Give me one (1) good reason why you aren't an ancap >muh

>>130246515
even better; employ the poor people as police/military and provide them with a scapegoat for their suffering: the J

>>130246515
Nah, I like NatSoc better. I'd rather live in a NatSoc white society than an AnCap mixed soceity.

>>130246515
i agree with all this but i don't think i am AC.

>>130246865
Society naturally segregates.

So you want to be a Ferengi?

>>130246515
Because I don't support men fucking each other in the ass and open borders.

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youre basically shitting on your own country, europeans used to find other countries to colonize if they wanted to live in an ancap paradise, that way they always had a good backup plan if things when south and a strong starting base to build from. Now people want to turn their own country 3rd world just to fulfill their own selfish desires.

>>130246515
Please don't make poor quality threads with poor arguments for a political philosophy I'm amicable to.
You're the reason people have a mental wall when it comes to anarchism.

poor people of my race > rich international jewish bankers

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Because capitalism and communism are both cancer.

>>130247322
countries and governments are only there to steal your money and resources, why do you defend them?
>>130247419
if your people are poor then they should die so your race becomes stronger

>>130246515
Ancap is a meme position, nothing different from an ordinary anarchist outside of feeling the need to be a special snowflake.

>>130246515
I'm an AnCap because I will violate the fuck out of rich people's NAP, destroy them and their families, and take their shit.

>>130247644
This

Because there is no such thing as anarchy therefore anyone claiming to be an anarchist is obviously an idiot.

>>130246515
>private police forces would be much more efficient and actually protect your interests because you pay them
Good thing it's in my interest to have you disappear eh?

>>130246515
I'm pretty much totally deaf in both ears. They were blocked off at birth. But thanks to government welfare, I have a hearing aid (which would cost roughly ten grand otherwise) which allows me to hear almost perfectly, and given me the ability to speak completely coherently. This has enabled me to work, and be well-educated. I'm about halfway through an economics degree and am certain I will contribute to the economy when I start a proper career.

So in an ancap society, would I be essentially a bumbling moron who can't speak coherently, since my parents probably couldn't afford the repairs and maintenance for the hearing aids? I was given one at birth because it was free. If I was only given one when my parents could afford it, I'd probably have been about 15 and my speech and capability would probably still be extremely limited, and my level of education would be extremely low. I'd probably be more of a burden than the boon I could otherwise be.

I agree with ancap principles most of the time but the suggestions for disability welfare seem pretty weak to me, at least in practice.

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>>130246515
Because OP is a faggot

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>>130248485
If you cost more to society than you produce you don't deserve to live in that society.
I'm sorry for your disability but I shouldn't have to pay for your problems.
>>130248572
Not an argument.
>>130247781
Not an argument.

>>130248795
But like I said, I probably will give back more to society than what it costs to support me. You're comparing maybe 20 or 30 grand in total to 15 years of successful education and likely 40 years of labour. Anyone can see the value of that investment, even if my labour consisted of being a fucking janitor or something.

>>130248572
Well said.

>>130246865
>implying an Ancap society couldn't exclude people solely based on race

>>130248485
ever heard of a down payment or a contract

>>130247644
>>130247715
Since when do normal anarchists believe in private property rights?

>>130249193
Then you can just get a loan and pay it back when you work.
It would still be easier because you wouldn't get 50% of your paycheck stolen by the government.

>>130246865
Think of it this why, ancap removes the natsoc problem of deciding what's degeneracy. If you're degenerate, you starve.

>>130249851
Property rights are a market good.

>>130246515
If you justify not caring about the poor because of natural selection, don't complain when an angry mob selects you out of the gene pool.

>>130248795
I'm sure you'll totally be saying the exact same thing when you're old and developing arthritis and back pain.

>>130250558
a group of people with pitchforks doesn't do much against an army

>>130250837
>what is investing and planning for retirement
>>130250558
they are free to try to go against my private police force when they violate the NAP

>>130250838
Except when they realize that they as a group are stronger than an individual.
See: French Revolution, Russian Revolution, Haitian Revolution, Cuban Revolution, and countless others

>>130247638
>poor people of my race die
>get replaced by immigrants
genius..!

>>130251194
Only the skilled immigrants will have enough money to come and if you don't like immigration you can always live in a private community that only accepts your own race.
It's the ultimate freedom.

>>130249851
>implying the NAP would protect your property.

>>130251047
In those cases the army was not loyal because they fought for the country, not for their employers.
If those were ancap societies then the army would have shot the NAP violators as their job would have relied on it.
>>130251793
No, but my private army and police forces will.

>>130251194
yeah but here's the thing
there are no immigrants

>>130246515
borders are too important for the existence of distinct cultures, ethnicities, races, and nationalities to dispense

moreover, in a stateless, capitalist society, the one with the capital is the one who rules over you

Soros tier people would only have their power amplified

the closest thing to a soros of the right wing is peter thiel who allegedly donated to trump

he's a conservative at best, while the enemy has genuine communists holding multi billion dollar sums

I want to live in a theocracy state surrounded on all sides by ancaps

>>130253035
then why aren't you ancap

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>>130246515
I am

>>130246515
The poor get help from charity. People jumped up and down to donate to Planned Parenthood (of all things) when federal funds were being threatened. If the need is there, people will donate.

