Who wins. >Round 1: U.S. military vs Russian Military >Round

1 US
2 US
3 n\a

>>131086734
granted I live in California, I think you would steam roll the southern part.

>>131086371
>Round 1 America
Larger+More technologically advanced+more money put into it
>Round 2 Average Russian
Harsh winter and a more physically demanding lifestyle
>Round 3
An ex KGB agent vs. a billionaire playboy. Is this even a contest?

>>131086371
russia
russia
putin
>>131086734
y tho?

Russia is best @football

Jewsa is "best" at local sports as egghead, baseball.

The whole planet loses except for cockroaches and Twinkies. All that will be left is Turks and young effeminate gay men.

>>131086917
US military is larger and better funded.
US citizens do have personal weapons

>>131086371
That second question is interesting. I'd really like to see some Russian slavs fight niggers from the hood. I have a feeling they'd be friends though because their behaviors are so similar.

>>131086906
So Batman vs Putin?

>>131086906
This

If Russia could win they wouldn't let ZOG bomb Assad all the time.

>>131087116
us military is fucking castrated desu. maaaaybe they have a technological advantage but manpower and will to fight means so much more. not to mention russian military doctrine is explicitly a plan to deal with intrusions from the west

>>131086371
1-USA conventionally, if with nukes then you would have MAD
2-USA
3-Putin

>>131086371
Are we talking arena style deathmatch or real life simulation? For the citizens' face-off, if it's 1v1 average burger vs average ivan my money's on ivan, but if its everyone at once we'd win by sheer numbers.

>>131086371
>Round 1: U.S. military vs Russian Military
I'm assuming no nuclear.
Neither if the goal is to conquer the other country's capital. The US military is stronger than Russian, but not enough to actually conquer Russia (both Napoleon and Hitler had by far stronger military than Russia).

>Round 2: U.S. citizens vs Russian Citizens
US citizens, because 2nd amendment and because 320 mln vs 145 mln.

>Round 3: Trump vs Putin
Putin, because he is the real emperor, while Trump's power is very limited by Congress, Supreme Court, etc.

>>131087388
Russian' secretaries of defense are european-like cucks how never served in army and got a position be course friendship.

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>>131087662
What will Ivan do? Throw a vodka bottle at you? Just shoot him.

>>131086371
>round 1
russia
http://www.newsweek.com/us-russia-nuclear-arms-race-over-and-russia-has-won-581704
>round 2
dunno, in a fist fight my bet is on russians
>round 3
lmao

1 ) i think neither if the objective is to get moscow or washington , same with nukes . everyone dies
2) US cause they are 300 milion vs 150
3) PUTIN obviously

>>Round 1: U.S. military vs Russian Military
U.S. Not even a contest. Everybody thinks that Russia still is some major superpower to be reckoned with, but that's no longer the truth. They're not weak, I know they have nukes and shit, but they're not as strong on a global level as they were.

>>Round 2: U.S. citizens vs Russian Citizens
If we go by population count, the Americans outnumber the Russians more than 2 to 1. Devastating U.S. victory.
However, if we take 50 million of the average Russian man + 50 million of the average Russian man vs. the same amounts but American, it could get interesting. America has a lot of fat people. Pic related is the average American man according to the CDC - Skinnyfat, arguably pretty weak. I'd actually say it's a win for the Russians on this one, considering the slavic genes and all.

>>Round 3: Trump vs Putin
Fight to the death, no weapons allowed, in one of those UFC octagons. Trump - Fat, old man. Putin - KGB agent. Again, no contest. Would pay to watch, though.

>>131087127
I beat up a nigger in the US once, after he carelessly talked shit about my family. Had to teach the shithead a lesson on which kinds of insults are appropriate and for which insults you get your nose broken. Tbqh I'm lucky he didn't report me, I could've had problems with my visa later.

>>131087708
Frankly, it would be very hard for US, but I guess they could end up doing it. Now you have infrastructure and shit and you can't just hide and wait for the winter

>>131086371
Round 1: U.S.

Round 2: If you factor population, the U.S. If we're speaking in averages, and assuming everyone is armed, the Russians

Round 3: Not sure

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>>131088076
Forgot pic.

>R1:
America by a large margine.
Bigger/Better/More advanced military.
more than likely it would end up MAD though.

R2:
If it's an average American vs Average Russian then it goes to the russian.
If it's population vs population then america wins by numbers.

R3:
Putin is an ex KGB agent.

Trump is a 80 year old golfer.

A more fair fight would be Trump in his prime vs Putin in just a straight boxing match. Trump might have a chance there.

