The holocaust denial I see here is a meme right? Nobody is actually

>>130415555
I don't give a fuck about "Did the holocaust happen?" so much as I ask "what happened?"

>Jews in camps?
Happened
>Typhus and starvation in 1945
Sure happened
>Lampshade of Jew skin
nope
>jew fat soap
sorry
>Gas chambers
try again, please

>>130415555
never happened

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>>130415555
It's just a meme bro

>>130415555
define the holocaust. explain why you think holocaust denial makes you stupid.

>>130415981
no it's not, go and read "the tell the truth and shame the devil" and "the leuchter report"

Holocaust denial is a form of bullying. Only schizophrenic people or muslims or retards could possibly deny the holocaust for real.

>>130415555
Even if it did happen, it should have.

>>130415847
Why is it do hard to believe these things, because your basement boy mind wants to protect itself from the nature of man?
Weak!

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>>130416187
Hitler didn't set out to systematically kill all the Jews, but he should have.

Incoming 1 IP post by OP.

>>130415847
FPBP!

>>130415555
It's not a meme shlomo. It never happend

>>130415555
Oy vey only stupid people and bigots deny the holohoax goys.

>>130415847
This

>>130416210
No

>>130416227
Because they couldn't kill 6 million jews even if they killed 2500 a day every single day for 6 years straight

In this place you will find holocaust denials that on the other hand firmly believe 9999999999 billions dead by communism.

>>130416187
define the holocaust. explain why you think holocaust denial makes you a bully and a retard.

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>>130415555
The red cross proved it as bullshit.
The kikes use it to play victim. They like it that way, which is why the kikes who own all media never gave you a real jew superhero

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>>130415555
it is war faggot what did you think, camps are vacation place?

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>>130415555
>The holocaust denial I see here is a meme right? Nobody is actually stupid enough to deny the holocaust happened?

Welcome newfriend.

Embrace the stupid - Pro-nazi lies and distortions abound here on /pol/

>>130416356
And why do you think this would be an impossible feat? LOL
I guess by that logic the communists hasn't killed about 100 million either because muh high numbers

>>130416871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_cmbi3iIg
Hitler mentioned about a billion times he wanted to remove the jews, warned them etc

>>130415555
i dont deny that it happened its just that alot of the holocaust is pure nonsense like the lampshades/soapbars made out of human flesh and the death toll numbers.

also explain why being skeptical about an event in history especialy one like the holocaust is being "stupid"? it means youre not a gulleble idiot who takes everything by face valeu.

>>130415555
>muh six gorillion

What did Kek mean by this thread?

>>130415555
get the fuck out

>>130415555
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQTWsm0tYBM

>>130415555
I personally belive around 10,000 jews died so no I don't deny the holocaust.

>>130415555
Why should I mourn the death of a jew more than a german, russian, brit, jap or a burger?

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>>130415555
never mind that is worth 6months of starvation in that pick, If they were starved at the start of the war they would never had needed to been gassed and would have been much cheaper and efficient for the Germans to do.

>>130417128
Do he sent them to America and the UK you fucking dumbass. Why would he waste resources killing them during a multi front war?

>>130417616
*so

>>130417616
>remove the biggest enemy of mankind at the top of your power
hmmm

>>130415555
when people say they deny the holocause they mean there were no systematic death camps.
there were no systematic death camps.

>>130415555
It happened, just not the way you think it did. In particular, the 6 million figure, gas chambers, and burning bodies in ovens are lies.

>>130417128
>>130417734
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
and he have them the chance to leave natsoc germany strange huh?.

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>>130417384
It's just a Smallocaust

>>130417090
they had longer than six years..

>>130415555
noone is denying the holocaust completely, i think everbody here agrees that jews had a bad time in NS europa. they were persecuted, thousands shot on the eastern front and probably 150.000-1mio died in the camps.. but mostly of malnutrition and diseases.

we just dont buy into the hollywood propaganda of the evil sadistic germans gassing and burning millions of jews, and shooting them at sight without any reason for fun (schindlers list etc). making soap and lamps out of them.. that is just ridiculous propaganda.
do your rearch. you will realise that is just not possible physically and logistically.

even the official telling shows that these high numbers are very unrealistic: the official death toll for auschwitz was 4 million at first.. then 2 and then in the end 1 million while the 6 GORILLION didnt change at all.

>everything I don't like is a meme
(you)

>>130417616
lol there are like a billion narratives anyway
>there weren't enough jews to kill, there were like 4 million jews in europe
>there rest all immigrated to israel and USA
>their population didn't change tho, i saw it in this obscure encylopedia from 1946 when it wasn't sure how many of them were killed!

>>130417090
The communists shot their's and threw them in ditches, also mass starvation. The Nazis gassed and cremated 6 million people in about a year and a half allegedly. And that's walking it back from 'they had holocoasters and turned people into lampshades and masturbation machines and or elaborate deathtraps' which was the mantra for years after the war and survives in various 'totally true accounts of the holocaust'

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>>130415555

>>130417128
Even Benjamin Netenyahu has admitted that he Nazis never had any plans to kill the Jews

He puts the blame on the Shah of Iran

>>130419068
do you have a citation for that claim?

>>130415555
Waste of digits over holohoax

5000 bodies a day/1440 minutes a day/4 ovens


Now you understand why it is total BS

>>130415847
And the fucking bs about Hitler being a druggie. active my almonds

>>130415555
Here we go again

>>130415555
You waste of Quads. The holocaust is a hoax

>>130419384
there was more than one camp retard
and there was 7 ovens at larger camps
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/crematoria-and-gas-chambers-at-auschwitz-birkenau

how DARE you all deny the eternal truth of the holocaust! 6 billion innocent jews lost their lives in what can only be described as the worst massacre to ever disgrace G-d's green Earth!

>rollercoaster of death
HAPPENED!
>human skin lampshade
HAPPENED!
>germans washing themselves with spa made from the fatty left-behinds of burned Jewish bodies
HAPPENED!

>>130415555
Not constantly questioning the nature of both reality & historical accuracy is stupid, especially when it pertains to war.
History is written by the victors & it massively benefits them to portray the vanquished as having been as evil as possible, thus taking attention away from their own wartime atrocities.
Without a WILLFUL, purposeful holocaust, the ultimate bad guy from WWII would doubtless have been the US, for both creating & then being the only country to ever use nuclear weapons against another country, and on civilians of that country to boot.
Close second would still be allied nations for brutally firebombing the FUCK out of German & Japanese cities (again full of civilians).

I personally do not believe there was an intent to wipe out the people in the concentration camps, as the evidence for that is shaky at best & outright fabricated at worst. It was also completely unlike a hyperefficient nation like Nazi Germany to waste such a massive amount of resources on transporting what would have been essentially huge numbers of death row inmates all over the place in resource scarce wartimes, when the most efficient method of elimination woul;d have overwhelmingly been to shoot them where found instead.

Does anybody have the image that explains how many Jews would've had to die each minute if they had started exterminating Jews in 1933

>>130419966
not all camps where extermination camps some where work camps and in the case of auschwitz both.

>>130419214
let bibi source his own fucking material.

the true holocaust revisionists are the "historians & scholars" who have had to reimagine and rewrite the "authoritative records" in the face of contradictory evidence coming to the fore decade after decade

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>>130416356

Dumb Africans can kill 1 million in 100 days in the Rwandan genocide with machetes and clubs; but advanced Germans can't?

