/nsg/ 卐 - National Socialism General ϟϟ BLOOD, FATHERL

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>>130841941

>chinks - eat doggo alive, soulles, dont give a fuck about helpless people and kids, shit on srteet

human

>ruskies - dont doit this shit

unhuman

Hitler is retard. Sorry, but he is wors version of white savior.

>>130842730
those are japs, and Hitler never hated slavs

>>130842894

>Hitler never hated slavs

Wrong. Hitler was a genius fanatic like Lenin, but west need a cold blood normie in chief.

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>>130840779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU6ZwGGkupQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6XDRkuV7vs

>>130843210
then why did he ally himself with the Croatians? or help the Ukrainians when fighting agaisnt the soviets?

Yah the Nazis were so superior they were BTFO by a bunch of Bolsheviks

>>130840779
Who's the guy in pic related

>>130845412
Propably the same reason why the allies allied themselves with Stalin

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>>130843210
Proof Hitler didn't hate Slavs:

Jozef Tiso was a Slovak Catholic priest and was a National Socialist sympathizing politician. He was also a friend of Hitler. In this link, you can find a picture of him shaking hands with Hitler:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jozef_Tiso

Hitler granted independence to the Slovak Republic under Jozef Tiso. He did the same thing with Croatia, another Slavic country. Why would he do that if he had goals to exterminate Slavs?

There were also Slavs fighting for Hitler from Ukraine. They were called the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)
Pic related is a celebration in Ukraine for this division.

See this video for footage of Slavs fighting for Germany:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GG9U1A-3rSI&t=0h0m0s

I'm beginning to create quite the stockpile of these kinds of copypastas I make because I see the same arguments used all the time. You faggots want some other stuff?

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I have been listening to this song all day, post your favorite fashwave artists and songs. SEIG HEIL!

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Hail our people hail victory.
A victory that will ensure a future for your children.

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MFW I see /NSG/ in the catalog

>>130840779
im just testing the flag.

>>130846310
Miguel Serrano Fernandez
a chilean NatSoc, wrote books about esoterism and hitlerism

Can a child of race mixing ever be part of an ethnic identity? Do they choose, or are they forever exiled to the fringes of society?

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also, obligatory sieg heil

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Can somebody give me some facts and arguments against Civic Nationalism

>>130840779
>tfw no torrent to download all videos
Just kill me

>>130851553
Depends on how many there are. Most Hispanic people are a mix of Spaniard and Native blood, but they have their own identity. However, these mixlings shouldn't be considered Natives or Spaniards and do not belong in societies with them.

>>130851681
Look up some stuff on ethnic nepotism, Metapedia and American Renaissance should have some stuff on it. Ethnic nepotism is basically where you are more altruistic towards your ethnic group and more aggressive towards the out-group. Jared Taylor has videos on multiculturalism if you're interested. Here's a study called Oxytocin Promotes Human Ethnocentrism:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3029708/

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>>130851553
Depends. If the world was filled with only fascist and NatSoc nations, there would still be some nations that had a heavy mixed population or relied on civic nationalism instead of ethnic nationalism, such as the Brazilian Integralist movement, and as such they could find themselves moving to such a nation to become a proud patriot and raise a family in that place.

>>130851681
>axis
>czechslovakia and the netherlands
wew lad cant even get your propaganda right

What do you say when commies say Nazi Germany was a privatized capitalistic economy

>>130853015
That's the name it had when I saved the image, couldn't be bothered to change it.

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>>130840779
Italian/Jap mix. Can I join? Took the redpill long ago and know theres no end to this ride.

>>130851681
Yea here is one you are a faggot larper who has no original thought

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> “When in the future our youth no longer hear anything about this Christianity, whose doctrine is far below our own, Christianity will automatically disappear.” .... “When we National Socialists speak of God, by God we do not understand, as do naive Christians and their clerical beneficiaries, a manlike being who is sitting around in some corner of the spheres. Rather, we must open the eyes of mankind to the fact that in addition to our unimportant earth there exist countless other bodies in the universe, many of them surrounded, like the sun, by smaller bodies, the moons. The force which moves all those bodies in the universe, in accordance with Natural Law, is what we call the Eternal, the Allfather or God. The assertion that this world- force can worry about the fate of every individual, every bacillus on earth, and that it can be influenced by so-called prayer or other astonishing things, is based either on a suitable dose of naiveté or on outright commercial effrontery.”

