Is it racist to ask for a white doctor? https://www.youtube

No.
But It is immoral to demand other people pay money for your healthcare.

>>130898006
No. Not racist to want a doctor who speaks your language clear enough for you to understand.

yes

look up the definition of racism if you're too stupid to believe me.

discrimination based on color.

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>>130898574
how about discrimination based on common sense?

>>130898574

No it isn't.
Look up the definition of "Freedom of association"

I have right to go to restaurant owned by brown person same as white person has right to go restaurant owned by white.

If that woman doesn't want to see The doctor available in hospital it's her loss.Why should I care?

>>130898787
You do know The doctor who is questioned in video is Indian born.

And Indian born students don't get benefit of affirmative action Only black Americans get.

>>130898787

I'm not saying that you're "racism" isn't warranted. I'm just saying. If you make a judgement on a person simply based on their color and absolutely nothing else, that's racism. You're racist. It's not complicated. You don't KNOW for a fact that the person you are refusing to work with has or lacks the skill to do the job, you're assuming they don't when all you know about them is their color. That's racism.

>>130898910

You have the right to be racist as a customer. The law requires as a business owner or in other situations of power, you must brush that racism aside and act responsibly and impartially. You CAN'T exercise that racism within certain situations. The law says if you want to be racist than be racist, but you need to stop making a profit while you do it, or stop doing certain things while you do it.

>>130898006
Yes. It would also be immoral to not fulfill her racist desire. If she has some sort of problem and refuses to be treated be a non-white doctor, not getting that white doctor goes against the whole idea of being a healer.
Another option would be to knock her out and treat her problem that way, since she can't refuse in that state but
> do no harm
sort of goes against that.

inb4
>not a life threatening condition
You don't actually know that until she's properly examined.

>not all of these people take oaths and shit
Yeah but it's more about principles. If you don't have those, you're kind of an asshole.

>>130899325
What rights government has to force business owners?

If I want to sell only girls clothes will it considered sexism?
If I want to sell only little kids clothes will it considered geriatric discrimination?

Every person is free to choose what people he like to talk, marry or sell stuff.

If basement dwellers on pol want to sell to only white customers it's their right. It's not like they produce anything else except body fluids but still it's their right

>>130899487
She came in hospital for her son.She wanted only white doctor to see her son.

>>130898006
i live in an area with almost no whites, and thus not many white doctors. the non-white doctors usually treat me very poorly. when i have the rare white doctor he is usually kind and spends time with me and gives me more information. there is truth that people favor their own. im sure indian doctors are nicer and more chipper to their indian patients, and so on.

>>130900079
That's sweeping generalization.

>>130900070
So, according to law, does she speak for her son, and make decisions in his name? How does that change anything?

>>130899892

>What rights government has to force business owners?

I'm just saying, it's the law. Whether or not government is right in the laws it passes is probably out of the scope of this conversation.

>>130900216
Nothing.
I just pointed out The fact.

>>130898006
No
how is that racist did she say anything hurtful to nonwhites no she just demanded a white doctor and pointed out who is non white.

>>130899892
You can make cloths for girls, but you can't stop a man from buying them. Anti-discrimination laws are fine, but what this women is doing is different. She is a customer who wants to see a certain kind of doctor, hardly unreasonable. Women often times will ask to see a women doctor, and no one bats an eye. It should be the same here.

>>130900276
True. That's fair argument.

This is stupid cause you can get the same service from a non white doctor you can get from a white doctor. Also, this is a hospital, if she wants a white family doctor she can choose one but hospitals don't have that liberty

>>130900204
correct. but its my impression. the area i live in is very diverse, and the chinese citizens like to go to chinese doctors, and the indians like to go to indian doctors, and the jews to jewish doctors. people feel more at home with their own and feel they get better treatment. ive never felt like a doctor who wasnt white thought of me as more than a sack of parts. and the white doctors can sometimes be shitty too, but theyre the only group that has given me good treatment. people treat their own much more humanely. its only evil if whites want that better treatment

>>130900204
When we lack much information about someone, race is a good predictor of many things. It is wise to use all the information you can gather to try and pick the best choice of which doctor to see. If all you have is a picture, their race is one of the most important indicators you have.

>>130898006
shes based, where can i find a redpilled maplethicc?

>>130898266
If you are paying the service, and it is an available option then it is ok, if you are paying but the option doesn't exist, stop complaining and change provider of such service, if you are getting it for free, you can not even fucking complain.

