where my fascbros at? I am getting a bit tired of libertarians

>>130812389
I'm an American Fascist, we do exist.

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>>130813024
how do you plan to create unity of a peoples in a 56% white mongrel country?

>>130813332
This white percentage number is like the holocaust death toll, it changes every single time someone says anything about it. It's higher than 56%, but anyway, a reversal of certain immigration policies can easily reverse current demographic trends if done in the next 2-3 decades or so. Besides, full on ethno nationalism in America is unrealistic anyway. I know how people feel about (((civic nationalism))) but I actually think it can and has worked.

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>>130813332
It's actually about 80%, including the "white hispanics" (which are just whites). And anyhow it shouldn't be too big of a problem, once you get rid of the democracy and laws that pit us against one another.

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>>130812389
You do understand that Fascism is just a really hardcore version of civic nationalism, right? For example, in America, we wouldn't start rounding up minorities. We would simply cut off the inflows of new migrants, not because of their race, but because of their stark negative effects economically and culturally. Mussolini himself didn't give a shit about race, until late in the war when he was getting propped up by the Austrian TurboAutist.

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>>130812389
>not being an elitist traditionalist ie monarchist

>>130812389
I know toothpaste bro

I'm dead tired of Reddit coming here and thinking they are cool.

> the Donald complains about incompatible cultures
> comes to pol and unironically tries to change the culture

I'm kinda seeing what BLM is taking about - white people cant help themselves.

Death to all kikes tho

>>130817103
Fuck off Franco, fucking dickhead.

"You in America will see that someday."

>>130817256
isnt that guy essentially a fascist ...kings ARE kings

>>130817481
Fascism is a Third Way politically as well as economically. Like Napoleon, Fascists combined the complete executive power of an Absolute Monarch with the popular mandate of an Elected leader. As monarchy has faded from the world, this point has been forgotten, but it was revolutionary in the heyday of the 20s and 30s.

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>>130817082
This. There's three things that bind people together, race, religion, and culture, and as long as you can get your people to share two of those three things you should be good.

>>130817848
then dont call me franco

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>>130813332
Same way you do in a 95% white country
>send the nonwhites packing

How do YOU plan to create unity of a peoples in a gun-free country?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUwunO8FWdk

>>130812389
Fash party when?

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>>130818345
Fascism is making a return, but no one is gonna call it fascism.

>>130817848
nvm call me franco i guess

>>130818527
You mean when corporations and government conspire together to benefit the corporations at the expense of the people? It's happening already.

>>130817082
>Mussolini himself didn't give a shit about race

Mussolini was, from the start, heavily suppressing Slav population in regions Italy annexed after WW1

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>>130818949
No, they've been doing that for years now. What's happening now is people are getting sick of that shit, and getting sick of the globalism and liberalism that is getting pushed onto us.

>>130819180
Oh, you mean people will blame liberals instead of capitalism? Sure, that sounds likely. And the same corporations that demanded importation of labour and were ruining your lives end up running your lives. What fun.

PS: just like Golden Age of Islam, the Height of Fascism wasn't real

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>>130812389
Clerical fascist here!

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>>130819489
Considering that commies and liberals are standing side by side to push this shit on us, people are seeing through the bullshit that they're peddling.

>>130818949
>implying there won't be exploatation of workers under communism
Read the fucking Communist Manifesto already. Revolution is the way of removing the bourgeois property and substitute it with totalitarian learership of communists.Workers will be exploited under coercion of work and economic plans.

>>130819748
They aren't, though. Liberals are currently bitching at Bernie and Stein.

>>130817082
>Mussolini didn't give a shit about race

Haha no he shrekt the slovenes and gassed the ethiopians.
He also refrred the meds as an Aryan race

Yeah gather all in one thread, that way we can ready the Gulags

>>130818527
Integralist uniforms are aesthetic

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Yes!

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>>130820170
If they are, I sure as hell haven't seen that. Right now the working class is being screwed over on all sides, the liberals bring in refugees to take our resources and commit crimes on our people, the capitalists export our jobs overseas to foreign nations, and the commies go around beating up the working class for not using the preferred pronouns of the trannies. The working class has gotten sick of this treatment, and so have sought other solutions, a third way out of this mess.

>>130813332
Balkanization

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>>130812389
We are here dont worry bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ

Seriously, how do moderates and libertarians who support white nationalism and oppose Muslim immigration plan to contribute to our movement? It's great that we have your support, but your beliefs have proven ineffective at achieving anything so far, and I fail to see them achieving anything in the future. You need something farther right and more authoritarian, your beliefs are just gateway drugs into National Socialism and Fascism

>>130820599
They aren't, though. Memberships for socialist parties are currently swelling everywhere.