>>131087708
>Napoleon.
Napoleon captured Moscow. Anyway XIX c. wars were not about capitals but general battles. Russia retreated from the battlefield and run away from even Moscow

>>131087190
More like Black Widow vs Iron man

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>>131087970
>round 1
>russia
>http://www.newsweek.com/us-russia-nuclear-arms-race-over-and-russia-has-won-581704

>>131086906
this

>>131088294
>better quality
i'd argue they don't. tech and size for sure, but the slavic people are hard motherfuckers. i'd reckon the amount of americans worth their salt is the equivalent of the russian army.

>>131088297
And everyone forgets that in 1812 St.Petersburg was capital. So basically losing Moscow meant not much back then.

>>131088575
>St.Petersburg
The eurogay fish village

Eh America isn't what it used to be even in 2003. If they lose like one hip with 500 sailors the whole country will burn with SJW nigger riots and snowflakes resisting the draft

>>131086371
Round 1: Russia if on Russian soil, USA everywhere else

Round 2: Same as Round 1

Round 3: Putin

>>131088297
>Napoleon captured Moscow.
Moscow wasn't the capital, the only value it had compared to other conquered towns was sentimental. Besides, it was used as a trick to harm Napoleon's armies.

>>131088138
Our ground forces can totally withstand whatever the US sends to fight them. Naval battles are pointless, you can't swim anywhere near Moscow. Our Air Force is very decent, more than enough for defense. And our missile systems are the shit, perhaps the only part of the military where we are actually technologically better than the US, so we would have no problem shooting down enemy jets and rockets.

>>131088448
still in a conventional conflict I'd bet on US, mainly due to air superiority, drones, carriers, internet, porn, railguns, etc

on other hand russians are working overtime with rearming themselves too, they introduced a number of new weapons recently
t14 armata, t99, some new laser heli, t-50 jets, and propably much more

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>>131086931
>Russia is best @football
I wish desu
t. Я Pyccкий

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If you want to know how russians do a war look at chechen conflict. You want to know about Putin? He's nothing but a thief without any of self achievement. Even clown Trump make billions in such competitive country as america but putin just modest mouse who even not elected. Yeltsin make him president because everybody knows he weak enough to allow big fishs make a business. Number 2, midget with lack of ambition. Look at him he even cant take a president cabinet by himself. People are laughin in 2000 because he cant even normally talk UGH UHM UHMMG. People have short memory. Hope you guys understand my ukrainian unglish.

>>131086371
1. usa
2. russia
3. putin

I'd much rather team up with Russia to bring FREEDOM to Europe, Canada, Australia, and Mexico. Mexico included because it's more or less a middle eastern warzone hellhole on our border but with tacos.

>>131086371
1. China
2. USA is much bigger but also much fatter so Idk
3. China/any country who can sit back and rub hands really

>>131087959
I was thinking of some obese guy against a drunk russian. Honestly, I'm just trying to figure out a way they'd win because in any other scenario they'd get shot or overrun.

>>131087708
>both Napoleon and Hitler had by far stronger military than Russia
Napoleon:
>Grande Armée: c. 685,000
>Imperial Russian Army: c. 900,000 men (soldiers and militia) at peak
Hitler:
>3,350 Axis tanks vs. 11,000 Soviet tanks
>2,770 Axis aircraft vs. 7,133–9,100 Soviet military aircraft

>>131088220
>>131088297
Russians burned it to the ground. It's telling how insane the attrition was that Napoleon went into Russia with 169,000 troops and returned with 13,000. Without even losing a battle.

>>131089983
>at peak
Three times fewer when Napoleon attacked.

>more tanks
What is difference in technology?

>>131086890
Idiot.

>>131089983
the wehrmacht were the most sophisticated, technologically advanced, and well trained army in history before their defeat
the soviets on the other hand purged all their battled hardened generals and officers during the civil war, since they mostly sided with the whites
majority of soviet leadership was new to the business and lacked the competence and technological advantage the enemy possessed
the only reason the soviets won was because of the people's resolve and will to fight to the very last drop of blood

>>131090806
>the people's resolve

Funny way of saying Allied materiel

>>131090938
>>131090806
And machine gunning retreating soldiers probably helped too

>>131086371
Siener van Rensberg already said Russia will be completely destroyed when they go to war with the US, which will survive, but be decrepit.

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>>131086371
Round 1: Assuming without nukes, US everytime. US has More experience in modern warfare. Better logistics. Better air force. Better Navy. Better overall tech (Stealth bombers, Drones, Lasers, etc.) It kinda depends on who's invading who, though. The US alone could probably take Moscow eventually. Russia could never invade the US until they build up their Navy and Air Force.

