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Can anyone explain (without being rude) how this wouldn't make for a fairer society?
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it's exactly like star wars when harry was being monitored by his tv
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>>130668270
>liberals can't make analogies that don't involve some kind of media
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>>130668270
no aspect of the natural order is fair

"fairness" is a purely human construct that exists nowhere else in nature
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>>130668412
I never realized this before, but it's true.
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Mario cart is the worst game around

>Battle into first place using good technique and nice passing moves
>Out in front about to cross the line
>Some faggot launches some shitty attack they were awarded by chance
>You sit there and watch as the competition flys by

Fuck marioshart, fuck Nintendo and fuck your commie dogshit.
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Mario Kart's "the more skilled you are the further you get ahead, the further you get ahead" system is an ideal model for how our economy should work
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>>130668270
"It's not fair" - like any lefty would take this as an argument
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>>130668270
But this isn't fair at all. The first place probably spend a lot of time playing mario kart and really loves this game while his casul friends and family aren't even trying and thus don't deserve 1st place.
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>>130668270
ohhhhhhhhhhh
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>>130668270

I play Mario Kart a lot.

The funny thing about this idea to me is how it's inevitably going to be received by different categories of Mario Kart players.

Good players who typically finish first understand that this idea is ridiculous because it means you can be fucked out of a perfectly legitimate victory which you earned through real effort and practice by literally ANY retard in the race.

Bad players love it because they can be that retard, and because they're bad players and have never won a race, they don't understand that the point of the game is to win - not to cause someone else to lose.
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>>130668270
That's why it's called "Mario Kart" and not "Kart Simulator 2017". I don't see any italian plumbers or monkeys (kek) running the country.
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>>130668270
because i assume this will only apply to white people who live in the west
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>>130668270
Those being ahead would quite trying, since no matter how hard they do, they can't improve their lot anymore. And those people who already are ahread, tend to be the most productive people we have, i.e., the most productive people we have will lose their productivity. I'm sure that wouldn't be a problem at all. Read about kulaks, if you want to understand why this is retarded.
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>>130668270
>I deserve a Bullet Bill, but I'm not willing to put in the effort and skill required to get first place.
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>>130668270
it rewards mediocrity and failure, while punishing people for being successful
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Disadvantaging more capable people isn't fair.
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>>130668270
Simple, those with skill and effort make it to first place, only to get fucked at random by some cunt who's too retarded to figure out which direction to drive without the cloudy thing bitching at them.

12th place blueshells 1st place, and the 2nd place driver takes 1st and wins. The original 1st is now left in the dust, probably several places behind, simply because he was too good for the rest to keep up with.

This is what affirmative action looks like.
THIS is not fair.
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>>130669276
By the way, how much money on yeahbanero-bells being male?
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>>130669298
^^^pretty much this
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>>130668270
Well the karts at the front actually reach the powerups first, and can take all the boxes leaving none for the people close behind.
Giving the people at the front a blue shell is pointless, they are in the front anyway.
'Lesser' powerups usually just means mushrooms and traps for people behind.
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>>130668270
This is exactly why Mario Kart is an overrated game. There's no point in even trying to try to get ahead until the last lap. Just hang back and get gibs and wait for the opportune time to fuck the leader over.

Give me Wave Race 64 any day of the week.
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And the blue shell is affirmative action?
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>>130668270
Isn't that system the biggest complaint that everyone has with Mario kart? It's pretty much the one thing people hate.
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>>130668270
>Can anyone explain (without being rude) how this wouldn't make for a fairer society?

Because society is much more complex than a Mario Kart game. There is no way to implement it that does not involve very arbitrary definitions set by bureaucrats on how to make it harder for people that are ahead, how to define who is ahead.

What happens then is called regulatory capture. Only very big companies and very wealthy can afford to hire lawyers/accounting firms to coply with all the regulations. The people that are poor find it harder to make money, as the never ending regulations make everything expensive, so welfare state becomes more appealing.

Therefore, in the end, people that are ahead get even furher ahead, and people below have less motivation and incentives, and find harder obstacles as well, but people that suggest Mario Kart like strategies do not percieve it to be so, requesting more and more intervention, leading to more inequality, as in a vicious cycle.
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>>130668270
bigots! 11 million jews died in the holocausts and you want to gas the blacks!
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>>130668270
Because in real life you get an assassin's bullet for being in first place or an army invades your country and reduces it to rubble, not a slap on the ass that makes you slow down so the losers can catch up.
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>>130668270
wtf i love rubber band ai now
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>>130670000
>11 millon
More like 11 quadrillion you nayzee
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>>130670000
It's 20 million nowadays you fucking racist.
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>>130668270
Because like Mario kart it will turn your society into an uncompetitive socialist piece of shit.

This is just an attitude for losers. I'm not first, so let's punish those who are. They wouldn't feel that way if they were ahead. Pathetic.
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>implying "1st place" is quantifiable in a society with hundreds of millions of people

And these retards think they're smart.
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>>130668412
>>130668730
Dumbledore warned me about evil wizards like you
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>>130668270
Why do you want a fairer society?

It'll fuck up evolution and everything that made humans great.
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These people have probably never been successful in life and just want a shortcut (blue shell, bullet bills, stars & lightning bolts) to reaching a better position. Get good at the game and then you'll be complaining that the system isn't fair. Being at the top, EVERYONE is against you for being BETTER than them.

