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>its not addictive biggest lie of our time right next

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>its not addictive

biggest lie of our time right next to the holohoax
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>>130726275
It is addictive, I used to smoke that garbage 5 times a day for about 6 years.
Then I found /pol/
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Pretty sure "hands up don't shoot" was the biggest hoax
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It's not addictive. I just smoke everyday before and after work.
Oh and also during work too.

I could quit anytime but why.
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>>130726529

>tfw can't quit it

how long does it take to get it out of your system if you're a hardcore stoner?
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Literally just called my dealer for a quarter , life is good phampies
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>>130726529

sorry you're easily manipulated and so naive, nazi piece of garbage.
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well its a mental addiction not a chemical addiction just like how someone can get addicted to pop
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>mfw nu/pol/ just projects their degeneracy onto everyone else and calls it a valid observation
Sorry you redditspacing child but it's objectively medically proven that cannabis is 100% harmless to "withdraw" from, compared to, say alcohol
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>>130726619

Is this post satire? This is literally the mantra of every addict. Try actually quitting for a while before claiming that you can quit anytime.
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>>130726275
>addictive
Smoked it for 4 years straight in college
Quit without a problem and havent smoked since. It's just a habit.
Doesnt cause a physical dependancy only psychological for some.
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Its not addictive
I would smoke during college semesters
But would take off summer and winter breaks off clean cause living at home
and i havent smoked since graduating 3 years ago
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>>130726275
I was addicted to drinking to the point I would get the shakes if I stopped.
Weed ain't shit.
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>>130726529
>5 times a day
Filthy casual
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Smoked during university. After some years got bored of it and stopped from one to the other day. No sickness or bad feeling afterwards. Would not call it more addictive than chocolate.
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If it's not addictive why can't I stop smoking weed?
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>>130726529
You are the kind of weirdo who likes fringe shit just to be edgy.
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I usually smoke everyday. I'm on day 3 of a tolerance break right now and I feel absolutely fine. No headaches, body pains, sweats, nothing that can be associated with a withdrawal.


Not addictive.
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>>130726781
Enjoy your brain damage
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>>130726700
asking for a friend too..
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>>130726275

I do one week on one week off.

Literally EVERYTHING can be psychologically addictive.
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>>130726275
It is mentally addictive but not physically. Still bad in excess
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>>130726529
>from stoner addict to full blown nazi
looks like you have a problem with lack of willpower and personality. how does life as a spineless drone feel?
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>>130726700
I haven't smoked in about 4 years now, 1st year was sort of shit, not even going to lie. But I'm fine without it now, I replaced smoking weed with working out.

>>130726800
Easily manipulated by what, bettering myself?
You should try it out sometime.
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Weed is addictive if you let it be.

Some people will be very susceptible to becoming addicted to weed and others will find it easy to just do it whenever they like and avoid it on conscious command.

More times than not, I'd say the average weed smoker will continue to smoke for quite some time because they want to do it, however they will not be punished if they decide or are faced with the need to quit.

At most you'll think, "man, it'd be great if I could go smoke one right now", but it's incredibly easy for that want/thought to disappear.
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>>130727180
Because you have zero willpower.
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>>130726275

its extremely addictive once you are conditioned to it

it does not take much to become "conditioned"


literally everyone i know who smokes weed spends all their money on this shit. they will sacrifice all other luxuries to support their weed habit if they are not richfags.
they sit there in this deluded state like zombies, occasionally hacking up a lung which is the only time they actually seem alive
so many people do this shit.
yet supposedly its not a problem

meanwhile, nobody i know is an alcoholic or spends any significant amount on alcohol.

there is a reason why alcohol is legal and weed is still illegal (states do NOT override federal authority)
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>>130726275
medfag: it's not physically addictive on a purely physiological basis. it won't cause withdrawals that are associated with opiates, alcohol or benzos. it is however, psychologically addictive, in the same way sex, vidya, gambling etc is.

also:
>dindu flag
>this thread
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Why don't you anti-weed faggots deal with your internet addiction first before knocking my nations official pass time.
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Life feels hollow and empty without for me these days, I genuinely struggle to feel proper empathy until I smoke.
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>>130726275
It forms a habit. You don't go through physical withdraws. Some people may experience mental withdraw.
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>>130727450
If only I had the willpower to kill myself eh?
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>>130726275
it isn't though. i honestly found masturbation to be a hell of a lot more addictive during the time i smoked
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>>130726275
Everything that feels good is addictive and indulging in a vice doesn't make you a weak person. I get addicted to food (especially when I just smoked a bowl) and I'm the opposite of a fatass.
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>>130727450
Because life is depressing and people just want to feel good again.
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>>130726275
My ass it's not addictive, I've been spending the last few weeks cutting back slowly so I can actually eat without getting high first. I'm honestly glad I'm soon going to be in a situation where I have 0% chance of being able to get weed, having it around you everywhere makes it impossible to completely quit.
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>>130727180

they had this bitch on the hollywood sign at one point

still remember seeing her stupid ass everyday
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>>130727423
>but it's incredibly easy for that want/thought to disappear

That's what happens with weed related memory loss
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>>130726275
It's not physically addictive. It has no addictive properties in it's chemical makeup. You can only become addicted to cannabis if you are mentally weak and easily succumb to wanton desire.
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>>130726275
No, the mental state is addictive. It's not chemically addictive like something that will give you withdrawal syndrome.
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>>130727502

>there is a reason why alcohol is legal and weed is still illegal

Yeah, because it puts half of the pharma racket out of business.
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>>130726275
>No one has ever died because of marijuana

Also a lie. Driving while high has caused a shit ton of deaths. Fun fact: in Washington and Oregon police officers aren't allowed to include in their departmental reports that a car accident death or car vs. pedestrian death involved the driver being under the influence of marijuana. Really makes you think.
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>>130726619
Why not prove to YOURSELF that you can actually quit? It may be easy in your mind to quit but some things are easier said than done. So, go at it. See if you really can quit you ADDICT
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>>130727387
>ancap
Why haven't you moved to Somalia yet, nigger?
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>>130726781

Haha same
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>>130726275
>MFW I see a pot head having an anxiety attack because he didn't smoke in 2 hours
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>>130726275
It's psychologically addictive but not physically which is why people say it's "not addictive". You can get addicted to it, it's just not that big a deal since it's not the same tier of addictive as other drugs.

You won't find a homeless burnout pissing on the slides in park playgrounds because of weed, no, he might have started with weed but it was his choice to continue on to harder stuff that turned him that way.

t. leaf who bought the whole shtick and spent a few years smoking weed and understands its purpose as a low-risk conversation breaker (like what alcohol is supposed to be)
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>>130726866
No shit you retard
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>>130727777

Mostly because there's no way to prove level of intoxication with marijuana.

Bonds to fat cells for nearly a month.
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>>130726985
Dude, weed, lmao.......