>>130246515
>private police forces would be much more efficient and actually protect your interests because you pay them
what the fuck am i reading
you dont honestly believe that, right? you do realize that its the profit maximization that has done much of the problems in the west today, ie consumer culture replacing native culture, immigration to reduce labour costs and increase the consumer supply, give welfare to every idiot who asks for it to keep the consumer-producer machine running, diminish the wages of your workers to maximize profits, promote war to increase production and consumption, and the list goes on.
either you dont understand this (which means ur an idiot) or you understand it but you actively work towards the downfall of the west

regardless, this is probably bait

>>130246865
In AnCapism, property rights replace borders so white people can have White Supremistan and blacks can have Black Supremistan. You can physically remove degenerates from your property as well. Also,

>2017
>still falling for (((socialism)))

Even if you could sell everyone on this, you have no way of establishing an anarchocapitalist society.

>>130254619
Just because I want to be ruled by god doesn't mean I demand everyone do the same, and I'd rather everyone who doesn't share my values be like ancaps.

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>>130246515
>if you're poor you deserve to die
that's a pretty good
reason to not be ancap

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>>130246515
Because an individual game strategy always loses out to team game strategy.
As long as communists exist, there needs to be a team strategy to defeat them utterly, a la National Socialism, or Fascism dependent on your tastes.

>>130255141
this is the governments fault if it did not exist there would be no welfare, wages would be fair because of the free market and war wouldn't exist because it is not profitable
>>130255723
people are free to team up if it is in their common interest
that's how corporations work

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>>130255861
Then a massive scale corporation that owns al aspects within a geographical area should be no issue. Once again Fascism or National Socialism.

>>130246515
Ancap > Cartels > Feudalism

Ancap is logically impossible. Your ideals do not conform to the inevitable dynamics of human nature.

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>>130256066
*All aspects*
My bad it's late.

>>130255723
If you leave people alone they tend to not bother you.

>>130255861
>people are free to team up if it is in their common interest
Right, and those teams will trample your "non-aggression principle" individual rights as soon as it benefits their team.

Oh you and your friends will ally, and pool resources to protect your rights? Some private security company will secure your rights for a fee? Guess what, you just formed Cartels, and the rudiments of Government.

>>130256175
This is 100% false. It is profitable to capture you, and torture you until you work in the salt mines.

>>130255861
>wages would be fair because of the free market
whta the fuck, how does this even make sense. explain how you came to that conclusion. Explain why employers would not just band together to lower wages?
>war is not profitable
what the fuck, of course war is profitable, the consumption of arms, fuel, metals, vehicles, etc would go through the roof.

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>>130256175
No, communists organize and revolt as is their ideological doctrine. This causes strife for individuals who would seek to be left alone, thus leaving them no choice but to organize and react or be swallowed whole.

>>130256175
REEEEAAALLY works out for people trying to freely operate their business where gangsters are running a protection racket.

>>130246515
military would not be as efficient no company can afford to maintain a carrier task force or 1000 modern MBTs or nuclear weapons ok no matter what demand might be
also you already pay police also the deserve to die this is why your society would die off no concern for your people even Jews care for eachother and work as a team

>>130256421
> what the fuck, of course war is profitable, the consumption of arms, fuel, metals, vehicles, etc would go through the roof.

Without a government securing payment through taxation, how is any of that profitable. In the absence of government, what you are describing are called costs, not profits.

I'm not an ancap, so I will provide the proper rebuttal. War is profitable because it allows you to steal goods, take slaves, and secure access to resources by force.

>>130246515
Retarded. Ancapistan would get invaded by a single tank from guatemala if it existed. Unless you got people to pay a sort of mandatory part of their income to provide for standing army. Unless you did that you would get blietzkrieged by any country. You need taxes for a standing army, private or not, somebody needs to pay, end of discussion.

>>130256642
>any of that profitable?*

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>>130256413
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>>130256452
They don't really bother people who leave them be. If you'll notice, commie violence tends to always come about en lieu of government decisions and actions. Really makes you think, huh?

>>130256500
>where gangsters are running a protection racket
You mean like the biggest extortion racket that's ever existed; the American government?

>>130255409
>still falling for (((socialism)))
Yeah because the jews are really pusing NatSoc. How new are you by the way?

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>>130256885
All it makes me think about is that we'll need to plant more trees.
We need to since we'll run out of branches to hang your lying sniveling ilk on.

>>130256997
idiots do not realise that socialism is older than marx and natsoc is very different not a natsoc but come the fuck on this is getting old

>>130256642
>what you are describing are called costs
they are costs to one man, sales to another
>In the absence of government
in the absence of government war would still be profitable to those who were supplying the means to continue the war, the difference would be that theres no government to buy them, its put to the people
>I'm not an ancap
what are you

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Alright, I'm done with all you dumbfuck ancaps. It's time to disprove your retarded ideology once and for all

>how does the police work in an ancap society

If I kill someone, and then retreat back into my house, the police is not 100% sure that I killed the person since they obviously did not see me commit the act, and therefore cannot enter my property to arrest me. So basically, the police has no real authority, as they cannot perform raids, and cannot arrest people without being 100% sure that they committed a crime. Also if someone who is single, has no family gets killed, there is no incentive at all for anyone to ever investigate the crime or arrest the person who committed it.

>immigration

Ancaps always say that people immigrate to western countries because of welfare, social programs and other benefits, but if some theoretical successful ancap society existed, africans and others would still come because it would still be infinitely better than their shitty continent, even if there was no welfare. Ancaps should stop pretending people won't come to their society because there's no welfare when people would just come for the fact that there would be less violence.

>>130256885
> You mean like the biggest extortion racket that's ever existed; the American government?