>>130900411
I'm actually defending her Right to ask for white doctor.I don't believe one has right to foot healthcare bill on others.

Why can't I stop men from buying clothes in my shop?
Can't I make womens' only exclusive shop?

>>130898006
If you assume all doctors trained in the same way, it would be. The reality is different, and 3rd rate 3rd world medical students and beneficiaries of affirmative action stop that being the case

>>130900655
Tribalism Trumps individualism I guess

>>130900785
For me skill is best indicator.

>>130901057

>Why can't I stop men from buying clothes in my shop?

Because, it's harmful for society. It's for your own benefit that these laws exist believe it or not. If racism wasn't illegal t hen I would quit messing with Indians because you guys have a habit of shitting in public places and gang raping women with broomsticks. I don't want to be near that shit.

>inb4 well that's fine, I don't need to shop anywhere at all or work at all, so I don't care if nobody likes me.

>>130901070
But doctor is Indian who doesn't get benefit of affirmative action.

Both American and foreign nationals have to give same exam and The preference for admission in medical school is in following order.
1.american born
2.green card holder
3.foreign students.

>I want my Doctor said Goldbergstein
"right away sir"
>"dat doc ain my nigga" said tyrone
"right away sir"
>"I want my doctor to be Muslim" Said Hakim
"right away sir
>"I want my doctor to be white"
RRAAAACIISTTTTTTT

>>130901513
Yes, but he goes to poopoo medical school in poo land, his parents write the test answers for him and he graduates knowing shit all about medicine

>>130901363
And how Indians will suffer if you stop interacting with them?

If you won't,other people will,after all at The end Of The day people care about money not race.

People never ask restaurant owner which race baked a bread he is selling,do they?

>>130901534
>>I want my Doctor said Goldbergstein
>"right away sir"
>>"dat doc ain my nigga" said tyrone
>"right away sir"
>>"I want my doctor to be Muslim" Sa
Show me a vid where this happens.

>>130901768
Then how did he clear USMLE exam?

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>>130898006
Comments on that video are pure fucking cancer

>>130898006
dassa racees dassa racees

>>130901768
I don't know how medical credentials works in every country (Specifically in Canada, because vid is from Canada). But in America and Mexico, you need to re-validate your credentials and take tests in order to perform procedures or medical consultations.

>>130898006
it's only racist if you believe white doctors are superior on account of their whiteness or hate black ones because they are black

>>130901773

>And how Indians will suffer if you stop interacting with them?

Well, if people don't give Indians a job because they're Indians, then logically Indians won't work much right?. I mean sure Indians would obviously still be hired by a certain amount of Indian run businesses but the rest will be screwed out of jobs that maybe they could have gotten. Pretty sure that would be a lot of Indians out of work. No money, no rent, no food, no clothes. Unless you print your own money, hunt your own foot, make your own clothes and shit like that.

>If you won't,other people will,after all at The end Of The day people care about money not race.

Who will?, we just said in this hypothetical that EVERYBODY would stop messing with Indians. Who is "other people"?.

>People never ask restaurant owner which race baked a bread he is selling,do they?

They won't need to because a white restaurant would only be buying bread from businesses that make bread by white people or else they would leave the restaurant just because. Next shit you know they're going to be racist against the bread for being bakes by a certain colored person.

>>130902138
He doesn't know every foreign doctor has to pass exam to get license.

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>>130898168
TAXES, do you know what that is Pajeet?

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>>130898787
You know what they call the token diversity admit med student who graduates last in his class?
Doctor.

>>130898006
Is it racist? Yes.

Is it justified? Yes.

Is racism always a morally bad thing? No.

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Your little girl is deathly ill, you're the furthest thing from a racist.
From just >pic related
what kind of doctor would you choose?

Choosing wrong is guaranteed to risk your kid's life unnecessarily.

>>130902251
In your hypothetical world if people of different races stop trade among them then they all will be worse of.

But still I don't want govt to legislate anything. If you don't want to buy/sell product from/to me,fine with me. I certainly don't want government to force you to do that

i only ever get jewish doctors and lawyers

>>130902349
Theft

>>130902415
Acceptance is extremely different from graduation, luckily

>>130902349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vHAfDjEy3A

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>>130898006
Perhaps it's racist. But when you have blacks literally calling for first responders and medical personal to let white patients die because MUH RACISM, then yeah, I think it's a pretty good idea to look for a white doctor.

http://archive.is/1f4Ml

>>130902415
Your photo suggests Asians have higher scores than whites. So why would that woman demand white doctor if she only cared about skills.

