Why can't we be friends?

>leftism
Why?

>>130229944
leftism is just a label that evokes an emotional reaction. What matters is our social views. Our economics are different but we both want to eliminate faggotry and degeneracy.

>>130230074
Semantics aside, what are your economic views?

>>130229811
Communism targets the right problems in the society, but the solutions it gives are perverted and generated from a very naive mind. Also most of the nowadays so called ''communists'' are nothing more than shills spreading their buttcheecks to willingly let Muhammad's and Kike'a cock fuck them without lube, so no, thank you.

>>130229811
No gommies allowed.

>>130229811
Kill yourself bolshevik puppet of the kikes.

>>130230509
Cooperative industries organized under fascist corporations with a head monarch. I'm a Strasserite but I don't hold that against Hitlerites. The past is the past. It was 70 years ago. I want to move forward and unite the left and the right against the global Jewish menace that is plaguing the world before it's too late.

what exactly is the difference between NatBol and NatSoc?

>>130229811
>bolsheviks
>nazi's
>together

(You)

>>130229811
>>130230755

Nazbol is what happens when commies stop ignoring the fact that the (((1%))) is disproportionately jewish.

>>130230710
>>130230712
Why the meme responses though? I'm genuinely extending an olive branch against global Judaism.

>>130229811
Communism is Jewish

Bolshevism is the greatest evil the jew ever created, kill yourselves.

>>130230840
Communism is jewish though, so why the fuck do they care all of a sudden?

>>130230755
Economics. Other than that, that's about it.

>>130229811
As long as you don't do any subversive shit, you're fine.

>>130231045
I assume you subscribe to some form of neomarxism then. why though? none of his economic theories have had any form of success when put into practice.

>>130230732
>Corporations
>unite against the Jewish menace
You're trying to use materialistic means to defeat a spiritual foe. By outcompeting the Jew in the field of economics, you become the Jew.

>>130229811
Because the kikes invented communism you delusional faggot

>>130231238
I just want to remove the kikes from power. I don't care how it's done. The fact is, we need to unite otherwise we're fucked. We need to remove the Jewish influence from the western world before the white race and the west as we know it is destroyed.

>>130229811
We can make a temporary alliance to kill jewry.

>>130230074
what if I told you...
that ancaps couldn't give a shit less about degeneracy so long as its profitable?

the only alliance you nerds will ever form is playing Overwatch on the same team

The Jews can suicide kill us like the Japs and Muslims. Beware...

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>>130231391
But anon, the foe isn't spiritual at all. Jews are as materialistic as you can get. All they care about is advancing their own material ends. We need to defeat them on both a material and spiritual level.
>>130231367
It's not even Marxism. There were many socialist thinkers before and after Marx. Sorel, Proudhon, etc... etc... If anything, Strasserism is far more influenced by Sorel who believed in Markets and hated Jewry.

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>>130231622
I'd agree 100%. You'd be far better off allying with us instead of (((them))).

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communism is jewish and was created to destroy whites

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>>130231629
fuck off kike. even if we have disagreements, our primary goal is to be judenfrei

>>130229811
https://youtu.be/w7f9EGOlrMs

>>130231866
Sorry, meant Proudhon. But it's influenced by Sorel too to an extent.

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>people unironically falling for a leftypol meme ideology to subvert NatSocs
Nah, National Socialism totally isn't a slippery slope, socialism for whites only is fucking based and totally won't escalate into straight up communism.

>>130229811
>implying nazis have friends

>>130230074
leftism is the term (((classic liberals))) meme because they don't want to admit how autistic liberalism in general is

>>130229811
>Why can't we be friends?
You commies ARE the Kikes.

And I'll be the helicopter pilot for both of you. All rides are free.

>>130232067
how can you tell who is a jew in Overwatch?

>>130231866
Of course the Jew is only materialistic, what I'm saying is that the Aryan's way forward is not a materialistic one. The antithesis of Jewish materialism is Aryan spirituality.

>>130232426
>t. spic manlet briefly propped up by cianiggers

>>130231866
then why keep the communist imagery? why not simply be NatSoc? i dont really understand that part.

>>130232287
Gtfo reddit fag.