Round 2: Americans because Second Amendment. However, I would assume the average Russian is a bit hardier than the Average American

Round 3: In What? Hand-to-hand combat? Putin. A literal ex-KGB agent vs. a 71 year old Real estate tycoon billionaire playboy-turned politician? Come on dude.

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>>131090938
>>131091156
absolutely da

>>131086371
US because money

US because theres 10x as many guns in the hands of US citizens as Russian and US military combined

Putin hands down, even if Trump gets to carry his glock. Maybe gets a lucky shot off and injurs Putin, but before he can double tap, he's getting thrown to the floor and done.

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>>131091770
That's a cool pic

Don't forget an American hero
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BGphvnjrBJc

>>131091770
>Round 1: Assuming without nukes, US everytime. US has More experience in modern warfare. Better logistics. Better air force. Better Navy. Better overall tech (Stealth bombers, Drones, Lasers, etc.) It kinda depends on who's invading who, though. The US alone could probably take Moscow eventually. Russia could never invade the US until they build up their Navy and Air Force.
See >>131087708

And why is everyone pointing out to Putin being a KGB agent? He wasn't a special forces officer, he pretty much had an office job. His lifetime practice of Judo is what matters.

Putin would kill trump easily.

>Putin began training in sambo at the age of 14, before switching to judo, which he continues to practice.[427] Putin won competitions in both sports in Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg). Putin was awarded 8th dan of the black belt in 2012 and became the first Russian to have been awarded the eighth dan, joining a handful of judo fighters in the world who have achieved such status.[428] Putin also practises karate.[429]

>>131086371
1 US (bigger, more modern military)
2 US has nearly twice the population
3 putin. Trumps seventy years old

If nukes are used no one wins

>>131086371
In all honesty I fear that despite our technological advantage we have hollowed out our military fighting counterinsurgency for the past decade plus. Russia has experience fighting a near-peer in Ukraine. It's going to take a few columns obliterated by artillery strikes before we pick up on the lessons they've already learned.

Round 2 is pretty much a separate question. US citizens are more numerous and better-armed but many here are somewhat pro-Russia and would be happy to act as double agents.

Hmm a rich, obese cuck vs an ex-KGB agent. Even if Trump had a gun I'd bet on Putin.

Round 1: trump and putin prepare to duel live at EU HQ.
Proceed to shoot everyone else.
Laugh.

>>131092254
yea, Putin was a pencil pushing lawyer in the KGB
and has been practising martial arts and staying in shape his whole, more fit and healthy than most people half his age

>>131086890
>the ones with all the guns

>>131087388
If nukes are off the table, the Russians have absolutely no means of launching an attack or invasion of the US mainland (other than some conventional cruise missiles which the US also has) as there surface navy (which is required to transport and supply armies) is a joke. The US on the other hand, has the largest and most advanced navy the world's ever seen, and regularly invades other countries with it. The Russians struggle to invade their immediate neighbors.

"but muh moral, muh anti air"
If this is a "fight to the death" situation, then that stuff doesn't matter. The US has more meat for the grinder and our air force and missile strikes will eventually annihilate the Russian air defense. It's all extremely impractical though.

>>131086371
1. US Wins
2. US Wins
3. Russia Wins

Trump is obese, I would be surprised if he doesn't experience one heart attack in his 8 years.

>>131086371
1. US military wins hands down
2. probably US citizens because they outnumber russians
3. putin because he does judo, whereas trump is a germaphobic golfer.

>>131092411
>Russia has experience fighting a near-peer in Ukraine.
>Ukraine
>a near-peer
That's just insulting. If they are a "near-peer" of Ukraine then the Russians don't have a chance in hell.

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>>131092254
>And why is everyone pointing out to Putin being a KGB agent? His lifetime practice of Judo is what matters.
I was factoring that in as well, which is why i mentioned hand-to-hand combat.

>The US military is stronger than Russian, but not enough to actually conquer Russia
I agree. It would be a great clash of civilizations and the US Military ALONE wouldnt be able to conquer the entirety of Russia. But i honestly believe in terms of who could reach eachother's capital the fastest, I would say the US if they can establish Air superiority, neutralizing Russian Missile defenses somehow and pounding their large ground Army from the air. However attrition, paramilitary groups and militias would probably play bigger role than we acknowledge.

