Democrats are ruining everything here in illinois. I live he

Oh look. You retards ignored this post too. Wow so much intelligent discussions here on pol/. Fucking piece of shit board now

>>131058407
Bump

>>131058407
Everybody already knows. Let us know when it actually happens.

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Detroit 2.0

>>131058407
I drove through southern Illinois on the way to chiraq, and if you told me I was balls deep in a defunct soviet satellite I would have believed you. Depressing as hell.

What about Kansas? What's the matter with Kansas? You shouldn't throw stones, Republicananons, especially since you live in glass houses.

pay up whitey

>>131059118
This. We need Illinois to crash and burn before we can make an example out of it. It's already fish-tailing today. We just need to show that it was democrats that thought it was a good idea to drive full speed in the rain which led to the crashing and burning.

>>131058407

You entire state is a fucking disaster. Chicago is a warzone and no one in your state or the country acknowledges it. Sorry friend but this is your wake up call.

>>131059610
I can 2nd this, back when I was a truck driver I stopped for the night in southern Illinois, I've never seen more depressed people anywhere else in the country. I visited Chicago when I was nine years old and the black vendor refused to give me any ice cream associated with cartoon characters. Thus my hatred of both black people and ice cream vendors was born.

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Redpill me on this whole Illinois debacle. Why wont the Dems there (Madigan especially) compromise with Republicans on a budget? Is it all because of Chicago? Dems too afraid to not give handouts to the niggers there and lose their voting machine?

Since states can't legally declare bankruptcy, I wish/want Trump to bail it out on condition that Chicago revokes its sanctuary status.

>>131058407
You know democrats will blame Trump.

Did the Democrats also ruin Oklahoma? What happened there?

>>131059707
>a state with far lower GDP cuts taxes and loses money due to lowered revenue
>a state with high GDP and insane taxes goes bankrupt all the same because they squander money

Totally comparable.

>>131058407
Fake news.

>>131058407
sure, dont lay any blame of the idiot governor

Did Democrats make Louisiana go bankrupt too?

>>131059922
>Thus my hatred of both black people and ice cream vendors was born.
I'd like to see where that ends up.

>>131058776

We have already seen this shit. This is old news. Come back when they are eating each other.

Kane county checking. Part of my 8500 property taxes now pays for cpd pensions that taught niglets. And my kids go to school with spics because muh diversity. I bought this house based on school district, then they redistricted. Fuck this state I'm leaving next year.

>>131060009
>>131060080
>being so fucking desperate you spam the thread in a vain attempt to deflect blame

Why are you so proud of the depressing commie-block hell holes your party fosters?

>>131058407
>strictest gun laws in chicago
hahahaha how's that working out

>>131060110
Hopefully an "Armored Core" type scenario.

>>131060198
> 8500 property taxes

Fuuuug! What's your home's value?

>>131060080

Dems didn't, Bobby "Poo in Loo" Jindal did.

Zillow estimates 312k. Paid 230l in 2010.

>>131060198
I'm in kane also on the border of crook county. While I like certain aspects of this state overall it's a shit show. I have a 5 year plan to get out.

>>131060243
Why are you so proud of the depressing, uneducated, insolvent shit holes your party fosters? Or maybe there's more at play in Oklahoma, Kansas, Illinois and Louisiana than simply attributing state budget problems to the party in power?..... hmm

>>131059944
State has been mismanaged for decades to prop up Chicago. It's a beautiful example of the tyranny of the majority. People are finally starting to flee to surrounding states. Half of the people I went to school with chose to leave and live in Indiana, Missouri, and Wisconsin.

>>131058407
Here in Europe we will ignore this thanks to our independent media.

Illinois is the 5th largest state economy.

>that feel when my state is going to have to build an eastern wall to stop the invading niggers from Chicago

>>131060983
There is a reason Illinois is one of the most fucked states and it's because of corruption on both sides of the aisle. Hell it's what Illinois and Chicago specifically are known for. Even our governors go to jail regularly. You could ask almost anyone in the US what state had the most corruption and most would say Illinois, it's engrained in the culture here. We'd need a clean sweep of everyone in power. We basically have family dynasties and individuals who get into positions of power and then are there forever.

>>131061250
Your mom is the 5th largest human.

Robbing your citizens to pay for failing businesses makes a large economy, but an incredibly unhealthy one.

>>131059995
Nah, this has been a problem even before Obongo

>>131058407
>Detroit
>illinois
>their own party

What's next for these absolute madx?

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>>131061423
*blocks your path*
Most corrupt, eh?

>>131060009
As an Oklahoman, fuck off. This state is a lot better to live in than any liberal shithole.

>>131061099
No fuck you we dont want your cancer in Wisconsin

>>131061588
They will blame Trump if it rains, the media will back them up and lie as always.

Facts don't matter anymore.

>>131060198
Fuck, I'm moving to Lake or leaving this shit hole

>>131060390
Fun fact: if you live in the city of Chicago, you will pay city, county, state, and federal taxes.

Crime in Chiraq is starting to get out of fucking control

It used to just happen in the South or West side but just last week there was a shooting outside the Art Instiutute downtown. Even the North side is starting to see carjackings and burglaries.
Trump should either call the national guard in or just let the city end up like Detroit

>>131061293
Niggers will stay as long as gibs are abundant. You're gonna get white trash

Moody's will lower Illinois' credit to junk in the next couple of weeks since no budget has been passed. So glad I rent my home in comfy McHenry, where there are almost no niggers.