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>>130232541
ok mr. computer addicted spiritual supreme being lol

>>130232297
That's true and I agree. Left and Right is only an economic line in the end. What matters are spiritual and social values.
>>130232541
True, however my socialism is not one based off of materialism. It's a conservative socialism meant to protect the nation from parasitic and predatory economic forces.

>>130229811
Kill the traitors then sort our economic policies when we are fag free?

k will do.

same with the pagan vs Christian shit.

>>130229811
Because communism is worse than Jews

>>130231866
>the foe isn't spiritual at all
The Jews are very much a spiritual enemy. They bring spiritual decay wherever they go. Denying spirituality is probably the main reason why many NatSocs are so averse to NazBol, since Bolshevism infamously suppressed spirituality during its history. If the difference was purely economic in nature, we'd get along just fine since economics are very malleable within the realm of fascism.

>>130231470
you can blame Jews as much as you want but it doesn't change the reality that most young Westerners (and even a majority of those born after 1960) support degeneracy. Post-modernists are worth combatting but they're only a quarter of the battle.

>>130232632
Two reasons.
1. because there's no Strasserite flag
2. We have our own unique political identity that is somewhat different than NatSoc.

>>130229811
>(((Communism)))
>Supporting nationalism

Top fucking kek. There's only two things (((Commies))) care about, 1. Themselves and 2. Their machine running. See you think that keeping the machine running relies on nationalism because the machine is the nation which can only run by having cogs (or workers). The problem with (((Commies))) though is that they don't care who the cogs are or where they come from as long as they keep the machine running. Which sounds suspiciously similar to how the (((Capitalism))) machine works. I know, it's just pure coincidence.

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>>130232897
>Strasserite flag
pic related, special snowflake. faggit.

>>130232458
because you cant play overwatch in the oven

>>130232976
>flag
>D&C
You're proving my point kike.

>>130229944
>natbol
>leftist
Sweetie, no

>>130232549
>totally missing the point of why people like the Pinochet rule
Pinochet himself was just another run of the mill puppet dictator. He's just very memeable. The main difference between Chile and other similar ruled countries were the Chicago boys. Pinochet gave up some power and let them handle the economy (open up the markets), something pretty uncommon for juntas. That's what made Chile the wealthiest nation in the region. A damn pity that recent socialist policies are destroying everything that was achieved under his rule.

>>130233083
no, the West shovelling money into his ass made his country briefly wealthy, as is the case with all such countries
le free market has nothing to do with it, Thailand had a free market

>>130233076
How would you define the "political spectrum", then, if Bolshevist policies don't make it a leftist ideology?

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Become great my brothers.
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

Diversity is white genocide

>>130232997

So you imply that you yourself are playing in the oven?

>>130229811
>Because communism is worse than Jews
It IS Jews.

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>>130233067
nazifluid snowflake mayo cracker.

>>130229811
Nationalism is a Leftist ideology. The French Revolution came up with it. Nice try communist scum.

>>130232897
Sooo you are a large enough movement that your agenda does not fit under NatSoc, but you're still using (((communist))) symbolism because no one in your "large movement" has created unique symbolism to unite your people?
> there's no Strasserite flag
so make your own flag, and symbols. using the symbols of your enemy isn't a great strategy.

>>130233739
he doesn't have a "movement"
you don't have a "movement"
make your life more interesting :)

>>130233543
no. i was implying that there will be no jews left to play overwatch.

>>130233618
>kike
>namefag
>unironically uses the term cracker
Your true colors are showing through.
>>130233739
We aren't a large movement, we're a tiny movement but we have our own political identity. With that said, most don't consider NazBols to be enemies but ideological brothers. We do however consider international bolsheviks to be enemies because they want to eliminate nation and race. Something that NazBols are opposed to.

>>130233618
>Autistically kvetching this hard.

>>130234294
mayo cracker because you are a pale ugly son of a bitch :)

>>130229811
This only happened in Germany because it was practically a homogeneous society. The United States will never be United. Ever.

>Jews supporting nazis
Top wew. The eternal Khazars subversions know no limits.

>>130229811
It was Stalin that killed the jews, right? Not Communism itself.

I mean, the jews are promoting communism, are they not?

>>130234434
kek
not sure if you're just some faggot with an israel proxy trolling us or if your seriously this retarded.