>>130902700

Well, I mean I suppose I understand that you don't want government to mess with what you do but bottom line is everyone can't be happy. This is why we vote on things and bottom line is the democratic system leads us to where we want to be. We've been getting more and more tolerant of others and I personally think that's a good thing. I guess just keep on trying to vote someone like Hitler in just like many others and if the most of the country feels the same as you then eventually Hitler will run things but for now we have to agree on certain things.

>>130898006
>Is it racist to ask for a white doctor?

No. It's intelligent.

>>130898006
This is why I go on ZocDoc and check first. White male goys only.

>>130902993
Probably because she doesn't study statistics. Knows that English speaking doctors are better trained, and minorities are on average, worse. Most people have this gut knowledge.

Muslim husband takes his wife to a doctor
>WALLAHI SHE MUST SEE A WOMAN DOCTOR AND A WOMAN DOCTOR ONLY. ALLAH WILLING IF A MAN TOUCHES HER I WILL BECOME A SHAHID RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW

>>130903002
How do we solve race/cultural divide if we force one race/culture to accept one another?

Will society be better off if government start forcing everyone to have diverse friends?
Not at all.

If you want diverse friends. Fine
If you don't want diverse friends.still fine

>>130902993
Scores can't measure empathy, compassion, or other intangibles that can equate to better overall care. Asians are better at rote memorization, math, and test taking. But the east Asians tend to be cold and robotic, and south Asians tend to be in it for the money and social status, not because they actually care for people. White people have a good combination of intelligence and altruism.
I'm ill and on shit-tier insurance in a major metro area, and I swear to god, if I ever get rich I will never see anyone but white doctors ever again. The Korean doctor I saw was almost okay. But the Indian, chinese and various mudslimes suck ass.

>>130903126
If you look at this data>>130902415, you can clearly see Asian is the best choice, Latino is the second best as it performed better in MCAT (Medical College Admission Test), which shows they have superior medical skills than whites, so choosing whites it is a bad option (But not the worse).

So choosing the 3rd best option is not exactly "intelligent".

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>>130902806
Takes them longer, but overall % graduated is about the same.

>>130903250
Her wish.

She could have choice if Canada didn't have socialised healthcare.

>>130902415
Yeah I'll choose Asian cause they have the toughest time getting in even with higher grades and note the American definition of Asian includes Indian

>>130903788
Yeah. If she's paying for it can choose any fucking doctor you want. If you're getting it for free, you get what you get. Underqualified, worse care. Reason canadians go to the US when they need treated.

>>130903492
Sweeping generalization again.

Anyway you don't need empathy in treatment.

What would you prefer empathetic doctor or skilled one?

>>130898006
Nah, it's just stupid. You want an asian doctor - east asian not pajeet - cause they're actually discriminated against when applying to med school so if one graduates you know he's way better than average.

>>130903983
And Americans go to Canada to buy medicines banned by FDA.

>>130904052
The same is The case for Indians.
Medical license exam doesn't favor any nation except some carribean nations

>>130904110
And the entire world relies on American capitalist-driven innovation to produce the vast majority of modern medicine.

Member when Kanye West demanded a black doctor for his mother's plastic surgery? Didn't work out so well....

>>130903995
>Anyway you don't need empathy in treatment.
Yeah you do. Bedside manner has always been important in the west. We don't need insect doctors like you.

>>130898168
fpbp

>>130898574
Nothing wrong with racism tho

>>130904299
And that will be thing of a past once USA socialize healthcare

>>130904395
Let my customers decide whether they want doctor like me or not.

If they like my skills they will buy my service. Why do you care?

>>130902415
>130903942
This. I'm White. I'll choose White or Asian.

>>130904582
Yep. Probably within 10 years. People sort of have the expectation here now that the government is meant to provide HC to them. Won't be long.

>>130904784
And Truncate will have way for universal healthcare
Either Trumpcare will be subset of universal healthcare or it will be so worse that everyone will be start demanding free healthcare.

>>130900204
The realities of the dark races tends to be sweeping generalities. Doesn't mean they're false.

>>130904927
Boy this Post has so many grammatical errors.This happens when you type from mobile.