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>>130417090

>That flag
>These arguments

plebbit. Never change.

>>130420229
All camps were claimed as death camps until the Allies investigated them and then every camp that was investigated magically became a concentration camp. Meanwhile on the other side the soviets didn't allow the allies to investigate and every camp they investigated remained a death camp and by some twist of fate the concentration camps vs death camps became easily distinguished by which ended up in allied or soviet control during and after the war. As we know the soviets never had agendas and were the most truthful people to ever live.

>>130419967
the soap bar and human lampshades thing has already been debunked a long time ago as the jews where malnourished and what do you need to make soap? fat.

>>130416131
>the tell the truth and shame the devil
wtf does that have to do with anything?
Thats michael browns mome jewing it up for author career/bucks, or not?

>>130420692
Why bother shipping them all over the place &^ wasting resources on both that as well as controlling huge numbers of inmates in camps, overwhelmingly likely to revolt at every given opportunity, ESPECIALLY when they could not have fucking doubted they were in extermination camps if the stories were true?
Why not just fucking kill them outright where they were found & initially captured? It makes no sense.

I don't believe for one minute that 6 million jews were exterminated. It never happened.

>>130420692
Sure, if you have open bloodshed in the streets and just hack the bodies to pieces and do nothing with the remains. Now try that again except you had to round everybody up, ship them to a camp, keep them there for awhile, maybe give them a few test runs on the masturbation machine, then gas them, then gas them a few more times because numerous survivors claim to have survived repeated gassings, then load them into a holocoaster or other oven and burn the bodies completely while maintaining the constant logistics for all the gas and fuel you're using.

>>130415847
Fucking this. FPBP.

>>130421145
Oh and basically everyone had a personal anal probe from Dr. Mengele himself. He must've been very busy.

>>130421059
>Why not just fucking kill them outright where they were found & initially captured?

do you realy want your citizens to see that you are killing there fellow citizens could you imagen the damage that would cause to the states image?

also by just killing them you cant use them as cheap slave labour (work camps)

>>130420692

The scenarios we're completely different.

If anything the fact the germans didn't just kill every jew in the first 100 days of the war stacks up against the genocide argument.

They were in work camps.
They got sick and ran out of supplies
There was no gas chambers
The nazis treated many jews very harshly.
The number of deaths is greatly GREATLY exaggerated.
Most of the footage at the holocaust museum isn't even valid.

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>>130417090

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! THE JEWISH BOLSHEVIK COMMUNISTS KILLED 66 MILLION CHRISTIANS but 6 million j00ze dying in a span of 5 years? logistically, mathematically impossible.

t. nat-soc

>>130418605

nobody is alleging 6 million jews died in 1.5 years.

>>130421392
>do you realy want your citizens to see that you are killing there fellow citizens could you imagen the damage that would cause to the states image?
The entirety of Germany is supposed to feel guilty for this because everyone was complicit. Also they elected Hitler supposedly because he had made such a good scapegoat of the Jews that nobody cared. So which is it? Were the Germans terrible monsters who hated the Jews and easily allowed their extermination or did Hitler have to hide his secret hatred because the people wouldn't allow it? I know which one the Holocaust claims, so why are you being a denier?

>>130417182
You should be skeptical of everything, but you're an idiot if you think all points of view are worth considering.

>>130415555
Prisoners (including Jews) were in camps, Prisoners (including Jews) died mostly of Typhus, closer to 400,000 deaths overall most in the final 6 months of the war

That is all

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>>130418605

>masturbation machines
>holocoasters
>mantra for years after the war.
wrong again. just because these were published in some poorly read novels doesn't mean they were part of the official narrative (you know, backed by historians)

>elaborate death traps
these never got past the IMT

>muh IMT shall not be bound by evidence

still does not mean the IMT accepted this as fact during the sentencing.

>>130421744
if you elect a leader and that leader promises to deal with the jewish problem do you want to see them killing jews in youre neighberhood?

>so why are you being a denier?
im not a denier im just skeptical about some of the events that happened in the holocaust.

>>130421392
>damage that would cause to the states image?
They were fucking pioneers of & masters of propaganda, who (according to the popular portrayals) wanted to take over the world. Those already part of the Reich were allegedly all already on board with the jew hate & desire for elimination all along, so no problem there; your allied nations are all doing the same shit as you, so they don't care; and why would you give a fuck about how your image as seen by the countries you're fucking blitzkrieging over or planning to?

>by just killing them you cant use them as cheap slave labour (work camps)

But according to the lore, overwhelmingly more went straight from the trains to the gas chambers; why even bother shipping those there just to be killed? Easier & cheaper to setup a temporary camp on site, process, send the potential workers to the main camps, execute the rest & any potential witnesses (again, if you care).

>>130415555
We don't believe that it didn't happen, but we sure as hell dont believe that 6 quadrillion Jews died, the real figure is more in the 50,000's, more along the lines of the jap camps we had.

>>130421503
>If anything the fact the germans didn't just kill every jew in the first 100 days of the war stacks up against the genocide argument.

How could they possibly just kill every Jew in the first 100 days of the war when at that point most of the Jews in Europe were outside their reach?

Just admit that the "they couldn't do it" is a bad argument and move on.

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>>130416131

Tell the truth and Shame the Devil is so full of errors that part of it has been refuted here:

i.imgur.com/ZRPWuOY

>>130422221
>who (according to the popular portrayals) wanted to take over the world

in the reich listening to foreign news was illigal for propaganda to work you need to keep other contradictory information out just look at the soviets with pravda.

>>130415555
It's a thought experiment at best.
I had been wondering how much of it is Allied propaganda but... I guess I can believe that, even if there were only five million Semites in Europe (Germany did try to invade Russia (not part of Europe and assumed Semitic by default), of whom they considered Slavs to be inferior anyway), that six million (out of a total of eleven million people in concentration camps) could have been killed.
In short, to dismiss discrepancies, I consider it possible that the statistics are inflated by a few million dead Russians.

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>>130422048
>The prisoners' day began at 4:30 am (an hour later in winter) with morning roll call. Dr. Miklós Nyiszli describes roll call as beginning 03:00 and lasting four hours. The weather was cold in Auschwitz at that time of day, even in summer. The prisoners were ordered to line up outdoors in rows of five and had to stay there until 07:00, when the SS officers arrived.[117] Meanwhile, the guards would force the prisoners to squat for an hour with their hands above their heads or levy punishments such as beatings or detention for infractions such as having a missing button or an improperly cleaned food bowl. The inmates were counted and re-counted.[118] Nyiszli describes how even the dead had to be present at roll call, standing supported by their fellow inmates until the ordeal was over. When he was a prisoner in 1944–45, five to ten men were found dead in the barracks each night.[119] The prisoners assigned to Mengele's staff slept in a separate barracks and were awoken at 07:00 for a roll call that only took a few minutes.[120]
Here, have some 'official' bullshit. Straight from easy mode Wikipedia.

Have some more
>Initially the victims were killed with gas vans or by Einsatzgruppen firing squads, but these methods proved impracticable for an operation of this scale.[137] By 1942, killing centers at Auschwitz, Sobibór, Treblinka, and other Nazi extermination camps replaced Einsatzgruppen as the primary method of mass killing.[138]
>Bullets are inefficient and impractical, better transport, store, gas and burn each person instead

Pic related is one of the 'gas vans' except oops, no it isn't. These were 'widely used' but they couldn't even find a picture of one and this thing supposedly became not for extermination as soon as somebody bothered to look at it.