> “In contrast, we National Socialists call upon ourselves to live as naturally as possible — that is, in keeping with the Laws of Life. The more thoroughly we know and attend to the Laws of Nature and Life, the more we adhere to them, the more do we correspond to the will of the Eternal; the deeper our insight into the will of the Eternal, the greater will be our success.” “It follows from the incompatibility of National Socialist and Christian concepts that we must oppose any strengthening of existing Christian denominations and must refuse to give them any assistance. We can make no differentiation between the various Christian confessions. Any strengthening of the Christian concepts would merely work against us.”

> “To an ever-increasing degree the Folk must be wrested from Christianity and their agents..."

google 'volkisch-runes Christianity in the Third Reich' (4chan doesn't allow a link)

>>130853423
What's wrong about asking a question?

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http://www.national-socialism.com/the-biological-world-view/

> http://www.national-socialism.com/the-biological-world-view/

> "No matter from what angle you look at it. Christianity represents a perverted and misanthropic attitude to life that can under no circumstances be tolerated in a healthy society. To put it bluntly, Christianity is a kind of spiritual AIDS that has destroyed our natural immunity against un-biological thinking. It is a contaminating disease of the mind and must be fought with all means."

>>130853396
fuck off happa

>>130853273
Still it annoys me to hell
>implying that czechslovakia wasnt wiped off the map
>implying that netherlands and czechslovakia were as powerful as Hungary or Romania or Bulgaria who had played a much greater role than them.
fucking hell

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>>130846649
>You faggots want some other stuff?

Yes, we need all of it. Copy pastas are best for newfags.

>>130853644
That shit is such a meme.

>>130851553

It can be safed by further mixing with the europeans ONLY if the parent not from europe is from east asia. The moment one parent is an arab, nigger or indian, you are basically fucked in that regard and your kids will always look like mongrels.

>>130854000
>people wanting to mix with mongrels of this magnitude

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Sweden 1930s

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>>130840779
>National Soci-
Stopped reading there.

>>130854000
Only japs. Koreans maybe. Chinks have no soul.

>>130854385
Good words.

>>130851681
It doesn't work in a multicultural society when the people don't assimilate. Niggers, spics and arabs will ruin everything.

Please don't kill me, white man.

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Enjoy further killing your race

>>130855340
why are ancaps so retarded?

>>130855575
Why do Naziboos think alienating themselves from the rest of society is gonna fix anything?

>>130853618
>>130854708
Can we please stop fanning the flames of the Christian vs. Pagan vs. Atheist debates? Those are getting old and counterproductive

>>130853761
Here's my race mixing copypasta:

The biggest problem with race mixing is outbreeding depression caused by the breakdown of coadapted gene complexes that have evolved over time in divergent populations. Hybrid vigor does occur, but only in the F1 generation. Hybrid breakdown or outbreeding depression begins to occur in subsequent generations.

In the following link, you'll read that when two populations of boodies (separated for only 10,000 years) were crossed, scientists feared that the offspring would be affected by the breakdown of coadapted gene complexes:
https://m.phys.org/news/2015-03-isolated-boodies-repopulate-mainland.html

In the next link, you'll read that when two subspecies of lions were crossed, it created retarded offspring:
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4101049.stm

More links about race mixing:
https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_health_consequences_of_race_mixing/
https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/alon_ziv_on_race_mixing/

Think I cherrypicked these? Search "coadapted gene complexes" on Google and see what you find.

>>130855930
Another copypasta about the causes of war:


Why did World War 2 REALLY happen?

