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Smart drugs. What's /pol/'s view on them? Anyone here

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Smart drugs.

What's /pol/'s view on them? Anyone here use smart drugs such as phenibut?
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I only take dumb drugs
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i just smoke weed to make me more thinky
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>>130516153

I ordered some from LM about a week ago, so I'll let you know in a few days how 1mg every other day is workin for me.
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this here is literally a smart drug, zinc and magnesium in a highly bioavailable form
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>>130516153

What superpower dies that odd drug, called PenisButt u depicted there give ?!

really makes your balls big ...
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>>130516724

Looks pretty disgusting, and I bet it feels even more disgusting in your mouth.

How the fuck does one every find themselves in a situation where they EAT this shit.
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>>130516153
I know for a fact Dexedrine is awesome for that, but like a lot of drugs, if the person uses it for an extended period it leads to addiction and mental and physical problems. Should only be used sparingly and carefully.
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>>130516153
phenibut is the only thing that's ever helped my anxiety

semax and selank are pretty bomb, as is noopept

bacopa is good long-term for managing the physical effects of stress

lion's mane is helpful for learning

memantine permanently fixed my cortisol-induced brain damage, but you need to have a month or two where some brain fog is ok

vinpocetene works well too

racetams work if you have brain damage of some kind, but they haven't worked after the memantine

can't go wrong with caffeine and l-theanine to start though
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>>130516874
also coluracetam is good for creative work
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>>130516854
I've eaten thousands of those bad boys.

They're delicious and each fishery has a unique flavor. It's as gourmet a product as a fine wine but much more economically accessible.
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i think i cured my ADD with lion's mane
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>>130516854
>t.Cohen
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>>130516854
Are you from Baltmore?
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I just took 250mg of phenibut, will post results. I know 500mg is the minimum but i want to test dosages first.

I like how this supposedly raises your libido, if it does i'll be fucking the girlfriend and spreading her legs and all night.
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Alpha brain niggas
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>>130516854
Raw bars are pretty common around here. Shellfish are awesome. I harvest quahogs and mussels for cookouts, always a big hit.
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>>130517593
It actually doesn't raise your libido. It makes masturbation and orgasm much less pleasurable. I found phenibut to be useful for nofap.
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>>130517961
You seem to be the only one, everyone else seems to think so.
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>>130516153
snake oil
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>>130516153
Delete this faget before BN is forced by our cucked government to remove it from sale.
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>>130517593
Alright mates, just realized it takes anywhere from an hour > 4 hours since i have a full stomach. Will keep reporting if i feel anything though and if i don't I'll take one more cap to make it 500mg.
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>>130518178
it blocks pleasure sensations to the nucleus accumbens, which is why a closely related drug backlofen is used for alcholism and other addictions.
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>>130516153
Ones that take "smart" drugs are not smart at all.
Deal with your intelligence, not all of us is Tesla-level sociopath.
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Modafinil which is probably the most interesting of all smart drugs.

No side effects, only focus and endless energy, but you can fall asleep whenever you want.

Makes you feel like pic related
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>>130516874
>pretty bomb
Explain?
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I've tried almost everything out there.

Modafinil is pretty much the only shit that works. Make you feel like you have been blessed by the Holy Spirit.

Honestly though, most of you are young men with no health problems. You really have to ask yourself, why the fuck do you need any drugs to feel good? You should be waking up with a boner ready to fuck the world. (Seriously if you don't have morning wood, your testosterone is too low and you need to get it fix)

check for the following:
>low test
>low thyroid hormones
>sleep apnea
>heavy metal toxicity
>various vitamin/mineral deficiencies (zinc, magnesium etc)

Fix the root of the problem stop just putting chemical band aids on.
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>>130516153
I take resveratrol, astaxanthin algae, and xanthohumol every day. It helps with my skin as well.
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>>130518698
It's not an amphetamine so I might be able to try it. Rate out /10 for me
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>>130520173
>makes you feel like pic related
Are you stupid?
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>>130520223
I've got an in of 170
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>>130516845
came here to post this but thank god you did it first because I now realize what a stupid thing it would be to say
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>>130520330
fukkken saved cunt
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>>130519334
i agree with what you are saying but my problem is that I hate doing boring things which I must (like studying)
so modafinil helps getting through that.