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>>130820968
Define "everywhere".

Government should be as small as possible and as fascistic as possible.

Prove me wrong.
inb4 it's mutually exclusive, see: today's average western govenrment that isn't fascism

>>130819180
That faggot Peron bringed poverty in our people.
Literally left Argentina in debt and dictatorship.

Peron is not a facist, he is a socialist. Maduro tier

>>130818949
Is that really your worst fear? How about the jews that have planted the idea of communism into your mind buddy?

You wanna enslave your own people in the name of an ideology,little commie traitor?
You want them to work themselves to death so that you can feel powerful,little commie?

Guess what faggot,if communism rises,you will be one of the first that gets deported to a gulag. You think you're gonna be some supreme leader?

Haha faggot,good luck with that. I'll be offering free helicopter rides for your kind when nazism rises again.

>>130812389
I believe in an ecclesiarchy. Does that count?

>>130821123
In more places than fascism is rising. :^)

Actually, it's only Golden Dawn that is genuinely fascist and not some sort of LARPing anymore.

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>>130821589
>In more places than fascism is rising
Well thanks for the non-answer I guess.

>it's only Golden Dawn that is genuinely fascist
That's cause we aren't calling it fascism anymore.

>>130821749
>we aren't calling it fascism anymore
Right-wing populism is useful idiot to corporations cuck central.

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>>130822044
Fascism is beneficial for the workers and business. Communism turns it into a war between the workers and business and then acts all surprised when everybody is poor as shit and starving to death.

>>130820271
>using gas in war is a form of racism

>>130822267
Well, you have the fascist bullshit spewing down pat.

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>>130822562
Let me guess, starving is "not real communism", am I right?

>>130812389
I'm a monarchist or a sort of monarcho-fascist and I'm still here, although very dissatisfied with the present form of /pol/. But, we lived through the SRS invasions, /pol/ harbor, and all kinds of crazy shit, so we'll survive the lefty/pol/ retards and MAGA fuckboys. Libertardians have always been here, however, and are probably here to stay.

I would like to see a world that rolled back the material dialectic to a time before modern ideologies like capitalism and socialism. I wish we could bury both, as they are the same, the moral cancer that is materialism. Fascism seems the only way to accomplish such drastic social upheaval in any directed way.
But, ideally, the fascism should also be a monarchical fascism, similar to Falangism. Fascism can rebuild social order, but it is far greater when it also seeks to rebuild the spiritual order.

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>>130822649
Last famine under communism was in 1947.

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>>130822732
>Fascism can rebuild social order, but it is far greater when it also seeks to rebuild the spiritual order.
I agree that fascism ought to be focused on more than just the body, it ought to focus on the soul as well, a Christian spiritual fascism, as it were.

>>130822649
LMAO fashcucks lost the only war they fought. Stop being a classcuck

>>130822732
i feel pretty much the same way.

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>>130822813
http://www.dailywire.com/news/16126/people-literally-starving-thanks-socialism-hank-berrien#

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>>130822961
And nobody even needed to fight a war to bring communism down.

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>>130812389
Seig heil!
>human nature craves hierarchy
>people are the strongest and most successful when they abstain from degeneracy and resist weakness
The nation/race should never be damaged in order to cater to the extremely selfish, traitorous, outsiders, or weaklings.

That said a Roman style republic with restricted voting rights and a strong central leader is best.
Only people who can vote:
>white males 18+
>white females 25+
>can't be on welfare
Also
>the white race should always be at least 99% of the population
>only whites can become citizens

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I appreciate Fascist threads, they're rare.

I was thinking we may need a /Fash/General, but usually we piggyback off NSG

>>130823126
>knows that news media lies and pushes narratives
>knows that they are owned by billionaires
>can't realize that the news have every reason to lie to you about socialism

>>130813332
*blocks your path*

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>>130823439
>white males 18+
>white females 25+
I think it should be males who have served militarily and female mothers. Also can't be on welfare, like you said.

>>130822813
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

Try again retard. And let's not forget the North Korean famine of 1998

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>>130823478
And the Venezuela anons who come here and talk about how shitty it is? I've never seen a Venezuelan anon claim that his situation wasn't terrible.

