You have exactly 10 seconds to provide a legitimate reason why

I'm all for access. I just shouldn't have to pay for it.

>>131061894
They should have access to it, if they pay for it.

Law of nature.

>>131061977
>>131062009
>want the white race to prosper
>isn't willing to pay for it
whites want to be genocided

>>131061977
I agree. The 1% can easily pay for it all from their profits and still have tons more money than anyone else. There's no reason 99% of society should have to pay for their own healthcare anymore.

Overweight people should have to pay a proportional amount extra to their weight and health risk. Healthy people should not have to foot the bill for people who make terrible lifestyle choices.

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PAY

>>131061894
>You have exactly 10 seconds to provide a legitimate reason why people shouldn't have access to quality healthcare.

Look at your image, you just posted it.

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>>131061894

>>131061977
>>131062009
But what if they can't afford it? Are you seriously saying someone doesn't deserve healthcare if they're poor? You're both the scum of society.

>>131061894
Everyone in the USA has the right to healthcare.

But they have to pay for it, just like they do for some other rights.

>I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS WHERE'S MY FREE GUN

>>131062121
I'll gladly pay for any friend and family member in need of healthcare, I just don't want to pay for Mahmoud and his 12 children.

>>131061894
Long wait times
Hypochondriacs hogging system
Lower quality healthcare

This isn't even a question if you studied a man degree in college

>>131062255
Maybe they should get health insurance

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>>131061894
IF YOU MUFUKKIN SKINNIES DONT PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE

I refuse to pay for fat fucks health care when they dont give a single fuck about their health. Let thw cholesterol and beetus take them.

>>131062179
Jobless nigger detected

>>131061894
they don't deserve it, especially fat people.

>>131061894
Health is not something you can have given to you, it's something you give yourself via your lifestyle. Medicine is for treating diseases, not generally poor health from bad diet and lifestyle.

>>131061894
you cannot force people to take care of other people. in order to give these slobs health care you must force people. slavery is bad. diaf.

>>131062472
POP OFF JAMES!

>>131062434
And what if they can't afford health insurance?

>>131062179
I know absolutely nothing about economics: the post

>>131062601
Then they should either ask charity or reconsider their life choices

>>131062601
Maybe they should get a job

>>131061894
You have to many niggers and mexicans to have free healthcare. We have 20% and it's allready collapsing.

>>131061977
fpbp

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You just activated my trap card. Now you're gonna pay.

>>131062472
POP OFF JAMES!

>>131061894
you do get quality healthcare you just have to pay

>>131062707
>magic
>trap card
you fucked up

>>131062674
>>131062675
Edgy teenagers detected. When your parents kick you out and you have to provide for yourself, maybe you'll realize how thin the line can be between getting by and being homeless.

>>131062601
They get a job then.

And for your next question: "hurr what if they can't?"

You keep feeding a tapeworm then wonder why it gets bigger.

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>>131062601
How about you poor fags set better priorities.
>Muh new Jew phone 7

>>131062841
boogie is that you?

>>131061894
Because I don't want to pay for the healthcare of lazy, entitled slobs like Boogie. Fuck off.

>>131061894
Eugenics

>>131061894
Promotes laziness. Look at that fat fuck boogey. He cries about how he could die if he cares so much about his health Yet he hasn't even bothered to change his diet nor attempted to lose weight.

>>131062472
POP OFF JAMES!

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>>131061894
What if someone where to do something stupid and jet ski off a waterfall, getting themselves injured and racking up massive medical bills? Why should we subsidize the stupid decisions of the individual?

>>131062707
>trap card
>mtg

Wrong game kiddo. I tap two islands to play Unsummon on your shitty post.

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>>131061894

>Healthcare requires the labor of others
>No labor should be imposed on persons without incentive
>Taxation should not be imposed on persons without consent

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>>131062255
>EVERYONE DESERVES FREE HEALTHCARE BECAUSE THEY ARE PEOPLE AND THEREFORE THEY MUST ALWAYS BE KEPT HEALTHY BECAUSE IF THEY ARENT KEPT HEALTHY THEY MIGHT DIE AND I DONT LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE DIE BECAUSE DYING IS A SAD THING

You're literally 6. If people can't afford healthcare, they don't get healthcare. Sucks for them. Maybe they should rearrange their priorities.