It's not that I have any problem or deficiency, I just need a "extra" zing
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>>130516854
people only eat em cuz they're expensive

if they were cheap nobody would even want that shit
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>>130520173
its 10/10 for the purpose of doing mundane tasks like work and study

its 0/10 for recreational use
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2-FMA kicks all kinds of ass.
Only dextroamp can beat it for lighting that fire.

If you can find some, I highly recommend it.
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>>130519981

you can't get sunburned on astaxanthin, there are some powerful natural compunds out there.
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>>130520611

Kinda like lobster, the cockroach of the sea.

People are just stupid.
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i took phenibut for the first time thinking it'd help me on a "date"

date went terribly, made narcoleptic, and then when i went home i had crash from all the anxiety
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>>130520611
pretty much. it's amazing how easily you can trick people into doing stupid shit if you just make them believe that everyone else thinks it's a good idea.
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>>130516153
russian space vodka is not a fucking nootropic

>>130516153
I done just about all of them with mixed results

>tfw the piracetam magic is gone
when I first tried it I thought I was fixed and this was my life now forever but it faded
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>>130520332

lol

there is no such thing as stupid ...
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>>130520668
Yeah isoflavones also prevent UV induced dna damage. But they're estrogenic. I still take them anyway cause I don't care, but probably most people would. I have had minor prostate tumours twice even before I hit puberty so I kind of try and gear around that. I take a lot of estrogenic supplements. I use flax lignans in megadosage amounts cause I'm really worried about cancer again.
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>>130516854
I could say the same about mushrooms, but plenty of people like them.
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>>130516724

why would one eat something that looks and arguably smells like rotten vagina ...

... unless ure a male feminist.
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>>130520917
I thought the same thing until I started to inject it (iv). I mix it with bacteriostatic water and get an insulin syringe - it's only scary the first time.
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I used to take a Piracetam stack, it worked but not well enough to justify the pricetag. I tried modafinil but it did absolutely fuck all for me.
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> Phenibut
Quite effective, tolerance builds very quickly. If you use it for special occasions only, you are fine.
If you use it too often, you will have to almost double the dose to get the same effect as the day before. Do this a few days in a row, then try to stop and you will experience a massive crash with loss of personality, where you just feel like some being reacting to everything around you + lots of anxiety + suicidal thoughts. So use it with care.

> Modafinil
Kind of overrated, but does work. It's very subtle, yet effective. You don't notice the effect, things just go by themselves. A good explanation I read is that it blocks "sleepyness" rather than giving you energy. In that way you can just keep doing stuff without getting tired. No crash the day after, really.
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>>130516153
im about to start micro dosing on psilocybin
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>>130516515
It's a hoax. A fad that some ((merchant)) hopes it will take off after posting it on kikebook or some random forum. Don't waste your money or time on it. Besides, it will probably destroy your liver.
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>>130521042
stop fucking with me f a m
>>130521076
shits cheap as fuck what you on about mate , oh is is pricey there ?
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>>130521536

I got it capped because it tastes fucking vile.
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>>130517119
They are filter feeders. All of the raw sewage that is pumped into the ocean is filtered through them. If you eat them out of season, you will get deathly sick. No thanks.
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>>130521536
It's okay breh. You live in the states though, get your hands on some moda/armo dafinil.
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>>130518698
>>130520173

>Modafinil
I've got a job where concentration and mental alertness/ acuity are important and I've been taking Modafinil on and off for about 2 years now. Great stuff.
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Only tried Modafinil during my last year of Uni. Don't think it made me smarter but it certainly helped me focus on my dissertation, had it pretty much done in a week because I just worked 9-5 solidly on it.
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>>130516153
BRAIN FORCE AT I N F O W A R S DOT COM
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>>130516874
>can't go wrong with caffeine

I quit all caffeine since january and I sleep better and have less anxiety.
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>>130518698
Modafinil gave me a bad rash, went away after awhile
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>>130516854
>t. Prepubescent virgin
Eat your broccoli little boy
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>>130521810
Don't forget your super male vitality and water filter while you're there. Also buy some flat earth maps.
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>>130517593