Without Nukes, some type of devastating pre-emptive strike or grand strategy that includes sleeper cells and chemical attacks or something, Russians would struggle just getting past the US Navy before reaching the mainland USA. If they somehow do manage to invade the coast and establish long distance supply lines, they wont last very long and their attempt to occupy would fail very quickly.

>>131086371
All Russian men have a military training, so they are quickly mobilized to a large and well-organized army. If they move then there's no second round.

US military
Russian military is a paper bear, there's a reason they've never went to war with a real military
US citizens
We have more guns than they have people(40% of which aren't even Russian) and their people really don't have guns when you get down to it
Trump
Pootin is a manlet and Trump would just punch the shit out of him until he stopped moving. Most of vladdy's belts in Martial arts are ceremonial and the only thing he knows is fuckin judo

>>131086906
Trump would kick vlad's ass
Pootin is 64 years of age, kgb(and any ex-military for that matter) stop being worth a shit at fighting after they break 50 or so
Anyone who's ever actually seen an old man try and fight someone knows this. Vladdy also was at one time a peasent. That plus adding to the fact that he was a KGB agent means he lived a life that involved not having the best nutrition and having his body mistreated.
Trump has spent 70 years of his life eating good healthy food, never having to worry about messing his body up (ffs as far as we know bone spurs in the heel is the only injury he's ever had) and staying in good shape even at his current age which is not easy for most people
Add to that that Trump reach is disgustingly excessive to vlad's as well as the height and weight difference. Trump would best the fuck out of him, might have a heart attack doing it but he would still crush him
Everything you RIDF shills, commies, and Russiboos know about Pootin comes from propaganda, the guy is not some hardcore badass he's just an intimidating person with a face made for poker

>>131086931
Bullshit, Russia's national team is garbage, their best team is made up almost exclusively of foreigners.
Meanwhile in the last 3 world cups we've advanced to the round of 16 every time

>>131094443
>than they have people(40% of which aren't even Russian)
Dem shills and their alternative facts.
>According to the 2010 census, ethnic Russians make up 81% of the total population. This share remained steady over the last few decades.[10][11]

>>131087388
And the 70 years we have spent planning to wipe the Russians out for good in every single logistical way imaginable isn't?
Our discipline, chain of command, and rigerous adhearance to code and procedure makes it nearly impossible for anyone who aren't German or Japanese (maybe Singapore) to get near us
t. former chair force

>>131087708
>both Napoleon and Hitler had by far stronger military than Russia
Except Napoleon raped the ever loving shit out of you
His only reason or losing was being too far from supply lines
Hitler only lost because he besieged your capital and there were so many people to kill that the winter came before he could wipe you out
Also he played way too nice instead of just steamrolling everything and not caring about civvies

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>>131091770
I have no hard feelings to an average american citizen (even though I consider all your globalist government as a pure evil) but after reading such a post I really wish USA will get into a war with Russia in my lifetime (atm I'm 28 btw) cuz I want to participate in it and see all these "better US logistics", "better US air forces", "better US navy" etc, lol.
You didn't win information war with my mind John. Even if US is stronger in EVERY ASPECT than my Motherland, for me will be an honor to fight and die on a weaker side.

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>>131086371
>Round 3
>implying putin can defeat this

>>131089243
But the slavshit weapons Russians make can't compare and we could actually just unload a couple of misses from space at them with no way to defend against and they're dead
We are so much more powerful than them it's ridiculous, and our military is barely at 50%
Once we reform our military and trim the fat you will see what a TRUE global military power looks like. The last 50 years we have been almost exclusively a political power touting our ability to bomb people to sway opinion

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>>131095253
get a load of this well informed individual

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>>131096311
>Except Napoleon raped the ever loving shit out of you
Um no, sweetie, he couldn't even reach our capital. We did reach his, however, and then literally raped him. And that was back when Western men weren't massive pussies.

An american Admiral said their navy would Last.... 48h against russkies or chinese.
Big juicy targets for missile barrages.
Russian navy would probably be sunk quickly.
USAF is powerful, but aera access denial weapons seem to worry them a lot.
And russian are the best on that.
Not sure who would win.
F22 is obsolete and f35 a mess.
The teens series are strong beasts, but vulnerable. And old.
Bombers work, for a time.
Prolly a complete slaughter for both, ending in infantry guerilla.
In this, overwhelming advantage to russians. The best american commandos are low tiers compared to other modern armies.

Also, nobody take the morale in the equation. Who is the defending side ? This is important to keep the will to fight.