Gibs me dat blu shell.
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>>130670000
last time i went to Auschwitz they were still burning innocent jews.
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>>130668270
I just read this out loud to my FUCKING A WHITE MALE and he said hurr durr me dumb dumb women smart me just get it now!!
Then he said for his white fucking a male white friends to sit down. Be humble.
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>>130668270
Because it punishes people for learning the fastest paths and timings, and rewards those who fall off the map five times. That is what is actually unfair.
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>>130668270
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Bitch is basically saying that if I invest more time and effort in achieving and being more financially secure than the majority of the population that bec you haven't you deserve more... for being a fucking dummy/lazy/etc.
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>>130668270

But in Mario cart, when you are in the middle of the pack, everyone is ruthless and trying to destroy you.
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>>130668773
Your strategy should take into account the fact that you will get blue shelled if you're out in front for too long. Stay in second place, close behind the leader. Keep a green shell on hand to knock out objects targeted at you.
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>>130668270
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>>130668270
>tfw you become successful through hard work but it only lasts for a couple of days before somebody blue shells you 3 times putting you at the very back with nothing and justifies it by saying you were part of the 1% who didnt earn anything and so life in society is perpetually challenging and full of hardships where no goal is even remotely worth working towards because it will only get taken away from you almost immediately and so production grinds to a halt while all the stupid kids thinking it was a good idea swim in their big money pools that used to be worth millions but now are only worth 2 dollars and 25 cents as the dollar has collapsed with china invading the west and east coast
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So what incentive would there be to work hard and get to first place???
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>>130668270
desu i just assumed they meant that the higher your income then the higher % you pay in taxes, im not sure how else to interpret what theyre saying
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>>130668270
That's how it worked in ancient times. But the same government that protects SJW faggots feefees is the same government that keeps me from going up to my neighbor and raping his wife and stealing his car that I am envious of.
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>Mario Kart
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>>130668270
>I am not winning so no one else can
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>>130668362
FPBP
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>>130668270
Is this why hoodlems always get bullet bill?
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>>130668270
The more successful you are the less money you make? So the highest paying jobs would be the least skilled? That wouldn't last long.
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>>130668270
>Fairer
>Handicapping people who are ahead
Really makes me think
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>>130668626
so are 'morals'
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Mario Kart is a closed system that is administered by impossibly efficient software (by human standards). Scaling up such a system to human society would consume more resources than it could provide.

Also, fucking statists.
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>>130668270
>blue shell the 1%
I remember exactly how often the blue shell fucked me and let my retarded brother win.
That analogy made me hate socialists even more.
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>>130668270

More like give niggers unfair advantage when theyre in last place to suddenly place first with a broken power up.
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ITT delusional kike worshippers demonstrate their belief that the monetary system is some kind of tangible resource that you pull out of the ground and not some system top kikes designed to force them into a lifetime of meaningless labour while they claim ownership over the entire world leaving you with nothing to aspire to but buying the latest call of duty weapon skins.
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>>130668270
It literally rewards failure and punishes success. What's the fucking point of trying to make a bunch of money if I know that the government is just going to take like 70% of it away if I make 'too much'?
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>>130668270
Haha ayyyo fuck freedom lmao XD
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>>130668270
This is how things work now. The more you do, the less gibs you receive.
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>>130668270
It kind of already works like this. Except this individual is approaching it from the wrong angle.

>be in 7-12 place
>items are heavy and do a lot of damage to the people around you making it extremely volatile

>6-2
>items are more appropriate for racing and not just for fucking shit up

>1st place
>items ensure you are safe and the only thing that can stop you is someone who outplayed you or some act of god (blue shell)

Libs are honestly just lazy and want everything handed to them like usual. They can not and will not understand hard work and dedication at this time
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>>130668270
Pyramid scheme. Just have those guys in last place support you in return for some shekels.

As long as greed is a thing, this system can't work.
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>>130668270
kill yourself
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>>130668270

It, in theory, would make easier for competition to grow, preventing monopoly/oligopoly.
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>Not being Waluigi
>Not experiencing WALUIGI TIME all day, every day

WAAAAAAAAAA
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>>130668412
LEFTISTS NOT LIBERALS YOU FUKING CUNT
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>>130668412
>can't

media analogies are an effective way to communicate an Idea and create interest. The Mario cart analogy is the reason why that tweet has gained so much attention.

>>130669298

I do agree with this though. But I'd like to point out that the continuation of the Mario theme makes the point much more interesting and therefore better than simply explaining it in a matter of fact way.
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>>130668270
>hey lets instate a system that everyone hates in our government, because we know nothing about either
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>>130668270
Constantly fighting to stay ahead is not something that anyone wants to do.
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>>130671036
hmm indeed. what IS the point of making a lot of money. It's almost like it's been proven time and time in the literature that above a certain low dollar value, additional material wealth does not improve life quality; family, personal achievements, will-exertion etc.

it's a weird coincidence that the absolute object - (((money))) - of all you capitalfags is the one that the jews control. almost like you were tricked.
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>>130668270
There is no such thing distinct 'power up' and 'place' in real world. So what it says is:

>the richer you are the poorer you should get

Which is self contradictory.
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A better thing to wish for would be to wish that life was more like a loot factory game. There's ample resources for everybody to go around. Some ultra rare valuable loot available for some lucky and/or particularly dedicated people as a bonus to make things more interesting but overall everybody who plays the game and at least puts in a bit of effort gets good enough loot to progress through the game. There's no reason for them not to.
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>>130668270
Well, would you consider Mario Kart to be a serious, fun racing game?

No? Just something for kids? There you have your answer.
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> poor people need more benefits!

> proceed to abuse the fuck out of the system
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>>130671457
Except that's nature faggot. In nature if an animal hoards way more than they need they attract challengers and risk losing it. Whereas our system is designed to create unbreakable monopolies. To shield hoarders from challenge.
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>>130671525

Either that or

>Poor people should randomly recieve billions

Which doesnt provide jobs or competition since that money will likely be spent on drugs and cars
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>>130668270
This is why:

http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html
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>>130671609
Even Gran Turismo had internal handicapping to make the races closer. If you find winning on god mode exciting you are an autistic pile of garbage.
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>>130668270
>Can anyone explain (without being rude) how this wouldn't make for a fairer society?
by annihilating the 1%... how can you be that dumb anon?
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>>130668270
The economy isn't strictly zero sum. Mario style power-ups don't let the guy in last become first, they just let the guy in last fuck over the guy in first and have an impact on the game that isn't winning. In gameplay terms this makes even being behind 'fun' in a sense, as you have something to do, but that fun is built around spite and if you just wanted to win the powerups aren't going to make up for your lack of skill, they're just going to tear down those better than you and let those slightly less better than you come out ahead.
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>>130668270
No, nobody should get powerups.