You made this, correct? Fix your fucking spacing you fucking cancer fuck. Fix the fucking grammar. Actually, just fucking delete it and start from scratch, or better yet, let someone else who isn't a 7, or 8/10 or so on the Full-Tard scale. God damn. You make the case for legalization worse, with you complete shit grammar, bud. You are hurting the cause. You make degenerate pot smokers look even more degenerate and retarded, you dumb fucking cunt. Jesus fuck
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>>130726815
Pop might be chemically addictive to some extent. Or would that just be the caffeine? Anything else in there?
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>>130727696
Or if your need to smoke isn't overly powerful and doesn't stay on your mind as much because your dependency isn't as strong.
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>>130727777
This. Heavenly quads confirm.
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>>130727666
>so I can actually eat without getting high first

oh god i have this so bad
>I can eat this delicious fajita
>or i can smoke a bowl and eat this FUCKING ASTOUNDING fajita
>you win again, drugs
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>>130726866
>>130727787
Dear god you redditcucks are dense
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>>130727415
>easily manipulated by the herbal Jew
>easily manipulated by looser's propaganda
you are weak in will, looking for a mental crutch
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>>130726275
Weed isnt addictive now crack is addictive.
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>>130727450
if its not addictive then why does not buying/using it require willpower?
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>>130727656
>>130727564
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>>130727656
exactly, no willpower
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>>130727777

nigga filando castile died because he was high as fuck and literally couldn't understand the situation of his life being in immediate danger, nor could he understand the cop telling him numerous times to STOP
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>>130727922
>understands its purpose as a low-risk conversation breaker (like what alcohol is supposed to be)
dropped
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I do it for my anxiety. I have mental breakdowns if I go without for a day so it's actually medication. I never had bad anxiety before smoking weed though.
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>>130726275
Its not addictive. I quit for my new job no problem. Sure I'd like to smoke still, but I'd rather make more money than get high.
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>smoke weed every day while unemployed
>get job
>don't have time to smoke every day anymore, smoking after work is a waste of a high because i have to sleep early
>now only smoke on the weekends


its not addictive
also smoke weed every day
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>>130726275
Smoked on a 2-3 daily basis for over a year and a half, and then I quit it cold turkey when I started college. I had no withdraw symptoms, and my life continued regularly.

If you think weed is additive you are mentally weak and are looking for something to grow a dependency on. It's not the plant's fault your pathetic.
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>>130728095
Food is addictive too, it doesn't mean you should stuff your face full of sugar and fats all day.
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>>130727656
This is probably the leading cause of most drug addiction. I don't honestly think most people who abuse drugs are like "dude I just want to lay around and be a worthless shit lmao", I think it's more along the lines of "my life is shitty and painful and I need some way to escape from this existential nightmare".
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By addictive they mean physically addictive you autistic faggot
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>>130727745
wow you must know alot about pharmaceuticals and have read real articles which suggest weed has any curative properties.
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>>130727976
Yeah. Sugar and corn syrup.
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>>130726275
Its not addictive, i used to smoke every day for over a year than stopped because it got boring. Now i do crack.
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>>130728033
I'm bad. Unless what I'm eating is top notch I will gag and sometimes throw up without smoking
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>>130726275
what? it literally isnt addictive. let me guess, you crack and heroin arent addictive?
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>>130728161

Maybe you should nut up and stop your cycle of anxiety?
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>>130726275
but its not addictive. anyone with even a small amount of familiarity of weed knows this
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>>130728145
weed doesn't do that to you unless you're a 17 year old smoking your first time
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>>130726275
My dick is addictive but they ain't ban it yet.
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>>130727233
lol we WILL.
>makeslifemorefun
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>>130728208
ok, so you're agreeing that its addictive? what are you saying here?
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>>130726700
your a nigger, its in your genes to smoke that shit, its with you for life
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>>130726700
I dabbed 1g- 3g daily for about 7 years straight. my brother is a MMJ vendor in commiefornia, so I had all the weed I wanted to smoke. took me about 6-9 months for weed to fully leave my system. moved to arizona and quit smoking weed 1 year ago, so far I dont miss the herbal jew.
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>>130728055
>redditcucks
redditcucks are the type of people that are addicted to vapes and marijuana and feel the need to smoke that garbage everyday. What a weak bastard you are. Stay a nigger, NIGGER
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>>130726275
People get their dosage all wrong. 1/20 gram mixed with marshmallow/ skullcap/ damiana/ personal favourite is all you need. Six times a week.
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>>130728273

You have stomach cancer most likely.
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I have generalized anxiety disorder and smoke all the time. I wonder if weed makes my anxiety worse or if it suppresses it.

I know weed is inherently degenerate and I should stop. Is weed bad for anxiety?
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>>130727450
>diet coke
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>>130728273
ok yeah you have me beat pretty good then.
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>>130726275
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1227
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>>130726700

A month.
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>>130727553
Have you smoked pot before, to the state that one could be considered "addicted"?? I certainly have. And I assure you, there IS physical addiction. Unless, loss of appetite, and inability to sleep, are mental things. Granted, these only lasted a week to two weeks. Then I was back to normal. There is certainly 100% physical addiciton. It is just very minor and subtle and really easy to get through. The mental aspect of feeling like everything is god damn fucking boring and dull as shit is more profound.

Legazlie and tax the shit for fucks sakes. Money makes the world go round.. Lets get it going a little bit rounder a little bit faster. Build the wall with pot money I don't give a fuck.
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>>130726275

Smoked daily since 2000 except when out of the country or on a business trip.

Not physically addictive...just mentally.

Plus the shits legal now in WA so that makes it a little better, right?

I do miss the illegal part though...
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>>130728333
We will.
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>>130728581

You have to exercise though, if you don't it'll stay in your fat cells for quite a while.
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>>130728419
I never said it wasn't.
It's just such a weak addiction that it's really easy to mentally overcome it. Unless you lack the willpower.
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>>130726275
A little self control goes a long way!
>sees flag
>blm
Oh who am I kidding?
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Smoked it every day for 6 years, quit for 2 now smoke a quarter ounce every other month, don't get any withdrawals, so how is it addictive?
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>>130726275
>addictive
>implying
I just smoked last night I don't want to get high I'd much rather spend my money on cigarettes if I want something addicting which I'll probably go do
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>>130726275
>tfw one month clean from the herbal jew
feels good having a clear head
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>>130728273
Holy shit get help thats no good youre going to die
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>>130726275
Marijuana damages you Brain.

