If the Amish can take care of their community without government

>>131006847
Because the Amish teach their young to be self-reliant.

>>131006847
The Amish are a great counterexample to a lot of lefty talking points desu

>muh healthcare
>muh free money
>muh college
>muh abortions
etc.

They have almost no obesity, cancer, and autism in their society. No government, self reliance, and God makes you a strong person.

>>131007332
Also they have a high gun ownership rate and an almost nonexistent murder rate

City retards have no sense of community or even independence, which is why they want some state to do everything.

>>131007332
Oh, and don't forget:
>literally no blacks

>>131006847
they are jew free

>>131007457
I know Mennonites own guns, but do traditional/hardcore Amish have a high gun ownership rate?

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>>131007200
>Where you and I are, perched on the cusp of the 2lst century, Lincoln's independent social reality seems a daydream, yet we need some way to explain the baffling example of the Mondragon Cooperative in the Basque Region of Spain where every one of 120,000 families is indeed an independent producer, which has existed through depressions and recessions for 70 years without a single year of negative growth. And we have to explain away 150,000 Old Order Amish who enjoy nearly universal proprietorship in farms and small enterprises. For both these groups, one American, one Spanish, it is as if giant socialistic governments, giant international corporations and colossal hospitals, social work establishments, colleges and institutional schools have been irrelevant for the entire 20th century. It suggests a third way - which I confess has loomed larger and larger in my own thinking for quite some time now.

>Amish prosperity, strong family, strong faith, strong community, is something I'll speak of in more detail in a little while, but in thinking of it - in contrast to a mudsill society - we need to remember the good things weren't handed to them, but achieved in the face of daunting odds, often against the active enmity of the state and its agencies which have long sought to de-Amish the Amish. The Amish survived and even prevailed against odds. Doesn't that put a base of credibility under Lincoln's or Brownson's assertion that we once operated under a realistic national goal of independence for all. I mean if the Amish have pulled it off when such an aim contradicted the hidden national agenda, surely the rest of us were doing it when it accorded with our national mission.

http://www.altruists.org/static/files/Mudsill%20Theory,%20The%20Lancaster%20Amish%20&%20Jaime%20Escalante%20(John%20Taylor%20Gatto).htm

You are completely right, however there is another issue here the right misses.

>>131006847
Because the Amish benefit from white privilege.

The Amish can never be anything more that small farm communities though. Their luddite ways hold them back from achieving greatness, and the only reason they haven't been conquered and destroyed is because they have Uncle Sam protecting them.

>>131007617
>Jew free
>teach old school traditional Christianity
>Christianity is just Judaism with a book about the son of God added

>>131007892
>talking about something he doesnt know
every time

>>131007702
Haven't seen any numbers but their church does not have any restrictions so its probably in line with other rural communities

http://amishamerica.com/do-amish-use-guns/

>>131006847
As an Amlet, I agree. Life's pretty based. I am posting this from a clay oven.

>>131007963
Go ahead and explain then turbo autist, or will the Jews manipulate your mind and confuse your message.

Hahaha

>>131007846
>the only reason they haven't been conquered and destroyed is because they have Uncle Sam protecting them.

Protecting them from Canadians?

>>131007892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHR0tsnuUhE
>>131007846
>The Amish can never be anything more that small farm communities though. Their luddite ways hold them back from achieving greatness
Well then it should be even easier for non Amish people to take care of their own
>the only reason they haven't been conquered and destroyed is because they have Uncle Sam protecting them.
Which they pay taxes for
Also the Feds are the greatest threat to your liberty not they protector of it

Do they register their marriages? If no would they count as single-mothers and take a benefits from gov? Turbo-Jews from Brooklyn do so I guess.

Their girls all use pantyhose, skirts and they're submissive.

Literally the perfect society.

>>131007846
>they haven't been conquered and destroyed is because they have Uncle Sam protecting them

I don't know dude, "backwards" mountain people have given significantly larger and better equipped armies lots of problems in the past.

I mean the Amish might not have a geographical advantage in the middle of Pennsylvania but the Appalachians aren't too far away

>>131008256
Uncle Sam is protecting Canada too.

>>131008142
you have information everywhere, your statement was a sign you dont know shit and people shouldn't take your opinion seriously

>>131008324
>When arguing the 1972 Supreme Court case that allowed the Amish to leave school after eighth grade, the lawyer William Ball built his argument with testimony from a county welfare agent, a sheriff and a school administrator, asking questions like, “Are any Amish on welfare?” No. “Are any Amish breaking the law?” No. “Are any Amish a problem in school?” No. The point the attorney was making is that we need to assess the success of Amish education from a more holistic vantage point.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/06/21/we-left-upper-class-suburbia-to-become-amish-and-learned-you-can-be-both-socialist-and-capitalist/

how are they taking care of their community?