>>130822961
>>130823227
Why fascists and commies hate each other so much?
Mussolini and Stalin were basically brothers, both ideologies aim to a socialist leaning economic system, I don't see why we have to divide ourselves instead of teaming up against capitalism.

>>130823680
What are those pics you're using?

>>130823775
Jew spotted

>>130823680
I didn't say Venezuela wasn't fucked. It's just not due to socialism, as it is not socialist, period.

>>130822267
The nation should be united to improve the lives of the lowest classes. None of our (ethnic) people should live in poverty
>at the same time we shouldn't hold back our successful if we don't have to.

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>>130823775
Get
The
FUCK
Out
Traitor

I'm assuming you've never even read any books Mussolini wrote..?

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>>130823775
>both ideologies aim to a socialist leaning economic system

Yeah keep telling yourself that. Fascism only used left-wing rhetoric to misguide the oppressed working class. Basically ruling class blaming the ruling class

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>>130812389
Pic related for communist autismos

>>130823586
i think mandatory military service prior to full citizenship rights should be a thing.

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>>130823798
From an artist called NicklausofKrieg on deviantart.

>>130823904
>as it is not socialist, period
Not real socialism strikes again!

>>130823910
Exactly. Success, when it isn't at the expense of our nation's people, should be encouraged, not suppressed. Hitler, to my continued amazement, somehow managed to increase workers wages, decrease unemployment, and increase business profits all at the same time.

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>>130824124
Go jump on the cock carousel Vlad

>>130823904
>Venezuela isn't socialist because I said so
Really, all communist are just grown up babies nowadays

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OY
VEY

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>>130824255
SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP

Would you like to know more?

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VEY
OY

>>130823586
200 years ago military males would work but not now. The most intelligent and elite males almost never join the military opting to instead advance their education, start families, and work in important sectors of society like businesses and science.
>imagine all college + level males
Now they would either not go to college, stunting their potential or do and never be able to vote. We don't want that disadvantage where the best can't lead or don't give the nation as much as they can

>>130824309
>>130824375
>insisting something is socialism repeatedly has no consequence
>insisting to the contrary repeatedly becomes an argument against itself
Really makes me think.

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>>130824255
See
>>130824451
It would hold us back and me put at a disadvantage against competing countries.

>>130824420
guy on top right gettin all sorts of pussy

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Remember, nothing has been TRUE communism yet.

>>130824314
Go jump on your fashy leader's cock. Hell, even offer your wife to him. How are fashy idiots who basically give their life to a figure of authority not considered cucks?

>>130824124
>not being able to distinguish the meaning of fascist corporation and international company

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>>130824508
If they don't want us to call them socialist they should stop calling themselves socialist.

>>130823957
I haven't read anything written by mussolini, I just started reading the doctrine of fascism. Anything to suggest other than that?

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>>130812389
Very true OP we need fascism back, Ritorniamo! VIVA IL DUCE!

>>130824704
Socialism has universal appeal, and opportunitist like to play politics. Just ask NSDAP.

>>130822267
Class cooperation best class system

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>>130824594
>>130824451
Also we want the most intelligent men, with relatively high levels of fitness and ambition, to go to school so they meet other intelligent women and hopefully start breeding younger so they have 5+ children with desirable genetics. If those people have significantly higher birth rates they will start to impact the overall population by spreading desirable traits. Thus improving everyone without forcefully cutting off chunks of society.
>having society publicly shame cowardly and degenerate males will work just fine to sharpen the male population.

>>130824124
More uneducated posts from the commie... your pic is a fake quote, it comes from Giovanni Gentile, not Musso, and it's still wrong, he take of corporatism, not capitalism.

Mussolini created the Italian welfare state and work pension, the equivalent of the SSA. He worked feverishly to seize private businesses and make them state run. he mirrored all sorts of policies of the USSR

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>>130822529
He didn't used it in Greece or Albania
He considered niggers as lesser races (rightfully)
See racial laws in the colonies

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>>130824640
Mussolinis wife? Which one, he had a bunch of mistresses..

It's not giving their lives to a figure of authority.
It's giving their lives for their nation and those who live in it, it's your DUTY to protect your homeland, otherwise leave.

P.S. You are aware that most, sorry all, socialist and Communist nations are extremely Authoritarian/totalitarian?

>>130824747
Ah you're pretty new, explains it.
Read 'My Autobiography", as the name implies its him writing his life and explaining Fascism.

It was actually released in America first so people could see through the government lies put out at the time, and people (in the whole world really) fell in love with Mussolini

This man fought tooth and nail against the Socialist riots and communist extremists in Italy and his life has many kickass stories.