1 hour, still not feeling anything.
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>>130516153
phenibut is strong as fuck for a legal "supplement" but in my experience it just chills me out, makes me tired, and makes me sleep like a baby. Lasts forever too. I'd say it made me slower not smarter like alcohol
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>>130516153
That chit will turn you into turbo niggah.
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>>130519334
this picture is the shittest meme ever, who the hell likes being alone
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>>130522048
Phenibut takes hours to feel but lasts a long ass time. Take 500mg minimum
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>>130521917
Holy fuck, please never use it again and be very careful of all drugs in the future (even ibuprofen/panadol). There are a number of studies that show it can cause a whole bunch of skin conditions - basically ALL your skin sloughs off and then you die. There is a small percent of it happening with even common shit like panadol. Please be careful ausbro.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevens%E2%80%93Johnson_syndrome
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>>130521917
Dude.

The doctor that writes my prescriptions cautioned that I should stop taking it immediately if I noticed any rashes as it could trigger (potentially lethal) hypersensitivity reactions.
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>>130522247
yo gotta roll the dice sometimes.
go big
or go home.
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>>130521939
>sex shaming anonymous people over a disgusting ocean roach
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>>130522419
This lad rolled the dice and he got a warning - stay the fuck away.
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>>130521620
wimp , try pyritinol tha'll put hair on your chest
>>130521678
already have adrafinil , you can't get it ?
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>>130522363
I stopped straight away, the rash went away.
Sucks cant take it again.
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>>130522551
As soon as it became prescription medicine in Australia by law you can only import 3 months at a time (90 pills). There isn't enough value when only buying 90.

>>130522618
If you're in Brisbane, I'll buy it off ya cunt.
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>>130522618
You could if you find something to counteract what is causing the rash. Assuming somebody out there did studies and found what caused the side effect.
I doubt it's a thing but maybe look out in the future.
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>>130520611
Plenty of places in my city (NE USA Lib hellhole) have happy hour specials where they are a dollar per oyster. Hardly expensive. Also a hundred years ago or so New York Harbor had some of the highest concentration of oyster beds in the world. People ate them for every year, of all economic backgrounds.
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anyone ever use adrafinil?
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>>130521954
LMFAO @ flat earth maps
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>>130516153
I just kicked a phenibut habit. Never drink the powder in water. I had beautiful teeth, now a good chunk of my enamel is gone. Luckily i started parachuting the stuff in time. On the effect: great for socialisig, hangovers, public speaking, work, annoying monologues, funniness. Downsides: i became a little annoying, it's extremely addictive, so even after three days of use spread out during a week off days were really depressing, so i had to plan my life and productivity around those days. But it's a great high. Makes you productive and euphoric like speed, but you can also sleep. It's like a mild, drawn out ghb rush.
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>>130522833
uhh, you can get a whole cheeseburger for $1.... sounds like a ripoff to me m8
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>>130521402
>I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'm going to give you advice anyway
Typical Democrat.

>>130516153
>>130516515
Phenibut works. It actually gets you kind of high. It works so well the shit is actually addictive. That's the draw back for it. You will get physically addicted to it, and it will become a huge burden if you take it every day.

The problem is it seems like such a mild, good thing that you don't realize you've taken it every day for 2 weeks until the day you forget to take it, and realize you're addicted to it.

If you have an addictive personality I don't suggest having a bottle of the stuff laying around. If you're the kind of person that can drink 2 beers, and then call it a night it's worth a shot.
It works great as an anxiolytic. Gives mild euphoria/mood lift. A lot of people claim a calming effect like a benzo from it, but it worked the opposite for me. I got kind of a speedy "let's go be productive" kind of feeling from it.
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>>130523683
Use colgate prohealth. It has calcium carbonate and l-arginine which is supposed to rebuild enamel. The chemicals react due to salivas enzymes and make a thick paste.
I've used it ever since braces fucked up my teeth. It won't legit regrow enamel cause that's scientifically impossible, but it coats your teeth in a thick calcium layer which can help make your teeth look a little more normal.
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>>130516153
You don't get smart from a Benzodiazepines you fag
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>>130518698
any side effects or drawbacks?
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>>130516415
>i just smoke weed to make me more thinky

Yeah man, that shit makes you so open minded man, so open minded your brain falls out maaaaan.