Fair enough.

What makes you think that if the American Government were abolished, some other organization of manpower wouldn't take it's place? What makes you think the organization that fills the new power vacuum would be preferable?

It is physically, and tactically possible, and profitable, to organize force to the end of extortion. What, in the AnCap POV, precludes this inevitability?

>>130257168
It's Summer /pol/, do you really expect there to be people who think posting here?

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>>130255409
thats literally not what ancapism means.
what you are describing is just a decentralized government form, not ancapism

true ancapism is downright autistic, decentralized government is what all the (relatively) intelligent ancaps really mean when they say ancap.

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Fascism is more effective at countering communism than libertarianism

Prove me wrong faggots

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Keep sucking jewish cock, Ancucks.

>>130246515
Newsflash, we currently live in AnCap, what do you think bribes are?

>>130257311
I don't pretend to know or ultimately really care what comes after; it's a moral imperative to recognize and denounce evil.
Aggressive violent extortion and subjugation of others to one's arbitrary whims is evil. I don't care who does it - whoever does it is doing evil.

>>130257470
>b..but muh corrupt CIA-planted dictator who expanded the state wuz a libertarian!

>>130257478
nazbol retard confirmed

>>130257470
>Prove me wrong faggots
WW2

>>130246515
I want to exterminate non-Europeans and establish global eugenics. AnCap doesn't suit it well

>>130257664
How many rules and regulations will it take for Anarcho-Capitalism to be implemented?

>>130257187
I don't believe that any political organization is capable, on it's own, is capable of producing harmony, prosperity, social cohesion, and sustainable cultural institutions or quality of life. What is necessary is a common identity, moral code, and sense of shared purpose.

I am not a Nazi (In the German Fuhrer sense), because all false sources of the cultural focal point lead either to blood lust on the one hand, or debauchery on the other. What is necessary is that the common code be founded in the rectification to God, by submission to His Laws, and the acceptance of His Message and Redemption.

I am a Nationalist. All Nationalist forms of Government are effective at producing the good things we want in a society, such as liberty, prosperity, and security (even something akin to National Socialism), as long as the majority of society's members and leaders are good, faithful Christians.

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You say this until youre cornered in your child sex dungeon, fighting hordes of roving cheese eaters for cigarettes. THEN youll be singin a different tune.

>>130257798
You mean, like how the fascists overwhelmingly defeated the communists in the elections, getting all the working class support?

How they completely assraped the communists militarily, forcing them to adopt extreme nationalism? And then could only win after massive economic and military aid from other western powers?

>>130246515
Because the NAP is for pussies.

>>130257832
Serious question, the way I see it, we currently live in a state of anarchy (no prior restraint).
So, seriously, what legislative path do you foresee allowing your pipe dream to come true?

>>130246515
>Muh jews

Always do opposite of what jews tell you.
And there are a lot of jews in libertarianism.

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>>130257755
>Strasserist
>Nazbol

Ancap intellectuals

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>>130246515
Due process, fair trial, protection from unlawful searches, protection from self incrimination, protection from cruel and unusual punishment, and protection from police brutality.

With out a government and a set of laws that everyone is forced to abide by, justice would be dished out by overwhelmingly leftist/ Islamic lynch mobs. They wouln't care if you might be innocent, or if what you are accused of is even a crime.

>>130257887
>common identity
>shared purpose
I don't have to believe the same things as my neighbor about what my purpose in life is to get along with him.
I certainly don't have to need anything really in common with him except that he doesn't go out of his way to hurt people.

>>130257470
you cant since they were the only ones to counter commies with some sucess liberal democracy would always get subverted in the end the hyper individualistic nature of ancaps would mean the downfall quite quick not collectivist but come on at some point you have to put the good and future of the family above your own

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>>130257935
Calm down, that was obviously a joke.

>>130257989
How many "rights" will be trampled in the name of implimenting the AnCap utopia?

>>130257798
throwing milions of russians that were eating american spam firing american bullets driving trucks and tanks from america at the same time with limited resources and constant bombing of industrial centers so how did i do?

>>130247029
Society naturally elects a state.

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>>130246515
>>muh poor
>if you're poor you deserve to die, ever heard of natural selection?

This is a redpill /pol/ refuses to swallow for some reason.

>>130257712
>I don't pretend to know or care what comes after
So you are just another proud, naive, idealistic revolutionary who will destroy the institutions of society, leading to the death of millions in order to impose your personal vision for the world on others.

>it's a moral imperative to recognize and denounce evil.
Organization of man power is natural, inevitable, and usually good. Organization of man power can be used for crime. Unless men choose to organize in order to check the greed, pride and wickedness of other men, those wicked men will run rampant. This organization for the common good is what we call Government. Government is, properly understood, a good, not an evil.

Of course, unless men are properly instructed on what is and is not good, and given the means to conform to the good, good government is impossible.

>>130258277
this
human being fall in a hierarchy of superiors and inferiors the former leads and the other follows all naturally

>>130246515
>muh morally superior system
>that never works out in reality for some reason..

what is communism?

>>130246515
>Give me one (1) good reason why you aren't an ancap

it doesn't work as well as the state, pretty much any kind of state, that is why states inevitably replace it they out compete it.

>>130258077
>I certainly don't have to need anything really in common with him
This sadly, is where your gone.
>go out of his way to hurt people
Only the deranged go out of their way to hurt people. They hurt people because it is more convenient, and beneficial to hurt people than not to.