And something you REALLY need to understand if you want to bear the title of a Fascist is that FASCISM IS NOT LEFT OR RIGHT.

It's a third alternative, it has SOME socialist functions, and it also has SOME Capitalist ones. It's an amazing mixture that worked.

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>>130824829
Hitler defined socialism entirely differently than Marxist socialism, and he didn't shy away from the name. No one claims that Hitler wasn't a National Socialist.

>>130824852
I think we're starting to see a return to that. I don't want to feed the "Trump is a fascist" rhetoric, because he' not, but for the first time in a long time it wasn't an election between "free market will fix everything" and "the corporations need to be punished", instead Trump promised to improve the situation for the working class and the businesses side by side, together.

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>>130822811
And here is yours

>>130824594
I can see, but my thinking is that you don't get the right to vote until 25+, unless you've done a three year conscription service, from the age of 18, and get the full suite of citizenship rights after.They wouldn't be able to apply for college or work anything other than basic jobs until they served. The conscripts would be used only if the nation was directly attacked. I can see the potential downsides of my thinking though.

>>130824508
I am convinced that the path to a new, better and possible world is not capitalism, the path is socialism.

Hugo Chavez

>>130825186
>muh corporatism is not real capitalism
Mussolini only seized businesses to powwer the Fascist war machine. Fascism always tends to privatize things that benefit their wealthy friends, and nationalise what benefits the State military. Also creating welfare is just populism. Socialist policies are popular among the masses, so Mussolini had to maintain popular support somehow

>>130824640
>people who give their life to an authoritarian
What is stalin, Lenin, Mao

Go read a history book dumbass

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>>130825271
>the Socialist Worker's party
>lowered worker's wages
>banned unions
>suspended right to strike
>put actual socialists in concentration camps
>privatized most industry
>made the rich even richer
Hmmm

>>130825150
>tfw met 150IQ girl in uni
>smartest girl I've ever met
>turns out to be Lesbian
I'm starting to think there's a plot to turn any highly intelligent and non-standard/eccentric woman gay so they don't spread their genes.

>>130813332
You don't. You either let it become brazil 2.0 or you balkanize the whole continent.

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>>130825684
There is an attempt to turn all college kids into degenerates to stop our spread.
>4 years of brainwashing isn't on accident.

>>130813332
Damn that dude at the far left looks fashy af.

>>130821749
Salazar was not a fascist. Our Estado Novo was different.

>>130825256
>You are aware that most, sorry all, socialist and Communist nations are extremely Authoritarian/totalitarian?

Yeah but we worship the dialectical materialist philosophy, not one man. You do realise that only the German Wehrmacht, the lower branch of the German military fought for their nation? The higher branch, the Waffen-SS had to swear an oath cucking out to Hitler.

Also, look up CNT-FAI, Free Ukrainian States, the Paris commune, Alexander Dubček. Proof that you can have socialist countries without cucking out to a state

>>130812389
the more i think about it, the more i realize fascism is the true answer to a countrys problems, but one must be careful economically

>>130817082
well nogger, it depends on nthe country. not every countyr wnats to become a mexican-african toilet, and ethnicities are a vital part of culture, because culture is a result of iq and race dynamics.

>>130812389
Utopian thinking is destructive thinking.

>>130825640
Yeah, except they didn't swear oaths of loyalty to Lenin or Stalin. The German legal system, military, SS, whatever else, all cucked to Hitler and swore an oath to him

>>130825585
>>130825989
Nigs weren't citizens

>>130825968
>Not one man

The scortched lands of the USSR was littered with pictures of Stalin, put in every puppet government. Statues of Lenin litter the streets and the remnants still lay there today.
Mao made it mandatory for people to keep the small little fucking book of stupid shit he says

Wehrmacht oath: ""I swear to God this sacred oath that to the Leader of the German Empire and people, Adolf Hitler, supreme commander of the armed forces, I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier I shall at all times be prepared to give my life for this oath."
I don't think you know what the Waffen SS did, or that you are aware that the Kriegsmarine or Luftwaffe exists, you know, other branches of the forces but ok.

All Socialist and Communist nations start of as "We'll have a board of people and we'll all be free and cool" but always end up clinging to one man as if clinging to a liferaft.