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>>131007200
The issue here is that the government via laws and propaganda has given the medical schools a monopoly. Right now the leading cause of death for Americans under 50 is opiates. Doctors are given special rights and protections by the state and they prevent other professions from healing the diseases the doctors find profitable to treat.

THe belief in the authority of the doctors makes people feel helpless when the doctors fail.

>A radical monopoly goes deeper than that of any one corporation or any one government. It can take many forms. When cities are built around vehicles, they devalue human feet; when schools pre-empt learning, they devalue the autodidact; when hospitals draft all those who are in critical condition, they impose on society a new form of dying. Ordinary monopolies corner the market;9 radical monopolies disable people from doing or making things on their own.10 The commercial monopoly restricts the flow of commodities; the more insidious social monopoly paralyzes the output of nonmarketable use-values.11 Radical monopolies impinge still further on freedom and independence. They impose a society-wide substitution of commodities for use-values by reshaping the milieu and by "appropriating" those of its general characteristics which have enabled people so far to cope on their own. Intensive education turns autodidacts into unemployables, intensive agriculture destroys the subsistence farmer, and the deployment of police undermines the community's self-control. The malignant spread of medicine has comparable results: it turns mutual care and self-medication into misdemeanors or felonies. Just as clinical iatrogenesis becomes medically incurable when it reaches a critical intensity and then can be reversed only by a decline of the enterprise, so can social iatrogenesis be reversed only by political action that retrenches professional dominance.

http://soilandhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/0303critic/030313illich/Frame.Illich.Ch2.html

>>131008479
Remember to archive
https://archive.is/PwcE9

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>>131006847
...

they never have to use the emergency room?

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>Lets use cultists as the example for how the state should be run

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>>131006847
>tfw you will never raise a barn for a neighbor and feel that community love

I've talked to just one of my neighbors maybe 2 times since I moved here like 5 years ago

>>131006847
sauce!!!

>>131008591
thye still send you a bill
>>131008609
everyone used to do the same before the welfare state

>>131007726
>"Children," he said, "were far better off educated by the general pursuits, habits and moral tone of the community"
Welp. That's obsolete.

>>131008272
>one mans interpretation of a ~1700yr old book in a ~2000yr series is absolute
>implying Christians are any better than Jews
>implying any religion is actually trustworthy

>>131006847
Yeah but if we successfully followed the Amish way we wouldn't have 4chan to talk about how successful we'd been

>>131008426
>HURR your wrong
Prove it
>HURR you have to prove your right

Wow typical Jew/Christ/Allah fag.

Can Amish read manga?

>>131009168
>>one mans interpretation of a ~1700yr old book in a ~2000yr series is absolute
The bible is pretty clear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncaorJJM2MI
>>131009228
you dont have to follow them on everything
just on mutual aid vs the welfare state

Amish fucking suck, I live near Berne Indiana, and they are obnoxious. They don't bathe, they dont pay taxes, and their horses shit all over the road (for which they also don't pay taxes)
They make fuckloads of money too, but very little of it gets taxed.

>>131007426
how could they not have autism? There woman are popping out babies into their late thirties, early forties, they must be swimming in downies.

They don't need dental, they just rip out the teeth, in many cases for kids already, and replace them with cheap online bought dentures from china.

>>131006847
Answer:
Niggers

>>131007702
They're both Anabaptist and strict pacifists. If they have guns it is because of individual desire and not any community tradition. Most of the guns will be shotguns or rifles used for hunting or killing livestock.

Difference between Mennonite and Amish is technology use. Mennonite use electricity and drive cars, but they are plainly dressed still. I live in and interact with these communities everyday. I used to drive Amish around to work sites. They're pretty good carpenters. Far better than under the table mexicans.

>>131009344
it's proven, that's what i'm saying, if you want to see the truth or not that's your problem

>>131009482
>they dont pay taxes,
citation needed
>, and their horses shit all over the road
they dont need paved roads
>They make fuckloads of money too, but very little of it gets taxed.
I thought they dont pay any taxes
Also why are you so obsessed with the government getting more shekels
Do they do anything good with it now?

>>131007563
10./10 dis

whjere u live?