>>130258425
I'm a Christian, and thus a pacifist, and thus an anarchist.
I'm not going to impose anything. I'm going to live my life denouncing evil - as I'm commanded - and hope for your sake you and everyone else comes around before your death and subsequent judgement.

Power is a buzzword. All it really means is the capability to do some thing x; the way you just utilized it is poor.

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>>130258397
Poverty only comes in if a person is incapable of producing anything useful or tangible. If they can't then yes they do deserve death, or at least hardship until they can produce. You know NatSoc and Fasc both have this as a principle as well.

>>130258663
>This sadly, is where your gone
What do I need to have in common with you?
I'm a pacifist. I need nothing in common with you whatsoever to not cause you issues.

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>>130258677
>(((Christian)))
Fuck off.

>>130258397
This and I don't know why /pol/ tries to avoid the importance of extermination of non-Europeans as of ALIEN and collectively inferior genetic groups. It's evolutionary right and rational thing to do

Probably has to do with the fact that 80% of half pol are non-white subhumans

i think middle class people are worse than poor people and i can't stand their poser asses. imagine killing yourself bc you lost your job and now you can't pay for the house you couldn't afford in the first place. they give true wealth a bad name.

>>130246515
I don't want to have to change my tires after every car trip

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>>130258843
what about this Christians anon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXKeiTTN7Wc

>>130246515
Because ancaps are immature college kids or retards who never went to college, but who work for UPS and picked up a few books from a recommended reading list for pseudo-intellectuals. It's for stupid and naive children

>>130258869
isn't more than 80% of russia poor? probably you yourself would be poor in the usa don't think because you have a computer you're not.

>>130258677
Christians have always understood that to allow evil to occur is itself evil. Do you think you understand the gospel better than the first century Christians who lived to see Jesus Christ themselves?

>Power is a buzzword. All it really means is the capability to do some thing x; the way you just utilized it is poor.

I said organization of man power, as in people coordinating their ability to do some thing x. People are capable of coordinating their ability to do evil. Unless others coordinate their ability to stop them, those who coordinate their ability to do evil will run rampant literally murdering and raping children. This is not a hyperbole.

>>130258814
You need pacificism in common with me in order for me to not cause you, and the innocent children around you, who you refuse to protect, problems.

Your refusal to protect the weak and innocent is not noble, it's cowardly.

Wouldn't ancap basically just devolve into wage slavery?

>>130246515
> ever heard of natural selection?

Yeah under those rules, the first to form a unified opposition kills you and then forms a government, probably a totalitarian dictatorship.

Tell me about:

> Conflict Resolution between dissenting parties.

Ancap can't deal with conflict resolution. For equal arbitration you need democratically elected reps to oversee the resolution.

Look at why Afghanistan would rather have the Taliban then ancap. They might be giant cocksuckers but they'll legit blow your brains out or cut of limbs for minor offenses. Somebody rapes your daughter, they'll kill your daughter AND her rapist. Somebody steals your sheep they'll kill that person, give you his money and take your sheep.

>>130259131
>Christians have always understood that to allow evil to occur is itself evil
?????????????????

"Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.” ( Mt 5.44 , Lu 6.27 , Lu 6.3 ) “Do not use force against an evil man.” ( Mt 5.39 ) “Do not resist evil with evil.” “Forgive and you will be forgiven.” (Lu 6.37 ) “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Mat 7.12 )

>>130259225
>problems
I don't care what you do. You *CAN'T* cause me problems - *YOU* are judged for your worldly actions, not me. Don't even pretend to be a Christian you world-loving hedonistic shill.

>>130246865
>I'd rather live in a NatSoc white society than an AnCap mixed soceity.

Before government intervention America was segregated. Then via government intervention they started forcing schools to be more diverse and accept niggers from the ghetto part of town into rich white suburbs and this is the result:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sWtlaQ3G4Eg

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAOrVLlrG_o

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FolUliFxkBw

>>130259105
I actually have a nice house in Newport, so try again mongrel. And I don't give a shit about the %. After non-Europeans are gone, 50-70% of whites should be sterilised or shot for eugenic purposes

>>130248485
in an ancap society a simple hearing aid wouldn't cost $10,000, it would cost $10. problem solved

>>130259798
not an argument

>>130258869
>>130259634
Based.

Also what do you do for work?

>>130259459
>I state something about how the early Christians understood the gospel. Rebuts with his own interpretation of the gospel.

I'm certainly not hedonistic. I seek to deny myself pleasure on a daily basis.

Luke 22:36 - "But now," he said, "take your money and a traveler's bag. And if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one"

Proverbs 31:8-9 - Open your mouth for the mute, for the rights of all who are destitute. Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.

Isaiah 1:17 - Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause.

Timothy 3:14 - And let our people learn to devote themselves to good works, so as to help cases of urgent need, and not be unfruitful.

>I don't care what you do. You *CAN'T* cause me problems - *YOU* are judged for your worldly actions, not me. Don't even pretend to be a Christian you world-loving hedonistic shill.

Being not of this world, as Christ talks of it, means not living for the fruits of this world. That means we do the righteous thing even when the fruits in this life are not immediately apparent. He told us to be in the world, that means not living in some fantasy utopia you've concocted.

Standing idly by while a man brutally rapes a 6 year old girl is not righteous, or christian, it is cowardly.

What you are describing is not Christianity, it is Gnosticism.

>>130250837
I'm make 20k a month selling shit on Ebay and Amazon, I will be fine if I get a disease cause I save money.