>>131062990
>instants are traps
no

>>131062255
>But what if they can't afford it?

Tough tits? You go without just like you would anything else you couldn't afford.

>>131062990
Do you know how MTG card types and archetypes work?

>>131061894
Healthcare is not a right. It is a service provided by someone who provides that service for income.

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>>131061894
Fuck off fatties all deserve death

Sage

>>131061894
you should be responsible for your own life not the gov or me

>>131061894
natural selection

>>131063230

POP OFF JAMES!

>>131061894

Well, i live in Denmark, so we have access to quality healthcare. Its just that you fat piece of shit Americans are too busy. Faggotting it up over there with Trump, Hillary, and generations of capitalism to organize it.

>>131062121

Maybe instead of forcing others to pay for health insurance we should focus on making health care more affordable.

There are a number of things we could do right now that would make health care more competitive and affordable that wouldn't cost the tax payer a fucking dime.

>>131061894
if i cant afford my own healthcare,
why should i pay yours?

>>131061894
PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE

>>131062255
No one DESERVES healthcare. You can either afford it, or you can't.

>>131063160
This.

I can't afford a Bugatti or Ferrari, does that men I am now entitled to a taxpayer funded luxury sports car?

>>131063238
This. I don't care about your shitty genes, that's your problem.

>>131062255

If there is a poor person that cant afford healthcare, you are free to pay for that persons healthcare costs.

>>131062847
I think the real issue is that sometimes if people lose there job, even if they get a new one quite quickly, the whole thing has to be processed which means there will be several weeks if not months where they aren't covered.

>>131062841
Nice projecting. I don't really have sympathy for people like you. I just picked a fun and well paying career in STEM. It's not that hard

>>131062282
This

Bc the people who don't have it are poor and should die

>>131062121
The weak should fear the strong

>>131062255
>But what if they can't afford it?
What can I say? Life aint no picnic

>Are you seriously saying someone doesn't deserve healthcare if they're poor?

Yes, I should not be forced to pay for your health while you can't pay for mine, same with food-stamps.

>You're both the scum of society.

Well you are a whiny bitch that will say the same as they did if you weren't poor.

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>>131063382
yea boi

>>131063167
>>131063121

Still a trap subtype

>>131063442
If no one is poor, everyone is poor. Are you suggesting everyone deserves to die?

>>131061894
Why should an organism that would be unable to survive without external aid receive any?

>>131062601
Then sad for them. Why should I bust my ass just to lose some of my money? Charity should never be mandatory.

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>>131062707

>mfw those are those gay ass jumbo mtg cards but the fat fuck makes them almost look like the smaller version

>>131061894
You have exactly 10 seconds to provide a legitimate reason why people shouldn't have access to quality car care.

Pro tip: it's fucking easy.

You can't do it cause nobody could assure quality healthcare for 330 million peolple. Pro tip stop raiding /pol/ for your summer project.

>>131061894
but everyone has access to quality healthcare, just pay it out of your pocket

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>>131061894
why can't this fat fuck just die already

>>131061894
Survival of the fittest, a thousand years from now our descendants will thank us because they'll be stronger and healthier.

>>131063537
>instants are traps
nope, fuck off with your nigger card game

>>131063694
superior american health care

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>>131063555
What the fuck are you talking about, you literal autist?

>>131061894
A country needs to be culturally homogeneous and highly charity-minded for it to work. See: Japan, Europe before the 90s.

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I'm tried of people asking us to take care of them when they hate us, and they cannot take care of themselves.

>>131061894

How many people are you, personally, required to underwrite?

Because if you're pushing single payer and Healthcare as a human right, you're saying every taxpayer is responsible for some number of other people, though not for themselves. I'm a net tax payer in good health. How ,any people am I required to underwrite by my own labor?

If your answer is any number less than "anyplace of them", then you're admitting that at a certain point people stop having a claim to my labor, even if doing so results in their death. At that point we aren't arguing human rights in the absolute terms you mean when you say "human right." We're arguing numbers, and yours is no more principled than mine.