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This is it in a nutshell

>>131058407
Why don't they just legalize weed? Wouldn't that help their financial crisis?

wuddup to mai /cpd/ roberts

>>131060025
>Cutting taxes reduces tax revenue

Librul economics right there.

>>131058407
isn't there talk of dissolving Illinois anyways.
i don't really care either way.
I think metropolitan areas should all be removed from states and given city state status.
That way, they have to be accountable or get fucked.

>>131059922
I will screencap this for when there is a string of ghetto ice cream truck driver murders.

>>131058407
Bump. We all know Democrats are retarded and deflect their own shortcomings onto others. The biggest problems with most of pol is that it's more fun to chimp out on lefty faggot posts and prove them wrong instead of finding out what we already essentially know, that Democrats just funnel money out of our pockets and into theirs or the nog communities for voting blocs.

>>131058407
Florida anon here, never been to illinois or chicago. Can anyone tell me how bad it really is? I have been reading the news on how bad it is but I would like a personal example from any chicagofags or illinoisfags out there.

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>>131058776
Fellow illinoisan here.

Its the madigans, and the liberal cabal.
Chicago just decided to give illegals welfare, while my school district might collapse chicago is spending money to give illeagls (non citizens) freebies.
Meanwhile the ACTUAL tax payers get fucked.
>Pic related, wonder what the # is now?

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>>131059902
>le chiraq warzone niggers maymay

Delusional faggot who's never been here detected. Parts pf the city nobody goes to are bad, but far more of the city is a great place to be.

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>>131061847
Yeah, I see that now. The media is absolutely fucked

>>131059814
It's the only way we will learn.

>>131061817
What's it like being a big oil cuck?

>>131062348
>people don't realize that Obama took this principal to the federal government
>people don't know that unemployment dropped so much during Obama because of Fed hires

>>131059944
The debt came from dems giving massive pensions to state workers.

However, Rauner demands right to work before he signs any budget. Madigan won't give him that.

>>131059610

On the two different occasions that I drove through Illinois there were police/sheriffs/highway patrol hiding behind every tree and sign along the entire length of the highway.
Illinois is hungry.

>>131059902
In reality it's only the black side downtown Chicago is actually just fine. And the suburbs of Chicago are fine too

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>>131060027
Fuck you
>Its real faggot, fuckin jews

>>131062557
I've never seen a shooting in person in all my time living here because I don't live by niggers. Taxes suck ass.

>>131062617
You are literally engulfed in a bubble of shit. If you leave city center and need gas, and dont stop at the rip-off stations downtown, you'll be pulling into the ghetto in no time praying you dont get shot while you pump gas.

>>131062557
Credit rating is down the shitter
Haven't posted a budget in years
Government workers are getting pensions slashed
Taxes on fucking everything are going trough the roof
People are leaving in masses

They'll either get bailed out by the Feds or the state gradually collapse
I'm hoping for the latter

>>131058407
Democrats are ruining the entire country. They have been for 50+ years. Illinois will be the first casualty. Stay the fuck out of my state Illinois refugees. Fuck off we're full.

>>131061817
Lmao. I've been to your state, it's a third world shithole.

>>131058407
>dailywire
Fake news

>>131062617
City fag your entire city smells like rotten sewage.

>>131060983
I'm not proud, I recognize them for what they are, low economic producers with a small tax base that doesnt like to be burdened.

That's the absolute fucking opposite of Illinois, you retard. Are you proud of the rate in which you squander other people's money?

>>131062890
What? Have you ever been to Chicago?

States a shit hole.
Moved out almost 8 years ago, just moved back.

Infrastructure is almost nonexistent.
Full of fat white trash.

Probably going to move to montana. Very white aside from the wagon burners, also no right to work

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>>131060983
Niggers vote Democrat.
Niggers get freebies.
Government unions vote democratic.
Politicians promised to give them HUGE pensions if they just vote for the democrats, knowing it couldnt be paid for
Illinois is drowning in debt.
Illinois is at the mercy of chicago, who is Democrat run.
>Democrats are blameless according to you.......kek.......

>>131063064
Twice.

>>131062557
Honestly, your wallet would hurt the most. As long as you stay in the North, Northwest, Southwest suburbs outside of Chicago you're fine. If you live outside of Chicago metropolitan it depressing. I'm actually planning on moving offer down to you, where's a good place to live?

>>131063075
I wonder if it has anything to do with fucking Chicago spending all the God damn tax revenue? I bet the roads in shitcago are great. And Laquesha at the DMV needs her $2 million pension. Don't be racist.

>>131062890
Over the last twelve years i've lived on the far north side, bucktown, south loop, logan square, bridgeport. Have never felt unsafe. You're a fucking pussy who probably lives in the suburbs. The entire north side is fine, the entire NW side is fine, downtown is fine, near SW side is fine. That is a massive area of the city that is fine.

>>131061099

Stop coming to Kansas City. We are full.
We are tired of all the migrants from Chicago and California who keep flooding our city.

>>131063260
Sorry I'm not pc enough for Pol..

>>131062881
how much do you pay for tax percentage wise? know anyone that has left for other states?

>>131062348
Holy shit thats fucked. I had no idea the state was that fucked in the private sector

t. iowa

>>131063269
How expensive is a cuckshed on the north side cuckboi?

California is right behind them.

>>131062924
>People are leaving in masses
Are you thinking of moving out?

>>131058407

This is what happens when you let retarded public officials with short sightedness and little financial background raid public pensions to fund kickbacks and wasteful government spending.