Weed causes Brain Damage
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i been smoking for 20 years i aint addicted
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Hey it's one of those threads where people hate something they've been conditioned to hate. Smoked for fucking ever, cold turkey broke it to serve this great country, got my honorable and 214, now I smoke good bud everyday. Your tax money allows me to do this.
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>>130727656
life isnt depressing though, only if you perceive it as that
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any substance or activity that directly triggers the brain to release dopamine is going to be addictive, which is why everyone here keeps dancing around the term addiction by putting a divide between physical/'psychological' addiction.
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>>130728496
I am trying to master weed to extract maximum benefit with minimum side effects. I would like to learn about weed shamanism. I go to work high every day and still function well. If you know what you're doing, which means you smoke when you are stable, you will only have weed helping your anxiety. I have my biggest instability when I quit smoking weed for a week or so. I go into reverse-high paranoia and it's always a nice eye opener as I move into the next cycle with that wisdom. Weed is a spiritual drug imo.
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The withdrawals are nothing like opioids or alcohol. I'll admit that people use it very heavily and have trouble adjusting to sober life but as people are saying that is psychological.

Real addiction is thinking you can go a day without the drug then finding yourself in extreme physical discomfort and pain that pulls you back to it. That then creates a relationship where you fear the drug, know exactly how bad it is and you're trapped in an abusive relationship with it until it kills you or you break free. It's entirely different but I understand it is hard to tell from an outsider perspective. You see people abusing the shit out of the drug and draw the obvious conclusion but reality is that those people would have to be incredibly weak willed to not adapt if you took the weed away from them.
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>>130728155
Other than people who apparently only get relief from their very real illnesses from weed, what other purpose does it have? Give two people who don't really know each other that well a joint and a funny TV show, odds are they'll become friends same as how giving two people a bottle of alcohol would most likely result in the two of them getting a little more acquainted.

Also you waited until finishing my post to drop it? You still read and seem to agree with the rest of it anyway so what's the point lol
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>>130726700
The worst withdrawal effects are over within 2 days. Within 2 weeks lingering withdrawl effects are gone.

Withdrawal effects include depression-like effects: lack of motivation, absence of pleasure seeking, sleep disturbances, possible sexual dysfunction, anxiety etc.

Naturally if you're treating an underlying depression this makes it worse.

Buproprion is an antidepressant that has similar action (without the recreational 'side effect') as marijuana if you're treating an underlying atypical depression.
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>>130728854
>I'm not addicted I just have to smoke all the time but there was one time I didn't so it's not addictive
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>>130728854

>Your tax money allows me to do this.

Fine with me, you earned it.
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>>130726275
What weak faggots are actually crippled by weed? I can smoke a shitload in a few weeks and then have absolutely none for the next year. There's no withdrawal. There's no desire for it stronger than playing a video game or some other mundane activity. Anyone that actually calls it addictive probably has a sad life to begin with and shit tier discipline.
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>>130728768
Nah man I'll be fine I just buy more expensive and better tasting food when I'm not smoking.
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>>130726275
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>>130726275
Certainly not addictive to me. I smoke occasionally and have gone months without it with no issues, without even thinking about it. Takes me a year to smoke an eighth though, that's an exceptionally low amount.
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>>130728931
I dont have anxiety, nor do I smoke too often, but I'm glad that some one else sees weed as a spiritual drug, getting up there with shrooms(tho not nearly at that level)
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Haven't had some in quite a while, I will have some next weekend and then again after I will go without it for a while.
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>>130728594
the problem is once it goes full legal the average weedman goes full nigger like they have even in massachusetts.

people smoke the shit around little kids in parks, outside of the movie theaters and malls, you cant walk your dog at night without the entire fucking neighborhood reaking like shit because 3 houses out of the 100 have turned into nigger porchmoneys without decency now that its legal

im not saying yes or no on the legalization question either way, but i am saying its not as easy as you make it seem. a lot of regular things change for the worse because the subhuman weedmen dont need to hide anymore
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Marijuana is as addictive as fast food desu

Crack, heroin, benzos, alcohol .... Thats drug addiction
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>>130727387
This
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>>130728983
Yeah I had to drop you for your disrespect and thoughtlessness of that remark. Weeds is way more useful than to just initiate conversations. That's more of an abuse of weed than a use.
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>>130726275
I can't say for sure that it has any addictive properties, but I have a friend who literally cannot function without it. He gives up half his paycheck for it, calling it a hobby or a "pasttime". He could be living so much better and even have his own house and car from having a better job, but he refuses to work anywhere where they drug test so he can keep smoking. The only people I've known who smoked have all been like that, but hey that could just be anecdotal.
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The Drug Warriors in this thread are funny. They have sad lives themselves so they want to interject into my awesome life where I work a stable job and come home and get high every now and again. Why does it bother you that I have an edible and chill in the privacy of my own home? I'm not hurting anyone, so why do you care and why do you feel like it would be morally good to sic the police state on me over it?
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Any fellow Canadians use Mom's? Got some high quality extracts and distillates coming in tomorrow :)
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>>130727794
You didn't answer his question, faggot. He's right, too.
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>>130729029
>mentiong antidepressants

you deserve to be treaded on
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I find the affects psychologically of weed to be quite bad. As in it permeates every activity and smothers it in hazy lethargia.
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>MARIJUANA IS WHY I'LL NEVER FIND A WHITE WOMAN TO FUCK ME
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>>130729447
I use Moms all the time, in fact I just got done with yours.
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>>130726529
I'm high like 90% of the time I'm here, it's comfy
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>>130726861
Bull shit. It's terrible for your reward system. And for your brain in many ways, and it is absolutely addictive. Stop mis informing people. You wanna smoke it go ahead, but don't shill for it when you haven't done the research.
Decreased dopamine brain reactivity in marijuana abusers is associated with negative emotionality and addiction severity

"Marijuana abusers show lower positive and higher negative emotionality scores than controls, which is consistent, on one hand, with lower reward sensitivity and motivation and, on the other hand, with increased stress reactivity and irritability. To investigate this aspect of marijuana’s impact on the human brain, we compared the brain’s reactivity in marijuana abusers vs. controls when challenged with methylphenidate (MP). We found that marijuana abusers display attenuated dopamine (DA) responses to MP, including reduced decreases in striatal distribution volumes. These deficits cannot be unambiguously ascribed to reduced DA release (because decreases in nondisplaceable binding potential were not blunted) but could reflect a downstream postsynaptic effect that in the ventral striatum (brain reward region) might contribute to marijuana’s negative emotionality and addictive behaviors."

http://www.pnas.org/content/111/30/E3149.short
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Also, by the rational they use to claim pot is addictive, you could call literally anything addictive, including things like playing video games, eating, even working out. It's having an addictive personality, not physical addiction to where if you don't have it you experience actual physical discomfort (i.e. Meth). You don't have to go through a detox program if you are "addicted" to pot. You do if you are trying to quit meth.
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>>130728775 >>130728770 >>130729672 >>130726275
Weed = Brain Damage
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>>130726275
I literally was not able to quit until I went full on reefer madness and assaulted a cop and other people and I was put in jail. Even after I got out it was very difficult.