>>131009482
I thought they did pay taxes at least

>>131007726
He misses the part about the amish being fucking retarded, most of the boys have a sixth grade education. They keep them stupid so that they can maximize there labor when young, and too eliminate any chance of them leaving the amish for work in the "english" world. The amish system is not a viable real world education system, unless we want to regress to a purely agrarian society and get wiped out by the next streen of super influenza.

>>131009448
>bible is pretty clear
So I guess the walking on water, virgin birth, surviving digestion in a whale, curing at the time incurable diseases, turning water to wine, making 400 loaves from one, rising 3 days after death, and so forth are pretty clear then.

Face it. It is part of a 2000 year old book series that was written by goat herders that recorded everything that happened within 10 miles of their home as the entirety of the world.

>>131007810
The Amish will not mix with Jews or blacks under any circumstance. That Jew who just got arrested in PA for impregnating the teenager who was traded to him by the Amish family. He had a business relationship with the Amish family prior to the exchange of the daughters, which got the family excommunicated from the community b/c he was Jewish. They do not trust Jews under any circumstance b/c they know the real history of Jews in Europe. They haven't been conditioned to place Jews on the pedestal.

>>131007726
The old right didn't miss it, but the new right (liberalism in slower motion) never addresses it for (((obvious reasons))).

Confederated systems in the hands of good people are always more resilient than centralized systems in those same hands, but they're inferior systems for the exploitation of the middle by the high and the low acting in concert.

The predatory behavior of the high/low coalition is the reason that such confederations are either small enough to be largely ignored or large enough to be targeted and destroyed. Preventing the latter is the great struggle of the post-liberal western man.

As the high's birthrates plummet and the lows spiral out of control, it will be up to the stalwart middle to carve out these third-position enclaves and economies in the resulting fallout and engineer them such that a new high/low doesn't immediately rebound to overtake them once more.

The common denominator in each case is a like-minded tribe. New tribes are being born as we speak. Hopefully some of them are of sufficiently capable European stock.

>>131008142

Most US jews are basically atheists and lean left.


Most us christians are the opposite.\


orthodox are obviously not like reformed but are a small minority in the west it seems

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>>131007571

>tfw blacks are the new Germans

>tfw the German race will only live on through pacifist Amish....

We will never get another Hitler

>>131009898
It is ancient wisdom collected over thousands of years of trial and error. It doesn't matter what it was called along the way. Stop reading the book literally and realize it is like fairy tales. Wisdom wrapped in entertaining stories. Disregard it at your own peril.

>>131009898
>So I guess the walking on water, virgin birth, surviving digestion in a whale, curing at the time incurable diseases, turning water to wine, making 400 loaves from one, rising 3 days after death, and so forth are pretty clear then.
yes

>Face it. It is part of a 2000 year old book series that was written by goat herders that recorded everything that happened within 10 miles of their home as the entirety of the world.
Who just by chance predicted satanic "Jews" would be the ones destroying modern society

>>131009898
>he thinks goat herders knew how to write and read

>>131006847
Amish run Parvo filled puppy mills and blatantly rip off the non Amish with their muh woodworking.

>>131009623
>its proven

>doesn't proved evidence
>doesn't point out what was even wrong
>no sources

Wanna keep denying you just wanna pander to religious dogma with no grasp of its meaning.

>>131009482
Did you ever think they might not care to use the paved roads but its the only way these days of getting from place to place?

>>131009867
But at the end of the day, thay are happy and don't need us.

>>131006847
Same life expectancy as the average US citizen too. This is with little reliance on modern medicine.

>>131009605
My buddy had a house built by a crew with a bunch of Amish on it. They charged very little and did great work from what I understand. I'm looking into it when I decide to own my own place.

>>131007702
Amish own guns and hunt, kill predators harassing their stock, etc. They just don't shoot people because they're pacifists.

>>131010160
Puppy mills is correct, but they're not overcharging customers b/c of non-amish status. They're doing business, offering their handiwork for a price and you can walk away if you want.

What is the difference if Tommy Hilfiger uses the brand to earn more profit or the Amish using their reputation. BTW find handmade furniture in the US. The Amish isn't charging anymore than anyone else.

>>131010144
I understand the book is just one giant allegory. I'm calling out retards who are taking the words of a 2000 year old book literally because a few lines say "fuck Jews k?"

>>131006847
What? An ethno-religious-homogenous group can take care of their own?!!?!?


Remove the niggers and the spics and the pakis and we'll have our way.

>>131010147
If you literally believe the book word for word, sorry to say kiddo, but you deserve to be killed by these "super evil sneaky jooz".

>>131006847
Because they have healthy diets and levels of physical activity. Universal healthcare will never ever work with the current state of diet/exercise in the majority of the US

>>131010237
just google what you want to discuss, read what you get and we talk about it?

