Why hasn't the government developed the technology to shut

We can shoot them down already.

Nice pasta m7+1

>>130919194
9/10 scientists have discovered 99% of inert atoms live in your scrotum, burger.

they already have this.
if an ICBM launch is detected america will immediately detonate nukes already in geostationary orbit over the atlantic, pacific and the north pole causing worldwide blackouts and stopping nukes in their tracks.

>>130919238
That seems pretty inefficient compared to stopping the fission reaction that occurs within the nukes just before they go off.

IT should be completely possible to stop the reaction before it occurs.

>>130919194
They're working on it for when the sun falls out of orbit.

>>130919486
Why would we bother with that. We've got lasers that can shoot down ICBM's. They've been public knowledge for a ~decade.

ITT- people who have no clue how atoms or nuclear weapons work.

>>130919620
You're government is pretty retarded then because that's not happening for a long time.

>>130919647
You know the old antinuke plan in the states was to sacrifice entire cities like LA

>>130919194
does nobody have the screenshot

>>130919194
Because that's not possible you retard

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>>130919238
>We can shoot them down already.
>>130919647
>lasers that can shoot down ICBM's
This is what Burgers actually believe

>>130919620
should have been first post

>shut down the atoms

fucking kill yourself you retard/sliding faggot

>>130919670
>said the redditor as he scrolled through the Wikipedia page on how nukes work

You don't know as much as you think you do retard.

>>130919575
Yes, separate the two or masses so that they do not reach critical mass. That's the point of shooting it down, maron.

>>130919194
N-Jammer Canceler isn't real

because nuclear bombs don't exist, so they don't worry about them, only us.

>>130919194
It's not as easy as it sounds. There's hundreds of atums in those things. You have to shut them all down at the same time. Miss even one and it goes kaboom.

>>130919831
>>lasers that can shoot down ICBM's
>This is what Burgers actually believe
We already have mining lasers. How is a laser that shoots down icbms hard to believe?

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>>130919194
maybe because thats not fucking possible
or maybe because they're all too busy pushing multiculturalism

>>130919897
Of course its not fucking real, because that is the thing that cancels the nuke jammer ya idiot.

>>130919948
>hundreds of atums
That's a ridiculous understatement.

>>130919928
>because nuclear bombs don't exist

That's a pretty stupid thing to believe, nuclear weapons are pretty much just pieces of sun contained in a box.

>>130919962
>american education

>>130919769
This.

Is /pol/ that fucking newfaggy that even 2016 posters are oldfags now?

Nukes never hurt anyone. I hate all this ain't nuke propaganda. Nukes are the weapon of peace.

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>>130919194
>shut down the atoms in a nuke
> shut down the atoms

A wild trump starts poastin' on /pol/

wat do?

>>130920101
Well refuted :^)

Nukes go of because the atoms inside them split up and release a lot of mass in a short time frame which release a massive amount of energy, if you were to stabilize the reaction from the outside somehow you'd shut down the reaction and atoms and stop the nuke.

Pretty simple concept to understand.

>>130919962
>Muh laser can track and shoot something going at Mach 15
Sure

If you stop atoms, the burgers will freeze

>>130920097
>nuclear weapons are pretty much just pieces of sun contained in a box

nuclear weapons are pretty much just pieces of anti-sun contained in a box
ftfy

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>>130919194
>shut down the atoms in a nuke
American education


Nice pasta, still gave me a laugh though

>>130919194
Kek, nuclear fission happens at the speed of light, good luck stopping that you retard. The best you could do is disabling the bombs before they explode by carefully disassembling them or by freezing them at extremely low temperatures.

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>>130919831
We don't have them... Yet.

http://archive.is/9YC6c

>>130919238

>We can shoot them down already.

You have to hit them first Cheeseburger

>>130920671
Black holes stop light rays
All you need to do is to produce a mini black hole in the center if explosion and it will suck in all the fusion

>>130920857
Yeah makes sense, now if only we knew what black holes are even MADE of...

>>130920857
That's pretty impractical though, what's needed is a way of either shutting down the atoms or converting the energy from the nukes into a less destructive form of energy.

I know that that government has the technology to fuck with the weather so they could theoretically start tornadoes right under the nuke before it huts, but that's not as practical as shutting down the atoms.