Powerups shouldn't exist, then the only thing seperating people will be their skill
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>>130668270
the issue is, unlike mario kart they also want the one who ends up in the first place to lose too
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>>130671912
Final Destination. No Items. Fox Only.
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>>130668270
Real life isn't a race where you win by becoming 1st and finishing 1st. There's no finish.
So when you get 1st place and people keep destroying you and getting in your way of being #1, eventually you're going to step out of the 'race' with all the traits, skills and possessions that made you #1 and stop bothering.
When all the top dogs have vacated the venue and all that's left is the impoverished and untalented, they will start using these methods against each other.

Everyone loses.
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>>130671524
That's not my point. My point is that if the government is just going to shit all over my hard work once I succeed enough, then what's the point in trying in the first place? It takes away the most basic incentive to work hard; to be able to provide for yourself and your family, and give your children a better life. Why should someone who does no work receive money for their lack of effort, but someone who puts in a ton of effort has their money taken away in greater quantities as a result?

It's like if a group of 3 men go on a hunt, and the one who put in the least effort gets the biggest share of the meat for his family. Why shouldn't each man put in as little effort as possible to ensure he gets a bigger portion of meat? But then with all of them putting in little to no effort, they don't even get the deer and all starve to death.
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News flash, most people hate that in Mario Kart and get frustrated by it.
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>>130670638
>not taking the red shell
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>>130668270
NO!

People shouldn't get punished for being successful.

People shouldn't get rewarded for failures/fuck ups/laziness/etc...
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>>130668270
no, your parents work hard so you can go to college and work hard. you should not be penalized for working harder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tACU5aKqMIo
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>>130668270
It's almost like working hard and actually get good pay off somehow
Also fuck welfare drafters
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Slowing down the people in the front doesn't make anyone in the back move faster. Equity is a concept for mental infants who only think about things in terms of "WAAAHHHH THAT GUY HAS MORE THAN ME". The fact is that if you don't drag the people down at the top, they'll move faster and you'll be able to ride the draft they create to a faster speed yourselves. I'd rather be a "poor" guy in a rich society than a "completely equal" guy in a poor society.
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>>130672094
you aren't understanding what I'm saying. Additional money above a certain amount does not improve life satisfaction - that includes the satisfaction of providing for your family. Working isn't free - you are exchanging your time for money, and sometimes the use-value of that time would be higher doing something else.

the answer to your question of why an excessively hard-working person should have their money taken away - they are acting (literally) irrationally, and producing more value than is necessary to their own detriment. They should be corrected like any other mono-focused autist.
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>>130671422
Liberals are leftists. Where the fuck have you been?
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>>130668270
Can anybody explain why a fairer society is desirable?
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>>130668270
It already does work that way for government benefits (Items not "Power-ups") to individuals. We just need to make it work that way for government benefits to businesses as well.
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>>130672094
Except in reality when you're talking about the highest of the high in society you are talking about people who have used governance as a method of defending monopolies at the cost of the idea of hard work = reward. You're like one of those retards that thinks
OH LOOK ,THE DOW IS UP 5 POINTS. A NEW GOLDEN AGE IS UPON US
But the stock market is horse shit now. It doesn't mean anything. It has nothing to do with investing capital in the latest greatest idea. It's almost entirely occupied by automated computer scripts short selling on margin in order to skim off the top on behalf of front companies that will just go bankrupt and disappear if they make a mistake. That's where all the big money comes from. Literally from contributing nothing to society. Because of retards like you who put a dollar value on mental gymnastics.
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>>130668773
T. Guy with no defensive game
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>>130668626
which is ok, because society, which is what we are talking about, is not part of the "natural order". it is am emergent system from the natural, which can have different operating mechanisms - fairness is one of the basic operating mechanisms of all stable societies - if fairness is lacking the society falls apart.
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The blue shell is 100% liberals idea of fairness.
>get the blue shell when you are near last place
>blue shell seeks out player in 1st place
>blue shell hits 1st place player dropping them back several places and letting 2nd move to 1st
>player who launched blue shell is completely unaffected by it, It doesn't speed them up or slow down the players near by. All it does is shuffle around who is in first. Somehow the player who launched the blue shell feels good about dicking someone over without getting any benefit for themselves.
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>>130668270
penalizing winners is never a good thing it empowers losers..... Equality by law is not equality at all
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>>130672603
If you want to talk about natural order as I keep saying. The squirrel with a mouth full of acorns can't run as fast. In nature over-hoarding is a handicap in and of itself.
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You're not entitled to another persons labor, or property. Even animals understand what property rights, and territory are, but for our "advanced" civilization this seems to be a difficult concept.
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>>130668776
Mario Kart is 90% luck. If you get good items you win. If your opponents get good items you lose. Items are all chance. Is random luck how we should allocate resources in our economy?
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>>130668773
>play chess
>move my queen straight into that idiot's bishop
>haha i'm so good at this
>Knight takes queen
>Shit game desu

hurrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRR
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>>130668270
You should solve inequality by raising the bottom not pulling down the top. Meritocracy and equality of opportunity not outcome
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>>130668270
>Mario Cart

Oh you mean the game that ruins friendships? Yeah, I'm sure that economic system would fix things right up.
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>>130672710
Now you know why they are just animals and not human beings.
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>>130671524

Materialism doesn't lead to happiness, but knowing that you provided for generations of your family certainly can. Have fun being poor, though.
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>>130672603
>fairness is one of the basic operating mechanisms of all stable societies
no its not? how are taxes fair
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>>130672679
>penalizing winners is never a good thing it empowers losers
Getting lesser help if not needed is not really a penalty. You wouldn't help both an old lady with hip problems and a healthy 20 year old cross the street, just because of equality.
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>>130672839
See:
>>130672538
There is no meritocracy at the top (where all the power lays). Everybody who is a millionaire or lower is just a shitty pawn in their game. A rat in the rat race. For everybody else the only thing your income dictates is where the jews store your body when you aren't working and what car you drive to work.
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>>130668270
>Make it harder for the rich to make money
Stop givin em your fuckin money then ya daft cunt. The Walton's wouldn't be worth over $100 billion if you people didn't give them their money.
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>>130669088
excpt the naalogy is to say that those who are doing well should not be helped to do even better - they have their own resouces adn skills - and that those who are not doing well should be helpedto become people that are no longer in need of help.