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>>130246515
r u still a virgin at 40 years? why don't you join ANCAP anon? A place where childless slobs join together and ponder what power feels like.

>>130259634
newport is the poor man's malibu

>>130259634
You people are worse than socialists. Good luck with the genetic degeneration caused by culling the majority of your genetic stock, and thereby proliferating defects, and eliminating uncorrupted genetics.

>>130260034
You quoted two OT verses, a verse about buying a sword in the days when wild animals still roamed the roads, and a Pauline verse that says nothing against what I'm articulating to you from Scripture.

Let me quote these verses again, and you tell me why you hate Christ that you completely ignore His explicit commands to you.

"Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.” ( Mt 5.44 , Lu 6.27 , Lu 6.3 ) “Do not use force against an evil man.” ( Mt 5.39 ) “Do not resist evil with evil.” “Forgive and you will be forgiven.” (Lu 6.37 ) “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Mat 7.12 )

>tfw you don't have money to raise an army to combat your next door neighbor's acquisition of your land so you crowdfund an assassination of him and his family, using the pooled Bitcoin of the other neighbors whose land he's taken

The free market always fixes it.

>>130259868
Literally money laundering and tax avoidance
>>130260157
10,000 is enough to produce a healthy society. I'm sure leaving 30% of modern Whites (that's MILLIONS of people) alive and exterminating the rest, will sky rocket our progress hundredfold

>>130250186
Thats retarded. I can be the most degenerate twisted person on earth and still make money. In fact the lack of standards and ethics would likely make me a better business man in the ancap world.

>>130246865
>Living in an ancap society
>Not living in a privately owned whites only village

>>130260095
Sorry not sorry, that I'm a native European and enjoy green areas, sailing and cool wind.

>>130256997
They are pushing neoconservatism.
>Muh country needs to wage war
>Muh country needs a big army
>Muh country needs a natural enemy
>Muh country needs economic protectionism
>Muh country needs to spy on its citizens

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>>130260646
The Amerifat your responding to is probably poor white trash from the south. They do meth, ride their shitty old trucks, and leech welfare while living in the trailer park. Poor whites are only slightly better than niggers and should be purged as well.

>>130260095
>Enjoying living anywhere it doesn't snow in the winter every year
Anywhere south of Pennsylvania is too fucking hot to live in. Let the niggers have the south and their hundred degree summer days.

>>130251706
Thats even more retarded.
>the preservation of your race now has a price tag
>he wants to live in a world of 99% coffee mixed proles with no identity or racial history to take pride in with tiny pockets of whites hiding and clutching their rifles

>>130260291
>You quoted two OT verses
Your god would preach evil one die, and then righteousness the next, and you call this God good? A god who would teach evil, is a devil, not a God.

The moral teachings of the OT hold. Only the sacramental rites and laws are abrogated

"I came to fulfill the law."

>a verse about buying a sword in the days when wild animals still roamed the roads
Swords are extremely ineffective against wild animals. If it were about animals, he would tell them to buy a spear.

>a Pauline verse that says nothing against what I'm articulating to you from Scripture.
Read it again. " so as to help cases of urgent need". Letting a little girl be raped isn't helping the cause of those in urgent need.

>"Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you."
I do both of those things. If my enemy were coming solely for my life, I'd be willing to lay down my life. This has nothing to do with protecting the innocent.

>Do not use force against an evil man.Do not resist evil with evil.
You haven't even finished the sentence in that quote. Full quote: "but I say unto you, resist not him that is evil: but whosoever smiteth thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." A strike on the cheek is an insult. This is an admonition to be long suffering. This has nothing to do with not protecting the helpless.

>Forgive and you will be forgiven.
Nothing to do with pacifism.

>Do not be anxious about your life.
Doesn't go against anything I'm saying. Defending the weak and helpless involved putting your life on the line.

>In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.

So if you were a child about to be beaten bloody, you would have others stand by and passively watch? I would have them help me, and I will do the same for others.

>>130261132
>Your god would preach evil one day*

>>130248485
>So in an ancap society, would I be essentially a bumbling moron who can't speak coherently, since my parents probably couldn't afford the repairs and maintenance for the hearing aids?
>hearing aids

>>130261132
Yep - not a Christian.
Why pretend you're something you're not? Does lying give you pleasure?

>>130261132
>So if you were a child about to be beaten bloody, you would have others stand by and passively watch?
Absolutely. Without question. I'd rather be murdered than someone sin - I know where I'm going when I die.

>>130261229
>Yep - not a Christian.
>Why pretend you're something you're not? Does lying give you pleasure?

So no arguments then? I just defended my Christian view using Christian tradition, and quoting scripture. You literally edited scriptures to fit your cowardly, Utopian point of view.

Jesus Christ is called King of Kings. Doesn't sound very anarchist to me.

>>130261229
Christianity. Dysgenics the cult
>>130260918
Very much honest observation. Don't think that NE white aristocracy is all good and swell. Plenty of idiots who need their "tubes" tied too

>>130249687
This, you could create covenants based on demographic groups so you'd not have to worry about demographic shifting. Less in-fighting more efficiency.

>>130261453
What if you hadn't been saved/ christian and someone were murdering you. Not saving you would be condemning you to hell. If they, risked their life to save you, they'd have a sure inroad in converting you. We are commanded to bring others into the Kingdom of God, are we not.

>>130256997
Implying socialism, the system which uses in excess, wasn't created by the jewish Karl Marx

How new are YOU motherfucker? Name three oldfag memes right now.

