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What the FUCK!!!!!!!!!! AMERICANS actually ALLOW this in their

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What the FUCK!!!!!!!!!! AMERICANS actually ALLOW this in their society!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>130235729
you know 10 dollars an hour was a fuck ton back then and living quarters were cheap because of quality
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>>130235853
But now it's not and thats why the miniumum wage should atleast be $15 if not 20-30
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>>130235729
She must live in an expensive area and her kids must all have meme degrees
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Better import more shitskins to lower the wages for the job creators.
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>>130235729
Most gas stations start you at $10 an hour now unless its really rural. What kind of shit degree do her kids have?
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>>130235729

Don't tell me, communism is the answer to this?
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>>130235729
You can still make the modern day equivalent, just got to land a factory job and work for it. The average UAW line worker makes about $60k-$70k after benefits. You are all just lazy niggers and neets.
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>>130235729
Yeah, we do. What's your point? Nobody's obligated to give you money.
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>>130235729
Because no one ever wants to talk about the root cause of all economic problems; Monetary Policy.

The only thing people talk about is fiscal policy.
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OP is an idiot. Minimum wage hasn't changed too much of the years... it isn't lower today than in 1983 (in normalized dollars).

OP's children are idiots. Don't spend a ton of money on a non-marketable degree. My kids made a damned fortune when graduating with STEM degrees.
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>>130235948
Fuck it, why not make it 40-50? Why stop there?
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>>130237788
>Don't tell me, communism is the answer to this?
Monetary policy reform.
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>$25 an hour without so much as a GED
Uh huh.
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>>130237737

Probably the kind that make you more useless than an HS grad.

I'd take an 18 year old HS grad as an employee over a 22 year old with a marxist degree, a ton of debt, and a chip on their shoulder.

I started at $30/hr right out of university with my eng degree.
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>>130235729
Since 1983, 4 out of 6 U.S. presidents have been Republicans. Coincidence that things have become so shitty since then? I think not.
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>>130238027
Back then you could graduate with anything and be good, shit you just barely had to graduate high school.
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>>130235729

>voted to let all the illegals in and lower wages
>voted for all kinds of feel-good shit that females vote for
>allowed her kids to pick some dumb bullshit like gender studies or sociology

These dumbasses are always looking for someone to blame when they chose this.
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>>130237898
>people shouldn't be obligated to make civilization function
Even the commies would be better than you.
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>>130238009
Oy vey
Watch the words you say there goy
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>>130238316

That's the problem, people expect college to be a payout.

It isn't anymore, because degrees are no longer a separating factor, and the "education" has been watered down to the point that you would learn more on 4chan in 4 years than you would in nearly any university.

Not even being hyperbolic.
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>>130235729
third worlders and automation
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>>130238242
Democrat or republican
They all served the same (((master)))
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>>130238207
I completely agree with your hiring policy
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>>130238207
I rememeber a buddy learning that overqualified isnt a meme. not going to hire some kid that just finished college when the high schooler will be pleased as punch making minimum wage pumping gas and stocking shelves.
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>>130235729
Wow, her kids must've gotten some shit degrees and zero marketable talents. People don't deserve more money because "muh degree" but if they actually deserve it.
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This is the problem with the leaf mentality. Sit on your throne and shit on America while we make $50 an hour as a college graduate. Why don't you SJW about your white genocide.
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>>130238138
My dad made 40k a year at age 25 with a ged. Just saying. He's 56 now, making 67k. It's hilarious to me that /pol/ knows or at least claims to know how the Jews are ripping them off and making them into cattle, yet defends their system lmao. Good goys. At least we can all be slaves until extinction together, am I right?
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>>130235729
>My kids have college degrees and are making $10 dollars an hour
Your kids have shit degrees.
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>>130238617
everything i learned i learned from 4chan.
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>>130235729
Shit degrees and inflation. Fix the money and you fix the problem.
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>>130235729

unfortunately true.

society shifted from manufacturing to trades to service based economy in 1 generation, it fucked everyone.

>no one in family every went to college
>try manufacturing sector
>ha ha.jpg
>try trades sector
>unions have fallen apart, private sector doesn't want apprentices, no way to get my foot in the door.
>also, no habla espaniol
>fuck it I'll go to college
>but what should I major in, so many options
>I'll ask the counselors, surely they won't steer me in the wrong direction
>"lol it doesn't matter major in anything and you will get a good job with your degree pick what you love!!!!!!!
>get meme degree
>sink 4 years and 50k debt into it
>graduate and no jobs
>eventually start lying on my job applications and saying I never went to college
>get McDonalds job at 29

I guess this is the new American dream.
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>>130235729
I agree. We should get rid of these worthless degrees like gender studies.
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>>130235729
Yes rent us 1k a month but I don't have a degree and make 35hr. Why would u take this poster seriously
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>>130239031
>My dad made 40k a year at age 25 with a ged.
And this person is claiming $12k more without a GED, try again you illiterate fucktard.
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>>130235729
>my kids have college degrees and are making barely more than minimum wage

the problem is not the minimum wage, but that your kids are fucking stupid
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>>130238009
whatever you do, don't talk about janet yellen. it's not an inside job.
>runs away from assassins
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>>130235729
I cant stand liberal kikes who try to turn this on capitalism or whatever. Its their own fault. Boomers are the reason we are in this shit and have the audacity to blame it on anything but themselves. Kill them all.
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>>130235729
Libtards allowed the kikes to fuck this country over, flood it with subhumans, and now they complain that there aren't any high-paying jobs.