>>130234600
International Bolshevism is the false ideology of the kike. National Bolshevism is the ideology of the Aryan. Stalin was basically a National Bolshevik.

I mean your both commies so why not?

>>130234798
[this is what \Pol\ actually believes]

>>130234798
isn't Stalin where most of the problems came from? with you know, thought crimes, sentencing civilians to death via gulag, etc.?

>>130229811
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

>>130235045
>Autistic Kvetching.

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>>130235158
i don't know what that word means, just like you don't know much about the soviet union

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>>130235138
Most of the people sent to Gulags were traitors to the nation. Stalin really woke up to the Jewish menace after WWII when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII. That's when the purges against Jews started. He also killed Trotsky who was the ultimate internationalist and subversive Jew.

>>130235435
What does this pic have to do with anything, kike?
That question is rhetorical because the answer is, nothing.

>>130234798
I feel like I have more questions than answers here. How do I get educated in this subject?

What do you mean by ideology of the Aryan? That's natsoc stuff. Why would Hitler and Stalin wage war against one another if they believed in similar things? Makes no sense. As far as I know Stalin was promoting communism hard, and according to you, he was a national bolshevism

Please help me get my mind in check.

>>130235714
>How do I get educated in this subject?
more books
less 4chan

>>130235833
>less 4chan
take your own advice kike

>>130235714
Check out some third positionist intellectuals. Books by Troy Southgate would be a good start. You could also check out some of the videos made by a fascist YouTuber by the name of "cultured thug" he has some good videos on Juche and Strasserism.

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>>130235440
Let me get this straight, you are saying Stalin fell for the communist meme, but then after the war he realized he was just a puppet, a dog, of the jewish overlords. So he rebelled, therefore redeeming himself, against his master and murdered them?

Then why did he continue to spread communism all over the world? Infecting even the US via subversive shit like that bald russian agent said.

Doesn't match that he was a reak human bean, too many proofs that he was a monster.

>>130236080
you specifically need to drastically shorten your daily computer hours, 4chan or not, ASAP :)

>>130235440
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII
>>when lots of Jews started migrating to Soviet Russia after WWII

expert on soviet union

>>130236234
Thanks, do you have books about Marxism and stuff, so I can understand the commies?

>>130236258
Internationalism was just an excuse for him to spread Russian influence. Anyone would spread the predominant ideology within their given nation.
Not to mention, he was killed by Jewish doctors. After Stalin died it was investigated but soon after it was called off and claimed to be a (((fabrication))) by the new "leaders" of the USSR who were controlled by (((them))).

>>130236875
I mean, there's the communist manifesto although a lot of Marx's ideas are shit because he wanted to eliminate nations. Sorel and Proudhon are better alternatives.

>>130236893
>After Stalin died it was investigated but soon after it was called off and claimed to be a (((fabrication))) by the new "leaders" of the USSR who were controlled by (((them))).
I know I can google this but maybe you just know. Around what decade or year did he die? Who was his successor? Sorry for my overall ignorance.

I can understand it as an excuse to spread his influence, but he was spreading Marxism too, or was it that his successors deeds?

>>130237028
Right, I forgot about the manifesto, that's what I will read. You say Sorel and Proudhon but one of those supposedly hated jews, and commies are suppose to love jews. What is their relation with Marxism, or the modern communism that is spreading all over the world? Are they like an antithesis of it but remaining in the communism spectrum or something?

>>130230732
I hate to break it to you, but the Bolshevik inspired communists who attacked Germany on the heels of ww1 were jewish.

>>130236893
>>130235440

and none of this would have happened if he had just been NatSoc in the first place