Weed is very very addictive stay away kids.
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>>130726529
>It is addictive

"IT" is not addictive.
the feeling you get from it, might be addictive for YOU.

If not, then you are addicted to coffee, or sugar, or anything that triggers dopamine release.

Like anything, abusing it is bad.
The substance itself is not addictive.
OP is right, no gateway-drug bullshit, non of that, harmless psyche inducing plant that has medical properties.
Water can kill you too if you drink it too much.
absurd people thing like that in 2017.
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I have experience with long term use, long t-breaks, short breaks, forced breaks, probation, trying to quit, """relapsing"" for at least 6 years now

The people who think its good for you are wrong, and the people who think its bad and worth not raking in the tax money over are also wrong. At the end of the day weed is so soft physically but tight psychologically that it eers you into a lull. One that is comfortable and numb like.


moderation is obviously important, but after you pass the twilight zone the drug loses all its glory. A whole 6 months for a tolerance break only produced two nights where it felt like the first few times I smoked it. From then on, my tolerance shot back up to where it was the day I quit and taking a hit just gave me a headache now

I'm high right now, but comfortably, and all I'll say is that while it should be legalized, it should also be unbiased discussed and still not glorified on the same level as alcohol or cigarettes
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Pot is addictive. It might not give you withdrawals like smack or alcohol, but anyone who ever was a pothead knows that you will fiend for that shit
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>>130729868
bullshit study is bullshit, follow the money.
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>>130729480
I answered someone else who had a similar post, I don't have to repeat myself to pudgy, estrogen filled faggots.
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>>130729868
If you think the drug addicts in this thread can read that much text you are mistaken
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>>130727502
>(states do NOT override federal authority)
says the retard who supports sanctuary cities
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Yes it's addictive. I can't tell you how many potheads I've seen who couldn't stop smoking long enough to pass a drug test for a job interview. These idiots would rather work a shitty job that doesn't drug test than go a week without smoking weed. That said, it's only a psychological addiction. It's addictive in the way that MMORPGs are addictive. MMORPGs can consume your life if you're not careful. You'll want to log in every single day and you'll get antsy if you go a day without logging in. However, if you have to you can stop playing them for extended periods of time, and odds are one day you'll just decide you're not interested anymore and stop playing. Weed is the same way. It's addictive, but not in the way harder drugs are addictive.
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PS, scale of addiction + habit
least = 0 - 10 = most
Caffeine = 3
Nicotine = 4(cigarettes = 5)
Weed = 3
Coke = 4
Meth = 5
Ket = 2
LSD = 0
Shrooms = 0
Psychedelics in general = 0
MDMA/MDA/APBs/MAPBs = 2
4-FA = 3
Amphetamine = 4
Heroin = 9
Pyrovalerones = 6
Benzos = 9
Alcohol = 8
Pharma opioids = 8
Pharma opioids IV = 9
4-MMC = 9001 BEST FUCKING HIGH EVER
Spice = 4
Phenidates = 3 - 4
PCP = -10 - 10
MXE = 2
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1227
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>>130729939
You probably are just an unstable person in general.
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lol you pathetic faggots are just as bad as stoners

>LOOK AT THIS NEET FAGGOT SITTING AROUND SMOKING THE HERBAL JEW. AT LEAST MY NEETBUX REDPILLING MENTAL WEAKLINGS LIKE ME
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>>130728983
I agree with the person you responded to. yes, the drug can function as the way you say it can, and hell, its great at it too, but I think that weed is SO much more than just and ice breaker of sorts. If you use the drug with a proper mindset and have a goal in mind from your high, you can reach a higher plain of thinking and introspection with a more positive outlook. not to mention that for me it has allowed me to really reach a closer level with god (christian) and with the beauty of nature while im sober.

the little bit of text that I have just typed might seem like weedman pseudo science, but I hope that I gave you some food for thought when one uses the drug sparingly in order to increase their understanding of the self and their surroundings
also, I'm not a buzzkill, I will admit, one of the most fun high-times that I have ever had was with my wrestling buddies at HS
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>>130726529
>>130727032
>>130726800
>>130727387
>>130727197

so many fucking shills today, there is nothing wrong about being nat soc and renouncing degenerate behavior, you kikes and shitskins need to go fuck eachother or something.
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>>130726275
Totally addictive. Im trying to clean my system out, since I cant find anything since friday. I can go all day without a cigarette but will be in the worst mood if I dont smoke a bowl when I wake up.
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>>130728161
You need daily exercise instead of weed.
t. long time pot smoker doing the same
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>>130726275
>Dab every night
>Went out of the country for a few weeks and quit cold turkey.
>Tfw no problems except sleeping sucks without weed.
Just drank more.
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>>130729900
>>130728770
Weed only causes brain damage if your brain is still developing (25 years of age or younger)
http://m.pnas.org/content/109/40/E2657.full
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>>130729868
>Bull shit. It's terrible for your reward system

You must not generalize. It's not terrible for all of us. The average abusing teen who grows with that shit, fucks up his rewards system. substance itself won't do shit for an educated adult, even if he rips one each day.
endless evidence to this.
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>>130729939
UUhhUhhhhhHHHh
you probably have underlying mental problems my man, either that or you react horribly to the drug
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>>130729835
Yeah and you're probably young too. Your reward system diminishes in performance as you get older just like everything else. You blow out your reward system and you won't be happy that's for sure.
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>>130730131

Again, by this rational, you could literally call anything pleasurable addictive. That's entirely on the person. Some people have addictive personalities. Myself as an example, I do not have an addictive personality, so I can buy a week's worth of edibles, make it last for 2-3 weeks, and be perfectly fine not getting anymore for like 3 months. Some people can't do that, that's just life. That's no reason to make pot a schedule 1 narcotic.

I would hope, in an honest moment, everyone in this thread would agree that there's no logical reason for pot to be federally illegal.
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Weed is against my personal morals really because it takes no discipline or decision making. This is why many like it but I prefer the mindfulness of alcohol; how each time I drink I am making a decision to have the discipline to remain in control and not fall over a cliff. This doesn't exist with weed. It also doesn't exist with most other drugs as they have a similar but opposite effect of weed: if you take heroin for example there is no dicipline/mindfulness involved (that is beyond the decision to just not do it in the first place) as with weed but the outcome is terrible from the outset. Alcohol holds a unique position as the middle way (not to mention it's historic importance).

This also applies to meat: hunting, killing, and eating meat and realizing the tragedy, victory, sadness, joy, effect on the ecosystem, your own place in that system, etc. that is played out in this process is the true mindful way to live whereas a vegan diet allows a person to be totally frivolous, free, and unthinking in what they eat in a certain way.