They literally justify taking money out of pension funds based on stock market projections of growth.

>>131062557
Huge nigger population.
Huge gun crime problem
>Do the math

>>131063225
I've lived here for 10 years. Previously was in L.A. NYC New Orleans and Tampa. This is the safest of all of them. You didn't pay a lot of fucking attention when you were here you tourist moron.

>>131063269
That's because billionaire kike Dems used Section 8 to kick most of the niggers out into the suburbs. Now those areas are unsafe.

>>131063344
>Pol.

Back to plebbit with ye

>>131058407

You haven't had a budget in almost 3 years.

Why are you freaking out now?

Nobody cares.

>>131063269
I literally live surrounded by spics and work in a huge ghetto. I dont care how acclimated you are to niggerdom, you're probably one yourself.

>>131063257
>where's a good place to live?
I live in kendall, which is a suburb of miami. Only downside may be the fact that since we dont have a good public transport, traffic is annoying. There are alot of cuban whites here. Gun laws are very good here. Cubans love guns.
t.cuban american

I finally got a job posy college in Chicago, movee into the northside, just trying to live.

Why are the taxes so ass fucking high? DOTR here when?

>>131061918
More taxes than there are holes to fuck must be nice.

>>131063257
makes sense about the wallet being affected the most. taxes and general prices must be bad.

>>131063269
>ghetto apologists
Lemme guess, "just don't be stupid, just don't be outside after sundown, just don't make eye contact"

>>131063552
>tampa
>unsafe

lol, the ghettos in tampa are literally minuscule compared to the ones on the outskirts of chicago. You yankees are fucking pathetic tryhards defending your miserable shitholes.

>>131060575
Last i saw LA was financially solvent.

>>131058407
We're talking about you idiots declaring bankruptcy.

We've noticed that Demorats can't run jack shit.

>>131063635
Sorry you're poor

And i mean really poor, because it isn't even that expensive to live in a white neighborhood in Chicago

>>131063470
kek, lol i have experienced that in liberty city (miami ghetto)

>>131058407
Bump

>>131060009
Oklahoma is poor because we refuse to invest our economy into anything other than oil. At least we aren't getting taxed to death to support do-nothing niggers.

>>131063269

>the entire middle part of the icecream is fine and safe
>the cone is safe too
>its only the top part that is covered in dog shit you dropped it on
>whats the problem with eating it? Its 90% fine!

Just because a problem isnt 100% everywhere doesnt make it any more acceptable to ignore.

>>131063809
I dont live in that shithole, you moron. I guess it's true that CPS is turning out illiterate retards like clockwork. Another democrat success story.

>>131063666
Chicago's sales tax is high city and county together is about 10%. The actual income tax rate in Illinois isn't terrible. However the property taxes are absurdly high. Income taxes might go up and I think Chicago does shitty things like tax your Netflix subscription and other stuff.

>>131063187
It's like that in next-to-fall commiefornia too except with beaners instead of niggers. My mother works for the state and the union basically tells them "vote democrat or else."

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>>131063568
This

Used to live in the far south suburbs which weren't ever affluent, but definitely safe, comfy and sustainable. Now? It's all a fucking shithole except for a few nice pockets like Homewood and Tinley/Orland Park. And it is getting worse by the day. Just had a walmart move in to town right by our local Dollar Tree!

>>131063757
Rofflecups, they're far from solvent
>>131063761
It's in the Illinois constitution that they can't file BK to get out of the pension obligations. The union leadership and politicians fucked Illinois for eternity. The laws need to be changed.

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>>131063731
No, literally the entire green area in pic related is fine at any hour of the day. Chicago is massive so this is probably 100 square miles.

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>>131058407
But that's bullshit, obamaleaf told me that democrats are the best and deter/fix all of the rebuplishit's mistakes

>>131062413
Chk ur keys

>>131062617
"It's ok, the warzone is only next door. It will never spill over here!"

>>131063658
Sounds based as fuck. It takes 1.5 hours to go thirty miles on the highways here, that won't be an issue. Do the houses in the suburbs have a lot of land on them?

>>131062413
/realroberthours/ is always a great time

>>131064042
That's a small part of the greater metropolitan area colloquially known and referred to as "chicago".

Cherry-pick harder next time.

>>131063658
I wish central Florida were full of Cubans instead of puerto rican trash.

>>131064275
No it's literally over half the city you stupid fuck

>>131059922
>> I visited Chicago when I was nine years old and the black vendor refused to give me any ice cream associated with cartoon characters. Thus my hatred of both black people and ice cream vendors was born
>birth of a supervillain

>>131059610
My parents got us out of that shit hole 10 years ago. The writing was on the wall. In elementary school, there was 1 black person in my class (Lansing, IL). In middle school, it seemed to be about 20% and by the time I went to high school, it was almost 50% black. I ended up moving my junior year because the town turned into a ghetto shit hole.

I just looked and nogs make up about 60% of the students now and 71% are from low income families.

I can imagine all the smart white people either moved long ago or can afford to send their kids to private school.

>>131063708
I notice it the most when I go to school. I pay around half of what I would in West Central Illinois than in Crook Country in general. It doesn't make me want to jump off the Sears tower, but it still sucks.

>>131064359
Which Latino's are the based ones? I've meet a few Mexicans and I hear good things about Cubans for the most part.

>>131064366
>I-it's over h-half the city I swear!
Are you saying that by your estimation, nearly half the city isnt safe then?