>>130415847
there were also SS divisions going around killing jews on the front/occupied territories

in addition there were SS commanders who got jewish labour battalions and executed them all

basically it's hitler's fault the jews got killed because he stirred up the hatred for them in his own countrymen. However he never ordered and such actions and actually tried to stop his soldiers/commanders from wasting resources/manpower/labour killing jews

>>130417286
the next one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VWyevfJTlw
is also good

>>130422221
>and why would you give a fuck about how your image as seen by the countries you're fucking blitzkrieging over or planning to?

The fact is that the Nazi media continuously disputed the reports of the massacres they've committed. Your argument is irrelevant.

>>130422221
>more went straight from the trains to the gas chambers


agian auschwitz was both a work camp and a extermanation camp.

>>130422582
>listening to foreign news was illegal
Then why give a fuck about what is portrayed in it?
Anyone who questions it too hard is in violation of the law.

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>>130416583

""""Red Cross Report""""""

nice hoax you got there, pal.

>>130422472
>opens up with muh antisemites and neo natzees
>adhoms the rest
>no citations of anything
Wow rly maek me thonk

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>>130417855

>he does not know about:

Intentionalism vs. Functionalism

>>130422087
>do you want to see them killing jews in youre neighberhood?
The Nazis were literally fine killing anybody in anybody's neighborhood. Its one of the ways they came into power. Then at some point they randomly stopped doing that where their 'most hated enemy' was concerned and for some reason decided to kill them in overly elaborate and ridiculous ways. And yes, putting people in a gas chamber and then cremating them is overly elaborate and ridiculous. It takes a tremendous amount of engineering and expertise to kill someone with a gas chamber without fucking yourself in the ass.

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>>130422653

How is the first paragraph bullshit? Please explain. The "tägliches Appell" process is accepted by historians, survivors and pretty much everyone as fact. I havent even seen many deniers attack this part.

>2nd paragraph

Not because bullets are inefficient, but because the killers arent robots and started cracking under PTSD. On the other hand, you can kill over 1000 people in a gas chamber without having to see them, just drop the zyklon through the holes and be about your day, while the jewish sonderkommando are the ones tasked into getting them into the chamber and sealing the door, and then removing the corpses from the chamber, cremating them etc.

>>130423087
you forget that the people who died of typhus needed to be desposed of or the disease would spread what is one of the best ways to despose of a sick body?
burning it.

theres a good case to be made for the ovens not so much for the "gas chambers"


>Then at some point they randomly stopped doing that
take it with a grain of salt but the "official" "reason" why the stopped diong street exicutions where because the men got psychological problems of it.

>>130423423
>Not because bullets are inefficient, but because the killers arent robots and started cracking under PTSD.


but removing and cremating hunderds of bodies wont give a soldier pdst huh?
not even to mention the guilt one would face by diong that.

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>>130415555

Where are the documents, where are the bodies, and why is the death count wildly shifting constantly?

>>130423477
Yeah, remember the 6 gorillion systematically killed by typhus that needed to be burned. The entire point here is that the number is inflated dingus, they can have ovens for cremation as long as they aren't having to fucking cremate 6 million (really 11 million because of more dumb jew math) within a few years.

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>>130423650

>soldiers were removing and cremating the bodies

wew lad, it's like you aren't even trying anymore. go back and re-read my comment.

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>>130423423
I see someone else on this board is educated on the Holocaust. You're doing good so far, BTFOing all their claims, but it won't matter. These people already have their minds made up to the point where the only thing that would convince them is an HD video of Hitler dropping gas pellets into a gas chamber himself

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>>130415555

>when they gas you with so much zyklon B you begin to lose weight and show symptoms of typhus - and then burn you in an oven.

Or perhaps we're wondering why nazis would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane?

>>130423789
>while the jewish sonderkommando
oh sorry i made a mistake no need to be such a faggot about it.
>>130423729
did you not read my comment? i said there a case to be made for the ovens since alot of sick bodies would need to be cremated.

>>130423423
>B-but they didn't kill them because they needed them for labor, that's why they didn't just execute them or send them all straight to the gas chamber, silly goy
>You know, the hard labor of making sure they're useless at labor by having them stand in the cold for hours every day for funsies because those evil nazis right guys?

>>130423944

that's why I have a blog:

imgur.com/a/725A7

Where every claim is addressed, from the Auschwitz water table to whether the gas chambers were heated or not. I'm one of the few people in the world apart from nizkor and holocaust controversies who engages with deniers.

>>130419214
This is what the lad was talking about http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-accused-of-absolving-hitler-for-holocaust/

6 million jews did not die in the holocost
Jews acknowledge this, because actual Jews don't recognize "half-Jews" or the many people of Germany at the time who claimed to be Jewish but never practiced as Jews.
Secular Israel based propaganda companies looking to make a buck off of fear mongering don't acknowledge that the 6 million included Gypsies, gays, blacks, political dissenters...etc.
The different stars indicated what stratum of "degeneracy" you were, there were many kinds other than Jews.
To me the reason Jews are brought up all the time in regards to the Holocaust is because nobody expected the Jews to really be persecuted. Minorities always get screwed, but Jews being killed on mass was only thought of at rare times like Masada or Egyptian slavery (both events were huge historical events). So people didn't believe and still don't that Jews were targeted, or they believe that Jews were exclusively targeted.
Look at it this way, ICE in America doesn't only target Mexicans. It also targets illegals from any country. But anyone who's involved with it knows it affects Mexicans for the most part and that was the plan in the first place. In the future, maybe ICE will be viewed as something more or less than it is.

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>>130421637

There's evidence for one event.

>>130415555
Where is the proofs

>>130422472
That's a crappy analysis regardless of who is correct.

>>130424141
>I'm one of the few people in the world apart from nizkor and holocaust controversies who engages with deniers

doesnt that say something about this whole facade? that only a few people actualy want to argeu about this event in history instead of making hatespeech laws about it?

>>130417286
http://whatreallyhappened.info/
direct link

>>130419967

There's also a story about soviet trucks being uses to pump diesel exhaust into chambers of jews.

This myth falls apart because A: the nazis had their own trucks so why would they use a soviet truck and B: diesel exhaust is actually safest to breath which is why they use diesel engines for mine generators and underground construction

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>>130424490
>Do we deny the Holocaust?
>Like "Do we still beat our wives (or husbands)?" the question is impossible to answer as it is based on a false assumption. "Holocaust denial" is a simplistic Newspeak term, designed to shut down discussion by falsely presenting the issue as black or white, all or nothing, and implying that anyone questioning any part of it must have malicious motives. The truth is more complex.
This. I am real tired of people calling people who merely question the holocaust a denier.

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>>130422655
>Killed
>Jews

The only reason Hitler is a polarizing figure today is because he exposed the Jews

>>130424141
alright can we reach a logical middle ground?
the lampshades and soap made of human flesh is debunked
zyclon b contains prussic acid (hydrogen cynide) and is not a delousing agent.

and the numbers are up to debate.

>>130424474
>doesnt that say something about this whole facade? that only a few people actualy want to argeu about this event in history instead of making hatespeech laws about it?
Well for one most people don't know the history so they wouldn't want to argue it and secondly, you're a rather small minority that isn't taken very seriously so it's fairly easy to justify shutting you down.