Again these are (just two examples of) my personal ethics and morals and I am sure there are many points of debate against them.
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>>130726700
Try not being a little bitch. Works wonders.
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>>130726700
Be a good american and replace it with alcohol. Worked for me.
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>>130728170
its not addictive to you. By your logic one good tyrone makes all tyrones good bois. I know a lot of people that started smoking weed at high school and turned into human trash thanks to it
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>>130730773
nobody cares about your wall of text homo
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>>130730141
I feel like meth would be the most addictive from what I've heard. caffeine should also be higher than weed, I have trouble making it through the day without some tea or chocolate or something to keep me non-shaky lol
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>>130729368
We can point out how it helps people with real illnesses (like what I said first thing in >>130728983) but that doesn't change the fact that literally 80% of people, perhaps more, use it as they would use alcohol. They use it to make a situation a little more bearable, they use to to make food taste better, they use it to make a movie, cartoon, video game, or even a piece of music seem more meaningful. They don't use it for whatever "beneficiary" effects it has, that's mostly a morally justified excuse to partake as frequently as they want. How is using weed as a social lubricant an "abuse" of weed? Wouldn't someone be abusing weed every time they smoke a bowl just to make a pizza pocket taste better?
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>>130726275
it's not addictive.
i used to smoke 1 - 2 hits almost every day in college, but after I graduated I stopped completely and haven't went back; never experienced withdrawal.

weed is good for stress, but it tastes disgusting. unless your life sucks, i see no reason to form an addiction to it.
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>>130726700
It took me 3 months one time but that was when I was dabbing a gram every other day and eating a shit ton of edibles. My dad died and I just wanted to go to sleep for long periods of time without killing myself with sleep meds.
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>>130731061
Those people have addictive personalities. They'd take pain killers or alcohol and still be the way they are.
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>>130731061
It's not addictive to most users.
Come back to me when you've actually been addicted to something, ala alprazolam, hydromorphone, fucking alcohol, goddamn cigarettes, or MAYBE meth(which is tame compared to downers).
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>>130730773
>in control and not fall over a cliff. This doesn't exist with weed
>fall of cliffs with weed, be in control with alchohol.

I bet all those people who had a fatal car accident on weed hear that.
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>>130726815
Thank you for explaining, I'm tired of always doing it. It's addictive in the same way that gambling and pornography is. If you have a strong will, you can easily control your urges or quit.
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>>130730773
Of course there are points of debate against them because you can exercise mindfulness with weed and it is a bit arbitrary to value something based on whether you must be mindful of it to use it.
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Yeah it is adictive and yeah it does harm, my memory has not been the same after i started ti smoke, trying to quit it.
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>>130727502

Nicotine and Caffeine are more addictive and more expensive along with every other drug. If your friends are spending all their money on weed then they're just poor.
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>>130726275

who gives a shit if it is addictive, pussy is addictive you going to ban it?

end of the fucking human race you asshole
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>>130731394
Okay m8. I will come back to you and then what? what is your point?
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>>130731344

wow thats pretty sad, takes me 6 months to clear out but I smoke the really hardcore shit you can't get because you're a pleb
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>>130728463
literally just proved the dude's point lmao
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>>130726275
It's not addictive. I've been using it every day, multiple times a days for about 20 years and I'm not addicted
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>>130726619


Same. Currently on a weed break though for a couple weeks. Was smoking too many joints instead of vaping for pain relief so I need a lung break and remind myself to use my volcano.

OP is a fag. Just about anything can be addictive if it's at all entertaining.
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>>130726275
it's as addictive as anything else, only it actually does some good for some people

the rest just get stoned
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>>130726700


Depends how fat you are. I'm a bit of a fat cunt so it takes longer. I smoked two ounces over a couple weeks while on holiday at home in Canada with my childhood buddies. At the time I was working the mines in Western Australia. I pissed dirty for a month.
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>>130730141
>4-MMC
You know I do some crystal from time to time when the free samples are available (like once in 6 months, did some recently with friend and his gf), but I never buy it. Weed is much more addicting for me, I just bought some more hashish today (and I have a plant growing indoors) and I'm probably not even going to share it with friends since I'm too addicted. I keep buying hash right after I'm out of it.
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>>130731130
Meth is morish, but the crash/withdrawal are nothing. If you use it while getting nutrients and maintain your body a bit, the crash can actually feel better than the high as your sanity comes back. Then it's just a bit of meh for a few days.
Nothing compared to shit that can leave you feeling like you're in a living hell for over a year, like Xanax/benzos, or alcohol.
Or opioids which, while not fatal in detox, will make you hate everything and anything you can.
No stimulants, no weed, no tobacco can come close to downers. They're garbage drugs to get a habit to. Meth is hard to kick because it's kinda tame. There's rarely a motivated reason to stop using it because usage can be maintained in relative safety for a while unless you're a fucking goon.
The biggest trouble with stim addictions generally comes to those with family they begin to neglect.
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>>130731724
>literally just proved the dude's point lmao
how
and
>literally
>lmao
you're literally stupid lmao
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>>130731396

You missed the point completely if that is what you think "control" means in the context of my post.

The fact that you can smoke large amounts of weed without care/dicipline/mindfulness and drive (relatively) safely is an illustration of my point, not an argument against it.
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>>130730411
I agree with this as well. I've worked through a lot of bullshit that actually helped clear my head while smoking weed, and all because it helped me think in a more positive way.
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>>130726275
Mental addictions are more of a test to personal character rather than the substance. Learn some real control over yourself and its not a problem
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>>130726275
Been smoking pot for over a decade. It's mentally addictive if you are a weak minded person and fall for such memes. It may come off that way because your natural dopamine is less when you quit abruptly from smoking all the time. I would not recommend smoking if you're weak minded because it will then turn in to a gateway drug in my opinion. I only smoke because I am ADHD and it brings me down to everyone else's level. I only hit my pipe like once every few hours after work, never before because It makes most people lazy and even if it doesn't you cannot work as fast. I used to take high dosages of ritalin every morning, lunch, and dinner, which I never ate because the drugs made me not hngry and I felt like a zombie.

TLDR everything in moderation, if you cannot control yourself then don't do drugs of any kind.
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>>130726275
I know right. I smoked it for 4 years and quit recently.

It fucks with your mind and makes you passive and lazy.

My advice to you boys is, quit the grass and hit the brass. It's not hard, just tell your current dealer to fuck off and block their number.
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>>130726781
>tfw dealer is dry
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>>130731441
>It is a bit arbitrary to value something based on whether you must be mindful of it to use it.

Not really. Imagine of all things had no negative consequences (of course weed isn't exempt from negativity but for the argument it is the best way to outline the two sides). Some would find this fantastic and others terrible, that's why there isn't just one side to the argument but it is certainly a valid basis for (personal) ethical decisions.
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>>130732169
>because usage can be maintained in relative safety for a while unless you're a fucking goon
Really? Always thought this only applied to amphetamine aka Adderall/Vyvanse, meth is killing your brain at any dose higher than like a milligram or two, am I wrong?
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>>130726275

I smoke one or two times a week, usually after really hard work/gym days. Also when I go hunting - nothing like stalking game high as fuck.