Poland made war inevitable:
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html
https://carolynyeager.net/gleiwitz-%E2%80%9Cfalse-flag%E2%80%9D-incident-pure-fiction

Myth of massive Polish death toll:
https://codoh.com/library/document/1459/

FDR wanted war all along:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
http://codoh.com/library/document/2048/
http://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2008/06/16/rainbow-5-roosevelts-secret-pre-pearl-harbor-war-plan-exposed/

Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union was preemptive:
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/stalwarplans.html

Who declared war on who?
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/nexus/NXdeclarations.html

They rejected Hitler's peace offers:
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html

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>>130855717

oy vey it's mister shlomoberg shekelstein

>>130856170
Copypasta whenever you see a comrade feeling down:


Feeling blackpilled? The blackpilled occurs only when you're redpilled. The blackpill makes you feel hopeless and depressed. You feel as though your beliefs have no future and that the end of civilization as we know it is near. Hope isn't lost, comrade. Keep up the fight, here's some cures for the blackpill:

Metamorphosis by Murdoch Murdoch:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zTGTL5hftYY&t=0h0m0s

150,000 Polish Nationalists march against Muslim immigration:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHvwz0jRuw&t=0h35m41s

Nordic Resistance demonstration:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zLngvPQfzdA&t=0h2m9s

Russian government promoting traditional values:
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/19/opinion/la-oe-herlihy-russia-anti-gay-20130619

A remedy for the blackpill is to do something for your movement. Spread posters, redpill others, educate yourself, and focus on self improvement.

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>>130856217
>DA JOOOWWZZ

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>>130855829

. (((please)))

>>130856740
Why are you calling me a Jew? What do we get out of these debates? If people want to go debate about this, they can go to a thread devoted to this topic. It seems like there are pagan threads around here 24/7 nowadays. We're here to talk about National Socialism, not turn the thread into a debate about religion like we always do.

>>130856740
>tfw We were never european paganz
>tfw even mongols were 2smart for paganism

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Hitler’s own opinions and comments regarding Christianity (not the exoteric party propaganda image):

> “The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilization by the Jews of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society. Thus one understands that the healthy elements of the Roman world were proof against the doctrine. Yet Rome allows itself today to reproach Bolshevism with having destroyed the churches. As if Christianity itself hadn’t behaved in the same way towards the pagan temples.”

> “It is deplorable that the Bible should have been translated into German, and the whole of the German people should have thus become exposed to the whole of this Jewish mumbo-jumbo. As a sane German, one is flabbergasted to think that the German folk could have led themselves to such a pass by Jewish filth and priestly twaddle.”

> "In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together. The ideal solution would be to leave the religions to devour themselves, without persecutions. But in that case we must not replace the Church by something equivalent. That would be terrifying! It goes without saying that the whole thing needs a lot of thought. Everything will occur in due time.

> The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect.

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>>130858781
https://youtu.be/u_LHwKxcOIM

Post your source.

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卐 - CHRISTIANITY IN THE THIRD REICH
------------------------------------
>Christianity is the basis of the entire morality of Germany
http://youtu.be/KCwG13K7TAo
>Hitler will never forsake God
http://youtu.be/MV1sVDU9E2E
>Hitler defending Christianity
http://youtu.be/Sz42hBg4jys
>Christianity and religion in Hitler's Germany
http://youtu.be/vat2wprB-0U
>Debunking the anti-Christian myth
http://nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm
>Christianity is not Jewish
http://pastebin.com/9cxmXPCB
>Adolf Hitler and Christianity
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_Christianity
>Debunking the Myths of "Nazi Occultism"
http://web.archive.org/web/20160104235914/http://justice4germans.com/2013/08/07/debunking-the-myths-of-nazi-occultism-national-socialism-was-christian/
>Hitler and Christianity
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/hitler-and-christianity-part-one
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/hitler-and-christianity-part-two
http://mk.christogenea.org/podcasts/hitler-and-christianity-part-three-hitler-grant-stoddard
>Hitler and Christianity - Smoloko
http://smoloko.com/?p=12985
>Was Catholic Hitler "Anti-Christian"?
http://harrington-sites.com/Carrier5.htm
>Positive Christianity in the Third Reich - D. Cajus Fabricius
http://balderexlibris.com/index.php?post/Fabricius-D-Cajus-Positive-Christianity-in-the-third-Reich
>Positive Christianity in the Third Reich
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-1
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-2
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-3
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-4
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-5
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-6
http://christogenea.org/podcasts/positive-christianity-third-reich-part-7-final

>>130854385
I have a question that is somewhat in line with this quote.

What of the Polish? Are you going to tell me that the Nazis didn't fully intend to displace them entirely from their homeland?