>>130919831
There's plenty of declassified footage of Interceptor missile systems. The Russians didn't get pissed about anti-ballistic missile systems being installed by us in Poland for nothing.

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The level of retarded in this thread is just off the fucking scale.
>>130920671
No, fission occurs at a high fraction of c, but not at lightspeed

>>130919238

Yes, but there are a fuck ton and each ICBM shoots multiple warheads, with multiple decoys. As of this point we don't have enough missiles to shoot them all down

>>130920857

We can't produce and maintain enough energy to even make a blackhole

>>130921212
tomato
tomata

even bretty close to c is still ass blasting fast

>>130920837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9FZDotVYZI

>>130921263
We don't really target missiles at the terminal end of their flight. Not a lot of room for error then.

Interceptors are a fuckload cheaper than ICBM's and multi-purpose since they can be used against most, if not all ballistic missiles.

>>130921212
Faster than local c?

Cherenkov Radiation.

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>>130919769
>>130920113
I'm lazy ya cunts. If you want it help me find it.

>>130921603
>huehue education
also
>via 9fag

kys

>>130921263
using statistical models like K-nearest neighbors, support converter machines and linear regression it should be possible for us to predict where the warheads are at.

You can also detect the uranium within the nukes with high density laser.

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>>130921734
why dont you let your folder show in a non-autistic way my white friend

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>>130919194
Major, I'M BURNING UUUUUUUUUUUP!

>>130919575
exactly, use some carbon atoms to stabilize the uranium atoms to prevent a reaction. its basic biology.

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>>130919194
>shut down the atoms

>>130922028
>speaking anything other than glorious english

Fuck off, polack.

>>130922242
does this leaf think that just because something contains carbon its biology

i fucking hate leafs

>>130922405
>is leaf
>shits on leafs

lol okay bud

>>130919486
>America will completely fuck over and fry its electrical grid sending them back to the storage of years without power because every generator and power plant has be fried.

Yeah no.

EMP ruins shit. I know you kids played modern warfare 2

>>130919998
who says they can't be friends?

>>130922462
im actually here on vacation, ill be out in ~8 hours

while in your country i realized that leafs deserve everything this anime board gives them

>>130922506
Stone Age

Imagine no cars after 1990 working. Every single smart phone fried. Computers fried. Yeah no.

>>130919194
Because you have no clue about how these things even work, what you are suggest is physically impossible (and completely non-sensical). Might aswell ask why the US is not using faster then light machine guns against ISIS or why the US hasn't traveled back in time to kill Hitler.

There already exist defenses against nukes, which are physically possible and they are already stationed all around the world.

Anti-matter can neutralise the atoms in a nuke.
Unfortunately when you kill the atoms they win.

>>130922544
I always find it funny how removed from reality all of you are. Canada is 10 fold better than the United States (socialized healthcare, equality for women and minorities and an amazing refugee screening process).

But okay, keep shilling for your orange, cheeto-fingered Dictator you fucking yanks. Have fun suffocating on coal fumes while the rest of the world fucking laughs.

America's going down the shitter and everyone knows it.

>>130919194
this joke worked better before. Lurk more.

>>130921586
Its still much lower, in a reactor the neutrons move ~20,000-55,000 km/s. In a bomb its higher but still lower than the local speed of light by a good margin.

Besides, in an uncontrolled detonation any incidence of cherenkov radiation would simply be lost in the background to all the x-rays and gamma.

>>130919998
What's wrong with multiculturalism? Indians, Middle-Easteners, Europeans and Americans all have beautiful cultures that I'd love to introduce to Canadians. why not share the beauty of our cultures?

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>>130919194

Nukes aren't real. Think about it. You know im right.

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>>130922028
>non-autistic
using non-free software is autistic...

This is what a REAL folder should look like

>>130921977
>kys my dude! xD

you're just as bad

>>130922737

>implying im not a democrat
>implying i support trump
>implying i dont support green energy

You're not wrong for implying those things, however, you're wrong.


I'm shitting on leafs because I disliked the people.
You're all rude as shit. 9/10ths of people across the entire bottom row of provinces have absolutely 0 manners.
Southern hospitality is GOAT I suppose.

>>130919486
>Geostationary orbit
>Over North Pole

Play some KSP and get back to me when you've put a satellite in your proposed orbit.