It's called willpower pleb.

Oh yeah, was a 12P in the Army and make about 130k as an electrician while maintaining rental properties.

Get some fucking discipline faggot.
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This is dumb. Empirical science is not on your side you ignorant plebs. Marijuana is less addictive, and less objectively harmful to the human organism than alcohol. Cannabis has a million times the medical potential compared to alcohol as well.

TV is more addictive than marijuana, that's an obvious and observable fact. You people are retarded as fuck
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>>130726275
Bump. Forget the herbal jew.
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>>130732468
that's a weird looking dude over here
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>>130732760
game,set,match
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>>130726275
you're all such degenerates you make me sick
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>>130726700
I used to smoke literally every single day for 3 years. I would wake up and the first thing I would do is blaze. I was a full on NEET. I would get high before everything. If I was going for a walk, I would blaze, of I was going to play a game, I would blaze, if I was going to watch a YouTube video, I would blaze. It became such a habit I would literally freak out when I ran out of weed. If my dealers wouldn't reply back for the rest of the night and I was empty, I would smoke the ash. When the ash ran out, I would literally search every nook and cranny of the house for little specs of weed. I would take a flash light and search the floor, I would search places o thought weed might have fallen. I even resorted to going for a long walk around my city in the off chance I saw a weed dealer doing a deal so I could ask him for some.

I finally quit this January. And I have felt amazing ever since. Took about a month to feel completely clean. Bottom line, shit is addictinf
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>>130732977
You mocking me?
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>>130730607
Yes it is. Is it going to make you turn blue and od, no. But it absolutely has deleterious effect on the brain. I'm not saying smoking it now and again is the worst life choose someone can make, but habituating yourself to it is not advisable. I have to call it like i see it. I could post scores of studies.

Long-term Heavy Cannabis Use
"Cannabis users had bilaterally reduced hippocampal and amygdala volumes (P = .001), with a relatively (and significantly [P = .02]) greater magnitude of reduction in the former (12.0% vs 7.1%). Left hemisphere hippocampal volume was inversely associated with cumulative exposure to cannabis during the previous 10 years (P = .01) and subthreshold positive psychotic symptoms"
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/482744
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>>130728496
Weed intensified my anxiety by orders of magnitude. I never recovered.
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>tfw finally quit for 4 days
>roomate walks in my room
>throws a bottle with at least 3oz of delicious AK at me
I'm just a man...
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it's heavily psychologically addictive, but not physically. Just like falling in love and then breaking up with good gf is psychologically addictive and creates effects

I smoked 1.5 ounce every 2 weeks from 2014-late 2016, 1 ounce every month 2012-2014. Stopped in january and this is my longest time without weed since 2011(had gone 2 months about 2-3 times before that,other than that never more than 5 days)
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>>130726275
Your autism flows threw jew
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>>130732653
Don't quote me on this, but I believe that equivalent doses of amphetamine are more neurotoxic than methamphetamine.
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weed sucks anyways...after an hour I don't want to be high anymore and it just lingers for for another 4-5 hours.

I rather drink than smoke.
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>>130726275
Anything can be psychologically addictive.
Chinks will literally play video games until they drop dead.

What people mean, if they know what they're talking about, when they say cannabis isn't addictive is that it is not chemically addictive like nicotine.
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>>130732653
The neurotoxic effects are caused by oxidative stress. For a while =/= indefinitely. Possibly 6 months to a year of "heavy" use max, which isn't common outside of rare cases.
Most users tend to go for binges rather than habitual use, because binges bring the best effects while minimizing the negative effects. Habitual use of stimulants can quickly become pointless and counterproductive, almost like psychedelics which are actually anti-addictive in nature. Same thing sort of happens with the inbetweeners of psychs/stims, the empathogens. With the vast majority of users, the more MDMA they use, the less they want to use it.

The oxidative stress from meth can be mitigated for a while using antioxidants and keeping body temp as low as possible during use. Temperature is the main driving force in how the body reacts to stimulants in regards to damage. The body is like an engine. It needs to run cool, precise, with the right maintenance, to run fast. If more people knew this, problems from the stimulant and empathogen class of substances would be minimal.

Plenty of people use psychedelics, weed, stimulants, empathogens, and dissociatives without wrecking themselves. Same with alcohol, because it's an accepted drug, so it's easy to use safely.
Opioids and benzos are quite different. Especially opiods. There are few cases of recreational opioid users who end their usage willingly.
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>>130729309
Pot is a low-risk treatment for psychological wounds.
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>>130733845
Some people like it more than others,just like it effects people differently than others(some get anxiety etc). I never liked alcohol but loved,loved weed
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>>130733301
When I was younger I smacked my head on an I-Beam and lost feeling in my left arm momentarily. Later that night I smoked and lost feeling again, quit for an entire year.
>MFW it was that AK that got me back in to it.
Your still a fag for using that flag by the way.
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Marijuana leads to homosexuality and homosexuality leads to aids.
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>>130726275
Like many of the plants that mankind has found particular useful as medicine, cannabis was seeded here on Earth. Planted, for mankind’s benefit. - ZetaTalk
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The biggest lie about pot isn't that it isn't addictive, the biggest lie is that it doesn't have any negative effects long term

You fry your fucking brain on the shit. Every manchild autist I know with anger management issues smoked pot 24/7 as a teen

And of course it fucks your memory and reaction time
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>>130726700
no lies bro its absolute shit to egin with but persevere and you wont even want it i litterly smoked like 200£ of weed a week at a good rate had mental shit for say 6mnths when i stopped *was fuked up thinking shit was shit and i didnt like going outside or doing anything* luckily i saved enough money for that to be ok now i smoked weed like 3 times this ear you an do itits not fun or easy
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>>130726700
about a month
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>>130734554
>Not buying a quarter pound and smoking for free
This is why most people shouldn't smoke, no self control, an addictive personality and just plain retarded.
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>>130733982
That's not actually terribly inaccurate.
Not like stoners mean it with "self-medicating" whatever problems they have by smoking as a distraction, of course, but used in a clinical setting.

Ironically they've had success in using weed to treat addiction to more harmful drugs and not just as a replacement. They've also made progress treating people with fucked up brain chemistry from various disorders although that's doubly something that needs medical control and oversight since psychedelics can have the opposite effect if misused, basically "Activating" issues in people with a predisposition although luckily it's usually temporary.
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>>130726275
Its addictive but not like other drugs. If you actually did drugs you'd understand. Weed is like tobacco and if you dont smoke youre literally a faggot.
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>>130726275
Eat shit fascists, you have no say over my fucking body, I own myself.
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>>130734454
Habitual use of ANY drug, otc pharma or illegal recreational or otherwise, WILL fuck you up, at least for a while. No drug is safe for indefinite use. The body's natural base chemistry is how it likes to run long-term. Altering this causes deviancy in in receptors and protein systems.
No receptor/enzyme-activating/deactivating substance lacks this side effect.