>>130859432
You wont get a straight answer from nsg youll only get something like:
>they killed germans so x and y is ok

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>>130857094

Jews love promoting Christianity and defending it (to make it seem legit), when it suits them. Christianity is a 2000 year old Jewish weapon of mass destruction, designed to undermine the strength and values and corrupt the moral compass of Europeans and today of Whites worldwide.

Islam is the same type of Jewish-manufactured WMD, but designed for a different target -- originally intended just for non-jewish middle-easternerns and africans, later tested with success in various asian regions etc.

Why learn a new language? Was this discussed in one of the generals that I missed? If so, does anyone haven screencaps?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvv4cfXJllc

video song directly related to text in pic

>>130861823
Interesting discussion.
I want to learn Italian. The reason for learning a new language is to practice fluidity with the culture of speaking. It's a very very important skill to have especially when traveling to other countries.

>>130855267
>>130855315
>yfw half way to Man In The High Castle

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>>130853938
ftfy

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nice wallpaper

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>>130859776
There was an attack against ethnic Germans in the bordering areas of Poland and Germany. Hitler demanded their safe return and Poland denied. He resorted to war to save German lives.

Go watch the greatest story never told

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Friendly reminder to ignore marxist d&c shills.


This thread is to talk about the movements progression and a place to dwell in unity. Not division.

On a postive note, Has anyone decided to move to the northwest front?

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>>130863300

noyz

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卐 - ENLIGHTENED READING
--------------------------------
>A Guide to German Flying Discs
https://mega.nz/#!yNV0RBia!1g3VqkICyJ5KRSNSPNLC4iTEy-yip6l9_R-dImQhHBU
>The UFO's of Nazi Germany
https://mega.nz/#!uYEDDa7I!rPlPSUBNvT7E9ra1c86GIJXQ5f3Po-4fxuwZZfVSR8Q
>Reich of The Black Sun
https://mega.nz/#!HB9hUQ5R!YDnrLngCDSI6Adj15hwwQcqVNGQ0ffntVje6NOMZJto
>The Laws of The ϟϟ Order
https://mega.nz/#!PN9XmQ5b!LRKFi3pBHegXfVMxSFU0VJpI0XgwwbTqMTbR4xbD0pc
>All About Operation Paperclip
https://mega.nz/#!WVUzyb7I!OdIzDfKRIyJ4hOggqO0d4yWB5q-ynQsugrII2tIb50U
>The Book of Aryan Wisdom & Laws
https://mega.nz/#!XcEDgLZT!YMQL-xDslX5oqRVq4wAH8eZU5Uss5COgwsBAsA4qiqE

卐 - VISUAL PROPAGANDA
------------------------------
>History of Hitler's Waffen ϟϟ
http://5sswiking.tumblr.com/
>Adolf Hitler And The Army of Mankind
http://www.mourningtheancient.com/index1.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e27NUQCeIY&t=130s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI6cLTl26pI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z20OuOpgr0Y&t=20s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxyglRa2eT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQfelbFLK5k&t=3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEesmTAuBqo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xca2V5zr5I

卐 - UKRAINE NATSOC
-------------------------
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAQ2W20iHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smPpGPFU-CU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMCRUZ1OG4g
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3k04-YuKUyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38cxWImjywM&t=96s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHo3ODJ2vek&bpctr=1492229656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvGXcDMymp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VVYeRN1sCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPIxj3TmcUQ&t=5949s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB_vX2iCuz0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=auWMvSwzlbE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zo9oOQoz3rQ

>Funeral For A Ukrainian Nationalist
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w1OIW4kUIvY

卐 Slava Nova Shvabiya 卐

卐 Vitayu Peremoha 卐

>>130863873
Yet, people still deny it happened because they know that would have made Germany's action totally legitimate


Who would NOT do the same for his people? I would do it and gave Stalin the part he wanted in exchange he fucks off and built mega-cannons pointed at Moscow 24/7

>>130840779
Since socialism is bound to fail, as you simply cannot predict and manage the entire market supply, how would they have dealt with that if per say the war never happened?

If they won, obviously they would have had access to many more resources and stave off a system collapse. But still, socialism is bound to fail, even labor would have to be controlled meaning a less free society. Workers would have to work the jobs the government chose for you to a point.

Capitalism allows the economy to sort of naturally balance out supply/demand via the free market.