And lets not talk about the fact it is used a crutch by people with low self esteem.
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>>130524157
sometimes the eyes hurt
doing for 2 consecutive days in a row is "tiring" and gets the eye pain chance higher
sometimes sleeping is hard

all of these are very minor, just try doing day yes day off
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>>130522710
Gave it away the other week
>>130522771
Yeah just way too much effort, didnt really need it, but wanted to try because of all the hype.
First reaction to any drug that i have taken, bit odd.
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>>130516854
Feels like a labia in your mouth. Literally like eating pussy. Only fags don't like oysters.
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>>130516874

>caffeine and l-theanine to start though

Great combo.
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PLEASE READ THE HORROR STORIES ABOUT THIS

I don't know about other nootropics, but I've read some pretty shitty accounts of experiences with this.
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>>130518698
Modafinil gave me a permanent tinnitus, have fun with it.
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>>130524460
>First reaction to any drug that i have taken, bit odd.
Nah not that bad. I've used supplements for a long time and I've had shit like heart palpitations from certain ones that acted as potential maoi's and ssri's, you don't even know what bad side effects are lmao
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>>130516854
It tastes like chicken, really
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phenibut is underwhelming on its own

it's good with alcohol, weed, xanax, coke, muscle relaxers, heroin etc though, and it helps ease opiate withdrawal
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>>130524012
Thanks, i will try that.
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>>130524973
Not everyone is a drug addict like you just looking to get high, and feel good.
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>>130525084
I can't remember what the actual toothpaste name is though, check the ingredients before you buy it.
It comes in really weird tubes that have like a bizarre airlock seal on it lol

It's colgate for sensitive teeth but it's not their usual stuff. It's like colgate prohealth pro-enamal or something?
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>>130516153
Is that some low tier pleb shit?

>High Tier shit proven to work
Focalin
Vyvanse
Ritalin ER
>High Tier euroshit
Piracetam
Pramiracetam
OXiracetam
Noopept
Phenylpiracetam for Supreme Motivation
Aniracetam

>How to be a man surrounded by all these xenoestrogens
AI such as Aromasin, Arimidex
OTC: ATD, Arimistane
Oral prohormones (shit tier)
Test

You are welcome
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>>130524801
Yeah probably true
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>>130516153

i think this shit only works on people with anxiety.

I'm a pretty even keeled due, and i got the phenibut F.A.A from LM.

Measured out a spoonful, took it sublingually, felt 0 effect.

Then used a scale to measure out a dose ~80% of the max recommended amount, still felt nothing.

took 100% of the max recommended amount, didnt really notice anything all day, but that night after laying in bed with my girlfriend and almost falling asleep, i got up to go to the bathroom and passed out for the first time in my life.

Tried taking it a few more times at lower amounts, and it just gave me a mild headache.
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>>130524749
sorry to hear that but there is always 1 exception
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>>130518698

Modafinil works a treat. Able to concentrate for long periods of time without mental fatigue.

Side effects for me are pooping. Lots of pooping.

Also, you say you can fall asleep whenever, but I've never heard that before, and have had the opposite effects. I can't sleep if I take it too late in the day. Body's tired but mind is too awake.
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>>130516854
keep eating your burgers, you dont deserve real food anyway
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>>130524364
Are there any online suppliers for modafinil?
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>>130518698
>no side effects
>dry mouth, appetite changes, gastro-intestinal disturbances (including nausea, diarrhoea, constipation, and dyspepsia), abdominal pain; tachycardia, vasodilatation, chest pain, palpitation; headache (uncommonly migraine), anxiety, sleep disturbances, dizziness, drowsiness, depression, confusion, paraesthesia, asthenia; visual disturbances; less commonly flatulence, reflux, vomiting, mouth ulcers, glossitis, dysphagia, taste disturbance, weight changes, hypertension, hypotension, bradycardia, arrhythmia, peripheral oedema, hypercholesterolaemia, rhinitis, dyspnoea, epistaxis, dyskinesia, amnesia, emotional lability, abnormal dreams, suicidal ideation, tremor, decreased libido, agitation, aggression, hyperglycaemia, thirst, urinary frequency, menstrual disturbances, eosinophilia, leucopenia, myasthenia, muscle cramps, hypertonia, myalgia, arthralgia, dry eye, sinusitis, acne, sweating, rash, and pruritus; rarely hallucinations, mania, psychosis; multi-organ hypersensitivity reaction, Stevens-Johnson syndrome, and toxic epidermal necrolysis also reported