>>131061894
they can fucking pay for it like i have been doing since i was 18 years old.
thanks to obama though that same plan which was $60/month is now 210/month
the same exact fucking plan

>>131061894
No one should be disallowed but I don't want to take the punishment for their fuck ups.

>>131061894
i should have access to a jaguar f type
>mfw i can't afford it

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>>131062472
POP OFF JAMES

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>>131063799
No one can be poor if everyone is making 5 shekels a year.

>>131061894
When they have costly health issues caused solely by their own laziness and poor life choices.

>>131063942
My parents' insurance skyrocketed to the point where it costed only $100 less than their mortgage. They had to sell their second house in a shitty market, taking a loss, simply because shitty people cannot take care of themselves.

>>131062472
POP OFF JAMES!

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Christ this shit again? You know with about 5 of these threads being made every fucking day you'd think nu/pol/ would learn by now. Fucking morons
Sage in all fields

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>>131064149
its fucking crazy dude. i thought about just canceling it then i remembered you get fucking fined for not having it and on top of that i ride a motorcycle so i almost need it despite not being to a doctor in literally over a decade

>>131061894
Everyone has access to quality healthcare in the USA.
1) Hospitals cannot denie treatment to anyone including illegals.
2) Insurance is easy to get without obamacare, all you need is a full time job.
3) millions of americans use hospital service as a primary care sticking the cost to insured people.

USA healthcare is 100% percent socialized. If you can afford it, you have to pay, if you cant afford it, your free to get healthcare and ignore the bill till the hospital stops trying.

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>>131061894
>Access

>ACCESS

ACCESS IS NOT THE SAME THING AS GIVING SOME CUNT EVERYTHING FOR FREE.

Healthcare was meant for soldiers that fight and deserve it so they can fight further, not fat filthy parasites that are supposed to be dead.

>>131061894
>You have exactly 10 seconds to provide a legitimate reason why people shouldn't have access to quality healthcare.
Everyone in the usa has access to heathcare right now....Oh but it is too expensive? Well, that is because overall you are all fat fucks that are expensive to fix.

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>everyone talks about how ""MUH HEALHCARE" is impossible to afford
>they also say it's impossible to find an employer that gives it
>tfw I graduated this year and before graduating I found a job that pays full health benefits
>I'm also still on mummy's plan because I' m <26
>tfw double insured

>>131061894
you are not entitled to someone else's labor

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>>131061894
>access to quality healthcare
everyone has access
you just have to pay the bill when it arrives
the republicans ensured access to healthcare to all regardless of citizenship or ability to pay by passing EMTALA in 1986

>>131063296
like what

>>131061894
I would rather train people to go give quality health care to Africans than spend it on American retard slobs.

/pol/ has bigger issues than healthcare right now OP. Like which bathroom people use, terrorists that kill less Americans in all of combined history than guns kill children in a single year, and just recently cartoon elsa eating a giant gummie worm.

>>131064086
Good fucking lord, WHY EVEN LIVE?????????

>>131061894
>Pro Tip:
You have to go back
>>>/reddit/

>>131064977
like forcing them to actually compete so no hospital can have a monopoly in one state or region

>>131061894
because its a synthetic scaffold of civilization. it ignores the zero state of existence of no doctors and having to rely on eating right and exercise to take care of oneself. and if you live in a city and try to say something like "what if i get hit by a car?" or some other dumb reason, then you are ignoring the fact that you have assumed the risk of living in such an environment.

>>131065101
Because its fat fucking fingers can't get inside a trigger guard.

>>131062185
Overweight people live shorter lives. They end up costing less.

>>131062255
That's exactly what I'm saying. I work my ass off and I'm still drowning in bills. I would like to have that Medicare and Medicaid contribution back. I did not agree to help hapless niggers get pain pills you faggot. Neck yourself.

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>>131063039
>>131063121
>being this buttmad over a kid's game
holy fuck boys come off it already

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>>131061894
(((Access))) is not the same a free

>>131061894
Because other people shouldn't have to pay for my or you healthcare. if someone cant afford a service they shouldn't get it on the backs of people who can, that being said a lot can and should be done to bring the price of healthcare down in the United States.