>>130922729
A few years back you would have said it's physically impossible to send a man to the moon.

You are not the pinnacle of intelligence, there are people out there more intelligent than you will ever be, just like people more intelligent then you got together to build the nuke, rocket, and all the other advanced stuff, a group of intelligent people will inevitably develop the technology to shut down the atoms in a nuke.

>>130923104

Says the meme flag

>>130923708
This is less going to the moon by rocket and more championing going to the moon by jumping off a trampoline.

>>130923801
saying "kys" says a lot more about you than a flag does

>>130919734
Sounds reasonable enough

Nuclear weapons are a hoax. The Cold War was a sham. All our rulers work together against the masses. Just like the fake space program. Nothing but special effects, and expired munitions explosions.

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>>130919194
>shut down the atoms in a nuke rendering it useless yet?

>>130924200
It's unlikely that the us would share the technology with nato if they had it, my guess is they haven't developed it yet.

>>130922729

Trust a German cuck boy to bring up "le kill Hitler hehe" in every conversation.

Boy your country's gone to the shitter dogs.

>>130923801
>National Socialism is a meme flag
I fucking hate newfags.

>>130919194
EMP within range of an unprotected warhead reduces its yield dramatically. This isn't some fag-tarded GOP theory-crafting on rape, women and pregnancy. You kill the warhead kinetically, with blast or with directed energy/heat before it detonates. Even the yield-reducing EMP effects are relatively mitigated now in modern, hardened delivery systems and casing designs.

>>130919194
>believing
>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nukes
sheep

thats the stupidest thing ive read all month,

and i was froced to take a gender studies class

>>130926314
What is the sun?

Literally all the proof you need for the existence of nukes, i hope you're not a retard that doesn't believe in the existence of the sun.

>>130926973
>because the gods created nuclear fusion so can retarded jewish scientists
LOLOLOLOLOL literal retard

>>130924200
If this was real there would be hellfire raining over China and Russia

>>130927242

if you hit to rock together really hard what happens?

Shards fly off from both rocks, this is the same with atoms except shards don't fly off, them being smashed together releases a lot of mass in a short time frame which results in a violent exothermic reaction.

It's pretty simple shit to understand, once scientists, the hard part is knowing how to shut down the atoms so they don't smash into each other.

>>130921064
What is dark matter? Fucking retard.

>>130921064
Black holes are not MADE of anything. They're a distortion in space. What causes that distortion is an incredibly dense object - say, the hyper-compacted core of a supergiant star.

>>130923502
Done! I call my satellite "sirius"

Can you see it?

>>130928394
black holes are made of energy

>>130928394
Uwotm8? Read that back to yourself twice s l o w l y ! And then KYS

>>130922576
Every single consumer appliance, you best believe the rich people and government have their shit EMP hardened

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>>130919194
there are nu's in this thread who dont get the reference

>people in this thread are so new they don't remember this meme

>>130928944
We've had that technology since just before the great war, it saved our bacon a few times 'eh m8

Who's got the screenshot?

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>>130920470

>mach 15
>a problem for light speed
>Eurocuck education

Guided missiles tracked and intercepted reentry vehicles in the fucking 60's, Eurocuck. Bomb-pumped lasers could easily fry anything we could conceive. This thread is stupid as fuck already and you've just made it worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvZGaMt7UgQ

>>130922737
Canada has a shitty constitution, so I'm betting that within a few decades it will lose free speech altogether in the name of "equality".

>>130919734
Good plan desu

>>130920470
It's a fucking laser. It moves at light speed. It's not exactly hard to aim.

>>130927976
>genuinely believes scientyists unlocked the power of the sun and put it into a bomb, and humans, the ultimate warmongers and death worshippers they are, have only used these bombs once and then just decided "=nah man lets just build infinite numbers of nukes and never ever use them"
Fucking morons like you who think they ar eintelligent because they choose science, are the scum of the planet and deserve to be shot in the back of the head. People like you are the reason the government is able to control the people. You are literally a cosmic retard

>>130919194
what the fuck am i reading

>>130919194
It's called red mercury

>>130928394
Let's just stop a nuke with a bigger, more powerful nuke that forms a black hole.