If it makes you feel any better, most of these 'denial laws' cover most other genocides too

>>130424141
>what made me create this blog for free
Why do you talk about free/paid in both "blog" posts? Why is that relevant to the reader?

>>130415555
>5555 Czeched
Also, holohoax never happened

>>130424875
Zyclon B was literally an insecticide that was widely used until the 50's.

>>130424982
>Well for one most people don't know the history
thats the thing most people have only heard the pc version of the holocuast and natsoc germany before i stated to lurk on /pol/ i did not even know that natsoc meant national socialist.

>denial laws' cover most other genocides too

youre free to denie the armenian genocide or the soviet genocides.

>>130425238
you know why the b is in zyclon?

where a team of chemists that included Walter Heerdt (de) and Bruno Tesch developed a method of packaging hydrogen cyanide in sealed canisters along with a cautionary eye irritant and adsorbent stabilizers. The new product was also named Zyklon, but it became known as Zyklon B to distinguish it from the earlier version. Uses included delousing clothing and disinfesting ships, warehouses, and trains.

there are diffrent versions of it.

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>>130424875

lampshades yes, turned out to be a hoax
>j00fatsoap yes, turned out to be a rumor

But small quantities of a soap-like substance made from human corpses by a German doctor (Prof. Spanner) at Stutthof near Danzig however is NOT debunked. read here:

i.imgur.com/tstQKvB

>>130424280

you can begin by showing me the 66 million corpses that, unlike the holocaust, are said to have been NOT cremated. or you can show me half that. or even a third? oh dear.

>>130425301
>youre free to denie the armenian genocide or the soviet genocides.

Not everywhere

>>130425537
You sound like a majorly butt hurt Jew. You don't bother with your own sources, and you use image board speak.

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>>130424991
>Holohoax blog
>Makes clear it is free

It makes you thonk

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>>130424630

>and B: diesel exhaust is actually safest to breath which is why they use diesel engines for mine generators and underground construction

go huff some diesel exhaust in a closed room for 30 mins and prove everyone wrong then. diesel exhaust is a lot safer than gasoline exhaust yes, but I'd like to see you survive in a 12% CO2 environment when our atmosphere only has like 0.04% CO2

>>130425879
I'll revise that, you have some sources. But really if you want your writing to be taken seriously, take the emotional tone out of it.

Watch this Fag : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5sbegfCz7o

Reminder that 4chan and 99% of everyone posting on it are controlled opposition/google bots, that history and news have forever been fabricated to direct 'the masses' opinions and strengthen Masonic-Judeo-Whateverism and that the internet is a form of thought control.

>>130425537
alright i have another qeustion.

Thus fingernails can’t leave marks in concrete when scratching it. If concrete is scratched by fingernails, only a fingernail powder will be left on the scratched concrete surface (but no furrow) because fingernails are softer than concrete.

How to Use a MOH's Hardness Pick Set on Concrete - WerkMaster.mov - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d7lSC-_4vok [Embed]

>Hardness Test - Before the Polish - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zn0C6-afHQw [Embed]

>MIT Concrete Sustainability Hub (CSHub) - Micro-Scratch Test - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iNy5KS2VXPY [Embed]

Fingernail’s Mohs hardness = 2.5 (some sources say 2.2)
Concrete’s Mohs hardness = 5 to 9 (depend on the type of concrete)

>>130424875

No. 6 million died. Questioning this openly is literally a crime.

All joking aside...

what the holocaust deniers tend to do is chip away at the accepted facts and expose the many myths about the holocaust.

Then, when you've exposed 100s of little lies you turn around and say there was no premeditated plan to genocide a whole race.

Even though there was.

But because people have accepted the 100 little lies they believe that the whole thing was a lie and never happened.


Here is what I believe happened.

1. Genocide took place
2. The allies use this as war propaganda after the war to "reeducate" the german people and get them to believe that Nazism = bad, western liberal capitalism = good (bear in mind there was still the real threat of communist revolution in the west)
3. The jews use this as an excuse to create Israel (part of this is the 6 million number as its part of their prophecy)

Finally number 7 --- the important one --- the genocide is forever used to discredit all Nationalist thought because "if you believe in X it ends in gas chambers"

This is the important one. And the one that has had the largest impact on us white people. We are no longer allowed to do anything that is in our own interests as "it ends in gas chambers"

>>130426050
The emissions from a gasoline engine are more deadly. They contain large amounts of CO which kills very quickly. Modern diesel have a particulate filter which eliminates all soot. Overall I think diesels are less hazardous than gas engines.

you can get cancer from them tho.

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>>130426254

where am I claiming (or where are historians claiming) that the marks inside the remaining Auschwitz gas chamber's walls were caused by human fingernails?

If you have a scholarly link of the mainstream alleging this (rather than some newspaper article or blog post) let me know.

Those marks were caused by tourists in the decades that followed, probably using their keys.

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>>130426267
>The jews use this as an excuse to create Israel
israel was created because the balour declarement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

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>>130426729

just like these ones in one of the inmate barracks today.

>>130426729
Dario Gabbai, a former Jewish prisoner of Auschwitz said: “They were screaming—all the people, you
know—they didn’t know what to do, scratching the walls, crying until the gas took effect. If I close
my eyes, the only thing I see is standing up—women with children in, in their hands, there.

a derict quote.

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>>130415555

>Nobody is actually stupid enough to deny the holocaust happened?

>>130426267

So the interesting thing about the holocaust deniers is that once they kill the daemon of the holocaust they are free to actually think about racial politics and what has happened to them and their race.

They (we all have) been raised to believe that the two are intertwined. That you must not think about those things because "it ends with gas chambers".

How about this for a fucking red pill. The chinese can be proud of their race and their achievements and it doesn't naturally end in gas chambers. So can we!

>>130426844

You know, maybe all those class trips weren't such a good idea...

>>130415555

I never understood why so many people basically put remembering this genocide, if it happened even on such a pedestal.

Genocide is a common occurrence in human history, it's when two groups, usually ethnic groups live in the same area, fail to cooperate and communicate and one gains a military upper hand.

It has happened everywhere in all it's forms from Romans basically cucking the rest of Italy to death, to multiple forced migrations like the huns driving out the germanics from modern day Romania. To basically killing everyone like what the Turks did to the Greeks and Armens.

>>130421637

>5 years

the claims of mass gassings and cremation that supposedly claimed the majority of the victims only purportedly took place between 1942 and 1944

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So called "holocaust denial" is now mainstream. Get with the current year.

>>130426823

funny how the balfour declaration was during ww1 yet the jews got jewed by the british govt and didnt get israel even though the entente were de facto the victors of ww1?

hitler's holocaust got jews israel (after 50 years of previous lobbying ever since theodor herzl memed the idea into modernity again) and not the balfour declaration.

>>130426123
>You sound like a majorly butt hurt Jew
>But really if you want your writing to be taken seriously, take the emotional tone out of it.
ayyyyy lamo

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>>130426928

how is that quote relevant? you and I both know that was Dario Gabbai's imagination, unless you have any kind of testimony confirmation that he was looking into the gas chamber through the spyhole? And even if some did claw, it wouldnt have left many marks.

>>130415555
I am mostly denying it's importance.
There was worst and for what Judaism preach I can really give no shit.

>>130420836
>As we know the soviets never had agendas and were the most truthful people to ever live.

yea of course! it's not like soviet union was a jewish creation

>>130427294
I'm not the one writing a blog.