>>130902415
>Asians choose to move to America when it clearly has affirmative action for Blacks, Hispanics and Whites
Land of opportunity, indeed. That picture is clearly a sign of discrimination if I've seen it.

>>130905042
Doesn't mean they have to be true in each and every case.

Just because blacks commit more crimes doesn't mean your black neighbor must be criminal

>>130905176
Because intelligent Asians are paid less in Asia compare to USA and asian government neglects them as intelligent people are not firm vote banks.

The doctor cant even take care of his own teeth. Id ask for someone different too. Id want someone who actually cleans their mouth. If you got brown teeth youre unclean. Im not letting some unclean doctor get near me or my kid.

>>130903995
Skill and empathy are not mutually exclusive for white people. But it's extremely rare to find Asians with empathy and altruism. Maybe they treat each other better, it would be natural to relate more to your own people, which is why I would prefer a white doctor. I haven't had good experiences with most East or south Asians.

>>130905176
But you see, racism or something, that's why we must discriminate against the most qualified students.

This actually went to the supreme court. The Conservative judges gave some bullshit reasoning why this discrimination is fine.
Probably under the assumption that because it's just a big question, and states haven't really toughed it, they didn't want to enact something this big from the bench. The liberal judges just hate whites.

>>130905413
>>130905413

For many it is mutually exclusive.

I have noticed that those people who Know more tend to be rude.

Maybe long academic life takes a toll on them

>>130905347
>Because intelligent Asians are paid less in Asia
Do you think US has a policy to look after intelligent people? Look at that picture again, imagine these Asian parents having to face the reality when their kids fail to match their expectations. What I've noticed is that most, if not all, of these Asian kids end up living alienated lives of misery, something to think about before immigrating.

LUL A SHITSKIN ASKING FOR A WHITE DOCTER. BEAUTIFUL.


Anyway, she is right. Why isnt there any white doctors? And that comment section is pure TYT trash.

I hope that the somolian doctors get their brown teeth bashed in with a piece of bacon

>>130898006
Would it be racist and sexist for a muslim woman to ask for a female doctor? I should say would it be racist and sexist for a muslim womans husband to ask for a female doctor for his wife?

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>>130898006

Only if it's whites doing it.

>>130898006
If she's at a walk-in than I wouldn't be surprised at such behavior, they literally treat you like livestock because they pay is based on the # of people served. So you're called in for JUST whatever you told the desk is ailing you, no small talk, no asking questions about what might be causing it, just a quick prescription for antibodies and you're out the door.

I'll be getting a personal doctor next month, fuck 'free healthcare'.

>>130905490
I bet not one of these judges read Thomas Sowell's book on affirmative action. In a few years, the Hispanics will be abusing it even though they will be a majority in many US states. If these kind of problems are ever sorted out it is better now, than never which will be the case in the near future with growing Hispanics.

>>130905490
>>130905490
Suppose if there is only one position in Med school who should get it?

Liberals will demandposition for minority
Conservative will demand for natives.

But society will benefit most if need school brightest student whether he is white or brown immigrant.

Because he will provide better service than others.

He will provide better service to black patients as well than a low score black doctor could have. This is why admission should Be solely based on skills

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>>130899085
>And Indian born students don't get benefit of affirmative action Only black Americans get.
Bull-fucking-shit Mr. Pooinloo. Even my right-wing STEM school is inundated with borderline retarded shitskin Indians. They're like a swarm of roaches in our CS graduate program. None of them know how to program, or anything related to the field, so they work together to cheat. They get to enter with no work or qualifications because they're brown and have rich parents back in the shitstreet old country.

I hate you motherfuckers.

>>130905189
>Doesn't mean they have to be true in each and every case.

Exceptions always happen, I will notice patterns and not relax around blacks. I don't eat shit because I know it's going to taste terrible but i'm sure once in a while you could find some tasty corn in it. You seem keen on leading your life that way, good luck.

>>130906323
No it should be the native if the most talented people are non native they should return to their own country and be the brightest their

>>130906323
>conservative will demand for natives

Nah conservatives demand for rules to apply equally for all. If we are to have no discrimination based on race, that should apply to all, not just to the selected few.

>>130906144
Think this was the case I was referring to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grutter_v._Bollinger

The SCOTUS then affirmed that states do have the right to take down any affirmative action they want. So there's that. Gotta start working at the state level.