>>130237540
>I know I can google this but maybe you just know. Around what decade or year did he die?
1953
>Who was his successor?
Khrushchev, who basically destroyed all of Stalin's reforms.
>I can understand it as an excuse to spread his influence, but he was spreading Marxism too, or was it that his successors deeds?
He wanted Socialism with Borders. If you lived in the soviet Union, you had to be pro-Marx to an extent, however, he basically revised everything that Marx stood for. Marx would have hated Stalin for being a nationalist.
>You say Sorel and Proudhon but one of those supposedly hated jews, and commies are suppose to love jews.
Marx was pretty critical of Jews too but his Jewish blood still compelled him to be an internationalist, Sorel and Proudhon were very critical of Jews. Sorel criticized Marx and the Jews heavily in his book "reflections on violence". He was a revolutionary syndicalist that later became a fascist and inspired Mussolini. Proudhon also heavily inspired fascism.
>What is their relation with Marxism
Sorel started out as a Marxian revisionist but later became a national-syndicalist. i.e. a proto-fascist. Proudhon came before Marx and has nothing to do with Marxism while still being a socialist.
>or the modern communism that is spreading all over the world?
The thing is, we're not seeing the spread of communism. We're seeing the spread of liberalism. The modern communists are basically larping liberals. The old communists would have killed faggots and other degenerates because they would have considered their lifestyles bourgeois and decadent.
>Are they like an antithesis of it but remaining in the communism spectrum or something?
Not really the antithesis but more of a different school of thought.

>>130229811
Hope you lubed up, Poland.

>>130237540
I'd also recommend you check out cultured thugs video on Juche. The Norks have done nothing wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBNO2XMHGJ4&t=2s

>>130229811
You ARE a kike, OP.

>>130229811
Nationalism always comes before economics. Say what you will about Nazbol but at least they are nationalists.

>>130230074
but you consider religion faggotry and degeneracy.

>>130239338
NazBols have no problem with religion.

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>>130235440
Anon please wtf

>>130229811
If you faggots were Actually capable of logical thought the number one target of SJWs would have been Jews from the start. You're just useful idiots and will never be able to rise above that.

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>>130229811
pic related

>he thinks leftist economic policies and social policies don't go hand in hand

>>130239051
Yeah, I already added it to my list when you first mentioned Juche.

>>130238886
Thanks for this reply. It really made me think. Stalin barely outlasted the war. I added Sorel's book to my list of books to read too, thanks. I'm already liking Sorel.

>modern commies are liberals
How do we stop them then?

>he basically revised everything that Marx stood
Any easy to understand examples? Just to keep the conversation going. I already feel enlightened and ready to read books.

>>130239389
What makes NatBol different from NatSoc?

>>130234600
>It was Stalin that killed the jews, right?

He did God's work. Killing both (((elite))) and (((hard-working))) usurers is the way to go.

Natsocs kill kikes, but do nothing to "racially right degenerates".
Commies usually kill rich fags, but won't do shit to (((subversive elements))).

Joining those aspects would provide great results.

Fuck the kikes.

>>130235139
t. American mongrel who uses "White" as identity.

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>>130238333
Yeah, the example of Berlin clearly showed what happens when you become natsoc.

Quite larping, burger.

>>130239185
>sir, I am afraid you have cancer
>ohnoes.jpg
>fortunately, it is nationalist cancer
>relief.jpg
>it also gave you AIDS

>>130230509
mine are a socialist utopia without any pakis or niggers or jews and a strong love for your own culture and your country is a state religion.

>>130229811
Both the Nazis and Commies were murderous leftist scum.

>>130239705
>How do we stop them then?
Oppose them on every level, economic, spiritual and social. Also, this is probably the most important thing, improve ourselves physically and mentally, become an ubermensch.
>Any easy to understand examples?
It's been a long time since I've read Sorel but he criticized Marx pretty heavily. Sorry I can't give better examples but I haven't read his book in a while.

>>130239751
Economics.

>>130229811
>Why can't we be friends
Out clashing ideologies would just creat conflict later down the line. Much like the cold war.

fuck both of you desu

>>130231391
Wrong type of corporation, it's not related to business corporations at all

>>130241102
You have murdered more people than both of them combined

>>130241114
>become an ubermensch.
I'm trying ;_;

That's alright. Thanks for all the info. Just to close this conversation down. There is Marxism, Stress something which is what you are, and National Bolshevism.

From the books and youtube videos you have given me, would I have at least a grasp of understanding each of them after I'm done with the books and videos?

>>130241522
>I'm trying ;_;
Me too anon.
>That's alright. Thanks for all the info. Just to close this conversation down. There is Marxism, Stress something which is what you are, and National Bolshevism.
Marxism is international. We are national. That is of the upmost importance.
>From the books and youtube videos you have given me, would I have at least a grasp of understanding each of them after I'm done with the books and videos?
Yes! You are delving into the rabbit hole that much of /pol/ is afraid to delve into.

>>130241520
This.