which does not disincentivise the ones doing well - they still do well, they still get good homes and lives. what, you are going to give up working hard because you only got 500 million htis year, and someone who was working just as hard but hasn't got your skills got 50 grand and a loan for another 50 to help him build his business? Oh wow, that just tears it, I quit...
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>>130669200
Unironically this.
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THOSE IN LAST PLACE SHOULD WORK HARDER AND NOT EXPECT GIBS FOR BEING LOSERS
>saged
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>>130669200
nope it doesn't.
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>>130672939
>humans aren't animals
okay, faggot.
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>>130672723
> Is random luck how we should allocate resources in our economy?
You mean the same way, it is about random luck in what area or in what wealth of family you are born in?
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>>130671912

>seperating people will be their skill

If you really think that the best and richest have the most skills, you need to get out from your mom's basement.
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>>130672673
Blue shell is a reminder of how life can be unfair
You can have it all then get cancer or ED
Wish you were all alone to read your books then break your glasses
Blue shell is a reminder you can't control it all
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>>130669276
no it isn't disadvantaging them, it is just not giving them uneeded advantages.
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>>130673059
The problem is 1 or 2 people being self aware enough to shop selectively in an effort to influence the distribution of power in society are nothing compared to the billions of braindead consumer zombies that make up our society.

The west must fall for anything to change.
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>>130668270
Because you cant base an economy on children's vidya.

That would be fucking retarded.
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>>130672469
>people shouldn't even be free to decide what their time is worth

Dear God I'm glad we split from you guys a long time ago, you seriously don't even understand fundamental rights. You're telling me a man should be told he works too hard, and as a result will have the money he earned by doing so taken by the government. I don't even care about the money at that point, if I ever live under a government which believes it is within its power to take away rights like that, I'm solving the problem one way or another. Your rights are given to you by God, the government is only there to protect those rights, from threats foreign and domestic. A man working too hard is not a fucking threat, and most certainly doesn't pose a threat to anybody around him, so the government has no reason to curtail his right to work, and sure as shit should not be taking away what he earned through that work.
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So just scholarships for poor students.
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>>130668270
>Always society should punish those who get ahead
>Never society should uplift those left behind
>Bonus: it never occurs to the liberal that the guy left behind spun out from starting early, didnt powerslide once, let alone boost, and has fallen off the track twice a lap.
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>>130673181
Genetics are a bitch.
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>>130673195
>You can have it all then get cancer or ED
>cancer
>or ED
>erectile dysfunction
Are you really comparing the two?
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>>130672512
>Liberals are leftists.
Pls KILL YOURSELF
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>>130673170
Your initial post implied that we're a cut above other animals.
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>>130670663
This is really good too.
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youre all forgetting one important philosophical aspect:
mariokart is fucking shit
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>>130672227

>People shouldn't get rewarded for failures/fuck ups/laziness/etc...

Last time people tried to enforce this on wall street faggots, said faggots said with open text that they will crash economy in retaliation.

So yes, like a good goy, YOU will pay for the fuck ups of the rich fags. All while bitching about nggers and commies. After all, those rich fags are successful and need that money more than you, ain't it right, goy?
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>>130669298
Came to make this point.
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>>130672512
All liberals are leftists but not all leftists are liberals.
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>>130673259
Except that you don't get to choose what your time is worth anyway because thanks to globalism if you want too much money they'll just import a bunch of shitskins to take the job for cheaper anyway.
>HURR BUT THAT'S WHAT (((THEY))) WANT TO DO WITH THEIR HARD INHERITED MONEY
ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY JEW AMIRITE ANON?
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>>130670638
>not saving a music box
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>>130673353
Imagine you're a chad slaying pussy left and right
You got it all you're fucking mothers and daughters
Than your dick stops working
You just got blue shelled
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>>130669298
but we don't have to take the analogy that literally - those doing well (first place) do not have to be blueshelled (and not by someone doing badly) there does not have to be a mechanism to destroy the skillful - that would be silly. But they do not need to be given bullets or extra boosters. Currently the winners in society tend to be given more help, and the less skilled, less fortunate or less experienced get less help - surely that is an unfair advantage?
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>>130673078
no one helps them. that's the point. no one should be helped. everyone should help themselves.
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>>130668270
Nothing in life is fair that's what they don't get. There's are many times in life where your forced to do things you don't want to do for the sake of self preservation. They need to grow up and realize the world will never be "fair". No one is going to cater to you because you feel left out or unappreciated
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>>130668270
It's not that the rich need to be "taken down", but since they accumulate wealth by utilizing society's people and resources, they owe a greater contribution back to society.

The problem with unfettered capitalism is that it robs people of their worth and society of its wealth of resources. Entrepreneurs generate wealth, but it ends up being horded exponentially because it's easy to accumulate wealth with more wealth.

Basically, there's a point where the CEO really doesn't deserve how much he makes. Corporations love Republicans because they push the "objective means fair" philosophy, when in reality they're paying millions to hold onto an unfair advantage. Then they sucker people into thinking they deserve it because "freedom" and play it as if they're on the same footing as the average man.
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>>130668270
lmao why the fuck would I try my hardest when I can just wait for some dumbfuck to do it for me?
Huh?

HUH?
Retard.
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>>130673226
You can reword it however you want, you're making a targeted effort at uplifting a specific group of people (the incompetent) relative to the other (competent people). All you're trying to do is give incompetent an advantage over the competent through disparate treatment; discrimination.

It's incredibly inefficient and morally abhorrent.
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>>130673434
Fucking commies
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>>130668270
No it isn't. I don't even play Mario kart anymore because of how frustrating their system is. Rewarding players who play bad and then screwing over the ones with talent by throwing a blue shell their way.
It's so backwards and it stunts the player from wanting to make any sort of improvement with their play style, so you have a bunch of wussified faggots flooding the gaming community now.
This comment is the most retarded thing I've ever seen and I hope the person who made it shoots themself with a bullet bill
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>>130668270
It's unfair. Work hard and earn money only to be punished? Why?
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>>130668270
>punish winners and reward losers
Yeah, that's not the easiest way to cause class warfare or anything...
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>Leftist 1890: Isn't Marx's theory of the business cycle as outline throughout Das Kapital an indictment of capitalism for the following reasons?