>>130261531
>edited
You can read those verses the same in fucking Greek.
God has authority over all Creation.
Men don't have authority over anything, let alone one another. That's as anarchistic as it gets.

>>130261717
>What if you hadn't been saved/ christian and someone were murdering you
Do no evil. Nobody ought to sin - period.

>Not saving you would be condemning you to hell
No man condemns *ANYONE* to hell. Each soul is judged by God Almighty and not a single thing anyone else does is remotely as Perfect as His Judgment.

>>130261453
Jesus Christ chased money changers out of the temple by attacking them with whips. How does this fit in with your pacifist version of the Gospel?

>>130261975
He's God and has authority over all Creation and can and does judge humans.
How does that *NOT* fit with exactly what I'm saying?

>>130259459
Explain how any of those verses are relevant.
Don´t use force unprovoked. Dont do evil things to fight evil or else you are no better. Don't fear death. Treat people with kindness or expect to be bitched at. These things should all be common sense without scripture telling you, but lord knows how commies hate common sense

>>130261876
>Men don't have authority over anything
Matthew 10:1 - Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
Romans 13:1 - Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
Again "The authorities that exist have been established by God." A clear endorsement of human authority.

>>130262246
>Don´t use force unprovoked
No - the verse is *ITSELF* in the context *OF* being provoked. READ. SCRIPTURE. Jesus Christ.

>>130246515
Externalities are a thing.

/thread

>>130262114
We are commanded to follow Jesus Christ's example. "If any would follow me, pick up his cross and follow me". There are other quotes to this effect. Jesus was setting the ultimate example. He used force against others in pursuit of righteous causes.

>>130262341
It says "don't use force against an evil man" not "let someone stab you because fighting back would be mean"
Communists are evil """"""men""""""" but i don't use force against them unless provoked.

>>130260746
>>130260959
you guys are too poor and uncultured to know what you're talking about

>>130262266
Romands 13 is Pauline horseshit that runs directly counter to the Gospels. Christ performed miracles and used other people to perform miracles - no shit?

>>130262505
You are not to do everything Christ did - there are no verses that say anything like that. Christ is God. God judges men. You're told by God to *NOT* judge.
Let me put it this way; what do you think is more reasonable - that Christ contradicts Himself in telling us not to use violence and also to do exactly as He does (which He doesn't do) in this instance of the driving from the temple, or that He's God Himself who has authority to judge the very souls of humanity?

>>130262612
Read Matthew 5:39. Jesus Christ - at least know the Scripture you're attempting to try to argue from.

>>130246515
dumb frogposter

>>130262612
>don't use force against an evil man
The greek is literally, don't resist, not don't use force. The context makes it clear, invoking a slap not a murder or a rape or something else more grave.

Jesus Christ praised a Roman Soldier. Christian morality is extremely self sacrificing, and pacifist under most circumstances, but to say it's anarchistic is absurd in the highest.

Wasn't the Kowloon Walled city an ancap settlement? Or at least operating on principles of one. And looking at that it worked, sure but wasn't a very nice place to live in. Besides, responsible government spending can have it's benefits. Especially medical research into extremely rare diseases and conditions that'd otherwise be unprofitable for your average pharma company to look into.

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>>130246515
Because ancaps dont understand the difference between natural selection and artificial selection.

Human natural selection ended just under a century ago. We are now masters of our own evolutionary destiny, this is artificial selection.

I may stand alone, but the people here have it right for the most part so I support you any way.

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>>130246515
>private armies
probably the worst idea op the lot, good luck with your small ass fuedal fiefdoms with perpetual warfare and armies that constantly switch sides based on monetary incentive, wow what a stable and fantastic society that would be

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>>130263116
would literally be africa blood diamond tier place to live

>>130263116
war isn't profitable retard so there would be no war because everyone in an ancap society would make rational decisions

>>130262788
> Christ performed miracles and used other people to perform miracles - no shit?
He used the word "authority". He gave the apostles authority over something. You said no human has authority over anything. You were directly contradicting the gospel.

> no shit?
Scandalous language is soooo Christian.

>You are not to do everything Christ did - there are no verses that say anything like that. Christ is God. God judges men. You're told by God to *NOT* judge.
Let me put it this way; what do you think is more reasonable - that Christ contradicts Himself in telling us not to use violence and also to do exactly as He does (which He doesn't do) in this instance of the driving from the temple, or that He's God Himself who has authority to judge the very souls of humanity?

He's God, come in the flesh fully as a man. Those human things he does (not divine things like judging souls) can't be evil for a human to do, as he sets the perfect moral example for a human life. To say otherwise makes a mockery of the gospel.

1 Corinthians 11: 1-2 - Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you.

John 8:12 - Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

1 Peter 1:14-16 - As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, but as he who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.”

again 1 Corinthians 11: 1-2 - Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.

Matthew 11:28-30 - Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.

>>130263400
>He used
Christ doesn't speak in that passage.

>>130263378
War is profitable. Stealing things, taking slaves, and securing resources by force, are all profitable. Groups are more effective than individuals.

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>>130263378
>people are always rational argument
this is completely false, there are hordes of people who act irrationally and without monetary incentive, look at religious extremists or philanthropists

>>130263426
>Christ doesn't speak in that passage.
It says Jesus gave the Apostles authority to drive out evil spirits. It says Jesus gave the apostles authority. You're quibbling.

>>130263400
>scandalous language
Jesus Christ. You're not a Christian. You're a "cultural christian".