>>131010653
>supporting the jews
man

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>>131009784
>He misses the part about the amish being fucking retarded,
>most of the boys have a sixth grade education.
Does not follow. Drop outs like Bill Gates etc are not stupid.

They are happy, successful, wealthy, healthy and their communities are growing and thriving. They are doing so well precisely because they won't allow government to crush their children's spirit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEWPbTad_Q

>Our form of compulsory schooling is an invention of the state of Massachusetts around 1850. It was resisted - sometimes with guns - by an estimated eighty per cent of the Massachusetts population, the last outpost in Barnstable on Cape Cod not surrendering its children until the 1880's when the area was seized by militia and children marched to school under guard.

>Now here is a curious idea to ponder. Senator Ted Kennedy's office released a paper not too long ago claiming that prior to compulsory education the state literacy rate was 98% and after it the figure never again reached above 91% where it stands in 1990. I hope that interests you.

http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/john_gatto.html

>>131010653
prove the bible is not true

>>131006847

they dont, as soon as they get sick they go to a regular hospital

>>131010396
They can build you a house without a single nail and it will hold together longer than some of these modern houses using screws and nails.

>>131010499
This.

The only time I have seen "overpriced" Amish furniture was when some douche bought the patio/porch rockers and then sold them from his home.

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Would you /pol/?

>>131009710
>they dont pay taxes,
>citation needed
They don't pay taxes for the roads I should say. They work a lot of construction jobs in the area, building pretty good barns specifically, but go out of there way to divy up the payment to avoid taxes in such a way that no normal company could compete with them. They have modern equipment and vehicles but hold them in jewy corporations to avoid taxes, and then hire illegal mexicans to drive them. they don't pay social security, or the gas taxes that fund our roads (other than there construction vehicles which aren't used much) They are in general a net drain on the economy, if they where replaced with normal farmers the local economies would be better off.
>they dont need paved roads
lol, our roads is all they drive on. They happily plug along at seven miles an hour forming car lines behind them on 2 lane highways. There's shit all over the place, which often gets sprayed onto your car if you're not careful.
>Also why are you so obsessed with the government getting more shekels
How would you like to have a large religious community in your area who believe you are going to hell and treat you like it in public, who take more out of the local economy than they put in, and literally cover the highways in shit?
They also will send boats of boys out on the local lakes in the fall to catch as much fish as they can, regardless of size limits because the DNR can't be bothered.

>>131009482
They do pay taxes. Only exception is social security tax, which they can't collect from.

>>131010653
Newsflash, Jews can be far more zealous and naive when it comes to their own religion. Thousands if not millions of Jews take the words in their holy book seriously about them being above everyone else and we're just basically cattle.

>>131007892
Cucktianity is not Judaism because its moral while Judaism is evil.

>>131006847
they are mooching off the US army and the police and fire depts and ALL the judeo fascist religious cults are baby crazy because they live off welfare gibsmedats

>>131010790
>most of the boys have a sixth grade education.
>Does not follow. Drop outs like Bill Gates etc are not stupid.
>relies on a unicorn to make his point
They aren't dropping out to build computers in their home garages, they drop out because they are cheap labor for the farm and they have no use for any sort of advanced education because the only book they will ever read is the bible. These aren't intelligent people, the most complicated thing they will do in there entire lives is build a barn, and that all relies on 1 guy in charge, the rest are just dumb laborers.

>>131010653
there is a consistent theme throughout the whole book which is pretty impressive considering it has over 40 authors and covers a span of nearly 4000 years.
once the main narrative settles in, youll find the miracles not only possible but incredibly easy to believe. lsd has already proven the human mind has the capacity for visions

Isn't abuse pretty rife in those communities though? I wouldn't call it a perfect society if you got alot of bad shit going on behind doors.

>>131009867
>The amish system is not a viable real world education system, unless we want to regress to a purely agrarian society and get wiped out by the next streen of super influenza.
I'm going to address this now.

Chomsky, once the leading academic in linguistic did not benefit from public education. His ideas were great advancements and used widely in thinks like AI. Nassim Taleb, brilliant self made multimillionare and a thinker was never interested in school. Steve Jobs dropped out, and the only course he talked about later was calligraphy. Einstein was not exceptional student, Tesla and Edison were mostly self taught.

>Thomas Edison was described by educators as “addled,” and spent only a few months in a formal classroom before being taken out of school and educated by his mother.

The modern world has been disproportionately built by people who either did not go to school or were not very good at it.