>>130927984
>doesnt know scientists have never, and dont even claim to have found dark matter
>they literally dont know what it is
>its literally an equation made by man with no basis in reality
>its literally science fiction

>>130919194
In pretty sure I saw a Chinese cartoon that is basically based around an arms race and one side developed something akin to nukes and then eventually the other side developed a weapon that neutralizes the reaction.

Lelouch lived and escaped to Argentina btw. He comes back in R3. Can't wait.

>>130928394
What kind of fucking bu8llshit religious nutjob, evangelical scientism is this? Fucking hypercompacted star core? Is this fucking star trek faggot?
Have you ever seen a black hole? No? Neither has anyone on the fucking planet, not even through satellite.
Have you ever seen a nuke explode? No? Neither has anybody on the planet. Period.

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>>130919647
>>130919238
Top kek.
How do you protect the libtard strongholds of the West and East Coast from a russian nuclear torpedo attack?

>>130930233
Kindly remove this comment

>>130928944
ive been here since 2009 and I didnt get it, get fucked ahmed

>>130919194
deactivating atoms is childs' play, the real question is how do we deactivate almonds?

>American education
This is why American schools are useful only as firing ranges

>>130919194
Umm it probably exists.

There is a weird field technology that can cause steel to "dissolve". Why not uranium?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4-YwbgXpnkA

>>130931634

I find it strange that people can look at this video and still claim you can't shut down the atoms in a nuke.

People are not willing to accept that some things they are ignorant of many things.

>>130919194
>government
>developing a technology

oh sweetie

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>>130930470
Alien shit.

I may be tinfoil but I firmly believe part of war calculus is recovered alien technology--something you wouldn't want to press your fellow belligerents into using.

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>>130931192
>American schools useful only as firing ranges
Best laugh I've had all day

>>130919194
we don't get to see behind the curtain ie skunkworks or darpa's earl saddle

>>130919238

lol

moron

We can shoot down the old tech.

http://www.popsci.com/chinas-new-missiles-zhuhai

mmmm anything that isn't mutually assured destruction is a waste of money.

>>130931996
>>130931634
Why would you look at the video and not immediately write it off as bullshit?

>no explanation of what is going on
>iron bar begins to smoke at room temperature
>allegedly solid bar shrinks in volume as it "liquefies"
>search results for hutchison effect are "magic crystal"-tier sites

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>>130929842
>>130930097
>We're so strong we can intercept any missile but we're still afraid of the ebil commies

>>130933208
Why would the government of Canada and the us repeated shut this guy down and take his equipment?

> why?

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>>130933416

(You)

Fucking nuke Brussels.

>>130934166
Why would a man go on the internet and tell lies?

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>>130919194
>Why hasn't the government developed the technology to shut down the atoms in a nuke rendering it useless yet?
>shut down atoms in a nuke
>shutdown atoms

why doesn't the government develop a dues ex machina for every possible scenario imaginable like they do in the movies?

>>130919238
>>130919486
I would be nice if those systems worked, but they don't really.

>>130919194
Well you see here Jimbo, to deactivate the atoms in a nuclear device, you have to activate your almonds and reactivate the neutrons

>>130919194
do you have any idea how fission works friendo?

as for "shutting down atoms" ,nuclear plants use heavy water to keep the number of neutrons in check, maybe that can be weaponized.. idk

>>130923708
>A few years back you would have said it's physically impossible to send a man to the moon.
No. Since hundreds of years ago we knew that it was physically possible to move something between the moon and earth.

You can not "shut down atoms" it is a nonsensical statement which has no relation to reality, might as well argue to "gibberidu a nuclear warhead" it is just a statement which has no meaning.

>>130924988
>missing the point completely...

>>130938389
You're just a dumbass on 4chan, you don't know anything about anything, don't act like you know for a fact that it isn't possible to shut down the atoms in a nuke because you don't know shit.

>>130939950
Something as "shutting down atoms" is not a meaningful statement, something which everyone with a basic understanding about physics/chemistry can tell you.

It is just gibberish. If you are talking about shutting down a nuclear weapon, that is easy and the government already has ways to do that.

>>130940507

I completely agree with you. I always cringe when /pol/ attempts science.