Welcome to pharmacology.
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>>130734780
thinks im retarded ok burger bro gl with that and i am addictive thats very true but you should be scared of that because if beat you at anything you wanted to wage competition with im drunk atm buuuut the shit i said is legit its hard but i soked like a LOT of weed for years and was perfectly functioning had a good high paying high skilled job when i stopped though i had to re-write my nural chemistry im not jking dont take it litely but you can do it
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>>130726275
>>its not addictive
>biggest lie of our time right next to the holohoax

Nignog lacks self-control. What a shocking surprise.
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>>130726866
>being this new
Lurk more faggot
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>>130728060
It's *loser you fucking idiot.
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>>130726815
Sugar is chemically addictive.
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>>130728055
But Redditers are the ones that smoke weed and make excuses about it. How long have you been on pol?
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>>130734780
just seen the quter pund part i gre up with nothing but drug dealers and was a *drug lover* loool u get the hint very un incriminating and i got a good job because im smart immagine how much weed i got you quater pound and smoke for free is a litteral insult
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>>130726275
It's really not. I understand it's negative effects very well. But it takes a special kind of idiot to be addicted or use it like a crutch. I smoked a shit ton because I was in college. I was a chimney.

But usually it's idiots with poor money management or too much to spend. Weed is great but only in tiny doses. In excess you just get stupid and go to Valhalla for a few hours.
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>>130726275

true to my nigga
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>>130735243
Literally retarded gibberish, I had a laugh though so thanks.
>you should be scared of that because if beat you at anything you wanted to wage competition
I would destroy you.
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>>130726275

I used cocaine for a bit and ALMOST got addicted. Used marijuana many times, and finally wrote it off as useless, degenerate bullshit... but never felt any pull from pot that was remotely similar to cocaine.

Verdict... not addictive, but habit-forming for some people who use heavily.
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>>130733198
Correlation does not = causation.
This study doesn't prove that the brain deficiency was caused by cannabis, just that it occurred in a person who also happens to smoke cannabis. You guys try this a lot and it's just as much nothing now as always.
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>>130736132
pick somthing ill devote an hour a day and we can wage an online war of sme sort dont be a dick tho and play a loaded game lets learn russian =p im drunk but wreking you i would do not for enjoyment but for proof that you cant look past my small flaws and i would flaw you <3
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>>130736008
Can someone translate this for me?
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If you smoke marijauna, good luck having an intellegent thought that day
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Had it twice. Was fucking boring and just made you lazy. Never had it again.
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>>130736008
i smoked moreweed than you it will fuck yo u up try it
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>>130726529
Too bad /pol/ is more addictive
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>Used to smoke everday for several years
>decide it's not worth the money anymore and quit
>no withdrawls

It wasn't hard for me to quit which was cool.
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>>130728060
>easily manipulated by the herbal Jew
>hasn't smoked in 4 years
Wanna know how I know you're a nigger?
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you lose your appetite and have sleeping issues after you quit smoking weed. these effects on the body mean it functions differently without the substance, which means it's addictive.

anyone that disagrees is a liar cause this shit has happened to myself and every degenerate i've ever known
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>>130736577
>no withdrawals
Odd, I thought it was supposed to be addictive. Oh wait it's not the substance of the plant but of the person that causes ""marijuana addiction"". Thanks
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>>130726529
>trading an outside activity for an inside activity

You guys are complete garbage. Pic related
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>>130736754
>have sleeping issues
Maybe you should try working harder. If you're already tired you shouldn't have sleeping issues. Stop working at the mall to fix this.

>you lose your appetite
Not true, maybe for you but I ave never heard of this happening to anyone until now.
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>>130736981
if u smoke enough itl ecome part of youre brai chemistry please disprove me and if you cold turkey that shit you will have an imbllance prov eme wrong
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Itt limp wristed pussies with no real knowledge of smoke but plenty of outlandish opinions
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Most people are fucking stupid who have no self control and stupid people shouldn't smoke weed.
It's really that simple.
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>>130726275
>tfw when I've never tried drugs of any sort including cannabis
>tfw only tried alcohol
>tfw don't know if that's a good or bad thing
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>>130726275
This is absolutely true but there are many here who will REEEE at you because they can't admit it to themselves.
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Day 8 away from weed. 0 withdrawals, also day 7 away from nicotine (salt based e juice) also zero withdrawals from that. Don't know why nicotine breaks don't fuck me up, all my friends get withdrawals from the same juice. Any ideas Pol? Is my brain god tier?
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>>130737926
nicotine withdrawal is a myth
people THINK they are getting it because they have been told so
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>>130737926
you killed ur addiction centre with massive quantites of addictive habbit forming chems you will be shit at everything for the rest of your life because addiction is god tire #focused jk u didnt smoke to much or taperd well ur god tier
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>>130738168
normally itd get bigger but you had mild stroke lel =[ still oj
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>>130726275
its addictive but not a bad addictive
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>>130734780
I used to do this but with pounds, never paid for shit and made money. It was fun too at the time, felt like badass.
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>>130728946
weed addiction isn't real.

if i woke up one morning and didn't have $10 to go to the weed store and buy a gram of weed i wouldn't go break into cars or suck dicks until i had $10 i'd just not smoke weed.

however, i also like smoking weed and i'll never not have $10 to go to the store and buy a gram of weed.

therefore i'm gonna smoke weed every day.
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>muh weed
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>>130729549
>>130729029
>not knowing about CBD pills

i should boot both of you in the face
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when I've got the money to spend on it, I'm high pretty much all day every day. If for whatever reason I can't or shouldn't be smoking it takes a couple days to get passed the "man, i wish i was high right now" feeling and go back to normalcy.
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You guys should come to Portugal to see the state of our youth. Every fucking kid after 15 is smoking a hash joint in the early morning before school. It's a shame.
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>>130738804
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>>130736325
Nigga look at the P scores, they're all below .05, meaning they are statistically significant.
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>>130731468
Are you fucking kidding me? I can buy a shit ton of caffeine for like 10 dollars. And that would last months. I don't know anyone who can consume more than 1g of caffeine in a day without feeling bad.
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>>130738129
>>130738561
How so? I mean I can attest to it being a myth but could it be that it's not nicotine that's addictive, but the other chemicals in cigs? Vapefag so Idk

>>130738168

Is killing your addiction center a real thing? I would sign up for that desu
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>>130728946
sdtr8 bullshit i stopped sniiffing coke thats addictive i could get it for free as much as i wanted turned into week long "parties with girls i couldent fuck because i was s "wired" absolte hasstle that was * by smoking wee d i had 0 withdrawrals except for the weed when i stopped smoking weed chek my other posts
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>>130726866

leave
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>>130733198
Are the long-term effects irreversible if you have smoked for 6 years?
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ITT: smokers ironically memeing other non-ironic smokers