>>130826134
>swearing an oath to the absolute protector of your people
>Cucking out
You don't understand Hitler or power politics do you

>>130812389
A perfect society is worthless if the people do not have the necessary freedom to enjoy it. A fascist nation will likely last for a very long time, but it will ultimately come at the expense of the humanity of its citizens. You might as well just create a society of robots. Perfectly functional and perfectly efficient, but not human.

>>130826455
>'protector' of the people
>shills out to the industrialists and abolishes working rights of white people
Nazis are so deluded about Hitler, he just kicked out ((the ruling class)) and replaced it with another ruling class

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>>130827598
>Workers party
>Workers happy
>Break rooms, mandatory lunch breaks and holidays off, minimum wage, all things invented in Nazi Germany
>Communists mad that it's not the workers paradise of 20 hour work days in hot sweatshops

>>130827094
Freedom creates not only rights, but also obligations. A man that claims to be free has a duty to act justly, keep himself from degeneartion and support his fellow citizens in times of need

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>>130827991
>Communists mad that it's not the workers paradise of 20 hour work days in hot sweatshops

Don't blame globalist multinational practices on us

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>>130820502
>>130828716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtAJSmc570c

>>130829041
Are you saying that Communist nations aren't strong enough to fight globalism? Isn't that in their top ten list of things why they need Communism?

Man, Communists are Pussys.

Maybe MAYBE it's because the shit the state demands doesnt change as time changes and they have no sympathy for workers, and they just say "I don't care what you have to do, just do this absurd amount by this time"

Have you been to a Communist country? How was it?

>>130828257
And then what happens when certain citizens become too needy? You dispose of them, because if you don't the entire system will collapse. You throw away your sick, dying, disabled, or "defective" because they're dead weight to your society. Love for my fellow white man, am I right?

>>130813332
Genocide, eugenics, racial hygiene

>>130829602
Everyone is obliged to give his best and to support each other. Sloth deserves punishment, not disability or defects. Disease is to be cured, dying are to be accompanied during their last moments.

>>130825224
Using it against a European country would invite retaliation by the Allies. The Ethopians could do shit all about it.

>>130826023
>Creole shithole calling someone else a nigger

Lel. Besides, implying that immigration is cut down to absolute minimum, the United States will ultimately Bleach itself. In fact, Thomas Jefferson was a huge fan of this style of eugenics, and even saw it as a solution to slaver.y

>>130829519
>Are you saying that Communist nations aren't strong enough to fight globalism?
Maybe, just maybe, the Chinese elites benefit from this, and are communist in name only to appeal to the public?
>Maybe MAYBE it's because the shit the state demands doesnt change as time changes and they have no sympathy for workers, and they just say "I don't care what you have to do, just do this absurd amount by this time"
Read up on GOSPLAN, they had strict rules on working hours and if you didn't respek, you went to GULAG
>Have you been to a Communist country? How was it?

I come from a former one. 3rd highest home ownership in the world

>>130832028
But you're not in one currently..?
And MAYBE China IS Communist and, like all Communist countries, the leaders and elites benefit from borderline slave labor (that people aren't allowed to protest) and

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>>130825671
>lowered worker's wages
Blatantly false

>banned unions
Created a national version instead

>suspended right to strike
And lowered unemployment

>put actual socialists in concentration camps
That's a good thing

>privatized most industry
And?

>made the rich even richer
And the poor richer as well.

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>>130832028
>and are communist in name only to appeal to the public?
Boy, that seems to happen a lot with you communists, doesn't it?

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>>130812389
I wish England was facist monarchy

>>130833413
Not the USSR. They weren't cucked by multicorp and forced to kill worker's rights

>>130835788
You're right, they just killed the workers directly.

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>>130820897
Can you prove extremism works effectively long term?
The problem with fascism is eventually everyone gets sick of their bullshit. Just like Communism.

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>>130836287
That's bullshit. They killed Kulaks. Kulaks deserved it. ALso, better red and dead than being a wagecuck

>>130839848
They did not deserve it. They were called 'enemies of the people' just because they didn't want to get cucked by central government. They were enemies of the communists, not the people.

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>>130839848
>farmers end up under the USSR
>find out they're working harder for less reward
>revolt by keeping the food they themselves farmed
>get killed for wanting to keep the full value of their labor

>>130839848
fuck off mate. "Kulak" was a codeword for a rich person

Friendly reminder. Most hispanic whites are Not white

You must have 90% dna originating with haplogroup r1b and r1b really to be white.

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>>130839848
>better red and dead than being a wagecuck
You would rather die than accept wages for an honest day's work? I think you're in the wrong place pal, /r9k/ is more like your style.