>>131058776

Pol is polpleb. Stupid reactive beings driven by their feelz. They're not into serious discussions.

>>131063157
>wagon burners
Is that some sort of slur for Injuns?

>>131058407
It's amazing what one "diverse" city can do to the rest of a state.

>>131061804
Cuomo looks like a mob boss, too.

>>131064597
The "based ones" are the ones you wouldnt assume are hispanic because they're not constantly harping on it. Good luck finding them.

>>131058407
Bump

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>>131064423

>>131058407
Hol up hol up

Why can't the Republican gov. fix this? Are all policies of big cities determined by their major?

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and it's all because of Chicago
liberals destroy everything they touch

We need mo munny foh dem programz n shieeet

>>131064636
If you'd ever lived in a city, you'd know there is a lot of space between "perfectly fine" (which is what i circled in green) and "unsafe." There is olenty outside the green that i wouldn't call unsafe. And if you want me to count the suburbs the green is only going to get bigger.

At the end of the day, the Chicago metro area has hundreds of square miles of purely safe neighborhoods and suburbs where you virtually never see a nigger. It also has a smaller subset of areas that are extremely dangerous that no sane person would ever go.

I don't know why /pol/tards get so worked up about Chicago violence. It's almost entirely niggers killing niggers, something you should be happy about. They aren't just walking up to white people in good neighborhoods and shooting them.

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>>131064042
just this year

>>131063353
I recently moved to will county just 30 min outside Chicago. Property taxes were at minumum 8400/yr for a 250k house. You get charged for plastic bags at grocery stores, we are going to be paying 1.89 for a 20oz of soda in cook county, the state was mulling around the idea of charging people tax for using netflix and hulu services, they also wanted a congestion tax for those who commute into the city. Parking lots usually cost 20 dollar minimum anywhere downtown, double if there is an event going on. Millions are sunk into creating new parks. Chicago public school teachers go on strike every year and complain that they only get 65-70k to work 6 months out of the year. I could go on and on and on. It really stems from 1 asshole, Mike Madigan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgVP3H122nw

>>131064929
This looks like something my grandpa would post on facebook

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>>131059610
which part of Southern Illinois?

The part that is mostly corn-fields and small towns that never grew in size, or the part that is St. Louis/Chicago-like except with more failed businesses?

>>131065158
Then you should listen to him, he's wiser than you are.

>>131058407
I always point out (((Chicago))) on /pol. almost every progressive Happening links back to (((Chicago))) in one way or another...

>>131065158
Hope your listening to him then.

>>131064423
>>131064830
Worth noting that Obama had intended to implement this program nation-wide. They were literally identifying neighborhoods that were too white.

>>131059944
Unions. If Democrats gave in to Republicans they'd lose a lot of funding, respect, etc.

The #1 problem with Illinois is Unions. My home of Decatur has gone to shit because of them.

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>>131061099
My sister left for Indiana and then Tennessee.
Indiana is better than Illinois in every single way.

>better gun laws
>lower taxes
>less Mexicans
>greener grass
>Indiana's version of Chicago isn't nearly as cancerous

>>131062393
In the short term yes but as with any bit of revenue within Illinois or new tax passed it always goes to someone's pocket and a small portion might go to the actual thing it was supposed to fund

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>IL broke
>Ask for bailout

"how 'bout...NO!"

>>131065104
Once in a while on the northside you'll read in the neighborhood blotter that

>"At 3:42AM, nigger 1 shot nigger 2. Their addresses are (southside shithole)."

Don't be a nigger and you'll be fine in Chicago.

>>131065055
I do live in a city. That "line" you referred to is often one street, or a block. Orlando has a street named "Division" right on the edge of downtown, guess what it divides? The nightlife, and the part of town where people get shot, stabbed, and raped by niggers.

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>>131064880
Or at the very least, what are some things to do here? Must see places?

Never lived in the city before/was more of a homebody growing up, so any ideas welcome

>>131065173
It was the corn fields post-harvest, plus the towns that grind up their populace to grow a subsidized crop. Oh, and even more subsidized windmills fucking up what scenery there was.

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>>131058407

> Gov. Bruce Rauner (R)

>>131065300
Getting rid of all the niggers while making yourself sound holier-than-thou is Level 70 kikery.

>>131060387
or Twisted Metal

>illinois gibs run dry
>nigs and spics all migrate to Milwaukee for Wisconsin's also very generous gibs

we're fucked

>>131064929
>liberals
Liberals only destroy things because they indulge non-Whites. It's non-Whites that ruined Detroit, the Left just helps them do it. Blaming "liberals" is just a way of avoiding the truth.

>>131058407
Bump

>>131065915

most non whites are animals too stupid to take care of themselves
Do you blame the dog for the owner teaching it to be violent.
Cause and effect
Liberals are the cause
Niglets are the effect

>>131065418
PAY
>boogie.jpg

>>131059944
You Nigger. Only giving up Sanctuary? Fuck off. Federal comptroller with an emphasis on troll and federal police.

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>>131065819
you stupid fuck they elected a Republican finally because the state was already fucked beyond repair and he is the only person who could possibly fix it.

Liberalshits don't know shit about fuck apparently.

>>131065889
niggers don't move when things get bad, white people move.

mass white exodus is already happening. Illinois has a net migration in the negative.

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>implying it's "democrats" to blame
Portland is doing just fine.