>>131009605
highly skilled craftsmen. i've seen their stuff and it's cool.

>>131011526
>They aren't dropping out to build computers in their home garages, they drop out because they are cheap labor for the farm and they have no use for any sort of advanced education because the only book they will ever read is the bible. These aren't intelligent people, the most complicated thing they will do in there entire lives is build a barn, and that all relies on 1 guy in charge, the rest are just dumb laborers.
As opposed to the burger flippers with Masters in Gender Studies? Most people going to unis are not exactly brilliant.

>>131007892
>flag
>cuckistani

>>131007426
They dont have any genetic diversity either. Look at the photo.

>>131008338
But do they succ benis

>>131010995
Yes yes, 6 pints, no, no

>>131011526
You do not know what you are talking about. Lets see you run a 200 acre farm profitably without a drop of gasoline.

>>131010793
Ok.
>virgin birth
An extremely rare occurrence in some species requiring genetic mutation, but as of yet has been found to be impossible in human beings.
>walk on water
Surface tension of water is not strong enough to hold an averge weight male, let's say for the time period being 165lbs, from submerging.
>healing incurable disease and ailments
Without modern medicine and surgery methods, restoring lost function of limbs and organs like the eyes is impossible. Not until the last 60 or so years has the idea of ocular implants and donations even been possible without maiming and killing the patient.
>rising from the dead after 3 days
If your dead, your dead. Even with modern medicine it is not possible to resuscitate an individual who has had zero brain function for more than a few hours. If done soon enough post death an individual can be resuscitated, but will require complex machinery to maintain remaking brain function if any form of brain death has occurred.

You getting the picture yet.

>>131010252
that's retarded logic. I would rather not have to use the public roads as well, but I have too, so I pay for their use. If they didn't want to come into contact with roads or the "english" world they could do that, build there farms deeper in the country and avoid the towns. But they do the opposite, they go to fucking wal mart for fucks sake! They love to use our roads, and probably laugh everytime they see a car get shit on it, just like I laugh everytime I see one of their families get plastered by a semi on the highway.

No one who has to live with these fucks actually likes them, and here you all are jerking off on their amish beards despite never having encountered them in your life.

>>131011996
I attend farm auctions often seeing if I can grab any ag land on the cheap. The amish show up and pay cash. Literally millions of dollars in cash without a loan.

>>131012057
I live in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. The Amish around here are nice people.

>>131006847
tfw no qtpie amish gf to push my brown cock into

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>>131011996
Most famers can't do it even with gasoline, and they often hate their jobs. Of course, they can't think coherently thanks to 12+ years of public schooling destroying their minds.

>>131011539
Every religion has a consistent theme. Does that mean Christians are wrong and Ra is who we should worship?

>>131008081
>As an Amlet, I agree. Life's pretty based. I am posting this from a clay oven.
DUDE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA!

My wife used to work as a publisher/transcriber for a company that worked on a weekly publication for the Amish. At the time we lived near "Their" country. This publication was literally their version of 4chan. It was nothing but public posts talking about how certain villages are or what ever the local scribe was putting out there. There were some where they were bitching about how in their society the more plain and humble you are is IDENTICAL to how slutty and trashy you are in ours.....They would bitch about this woman's dress being more plain than hers in the stitching....

It was very educational for me, having grown up with them as common sights on the highways and cornerstores in the am. They are really based people, and I trust amish before any mennonite. Mennonites are the jews of the "Plain People". Around Mennonites, never relax.

>>131011833
Uni: 50% of graduates become retarded burger flippers (thats not anywhere near accurate, but just to be kind to your dumb argument)
Amish: 100% becomes retarded cow patty flippers.

Looks like the universities won this round.

>>131012516
Ra is sun worship. Egyptians looked up, burned their retinas and poof Ra punished them for looking at him.

Secular Amish here trying to get Amish to be a racialist nationalist group that stands up for our race. (grandparents all left the Amish, still consider our ethnic identity Amish)

AMA

>>131012516
>muh other religions
what other religions? what religions run the world? jews, Christians and muslims, stop kidding yourself

>>131012243
well maybe your are different. There are huge differences in them between regions, especially on what technologies they will use. All I know is the ones around here are fucking assholes.

>>131012708
Hindus.

>>131012057
Damn dude, show me on the doll where the Amish man touched you.

>>131012772
Christianity fanfic, they took what st Tomas told them and create their own

>>131012057
Fuck off. As an Amishman you are just being a dick. Amish will save the White race. Fuck off nigger.

