that was the plan.

>>131151421
He's right though.

French Revolution was orchestrated by free-mason cancer with some "oriental" inspiration bullshit. It's pure cancer, pure satanism.

>>131148633

Do traditionalist larping faggots even know that their acestors probably benefited from egalitarianism? It's not like /pol/ is made up from descendants from aristocracy, your ancestors were probably toiling illiterate serfs back then, not kangz.
It is the liberal concept of equality that has elevated the masses to middle class positions and gave plebs citizens rights.

In a traditional society you plebs would be probably toiling under a serf.

ye

>>131151963
>he thinks French Revolution was merely about egalitarianism

Peasant mentality.

>>131151963
Yeah because the French Revolution is what got people out of serfdom and not the fucking Industrial Revolution

idiot

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>>131152237
>wahh 4chans being MEAN to me! i'm going back to autism-gatechan

>>131152332
stop being a retarded nigger

>>131148633
Wow he should shave and wear suits more often

>>131152276

yes but the revolution was carried out by a revolutionary class made up by capitalist merchants who destroyed the feudal order by pandering to the lower classes.

Evola worshiping faggots will never get that he despised capitalism precisely because it enabled plebs to climb the social ladder.

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>>131152397
Speak Dutch and post it on vocaroo.

>>131148633
>he wants to submit to hierarchy and authority
Found the cuck

>>131148633

Woah, never seen this pic of Sen Hine

Europe would be better off if Napoleon had won at Waterloo

>>131151963
>In a traditional society you plebs would be probably toiling under a serf.

Maybe, and it would be the right thing

>>131148633
And the American Revolution was the best

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>>131152752
No. Democracy is a failed ideal

>>131151963
We aren't any more free now realty after all taxes im probably out half my pay cheque every week.

Also serfdom had been decreasing in the west of Europe for some time before the french revolution.

>>131148633

Yes. Taking out France should be considered one of Hitler's greatest deeds and the restoration of France one of America's greatest crimes.

>>131148633
>Promoted liberalism and egalitarianism

Those concepts were different back then, liberalism was essentially capitalism. The reformation also allowed secularism to eventually develop which is one of the best concepts of western government. Our society is slipping not because of liberalism or egalitarianism but because we don't embrace secularism anymore. We allow muslims and shit to come to our country breaking laws under the guise of their religion, which is the worst thing we can do.

Banning burkas for example should see no backlash in a secular community, if you can't enter a store with a motorbike helmet than you can't walk around with a burka. Don't get me wrong, the french revolution was bad but because it was pointless. Most of the good that happened were things like Napoleon's laws, which would likely have happened anyway.

>>131152501
kanker een end op achterlijke gladiool

>>131148633
fuck sam hyde

>>131152502
>hierarchies are not a natural and essential part of life because i called someone a "cuck" on the internet

the only one who fears a competitive environment would be the one that stands to lose from it

>>131148633

It was America's fault for giving them the idea

>>131148633
>>permanently denigrated hierarchy and authority

Wow, that sounds terrible. Oh wait, you guys *like* hierarchy and authority, because you're all a bunch of spineless fucking bootlickers and sycophants.

The French destroyed churches and castles throughout the Low Countries, such as in Liège, Bruges, Antwerp and my own village. They stole our bread and soliers, So yes, for us it was a bad thing.

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>>131148633
>permanently denigrated hierarchy and authority
No, it permanently denigrated the Church and aristocracy though.
The French Revolution is not really hard to understand politically: the french kings progressively concentrated the powers in their hands during the XVIIth to create what we call absolutism, the ones who suffered the most from it were the nobles who went from a warrior aristocracy (strong, with an independant power) to a bunch of sycophants living in the court basically sponging off society, in the meantime the bourgeoisie (merchants, industrials, bureaucrats, bankers, etc...) progressively filled the powergap let by nobles in society.

So after 1750 you had a powerful bourgeoisie whose strength came from economy and a weak aristocracy which was still socially over them and which entire relevance came from the king and their special rights, the bourgeoisie became increasingly disgruntled by this and reclaimed its faire share of representation, Louis XVI gave them the perfect opportunity during les "Etats généraux" of 1789 when the church and the aristocrats told them to fuck off and it ended in a revolt where the bourgeois made a coup on the aristocrats and the clergy.

>promoted liberalism
USA and UK did it first but it's right it fertilized it over Europe (= the world) after the FR, liberalism is an anglo-french doctrine after all.
>egalitarianism
No, egalitarianism came with marxism, it's a XIXth century idea, not a XVIIIth one.

Gave the Jews citizen rights and let them in Government, pretty much downhill ever since

>>131148633
The fat king needed to die. Robespierre did nothing wrong.

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>>131152502

And of course you Americans are all free actors who can do anything out of their individual desire. No, wait, you're obedient servants to an oligarchy that sells you a lie that one man, one vote makes you all equals.

There's always going to be hierarchy and authority. If you believe in egalitarianism, you're one of the serfs whether or not you know it or not.

>>131148633
nah, not really , the real west decline started later (early 20th century)

>>131153363
>meanwhile, in a 2 party state where elections are a simple political pageant...

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>>131148633
Anything bad that has ever happened and was not stopped or redeemed is deserving of a weak society.

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>>131148633
No, it was glorious

>>131153185
>Our society is slipping not because of liberalism or egalitarianism but because we don't embrace secularism anymore
Secularism relies on nothing but the suppression of christianism.
Most of the secularism in France was made to steal the goods and missions of the Church because they sided with the aristocracy instead of the bourgeoisie, same thing in USSR btw.

If France was still a christian nation like the ones it is we would not have burkas because Islam would not be tolerated in the first place and something like Vatican II would have never happened, I don't even speak about the effect it had on moral of population.

We didn't need secularism, we already had the separation of the temporal and the spiritual power in the West since Clovis was baptized 1500 years ago and it worked well.

>>131148633
French revolution was nullified with Congress of Vienna:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_of_Vienna
>settling critical issues arising from the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic Wars. The goal was not simply to restore old boundaries but to resize the main powers

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>>131153717
The Empire was really glorious.
In fact if Napoleon had won chances are we would all live under a constitutionnal monarchy and enlightened despotism would have been considered the logic result of Enlightment and not democratic republicanism (which is basically banker rule).

>>131154123
>Christianism

This isn't a religion. France is a shithole because it throws away everything that made it a good society. Even the little shit like them moving the statue of Lafayette.

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what Nappy mean by this?

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>>131154560
Germs should be killed

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>>131154482
>This isn't a religion
Christianity if you prefer, I'm not a native speaker, don't be an asshole, you understood me.

>France is a shithole because it throws away everything that made it a good society.
France is a shithole because we exactly follow the heritage of the jacobins.

>Even the little shit like them moving the statue of Lafayette.
Lafayette was a too weak symbol.
If there is something representing France very well since 220 years in the hand of freemasonry, it's this pyramid.

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>>131148633
Yes.

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>>131153413
List of destroyed ciltural heritage in the Belgium and France
https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_cultureel_erfgoed_dat_teloor_ging_door_de_Franse_Revolutie

We all suffered a lot from the revolution.

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>>131148633
muhh democracy
muhh freedom

>>131148633
It was a terrible mistake.

Yes, it was https://youtu.be/v9cLR7FHon4

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>>131148633
fuck thats some rare Sam

>>131148633
the american revolution was

>>131153091

88 never took out French State.

>>131154482
>>131153185
All secular movements are tied to Jews who want to destroy Christianity. They pushed BCE/CE, they won't use the + sign in their schools or mathematics. There countless other examples as all religions but Christianity are tolerated in 'secular' societies.