It's niggers

>>131058407
You get what you deserve

>>131058407
>democrats ruin everything
>colorado, washington, oregon, etc are basically utopias

Hmm I wonder what the actual common denominator is here

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>>131067088
>colorado, washington, oregon, etc are basically utopias

>>131066850
Portland is a liberal hell hole that is not doing just fine, you recently caused a white woman to close her Burrito shop because of cultural appropriation. Nobody who is Mexican gives a fuck if a white person runs the Mexican eatery. Portland a shit, Chicago a shit, there's a reason we have a Chicago police scanner general, it's because Chicago is consistently violent and entertaining

Lived in Southern Illinois for almost ten years before I got out around 2010. Chicago is a fucking cancer, literally all of the state's money is spent there, simple road construction project would lie unfinished for literally years at a time since the funding to finish them simply wasn't there. Not to mention that Illinois would be a solid red state were it not for Cook county, that den of fucking niggers ruins everything in the state. Hopefully it all crashes and burns.

>>131067169
It's niggers, dude

you got too many niggers

>>131060009
You mean the state that is 99% native territories is also not a well developed utopia? Easy there goyem, you don't want to ruin the brown man superiority narrative, do you??

>>131066850
>It's niggers
Who panders to them and pretends like their niggerdom is within reasonable human behavior?

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>>131067225
>there's a reason we have a Chicago police scanner general
Because of niggers

Portland is rated as one of America's best cities. One of the few cities in America where the quality of life is comparable to European cities. It's because Portland is one of America's whitest cities

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>>131067229
>Illinois would be a solid red state were it not for Cook county, that den of fucking niggers ruins everything in the state. Hopefully it all crashes and burns.

Damn straight.

>>131065571
Ill hang out with you

>>131058407

I love the small town I live in, but our state is truly fucked. Madigan helped create this disaster, but it won't be resolved without an outcome that Madigan approves because he wields tremendous power. Thanks, Democrats.

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>>131067474
And if liberals have their way they will turn Portland into Chicago because of "muh Diversity"
sorry bro, Libs won't wake up because deep down they know if they didn't have brown voters, they would never hold power again,.

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>>131063054
The sewers were never designed to handle this much sewage 160 years ago

>>131066850
Is there ever any backstory to this beyond "niggers being niggers" like is he a rapist or steal a chicken or something?

>>131059814
Michigan isn't enough of an example we have the let the third largest metro burn to ashes to prove that niggers are feral animals and democrats make poor animal handlers?

>>131067229

Fuck Chicago. They fucking siphon money and downstate infrastructure is shit. We can't even fix our damn roads. Someone please bomb Chicago.

>>131067606
Just one question - you don't mind somewhat autistic hapas do you?

Oh no that sucks
>t. Ohio

>>131058776
We all already know Illinois is a shithole. Wall off Chicago and pretend it never existed. Problem solved.

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>>131062617
>It's great as long as you avoid the parts where people will kill you

>>131068550
split Chicago into it's own state

that will fix the problem, let the rest of Illinois elect their own damn government.

>>131065571
I grew up in Chicago, live about 50 miles nw of the city now. You will grow tired of it after a few years. It wears on you.

>>131059944
If they don't get bailed out paychecks will bounce. YUUUUUUGE.

>>131060080
>>131060009
>>131059707

You know what all these states have in common? A large population of niggers.

>>131068658
That's what it feels like. For the time being I just want to enjoy what the city can offer... but long term I am getting the fuck out of here. To where, I don't know yet.

>>131067088
For now

Detroit was once called be Paris of the Midwest by one Frank Sinatra.

>>131069023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgVP3H122nw

>>131069050
CO WA and OR are fine for now. until the Democrats invite all their illegal friends into those states. If they don't, then the states will be mostly okay.

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>>131058407

Haha, the federal government is seriously considering extending bankruptcy protection to states because of this debacle.

I love being proven right all the time. One of the benefits of being an ancap.

>>131058407
come on over to michigan, its cool here.

>>131065889
Say it ain't so. I'm in Green Bay and we already get Shitload of Chiraq/Milwaukee rejects. Been here 4 years and bore witness to the decline brought on by nigger migration. Only plus out of it is they come here for easy pickings and run like usain bolt when shown a handgun. Not up for a fight. Must be why chi and m town chewed them up and spit them out. This city wouldn't have greyhound service if it weren't for the steady stream of chimpongo niggers coming in and going out.

>The actual cause of much of the state's financial problems originated in 2011 when the state, led by Gov. Pat Quinn (D), decided to hike the tax rate to address a looming pension shortfall as well as offset a $12 billion deficit to account for a $35 billion state-wide budget. Since then, the Democrat-led state failed to reform the pension plans. Illinois Policy, an independent organization that promotes freedom-driven public policy in the state, listed the following drivers for the pension crisis:

>60% of state pensioners retired in their 50's, many with full pension benefits.
>Over half of state pensioners will receive $1 million or more in pension benefits over the course of their retirements. Nearly 1 in 5 will receive over $2 million in benefits.
>Almost 60% of all current state pensioners can expect to spend 25 or more years collecting benefits, based on approximate actuarial life expectancies. Due to automatic, 3% compounded COLA benefits, those pensioners can expect to see their annual pension benefits double in size.
>The average career pensioner — retired after Jan. 1, 2013, with 30 years of service or more — receives $66,800 in annual pension benefits and will collect over $2 million in total benefits over the course of retirement.
>The average career pensioner will get back his or her employee contributions after just two years in retirement. In all, pensioners’ direct employee contributions will only equal 6% of what they will receive in benefits over the course of their retirements.
Why the hell couldn't they agree on a budget? Why didn't the tax hike add revenue?