evidence.nhs.uk/formulary/bnf/current/4-central-nervous-system/44-cns-stimulants-and-drugs-used-for-attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder/modafinil
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>>130525301
>High Tier drone shit
Modafinil
Provigil made by Cephalon
>Supreme High Tier Spec Ops shit
Pre 2008 Cephalon Provigil, before it got popular. Super potent version, nothing out now compares to it. Probably was mixed in with other neurostimulants because
>no sleep 24 hrs - 200mg
>numbed down pain feeling to a nill
>accelerated reflexes and coordination
>decreased reaction time (ie better)
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>>130525301
Doesn't list tren to ascend above mortals.
>stay pleb
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>>130525575
Everyone knows estradiol is the true high-tier.
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>>130516153
I found my concentration, energy levels and recall were vastly improved by losing weight, drinking less alcohol, exercising and taking vitamin D and B complex.

I wake up early in the morning and get too tired to stay awake when it's dark. I'm like a fucking bird now. As soon as it gets dark outside it's like I have narcolepsy.
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>>130525633
I value my sleep. Besides theres a ton of specific drugs to list, go to specific boards for that.
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>>130524012
Do you mean pro relief?
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>>130525800
Are you saying that you successfully transformed from a night owl to an early bird?

What sort of mutant are you?
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>>130525852
Yes, just went and checked. That's the one I use. It's also good for canker sores since it maintains the alkalinity of your mouth.
It's a good toothpaste. Completely cured my canker sore issues.
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>>130525895
It's probably the exercise.
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>>130516153
Test E
Tren Ace
Deca
Clen
Cialis

Perfect oldfag stack. GH is also very viable but veeeeery expensive.

Remember to keep the dosage small and take your PCT's and you'll live as a God well into your 50s/60s.
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>>130526203
Say goodbye to your testicles.
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>>130519334
It's called living in the modern (((world))) and low sleep.

>heavy metal toxicity
How is that still possible unless you are going out of your way to expose yourself.
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>>130526203
You better be Clarence0 faget.

>>130526322
And hello within 4 weeks once you stop taking them dum dum.
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>>130526322
Maybe he wants to be a muscle-trap kek
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>>130519334
They are lazy faggots that get no cardio. Since I started running 24km a week my girlfriend has commented that I need to be more gentle. Apparently it feels like I'm hitting her intestines now.

I am totally average in size.
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>>130516153
>phenibut
This isn't a "smart drug", it's a grey-area legal high. It's used for it's GABA agonist properties (just like alcohol, benzodiazepines, etc.).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3604470/
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>>130526387
>4 weeks to get your atrophied testicle back
xD
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>>130526611
Ayy fuck you, the other one is always small because of a varicocele.
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>>130525301
Do racetams actually work? I've done a lot of research but I'm still skeptical.
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>>130526773
Is it true everyone is Australia juices and has tattoo sleeves?
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>>130521914
I've stopped caffiene after I did an ancestry.com and found out I have a gene for caffiene anxiety and fast metabolism (it doesnt do shit for me, just makes me feel anxious chronically).