>>130427086

>6 million jews were gassed in a span of 5 years.

that is the strawman you needed to make, something I never said, to then refute me.

>>130427139
hitler's holocaust got jews israel
thats treu he did make a deal with the zionist to transport some jews to israel before the holocaust officaly began.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

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>>130415555
They say a picture is "speaks" a thousand words. Even if they have to fabricate it.

>>130427417
so can we both agree that the lampshades and the fingenail scrathings have been debunked?

if so we can move on to the numbers..
either way glad we found some common ground.

>>130427842

woooohhh calm down there matey.

Just because that literally happened you can't go around openly talking about it.

The former major of London was expelled from his party for mentioning that "fact"

>>130415555
no one here is stupid enough to believe something without evidence, only facts and truth matters here, whatever you prove to be truth is what people go with


if the best argument for holocaust is trying to shame people like this then the kike shills are doomed

>>130427090

The number "5" was cherry-picked by Wiesenthal, yes.

But nobody is saying the Nazis did NOT deliberately kill millions of non-jewish, non-combatants that WASN'T collateral damage by bombing etc.

The number varies depending on your criteria. Only homosexuals, aktion t4 victims, gypsies and political non-jewish prisoners? then less than 1 million. Include soviet disarmed POW deaths? Additional 3 million. Include Siege of Leningrad civilian starvation victims? Another 1 million etc.

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>>130415847

>>130428181

**mayor

>>130428181
it still baffels me to this day that you cant denie or be skeptical about the holocaust the truth doesnt fear investigation.

hell that austrian is one of the few who actualy put the effort into descussing it rationally with me instead of posting muh denier muh antisemite.

>>130428031
>this is not k98
lol what?

Did you know you can only survive 3 days without water?

>>130428466

How many deniers actually make rational arguments instead of posting stupid image macros and jabbering about "kikes"?

>>130428724
Honestly it's easier to post the image that raises the argument than rewriting it every time.
Obviously they keep reposting the same shit is, because one one is taking the time to debunk them.

>>130428466

It's because so much is built on top of it.

The real thing they fear is a resurgence of nationalism.

"Does X benefit me and my nation"

You can not have an empire if all the little countries in it start demanding they want things to be done for the interests of their people not the interests of their international rulers

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>>130427842

pretty much everyone who has looked up the holocaust knows about the haavara agreement, kindly stop pretending you're parading around top secret information (((they))) dont want YOU to know...

too bad only 60,000 jews escaped the holocaust this way. How much % is 60,000 out of a pre-war European Jewish population of 9.4 million, again? Exactly.

>>130428181

>a political party is comprised of historians and not people seeking the slightest excuse to replace each other

you wont have an illustrious political career if you stick to truth

>>130415555
Fuck'n shlomos pushing holohoax every fucking day.

>>130428279
why do you insist on lying about Weasel's claims? The other 5 million were claimed to be killed in gas chambers at death camps alongside the jews. He wasn't talking about combat deaths at fucking Leningrad.

>>130428279
>Only homosexuals, aktion t4 victims, gypsies and political non-jewish prisoners? then less than 1 million. Include soviet disarmed POW deaths? Additional 3 million. Include Siege of Leningrad civilian starvation victims? Another 1 million etc.

those are not official death tolls just estimates.
the death tol for the euthenasia program are 70,273from the wiki.
ill find the death numbers for the others later.

>>130428994
no need to be a prick about it mate.
can you provide a citation about the number of jews in germany (during natsoc germany)?

>>130428965
>Honestly it's easier to post the image that raises the argument than rewriting it every time.

Yeah, that's the problem, it's TOO easy. It's so easy that even a complete moron can do it.

>>130415555
The only thing Hitler did wrong was he didn't finish the job.

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>>130418917
it's pretty comfy in here

>>130417963
kek @ smallocaust

>>130428994
>pretty much everyone who has looked up the holocaust knows about the haavara agreement,


you would be supprised how many people dont know about simple things like the haavara agreement and the balour declarement not even to mention the fucking numbers.

>>130415555
If the holocaust didn't happen, then how come there were survivors from the gas chambers who lived to tell the tale? Checkmate nazis, get fucked by bbc in jail for hate speech, faggots

>>130415555
Muh roads

>>130429487
> then how come there were survivors from the gas chambers who lived to tell the tale?

if it happened it's a good question

>>130429272
That doesn't negate the fact that it is an argument being brought forward.
Yes many morons spew their nonsense, but if it is rightfully debunked instead of ignored, insulted, laughed at, or whatever then it can easily be put to rest.
I guess in other words if someone took the time to put the counter arguments in pictures then the opposing side could easily reply.

>>130429155

>>130429155

>confusing Wiesenthal with Elie Wiesel

and we begin with a weak performance, even though I like you d.ubs. You can finish your argument by bringing forth evidence that Simon Wiesenthal, when he said the holocaust had apart from 6 million jewish, also 5 million non-jewish victims, that he said these additional 5 million non-jewish victims all died in the camps.

>>130415555
Funny that its always an all or nothing package.

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>>130415847
/thread

>>130415555
Never fucking happened, it should have!
Hitlers only crime was taking control of banking from (((them))) and turning Germany into a debt free superpower!
the jews in camps were paid and fed, they starved when supply lines were cut off! not single person was gassed, all bodies were burned during the winter because the ground was to frozen to bury people.. there were no ovens! it's impossible to this day to cremate that many bodies in that short amount of time!
go watch "Marching to Zion"

>>130429605
>then it can easily be put to rest.

That's the thing, it CAN'T BE. That's the nature of image macros, they get re-posted over and over again.

>I guess in other words if someone took the time to put the counter arguments in pictures then the opposing side could easily reply.

Yes, so instead of an actual debate, people are just going to throw image macros at each other. Brilliant.

>>130429631
alright take it with a grain of salt but here are the numbers of the jewish population in ww2 germany along with some other countries the germans annexed.

In prewar central Europe, the largest Jewish community was in Germany, with about 525,000 members (0.75% of the total German population). This was followed by Hungary with 445,000 (5.1%), Czechoslovakia with 357,000 (2.4%), and Austria with 191,000, most of whom resided in the capital city of Vienna (2.8%).

There were also significant Jewish communities in Yugoslavia (68,000, or 0.49%), Italy (48,000, or 0.11%), and Bulgaria (48,500, or 0.8%). 200 Jews (0.02%) lived in Albania.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005161

>>130429902
I would say that there definitely were crematories, but not enough to burn the claimed amount of people. It was war after all, and people did die, so crematories were definitely not out of the question.

>>130415555
/pol/ denies holocaust numbers. In reality it wasn't 6 million it was 6 gorillion. Oy vey it's still real in my mind.

>>130430188
the would probably premerly be used for burning the bodies of people infected with typhus or other sicknesses as you would want to despose of those as quickly as possible.

i suspect the others would be dumped into mass graves.

Wenn Du wissen willst, wer dich beherrscht, musst Du nur herausfinden, wen Du nicht kritisieren darfst

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in our mind it was real goy

>>130430050
You are arguing about the style and forum of arguing on an image board. Where people post images and talk about them. Go find an image macro you don't like and construct an argument to it.

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>>130429225

>can you provide a citation about the number of jews in germany (during natsoc germany)?

