Give me one (1) good reason why you aren't a communist >muh

>>130256877
>someone was paid to make this post
Hey shillbro, where can I apply online to shareblue? I need some extra income to help me build a pc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS90bm0ttFM

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>>130256877
>checks post
>sees its by a raging retarded faggot
>checks flag

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let me just save everyone's time
>OP: that wasn't real communist
>anons: we don't give a shit what it was, it sucked ass and we don't want it because it fucking sucked for everyone, including whatever fantasy Communist Party position you think you'd have if you were actually able to have this happen

youre all welcome

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>>130257191
not argument try again
>>130257162
thank you comrade

>>130256877
>Give me one (1) good reason why you aren't a communist

Because I understand the basic laws of economics.

>>130257275
>he's serious
Jesus christ a leaf, new to shitposting? You're supposed to make only 1 post then scurry away like the rat you are

>>130256877
>says that every statist communist society wasn't real communism and sucks the state's cock in the same sentence
good one, day of the rake when?

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>>130256877
I'm White. You're asking me to play the role of that Jewish Nazi group in Weimar Germany that thought things would end great for them if they were just forcibly assimilated into a supremacist German Culture.

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>>130257275
>when your only argument is not an argument

>>130256877
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/communism.html

>>130256877
>it wasnt real communism
Of course not. It never is and never will be.
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>>130256877

One of the funny ones in that cartoon is "free market".

It shows how uncritically propaganda in the West is swallowed. First of all, the word free shouts out the propaganda of it. What is the opposite of a free market, an unfree market?

Secondly - in the USSR, you work at an office, you are paid rubles, you go to the market, you buy radishes, you go home and eat the radishes.

In the USA, you work at an office, you are paid dollars, you go to the market, you buy radishes, you go home and eat the radishes.

How exactly are the markets different? The answer is inevitably that the markets are not different, something else is. So then why do the western propagandists talk about the market? And why do they add propaganda words like free to it?

I mean they have the bad cop Fox News and Republicans and conservatives foam at the mouth, then the supposed good cop of Hillary and Democrats and "reasonable" corporate media and NPR shovel the same bullshit to liberals.

I apologize for saying corporate media, the New York Times said phrases like that caused Scalise to be shot (not joking).

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>>130256877
Only weak beta males are into socialism.

>>130257884
thats not how it works.
>in the USSR, you work at an office, you are paid rubles, you go to the market, you buy radishes, you go home and eat the radishes
>In the USA, you work at an office, you are paid dollars, you go to the market, you buy radishes, you go home and eat the radishes.

Feel free to add that in the USA (or Canada, UK, France, Faggotville etc.) you can purchase numerous other vegetables to consume along with other stuff etc.

In USSR you're stuck with radishes only

>>130257546
>all the different races were kept in their own communities while still contributing to the greater good of the state
>jews actually had it worse in the post ww2 ussr than in the west and that's why they conspired to destroy the ussr
If we were a communist society we would be in space already but since you fucks are too dumb to comprehend how this works we're going to die by wasting all our money to give (((soros))) a 5th luxury yatch.
Whites ruled the ussr
>>130257764
>hypocritical jew that was on welfare while advocating against it

Still haven't seen any real arguments I haven't adressed in the OP
I guess /pol/ just can't argue with facts and would rather suck jewish capitalists dicks

>>130256877
>central bank

>>130258620
>thinking that an ad hom against ayn is a valid way to dismiss her
Saying that others aren't making arguments doesn't make it true.

>>130256877
>it wasnt real communism but they deserved it for opposing the state anyways

This is enough of a reason for me.

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>>130256877
A FUCKING LEAF

>>130256877

It doesn't work.

>>130258107
All species of collectivist are beta, anon

>>130256877
because it's against human nature to be communist

you honestly think communism can work when humans don't want to redistribute their stuff. they want power, and communism (as it is on paper) doesn't conform to this.