Leftist 2017: Mario Kart, Harry Potter, Mario Kart, Harry Potter, Mario Kart, Harry Potter, John Oliver
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>>130668270
OP's never been leading a Mario Kart race on the last lap. Fuck Mario Kart.
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>>130668270
You wouldn't need power ups if you just race well.
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>>130670638
Basically this. It's a perfect allegory too. People make it to the top with absolutely no defensive strategy and they stay on top when they fail because they own the politicians and just order up a trillion dollar bailout package that the brainwashed ancap jew worshippers never seem to protest as much as they would protest opening a new public school or funding a vaccination clinic. You fucking faggots are literal jew worshipping garbage.

I believe in meritocracy but I also believe that people who mistake flagrant kike shekel worship for meritocracy have no merit.
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>>130668270
Kids play too many video games and don't pay attenion to real life.

/thread
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>>130672835
yeah cause mariokart is chess
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I think we should actually apply the "rayman raving rabbits" economic theory of using the degenerates and criminals as a workforce to subsidize the lives of those who have proven themselves good in society
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>>130668270
>Can anyone explain (without being rude) how this wouldn't make for a fairer society?
Can you explain (without being rude) how penalizing people for their success would make for a fairer society?
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>>130673546
No, you dumb fucking faggot. It's not about fairness, it's about justice.
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>>130673454
My job can't be replaced by shitskin immigrants since you have to have been born in the US to hold it.
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>>130668270
It makes for an awful society because it requires giving the state a lot of power in order to control your "power-ups".

Consequently, becoming a part of the state would instantly place you in Diamond, out of the reach of all the Silver, Gold and Bronze plebs. Because if the politicians control your power-ups, there's no way you could ever confront them without breaking the rules of the game and tearing down the entire system.

All in all, this might sound like a good idea if you're a fucking loser and you're simply unable to man up and face your life without someone holding your hand, but it inevitably ends in a fucking disaster - and, as usual, the weakest and poorest members of society have to shoulder the biggest burden.

Look, I know it's not something you'd like to hear, but if you're poor, the best system imaginable for you is actually some form of capitalism with a lot of limitations on state power.
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>>130673781
In the 19th century all the wealthy families got free labour because being poor was a crime that got you a life sentence of uncompensated labour in a workhouse. Those who are the wealthiest now are living off the remnants of feudalism without ever having had to sweat for what they have. That's not free market innovation. That's Jewery. If you think the system we live under now is merited you are a fucking hook nose.
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>>130673745

> People make it to the top with absolutely no defensive strategy and they stay on top when they fail because they own the politicians and just order up a trillion dollar bailout package that the brainwashed ancap jew worshippers never seem to protest as much as they would protest opening a new public school or funding a vaccination clinic. You fucking faggots are literal jew worshipping garbage.

You got it right.

Also, the same faggots will bitch about communism every time someone actually will try to go through with the "you fail, you pay for it" for the top players.

They are the biggest cucks, in my opinion. And the most delusional because they think that ONE TIME THEY WILL BE ON THE TOP, some people in this thread are these.
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>>130668270
>Can anyone explain (without being rude) how this wouldn't make for a fairer society?

Because they never acknowledge that jews have most all of the money and power, and yet their powerups are never diluted thusly.
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>>130669200
you reward my dick

if you know what I mean
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>>130673509
>winners given more help
The government spoon feeds women and shitskins, even giving them jobs over more qualified white men. They still can't do anything right. I'd love some of that white privilege they bitch about on campus.
>unfair advantage
Welcome to life, there is absolutely no logical reason to waste resources on the bottom rung.
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>>130673723
this guy gets it
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>>130668412
I read this out to boyfriend and he just went "ohhhhhhhh"
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>>130668270
Can you explain why you believe it is supposed to be fair?
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>>130668270
Anaon when you grow up you'll realize there are no'power ups' in adult life. Not everything can be explained away with a video game or Harry Potter analogy
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>>130674057
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ohhhhhhhh
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>>130674041
Don't get me wrong I want to gas all you commies too. But these retards act like there's nothing that exists in between Communism and Capitalism.

There is... Or at least there was.
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>>130674057
>if you know what I mean
I don't.
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>>130669298

>making sure that 1st place doesn't ensure it's dominance forever, while also having a cushion in case it fails
>making room for competition in the second/third place
>Crushing the monopoly with no survivors.

Not a bad thing in my book.
Faggots can do everything they want unless they steal from the other rich like Madoff, (nobody gives a fuck about random goyim, and even if someone gets punished for jewry, what is several millions fine for a company with several billions annual revenue) anyway, so why not throw in some good old chaos element?
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>>130672835
>he's never played Mario kart

Don't try to win guys
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>>130674272
>be trump
>be given 2 million dollar power up
>rush to first place
>Jeb throws his pocket turtle at trump
>too low energy it ricochets hits himself
>trump uses weaponized autism power up
>becomes president
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But seriously
>Taking 1st place in mario kart
>before securing a shell shield
>ever
>being that retarded
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>>130668270
Basically all racing games do this, and it's completely unfair. If it isn't power ups, it's extra speed that let's you pull ahead. It's taking someone that got to first using their skill and giving them a handicap while boosting someone that hasn't earned it ahead. Now try and explain how an economy like that is fair.
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>>130668270
>Mario Kart socialism
You gotta be fucking kidding me.
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I think what's more accurate is when you hit first place all power ups should be disabled for you
All you do is shoot shells in back of you and throw banana peels in back making it harder for others that can't catch up anyway
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>>130674413
There its called the American economy and it aint working. Pure capitalism is whats needed
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>>130674839
>hurr real capitalism hasn't been tried
KYS
You are just as bad as the
>real communism hasn't been tried
faggots.
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>>130674839
It's fucking obnoxious how you fucking burgers will bend over backwards to defend the jew.
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>>130668270
It would. This is how it should work.

Middle class people think because someone gives them 500 grand a year, that they are in the "higher ranks" of society and don't understand that such a system would benefit everyone.

TL;DR I don't know if fairer is the right word, but it would certainly make for happier societies as a whole.
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>>130674896
>>130674952
samefag
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>>130674413

>Don't get me wrong I want to gas all you commies too.

Deal with this jewry and there will be no commies. Apart, from, maybe, couple anarchists.