This is what you wanted, you pedophiles. Enjoy flipping burgers. Conservatives are smart and get real degrees instead of liberal arts faggotry. I'm not the one who will be starving to death because Pedro from Honduras was hired to meet a diversity quota.
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>>130239425
seriously fuck boomers
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>>130235729
It's twice as bad in your country leaf. Why did YOU allow it?
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>>130235729
> $1000 for a flat
Stop trying to live in the democrat infested cities, retard. Move to a rural (or smaller city) that's most likely republican. Rents cheap.
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>>130239322
Dont blame the kids blame the system, councillors and teachers. Im 2 years out of high school and the go to university unless you want to be a fuckup also take whatever you love propaganda is real.
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Fucking boomers.
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>>130239284
>doesn't believe making money without pedigree is possible
Are you a cop?
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>>130235729
If you were doing so well in 1983 and still living in a 1 br apartment today there's a pretty good chance you're just retarded
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>>130235729
Thanks globalism, now we have to compete with the whole world.
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>>130235853
Do you think every building that is currently available for rent was built anew since 1983?
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>>130238052
Make it a billion an hour. That way everyone can be a billionaire and not just the old rich white men.
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>>130235729
I make 29/hr and my rent is 1800
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>>130239899

This

>Put me in the screen cap
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socialism inflation as money dumped down lawyer n burocrat drain

what you expect

go back to 1800s 1% gdp is total goernment spending

ended slavery
made usa no1
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>>130235948

I smell a highschool student. Dont you understand that the doller will inflate more if you increase minimum wage?
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>>130239800
Where does it imply they pay $1000 per month?
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>>130235853
>living quarters were cheap because of quality
Houses in the 80s were built much better than those built today though famalam.
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>>130235729
>1k rent for 1 bedroom
Christ, where do you live and why do you continue to live there?
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>>130235853
No it wasn't you shill fuck.

My dad graduated college in engineering in late 80s and he was making 45k a year.

Wages are the same today.

The woman in OP's photo is right whether you faggots want to admit or not, you can continue to play the contrarian to your own detriment because "muh liberals lol", but it's true.
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>>130240501

No they weren't, it's essentially the same process.

t. contractor
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Tfw $60 an hour and $250 rent per week.
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>>130240935
>t. contractor
Are you me?
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>>130239150
No it didn't - there is still a healthy trade economy, but the catch is it no longer exists in first world countries, outside Japan.
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>>130235729
burgers were bought and sold circa late 70's

what's left today are just the just the fizzling detritus of their imperial embers that were left behind
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>>130241007

no
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>>130240588
1K is cheap. In DC it's more like 2K - you can only get a shitty studio for 1K. That's why you have people in their 20s living with roommates.
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>>130235729
Consider suicide you leaf faggot
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>>130238027
Liar. You have no kids nor are you old enough to have kids who graduated.

truth is some people get even less. My cousin in Mississippi works for 7.50 an hour as a fucking manager of Citgo.
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>>130241136
Okay.
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>>130240777
Check'd

Good luck explaining that to a normie, they just blue screen, if you really make them see the reality of the situation - they just do a system restore and go back to thinking if they vote for party A next time instead of party B then it'll all be ok soon.
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>>130235729
This is the direct result of a failing monetary system. Monetize the debt, lie about the inflation numbers and the middle class gets wiped out. ((The Central Banks)) are the enemy, don't ever forget it.
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>>130242138
This is correct. I'll add that minimum nominal wages ultimately reduce minimum REAL wages. Combined with intentional inflation, and you've got an economy that's actually reducing the spending power of you hour's wage, something which is almost impossible in a truly free market.

Thanks central banks.
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>>130238027
>it isn't lower today than in 1983 (in normalized dollars).
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>>130235948
Let's make it 1 million dollars an hour so we can all be rich.
Rich guys BTFO!
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>>130242713
Min wage and such are almost irrelevant issues that politicians use to pretend they are trying to solve the problem and cause partisan fighting.
The broken monetary system and the extreme debt growth is a much more important issue but everyone ignores it.
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>>130241716
Or maybe next time we vote for a non establishment, self made dark horse candidate. Someone like Donald Trump would be perfect
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>>130235729
OC coming through
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>>130235729
>What the FUCK!!!!!!!!!! AMERICANS actually ALLOW this in their society!!!!!!!!!!!!
Explain how is it any different here in leafland? I live in rural Ontario, make 65k/yr. Between the skyrocketing price of gas, natural gas, and electricity I'm fed up. I live 20 km from the nearest municipality but somehow I have to pay their jewish property tax rate, even though no sewer or water service and I plow my own road. I built a heated 3 car garage last year and had to have 6 different inspectors monitor every step I made for ridiculous permit fees and delays. Also the county appropriated a parcel of my land to build a new electrical substation and gave me jack shit for compensation. The icing on the cake is some faggot from the county noticed I have 5 dogs (3 hunting hounds and 2 comfy dogs) and ratted me out, now I have to pay 350 bucks + 20$/per dog to have them. This is the tip of the ice(((berg))) of the nickel&dimming the fucking government is doing these days, I probably could go on for 10 pages of shit.
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>>130240251
KYS
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>>130238207
Hell yeah, I remember some kids I went to school with on the day of our HS graduation. They were normal, happy kids. Now they're bitter hipster faggots who whine and complain about everything. You want oppression? Enjoy your factory job.
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>>130238126
So, that's a yes
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>>130235729
Fuck off commie! Here's your welfare (you) and a sage.
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>>130240501
Holy shit you are so wrong. Building quality has gone up a shit ton. Very very few unmodified houses built in the early 80's stand up to modern building standards.
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>>130241443
So basically head cashier, congratz on your ged
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>>130238435
People aren't obligated to do anything.
If you choose not do do what someone will pay you for then you will starve
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>>130243322
>trump
>understanding monetary policy
He keeps changing his opinion and won't address real issues
>muh rates
http://www.investopedia.com/news/president-trumps-many-stances-monetary-policy/
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>>130237836
Trade school is for stupid faggots too dumb for college or the military!
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>>130243762
>family income
Household size has gone down considerably over the last few decades. This graph is meaningless until they account for that fact.
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>>130243683