>>130919194
>atom bomb
sure we just add a negative atom and then it will turn into a regular bomb, then all we need to do is to add a negative bomb as well and then they it become harmless

>>130919238
its cheaper to build nukes than it is to build defence systems against them

>>130940507
>>130940750
the reason nukes release so much energy is because of fission, when the atoms inside a nuke begin their reaction they lose lots of mass very quickly which is release as heat and energy, if you can shut down the atoms within a nuke there is no reaction

>>130940750
The "Deactivating Atoms" was a meme that this kind anon posted the original reference to:

>>130930436
"Atoms Deactivated"

However, that being said, a sufficiently energy dense neutral particle beam (neutron gun) should do the trick.

But making one of those would be insanely difficult.

>>130932214
XD EBIN DUDE

go back retard

>>130941226
>if you can shut down the atoms within a nuke there is no reaction
But there is still no such thing as "shutting down an atom". You can mean "stopping the reaction" or "releasing the energy". The first one is not feasible while the nuke is till flying, the other one is what is used today, you stop the nuke by exploding it during flight.

>>130934767
Can ((you)) imagine what this technology could mean? Imagine being able to cause the foot in Chernobyl or the melted down reactor piles at Fukushima to disassociate into sub atomic particles without radiation?

Wouldn't that be something worthwhile anon?

>>130930164
The most dangerous man is he who is greatly intelligent but lacks all wisdom.

>>130941763
>this technology
All I see is a fraudulent claim, which unfortunately cannot clean up a nuclear accident.
Are you ever going to address the initial criticism of the video you linked, or will you merely jump to another excuse?

>>130941652
What are atoms composed of?

quarks

what happens if you change what an atom is composed of?

you change the atom

so if you can develop a technology to alter the quarks within an atom you can shut down the atoms within the nuke making it empty slab of metal.

>>130933416
Cummunist ideology will be always be far more threatening to my way of life than their military capabilities.

>>130942737
You are still not "shutting down anything". You are proposing (as you said yourself) to change the atoms to neutralize them.

Which is a decent Idea, but EXTREMELY hard to do.
If such a thing existed all energy needs of the world would be solved forever, nuclear power plants would instantly become 100% safe and 100% clean.

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>He believes nuclear weapons are real

A couple of decades ago a science fiction writer from my country wrote a short story with a related hypothesis.
>the Autistic Genius Scientist discovers a way to render fissionable material inert.
>tells the world governments I already set up some device in a secret place, on day d at hour h ALL fissionable stuff on the planet will be rendered useless (it was some kind of chain reaction)
>it will suck because nuclear plants will be rendered useless too, all kind of stuff used in labs, etc -- so sort your shit faggots, get rid of nukes, world peace, you know the drill, i'm not stopping the device otherwise
>some unnamed government tracks him, secret services kill the poor guy, there's nobody to stop the device now
>they made the calculation that they will launch their nukes at their enemies exactly a few minutes before the h hour, so they work but the retaliaton strike will be useless.
>too bad EVERYONE had the same ideea
>day d, h minus a few minutes ALL nukes fly
world peace works in funny ways.

>>130922737
You can keep your socialized healthcare and minorities you literal gibsmedat nigger. That sounds like a dystopian hellhole to most people here, mate. Enjoy waiting in queue for twelve months for your life threatening surgery

>>130919194
>shut down the atoms
Kek I haven't seen this one in a long time

>topic is not political
>topic is science
>CTRL + F + "sci"
>no redirects
Newfags, the lot of you.
>>>/sci/

>>130946327
>>topic is science
>>>>/sci/
Just no.

>>130922737
I would rather have freedom of speech and the right to bear arms than loads of refugees changing my culture and sponging off well fair, Wired gender pronoun laws where if I dont call some one a fruit bat I can be fined, and Sharia law light slowly seeping into our government. Fuck you, I am with the burgers on this one.

There is a excellent video on this explaining different ways to stop nuclear weapons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6MOaECL6FM

>>130922737
Fuck you man this is about nukes any way please get the fuck out of my country we dont need you bleeding heart fools who vote for shit that will lead to is destruction.

>>130945987
It is and I want to leave at this point I have lost all faith in my country.

>>130942572
By the reaction of you action I can see I have touched a deep state nerve. Why not take this at face value?

Dare to dream of a better world anon.

Deep state best state eh anon?

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>>130919897
DUDE GUNDAM SEED LMAOOOOOOOOO

>>130919194
So this is the power of American education.