>>131069049
If you are into crowds and fests there is something going on almost every weekend in Chicago so its good for that. If you want to see a real shit show go to the pride parade tomorrow. I have never been but i know there are a fuck ton of single chicks walking around dressed like strippers.

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>>131061918
Holy fuck, I don't think even California has it that bad.

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>>131069666

Tax rates have little to no effect on actual government revenue.

>>131068192
Well, it IS niggers being niggers, but these particular niggers are engaging in the act know as "necklacing"- the act of putting a tire filled with gasoline around a prisoner, and setting it alight, It was popularized by Winnie Mandela for use against actual south african blacks that opposed the communist importation of despicable niggers.

It's also sometimes used as punishment for minor infractions.

>>131070031
>Winnie Mandela
Why am I not surprised.

>>131059707
>What's the matter with Kansas?
nothing that I am aware of

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>>131069666
>>131069977
Not only that, but it's squandered and used to line the pockets of Chicago cronies.

>>131068299
No i need an asian friend, what area?

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>>131062682
Actually, federal hires fell during Obama's time in the white house.

Obama can't be credited for the job growth anyways, considering everything was going to stabilize anyways when the recession ended. If anything, Obama should be blasted for merely returning employment to pre-recession levels instead of improving it.

>>131069977
I used the word revenue wrong, I think. I thought the higher taxes were supposed to keep this from happening, why wouldn't it work?
>>131070304
>line the pockets of Chicago cronies
I only hear how corrupt Chicago government can be, but never paid much attention.

>>131061293
Just blow the bridges. The Mississippi ain't a joke.

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>>131063552
>chicago is safer than LA

At least you can walk around East LA during the daytime without fear of getting mugged. The beaners might be violent gangbangers, but they keep the niggers in check and generally don't leave South/East LA.

>>131064804
pretty much this. the exception would e the cubans and not even the new ones. The old ones are still "viva cuba" case in point there is a neighbor who flies a cuban flag and a us flag. even has a navy flag since he did time in the navy.

>>131064209
depends. some of them do, the farther south you go the house are bigger or may have more land around them.

>>131064496
fuck man that is insane

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>>131062617
texas is better

>>131070588
My grandparents always said it was better run under the mob.

>>131066202
this

>>131064877
The governor has to work with the House and the Senate. Just like the US President.
The problem is both the Illinois House and the Illinois Senate are Democratic.

>>131071069
Don't have people coming to my state you fucking cunt.
Unless it's conservatives.

>>131071128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB6h9R0I-aM

the problem is bills can't even be heard in congress without permission from Mike Madigan and all of the people he controls via campaign contributions he siphons from taxpayer money via state jobs handed out to cronies.

they pay madigan back a percentage of their pay and they have to promote madigan and he uses that cash to promote the other democrats

when you hear "state pensions" again, think of this fucking kike rat Mike Madigan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V2sBURgUBI

Republicans ruined Kansas.

Both parties fucking suck. Before this election both are hated, now this place is half GOP shills.

>>131064042

Looks as big as west palm florida and thats squeaky clean compared to chicago

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>>131071728
>before this election both are hated

Lies, Democrats have been kikes on here since 2011 at least.

>>131058407

Elections have consequences. You retards brought this on yourselves.

I drove through Chicago once. It was like watching a youtube video of traffic in a third world country.

Absolutely horrifying.

>>131059472

No the city isnt dying its just that the people running the state are retarded.

>>131059610
How can you hate corn so much?

>>131062682

The job growth was down to stabilization from the dip and fracking put him over the top. We grew out of that hole slow as hell also. It wasnt so much recovery as we filled the hole in slowly through natural growth.

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>>131058407
You're not just ruining your state, you're ruining all your neighbors.

>>131058407
You dumbdicks always thought you were hot shit,looking down your noses at your neighbors here in Indiana...

Our govenor just announced expansions in the state for PreK funding, while still fixing infrastructure/road maintenance, and still having money to burn with our state having one of the highest credit ratings.

Feels good man

>>131072391
the people running the state are corrupt.

ftfy

Man, I'm living up here in Dupage county. Mid 20's, have enough to make a down payment on my first house.
Found one I really like. Property taxes 6.4k a year.
fuck that.
:(

>>131065300
>>131064423

Is it weird that they are legislating like blacks can only succeed when they are mixed into white communities in small doses? They keep saying that these black neighborhoods are all far from the jobs.

Weird how its always that way. There is never any built up economies or social networks near these communities.

I wonder what it looks like through the eyes of a liberal.

>>131073420
Thats actually not terrible. I just looked at new construction in Pingree Grove (Kane) yesterday after work and a 4bd, 3 bath, 2.5k sq/ft brand new home is $8200/yr tax bill.

>>131070574
I'm in Lakeview my dude, near Buena Park... where do ya wanna meet up?

Cause I need new friends

>>131058407
It isn't Democrats, it is blacks.

>>131058407
such a pretty state too.
I drove threw there once in my cross country travels and ended up have a conversation with some people at this gas station in a small town right off the highway.
Struck me as very american, in a friendly, down to earth, accepting neighborly kind of way. Also struck me as very poor

>>131074143
It's funny how white poor rural people don't tend to rob and rape and murder you. I wonder why.

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>>131070576
>>131062682
>Obama should be blasted for merely returning employment to pre-recession levels instead of improving it.