>>131006847
Because they Amish are white. Imagine if there were no niggers and spics in this country, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

>>131006847
>comparing a tiny incestuous community with zero cultural difference to a fucking country
Jesus /pol/ get it together

>>131011833
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>>131012813
har har. Though I worked a summer as a wal mart photo tech and my female coworkers refused to go help the amish men find things because they where notorious for grabbing handfuls of ass.

>>131012587
>Uni: 50% of graduates become retarded burger flippers (thats not anywhere near accurate, but just to be kind to your dumb argument)
>Amish: 100% becomes retarded cow patty flippers.
Amish: 80% become happy, wealthy, and healthy family people
Unis: 50% become impovershed by student loans, never building proper lives, and having difficulty even having kids. 90% never are as wealth as the average amish

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@34 minutes based little Amish girl BTFOs dumb nigger cunt, great stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ihwzV_199A

>>131012024
>You're

t. illiterate.
How does it feel to be barely educated compared to an average priest in bumfuck nowhere?

>>131013061
Don't listen to him hes trying to poison you also >>131013011

Hilarious video, "AMISH EXPOSED" by some dumb anti amish fundamentalist christian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK35r3onPCg

>>131010499
I buy amish leather dog accessories, great stuff

>>131012944
what the fuck are you talking about? Your grandparents left a RELIGIOUS group, not an ethnic one. You are secular and not practicing the amish RELIGION, you aren't amish.

By your moronic logic I am a Pagan because my great great great grandpa prayed to a moon god before he converted and abandoned his old faith. That's fucking cringey

>>131012587
>comfortable living in specialized agriculture and vastly greater genetic success than the typical western community.

> a bad thing

>>131013543
IDIOT AMISH IS A RACE NOW
WE ARE AN ETHNIC GROUP NIGGER

http://takimag.com/article/race_of_the_amish_steve_sailer/

We are the BEST White ethnic group btw, by far.

>>131012516
not at all. but the fact that the bible covers such a large portion of history in such consistent fashion lends it credibility, compared to other religious books which consists of the writings of a single prophet or wiseman, or mythological deities whos actions were completely at the mercy of oracles.
but this is topic of human standards of credibility. the substance of the narrative itself, the observations of actually putting faith into action and putting God to the test provides you with supernatural understanding

>>131013061
How many amish do you know where cured a disease, invented a new technology, wrote a book, went into space? How many university graduates have done those things?

Amish are just Luddites, and they will be erased or forgotten by choosing to not compete.

>>131013279
Hahaha, put you Ass party flag on Madame Clinton. Ad hominem is your default argument isn't it.

>HURR DURRR I could argue his logic or...
>he misses typed your instead of you're once, he so dumb

Neck yourself

>>131013678
You are Amish? How are you using a computer?

>>131013872
its not ad hominem, its ad- level of education. You sound like you are 11

>>131013816
>Amish are just Luddites, and they will be erased or forgotten by choosing to not compete
I'm fighting to get the Amish to think of ourselves as a tribe OUTSIDE of the luddite system

>>131013984
NOT
ALL
AMISH
LIVE
THAT
WAY

Amish is an ethnic group, and sadly most of my brothers are stuck living with no technology and hyper-religious.

I just want to make us all nationalists. We will save the White race.

>>131013285
A opposed to your anecdotes?

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>>131013678
>Literally "we wuz a race and shieet"
wew lad.

>>131006847
>If the Amish can take care of their community without government health care then why can't everyone else?

The Amish don't pay taxes. They're filthy fucking rich.

>>131013984
he said he's using a clay pot

>>131009482
The police horses shit on the road too

>>131012024
>virgin birth
it's a simple edit, just implant a custom zygote at certain spatial coordinates and wait 9 months
>walk on water
disable local gravity and temporarily activate hover mode. real fucking simple
>healing incurable disease and ailments
simple copy and paste from an archived version of the person's body from back when they didn't have the ailment
>rising from the dead after 3 days
duplicate the archived body from 4 days ago and reattach the dormant consciousness to the new avatar
all this stuff is child's play to the operator of this particle simulator
go suck bill nye the shabbos goy or black science man's cock you literal human garbage

What are their infant mortality rates and life expectancy?

>>131013199
why can't muslims be like this?

>>131011603
>The modern world has been disproportionately built by people who either did not go to school or were not very good at it.

For every world-changing drop out that is lauded as proof that the education system is unnecessary, there are millions of scientists and engineers who did go through school, and whose contributions formed the world we know today more than the unicorns who managed without it.

>>131014158
Excuse me dickhead. Amish all have the same last names, we all have the same Swiss blood from the same original Amish men and women who came to America. We are an ethnic group like Irish people are an ethnic group.