So far, feel legit fucking different. I like.
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>>130527068
I'm not kidding - 6 foot (minimum) and jacked is /normal/. Tattoos are becoming more and more normal as well - I'm an engineer so I don't hang around with too many degenerates.
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>>130527201
How do you run a country populated entirely with absolute lads?
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>>130527283
Easy mate, you let in the chinks and push beer 'culture'.
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Phenibut is great I take it with Vyvanse a few times a week
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Modafinil is the best. I have chronic fatigue and terrible attention issues. It helps me a good 12 hours and then I can sleep with no problem. I also don't feel jittery or anxious like other meds.
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>>130527393
So the chink's do all the nerdy stuff? This won't end well.
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>>130527452
You need to be removed from the gene pool
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>>130527544
Chinks seem smart, have you ever wondered why you see them walking in pairs holding hands?0.5brain + 0.5brain = 1brain.

srs though. Every one I have ever met has believed in ghosts/'fate'/alternative medicine. My brain theory explains why there is so many of them.
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>>130527452

try taking prebiotics if you can't sleep. unmodified potato starch for a month right before you go to bed.
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>>130526322
>believing that 200mg Test and tren will forever destroy your nads

Just take HCG and Temoxifan

And on the bonus side, all that extra blood flowing around and jerking off at least 3x daily has given about half and inch of girth and I always have an impressive semi
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>>130527544
Chinks are dumb as shit bro, they just get taught to cheat on tests. My mate is from Hong Kong and he legit says they teach you full all besides how to cheat and how to pass without really learning. According to him it is proper fucked because they all end up like soulless morons.

Plus if you let in all the chinks the value of pussy goes down dramatically. Mainly because asian culture is filled with white fever. So many asian girls go for white dudes it's scary, so the white girls aren't up their own arse. Plus all the girls are fairly hot here because you can catch a $200 flight into asia and get proper plastic surgery for cheap.
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>>130522451
fuck off back to plebbit fucking faggot
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>>130528352
Anyone who has done business with chinks knows you say the truth.
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>>130528999
>gore posting
auf wiedersehen Hans.
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>>130524973
t. Absolute degenerate
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>>130525201

i know, but i didn't notice any other effects from phenibut other than its similarity to muscle relaxers in the sense that it makes getting high better

it doesn't really work for anything else

>>130529310

because i enjoy drugs?
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>>130517593
3 hours, no effects.
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>>130531810
Take more than 250mg faggot.
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>>130516874

I think probiotics would have been a simpler alternative to all of these things. I'm not against smart drugs but anyone with an anxiety problem should start with probiotics or you may end up spending a fortune on supplements that could have a positive effect but may not work as well as they should because your gut flora is crap

http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2016/3/safely-reduce-anxiety-and-mood-disorders/page-01

"Both the valium-treated and the probiotic-supplemented animals showed significantly decreased anxiety and stress compared with the saline-only group, demonstrating that this simple probiotic combination has similar anxiety-reducing properties to those of a well-established anti-anxiety drug.5 "
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Do Phenibut once or twice.

Order it from liftmode and try three grams.

It made me feel in love and want to have sex. Do it with a girl. I'd say the euphoria is better at times than Molly.
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>>130533846
>tfw the shit eaters in your gut have more direct control over your mental state than you do
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>>130522833
>$1 dollar per oyster.

You think youll be spared from the day of the rope?
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>>130516873

I take 30mg dex daily prescribed. Only two years off IV meth addiction at 22. The dex got me off meth and it gives me no craving cause even a month script is less intense than a rush off a 50mg shot. No plan to get off cause I'm working for my CPA. I like it tho exercise makes the energy effect come back. I still tweak off these every day but I stay healthy now.
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Whoever did Phenibut:

I did like 5 grams first time (3+ more later) and my parents couldn't tell I was high and it was lifliftmode. Do 3g first time at least otherwise you'll sleep waiting for it to do much.
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>>130531810
take more dummy you took a tiny dose
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>>130516153
almost all of them you develop a tolerance for real fast. better off not using them at all and just improve your diet and exercise more, for the same effect.
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>>130516854
oysters are delicious
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>>130520173
it's really subtle just makes you feel a little more awake
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>>130531810
Phenibut is legit. It'll creep up on you if it hasn't already
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>>130519334
im pretty high test, i get boners every morning and im tall, thick beard very hairy (not a good thing imo). In spite of all that im still a lazy piece of shit with no fucking desire to do anything, maybe its cause I masturbate like 20 times a day or something.
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