>rich people own business
>business pay a salary to people
>tax the rich
>rich has to lower salaries or stop employing new people
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>>130240078
>Dont you understand that the doller will inflate more if you increase minimum wage?
You shouldn't be completely afraid of inflation. If the goal is to decrease unemployment, temporary inflation is fine. Of course, doing this means taxes will go up, consumer spending goes down, and aggregate demand goes down, fixing that inflationary gap.
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Because big corporations who like low wages, because immigration increases unemployment and increases the competitiveness for jobs lowering wages, because HR departments these days aren't qualified in the fields they're hiring for and thus hire based on image than merit, because Marxists are actually luddites and all those quotas in STEM is literally about lowering standards for people who want cushy tech jobs but aren't willing to study hard for it, because women earn more and have preferential treatment for jobs doubling the competitiveness lowering wages more and making these women unhappy because they're earning more than all the men their own age and refuse to date anyone earning less because feminism told them they're worth it.

Look, it's Marxism.

It's just Marxism. Marxism doesn't like progression unless it's higher lower class earnings and higher rich people taxes. If you play democracy 3 and implement the tech schools thing, you'll notice socialists hate it. Socialists are actually Keynesian, to them technology means fewer workers are needed and the few left are intellectual elite. They'd rather excavate with teaspoons than machinery. Everything about this makes socialists on edge, they'd prefer we stuck to early industrial technology which is just horrible enough for them to provoke some real negative feelings to prey on. The only people they're really reaching in our society are people who think computers are too hard and chose soft science instead.

Marxists basically see advancement of Marxism as more important than the goals of Marxism itself, improvement of the conditions of the impoverished which is much easier with high technology, even if this same high technology makes equality of outcome impossible.

And why? Because socialism is a pretty name that appeals to people who accept emotional arguments rather than rational ones. These are the people that our society needs to be designed to breed out, collectivism is cancer.
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>>130235729
wow holy shit guys its almost like a certain group of people (that shall not be named) have oversatured the uneducated job markets, and liberals still dont realize a community college degree in sociology wont actually get them a cushy 100k job
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>>130244054
whatever, it wouldn't be much different. if you want to prove it just go to https://fred.stlouisfed.org/ and graph it yourself.

>>130244118
taxes are wage cuts, yep. you don't need taxes in the keynesian model but they're used to only encourage and discourage certain behaviors deemed good or bad by the policy makers. aka kikes taxing the shit out of whites.
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>>130235729
>Rent goes up
>QUICK BRING IN MORE IMMIGRANTS
>Rent goes up again
>QUICK BRING IN MORE IMMIGRANTS
>Rent goes up again
>QUICK BRING IN MORE IMMIGRANTS WAIT WHY ARE MY WAGES DEPRESSED HUU HUUU HUUUUUU EVIL REPUBLICANS PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE
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>>130235729
$10/hr is pretty much starting pay anywhere you go. I'm making $15/hr (roughly, it's actually salaried) with no degree, less than five years work history and only a year of experience related to my current job.
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>>130235729
>my kids have college degrees and are making only $10 an hour
What are their degrees in?
and
What jobs do they have?
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>>130235948
POOR PEOPLE SHOULD BE GROUND INTO MEAT, FED TO THE SICK, RETARDED AND THEIR DOGS.
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>>130243280
Absolutely. The minimum wage was origionaly a union tactic to keep young guys out of the workforce. It does nothing other then make the first step on the ladder harder to reach. You have to either produce more then the min wage for an employer, work for free or be unemployed
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>>130235729
Refugees welcome, borders are only lines on the map, no human is illegal, they are only looking for better life etc.

Eat shit. Eat all of the shit you made, and choke on it.
By the way, there is migration into my country, do you know what are companies forced to do? Increase the wages. Shocking how that works, leftist trash.
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>>130237628
>and raise the population, driving up housing costs, and driving up tax rates to pay for the increased burden of debt required to build the infrastructure & institutions to support them

Run away immigration policy is ruining this country.
I hold nothing against the people who come here.
I hold everything against the people who brought them here.
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>>130244118
>>130244543
>all business taxes are wage cuts
Jesus Christ, I usually say libertarians could at least pass econ 101 but holy shit you guys couldn't even do that.
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>>130235729

If you put 2 kids through college and the both make $10 an hour the parents put zero effort in helping their kids plan their future.

I doubt this is real anyway.
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>>130239530
I didn't allow it.

The retards father and his predecessor laid the foundation of our demise.
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>college degrees
>$10/hr
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT? i'm a college dropout who works in a fucking pillow factory and i make $15/hr + christmas bonus. FUCKING LOL.
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>>130244456
In this world, a real engineering degree from an internationally recognised university isn't even enough. You're still a fucking white male.

The wages thing is deliberate as is isolating the unemployment crisis to white men, specifically skilled white men. It's all about lowering standards to justify lower wages and to increase employment, because unemployment is bad unless it's white men who totally don't need to advance in life because they're white men (oh, and Marxists would claim it's totally too easy for them anyway, as if they're totally in a position to judge how easy it is for white men).