>There is... Or at least there was.

There was, but then again, it was a short time after October revolution and rich suddenly realized that by treating people like cattle, they are tying the noose around their own necks.
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It kills your motivation to get to first place, because you know the rewards are not worth it.

The harder you work, the more you get, now that's actually fair.
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>>130668626
>dude let's behave like animals because it's natural lmao
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>>130668626
Chimpanzees understand fairness. However, understand doesn't imply that they always practice it.
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>>130673823
What I'm saying is this: Imagine if someone in Mario Kart races well, they get ahead in the first lap, so they are a good driver. But, the game is programmed so that people in first gain top speed. They also get to steal stars and mushrooms from other players, and they're immune to blue shells.

So, I'm not saying the rich should be blue-shelled, but they shouldn't have so much power, since they're not objectively detached from society. They're integrated. People who do the work for them deserve to be rewarded for their merits too. And I'm not talking about paying high school fast food employees $15.
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>>130668626
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature
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>>130675014
The second post was additional thoughts after the fact you fucking pile of garbage. Jesus Christ. How can anybody be this mentally retarded?
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>>130675045

>The harder you work, the more you get, now that's actually fair.

>People that sell their own image and engage in usury are literally the hardest working people in the world.

Neck yourself.
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>>130668270
Because it isn't, you shouldn't be punished for being successful. The reason for that system being in place in Mario Kart is because it's made purposefully so people can have fun even if there's a wide skill disparity. It's there so you can play with young kids or family and friends that don't play games without them losing interest and feeling like they can't win.

Life is already unfair enough, why would you want to make it worse?
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>>130675212
By being burgers.
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>>130672835
If you're beating your enemies, they win.
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>>130674413
>Capitalism
point is that capitalism requires the consumers to not be glue eating turds
which is the problem nowadays, since retards vote retardedly and screw themselves over big time
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>>130675037
Well they are treating us like cattle again but it seems everybody are good little goyim this time around.
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>Be Shy Guy (Blue) [male]
>Start race, drifting after every coin
>Use my expert knowledge of the track and a mushroom in order to get to 1st place by taking a risk
>I deserve this
>Lap 3, a corner before the goal line, didn't even get a Super Horn
>Blue Shell
>Lightning Bolt
>Red Shell
>now in 5th
>But some liberal said I deserve getting Mario Karted and all my efforts going to waste, so this is perfectly fine.
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>>130675226
>The reason for that system being in place in Mario Kart is because it's made purposefully so people can have fun even if there's a wide skill disparity
Actually it's there because the nintendo 64 couldn't handle one player being a large distance ahead of the other players without experiencing slowdown. It wasn't in the original game.
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>fairer society
How is being punished for success and rewarded for failure considered "fair"?
Are you saying that we've always been at war with Eurasia?
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>>130668773

The first mario kart isnt like that. Thats why its still the best one
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>>130668913
the kingmaker cant be king but can still decide who it will be
mario kart is simple conpetition, it isnt like real life which is complex competition full of shifting allegiances and backstabs
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>>130675403
Did you try to make a retarded post on purpose?
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>>130675137
Some people value justice, believe it or not. Sorry if that's too alien for you to understand.
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>>130672873
>Mario kart ruins friendships
You are like a little baby.
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>>130675224
I didn't say that

Punishing all hard working and successful people because a few rich actors is not fair at all.

I'm not concerned about money at all, I just donated 100€ which is almost half of what I currently have in my account (not bragging just making a point). Money doesn't make you happy. Seek the kingdom of God instead of money.
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>>130668270
Incredibly cheap slide thread. Everyone who replied and didn't sage deservers to get gassed.
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>>130675540
just a little bit. OP's idea is still pure faggotry though.
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>>130675296
Everyone lives in illusion of "I will get to first place some time!".

Commies like me (we're not talking about braindead idealists -children of rich upper and middle class parents), are usually redpilled on that part. Either by living in the corrupt shithole or experiencing the "free market" firsthand.

Or even understanding that first place is reserved for rich families and connection to those is more influental of success than any amount of hard work.

Hell, I know a guy who works in PR agency - you know, making a good image for a good pay, teaching people how to speak properly - usually for politicians but also for businessmen.
He has VIRTUALLY NEVER seen smart guy. Cunning - maybe, but not actually smart.
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>>130668270
Mario cart is infuriating. Fair implies equal opportunity not outcome. Mario cart guarantees everyone that tries is going to get fucked up throughout the race. In fact it's often best to not even try and just let everyone get ahead of you, do the damage to each other, then jew your way out front towards the end. If you want doctors and engineers like that then god help us all. What's more fair than a straight race without bringing other people down with you in your failures?
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>>130675670
And this
is to go
EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
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>>130675851
I just wonder if it's going to break soon or if people are going to be retards and let themselves become literal slaves.
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>>130668270

It doesn't matter, poor people still slip on their own banana peel on the next lap.
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Why are both libtards and conservacucks so god damn daft
>libtard: hurr let's help those that are faring worse like Mario Kart, and fuck those who got ahead with hard work
>conservacuck: hurr everyone fend for himself, but my daddy is rich so I get a good education and degree and a good entry level job while the other guy gets a crappy community college

both are wrong. Yes, society should lend a hand to poor people, but only to the point where they get a more or less equal chance at life. An education, healthcare, maybe a decent home even if it's a tiny apartment. So that rich and poor people both start out in a similar position. After that, you're on your own. Go make (or break) yourself.

This concept works out perfectly here in Switzerland.
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>>130675710

>few rich actors is not fair at all.

Mate. it's opposite, actually.

Hard working is the deviation. Usury, shady dealings, intrigues and connections are the norm if you wan't to get actually rich.

Hard working, at best, will land you into upper middle class.
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>>130668270
Because someone shouldnt automatically be doxxed for getting ahead.where is the skill involved or the reward for playing well?
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>>130676125
Or like I said about the stock market earlier. It's all a bunch of short sells made on margin on the behalf of front companies that can just disappear when they fuck up while the merchant behind the scheme disappears with money siphoned off of some struggling entrepreneur who fell for the stock market jew.
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>>130675962
It won't break.

Why communists managed to take power in Russia? People had nothing to lose and were sure that nothing will change.