Average american vs average russian ?
Only advantage are guns. Too many faggots, niggers, retards, sjw, etc.
If the Kremlin distribute weapons, America will have a few good militias and a lot of useless guys to feed. With fat ass and huge appetite .
Prolly also a civil war in us. The cost to be "diverse".
Russian will be united but untrained.
Although, guns are not something hard to learn.
Also here, hard to tell.
Prolly another slaughter.

In the end i bet on russians.
They are rugged, ruthless and ready for anything. They can endure hunger and fear. Americans... No, there are addicted to modern comfort.

And if you factor allies. Usa are hated worldwide. Nobody want to fight for them in a serious war. Russia on the opposite, is seen as the champion of develloping countries. Has china on its side.

The only chance of a clean Victory for usa is economics.

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>>131096616
It's not a real debate whether the US military is more powerful than the Russian. We indeed have better logistics in the fact we have WAY more transport and supply planes and ships than you (C-5 Super Galaxy, C17 Globemaster, C-130 Hercules, Stratotankers,LCACs, etc.) We also have a larger wartime economy that can support large, long term foreign wars and occupations without having to resort to rationing.

If Russia wasnt buckling under sanctions and had a more diverse economy that was less dependent on gas and oil to support a bigger military budget, i'd recommend they invest in stealth tech, destroyers, and submarines. And for the love of God get a new Aircraft carrier.

>>131096616
Russia today is just Russia, it isn't an empire, it isn't a union of any sort with many other participants
just like Italy today is just Italy, is isn't the Roman empire, and the UK isn't the British empire no longer either
just another major European power at best, which is all that was ever required in the first place

>>131089983
>3,350 Axis tanks
>>131089983
>2,770 Axis aircraft
wow hitler was realy a dumbass. thats nothing.

I don't know about the first two but it's obvious Putin would beat Trump's ass (unless he suddenly got /fit)

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>>131091770
>71 year old Real estate tycoon billionaire playboy-turned politician?
Love how you ignore the fact that he went to military school, played baseball, and loved to fight
Also Putin is fucking 64, I could kick his ass ffs half the board could beat him to a pulp
You motherfuckers really do never go outside if you think a man in his mid 60's is some kind of hardcore Street fighting badass

>>131086371

Put round 2 as round 1, let the russian civilians and plainclothes military kill all the inner city thugs and hos, and we declare a stalemate.

>>131086371

1. US
2. Russians
3. Putin

>>131097928
>Russia today is just Russia, it isn't an empire, it isn't a union of any sort with many other participants. Just another major European power at best
Not according to the dems though. Apparently, Russia now controls the United States.

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>>131097644
>The best american commandos are low tiers compared to other modern armies.

Are you legitimately retarded?

>>131097928
USA is just mexico and africa run by jews. nothing personel kid.

>>131086371
>US
>Depends on home court, home court wins
>Putin

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>>131098125
>Also Putin is fucking 64, I could kick his ass ffs half the board could beat him to a pulp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fT_PProJAM

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>>131086371
1.US
2.Russian (but if freedom obese fucks loss some weight then us)
3.Putin

>>131095763
>2010
This is the first sign you are stupid
>Census
Again you are definitely stupid, the majority of your Muslim population will not take part in the census(and that's not including the 15% of your population your government has been able to prove) then you have all the Asians and vomit inducing number of chinks running over your borders.
>Russians make up 81% of the population
That's quite literally impossible, there are only about 98 million ethnic Russians(though it's very possible a lot of those are counted as Russian are forigners who have just moved to Russia over the last century or so) live in Russia. Your REPORTED population which I know you know isn't telling you the truth is 140 million
If you're going to be a dirty traitor to Russia at least try and do it with decent bullshit

>>131098323
we are all servants of reality, even the unwilling

>>131098508
No
for better or worse, the USA is motherucking powerhouse of a superpower
t. Pyccкий зa Pyccких

>>131086371
1.a
2.a
3.b
1. You know why, they are better
2. When not fighting each other they are aforceto be reconed with.
3 trump is an older man and Putin trys to be more natural.

>>131096616
No you don't, because if we ever go to war with your country in an actual war you won't have a country after we are finished
You will be balkanized into NO LESS than 7 nations

>>131086371
>Round 1: U.S. military vs Russian Military
U.S., especially if nukes are involved. I admit, we'd lose a fuckton of troops invading Russia, though.
>Round 2: U.S. citizens vs Russian Citizens
The one with the 2nd Amendment.
>Round 3: Trump vs Putin
Gotta give it to Putin. While Trump mentioned that he switches between a .38 snubnose and .45 automatic for concealed carry, I'm assuming he no longer carries now that he has a SS detail.

