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Was Paul redpilled or just a dirty space muslim? What are

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Was Paul redpilled or just a dirty space muslim? What are your thoughts?
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I think first book was meh so I didn't read the rest
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blue pilled
>spice habit
>rides the worm
>trying to be edgy
>space muslim
>2 waifus
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>>131072081
I feel like all of that stuff was means to secure his power though. I would say the only bluepilled thing he did was not go all-out jihad. He was afraid of himself.
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>>131071451
Red pilled as hell. Paul was the result of a genetic project worked on for centuries, but the plan backfired at the end and he went off on his own path. He became the ultimate "Muslim" on dune- savior, leader of jihad with unstoppable armies, ability to see the future. And he won his battle and took over the empire. But in the second book when he saw all that glory (70 virgins, slaves, etc) What did he do? BURNED HIS EYES OUT WITH A NUKE TO PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING TO HIS CHILDREN
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>>131072870
He demonstrates the folly of ideologies like Islam/Zionism. And much of the rest of the story is about the native fermen and how their traditional ways and culture will always defeat "invaders" and race mixing mutts who wanted to "civilize" (sjw) their planet
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>>131072575
>not go all-out jihad

He led the mother fucking galactic jihad throughout the known universe. Killed billions of people and sterilized dozens of planets.
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>>131073191
is space jihad red pilled?
asking for research purposes.
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>>131071451
he was more a Lawrence, channeled the space muslim's anger where he wanted it to go.
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>>131073191
Paul didn't Leto II started the scattering.
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>>131073612
he still spread the space muslim religion across the galaxy until it was the state religion and his son was the God of that religion.
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>>131073712
no. Paul finished the war his mom even protected Caladan during it.
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>>131071451
I'm halfway through the second book. So far he's just a space muslim.
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>>131071451
Hell-oooo-OOOO!
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>>131073894
>bothering to read past the first book
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>>131073894
haha second one is half read for me too and hes just a mussy at the moment
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>>131071451
The whole story was about how White men manipulate and use the conquest-culture of the Middle East for their own means. Look at the parallels between the proxy wars of Russia and America.
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>>131071451
>Was Paul redpilled or just a dirty space muslim?
Who cares? Dune is completely overrated. When people praise it it's like feminists praising menstrual blood 'art'. Entirely unconvincing unless you drank the kool-aid.
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>>131071451
You, Sir, have to read the second book by Frank Herbert.
Otherwise you wouldn't ask such a stupid question.
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>>131071451
His handling of statecraft encompassed all of humanity for millennia.

You are like an insect under the heel of a god to question the Kwisatz Haderach.
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>>131071451
Was there something in dune that was basically
>good guys in a ship arrive at a planet
>go down
>make it to abandon military base
>evil guy in big ship with accompanying fleet shows up in orbit
>goes down
>some fucked up creatures attacking good guys
>has some bitch on their team
>they get they shield generators online
>may have stopped the creatures from coming into the base
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Like the prophecy, I too would call a big one.
Channi would ride my Shai Hlaboof while freebasing Spice, Duncan smashes Jessica.
Gurney plays space porno music.
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>>131074272
shit, the 4th is almost as good as the first
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Might read the books when I'm old.
The film was class. Still holds its own.
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>>131075274

Wait, are you saying Paul foresaw a future where humanity was wiped out by thinking machines? I don't remember that. I think he just wanted to shake up the current order for some reason.
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>>131076478
>Paul foresaw a future where humanity was wiped out by thinking machines
Nope. Thinking machines were already permabanned long before the story even begins. Hence the mentats.
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>>131076478
>>131076794
Thinking machines were banned, but humanity was doomed unless Paul followed The Golden Path, which included scattering humanity far and wide throughout the cosmos. Paul couldn't bring himself to do it, but his son Leto did so by merging with the immortal sandworms and becoming God Emperor.
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