Just because we don't want the government to do it, doesn't mean that it should not happen

I have no problem with that; you just have to pay for your own sorry ass.
Now fuck off back to your college

>>131064086
>>131061894
If twittertwat leftists were smart, they'd ban this motherfucker as he is living propaganda against liberal welfare states. Do you LIKE taking care of lazy narcissistic sacks of shit?

>>131063039
You're an idiot.

>>131061894
Everyone should have it. But how.

>>131062255

I'm really willing to compromise on this. Subsidize part of the cost of people with preexisting conditions that reduce their ability to work. The subsidy will be funding by a tax on fat people. We'll just count people with a BMI over 30, and unless they can produce a doctor's note saying "This motherfucker is fuckin swole brah", they all get to pay an equal share of whatever the healthcare budget deficit was that year. If the healthcare deficit for preexisting conditions was 100 billion, then we divide that bill by the number of fat people.

There are about 100 million Americans who are obese at BMI >30. So that 100 billion is a surprise 1000 tax to each of them, every year.

If I don't have the freedom to keep my money away from your fat, you don't have the freedom to keep your fat.

>>131061894
>why people shouldn't have access to quality healthcare. Pro tip: You can't.
Nobody disputes that. We dispute having to pay for them. I already pay for my own. This is a slider thread methinks...stay tuned for yuge annoucement at 2pm EST. Libs BTFO.

>>131061894

Doctors, medicine, and hospitals are not free. Someone has to pay for these things. If you can't pay for them, you shouldn't be treated.

Are these things too expensive? Yes. But the solution is to make them cheaper - not free. Free is not a sustainable concept.

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>>131061894
PAY
FOR
HIS HEALTHCARE
RL


REEEEEE

>>131061894

Due to capitalism.

People will do things for money.

More money makes them do more things, better things.

If you're bad at what you're doing you won't get paid (much)

Why is it that pol people don't understand simple, selfregulatory systems???

Pro tip: because they are retarded ofc!

>>131062192
MY

>>131061894
>You have exactly 10 seconds to provide a legitimate reason why people shouldn't have access to quality healthcare.
I agree. Everyone should access to any kind of healthcare they want. They should also have to pay for it.

>>131062255
I absolutely need a new car, I fucking cannot survive without it. BUY ME A NEW CAR I'LL DIE

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>>131068551
HEALTHCARE

>>131062472
POP OFF JAMES!

>>131061894
I would be all for a commission of health care professionals and actuaries developing a funding plan based on taxing contributors to major health problems. For example, let's say processed foods are determined to cause 15% of colon cancer cases. I would argue that the foods should then be taxed to pay for 15% of national colon cancer cases.

The government should also stop subsidizing industries that contribute to health concerns such as corn, other wise we are just paying to fix a self created problem. On the same note, the government should also stop funding dysgenic social policies to prevent artificial strain on this system.

I would also like to see medical tax breaks for people without lifestyle induced medical problems. I don't think any rational person would be opposed to fat fucks like boogey having to contribute more to the system.

>tl;dr You can't have your cake and eat it too

>>131061894
>You have exactly 10 seconds to provide a legitimate reason why people shouldn't have access to quality healthcare.


Everyone should have access to quality healthcare, but you should be considered a ward of the state if you engage in actions that could be considered to be self-abuse. That doesn't mean you get more free shit to stuff in your face. It means someone from the government will run your fucking life. And if you try to circumvent it you'll be sent to a facility where they will fucking break you so they can fix you.

>>131061894
I think everyone should have access to healthcare, Just like everyone should be able to own a gun.

So everyone should be allowed to buy health insurance.

Great job OP, we have solved the healthcare problem.

>>131061894

Humans are disease of this planet. We should stop reproducing ourself and go hand in had towards well deserved extinction...

>>131063230
POP OFF JAMES!

>>131062255
You are not entitled to my money.

>>131070853
Money is just the government telling you that you have something of value. You don't actually possess anything of value save for if the government tells you you own land or if you're capable of labor. But then it isn't solid value. It's potential exploitative value.

>>131061894
money

>>131061894
You don't have the right to good health

>>131061894
People who exercise and remain fit should not be burdened with paying medical bills for fatso assholes.

>>131061894
Healthcare should be socialized, let cuckservatives roost in their own multiracial fuckhole they made. Plus Whites can get free healthcare.

>>131061894
because people are cattle