Now Germans are pretty known for efficiency and organization, and under national socialism perhaps devoted and loyal enough to "do your part". However this is my speculation I cannot speak for the time and the people of the time.

But would it be possible to take the social aspect (not socialist in economy control) of national socialism and apply it to a capitalist economy and still work out?

Honest question.

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>>130863873
Sieg Heil

>>130864899
>Private property in the industry of the Third Reich is often considered a mere nominal provision without much substance. However, that is not correct, because firms, despite the rationing and licensing activities of the state, still had ample scope to devise their own production and investment profiles. Even regarding war-related projects, freedom of contract was generally respected; instead of using power, the state offered firms a number of contract options to choose from. There were several motives behind this attitude of the regime, among them the conviction that private property provided important incentives for increasing efficiency.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-economic-history/article/div-classtitlethe-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy-the-case-of-industrydiv/5853885D956348A13B5CEFDC42313E2B

>Nazi Privatization in the 1930's against the mainstream
www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf


>We National Socialists see in private property a higher level of human economic development that according to the differences in performance controls the management of what has been accomplished enabling and guaranteeing the advantage of a higher standard of living for everyone.

From Hitler's full speech on his reasons for economic intervention since taking power
http://der-fuehrer.org/reden/english/35-05-21.htm

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Can it truly happen lads?

>>130864899
>>130866234
They were already trying to shift themselves towards a more free market system before the war happened. He clearly believed that the lack of a precise economic programme was one of the Nazi Party's strengths, saying: "The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all." National Socialists are entirely centrist on economics and allows for a mixed market system that can be adapted to fit what the people need


>>130866328
Only if you make it happen

>>130866328
no
at least not in the way the people in these threads imagine it
a return to ethnic nationalism can happen but only if we distance ourselves from the old symbols and figures
the people in these threads want society to realize Hitler was right, which will frankly never happen until after we reinstate natsoc
Nobody will even bother listening to us if we present our ideas with swastikas alongside them

>>130867135
This. We just need to mimic the protocols of zion but with pro white objectives replacing the pro Jewish ones

>>130867135
I'd say it's the other way around. We'll only be listened to if we have swastikas and all of the theatrical images and behaviors. Commander Rockwell talked about this a lot. He said that nobody listened to him until he started using the swastika. The press began to follow him, and he gained larger and larger audiences. Besides, we're going to be called Nazis no matter what. Look at Richard Spencer. I wouldn't call him a National Socialist, but he's called a Nazi all the time.

>>130867348
You do realize that the Protocols are more of a guide to parasitism, right? Whites would have to become a parasitical, international group in order for that to work

>>130868129
yeah but he's called a nazi by the fringes of the SJWs and Liberals. most viewers, at least who I have seen talk about him, just view him as far right. Rockwell may have gotten more followers that way but i guaruntee those followers were already NatSoc. We don't need to win over the NatSoc. We need to win over those on the fence, and eventually those who aren't too liberal

>>130868129
>>130867135
It's both. You aren't going to get anywhere by associating with genuine nazi symbolism, because then everything is going to be turned into a holocaust reference.

You have to use symbols based in tradition, culturally relevant symbolism that people can recognize and use it to say that this culture is being eroded.

Utilizing cultural traditions that are still around to bolster them will make the ideology one of nostalgia, hearkening back to an innocent childhood, rather than the evils of some genocide.

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>>130868263
Yeah, it would take dedication sure, but I'm sure since most if not all of us here plan on having 3+ kids it doesn't seem unreasonable to maybe raise one to become a lawyer and get into government, business and finance and have them get money to fund WN/NS movements, and/or practice nepotism and get other WN in positions of power. By doing this we can gain influence and control institutions, as well as open up opportunities for other whites

You guys bring up some fair points. So let's say we created a National Socialist movement. Our flags do not have swastikas, and we do not use any Third Reich symbolism (heiling, etc.). What is our program? We're all National Socialists here, how do we implement a National Socialist ideology without being called Nazis? One thing we must be aware of is the Jewish Question. You cannot just ignore the Jews, because we all know that they cause problems. Being a white nationalist will already get you labeled a Nazi by some people, but antisemitism is something that will cause most people to label you as a Nazi.