>>130244649
Not him, but I have a high GPA in an engineering degree, I'm one of the youngest obviously decent engineers in my field and I'm obviously decent due to some very popular online projects.

It can still take me years to find a job and I've never had consistent job interview feedback, before it's said, I've been told I was nervous and lacked confidence as much as I've been told I'm arrogant and talked about myself too much. I came to the realisation that if the HR woman interviewing you doesn't like you, she'll say anything to reject you. She'll even not interview you, say she did and then on the phone literally yell repeatedly that no one knows anything and then randomly. You think I'm fucking kidding? It was a hospital that did that to me.

Keeping me out of employment is the agenda, if I'm employed
>standards are raised, as PC means I have to be considered average
>wages are put into question as they do not reflect the standards
>more stereotypes might be opposed, since about half of white male STEM are actually as good if not better than me (mostly video game nerds who gained their initial experience scripting those games, which actually helps)
So the Marxist has one tactic when it comes to employment:
>do not hire the white man under any circumstances

This is why Marxists shall be physically removed.
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>>130243975
>factory job
>trade shcool

????
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>>130235729
Because they have no penis.
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>>130241225
Arlington here. Where are you at? I'm in ballston
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>>130235729
Translation.
>I live in the hottest richest spot in the country with millions of people and am complaining about my rent being high when if I drive a mile or two to the poor crime ridden side of town the rent is $160.

Its like San Fran fags complaining about muh price tag while knowing there is a cheaper option right around the corner.
They just want to live in the hot spot and complain when they dont have money.

>Walk around with a $900 phone.
>$300 headphones.
>$200 shoes.
>$150 designer jeans.
>$100 Designer shirt.
>$200 designer coat.
>WHY DONT I HAVE ANY MONEY!
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>>130245631
If you do not have leadership/self employment skills, you will not be successful as a tradie. Likewise in STEM but less so.

Large corporations aren't coughing up money, that's yet another issue. Marxists promote corporate/big businesses for two reasons, firstly there's fewer for them to monitor and when it comes to nationalisation (or "seizing capital") there's fewer to take. Secondly, by promoting big business they inflame the real problems of early stage centralised capitalism (authoritarian capitalism) and believe doing so would persuade more people to Marxism, by promoting small business you'll increase job opportunities, raise wages, raise employment, increase standards and capitalism would have far fewer problems, in fact the decentralised nature of small business capitalism might even lead to syndicalism or agreements across industries. This kills the Marxism itself.
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>>130244543
The other problem is that housing sizes have gone up considerably as well. I can't find any data on price/sqft on that site. You also have to account for construction quality standards which have gone up considerably as well. Then you have to account for real estate value which will naturally go up as a nation gets more populated and concentrated.
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>>130245367
I think you overestimate most boomers and Gen X parents. The generations previous to millennials rode a "free-ride" wave of economical stability, while also bloating up the government with retard-tier laws and cheering on stupid as shit like tyrannical worker unions, medical "prosperity" and "peace of mind" in the form of massive fees, and outright killed the future of clean, cheap, utilities in the name of "environmentalism" and other such stupidity.

Having gotten such an easy ride, they raised their kids as if the entire world would provide for them, not that the kids would need to learn how to do well themselves.
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>>130243722
The only thing which has really improved is the electrical code and we use more insulation now.

We also use shittier materials and don't 'over build' anymore, half the appliances in a new house will be bad before their warranty expires.
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>>130235729
>Jackie B.H., Storm is Coming Member
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>>130240777
Correlation does not imply causation, by which I mean, the Fed didn't necissarily cause the dollar to be worth less. I hypothesize that instead it is creeping regulation over that time period that increased prices, leading to a devaluation of the dollar.
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>>130244890
>>>130243280
>Absolutely. The minimum wage was origionaly a union tactic to keep young guys out of the workforce.
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>>130246303
Improving the electrical code is a pretty significant thing considering that improper wiring will cause your house to burn down; something that is extremely rare with newer houses.
Appliances breaking is mostly a result of adding lots of silly bells and whistles that easily break.
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>>130235729
Supply and demand niggers. Increase the number of workers artificially every year and you'll never have any type of balance in the labor market. The buyers of labor will always have someone trying to undersell the natives forever and ever. Then consider that the number of houses must constantly increase to provide new shelter but the country doesn't increase in size and government puts more regulations on building so it becomes more expensive and difficult to do. What happens? Sellers market! And it never quite stops because the buyers never stop coming but the sellers are limited by resources and government regulation. And that's how you turn everyone into a literal wageslave.
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>>130246252
You're a gen x.

Millennials come in two styles based on their politics, the internet polarised them like that. They're either "right wing" (more appropriately right of center libertarianism that isn't completely right wing) or they're "left wing" (more appropriately authoritarian of center and far left wing).

The former have STEM degrees or something else they believe has value to society, see it as a market and thus know the degree they pick has a real impact on their employment. The latter see education as "self improvement" and any motivation to self success or profit as increasingly immoral the closer they are to being a white man, because white men are too rich.

A right wing millennial is very motivated to not be anti intellectual or post modernist, it offends them. To them, the left wing millennial is rejecting everything that made the west great for purely emotional reasoning.

Pretending all millennials are the left wing, tumblr, instagram, Facebook types is a mainstream media plot designed to lower confidence in millennials especially their work ethic. It's also designed to pretend right wing millennials don't exist, who scare the shit out of luddite gen x who are still working because these millennials actually use the internet for self improvement. A gen x can't beat some young guy who watches all the videos on 2017 technology in the field. Gen x is too "busy."