Fuck that made me think, unironically. People praise him for "fixing" the recession that happened under him. It's like the economy slid back to mediocrity, and Chicago is just cool with it. It's literally too big to sustain itself, and it's killed the rest of the state. If the economy is reletively unchanged compared to 2008, no wonder people leave without a second thought :(

Don't miss Illinois, but my family is still there.

>>131070576
>http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/9/federal-workers-hit-record-number-but-growth-slows/
*deep breath* wrong

>>131061817

LOL

Keep deluding yourself. There's a reason why no one chooses to vacation/live in Oklahoma.

>>131072667
I live in Iowa City and it's scary how much this is true. We've gone from an idyllic white midwestern University town to a mini Chicago. Murder rates have skyrocketed, nice neighborhoods have turned into ghettos, schools are turning to shit, but hey, we had three new fried chicken restaurants (Popeye's, Harold's Chicken and, I kid you not, "SugaPeach Chicken & Fish Fry") open up in the past year, so we're getting that cultural diversity our liberal city council so desperately wanted.

>>131074363
>>131074143
>>131074363
i talked to one guy whose majoy source of income was hunting for ginseng, but he wasn't sure how much longer he could do it, because the democrats passed a law that requires you to get a permit to take it out of the woods and put a cap on how much you could take. It was actually a little maddening to hear about it

>>131074581

>citing washingtontimes

>>131074143
Way back in the, I wanna say 60s or 70s, the Illinois tourist board came up with a new slogan to try and inspire Chicago residents to vacation to other parts of the state instead of going out of state to other major cities, keep the tourist bucks in the state.

"Just outside Chicago, there's a place called Illinois."

The irony is that this slogan which was meant to inspire Chicago residents to be MORE connected to the rest of the state is now used to describe how politically, socially, and economically isolated Chicago has become from the entire state. So much so that people driving through Southern Illinois could easily be forgiven for thinking they were in Iowa or Indiana.

>>131058776
I never saw this thread until it had 250 bumps because T_D faggots can't stop replying to threads about Laci Green and Philando Castile
>heheh I'm gonna show him how he's wrong
This board has totally gone to shit since the flags

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>>131058407
The cause is so fucking obvious

Quick rundown

>niggers are bused in from the south to live in Chicago
>crime rate skyrockets
>whites start moving out
>property value goes into free fall
>more whites start to move out in masses
>niggers don't work and only consume with government money
>city and state losing majority of tax payers
>city and state go bankrupt

>>131074878
>Argument from Ignorance - the fallacy
>Liberals hiding behind fake flags
WEWLAD

>>131062527
It can if you cut taxes faster then the economic growth, which only idiots like brownback in Kansas do.

>>131063470
Gun laws here have nothing to do with anything. All the gun violence happens on the south and west sides where the gangs are. And the big reason for this is because the CPD keeps locking up gang leaders which leads to gang chimp outs caused by power vacuums. Chicago just happens to outperform its size a bit in murders. It's only like 12 overall in murders or violent crime I forget. I'm pro gun rights. We also have concealed carry with relatively reasonable red tape involved.

>>131058776
Wow, actual intelligent discussions start and OP has next to nothing to say. Retard faggot

>>131069782
Pride is insanity and I can't think of another annual shit show than that. Missed the Cubs winning.

Only went to Chicago pride last year and the amount of people is unbelievable. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a truck of peace there tomorrow.

>>131058407
I grew up in Evanston, nothing but rich white families there. My dad's an orthopod and all our neighbors were of equal paying professions. Literally only went into Chicago three times by the time I left for college despite living in such proximity. Illinois is a shithole cause of nigger infested urban areas like Chicago. And then all the lefty hipsters move there after graduating from UoC or northwestern.

Just another great American state ruined by the Democrats and the niggers they pander to. I live in upstate NY right now and 80% of my neighbors are repubs but NYC and Long Island just fuck everyone else over. Fucking niggers.

my favorite article that I have read on the subject:
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170622/ISSUE07/170629937/illinois-to-wall-street-journal-drop-dead

>>131058407
Democrats shitboat every state they run just look at seattle. They raised minimum to 15 dollars so now small businesses dont hire and theres more homeless there than the whole state combined. Dont get me started on rapes at the beach and the police brutality.

>>131077706
Evanston is like a whole other world compared to the south side where I grew up... visited that town for the first time recently and was blown away by how nice it was.

I live in the third world by comparison.

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>>131062617
Chicagofag here.

This is the safe zone he's talking about, the only majority white area. Everywhere else, it's nothing but spics and nigs. Literally more than 4/5ths of the city is nonwhite. Keep this in mind when some Chicagoanon is telling you "it's not THAT bad, it's just a couple bad neighborhoods!"

>>131065516
>Orlando
>a city

Kek

>>131058407
You are literaly the biggest economy in the world how is it possible for one of your states to go bankrupt?

>>131065819
>Democrats have been running the state since 2002
>In a last ditch effort every single person outside of Cook County (Chicago) votes in a Republican
>The state is broke from fifteen years of Democrat policies
Rauner is the bucket brigade but Chicago has already burned down

Illinois is a corrupt, nigger infested shithole.
Fuck this awful state.

Piss on the heads of democrats an niggers.
They cannot help themselves.
They ruin everything they fucking touch.

>>131061250
aaaannnddd they're bankrupt
you dumb motherfucker

>>131065104
>Four 3x homicides

Am I seeing that right?