Initially by 1933 about 500k

Between 1933 and 1939, more than 300,000 Germans, of whom about 90% were Jews, applied for immigration visas to the United States. By 1940, only 90,000 German Jews had been granted visas and allowed to settle in the United States. Some 100,000 German Jews also moved to Western European countries, especially France, Belgium, and the Netherlands. However, these countries would later be occupied by Germany, and most of them would still fall victim to the Holocaust. Another 48,000 emigrated to the United Kingdom and other European countries.[57][58]

Not hard to find:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Germany#Jews_under_the_Nazis_.281933.E2.80.9345.29

Addressing Ken Livingstone's quote:

"Let’s remember when Hitler won his election in 1932, his policy then was that Jews should be moved to Israel. He was supporting Zionism – this before he went mad and ended up killing six million Jews."

Livingstone wasnt entirely correct because there was no Israel at the time, he should have said "moved to Palestine", and secondly he was not supporting Zionism because Zionism calls for the establishment of a jewish state. Hitler wanted the opposite, namely for his buddy Hajj Amin Al Husseini, the grand mufti of jerusalem, to exterminate the Jews in the Middle East after the war.

Maybe that's why he was kicked out - for lying about history - after all.

>>130415555
Guys in pic were held long enough to get pretty skinny. Lucky they weren't in a "death" camp.

>>130430521

I wasn't the one who started complaining about a "lack of rational discussion"

>>130416583
>red cross
Late in the war, after D-Day and the invasion of Normandy, the Nazis permitted representatives from the Danish Red Cross and the International Red Cross to visit Theresienstadt in order to dispel rumours about the extermination camps. The commission that visited on June 23, 1944, included E. Juel-Henningsen, the head physician at the Danish Ministry of Health, and Franz Hvass, the top civil servant at the Danish Foreign Ministry. Dr. Paul Eppstein was instructed by the SS to appear in the role of the mayor of Theresienstadt.

Weeks of preparation preceded the visit. The area was cleaned up, and the Nazis deported many Jews to Auschwitz to minimise the appearance of overcrowding in Theresienstadt. Also deported in these actions were most of the Czechoslovak workers assigned to "Operation Embellishment". The Nazis directed the building of fake shops and cafés to imply that the Jews lived in relative comfort.

The Danes whom the Red Cross visited lived in freshly painted rooms, not more than three in a room. Rooms viewed may have included the homes of the "prominent" Jews of Theresienstadt, who were afforded the special privilege of having as few as two occupants to a room. The guests attended a performance of a children's opera, Brundibár, which was written by inmate Hans Krása.

The Red Cross representatives were conducted on a tour following a predetermined path designated by a red line on a map. The representatives apparently did not attempt to divert from the tour route on which they were led by the Germans, who posed questions to the Jewish residents along the way. If the representatives asked residents questions directly, they were ignored, in accordance with the Germans' instructions to the residents prior to the tour. Despite this, the Red Cross apparently formed a positive impression of the town
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresienstadt_concentration_camp

>>130430050
I have scene image macros debunking some of the claims that people argue over. That in itself is a form of argument. Im not saying that everything should be reduced to images, but it is a quick way to reply to or bring up a constantly brought up argument.
>>130430521
pretty much this

>>130430699
Technically yeah you did.
>>130428724

>>130415555
If the holocaust was real then how come im not sad about it?

Checkmate triple kikes

>>130430600
>>130430064
read my previous post i already found it.
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?


so now where giong to have to count up the numbers if you include the annexed country's.

the original claim was 6 million jews not ciounting the others.

>>130431014

Look at the post I was responding to.

>>130415555
I don't deny it, because its not worth denying:

>You are called an idiot.
>I find it sketchy on both sides. -not enough evidence to deny it-
>I like to think it actually happened and that we could kill six million kikes quickly.

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>>130431097

this should help

>>130423423
>be a nazi
>enjoy beating jews just for fun
>make lampshades and soap from their bodies
>have really good time while doing it
>get ptsd when shooting them

>>130431299
alright the annexed nederland belguim the had italy france denmark? (ukriane for a while) latvia finland hungary and romenia i might have missed some correct me if im wrong.

>>130431299
Why not post the numbers right after the war?

>>130415555
do you deny usa mass produced bombers (death machines) that burned to death hundreds of thousands of noncombatants?

so you want to show a pic of starving people, yet starvation is a result of disease and supply shortages from bombing.

so what is your point? what does starving people show? can you please show footage of the PROVEN victims of German women and children and elderly BURNED TO DEATH?

why not remind us that the ALLIES did this? and before they even "liberated" the so called "death camps"

Allies turned the entire nation of germany into a death camp, and then pick out the jews that starved as proof that the germans mass murdered them,.

people that worship the holocaust are LITERAL morons.

>>130431299
They're all in USA now

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>>130431355

>beating and manhandling prisoners in prison-garb under an excuse (not working hard enough, disobedience etc.) has the same psychological impact as dragging civilians incl. women, children and infants from towns, marching them into a forest and putting a bullet into the back of their skulls one after another on the edge of a mass grave and then dumping their naked corpses into said pit

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>>130431693

>>130431285
see
>>130426929
Its not a black and white, yes or no situation.

>>130431299
alright i got 8467000 i might have missed some annexed country's so take it with a grain of salt.
>>130432065
ill doublecheck it.

if the germans mass murdered them then why did they let them starve to death? it literally makes no sense. its like

"oh here are starving people kept alive, this proves gas chambers"

plenty of people starved. Concentration camps were mainly in poland, which was like hell on earth for most of the war.

but I am sure Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo, Berlin were far, far, far worse than being hungry at a work camp. i am sure digging your charred family out of the ruins is far far worse than being hungry at a guarded work camp who the allies are not firebombing.

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>>130431775

>right after the war

there were no accurate censuses right after the war, because nobody had counted the dead yet. What we had were pre-war censuses with mathematical population growth projections which would have worked, had there been no war and no genocide. The first accurate post-war census was in 1950

>>130416271
>europe will not survive without niggers
What did she mean by this?

>>130431942
i don't know about you but i would rather just shoot someone than gas him 5 times and then put his body in a soap machine.

>>130432234

considering only 26,000 people died in Dresden during the allied firebombing, I'm sure it was a safer city to live in throughout the course of the war than any of the bigger concentration camps that had a higher death toll. even hamburg, with its 40,000 deaths, is preferable to e.g. Buchenwald with 56,000 dead

>>130417402
This is the thing, somehow we don't value the deaths of the millions on innocent goyim of Europe or Russia. The suffering of Jews is more immoral than the suffering of anyone else

>>130415555
Yes goy, 6 million of my people died because whites wanted a country of their own. Feel sorry and never make any more white kids goy

>>130419502
He was.. just google Thomas Morell

Also, the holocaust did happen. The number is too high tho. Officially it is 5,7 million, however I believe it to be around 3,5 million

>>130432701
that treu the others are almost never mentioned especially in the case of the holocaust.

>>130432701
Its the idea that minorities are more important.
Diversity(less white people) is the key!

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>>130432701

>the total number of dead (civilian and military) is more important rather than the number of civilian dead who were put to death either by gas, by shooting or by labor attribution solely because of who they were.