>op espouses the virtues of "true" communism
>says "they" deserved it for opposing the state anyway
So...statism isn't communism..but you'd best not go against the allmighty state.
sounds statist to me

>>130256877
I want to own land

>>130256877

I grew up dirt poor in a tiny village in northern canada. my best friend was my next door neighbor, he wore the same sweat pants every day to school for 2 years. it was the only pair of pants he owned. this was not abnormal where i am from.

i am now an executive for one of canada's top 100 employers, spending my days making mountains out of mole hills to avoid a leadcon chaired by some bobblehead explaining that six sigma is a solid framework since common sense fits within it.

your egalitarian view is false. you could never do my job. you lack the ambition, acumen and intelligence.

i am more successful than you because I AM better than you.

Communists are the world's losers. Winners despise it. It's an attack on meritocracy.

Only bitter losers want to flip the chessboard.

>>130256877
not all people are equal

>>130256877
sage

>>130257271
/thread.
was just about to type this.

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>>130256877
>not real Communism

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>>130256877
>it wasnt real communism
Yes,it was. I'm so sick of niggers like you. Quit being a goddamn cuck!!! 50+ million WHITE CHRISTIANS were killed by these commie kikes!! JEws created communism!! WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!

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>>130260037
jews are obsessed with the most effective means of control, which in this current era is money. if they can replace money with something even MORE effective like food, housing, or anything else that is required to live, they will. money is just the most effective means in our current age.

>>130256877
why is molyneux standing with santa

>>130257884
The difference is fundamental.

Price is a signal. It pervades our economic system, and tells us where to direct resources to yield the greatest benefit.

The USSR killed this excellent communication system, instead setting prices centrally. Prices no longer conveyed any useful information about the system: what to produce and how much.

What is more, the USSR then required a special means to allocate limited goods. One thousand residents can all afford a motorcycle, but there are only ten available. The price is set, and a willingness to pay more will not get you a motorcycle. So they required an extra social or political system (i.e., someone dictating who gets what) just to make their economic system work.

Why would I want the same share as everyone else? I want more than them.

Because I don't want to be one.

>>130256877
>it wasnt real communism
Stopped reading there.

>>130256877
I only care about myself

its fucking gay, dude

>>130260037
this is bait its fucking stupid even and idiot with 5 minutes of reasearch can see the link between the jews and communism

>>130260183
yes anon that's why the ussr was deeply antisemitic and the (((USA))) pressured them into giving them more rights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union#Under_Brezhnev
>>130260390
>excellent system
>made a great empire into a backwards agrarian nation
>impossible anti human nature system
>made a backwards agrarian nation into a great empire
Somehow your feels aren't support by facts sweetie

>>130256877
True communism needs someone to be a leader. Or a group of people. All that power would corrupt those people and then the people's would suffer. Plus once everywhere was communist, supposedly the government is supposed to just be phased out. Do you believe that people would be able to relinquish power if they controlled the world

>>130256877
Communism always fails due to theory failure, not implementation failure.

Communist basic understanding of human nature and economics is wrong.

>>130256877
>it wasnt real communism
I feel like I've heard this at least dozens of times before....
But hey, if you wanna make Canada be communist, go for it. Just leaf us Americans alone.

>>130256877
Robots are not advanced enough yet.

If I were a communist I'd kill myself. Thank god I'm not, instead I can invest in land, family, and memes.

>>130260834
I said that price is the signal basis for OUR [Western] system. Price is an excellent means of communication, and the USSR chose to halt that means. Nobody said the Soviet system was excellent.

>>130260834
>ussr was deeply antisemitic
Only during Stalin. Gotta give to him, he out Jewed the Jews and seized power from Trotsky.

I agree in socializing shared things (roads, healthcare). I think education should be free. But I also like owning my own stuff, and I'm not willing to let another human determine what I "need".

>>130256877
>it wasnt real communism but they deserved it for opposing the state anyways
>but they deserved it for opposing the state anyways
And this is the real problem with Communism. It strips people of their individuality and makes them mere cogs in a machine. It devalues human life to the point where it's perfectly acceptable in the mind of a Communist to simply eradicate millions of innocent men, women, and children because they didn't like how things were going.
It is an immoral ideology for immoral people.

>>130256877
>Give me one (1) good reason why you aren't a communist

I like owning things, like food.

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1st world proletarians are the ones who should start the global revolution proces. but most of them are materialistic idiots, who are okay whit their shitty system because they can afford a big tv.

>>130256877
I remember my first beer.

