Tell us your secret Krauts! How do we American make goods people

>>130291773
cheat on emissions

Bump

I'm trying to get into exporting, to help reduce the trade deficit.

Is everything in Germany Made in China too, or are they made in Europe?

>>130291773
I have tremendous respect for the germans
They're disciplined, hard-working, polite and respectful, things the french have a disdain for
That's really the reason they're so good at making shit. They don't glorify social vampires, marketing tricks or useless complaints

>>130292062
But german engineering is just a marketing gimmick.

>>130291773
you do realize american industrial output is still the highest in the entire world? everybody buys our shit.

>>130292271
Which is true, yet we are still better than most. Pathetic isn't it :)

>>130292271
The thing that's extraordinary about it isn't necessarily the product itself, but rather that they still have a massive constellation of small independant producers that manage to stay afloat and not get swallowed by mega corps
And they're top notch quality as well anyway

I have tremendous disrespect for anyone who doesn't understand that bilateral trade deficit is a metric with no meaning whatsoever.
But I would go further and suggest that anyone who worries about trade deficit at all has such a moronic idea of economics that their opinion is on par with flat earthers and the religious.

>>130292305
But Germany exports much more per capita, and China exports much more total. So we are at this weird middle ground where exports are pretty good, but not great.

>>130292062
I agree that the U.S. relies on a lot of marketing tricks and overhyped products

>>130292800
In the U.S. corporations have eaten small manufacturers alive, so theres little pride in our goods because your "mega corp" doesn't really care about you.

>>130293588

If the trade values the item, then how can the difference in value of different traded items be compared?
Trade deficit doesn't complete the circle. It is a shell game for Nationalists.

Take the iPhone. It is valued in the trade from China to the US at $250 per unit. That is what we pay. But of the $250, only $5 goes to China. they had to buy parts from all sorts of Nations including the US.

Then to take that metric and apply it to the millions of items all valued in their own market and come up with a Trade Deficit is just ridiculous.

There is no such thing as a bilateral trade deficit. That is like complaining that you have a trade deficit with your local grocery story simply because they don't buy anything from you.

>>130292043
The German labor market is the most expensive one in the world. It would be much cheaper for most companies like VW to build their factories in eastern Europe or China or somewhere else. It is just our trade schools also produce the most skilled workers and all the mid sized family companies feel responsible to provide jobs to the local population.
It is kind of a deal between the companies and the workers. The workers have to be highly skilled so the companies can stay comparative.

Mostly we don't even build cars, but HighTech Machines, other companies, mostly in China, build their stuff with. And these HighTech machines are build by mid sized companies who export into the entire world and have essentially no competition. The Chinese can't do it and other western countries don't do it.

I think the main problem of the US and maybe also Britain is, they make to much money in trade. They build their global trade network supported by their military and the upper class makes billions. But the lower working class can't participate in a trade economy. Germany on the other hand remained a manufacturing economy. The workers have to get highly skilled, but they earn a good salary.

>>130294208

You are starting to get it.
If the purpose of Capitalism is Independence through Trade then trade is defined as one Supply being traded for another Supply or Supply/Supply. The only value is to those who trade.

When you add a Proxy to that trade in the form of currency or Capital it now becomes Supply/Proxy/Supply.

Here is the magic trick of the rigged system.

1. There is no such thing as a universal value in a trade that is Supply/Supply. The intervention of Proxy puts a "Price" on an item.
2. This is the important one. The introduction of Proxy allows the system to Diverge. That means with Supply/Supply there is a conservation of matter in what is traded, but with Supply/Proxy/Supply the insistence on profit, return on investment, rent, or other ways of increasing the Proxy, you now have more Proxy than items it represents.

This "Sources" the Proxy, and "Sinks" the Trade.

That means those who control the Proxy bleed off the value of the trade from those who make the products every time they complete the other half of the trade and cash in their Proxy for product.

Does grain grow in the silo? Does meat grow new animals in the refrigerator?

Then why do you expect the Proxy to these things, the Capital, to grow?

That is why Capitalism doesn't work. It functions because of corruption, exploitation, and abundance, but those things are no longer available.

the US and deutschland were good friends until like a month ago what the fuck are you on about

>>130294208
Thanks for your input. I think the problem is, like you said, German companies feel obligated to provide, and workers rely on trust that companies will value their skills. The job market is the U.S. is not like that at all. Its huge employers who claim to provide the most jobs, but they are low paying retail jobs

>>130294166
You have fair reasons, but trade deficit is used by almost everyone in the world as a good indicator of economic growth

>>130295251

And chicken bones are used to predict the future in Jamaica.
Look. Economist are conmen. Their job is to make sure the status quo has an excuse for its poor ability to provide a system that serves anyone outside of the elites.

History has shown us over and over that Capitalism fails. It needs to be replaced with a democratic market socialism that restricts companies from using governments to enforce their monopolies and exploitation through patents and currency control.
I have clearly shown that Trade Deficit is a nonsense metric, and to their credit, most economists would agree. But the underlying divergence in Capital always moves the money to the top.

Why do you thing the game of Monopoly is made the way it is? In Game theory it is called a Non-Martingale game which means the chance of winning increases with every move you win. How can there be winners and losers if the purpose is Interdependence through Trade?
The game can work if it is set up to be Win Win.
That means eliminating private control of currency and putting all capital in a Public Bank run by democratic vote.
Shit! If the system has to diverge to work, then let the profit from the divergence fund the Public Good. That means no taxes!

>>130291773
Asians good like Korea Japan are good too.
I have an LG ultrawide monitor, a samsung phone and it's top notch.

>>130292958
Found the Jew