>>130870007
> So let's say we created a National Socialist movement

You're thinking of this the wrong way, those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. Rockwell tried, they killed him. Hell in the thirties America had one too and it didn't work, we can't win this by exposing ourselves, we must act as the Jews do and infiltrate.

>>130870359
And how do we go about doing that? If I were to get into an elected position, it's not like I could just stop all non-white immigration, cripple the Jewish power structure, and then promote only white birth rates

>>130870922
You could INCENTIVIZE it, its the small things that work, like for white birth rates you could cut taxes for two parent households with at least one child and are middle class (the largest demographic of this is white people). As for immigration, you could make it very strict to get in and admite people from let say the top 100 universities, which are nearly all in europe. Senator Tom Cotton's immigration bill is a good blueprint to getting America white again too. Crippling the Jewish power structure depends on communication with other whites, and making sure that they are keeping up the struggle to control institutions over the Jews. There's other stuff that's helpful, like increasing funding for abortions and making sure they are in all poor areas and non white areas, along with mass deportations, which can happen. (One of the best ways of doing his would be to classify illegal immigrants as invaders, I dont remember the specifics on how the law would work) IIRC if the fed declared them invaders it would make mass deportations so much easier.

>>130851681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TFKRivoZgw

How can you guys worship Hitler. His stupidity lead Germany to the ultimate defeat and fucked us for the next century

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>>130851681
literally a jewish trick

but that won't convince the normies

>>130853396
you can go to Brazil

>>130856740
>to unite, we have to divide

you're doing the kike's work, white man

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsOdaGIXpBo

Post funny /nsg/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFDW2E9HU6M

>>130877178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEGeHxF0tF4

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>>130866234
>>130866679
So glad I could get such detailed and we'll cited sources. Thank you!

I wonder if the system can be offered through a candidate and bought by the people without mentioning of national socialist Germany.

I can't help but think (((they))) have done such a good job demonizing it that you could possibly sell the great ideas national socialism has to offer without it being dismissed via "muh evil Nazis" garbage.

Has anyone been building a serious case that would get the ball rolling politically in America?

>>130883105
Make new symbols that resonate with American heritage, preach NatSoc ideology without ever once refernecing Hitler or Nazi Germany
We can't build a mainstream ideology based of another country's former national identity that's been demonized beyond recognition

>>130867135
While I too agree with others the symbols can and should be used, I can also see why rebranding is important.

If we could come up with a way to offer a genuine case for national socialism, following it to a T, it's possible. It is a system that worked, there is proof of it. While we don't know how long it could sustain itself, we know it's far superior to communism as it's been tried and failed every time.

>>130883105
Needs a lot of refining imo, but maybe https://www.tradworker.org/platform/ ?

>>130883443
Yes we need to follow it to a T, but we can't once ever mention Hitler or the Nazis
We have to leave him behind in the pursuit of his dream

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>>130883643
While we wouldn't mention them, we can still honor them. Not trying to detract it anything, it's just public suicide until more people discover the truth behind the war. It's complex, no war happens because of any simple thoughts or actions.

The problem is that we have to fight the Jew. Failing to do that will make us a bluepilled movement, but fighting the Jew will make us be labeled as Nazis. So we might as well have the swastika

>>130884456
you need to slowly reveal your power level, not all at once
sure we need people to realize that (((they))) control us, but openly being nazis will only attract more nazis
we need to very slowy redpill the population before we release the final redpill

>>130884802
How can we? The Jews control the narrative since they own virtually all media.

>>130885071
Well how did the Alt-Right do it
The media slams them all day yet their movement is still very mainstream. If they weren't such babyish pricks who worshipped T_Donald I'd be impressed. We need to copy their moves by latching onto a singular leader and using social media and non-mainstream media outlets to spread our message.

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>>130860802
I actually visted wewelsburg last year, absolutely amazing. Sadly over the sun there were those chairs and tables with anti racist magazines. Didnt give a fuck and moved the whole shit away to take some good pics

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>>130885412
good job anon

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>>130885346
Once such a leader arises, I will gladly follow them. But I don't think that's going to happen for a good while.

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>>130885623
Also visited the Hermanns denkmal

>>130885346
>babyish pricks who worshipped T_Donald

You're insulting the people we need. Everyone starts somewhere. T_Donald is a necessary evil. It prepares normies for the redpill.