Totally opposite from what is happening right now to the masses.

The only way it will break is when another world crisis hits hard.
But the bubble that is modern economy is still rising and is not big enough to burst yet.
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>>130668270

You never played Mario Kart while also having some modicum of actual fucking hand-eye-coordination and drive to succeed? Its infuriating. Sure there are races where you come 1st with a 10 second lead but you can get shit on by nonsense in the next course with the same shitty opponents.
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>>130668270

There will still be people who finish last tho
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>>130673197
BRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
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>>130668270
Run society like a video game. Retarded consider suicide.
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>>130675500
>the kingmaker cant be king but can still decide who it will be

Right, except that thats completely false, both in MK and in the real world. Perhaps you should try thinking before you type.
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>using a childrens game for a metaphor of how society should run
>fucking tumblr

oh god no
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In some cases capital flight can take place which basically means that wealthy people will leave the country due to strict laws (and all of their money with them). This would hurt the economy
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punish people for being successful, reward them for being unsuccessful. Great idea, what could go wrong
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>>130676700
no u faget
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>>130668270
Life isn't fair. Get fucking used to it.
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Mario Kart is a game designed to make everyone feel like they have a chance, despite their skill. This is okay, because Mario Kart is a casual game designed for children.

However, nobody decent at video games considers it a genuinely competitive game. That leaves only children, women, and retards, who make up 90% of tumblr's userbase.

If you're going to base your economic policy on a game, try chess. Or CS. Or an arena shooter. These are games in which the best players are rewarded for their skill, rather than punished to "even it out."
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>>130668270
In a certain way it is a good idea.
Give people medical help to a certain limit.
Or wellfare to a certain limit.

>Hurr durr black people should be allowed to commit free crimes
But not like the liberals want to do it.
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>>130676965
>These are games in which the best players are rewarded for their skill, rather than punished to "even it out."
You forgot fighting games.
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>>130672512
>Liberals are leftists
Why the fuck are you in a politics board when you don't even understand the difference between liberalism and left-wing politics?

Ever heard of Libertarians? Those are right-wing liberals.
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>>130675403
this is also why you can beat donkey kong 64 much faster because the whole thing lags out when you throw grenades too often
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>>130668773
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Wouldn't it make more sense to make sure everybody makes it safe to the finishing line? Why punish those who are good drivers? What if you happen to be extremely intelligent and can outsmart anybody? Would it make sense to arrange a brain surgery to remove part of your brain to "dull" you down so that others wouldn't feel so bad for you being so smart?
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>>130668270
>get punished for being good
>get rewarded for being bad
now even if you want to say poor people deserve help, you cant get around the fact that it incentivizes bad behavior
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dam the parallels between Mario Kart and real life are endless... DEEP
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Because these people consider being white or male as basically being first place, you know since rich (((whites))) tend to support them.
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>>130674129
>Implying Ingrid can read from underneath her burqa.
Sven confirmed homocuck.
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>>130668270
the people who decide who gets what """powerups""" will inevitably be the most powerful people in the society.

>poor people: "Hey, did everyone notice that guy over there is rich and has more stuff than us?? That seems unfair!!"
>gov't: "you're right! We'll just take EVERYTHING FROM EVERYONE and then distribute everything *fairly* don't worry we are superpeople immune from corruption this totally isn't a powergrab we just want to help the po'folks :))))"
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>>130668270

they are already doing this in california and its basically called raising minimum wage to 15 dollars by 2022.

the thing though, Im already making that much now, I know for a fact our boss will not raise it, he will pay as much as he can get away with.

so soon both burger flippers and machinists will be making somewhat the same.
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>>130677255
>look at wellfare
>working people give up huge part of thier income
>lazy parasistes gets welfare

Here welfare is fucking low, laughable, only enough to survive. Guess what low unemployment rates. Even 96% of Ukrainian refuges work.
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>>130668773
Mario Kart's not supposed to be competitive, it's a game you're supposed to play when you're fucking around at a friend's house.
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>>130674212
This, its actually to make it interesting and give last players a chance to get back in game.
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>>130677554
This. Imagine getting fired from your job for having *cis-white privilege*, and then someone without that "privilege" gets your job. And don't you dare to question what those supposed *cis-white privileges* are, or that's jailtime for you buddy.
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>>130668773
>obviously shooped flags
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>>130668913
I hope people that keep loosing the race rage quit
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>>130668626
Humans are above nature.
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>>130678034
pride goeth before the fall
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>>130675208
not an argument dumbass. he didn't say it was good or bad, just that it's unnatural
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>>130677554
>winning is w-wrong!

I was born a poorfag and I'm still a poorfag. I lack ambition and haven't tried very hard to improve my situation and I'll even admit my parents probably shouldn't have had another kid. Penalizing successful people because of my actions or my parents actions isn't fair or right. Some people are poor other are not. Some people worked hard for their money and others did not. There is just no easy way to slap a fix on that. There will always be people who are smarter than others economically and will know how to use their wealth to make more. Whining socialist losers need to work harder and shut up.
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>>130668270
I'll help blue shell the 1% when my country is racially pure, and not before.
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>>130668773
Mario Kart is a great game you piece of shit. There are techniques to minimize blue shell attacks. Get gud.
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>>130668270
That's the way it is already with welfare (red shells) and affirmative action (blue shell) nogs just like to stay in last place to seem like the games rigged against them and then blame whitey for throwing too many banana peels on the track.
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>>130668270

/v/ here.

Being front runner is the most comfy position you can have in Mario Kart. Even amongst somewhat evenly skilled players, getting ahead early often nets you more than enough leeway that you can take a blue shell comfotably.

Why? Because second place still gets shit for items, so you won't have to deal with their assault, because they are desperately defending and getting assblasted from behind.

You just cruise along, while all the shitters in the middle duke it out and constantly have to battle for their position.