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>>131097644
>Big juicy targets for missile barrages
Indeed Aircraft Carrier fleets when caught off guard are just big targets for swarm tactic missile barrages that seek to overwhelm. It's a known weakness.
>USAF is powerful, but aera access denial weapons seem to worry them a lot.
If we attack from the coast and establish a beachhead, SEAD operations would be easier.
>In this, overwhelming advantage to russians. The best american commandos are low tiers compared to other modern armies.
American commandos are infamous for fucking shit up and leading raids against any target behind enemy lines. It also depends on who's invading/attacking who and where.

>Usa are hated worldwide. Nobody want to fight for them in a serious war. Russia on the opposite, is seen as the champion of develloping countries.
Not necessarily. There's a reason the US is a superpower and has multiple military bases across the world; because other nations allow it. If you're factoring in China as an ally to Russia, of course they'd get a boost. But the Chinese would remain neutral in a Russo-American war as to preserve their economy and lucrative trade with the USA.

>>131096616
For me it would be an honor to blast some drunk Russian platoon on the battlefield who grew up thinking Americans are all fat coward SJWs that follow Jew bidding. You didn't win any information war either, Ivan, but I give you props for trying.

>>131097644
>f35 a mess
Actually the lightning II is more or less ready to go, the problem is with internal hear and those overseeing the project for the government keep changing their minds

>>131086371
1. Whoever invades loses. Proxy wars on foreign soil can have varying results.
2. Depends on social class. Rednecks > gopnicks, US leftists = Russian leftists, US (((smart people))) < Russian smart people.
3. Putin obviously wins, he has KGB and judo training. If we're talking about a brawl. If we're talking about a Cold War spy warfare, who knows. Trump isn't a dummy and he's not showing his cards.

>>131097928
>Russia
>European
Kek, even they don't say this

>>131098965
>This is the first sign you are stupid
Dumbass, our demographics have remained stable for decades.

>Again you are definitely stupid, the majority of your Muslim population will not take part in the census
Our muslim population is mainly the people that we conquered very long ago, they participate in the census just like everyone else. We have very few illegals as police constantly stops everyone who looks middle asian to check their documents and deports them if they are illegal.

>That's quite literally impossible, there are only about 98 million ethnic Russians(though it's very possible a lot of those are counted as Russian are forigners who have just moved to Russia over the last century or so) live in Russia.
Never in my life have I seen such a retarded statement. All of your posts are so russophobic, I'm starting to think you're McCain's grandson.

>Your REPORTED population which I know you know isn't telling you the truth is 140 million
147 million actually. Because we breed and because Crimea river, faggot.

Neither side because there's no reason for either country to be at war.

Share blue thread

>>131098670
>The dictator of the entire country who could have you killed without hesitation for any reason that tickles his fancy is sparring with you
>You're going to beat him
I don't think you understand how propaganda works
It's just like when he played that hockey match, dude was a fucking joke but everyone went easy on him and let him look good because if they didn't they probably figured (and rightly so) that they would end up in jail or at the bottom of a river

>>131099738
>demographics have remained stable for decades.
proportionally*

>>131087970

>muh object 4202

By the time Russia can field enough of them, the U.S. will have fully integrated HELLADS, making nearly all missiles as we know them obsolete.

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>>131086371
Round 1: USA
Round 2: USA
Round 3: Putin's Judo fails him in the shower and Trump beats him to death with his big golden penis.

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>>131099738
>We have very few illegals
You are something funny chekov, do not worry I will tell RIDF you were good comrade today

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>>131099789
C'mon man. Don't spoil such a nice thread with your faggotry. Anons have fun here.

>>131099789
>there's no reason for either country to be at war.
Russia wants to destroy America because they want to destroy the west and we are the strongest representation of it
You are ignorant if you think we aren't going to have a conflict with.them by the end of the century

Putin has a black belt in Judo and keeps fit, he could literally throw Trump across a room

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Can I get some more details on the battle and the political shenanigans surrounding it?

US military lost to a bunch of rice farmers in Nam

>>131100306
>let me tell you about your country

>>131099702
Russia is a product of European imperialism, the Russian ethnicity is a European ethnicity, was established long before they became an empire
+ their dairy consuming, bacon smoking culture isn't just euro, its northern European
the European continent begins and ends at the Ural mountains, 80% of their population lives on euro soil. Geography 101

>>131095253
You're delusional.

>>131086371
>Round 1: U.S. military vs Russian Military
US military, only because the Kremlin is hidebound in ancient military generals and antiquated technology, ours are generally much better educated, trained and younger, and we have far superior battlefield tech.