We deserve respect. I'm sick of people considering Amishness fuddy duddy or backwards or quaint. Fuck that.

Have some respect. Amish are Aryan!

>>131014368
Muslims aren't White anyway why would you care? We need to save the White race. Amish are making lots of White babies who act like a cohesive tribe. Amish are brothers to one another.

>>131013689
Because the book is 4000 years old doesn't mean it took that long to write.

The majority of the New Testament took around 400yrs amongst its ~40 authors.

>kept the same narrative
>makes it automatically more credible

Not really how that works. It is "credible" because people have been raised since birth to parrot the text, just perpetuating the blind leading the blind metaphor.

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>>131014110
>I'm fighting to get the Amish to think of ourselves as a tribe OUTSIDE of the luddite system
>Amish is an ethnic group, and sadly most of my brothers are stuck living with no technology and hyper-religious.
>my brothers
oh my lord that was saddest kek i've ever had.

The Amish are the most successful anarchy in the US

The WN/Alt-R community could learn a lot from them; if only, ....

>>131014461
I, for one, think you are among the greatest of american ethnicities.

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>>131014461
>Amish are Aryan!

A well kept secret

With what they bank in puppy-mills, they could probably buy some hospitals outright. Wonder if they pay taxes from sales of all those puppies/kittens/whatever else?

>>131014516
How the hell are you laughing at obvious truth? I love my people and want to make them White nationalists. Are you some kind of lefty faggot?

>>131014604
Thank you sir, I appreciate it!

>>131014585
Agreed. We Amish know how to be a separate people and not conform to the fucking system.

Starts with an ordnung which means a list of rules and ideologies everyone will follow. That's the path forward for White nationalism.

>>131014776
I never said we are nords, we are central European folks, brownish hair with the occasional red popping up. Have some fucking respect.

>>131014037
>ad- level of education

So you don't know what Ad Hominem means as well as being so blindingly autistic that you use the same fallacy while denying using said fallacy to continue to ignore the content of the argument.

I present to you ladies and gentleman the pinnicale of burger thought process when incapable of looking beyond a single clerical error.

>>131014310
We matrix now.

>>131012024
Prove naturalism

>>131006847
The amish here use ours. Oops the entire population lives three years longer than you on average per capita. And spends two thirds less. Per capita. And cured ebola

>>131014516
I guess Germans and Dutch that join a very tight knit religious group are suddenly an entire new ethnic group now.

>>131006847
Amish people arent allowed to use hospitals. They can only have government hospitals which dont exist there. If they bought capitalist bowling insurance they are not special and amish anymore. All right wing arguments and examples fucking suck

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>>131014864
You are clearly on the spectrum. My ad hominem is not fallacious because you are incapable of grasping irony.

>>131009901
wait what

can you share this news article

>>131015239
We developed over centuries into an ethnic group. Amish look alike and we have the same ancestors, too. Our blood is Swiss and we are a people. A lot of people who don't live on a farm are Amish by blood. We deserve respect in that.

Calling us just some weird cult is pure BS, we are an ethnic group like Jews are an ethnic group.

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>muslims are primitive savages
>we should be more like the people who refuse to progress past the 1600s in every way possible, also have the weirdest hangups about women, and are literally all pacifists

>>131015329
>chinee
>trying to tell us what the amish ordnung does and does not allow

False bro

>>131007200
Why look at the whole picture? Muh strong and stable smell my balls reeee women are shit i hate fags. Anyways. Trump had a bad kill all the poor people day today so here come the myths and shills. Me monkey me stink and beat chest. Ayn rand never took social security fuck the golden rule we are animals. Survival of the monkiest. Niggers are monkeys not me

>>131007571
bullshit

blacks arent even given the CHANCE to join amish communities

this needs to change, but also shows how racist they are

we need to force them to except immigrants just like everyone else

immigration laws from the EU should take presidents over eveyrthing else

>>131015398
Could I live on an amish farm for a month if I worked all day?

I know very limited german (could communicate simply) but not switzdeutsch

>>131010653
lurk more

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>>131015465
>chinee
>trying to tell us what the amish ordnung does and does not allow

>>131015398
I never said it was a cult but it isn't a unique ethnicity. You're just a bunch of inbred Germans, Dutch, and Swiss who live on farms in a tight knit religious community. By your logic I might as well claim all white southerners are a new ethnicity because many of us share similar ancestors and culture and that means we're magically not Anglo/Scotch Irish anymore.