Best MK was Double Dash anyways. You just needed to git gud and you could dodge reds and even blues.
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>>130668270
>a fairer society
the very last thing humans should strive for, if they want to be around in a few thousand years, is fairness. the weak should be thrown from the top of tall buildings as part of a spectacle. only the smart and the strong should survive. our existence depends on it.
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>>130668270
If our economy worked like that you'd have a bunch of trolls operating at middle of the pack, sandbagging, saving their "useful powerups" for the very end of the race. At which point they would use them all to steal the victory from the stupid people who used skill and ability to get to first place.
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>>130669767
Nice
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>>130678560
This really.
If you really want to compare Mario Kart and real life, being #1 is the shittiest position to be in.
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>>130678298
>Best MK was Double Dash

Almost, 64 is still the best and takes the most skill to git gud
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>>130668270
A 5 minute race is not exactly comparable to bussiness you have spent 30 years building.
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>>130668270
people who are further up the food chain tend to need less power ups.

its simple really.
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>>130672673
blue shell is some nigger stabbing you after you went down the wrong alley.
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>>130673492
Lol that doesn't happen faggot. Chads don't get ED. You know ED comes from getting fat and old without exercising? Ild men with good genes who stay active do not get ED lol. They also hardly ever get cancer.
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So blueshell fucks are commies now?
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>>130669200
its not punishing people for being sucessful, its not giving them shit they dont need.

simples.
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>>130668412
>this is a valid criticism of the idea
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>>130678301
says the weak as fuck 14 year old virgin
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>>130672512
I think it's a new meme
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>>130668362
Fpbp
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>>130668270
You can't determine who's in "first place".
And those who are in "first place" earned it through work. If there is no incentive to being in "first place" like benefits of any kind, then you will have everyone fighting for last place, and the race would go nowhere.
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>>130679586
The further behind you are the better the items you get. How is that not exactly what he said?
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>>130668270
Oh look, it's the "reparations" argument with shiny new packaging
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>>130668270
>fair

No desire to improve yourself, but only to cut the legs off from those more successful so you can be "equal".

Marxist are absolutely nauseating in their desire to drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator.
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How is this not the current UK system OP? Its a marginal tax system and you lose your personal allowance if you earn over 100K.
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>>130668270
>punishing people for being successful
Great idea if you want your country to turn into a glorified starvation simulator
>oh noes we punished successful people and they got mad and left, now our economy is non existent!
>fuggggg xDDDdddd
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>>130672512

It really rustles /leftpol/'s jimmies when you call them liberal. Do with that information what you will.
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>>130680405
he said punish people for being sucessful, which its not. not being given something you dont need is not punishment. you need to check your reading comprehension germany.
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>>130668270
>some hobo comes up to me on the street and throws blue shells at me
>all I have is a banana
>he takes my house and all my money
fugg
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>>130671609
/v/ never plays kart anymore.
just shitposts.
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As far as racing sims go, MK is trash (obviously). The only decent one was Super Mario Kart (the first) where skill was rewarded and you couldn't go from last to first at the end. You had to have a near perfect race to contend for wins in the harder classes.
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>>130668270
VIDEO GAMES ARE NOT REAL LIFE
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Marian reforms.

Fairness should only apply when the natural order is disrupted. The rich become too fat and militarily impotent - corruption becomes rampant. There is then a reshuffling of this dynastic system by a strong military body that re-establishes a leadership capable of dominance and care for the Empire.

Handouts do absolutely nothing to better anyone's position - the situation with North America's indians shows this. Economy and social hierarchies exist in a natural equilibrium that become disrupted by irresponsible leadership - of course, in these times, that is their goal. Chaos is the endgame.
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>>130668773
t. guy with no friends
might as well tattoo it on your forehead
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>>130668270
>fairer society
what are you a faggot?
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>>130678298
Nobody factors in the poorfags that can lag their way into first
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>>130668270
Literally fucking REDDIT
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>>130668270
most countries run like this, you cannot get social benefits if your wealthy
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It's literally already like this.
>be poor Nigger with no work ethic
>pay no taxes and get free money and food
>be rich and successful
>forced to pay 30-50 percent of all your income to the government
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>>130668270
Because in reality you want to pour gasoline on the powerful and competent to achieve as much as they can.

That Mario kart system has the opposite effect.

It works like this, pick a virtue you think is good: find someone with it, and enhance it, promote it, make it them more powerful.

Ie. Someone with exceptional inventiveness in medicine: give them endless grants and financing and status power ups (awards etc) so they stay motivated and rewarded.


Thanks
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>>130670642
You deserve a (you) and tits
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>>130668270
There is no incentive to improve dipshit.
If everyone gets the cool shit by sitting at the back they'll be fighting to be worse off.

People wouldn't want their businesses to grow because of fear of all the dogshit taxes and penalties they'll have to endure
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>>130668270
What's the incentive to being a productive member of society? Why not just rack up the benifits of the lower caste?
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>>130668270
>Can anyone explain (without being rude) how this wouldn't make for a fairer society?

The only way for this to work is to handicap good parents. That's it. Privlidge is having parents that care about your future enough to do anything to give you an advantage. This is why communism is stupid and capitalism is natural law.

I wish these deeply stupid fucks would stop larping a world where it's possible to have a perfectly equal society.
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>>130688429
s/Privlidge/Privilege
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>>130669200
I read this out loud to my boyfriend and just went "ohhhhhhhhhhh"
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>>130668270
All the societies that tried that model turned into insufferable hell holes with the worst imagine atrocities took place.

Meanwhile, in our current model. We are enjoying the GREATEST prosperity humankind has ever achieved. We are the pinnacle, and its literally ONLY because we dont use that model.

Do you understand OP?
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>>130668270
The super good power ups you get for being in last place don't bring you up to first. They'll get you to seventh from twelfth, and then you'll only have worst items from there. If her stratagy is to rely on on items to carry her to vctory then she wasn't going to win anyway
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>>130668270
Because nobody should be punished for doing well.

In fact, if you play Mario Kart for a bit, you'll notice that the best strategy is to stay in 2nd place until the end, which is how you end up with two players driving as slowly as possibly without going into third.
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>>130680947
Except that in the game, powerups come out of nothing.
In the real world, usually what's proposed is to tax the rich to provide for the poor which is a form of punishment.
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>>130691713
>which is a form of punishment
not to mention how dysgenic it is.
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>>130668270
Because Mario Kart is a game that is still at the high levels not decided by items and most OP items are used by the people at the bottom to attack those 1~2 places in front of them.

Doesn't sound like a great society to me.
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