>Round 2: U.S. citizens vs Russian Citizens
American citizens are identical to Russian citizens in almost every meaningful metric. It would be an abomination for them to fight anything but the tyranny of their own governments.

>Round 3: Trump vs Putin
Putin on top, Trump on bottom squealing like a pig in a gimp suit.

>>131096832
Russia's tech is many years ahead of the US's

>Round 1: U.S. military vs Russian Military

US Military, but Russian military will quickly go into partisan fighting, which brings us to

>Round 2: U.S. citizens vs Russian Citizens

Russians. Motivated by hatred, and being more adaptable than american, they will surely enact the old anecdote about "saw off your iron sights" on the burgers.

>Round 3: Trump vs Putin

Putin.

>>131086371
America (Technological and superiority in sheer numbers)

America (More guns, less peasants and poor people)

Putin (Younger, healthier, ex-KGB)

>>131092701

>Just raize them with artillery.

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>>131101271
Such advanced technology

>>131100448
>Russia wants to destroy America
ok nevermind
this motherfucker is delusional

>>131086371
>Round 1: U.S. military vs Russian Military
If nukes: MAD, draw.
If US invade russia, conventional weapons only, russia wins.
If russia invade US, US wins.
>Round 2: U.S. citizens vs Russian Citizens
if hand to hand combat on neutral grounds, russians would win easily
otherwise americans with their 2nd amendment would own ruskies but it would take significant amount of time
>Round 3: Trump vs Putin
Putin. No contest.

>>131086371
Well its unfortunate that half of our country is a bunch of panty waste faggots and tranny lovers..At this point im almost certain that we probably have less than 5% Alpha Males (real men) in this country. The US has become a fucking joke unfortunately due to this liberal mental illness that has spread, and all the beta fucks who are too weak to fight.

>>131087959
Random Russian urka would take your gun and shove it up your ass despite being half dead from TB.

It's not you usual nigger, Russians are more cunning and brutal.

>>131086371
1. US
2. Russia
3. Both

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>>131101449
Such qualified personnel

>>131086371
Round 1: U.S. military because it is more advanced and has better strike capabilities
Round 2: Russian citizens because they are more based. Although the rural Americans would be formidable, the obese city cucks would be more likely to shoot their own or smother you to death as they grab onto you in fear.
Round 3: Putin. He is a strong leader, he doesn't smile because he doesn't allow emotions to cloud his judgement. He would decapitate Trump with one blow to the jaw.

>>131086371
1) US - more advanced, better funded (assuming no nukes)
2) US - SHALL
3) Putin - ex-KGB vs pampered fat cat

>>131089434

>Ukrainian

>EU flag

Like pottery.

1. Zog
2. Zog
3. Zog

>>131098125
Trump is over 70 you dumb shit with no formal training

>Military school and baseball
Kek

>>131097644

>Russian navy would probably be sunk quickly.

It depends, how quickly you will sink the main submarines.
Even 1 working on target will be enough to reduce coast line to nuclear wasteland.

>Only advantage are guns.

Not quite an advantage. Ruskies will just use the hit and run and surprise attacks. Including the subversion and sabotage at the grid and supply lines.

>>131087388
>manpower

US population is higher

>>131086371
USA
Draw
Putin

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>>131101926
Such morale and strong soldiers

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=56c_1456927027

>>131101761
Russians are a bunch of pussies, there's nothing tough about them. They lost to Finns for fuck's sake.

>>131086371
I drink too much stoly. I'd rather drink with a Russian then kill one. No Bolsheviks

>>131086371
>Round 1:

If nukes are used then - nobody.

If US invades Russia then - Russia with huge struggle(no other way ever) and most likely will end up with just driving them out and maybe rolling to the Atlantic, US lose simply due to inner shit(smth like Vietnam but thousand times worse)

>Round 2:

If guns are used - burgers

If everybody vs everybody - burgers

If one on one - my bet is on russians

>Round 3:

Putin, no other outcomes.

>>131098357
Tell me again which country has a record breaking sniper kill of 3.5 km which is more than a kilometer more than the best America has to offer. Get BTFO.

>>131102903
Cheers John. No Bolsheviks and left cancer!

However, if this war will ever happen, don't be a coward and fight for your Motherland no matter what. American cowards and traitors will be killed in the most brutal way.

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>>131102535
but isn't as manly

Slide thread fuck off no useful content.