>>130885814
I agree this is the audience who is likely going to be a necessary part of our movement. Conservatives will be much easier to win over than libs. But in their current state these people are extremeely unworthy of our respect. NatSoc will fix them with labor and civic duty

>>130885814
T_D is too toxic. God, that place is the worst; I want none of that in my National Socialism.

>>130876583
Too many niggers.

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>>130886234
>>130886236
I mean they've turned into a meme of themselves. They'll be our supporters in the future but for now they're a nuisance that only affirms the left in their current views

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MFW I just had a 1 hour chat with a jew and got him to admit I had "good points" about Nazism and jews.

Does anyone have pdfs or anything of Stormtrooper Magazine, Rockwell Report or White Power (both the book by GLR and the newspaper) I've been looking for those.

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How effectrive do you think labeling them "Jewish Supremacists" be?

If we talk about "The Jew" and say it in those sorts of terms, that's an instant conversation ender....

and can you blame anyone for being off-put? By it's nature, it sounds like we're referring to all jews, but blaming all jews wouldn't be logical...

>>130888952
What's the point of arguing with a Jew?
Their tribalism is so strong that even if you convince them that what they're doing is wrong they'll keep doing it.

>>130890650
I generally use Zionists even though I know it's inaccurate. Leftists don't like Israel and it's easier to write it off as anti-israeli speech rather than anti-semitic.

I like Jewish Supremacists though.

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I'm a small government libertarian, who's slowly warming up to the idea of national socialism. I see the importance of a unified movement to protect and advance the white race in this time of great need.

I want to have a dialogue and find some common ground between our beliefs. Can we agree that welfare is a shit system that breeds degeneracy and doesn't lift people out of poverty? We should help the poor by offering opportunities, not handouts.

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>>130892450
I was like you at a time, mostly out of confusion and anti-liberalism, but as I've done more research and gotten older I've found myself finding national socialism more and more attractive.

How do you feel about this quote?

>>130853396
You can never be apart of us

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like it or not, we blacks are part of the US and have been since it's inception. You can't kick us all out and you can't genocide us. I wouldn't mind forcible sterilization of the "ignant" ones.

I'm all for white people being prideful and the US being a large majority white nation, and I think that's how it should be but I don't think I can accept legalized segregation of the 50s, or forced removal to some other country. That'd be so impractical now it's retarded. Further, too many blacks have fought and died for this country in wars in the past and today, just as whites have and so I believe blacks have some claim to America.

The trouble with American blacks seems to me to come from an absolutely shitty fucking culture of degenerate garbage, and that culture is glorified in media, the entertainment industry etc. People like Ben Carson are called stupid, while everyone wnats to know what Ja Rule thinks of everything. Strong crime laws, total retaking of the entertainment industry, media is what needs to be done etc

>>130893083
I 100% agree with the last part of the quote. It has always been a strong belief of mine that the key to a great society is in strong individuals.

Strong individuals create strong families, strong families create strong communities, and strong communities create strong societies.

I am quite honestly surprised that Hitler acknowledged the importance of individualism in society. It's causing me to question a lot of my previous beliefs about Hitler...

>>130895009

The problem with American Blacks is that they're black. They need 2000 years or so to develop on their own, if they can develop at all. It also isn't your place to tell white people how to run their countries.

Seig Heil
>>130892450
Cash welfare with no incentive to work creates parasites

>>130895009
Dude, their God Hitler didn't hate blacks, its mostly just the insecure once.

Black single mothers had been declining every year up until the 70s - when the liberal bug dug itself into their culture.

Blacks have been on a downward spiral from there but I think their is hope that they will build stronger families for the future.

>>130895353
>question a lot of my previous beliefs about Hitler
Unless your beliefs are backed up by something you have personally read and cross-checked with other sources, I'd question all of your beliefs. Despite being an anti-communist, I've been doing research on communist philosophy and politicians both to have an understanding of my enemy, and to be able to know what I'm talking about in the event I have to talk to a communist supporter.

I believe that while a strong society is needed, and a society must be created out of groups of strong communities (communities being social communities such as your town, or professional communities such as your union or corporation) we it's important the the government encourage the individual to form their strong families, either the literal family that meets with other families to form a social community, or the business "family" you create with your coworkers that works with other businesses to make the professional community.