>>131014492
it didnt. there are two 400 year gaps in the old testament and the new testament didnt take nearly that long and had relatively few authors.

but im curious why you would think such evil people would engage in this level of deceit if it so often threatened their lives. most of the old testament prophets were hated by the jews, many of them killed. Jesus hung on a cross and all his disciples were martyred except for john who ended up in prison. the early church suffered severe persecution by the romans and were universally despised.
so exactly what profit would there have been to so many people to lie for something that was clearly against their social interests?

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>>131014861
You should do it then. Start the amish revolution! Burn down the horses, and rape the barns! Viva la amish revolucion!

This is all too stupid for me to argue about any further. It's like arguing for Brony independence, or a methodist space program, the absurdity of it is just too fucking much.

>>131015423
Muslims are degenerate goat fuckers that worship a false prophet pedofile

>>131015599
chinee=chinese

>>131009901
oh also I found this

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/140967

lmao

>>131015698
Thats one mistake down. Listen. I know what he meant. But im trying to say he's too stupid to type properly let alone admit he has no arguments so lies about my being foreign so he can "win" again

>>131015623
A genetic group that has existed for 300 yearis an ethnic group. Notice Anericans and Aussies are different from Bongs.

>>131013199
That nigger is annoying

>>131011936

You can have a great deal of genetic diversity without overt visual differences, you probably literal nigger.

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theres nothing wrong with not using technology

if someone wants to do that and feels it might tempt them to be ungodly people

people on computers dont get it because they have a different life their whole life

so that doesnt make it bad if theyre still happy

jealous retards you cant do half the shit they do

>>131015423
Don';t you ever post saber anywhere ever you don't fucking deserve it you piece of shit

>>131015423

>also have the weirdest hangups about women,

Spot the cuck

>>131006847
Amish have community while everyone else was divided and conquered

>>131007563
sense of community is sooooo important. as a millennial i had an incredibly difficult time understanding this growing up. it is impossible to have a sense of belonging with people of different races

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>>131006847
Amish porn is the best.

>>131015687
Yeah and basically you're idolizing people who are essentially the same, the only difference is one you can safely ignore because all they do is sell furniture and do fucked up shit to their own women and children because nobody will police their fucking neighborhoods.

>>131016020
The shame is yours, no one deserves her.

>>131015656
You do know that the Old Testament is the Torah right.

>>131016114
Capitalism, Atheism, Materialism, anti moralism, the value if money over honor and community destroyed all communities while amish are united.

>>131016166
>idolizing people who are essentially the same
but they are not
>>131016170
The problem with jews is not the Torah its the Talmud

>>131016170
here >>131007963

>>131016289
The Amish are immune to the Jew, they are pacifists and own themselves in their own community.

>>131015375
That is not the meaning of irony twit, you are attempting to use sarcasm. Irony is a word or phrase to convey or imply a point by using said word or phrase in a manner contraire to the actual or literal meaning of the aforementioned words.

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amish are based as fuck i really respect it

whats the point of advancing technology when atheism isnt real?

if you can manage to live without it,,, more power to you

humans lived thousands of years before industrial revolution

how can i say its a good thing that im on the computer when i use it to jerk off to porn and sin

>>131017139
Just cut off the computer and electricity after a certain time, like 8pm no more computer and read a book instead or paint a picture or just sit outside and enjoy the sights

>>131016483
>The Amish are immune to the Jew

jews literally convinced them to fly to israel

http://www.jpost.com/Travel/Around-Israel/Amish-delegation-expresses-remorse-to-Israel

>Group of 31 Amish people came to Israel to apologize to Jews for not previously recognizing the Jews as the chosen people.

YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

LOL

>>131017289
He's a nazi. He sees big noses and it makes his dick hard

>>131006847
Because they're okay with dying when it's their time to go.

Statistically, 60% of all medical expenses are incurred caring for people in the last year of life. It's obvious that their illness is terminal but they keep pouring money on the doctors to give them a few more months of miserable sickly life, and Medicare and insurance companies enable them in this waste of resources.

>>131015562
it's hard as fuck to join the Amish. It would even be hard for me even though my name and blood are 100% Amish.

If you worked your ass off and really dedicated yourself, you could, but you might be seen as weird to them

>>131015670
Amish are a strong race, we are rising. Just fuck off nigger.

>>131015423
>have the weirdest hangups about women
the fuck does this even mean? you some kind of faggot?

>>131013984
>if you're black how come you aren't in prison?

>>131015518
>Overdosed on the maple syrup
>non-sequitor spouting ensues

Someone get the rake.

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>>131009585
so simple, but not without merit