Also, for me personally, weed is as addictive as a good TV show. I don't have to watch it, but it's good and it's fun to watch it and I greatly enjoy it. I won't feel anything negative physically and I don't feel forced to watch it. I might be a little down because I wish I could experience that fun again, but I don't have to do it. I've been sober of anything for 6 months now and it's as easy as it was the first day. I mean I want to smoke, but I know I shouldn't because I have a good reason not to. When I'm able to do it again then I'll do it because it's fun. It's really as simple as that for me.
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>>130739488
non that iv notied except i did alot of drugs and have vastky different life expireances than othe peope around me in my field of work
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>>130726275
Repeat after me, psychological addiction isn't the same as physical addiction.
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I heard it gives you bitch tits. That's enough to scare me away.
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>>130739644
repeat after e bio chemistry is brain chemistry psychological is physical as my brain is a fuking organ
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>>130739765
its a lie but be scared rofl
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>>130738561
I wasn't saying I do this, he mention that he spent about 200$ a week on weed I think and the money made from a quarter pound would at least offset that.
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>>130726275
Former weed degenerate here

Shit is addictive.
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>>130726985
This is accurate.
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>>130726275
No more addictive than a cheeseburger, seriously.
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>>130739880
thinking $s are £s try 400$s
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I need some
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>>130734971

It's addictive.

>>130736981

It has withdrawals.

>>130737148

Maybe you should stop being an asshole to others.

>>130739644

There are physical addiction traits.

Regardless, it's addicting, you just admitted it.

>>130739555

Weed is an addiction. Don't make excuses for your addiction.

There are withdrawals regardless if you associate them yourself to weed, they are still there. Sleeplessness, Lack of Appetite, Headaches, Anxiety, Paranoia, Schizo-like tendencies, there are a multitude of them.
>>130739488

Paranoia and Anxiety, you can also lose long-term memory or be crippled with short-term memory and attention issues.
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>>130726275

Not physically addict but definitely physiologically. It's a good time and I miss it dearly, but got a job to keep and bills to pay.
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>>130737592
Thanks for clearing that up.
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I was addicted a couple times after chronic use, probably psychological, but addicted nonetheless. Exhaustion, cold sweats, depression, lasts about a day, then your'e fine, but was noticeable.

Also definitely alters your brain chemistry, I never felt the same after I popped my cherry.
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>>130740457

False. Stop spreading mis-information that the (((jews))) try to tell you.
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smoked often for like 4 years, got bad last 2 years. sober since nov 4 2016 feels good bros. fuck the leafy jew
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>>130740432
true buut you can also have non of theese long term afects anxeity ion the shiortterm for me however was EXTREME
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>>130726529

>smoke weed 5 times a day every day for 6 years
>instantly quit on finding /pol/

Sounds like it's not addictive if you can drop it so suddenly

I've smoked pretty regularly at a couple phases in my life for years at a time and at the moment I had a legit reason to quit, I quit for years cold turkey with no withdrawals.

I've recently started again after 6 years of being off it, I"m back on it for medical this time, and at first because I was trying new strains and stuff I was vaporizing it 1-2 times a day every day for a few months.. but now that I've found strains I like , I a lot of times skip 2-3 days in a row for tolerance breaks and just because I don't fucking feel like it.

If I was still on Hydrocodone for pain instead, we'd just be watching my tolerance creep up and I'd probably be using every day by now, getting addicted and probably dying in another year or so.
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>>130740432
>>130740432
Good bait

responses guaranteed
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>>130740457
Not physical, but physiologically.

Lol haha ex dee kill yourself
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>>130740268
>try 400$
OK, what I said would still apply then retard.

>Maybe you should stop being an asshole to others.
You thought I was being mean to you? Come on youngster, toughen up a bit and get and if you cannot get a stressful job then work out more after work. Just saying, you shouldn't get sleeping issues from pot, maybe from other things but not the weed.
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>>130726866

Quitting is easy, I've dropped it cold turkey twice for years at a time. all it takes is a real reason to quit like, joining the military, or getting a new job that tests for it, super easy no withdrawals for me, in fact, vaping high CBD strains recently too much gives me nausea in the morning, so I cut back now that I found strains I like to not get nausea. Isn't it funny how that works? It encourages you to use it less, not use it more which is kind of the opposite of addiction.
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>>130741141
how small are you bags i work in grams 1 8th = 3.5grams whats a pound in grams 200£ is like 56 grams 2 ounces
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>>130740477
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. Ya, I didn't want people getting the wrong idea, I do use but I do not advocate using it considering how weak people are. It's a very unfortunate thing really, I wish men were stronger (no homo).
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>>130726275
Maybe not addictive but its toxic.

It's also degenerate
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It's basically addictive in the same way TV and video games are addictive.

"I CAN quit, I just don't WANT to".
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>>130741382
weed is fine when you are on it it just sucks if you stop
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>>130728248
are we distinguishing weed from cannabis oil here?
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>>130726275
>>130726529
>smoke for 3 years
>hmm maybe I should stop because it's not healthy
>stop buying it
>have no cravings or anything, just never touch it again

It's non-addictive.
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>>130741266
thats also a huuuge discount
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>>130741266
>Cannot into Maths
First off I don't fucking sell drugs you nigger.
Second, math is not hard.
Pay 725 for a 112 grams
Sell 16 20$ bags at 1.8
Earn 320
x4
1280
Minus 725
Equals 555
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>>130741984
ahhh i see were we diverge i aslo have never sold drugs thats how much "smoke" i got
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>>130726866
Are you an addict?
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>>130731684
>Tryng to argue with a methead
You're doing it wrong, starless chile
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>>130741984
also enjoyed the math no matter how fucked up you are its important to remember numbers and know what they mean <3
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>>130742118
You could subtract what you smoke and still profit.
>i see were we diverge
QPs cost more in your area desu?

>i aslo have never sold drugs
I used to sell QPs in twenty bags and smoke an ounce for free when I was like 16, over a decade and a half ago.
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probably as addictive as coffee can be
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>>130742714
im simmilar but i smoke my profit 2oz a week

will never forget morning bj witha spliff and midnight slush pupprys witha fuckoff iv fuked you like an hour ago
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>>130742851
I don't know if you're memeing but coffee is an institutionalized addiction.
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>>130742714
and ye costmore but not by much normie pays waay moer but i payed like 400 for 725 for ur match at 725 a normine is like wayy over 1k english
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>>130730433
Agreed, fuck religion
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>>130726275
Either you are retarded or this is bait.
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>>130742893
#dont touch me when somebody touches you and you freak out thats how you know your high or the ocashional voice in your head when you go to sleep rofl scary af all that stops if you stop
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