>>130246465
It started with blacks.

It was meant to prioritise white teenagers over blacks in general. If you want to convince people, tell them the minimum wage is racist.
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>>130246465
In 1925...A Harvard professor of that era referred approvingly to Australia’s minimum wage law as a means to “protect the white Australian’s standard of living from the invidious competition...
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>>130240588
What do you mean? 1k in local units is cheap pretty much everywhere in the world, even whether one local unit is worth US$3, or US$0.8 but has 1/3rd the purchasing power.
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>>130243866
That's cute but Trump knows much more about economics than anyone here
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>>130247390
In South Africa during the era of apartheid, white labor unions urged that a minimum-wage law be applied, to keep black workers from taking jobs away from white unionized workers
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>>130235729

well at least you can live relatively comfortably on far less than in 1983, IF you don't blow what you have on drugs and alcohol like my generation tends to do
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>>130243429

Gotta pay for that healthcare somehow...
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>>130241049
you koala buggering faggot

USA is way way beyond you in wealth despite demcorats and illegals

your country would be liek a barn shed in usa

now go suck more kangaroo cock
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>>130247390
If you want to make it impossible for immigrants to live in your country, you need high immigration, high sales tax, universal basic income and tarrifs.

The cost of living would be so great you'll even get people living in family communes till they're 40 just so they can afford food that's not bread and rice.

You think an immigrant could move to such a country?

If what you actually want is higher low class earnings/savings, you'll remove sales tax, increase progressive income tax and use negative income instead of universal basic income, it's a subtle difference but negative income is literally just subsidised workers (and Australia has something similar that's way too underused because the unemployed can't set this up themselves or are even meant to know about it).

If every day things are cheaper and there's no inflationary effects, poverty would be diminished. If you give 20 cents to a homeless person, he'll have to wait for 10 people like you to get a cheeseburger. Without sales tax, the burger is 20% cheaper and he only waits for 7-8 people. It's a small difference but could mean the difference between eating and not eating for him.

>>130247640
It just seems like that.

My ideas are "bad ideas©" only because people liked sales tax and are worried about being too noticeable about taxing the rich. The rich don't want to actually be benevolent and pay high capital gains or get heavy fines for carbon emissions and pollution, which are taxes that only effect the rich, they instead want to use this money to fund left wing media and become super deligates to ensure only rich people friendly politicians like Clinton instead of Bernie get nominated.

Where were you when you realised the democrat party is the party of the rich racist?
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>>130247640
He isn't an economist, he knows nothing about economics at all, he's a first rate moron, voted in by other morons, because morons like morons like themselves.
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>>130248860

t. mohamed mohammadeen
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>>130235729
In n' out pays 13/hr. How do you only make $10 with a degree? By being an emo douche.

I pay $25 an hour For general office workers but I keep firing the fuckers because they are lazy-living-with-mom fucks with no motivation. "Couldn't show up on time... cuz it was a rough night... my friend... sad... no coffee..."
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>>130235729
>thinks this happens only in the USA.
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>>130235729

Eh? In 1983 the minimum wage was like 3-4 bucks.
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>>130243724
what is this (((gold))) standard I keep reading about?
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>>130235729

Shit, I remember my sister was making $4 an hour in the 90's, $10/hour for 1983 sounds pretty fucking swell.
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>>130235729
Arent housing prices and housing scarcity artificial created by the government?

Is it really hard for companies to build more houses or cheap houses?
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>>130235948
>i dont understand basic economics

Definitely from around here.
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>>130244821
I do not disagree with you
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>>130243785
Classical liberalism was a mistake.
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There's not a single economic problem that couldn't be solved by the market. Unfortunately the government hasn't allowed the market to exist for over a century.
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>>130250455
its really hard to find apprentices etc to build a house in a college run economy thats why houses are so expensive even the poorest kids wont work construction or become an apprentice cause it doesn't pay well or your boss treats you like shit
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>>130239899
>billion
you want everyone to live in poverty? we need at least a quadrillion an hour
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>>13025026
And you call yourself an INDIAN!
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>>130235729
>earning your monthly rent in 2 working days

Damn, that is some decent buying power tee bee ach.
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This is what happens when you let women work. When you have twice as many people in the work force, you cut demand in half.
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>>130235729

Hey everyone, you know what the secret is to finding a good paying job?

> Lie....lie your fucking tits off about your work history, to the point of making up fake companies that you worked for or no longer exist
> Don't lie about the things you can get popped easily for (using existing companies you never worked at or college degrees)
> Find something you know is easy or that you've done for a fun/hobby that you KNOW something about, or at least enough to do for a job,
> Use people for references that you can trust to say whatever you tell them to, that won't fuck it up when called
> Make you resume look professional, and BELIEVABLE...and get what you lied about MEMORIZED
> Remember, APPEARANCE and CONFIDENCE IS EVERYTHING at the interview....even if you are bullshitting, people are more apt to believe you if you come across as confident and sure of yourself and your abilities
> Don't have a felony or be charged for theft

If you stick to the above, you'll be shocked at how fast you'll have a decent paying job doing something you like.


With no college necessary at that.
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>>130243613
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>>130246366
It could be a number of things, including corporate greed. If every major company chooses to continue to raise their prices while paying their employees the same, there isn't much you can do when that's the way the entire system is being played.