Individualism is the foundation upon which the National Socialist society is built upon, but community is the pillar that holds it up.

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>>130896897
Interesting points. I'm glad we found some commonality. I want to dive a little deeper, and I hope you might be willing to answer a few more questions for me.

In your mind, what is the role of government? Why would National Socialism accomplish filling this better than previous forms of government? And lastly, how would we transition from our current political system in the USA to the system you describe?

>>130900337
The role of the government is to lead the people everything needs strong leadership from a wolf pack to a elephant herd to a society of Humans, unlike in a democracy where leaders are not selected from merit or love of country but by greed and simple popularity + media connections leading to the failure of the system we have today, a natsoc government will be able to appoint the very best members of the society's who will come from well educated and nationalistic members. The government is not just to keep order like in a libertarian one but it is to coordinate and maintain the state and make sure it's goals and wants are being met.

Natsoc wants you to be a strong individual but that strong individual must be in line with the community and must care for them, and if that means you can't sell mass produced pornography or be gay and have less civil rights then so be it since all of those harm the community and individual and in effect harm the entire nation

>>130900337
>what is the role of government?
The government has the role of being the guiding force in the shaping and maintaining of society, as our current society is so immoral and decadent it will be a hard process that requires a firm hand to acheive. The government would set the standard and help the people to meet that standard.

>Why would National Socialism accomplish filling this better than previous forms of government?
National Socialism is set out from the beginning as an ideology with a goal of creating a state that allows for and encourages a continued existance and future for our people. It is truly intentioned to serve the people, giving them not what they think they want, but what they actually need. A well organized government should allow no room for corruption or subversion and needs to stick to the true path, not making any compromises despite whatever bribes or political coercion is leveraged upon it.

>how would we transition from our current political system in the USA to the system you describe?
This is something I've been torn on myself, while I would prefer a peaceful means, I'm coming to find it might be impossible due to the precautions put into place by the existing systems. I've yet to swallow the Siegepill that Atomwaffen pushes, but perhaps they do have the right idea. Waiting for the dying system in place to collapse or finding the moment where it's strained enough that significant action may be taken and siezing power in the wake of that.

Sorry if I sound a bit incoherent in places it's nearly 1:30 AM and Ive been up for a while.

>>130900337
Im the poster you're replying to by the way, just on my phone now

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What are yall's 8values tests?

>>130903668
I've gotten Right Wing Populism, Fascism and Autocracy across different versions of the test. Ill take it again tomorrow and report back, for now I sleep.

Good night /nsg/.

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>>130903668
Pretty similar

>>130903859
Yeah sometimes taking these tests depends on how much you've read the news today lol. It's the no step on snek meme coming to life

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UNITED FOREVER IN FRIENDSHIP AND LABOUR!
LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE UNITED AND FREE

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>>130903903
>tfw didn't get fascism

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>>130902498
>>130902592
I appreciate the well thought out responses. It has been eye-opening to better understand your perspectives. Thanks for the write up

I wouldn't call myself completely "red-pilled" yet, but I'm sliding closer towards your political beliefs. I encourage you to keep the dialogue alive, it is great that people are using the internet as a medium to discuss ways to solve the issues surrounding western societal decay.

We undoubtedly have some big problems facing our race, which require large solutions. Let's just hope our next solution is really final this time (lol)

>>130905619
Same thing basically.

I just dragged myself out of the hell that is Marxism. The only positive thing I got from it is what exactly it is, and how they're distinguished from Liberals. It's been a shitty year but boy, it feels great to be back.

>>130905045
Death to all commie cucks

>>130906246
>When you believe the strongest will always prevail but lost the only war you fought.

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where can I buy that painting of hitler in the background of pic related?

>>130906635
Yeah it's not like it was attacked on all sides by nearly every country that could afford it.

>>130906893
>When your political ideology was so shitty both capitalists and communists had to come together to stop it

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>>130906642
heres the pic

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>>130903668
Similar mein freund

>>130908437
Not sure why it doesn't say you're a Capitalist Fascist.

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Don't die on me thread.

>>130907081
>implying the two 'ideologies' who only care about wealth are much different

>>130916280
I wonder ((who)) could be behind extreme capitalism and extreme communism