So you're maintaining that God Himself self-contradicts His own commands to us, despite the fact that He doesn't, and you're extrapolating from non-explicit verses exulting the activities of God Himself (as they ought to be exulted) that men are to do exactly as God does even in those cases where God explicitly claims sole authority. Brilliant scholarship.

>>130263561
The verses I quote are the explicit, spoken Word of Christ Himself. Christ doesn't give anyone authority over anything - He let the apostles perform miracles. The ability to perform miracles isn't authority - nothing is being held as subservient, which is what authority entails in modern English.

>>130263631
>Jesus Christ.
Using the lords name is a sin. It's called blasphemy. So you don't follow all of God's commandments, just the ones that mean you don't ever have to put yourself in harms way. Coward.

>So you're maintaining that God Himself self-contradicts His own commands to us
I'm doing nothing of the kind. I'm pointing out that you are extrapolating very specific versus into the catch all for morality of anarchy and pacifism.
> even in those cases where God explicitly claims sole authority
Defending the weak is not an area where God explicitly claims sole authority.

>that men are to do exactly as God does
I said nothing of the kind. Men are to follow the perfect moral example that God set, when he incarnated as a man on earth. Notice that Jesus Christ didn't actually judge people prior to the crucifixion. Just as we aren't to judge people. Jesus Christ was the perfect man.

>>130263802
The evil spirits are being held as subservient. They Holy Gospel uses the word authority, it says the apostles were given authority by God. By what authority do you contradict Scripture?

>>130263934
>Using the lords name is a sin
That's hilariously wrong.

>not an area where God explicitly claims sole authority
Judgement of men. If you want to throw yourself in front of a bullet, that's perfectly fine and admirable - I'd do the same in a heartbeat for any person. If you want to violently punish people and use sinful force to hurt or slay people because you find it more expedient or "effective" in protecting people or things you care about in the world, you're disobeying God and you'll be judged for it.

>Notice that Jesus Christ didn't actually judge people prior to the crucifixion
?????????????????????
Matthew 23?????

ok anyways any non ancaps go back to your retarded commie containment thread
>>130256877

What's with the surge of ancap slide threads recently? Did the shills data mine 4chan enough to pick this as their newest divide and conquer tactic?

>>130264011
>The evil spirits
What is an "evil spirit"? Diseases and infirmities aren't conscious beings that can be subservient. That's almost entirely what is always being referred to when "evil spirits" are referenced in Scripture, with few exceptions that only Christ Himself explicitly deals with. Why would I believe not only those maladies which we understand today are the evil spirits being referenced there?

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this whole fucking thread

>>130257168
>muh not real socialism
kys

>>130246515
>1% takes half of all the nation's wealth
> Whatever, they didn't deserve life anyways
> Fucking peasants, why do they keep being born peasants

>>130264591
>divide and conquer
You "unity" erupted into a bunch of low intelligence ugly mongrels like Alt Right and Kuckistanis

>>130256997
Socialism, of any flavor, creates common ownership over certain things and this always leads to democracy.

It also creates the perception that democracy should decide people's morality, and ultimately leads to maximum centralization because centrally planned economies will always blame lack of centralization when they fail.

Socialism of any kind always leads to communism.

>>130260646
>money laundering and tax avoidance
you are one of the first niggers that ought to be culled in an eugenic society, die in a fire pls, your parents never loved you and being edgy on the internet will never ever change that fact

>>130269400
People who rightly pay taxes to anti-White dysgenic system that saves half-dead newborn filth and provides White retards and non-white untermenschen with care are dysfunctional in terms of evolutionary strategy no less. Why don't you stop using welfare, subhuman halfbreed?

>>130247704
rich people will have private body guards that will fuck you up and enslave your peasant ass

>>130246515
>Don't even know what it is

How's that reason nigger?

>>130246515
all ancaps deserve to be shot without a fair trial and no questions asked, execution by firing squad for even being a slightly suspected ancap

>>130258011
not an argument

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>>130246515
>implying you need anarcho capitalism to get into space
have fun paying your workers a penny a fucking hour for muh profits, they'll become rich if they just werk harder™ go back to your cuck shed faggot

>>130270666
First movie about adopting a nigger? - check!
"Circus" 1936
BASED USSR!

>>130270718
>slav
wew

>>130270766
Celtic-Germanic actually and what's that supposed to mean? Anti-Slavic racism never existed in European nationalism outside of Italian Fascist period that was against Balkanites. Or outside of Austria-Hungary(co-ruled by Slavic Czech), but even there it was against Serbians, whom they rightly considered mixed raced.

Anti-Slavic sentiment against Russians never existed at all. Inb4 Hitler - ethnic Russians held Highest Officer positions in Third Reich, niggers and part nigger in Europe were outright exterminated on the spot. You find the difference

>>130271006
>being anti Stalin
you Ruski anti Stalin fags would and should have been shot under the Stalin era

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Reminder that AnComs aren't welcome in a board of free men. :^)

>>130271266
ancoms are a disgrace to even real authoritarian communists

>>130271135
I'm affluent, genocidal eugenicist, athletic, a property owner, a firearm owner and of Celtic-Germanic racial descent. My existence by definition is anti-stalinist.


If you like or support the Soviet Union = you sucked off a nigger

(((USSR)))

A quick rundown

Making propaganda films about interracial adoption IN 1936

funding (((Civil Rights))) in the US

funding and arming Mandela terrorists

funding anti-racist anti-colonialist groups in Europe.