>>130432553
yeah that would make more sense. but of course nothing about the "holocaust" makes sense. it is just lies reinforced with other lies.

meanwhile we turn a blind eye to the fact that Germany was literally turned into a crematorium in some places for no reason other than to terrorize and kill as many people as possible.

and then we see the "nuremberg trials" and we are suppose to look at it like some ultimate example of human compassion and justice in the face of "evil nazis"

yes Nuremberg had just been bombed by the allies, 10s of thousands of innocent women and children murdered! but the germans go on trial for bullshit! it is so blitherly idiotic. and people argue bla bla bla about number of jews in Europe. bla bla bla bla. its just dusty old statistics. the truth is there were no gas chambers and there was no organized mass murder of jews. there just wasn't. and even if there possibly was, that does not justify the allies mass producing death machines and brutally murdering women and children in tens, hundreds of thousands or even thousands of thousands.

>>130417855
+ of course world Jewry declared war on Germany in 1933, how could you have people who have declared war on you at large in your society that is at war
There therefore had to be a solution of some sort.

Hmm the Rothschildes needed a population for their new satanic country, hmmm where could they get soem Jews from, I wonder

>>130432234

Here's the chain of events

>let's round up people that we don't like and just imprison them to score political points
>since we have them imprisoned might as well make them work on something
>it costs too much to keep a huge amount of people locked up for years in camps so let's give them less food since there's a war going on and we can't spare resources
>you know what, let's just start killing off weaker ones that are not productive
>on second thought resources as so scarce let's just kill them all off since we don't really give a shit about them either way and it's not like we're ever going to allow them back into society again

Regardless of how many death you believe happened the nazis would never allow the prisoners to reintegrate into society. They were just providing free labor and would eventually be disposed of. There was no justice involved in any of this and it was cold and methodical.

>>130432666
truth is no one knows for sure how many people died at dresden. And dresden is just 1 af MANY cities firebombed. and even if it were 26000, it doesn't justify it. just like you would say that if 26000 people died at auschwitz you would go "well why does the number matter!"

but dresden was not the only place destroyed mercilessly, and bombers were not the only way allies murdered people.

so really you are just a mark of the beast idiot, 666>>130432666

>>130428699
The front sight at the barrel of the K98 isn't as high as in the photo.
The rear sight of the rifle in the photo is non-existant. The Mauser's is raised.
The sloping profile of the rifle more closely matches the M24.

>>130433180
They were in fact prisoners of war.

>>130433090
thats nonsense britian and france declared war on natsoc germany because the invaded poland (funny since the soviets invaded 2 weeks later and got a slap on the wrist) there where economic boycots by jews tho.

>>130416227
I don't enjoy spreading lies or foolishly believing them. Stupid cuckistani

>>130422435
he is questioning the fact that how its explained today is that the germans spent a lot of resources rounding them up and transporting them around, if you wanted to get rid of them like in the real genocides that we compare them with then they would do like the people who actually committed genocide and kill them on the spot.

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>>130433222
the firbombing of dresden and the nuking of japan are allied warcrimes nobody is giong to denie that but there semi "justifiable".

but if youre giong that rabit hole you might ass well say the holocaust was justified.

>>130433180

this. This is why Functionalism > Intentionalism. Also:

>jews are the problem, how do we deal with them?
>lets send some of them to palestine
>not many went. let's remove them from any position of power that'll teach them
>they're still in our country. let's prevent them from race-mixing with us (Nuremberg laws)
>they're still here though. Let's make our own people aware of their presence by making them wear the yellow star
>If another world war happens, it will have been started by jews
>world war happens
>fine. Time to clear this filth out of germany
>let's send them to madagascar, which is under french control, but vichy france can help us out
>vichy france navy destroyed by british
>let's send them eastward
>operation barbarossa grinds to halt
>can't send them eastward, still in europe, what do we do with them?
>pick the healthy ones, make them work
>what about the useless eaters?
>I have a plan

It's called the final solution for a reason.

>>130433377
Wakey wakey

Just a meme bro xxxxxdddddd LOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLO, praise kek

>>130433180
Everyone seems to forget that the jews were being deported to palestine.before the war.
Totally goes against the idea that Hitler wanted the jews dead though so thats why.

>>130433610
did you not read my post?
>>130433377
i said there where economic boycots by jews tho.

it also says its an economic boycot in the newspaper.

>>130433638
>>they're still here though. Let's make our own people aware of their presence by making them wear the yellow star

The Rothschilde Hexagram

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>>130415555
>The holocaust denial I see here is a meme right? Nobody is actually stupid enough to deny the holocaust happened?

>>130433598
or did it like the soviets mass starvation it would be alot more effective then trasporting them wasting the resources like fuel witch was in short supply in natsoc germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333

>>130431299
and this proves what? that they moved to Israel? we all know that

>>130433180

no, here is the "chain of events" you shallow minded smartass:

>Germans lose most of the best of an entire generation fighting in ww1
>germans lose ww1 even though the war did not even penetrate into germany
>the germans lost war because of socialist uprising led by jews and encouraged by the press
>germany surrenders because of the socialist uprising, which turned the country agaisnt itself
>jews all live in ghettos OF THEIR OWN CHOICE
>jews refuse to integrate into GERMAN society, despite no one minding them doing so.
>jews lead international finance. the jewish communities profit and buy up property and wealth as the germans are forced to pay literally impossible reparations AT INTEREST! and are then forced to use foreign currency as their money
>Germans have to give up their own country, and french troops march into germany after the peace treaty was signed. somethign they never managed to do during the war
>french soldiers mistreat germans
>germans live in poverty.
>Jews now are instigating communism
>meanwhile millions have died in russia at hands of jewish chekas and commissars
>smart germans see the truth
>Gottfried feder speaks on interest free money, which will set germany free (work will set you free)
>hitler joins NSDAP
>Germany boots the jews out of german life and takes back their own home. as any real man understands is the right thing to do!

> >>130433180
>you are a faggot

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You tell me you fucking kike

>>130433625
"semi "justifiable""

you're an idiot.

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>>130415555
(((yes)))

>>130433923
yes, this is a way of letting people know who is enjoying public life and benefits, even though they are a part of the community that doesn't really consider itself so.

so they wear the yellow star so people know how deep evil sinks. how people you think you can trust, are really just meddling and subverting your way of life for their own gains.

The holocaust is portrayed as infinite evil but the simple fact that you have a population of a certain group united in a war against you within your society presents a practical problem.
Not completely disimilar to problems we have in the west with elements who have vowed to destroy us

>>130433598

Now, he's making a retarded argument because he doesn't realize that most of the Jews killed in WW2 didn't live in Germany. Of course, what else could one expect from an American Holocaust denier?

>if you wanted to get rid of them like in the real genocides that we compare them with then they would do like the people who actually committed genocide and kill them on the spot.

They did kill a lot of people on the spot (Einsatzgruppen). But it's easier to carry out and hide mass-murder of people in Ukraine than in, say, France.

Also, they've actually spent less resources rounding up the Jews in places like France because the rounding up was actually done by local authorities.

>>130415555
This Jewish professor is stupid enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYSGCpGMhZc

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ofc it happened ofc ofc

>>130434240
>be in war.
>oposing faction wont surrender.
are you giong to waste the lives of youre soldiers trying to clear out the cities and risking a stalingrad 2.0
or firebomb the shit out of them?

compare it to a war in the middle east and apply the same thing witch one would you choose?.

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>>130415555
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alyk2g10AZk

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>>130415555
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhX_RQQYlbw

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>Believing in muh 6 gorillion

>>130434068

>>the germans lost war because of socialist uprising led by jews and encouraged by the press

and that's where you are wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth

Also the Revolution of 1918 wasnt started by Jews, but by a German sailor mutiny called the Kiel mutiny
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiel_mutiny

>he cites wikipedia

better than you citing nothing or, let me guess, having gained your alternate facts via youtube videos.