Nevertheless, the woman in OP's photo is still correct.
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>>130235729
I agree. You can thank Jews. Also, Jews are behind raising minimum wage. They want to destroy our economy.
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>>130251827
Not to mention adding in millions of spics and H1B hires because they are "desperately needed" to prop up the US economy
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>>130250455
50% of a house is material cost, 50% is labour (or there about). The price of a house is a function of what the local economy can support for rent, what the replacement cost would be, what the interest rates are, and what the inflation rate is. If government makes land scarce it'll drive land costs up, which would increase property prices
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>>130241443

What was your cousins degree in if the best he can do is minimum wage?
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>>130252709
Woman studies.
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>>130235729
Maybe things would be cheaper if we kept all our money to make the economy grow instead of essentially burning money by sending shit to Africa as (((foreign aid)))
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>>130253178
Or niggers
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>>130244890
There is a lower minimum wage for people under between sixteen and eighteen, you should have started working then for some experience that would make hiring you worth it later. That, or volunteer.
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>>130253612
That too
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>>130253707
Right this policy confirms that the minimum wage is a barrier to entry of the workforce.
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>>130235729
It's to pay for all the freeloading negroes and mexicans Jackie
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>>130251827
Women have ALWAYS been in the work force, bar maids, maids, seamtress, tea-picking -- it's just that now, there are more work with both women and men in the same place.

The problem is immigration. I'm an immigrant and so is my parents, and we all agree that there is too much immigration, especially of people who have more than two children when they couldn't even afford to support one independently.

My maternal grandmother was a housewife, but she also did maid work for richer families. My maternal grandfather's mother did freelance work on other farms, especially during the second Sino-Japanese war, when many farmers were too chicken to tend to their crops because of the bombings.
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>>130235729
Three cream rises to the top. Your kids are stupid.
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>>130239049

Make this a banner.
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Both my prents are making less than they were 20 years ago, so I know how real this is and its scary. Its not entirely their own choices either. My dad got illegally fired from his $70k (mid 90s) job, and had to start over with his own business making $35k now (he sued them and won, but the winnings were a pittence). My mom was making $13/hr for a grocery union, but her job was jerking her around and she was basically forced to quit. Now she makes $10/hr im retail because no one will hire a women in her 50s who knows nothing about computers. Wages are depressed.
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>>130235729
Maybe because most degrees aren't worth the paper they are printed on
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>>130243280
are you trying to hurt yourself?
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>>130239905

1800? Buy... Why wouldn't you buy...
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>>130235729
Her kids are morons. I have a high school diploma and make $25 per hour at age 28 in AZ (low cost of living)
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>>130240078
>Dont you understand that the doller will inflate more if you increase minimum wage?
And that's a GOOD thing. You live in a country with a massive debt problems and huge gaps between the poor and the ultra-rich, you NEED controled inflation to reduce both of those things. Inflation isn't a bad thing if salaries goes up with it.
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Inflation and Mexicans
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>>130258871
What the fuck are you going on about, Jaque? Inflation robs people of their purchasing power. I want none of it
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>>130258413
amen
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>>130246039
Absolutely this
>>130245797
>FULLONCOMMUNISM
This is your first warning; there will be no tolerance for ableism, misgendering, genital preference and any phobia of sexuality/creed/race.
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>>130235729
Why are you living in places where a bedroom costs 1k a month? Most places in the US outside of the city or rich suburbs you can get a one bedroom for 500 a month easily. With roommates you can drop that down into the 300s even in a nice area..

Most college degrees are wastes of money unless you're in engineering, business, medical or law. Fall for the useless college degree meme and you'll end up with no job big surprise.
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>>130259465
don't even put engineerding next to business, medical, and law nonchalantly like that when there's a 200K difference beween their salaries.
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>>130259655
fuck off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckom3gf57Yw
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>>130259204
Good goy.

Most people in the US have a personnal debt. If there is inflation, the value of their debt doesn't change, meaning it's actually goes down since the money is worth less. That's a great deal for debtors, including the country debt.

Also, the cause of this inflation would be raising salaries, meaning the purchasing power would NOT go down and would, at worst, stay the same even if it's 1:1 inflation which never happens.

No, the real problem with inflation is for people with massive savings, huge fortunes and people who pretty much doesn't really need help. Only exceptions would be retired people on fixed income but it doesn't make sense to raise minimal wage without raising it too.

"modern" economic schools managed to brainwash everyone into thinking inflation is bad, it only "robs" the rich actually (and 99% of the people, including you, are NOT rich)
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>>130251842
Feels bad when people always praise honesty and shit when it actually dooms you to be a forever poor no jobs neet cuck.
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>>130259844
eternal spainyard
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>>130235729

That's because nobody fuckin' cares since you're full of shit, leaf.

Today I pay $1,800 a month in rent, but I make $75 an hour as my base salary. (Quarterly performance bonuses and stock grants add more) I have a college degree, but it's in something useful, not underwater basket weaving or feminist intersectional marxist transfuckery.
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Kids, don't do avocado-toast or you might end up as that girl.
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>>130259844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK95lWHl7js
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If you make ten bucks an hour with a college degree, kill yourself.
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>>130259970
>wow anon, I h-have a mere h-humble CDL Class A license with three endoresments.
W-What do you d-do anon?
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>>130235729
Quit living in a city. Where I live you can make $15 an hour with only a high school degree and taxes is around $150 a year on a 40k home.
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>>130235729
Wars cost money, so does petting the rich. We got 13 euro insurance per month for full coverage in 2000, now it's 30 euro for 90% coverage. Apartments were also 15 times less expensive. This world doesn't needs bosses and rich people, they are the cancer, not everybody, but 99% of them need to be killed, especially those with foreigner ties and even more so those with ties to USA.
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>>130235729
Inflations at .5 percent goy Your rent increases aren't true.
The rothschilds aren't about to enter the US market with a new cryptocurrency after the dolalar collapses.
>It's a ll a eil gooy

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-rothschild-libel-why-has-it-taken-200-years-for-an-anti-semitic-slur-that-emerged-from-the-10216101.html
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>>130260605

https://archive.is/oXD1j
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>>130259797
You're assuming that employers will raise salaries. Most never will unless they absolutely have to.
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>>130260624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEkXyEIu3OU
fuck you dude
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>>130240078
But bro
$30/h is more than $15/h

I dont see whats wrong with it
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>>130260706
That's the concept of MINIMAL WAGE, enforced by the law.

