I'd like to hear real opinions and critiques of Marxist

>>130248761
it is retarded, and you are retarded too

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>>130248761
>I'd like to hear real opinions and critiques
>Purges would only occur when individuals

Any system that requires the "purging" of its citizens is already evil and doomed to failure.

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>>130248761

get a job kid

>>130249100
I have one thanks though, I work full time and I'm in college as well.

>>130248761
The problem is that you're assuming the "democracy" wouldn't be pushing their own selfish agendas.

The only way to create an idealic society like this would be to "weed out" disruptive individuals over a very long period of time, possibly a century, by either killing them off, or instituting a eugenics program aimed at "breeding" desirable traits for the system that's being created.

Once this is accomplished the system could theoretically run itself for a very long time, so long as the subsequent generations are raised with strict values adhering to it. The problem is that humanity is too diverse for a system to work perfectly. There's too many idiots that think they're smart, and too many intellects that think the idiots are on the same level they are.

Humans are largely social and empathetic, even when they're cruel and merciless they do it for their peers. This is why these systems will never work. Mankind only bands together when it has a common governor with no face, such as God or money. Something they can work for and believe in.

In short, Marxist Leninism isn't strictly awful for what it wants to do, it's strictly awful because the way to ensure it is impossible.

I don't think there's anything more selfish than supporting commy shit.

>>130248761
Forcibly destroying cultures and traditions to further your own agenda is evil and selfish.

If you can't persuade people to change their ways with logic and reason, while allowing them to hold onto mementos of their history, then your ideology is clearly too weak to bring humanity into the future.

>Central bank
>low wages

REMEMBER GOY
MARXISM ALWAYS WORK DUDE

>>130249390
Thank you for the honest criticism, and I think those concerns are very reasonable. If it could be established in a small state initially that way the central government was more effiently able to maintain control. Also in a small state the likely hood of large groups of disgruntled citizens forming would drop drastically, and I'm completely for eugenics. Humanity is the species that actively prevents natural selection by protecting its members who could not survive naturally from dying.

It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.
Alexander Hamilton, speech in New York, urging ratification of the U.S. Constitution (21 June 1788)

>>130250164
Pure democracies give too much power to the popular opinion, this allows self destructive choices to be made

>>130250164
Central democracies are not pure democracies, political decisions are centralized. They're made by individuals who are selected on the premise of them being the best suited to make them

one more

Democracy is necessarily despotism, as it establishes an executive power contrary to the general will; all being able to decide against one whose opinion may differ, the will of all is therefore not that of all: which is contradictory and opposite to liberty.
Immanuel Kant, Perpetual Peace, II, (1795)


What makes the constitution great is that it gives power to the individual. The majority can't simply usurp your individual liberties. And if they do, you can have your fucking gun and they gotta come and pry it from your cold, dead hands.

>>130248761
My opinion is its an outdated, stale political philosophy that insists upon a reality that never existed for conditions in the 19th century.

That it simply doesn't work is manifestly obvious wherever one looks.

Its interesting to see that, in the present Venezuelan case, the decay of a socialist regime is accelerated in the post-industrial era. In the past they could last longer before their self-implosions.

Nothing I can say to you that you haven't already heard otherwise. If nothing has turned you away from it then there's little point in asking anybody their opinions, is there? Your mind is already foreclosed to alternatives.

>>130248761
No cliff notes for you, r/anarchy. Lurk more, give the red pill time to kick in

>>130250879
My mind isn't closed to other schools of thought I just need a compelling reason to accept them.

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>>130248761
>Be a drunk Jew
>create an ideology based on workers rights
>never work a job in your life
really makes you think....

>>130249390
>The only way to create an idealic society like this would be to "weed out" disruptive individuals over a very long period of time, possibly a century, by either killing them off, or instituting a eugenics program aimed at "breeding" desirable traits for the system that's being created.
I think this goes for all ideologies desu. It's why the "homo Sovieticus" concept existed, and why Molyneux is so focused on good parenting being a prerequisite for ancapistan

One thing I'm honestly confused about is why commies don't start their own societies voluntarily like kibbutzim, other isolated Leftists or colonists or even a lot of white supremacists. Nothing is stopping you from moving to a small town and starting a voluntary collective with other likeminded people. Why is it always your plan to hijack successful societies' institutions and force everyone into your system? Surely such a promising ideaology will have already numerous successful examples within the USA itself?

>>130252068
you can't seize the means of production in a town that's economy is 6 family farms and a general store

>>130252068
Because state level and federal government will get involved, also then you still exist under the capitalist system maybe not directly but no progress was truly made.

>>130248761
>I'd like to hear real opinions and critiques of Marxist Leninism
Do you read anything other than Marxist books?
Are all non marxist tomes "spooks"?

Why do you ignore determinism?
Why do you ignore the truth about our reality... that there is a malevolent factor to it?
Why do you purposely reject religion specifically to diminish your followers "threat perception" parts of the brain?
Why was there a hierarchy in communism in the end?

>>130251078
Like I said.

Karl Marx was a Jewish capitalist.He made his money on the stock market, and he bragged about it.Communism is for idiots, not Karl Marx and his buddies. Think about that

>>130250879
>My opinion is its an outdated, stale political philosophy that insists upon a reality that never existed for conditions in the 19th century.
This.

Look at China.
It's hardly "communist" nowadays for good reason. In fact, now the west is fighting to compete with them.
Technocratic governments are the future.

>>130248761

>In a truly Marxist Leninist state
>truly
No true Scotsman inbound.