>jews refuse to integrate into GERMAN society, despite no one minding them doing so.

>all the german sounding jewish names

derp. Also Der Ewige Jude has an extensive section dealing with how Jews try to blend in but must be stopped at all costs.

>>130415555
Why not? Jews deny the German holocaust. "Was Britain's WWI Blockade The First Atrocity Of The 20th Century?" http://io9.gizmodo.com/was-britains-wwi-blockade-the-first-atrocity-of-the-20t-1665227466

>>130434512

you think firebombing innocent women and children is okay. and why? so the bankers can get more money and so that everyone in the world can pay interest on printing money.

gotchya.

you're an idiot.

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>>130415555

The only good thing jews ever invented was the holocaust.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlyL2r2j7VQ

>>130434390
The Hexagram is a primarily Zionist symbol, it was not commonly shorthand for Jewish

For example, Ellis Island
Jewish Immigrants wouldn't write a cross X they didn't choose to use a hexagram though did they

>>130415555
Jews deny jewish control of American media, the banking system, their attempted takeover of the judicial system, their loyalty to Israel....denial is just the rules. There is little objective evidence of a jewish holocaust. Case closed.

>>130434717
you're an idiot

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>>130422472
Sup, JIDF Ösi. Busy day, innit?

>>130435092

ad hominem as rebuttal is admitting defeat.

>>130434717
>and that's where you are wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319
the los was a surprise to most germans as it came suddenly and unexpectedly.
the kicked the keiser from his trone and it established the weimar republic witch in turn was fucked because the treaty of versiales and the reprations the had to pay.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

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>>130415555
Oh shit the fucking digits

>OP that feels when you have anFaggot flag cause your in isreal. Nice try faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Q_qwPAVvc

>>130435212

jidf hq in tel aviv is literally on fire right now, thanks to this thread.

>>130415555
Jewish and liberal media censor that the burning building in London was full of muslims. Don't want to give people ideas?

>>130435333

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>>130434935
For some reason Finnish posting is best posting. You are even better than Straya.

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>>130435373
Why would you host JIDF hq in Tel Aviv? Are you all gay or something?

>>130431942
Gangbang

>>130415555
Jews deny that christians are crucified in the middle east, including children, either deny it or laugh about it.

>>130420110
Zyklon-b was very cheap to make

>>130415555
I can't believe anyone is dumb enough to believe it happened.

>>130434717
check out leaders of socialist movement a lot of them have connection to jewish people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319

>>130415555
What holocaust?

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>>130435669
The churches of Germany do it to. If you are looking for apology of Islam and down playing of persecution of Christians by moderate beheaders, look no further than the churches.

>>130426960
Exactly. Fucking holocaust deniers wasting everyone's time and ridiculing us in the process.

>>130415847
>When the first post should end the thread but 200 other people actually post.
This board is such shit holy crap guys.

>>130415555
Moot point. Once my inexorable rise to power is complete no one will even remember the 1st Holocaust. The annhilation of Jews, niggers, sandniggers, rice niggers and burrito niggers under my aegis will be absolute. Its scope alone will cause even my most ardent supporters to take pause.

>>130111111
>>130222222
>>130333333

Jews are master deceivers. They argue that the US should have prioritized jewish immigration out of germany. Then the argue the opposite, that the us should not prioritize christian immigration out of the mid east. Which ever position is best for the jews. God's chosen.

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>>130436031
Two completely wasted. Sad!

>>130431942
The Holocaust: Because why would you kill people for free or just make money of them working in camps, when you can spend tons of money on building huge gas camps & killing them with expensive poison gas

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>>130422472
>i.imgur.com/ZRPWuOY
your link is just an autist claiming the book is wrong but he posts no sources to back up his claim

i need something solid to believe you, a mouthpiece is just a mouthpiece whomever it may be.

this shit makes me want to die

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>>130430754
wiki isnt a fucking source how ever if you go to the pages references and check them out then post them it works

this shit is cancer, sometimes the references on wiki lead to no where

>>130436220

Don't just love it when deniers literally pull arguments straight out of their asses? Do you know the price of Zyklon B? How many Deutsche Marks per one dead? No, you don't. You're just making shit up expecting that nobody will call you on it. This is why people call it denial.

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>>130431299
Their population in Sweden has more then doubled.
My almonds are going into activation mode.

>>130437209
You can't just fill a room with gas, kill everyone and then dump them out and do it over and over again. There would be so many consequences to even the Germans health.

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>>130415555

>>130437209
Is it kinda expensive to build air tight gas chambers though, or nah?

But yeah i'm sure you can get as much poison gas as you want for free. Because why the fuck would you do it for free, that's retarded.

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>>130435604

>he thinks chimney flues must be located above surface level

>>130437209
And it was also important to shave their heads before they gas them back then, because you wouldn't want the people you were gonna genocide to have lice before they die because then you genocide lice too and that's even worse.

>>130437439

And this is another reason why people call it denial. Not only that you're not addressing the actual point, you're also obviously not familiar with the operation of the gas chambers.

>>130437479

>Is it kinda expensive to build air tight gas chambers though, or nah?

Not really, I mean, they've built shitload of gas-tight air raid shelters, a gas chamber can't be all that much of a problem.

>But yeah i'm sure you can get as much poison gas as you want for free

Do you admit that you have no numbers and that you're making shit up?

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They wanted to kill jews in the same way blacks in African want to kill whitey. When a population has a std dev IQ higher then yours they occupy higher positions of power and everything they do looks like evil magic.

>>130437439

>He thinks hydrogen cyanide doesn't rapidly lose its toxicity when exposed to the open air and would instead kill everyone around in a solid radius

>>130437479

>he thinks homicidal gas chambers need to be air tight, but he has no problem accepting the non-airtight delousing chambers

>>130438005
>Do you admit that you have no numbers and that you're making shit up?

Did I say a specific number or something? Did I imply I knew exactly how all that shit would cost? I'm just saying why do it for free when you can spend millions of dollars on it.

>>130437466
Check,keK

>>130437209

Deniers implies it happened. You're the real deniers because you're denying it didn't happen.

>>130438041
Hmmm That must make you guys, like., the master race or something.

the Jews a smarter meme , dank

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>fighting a war on 2 fronts
>lack of money
>spending grandiose amounts of it shipping jews all across the reaches of your empire JUST TO KILL THEM

Pistol to head would have been more effective and way cheaper, especially considering Germany's efficiency

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>>130415555
>Be me
>teach my nephew to say "heil hitler" everytime i shout "SIEG"
>in a restaurant with family
>""""thinking""""what would happen if i whisper "sieg" to my nephew,would he be ashamed?
>whisper SIEG at him
>he screams "HEIL HITLER" and does the hand gesture
>everybody looks at us
>parents look at me angry and disappointed
>"me thinking something non autistic to say"
>- "is not that he has done something bad tho"
>faaaaaaaakkkk

>>130438041
Alright. Try it again, but in English this time.

>>130438263

They point is that you have no idea whatsoever. For example, was killing someone with a bullet cheaper or more expensive than gas? You don't know. You have no idea. You're just making shit up.

>>130416871
How do you explain the confessions made during the Nuremberg trails then?