(((USSR))) CÜCKPOSTED IRL.

"Circus" (Russian: Циpк; translit. Tsirk) is a 1936 Soviet melodramatic comedy musical film.

Orlova plays an American circus artist who, after giving birth to a black baby (played by James Lloydovich Patterson), immediately becomes a victim of racism and is forced to stay in the circus, but finds refuge, love and happiness in the USSR. Her black son is embraced by friendly (((Soviet))) people.

>Soviet Jewnion was so ((((((((based)))))))

Soviets were the first to came up with making IR relationship films and importing nigges en masse

Commie sympathetic scum, go and adopt a nigger

Because it's 1936

>>130271853
just adopted 3 black children :^) I love Stalin and I love guns too

>>130246515
You pay for everything you massive retard, government is just an organization that collects money. It's same shit if Microsoft collects money or government collects money. Microsoft will screw you even more if they become the tax collectors. If you become the tax collector you will screw us even more than Microsoft. Ancap is reinvention of wheel what we already had in past, like in stone age.

>>130271958
>I love Stalin
>I love guns too
Schizophrenics with low iq on this board give me one of the best laughter sessions

>>130247781
>Because there is no such thing as anarchy therefore anyone claiming to be an anarchist is obviously an idiot.

Anarcho-* only exists as a method/philosophy for operating under a government.

Not everybody is meant to practice it.

Nazis and lefties are so indoctrinated they think freedom is pure evil

Is freedom too hard to swallow for you?

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>>130272352
>not liking Stalin or guns
Stalin was a strong man
a strong WORKING man
he showed no pity to the non working nigger and sent the non working niggers to the gulag where they deserved to be

>>130272479
Some of us want to use our freedom of association to join our resources in order to exterminate the lesser. Would you deny that European only world with eugenics would be more free and environmental that what we have now?

>>130272767
>that mongoloid thinks he'd get to have rifles and handguns under Stalin
Fucking moron

>>130272809
As long as they are non-violent i dont see a problem with them

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>>130272853
yeah non working niggers like you wouldn't have guns, but the working strong men got the guns and fought for their people

>>130246515
See you take a decent idea and add
>Anarcho
And it instantly turns to shit

Anarchists like communists miscalculate human nature. Communists think we're all equal denying natural selection/evolution while anarchists ignore that many people naturally want power and that its all just going to go back to being a government/statist society anyway eventually

>>130246865
This, I'd prefer to live in an ethnostate but that isn't even the main reason I don't want ancap, I don't want it because it's so disgustingly self-serving. I'd much rather live in a community that's working to the mutual benefit of each other, I don't want poor whites dying on the street because they can't afford their McHealthcare. Niggers? Sure let them die.

>>130250186
You are retarded obviously. Some of the most degenerate people are also pretty fucking intelligent. They can make a shitton of money.

>>130273821
Define white.

>>130273984
>Some of the most degenerate people are also pretty fucking intelligent.

aaaaand just like that we're back to the Jewish question. Ancaps BTFO'd yet again.

>>130273994
Northern Europeans.

>>130272961
Who cares about what you think? We must exterminate genetically inferior collectives of non-European descent and genetically inferior individual Europeans. Yes, that includes violence
>>130273994
Fully European descent
>>130273067
Bix mood fuck off. No one but special services had handguns in the JewSSR

>>130274117
>>130274180
>helping babies just because they happen to have some faint connection to you (if at all)

They are supposed to be wiped out.

>>130274385
Statements like this make me glad ancap will never come to fruition, it's a soul-less ideology.

>>130274643
>being free is being soul-less

t. a man who has completely sold his soul to the state

>>130274385
I didn't understand you post at all. What must be done is simple: extermination of genetically dissimilar non-Europeans across the globe followed by extermination of weak and genetically inferior Europeans.

Ever-increasingly better gene pool of the homogenous collective you live in is a guarantee of advancement and high quality of each individual born

>>130246515
>>muh poor
>if you're poor you deserve to die, ever heard of natural selection?

Stopped reading there. Natural selection under unnatural conditions, good one.

This thread is thouroughly retarded.

There would still be government in ancap. It just wouldnt be compulsory you dips. It's still profitable to let someone use your roads for example in exchange for a fee. But you wouldnt be compelled to pay for nigger welfare just because you want to use the roads. Some societies might say: fuck off, pay the whole package or you dont get roads. But they couldnt then coerce you to pay. How to presrrve this basic simple right of not being coerced into any sort of arrangement is another thing. But the basic idea is to take the sovereignity over the land from the government and give it to the people that own that land.

Why do you hate freedom you fucks? There would still be an america. Or a germany. They just couldnt force you to participate if it sucks. Successfull (prolly white cause lets be real) communities would prosper and the less profitable shitholes would die out. If you love natsoc just make a natsoc state. But I shouldnt be forced to take part in it only because I happen to own land within or in proximity to your community. Your community, your country would be wherever the people participating own the land . And I can have my little anarchistic commune right smack in the middle of it and I leave your property alone and you mine.

I do concede that the only viable way to live in such a state of individual sovereignity and to protect a simple : Nobody may impose any form of contract on another without their consent (my version of the nap) would be to have an apparatus above all people solely dedicated to that function. But for that apparatus to be both capable to enforce and incorruptable it would have to be a god given degree. By an actual tangible god. Maybe we can figure out some AI routine for that. Those who pay are protected. Those who dont are free and fair game. As far as it concerns the apparatus.

t. mad phoneposter