>>130898006
when you ask for a white doctor, you ask for a white doctor (someone who just happens to be white), you don't literally ask for a white doctor, otherwise schlomo will sic the virtue signalers on u

>>130906581
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grutter_v._Bollinger
cheers

>>130906379
Not in Med schools in USA.

Medical school preference is in following order
1.US born students
2.Green card holders
3.foreign students.

Some carribean students get higher preference as I've seen told

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>>130898006
Is it racist? Yes.

Is there a problem with being racist. Only to my fellow whites. Racism is a natural fact of life and should be embraced as preference, not hate. Requesting to see a white doctor is as malicious of choosing to fuck one girl and not the other.

no its smart

>>130898006
Yes, but the real question is: what's wrong with being racist?

>>130906457
Sure I prefer judging a person based on his individual skill set and characteristics not based on his skin color/nationality.

Person doesn't choose to be black/brown/white which means one has no right to claim achievement of others just because they share similar skin color.

>>130906579
Not really.
A person shouldn't be slave of any state.

>>130907057
Nothing. Just pay for your healthcare.

She doesn't want to pay.Thats a problem

Beggars can't be choosers

>>130901534
Who's said all of this?

Based. Imagine if she just said that it's unequal for them to invade White countries when they have their own.
Shitskins already knew they were in the wrong, one more step and they would have been eternally BTFO, when word spread it'd be mass deportation, just like how we're deporting beans by the can

>>130898006
I don't care if the doctor I see is white, but I hate when teh doctors are foreign born, have thick accents and are foreign educated. I have a weird disease and am visiting many specialists very frequently. All my bad experiences are with doctors who are not Canadian. I don't trust foreign education, nor do i trust the culture and upbringing that these doctors had

>>130903751
Whites have a higher average GPA and graduation rate (being qualified for the actual field) than Latinos >>130903759

>>130907497
people of the world who get to live in their own countries with their own people.
I know how shitskins want to live with us but tough shit, we don't want to live with you

Pajeet, kindly do fuck off. Nobody wants your shitty input.

>>130908381
Sure. Sorry to Break your safe space. :P

>>130898006
When I got surgery I flew to Iran to make sure that I didn't get a jew doctor. .

>>130902349
Taxes=Theft

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>>130908636
Fuck off the planet

>Go to pajeet doctor
>He wipes his ass with his hand and doesn't watch because muh culture
>Smears shit into open wound
>Get infection
>Die

That's why you don't let curryniggers work on you. They're careless in what they do because there are so many of the fucking roaches that they haven't been taught to value human life.

>>130898006
>Is it racist to ask for a white doctor?
Yeah it is. The better question is, should it be illegal to be racist? Should we respect freedom of speech, religion, and association, or only the first two?

>>130898787
i actually know this guy
and he's a dumb nigger

No it just means you want to get the best service for your money, the best advice and the best care
And most people are racist they are more likely to help their own, chink doctors let my friends child die in the hospital

>>130898006
I have teeth rotting in my head because i refuse to let a non white doctor touch my mouth. Such is the woes of living in Houston.

>>130911122
I feel bad for u son, I've had 2 molars pulled already shit sucks.

>>130898006
Is it racist to ask for a Doctor that hasn't a strong slavic accent and is not missing all his wovels in his name? Or a doctor that isn't German, so you don't have to use a language that you don't use and practize everyday?

>>130898006
>2017
>there are still people that believe racism is bad
LOL

>>130911519
Yeah I don't get it. Nobody explained what was wrong with racism.

>>130911122
I had a tooth pulled, you will have to when it gets painful and it will get really fucking painful if you let it or of it's already too far gone

>>130898168

Pajeet knows his shit.

>>130898787
Just ask for qualifications

>>130911637
Makes people feel bad or something, I dunno

>>130905189
No, the reality of race is that people of a certain race are more inclined to certain behaviors and traits than people of other races.

The best analogy is actually cancer. Some cancer is benign and can be easily removed. Not all cancers are bad. However, because most cancers are extremely threatening to your life, it's better sometimes to just lop off parts of your body to prevent the spread and destruction that can be caused by cancer.

What I'm saying is that even as distasteful as it may be to get rid of the "good" blacks, it's ultimately a life saving decision. The blacks could easily spread to other parts of the body and kill them, causing the whole body to cease functioning. The body in this analogy being human society. Sometimes you gotta chop off a foot to save the whole leg.

>>130908730
moar safe space castles pls