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>>130256877

>>130256877
I like how they change the comic from Molyneux saying "not an argument" because it doesn't refute what he's saying; to Lenin saying "undialectical" because he has no argument other than asserting that Marx is correct without evidence

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>>130256877

Wow, thanks OP! I'd never thought of it that way!

democratic socialist, a la scandinavia. the only logical choice for a sane government. more expansive state control of certain resources, more expansive state benefits, but right to private property respected whenever possible, and fucking rule of fucking law, unlike in chinkfuckistan and alcoholorussavia.

>>130256877
actually lived during communism and it fucking sucked you dumb leaf

>>130256877
Communist regimes have killed over 100 million people throughout history, every major communist country has failed and will fail. "Real communism", or any other political idealism that requires extensive compensation is excessively prone to being manipulated by the governor or just falling entirely.

>>130262308
100s of millions died during the industrial revolution and colonialism as well to achieve the progress they did.
Communism did the same thing but faster and with less deaths.

>>130256877
A FUCKING LEAF

>>130262716
>communists want to make America look bad so desperately that they now unironically believe neo-nazi propaganda about "German concentration camps"
holy fuck

>hundreds of millions died as a result of the industrial revolution
No, they didn't, a couple million at most, and it actually added up to something rather than having 100 million people starve for no reason and add up to faggots like you sippin your starbucks coffee and calling yourselves the proletariat.
>colonialism
Africans aren't people

>>130262716
This isn't because of capitalism, these are deaths that happened in or were caused by nations that happened to be capitalist.

>>130256877
>Truth about Socialism
Is it a list of people sent to Gulag, or the people who starved to death?

>>130256877
>Give me one (1) good reason why you aren't a communist
A classless state is an oxymoron, and true equality is impossible.

>>130256877
>Give me one (1) good reason why you aren't a communist

I don't give a fuck about anyone other than myself

>>130256877

> it wasnt real communism

Stopped reading here.

Now get in the chopper, you fucking leaf.

>>130256877
>wasn't real communism
>wasn't real communism
>wasn't real communism
Then the US isn't real capitalism
Argument completely dismantled when you pull bullshit like that.

>>130263239
uh but actually not-real-capitalism is real capitalism just read Das Kaptial sweetie honeybear cuddlemuffin

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>>130263385
good god that meme didn't age well lul

>>130256877
>the ussr was able to rise from a poor agrarian nation with no industry to a superpower only 2nd in power to the us in less than 50 years (the capitalist countries had centuries)
And Nazi Germany went from being a poverty-ridden tributary state to the most powerful nation in 4 years.

>(the capitalist countries had centuries)
10/10 bait

>>130263536
I also didn't put a lot of effort into it, but yeah

the communist argument is that "not-real-capitalism" ie. imperialism or corporatism is supposed to happen, but not-real-communism ie. a degenerate worker's state isn't supposed to happen and is due to corruption by the bourgeoise

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>>130262489
>He actually believes this
Those 100 million died of starvation, sickness, isolation, povety, and tyranny. Communists like yourself will attempt to justify the needless deaths of your people.

>>130263385
>marx knowing what the fuck he was talking about

his contemporaries considered him an idiot, which he was and anyone who takes his writing seriously is an idiot

>>130256877
>why you aren't a communist
Because i lived in country where the goverment was

>>130262489
and if you gave communists the same amount of time they'd kill way more people.

the ussr didn't even last a century and that was your "success" story

ok anyways any non communists go back to your retarded ancap containment thread >>130246515

>>130256877
Communism doesn't work.

>>130256877
>it wasnt real communism but they deserved it for opposing the state anyways
that's why you're an inhumane piece of shit
>capitalism directly promotes degeneracy and consumerism while the USSR (the closest we got to communism but wasn't real communism) promoted family values and nationalism
thats why im fascist you stupid fuck

>>130256877
>OP gets communist wish
> winds up having to be a dishwasher for the rest of his life cause do your part faggot.

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>>130256877
>it wasnt real communism but they deserved it for opposing the state anyways
What if the state likes starving commies to death?

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>>130256877
>muh starvation
That's a great reason, in fact, it's why it nearly killed itself as an ideology.
>the ussr was able to rise from a poor agrarian nation with no industry to a superpower only 2nd in power to the us in less than 50 years (the capitalist countries had centuries)
It was only able to do that by murdering 60mil people which resulted in the starvation of agrarian community, which is an epic failure of suicidal proportions
>muh borders
Tell me how tolerant communists were to illegal immigrants, because it was still illegal in the Soviet Union.