>>131086371

Round 1:
US wins. Superior technology and numbers with higher strategic expertise.
I say this with the utmost respect for the Russian armed forces. They are some of the best in the world, but their leaders are dumb as shit. US strategy of being like a snake with its head cut off when it comes to war is usually triumphant. The only conflict we ever lost was because of braindead politicians not understanding how war works and pulling out before we blew our load.

Round 2:
Russians win.
Americans are some of the most pathetic and out of shape human beings on the face of the Earth right now. Your average American is a tub of lard with a weak will and weak resolve. Russians are stupid drunks but they are the same as they were 50 years ago and absolutely cannot be stopped once they are pushed to survive. The only thing that could crush the will of a russian is running out of vodka.
Americans are faggots and lardasses nowadays. Thinking otherwise is pure delusion. Russians are at least in shape enough to fight and actually want to.

Round 3:
Trump is a fat, out of shape, pampered rich boy. He would be utterly destroyed by the muscular ex-soldier that is Putin. This is no contest.

I am basing round 2 on unarmed combat. If you involve firearms, the US will likely win. We have more guns than human beings, and the rural community could fight back a goddamn extra-terrestrial invasion with their firearm prowess and intuition for ranged combat.

>>131086371
Round 1:
US
Round 2:
US - Because the average US citizen has guns, Russians aren't even allowed them
Round 3:
Putin

>>131086371
USA, USA, Putin

USA would win a war against any military in the world in unrestricted warfare, tech and budget advantage is pretty massive, If the enemy fights a guerilla war against US, the war may last longer but in terms of casualties the US gets a better KD

USA citizens are armed with 112 guns per 100 people with a population of 330 million compared to 13 million civilian firearms in russia for 300 million people. The majority US of gun owners know how to use them effectively and many are in practicing militias with Ex military instruction. The advantage shifts further to USA if it is in US territory, closer to neutral but still an overwhelming US victory if in Russian territory

Putin is ex military and a blackbelt in judo, Trump is a businessman, not a fighter

>>131086371
I say as the Roman philopsopher Justinius Trudeus said: "If you kill your enemies, they win".

>Round 1: Both lose
>Round 2: Both lose
>Round 3: Trump wins

1. US
2. Russia
3. Putin

>>131095253
Ok Tucker lets try that again
Obesity vs Judo

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>>131086371

1 US
2 US
3 Trump

Russians are clowns!!

Putin showed Oliver Stone a video where Russia's Air Force supposedly attacked terrorists in Syria. It was actually footage of Americans fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan

In Oliver Stone’s Showtime special “The Putin Interviews,” there is a scene where the Russian president shows Stone a video on an iPhone supposedly depicting “our aviation at work” in Syria, Putin says.

You can catch a snippet of the video in the teaser trailer for the show’s third installment. The moment occurs at 49 minutes, 10 seconds, into the third episode.

It turns out that Putin actually showed Stone footage of an American Apache helicopter attacking Taliban forces in Afghanistan. The original video first appeared on the website Military.com in 2013.

Further complicating things, the video Putin showed Stone also contains an added audio track where the pilots are speaking Russian. Strangely, it seems this may actually chatter be recorded between Ukrainian pilots conducting military operations over Donetsk.

On YouTube, there is a copy of the American video with pilot chatter in Russian. It’s possible that this was the video Putin showed to Oliver Stone.

Researchers from the Conflict Intelligence Team compared the video played for Stone to frames from the footage of the U.S. Apache helicopter in Afghanistan, and found that they’re a perfect match.

Footage of "Russian helicopter bombing ISIS" shown to Oliver Stone by Putin appears to be taken from 2013 US Afghan video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34AoHqsx1yk

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>no guns in Russia
stfu

>>131088801

moskvich fag detected

>>131104616
wow, a burger that watched russian films

I guess some of you have taste in cinema

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1. Jews
2. Jews
3. Jews
Why fight each other when we can cleanse the world of the evil Jewish influence. Then next the niggers, fags, Muslims and communist.

>>131108205
kakoi ya nahren te burger
not a single one of them even ever heard of rus cinema
this nation is almost doomed, a few individuals are still open to critical thinking ideas, but have yet to hear any

also this >>131109681

>>131086371
1. us
2. russians. americans are too lazy and stupid to fight back against badass ruskies, to be honest
3. probably puting lel. ex-kgb

>>131092701
>>131090751
lol wot?
do you even live in california?
it has harsh gun-control/ammunition laws to the point where it's called "commiefornia".
the laws got stricter beginning of this year
people here are pussy liberals who would gladly give up their right to bear arms.
at least the southern part of california.