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crtl + f

>niggers 1 of 38
>blacks 1 of 3

fuck off you racist pigs

>>131064042
>Logan square

>>131058407
Bump

>>131082101
>smorgasbord of evidence that the majority of nigs are inferior to the average white
>nogs literally destroying the country with their rape, assault, gimmedats, dinduing, and nigger culture

Why wouldn't we be racist.

>>131071270
Just moved to Austin.
High power level.
Converted many people by force feeding them redpills.

>>131083561
For a moment, I become interested: a flicker of hope at interesting discourse. See, I find the discussion of different opinions wildly interesting as a means of refining and uncovering truth, ONLY however to the point that people actually response to things I have said

>>131084575
Niggers ruin everything. And they're too stupid to realize they are the problem, and if they did figure out they're the problem their sociopathy and egotism won't allow the to admit it. They're like a virus.

>>131065306
This is definitely one of the issues, and a major one, especially with public sector unions. Chicago teachers are some of the highest paid in the country, and they still get pissy when their contract talks come around, constantly, and obviously, looking at the numbers, they're some of the worst teachers in the country as well.

I've got no problem with the concept of unions, and I definitely think they can have an important place in the economy, but it's way overblown in Chicago. I was on a job site one time where some guys with me had to straighten union paperwork out with an "onsite union representative" (yes, that was actually his job title) for 3 hours when we literally would've been in and out in 20 minutes.

>>131085103
More like a cancer since they seem to spread

>>131065306
I'm from Decatur too, West End born and raised.

>>131063552
>Chicago
>Safer than Tampa fucking Florida

Holy shit this is top quality bait

>>131085508
>union rep
>3 hours
Now he gets paid for an 8 hour shift minimum.

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>every election cycle
>Rahm says we need to focus on the schools
>Gib more money to the schools
>Schools schools schools schools
>The day after the election
>Yeah imma close half the schools and cut their budget

Yet they keep on voting for him

>>131088753
If Trump actually goes forward with a 3500 voucher program, he will get credit for fixing our schools.

>>131076501
>Pride is insanity and I can't think of another annual shit show than that.

I always heard good things about the Leatherman festival.

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>>131061804

We are the most corrupt

>>131058776
This is like a week old you dumb nig.

>>131058407
Bump

/cpd/ talked about it a few weeks ago actually.

>>131060243
Good point

>>131060390
8500 is for a home valued at around 350-400K
and on the low side
a 350-400K house in DuPage taxes will be 10-15K

>>131058407
You should join the /cpd/ Robert threads and check your fucking keys, faggot

>>131062348
All niggers spics and Jew except for The governor
makes you think huh?

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>>131090864
You check yo keys faggot

Also I haven't been in a /cpd/ in a while, did Robert ever stop male black?

shouldnt have given fucking handouts to women and their niglets

>>131058407
I love it when the cucks make this face

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>>131088753
>liberals

>>131080971
Democrats.

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>>131088288
>democrat states
>both states with high human trafficking

>>131069666
Basically, everything Greece has been accused of by Americans, Illinois actually did. Amusing.

>>131060009
Tornados destroy everything...

>>131094494
And who votes for the Democrats

>>131074990
>Brockpuppet in charge of knowing custom flags aren't new
The board only goes to shit during Brockpuppet peak hours. Stop outing yourself with your "le TilDe xD" nonsense. Most of your coworkers have already dropped that play.

>>131058776
>I really want this thread to educate some intelligent discourse
>I know, I'll just get analapocalypsed and mock all potential participants! That's sure to get some of my coworkers and 16 year-olds to join in!
Good thread, but at this point, you just sound like a Brockpuppet that's enraged nobody's falling for your slide thread. Not saying you ARE, but you get my point.

>>131064694
The teenager.

>>131059707
The sweaty Brockpuppet.

>>131058776
In other news, the sky is blue. Fuck off you whiny little faggot. I live in CA, but thanks for letting me know democrats suck, retard. I never would have known.

I've seen a lot of these lately. OP makes a thread and stipulates that if you don't respond you're a rural/suburban retard. Then he posts again once no one responds and further antagonizes anyone who might see it his post. BOOM! Replies. Must be the new shill tactic.

>>131058407
Bump

>>131061423
>Corruption on both sides
>Democrat majority in everything
Umm, no, Brocksweety, that's not how that works

>>131096257
>educate
**educe

>>131058407
The Dems had supermajorities for a few years now in the House and Senate and can pass anything they want, but are tanking the state anyway, the idea being to blame Rauner, Comrade Madigan has absolute power and will be here long after Rauner is gone, and the (((media))) continues to run interference for him

>>131080646
chicago ridge has been overrun by Palestinians, funny how they're classified as "white"

>>131096770
you guys need to start trying to win hispanic and asian votes, i hope trump can get the ball rolling but if you get hispanic and asian voters back on the republican platform then you could have a republican mayor in chicago not to long from now.

blacks may be unfortunately a lost cause but black men voted for trump like 13%, only 9% voted Romney in 2012 so we are starting to win minorities better

>>131058407
>Stock market has 8 year boom
>Illinois goes broke anyway
>Cops and Fire Fighters don't get their pensions
>Revolt

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>>131097518
>start trying to win hispanic and asian votes
you're a funny man anon

>>131097816
man we have to try though, otherwise illinois would stay blue

we need to get it where chicago becomes more like phoenix where it is more of a moderate city than heavily liberal

blacks may be a lost cause for a long time (i still think we can get black guys over the long run), but asians are natural conservatives and hispanics prefer working hard than receiving taxpayer funds