As for the people already higher than the new minimal wage, it's to negociate with employers. Unions are made for that, it's your problems if you're a cuck who banish them because you don't want to upset the "job creators".
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>>130260936
faggots.
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>>130235853
>Not because forcing women into jobs they don't belong in doubles the workforce immediately which drives down wages
>Not because forcing "minorities" into jobs they don't belong in doubles the workforce immediately which drives down wages
>implying when women can make their own money there isn't any reason for them to have a man and family and are much more likely to live on their own which means there needs to be twice as many houses, but because of the finite space it drives the cost up
>implying the massive influx of "minorities" don't also need somewhere to live which means there needs to be even more houses, but because of the finite space it drives the cost up even more again
>implying the blame doesn't like solely at (((their))) door and that of (((capitalism)))

I wish I was as redpilled as you. Even the fact you say "because of quality" makes me question if you're even 18. Do you think Windows 95 was a piece of shit (for the time) purely because it's garbage by today's standards? Never post on this fucking board again.
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>>130235729
>College degree
>$10 an hour
Just fucking enlist in the army or navy at that point. All you need to qualify for OCS is a college degree and like a 2.0 GPA.
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>>130261030
Yeah I'm a faggot because I realise employers have a huge bargaining advantage toward employes and the later need unions to not be fuck in the ass.
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>>130235729
In this thread you'll see why the American right always collapses. Unlike most right wing parties of the world, the free market is so intertwined in their ideology that they can never address the increase in cost of living.
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Ok so to the people just responding with muh economics, what is your solution? Everything is rising and wages are staying the same. What is your solution? I myself propose a Final Solution if you know what I mean but since we can't kick Kikes out of the USA without muh Constitution, what is the solution to this?
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>>130235729
I love how the boomers never blame themselves for creating the situation and just constantly double down on the very things that led to it.
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>>130242138
There always has to be a central bank, question is only if that bank is accessible from outside of country, since then they can hide and steal money. When you create debt you don't borrow from your own bank that has a debt, that would be illogical.
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>>130261502
You should start by exterminating all niggers or at least sending them back to africa.
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>>130261223
yeas you are a faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOr6vrIF4D8
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>>130261868
Cute but again ,we need real solutions not fantasies.
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>>130261502
Taxing churches is one solution.
Raising income tax to what it was before Nixon is another solution.
Lowering salaries of bosses to the level of common workers is another solution.
Not being dependent on investors is another solution aka nationalizing the industry.
Ban any kind of donations or lobbying is another solution.
You see there are many solution to fixing the debt completely.
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>>130235729
>oversaturation of college degrees, making them simultaneously required and individually useless
>massive debt from highschool into universities
>trade schools teach nothing but medical and cover-all """business""" classes
>illegals working trades under the table in groups
>outsourcing most """lesser""" forms of labor and fields
>higher requirements to even get a first job in any given field unless nepotism
>inflation over last 30 years becoming noticeably worse
>"kids today are just lazy" diversion tactic

It's hard to tell who is and isn't speaking meme right now but the leaf pic is right. US job market for new generation is fucked. It's exponentially more becoming who you know, regardless of what you know. Then if you can't suck enough dick then you learn things and cruise by.
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>>130261982
People really ought to start embracing violence, if you really believe it's possible to just unfuck everything in a nice and peaceful manner you're delusional.
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>>130262205
And above all,we must remove illegals. They cost us so much damn money. Those are some ok solutions friend.
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>>130262301
ur A gay
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Looks like it's time to End the Fed and shrink the federal government.
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>>130262301
Illegals don't pay tax, that's a big problem, since no matter how good they work, government can't cover anything with their work.
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>>130262205
die in a fire fagot.
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>>130248493
>If you want to make it impossible for immigrants to live in your country, you need high immigration
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>>130235729
supply and demand. if there weren't so many shitskins needing housing, then the landlords might not have their way with the rent.
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>everyone goes to college
>the degree saturates

Who woulda thunk
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>>130262883
Accident. Sorry kek. Sincere apologies. I meant high immigration restrictions, specifically and exclusively work. That way there are witnesses to the poverty.
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>>130262638
Data doesn't needs money, so he has less problems, also he doesn't needs to eat, so he has even less problems. Are you ready to Matrix? Nah, you won't become Data, only a battery as things are going.
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>>130262205
all of these solutions sound suspiciously communist, compadre
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>>130235729
>gender study
>complain that the mess you made has screwed over your children
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>>130262941
There is this theory of reducing debt where you would educate a lot of people and they would produce more. Problem here is that they don't get a job in their field and hire illegals.
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>>130237836
I make half that at a factory
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>>130261185
"land of opportunity"

kek
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>>130243429
damn. leaf. your government would drive me to madness.
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>>130263018
Maybe start with your personal debt, before fixing national debt, but you can't, since the prices are too high and prices are too high because of mentioned things. The bigger the debt, higher the prices, the bigger the debt.
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>>130262205
Tithing should be a tax break, prisoners should do manual labor for the state, illegals should also do forced manual labor before deportation, welfare should be inherited debt, affirmative action abolished, and insurance should be completely private sector.
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>>130243722
>Building quality has gone up a shit ton