>>130256877
kys, shill

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>>130256877
It's a Jewish pyramid scheme.

I did sales, and we would use the same mind fuck techniques that you hear in college from professors pushing Marxism.
SAME EXACT tactics

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>>130256877
>the ussr was able to rise from a poor agrarian nation with no industry to a superpower only 2nd in power to the us in less than 50 years (the capitalist countries had centuries)
>what is Russian Empire

>>130266394
a poor primarily agrarian nation decades behind in industry and literacy

Cause comloes here bully children into becoming homosexual

>>130256877
>it wasnt real communism but they deserved it for opposing the state anyways
This is why we hate commies.
Also, people bring shot for picking up small portions of grain that fell in the mud.

>>130266598
Lmao bro most european countries were primarily agrarian until the 50's

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>>130266598
5th richest country in the world at the time

>>130256877
This is a bait thread don't waste your time.

Saged.

Marx and Engels were bourgeoisie faggots trying to rule over the proletariat. Engels was a fox hunting elitist and Marx was the son of a lawyer and married the daughter of a politician.
They are the text book definition of frauds.

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cronus wields the sickle
it is a false dichotomy

>>130267246
That one is pretty good.

>>130256877
>it wasn't real communism
literally the same argument that's already been disproved
nothing is "real communism" in the eyes of a commie because it always ends in political genocide and famine instead of eternal world peace like they think

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>>130256877
>sees flag
Fuck off leaf.

>>130256877
1. read the pic. out of 300 Million USSR citizens 60 Million died. 1/5th of the Population deserved starvation ? top kek
2. Degeneracy. Day care and breaking up the Family is priority number one for communists, to get the children in line as fast as possible
every socialist politic starts with taking the children away from the parents
2. They too had their borders. Ever heard of the fucking IRON CURTAIN ? A border where you got shot by automated guns when you crossed it, while the Capitalist countries didnt have that border guard, USSR had to shoot People crossing the border or else there wouldnt have been any communist citizens left
4. Russia also had centuries, Industrialization started with Catherine the great and Peter 1.st
If you look at East Germany and the Czech and Polish they too were industrial countries on par with Germany. It took 60 years of soviet occupation to make them dirt poor

all your Points are complete bullshit

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>>130256877

>>130267386
because communists want the result, and ignore the fact that the proscribed methods to reach that result always fail, because the methods aren't communism, only the result is

>>130256877
I'm happy I no longer post as a leaf because I immigrated to USA...

>>130256877
>my property!
kek

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Read Milton Friedman's work, then come back.

>>130256877
>Muh starvation
Are you that retarded to support a system in witch starvation and lack of basic needs is the norm?
>the deserve it For opposing the state.
So much for muh freedom heh? you just replaced the burgiose with the authoritarian state..

>>130256877
>USSR (the closest we got to communism but wasn't real communism) promoted family values and nationalism
you know shit about history

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>>130256877

>>130256877
Simple. I find it immoral and imposible.

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>>130256877
Cuba.

Venesuela.

The Former Soviet Union (still recovering).

Western countries that implement socialist policies lose power and society disintegrates, i mean for crying out loud have you seen the threads about Sweden or the UK?

>>130256877
>it wasnt real communism

If all the failed states that claim to have been communist couldn't practice real communism, doesn't that mean real communism is too difficult to implement in reality?

>>130262848
You can literally make the same argument for communism

>>130256877
A FUCKING LEAF

>>130256877
>it wasn't a real communism meme
By the way, USSR killed 40-50 millions of its own citizens (can't remember exact numbers). Is this your perfect society?

>>130269458
about concentration camps?
American "concentration camps" barely existed, and the only source for any significant amount of people dying in them was a literal nazi propagandist asserting it with no source other than his own ass. Meanwhile the Soviet Union imprisoned not only German soldiers and civilians in the GULAG system, but they even sent their own former POWs there, because getting captured by the enemy meant that they hadn't fought hard enough, and were therefore guilty of treason under the Soviet Union's article 58

>>130257409
You dont. Otherwise you would make this post, claiming you understand it.