lol, not at all. Restaurants and outdoor shopping strips are purposely built with a 10 year shelf life these days, tops, before the roof goes to shit and the structure has to be torn down. It's unironically intentional

t. PE
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>>130263267
Insurance is completely private sector in USA. Government just wrote how private sector works, like in any country. Obama doesn't owns insurance companies and even if he did, that would be private ownership, government ownership is also private ownership. You are not the government, neither you make decisions there, if you did then it would be public ownership. Welfare always existed and it's not shortage of welfare money that creates the debt. Country can't go into debt by not having enough money, country goes into debt when the taxes collected aren't enough to cover the things, because they stolen some of that money. Without collected taxes you have no government and no USA, that's what you are doing, which is why your debt is so high. Once you stop monitoring people through government and create lobbyist groups and illegals then you have debt. The only reason government and country USA exists is because of tax payers. When you have deficit then your private owned government by lobbyists goes and sells something, sometimes to their own buddies at treasuries who also run big financial firms or sells to another country, like China. It should be said that it's only 1 trillion of your national 20 trillion debt that owns China.
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>>130262239
>"kids today are just lazy" diversion tactic

They are lazy as fuck, I have a few of them working for me. It's has become so competitive now and yet most aren't willing to go the extra mile to stand out. They've been groomed since kindergarten to think they're mere existence is a blessing to the world, so when you ask them to do the bare minimum, it's like you're asking a king to make a huge sacrifice.
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What's fucking hilarious to me are these retail workers that demand to get paid $15+ an hour. I work for Pepsi, I go store to store and see these types of employees everywhere every day.

There's no fucking way you deserve anything more than $9/hr for stocking shelves. You act like retail is the hardest shit ever when you can't even interact correctly with co-workers without giving a piss poor attitude. GTFO and learn a marketable skill.
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>>130245595

your post is nigh incoherent, wtf is wrong with your brain
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ADJUST FOR INFLATION.
pol needs to learn what "adjust for inflation" is and how we are all getting fucked over as time goes on.

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
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Inflation proves our current monetary system is a pyramid scheme
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>>130238617
just because you said this, im going to start a business offering to take money and mail people '
degrees' from 4chan so they can get better jobs .
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>>130259797
you act like shit is static
wtf do you think happens when the barest sign of inflation looks like it'll hit the dollar on the scale you want?
anyone with money saved in the dollar takes that money OUT of the dollar. this is cap flight, and fucks every communist socialist shit hole before they even start, because you can't force the rich to leave the money, you dumb fuck

ok, so you've begun to inflate the dollar. everyone rich (million in savings) has fled the US

now john doe who's been saving 50k to put towards a down payment on his house is FUCKED

he saved his money, worked for it, and fucking lived a terrible life with one goal.

meanwhile jane doe went into debt and did jack shit with her life


YOU ARE GOING TO REWARD HER?

Let's just say there's no cap flight. Let's boil it fucking down to who, as a country, do you help?

You wanna help the useless degenerate faggot who went into debt? Or you wanna help the guy who saved his money and slaved to get away from debt?

Yeah, fuck you. You don't get to call anyone a goy, you're so fucking phenomenally stupid a nigger could jew you into believing he can summon lighting with science.
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>>130240777

>You can continue to play the contrarian to your own detriment because "muh liberals lol", but it's true.

Fucking /pol/ in a nutshell. Happy to bend over and expose their anuses for corporate cock, but they'll still smile about it because 'kek, fukken libruls tho amirite?'
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>>130263018
Communism is the future of developed world.
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>>130235729
Sleep out side then it's red pilled as fuck. Nobody has to pay anything to live if they choose not to. Fuck jobs and fuck liberal arts degrees. Homelessness is true freedom.
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>>130263687
It's at a higher level than yours, I'm thinking about who's actually effected by stagnant wages and how stagnant wages are implemented, that is through immigration.

Brown women with local citizenship and real degrees aren't having trouble finding work. They are not experiencing an unemployment crisis or any economic crisis. They do not have stagnant wages. They have become privileged.

This was designed by luddite Marxists, the same people who write "don't hire white men in STEM" articles you can fucking Google yourself because they believe lowering standards is egalitarian and start with who they patronisingly feel needs more help and a leg up.

You being a dumb fuck and not getting it is either shit trolling, like, you're pretending to be idiotic? Or just Marxist incredulous shit.
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>>130235729
what shitty degree do you do to get $10 an hour?
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So let me summarize

>You shouldn't go to college
>Don't be surprised if you make minimum wage if you didn't go to collage
>Minimum wage jobs should be for teens to make pocket money
>So the increasing number of household leaders making minimum wage just means they are lazy, even though they'd get more from welfare
>If your parents didn't put you into tradeschool or had union connections to become an apprentice, that's your fault
>If a liberal complains about a burning house, then the house isn't on fire

Thanks for the insight, Americans
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>>130264809
Everybody wants to sell something to you in 'Merica, how is that surprising to you mr. Anarcho-Capitalist? College is also a company that wants to make money. No guarantees, isn't that Anarcho-Capitalism also? You have no guarantees getting a job when you finish college. Le free man. Also, just because you collected 5 times as much money for welfare or anything else than you need, that doesn't means that money will go where it should, it might disappear in private lobbying grounds or go for roads and shit. That's also Anarcho-Capitalism, non-designated money aka dynamic money. So problem isn't that you have something, but that you lacking control of it. Anarchists don't like control.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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