Communism is a Jewish invention, but honestly, they should be our allies. I am NOT joking here.

I support a Brown-Red alliance against international Jewish-Capitalism

>>130229811
Because you work for the Jews
>And you doit for free

>>130229811
>National Bolshevism

So literally North Korea, and other associated dystopian nightmares?

>>130242086
>You are delving into the rabbit hole that much of /pol/ is afraid to delve into.
I'm reading Adolf's book.

>"Gradually I became an expert in the doctrine of the Marxists and used this knowledge as an instrument to drive home my own firm convictions. I was successful in nearly every case. The great masses can be rescued, but a lot of time and a large share of human patience must be devoted to such work."
>"But a jew can never be rescued from his fixed notions."
If he studied his enemies for over a year, and only strengthened his vision as a result, then I should do the same.

The fact you said multiple socialists also gradually moved towards fascism. Means I won't be brainwashed by any book, and the knowledge I will gather can only help me form my own conviction, much like Adolf did.

Also and more importantly, I kinda wish to understand because I feel I have many intellectual gaps regarding politics. So once again, thanks for having a conversation with me, and guiding me into parts of socialism I did not know anything about.

Communism was funded by zoinists. One people one empire one leader none of that class warfare bs they are not our friends this is psyops

>>130229811
We need a Strasserist flag desu
National Bosheivism either evokes too much of communism or is just an edgy meme retardation combo

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>>130229811
Depends on the kike, asshole. Do I like the Kike, or do I like you?

I don't like you, so I like the Kike!

Perfect: "I like Kike!"

Also: An image of the Finnish Kike.

>>130242086
We're all curious here. We've probably read your stuff and rejected it. If you're a commie you won't understand being curious.

>>130242982
I agree. That's why anti-fascists are retarded. Fascists aren't the enemy, global liberals are. If anything fascists are closer to us ideologically than liberal and ancap scum.
>>130242982
Liberalism is the real threat. Communism, just like fascism are dead ideologies but if we band together, we can defeat the real enemy.
>>130243554
>I'm reading Adolf's book.
Even though I'm a Strasserite, I'll freely admit that Adolf was much better for Germany than what existed before he came along.
>If he studied his enemies for over a year, and only strengthened his vision as a result, then I should do the same.
You should always study your enemies.
>The fact you said multiple socialists also gradually moved towards fascism. Means I won't be brainwashed by any book, and the knowledge I will gather can only help me form my own conviction, much like Adolf did.
Mussolini started out as a socialist. Even if you became a socialist, you would quickly be disgusted by the western progressives that have taken up the torch of socialism. The fact is they aren't real socialists. Hell, fucking fascists are closer to the old socialists than these modern progressive cucks are. When the revolution occurs, we will kill the progressives larping as socialists the same as the lolberts and ancaps. They are all scum to true advocates of the workers.
>Also and more importantly, I kinda wish to understand because I feel I have many intellectual gaps regarding politics. So once again, thanks for having a conversation with me, and guiding me into parts of socialism I did not know anything about.
We aren't all SJW cucks and scumbags. Some of us see modern "progressivism" as decadent and degenerate. This is what the old soviets meant when they called the west "decadent". They were referring to western degeneracy and how it has nothing to do with the workers whatsoever.
>>130245082
Evola is next on my reading list. I don't reject any thinker based on the false left right dichotomy.

>>130234600
When did Stalin kill the Jews? Weren't most of his top bureaucrats Jewish?

>>130245326
You seem alright. Would live in society with you. Not sure how you can consider It viable to completely ignore basic human motivations and incentives though.

>>130229811
Better dead than red.

>>130230732
So where the fuck is the bolshevism?
If you don't believe in the redistribution of wealth and land, you are not a Bolshevik.
What you're describing is literally just a kind of nazism.

>>130249108
>So where the fuck is the bolshevism?
Cooperative industry is a type of socialist industry. It's not international bolshevism though It's national bolshevism.
>If you don't believe in the redistribution of wealth and land, you are not a Bolshevik.
We believe in meritocratic redistribution. The parasitic """""owners"""" will be removed and the actual workers will be given their honest due.
>What you're describing is literally just a kind of nazism.
Socialistic nazism.

>>130240029

You're fucking retarded.
This thread is fucking retarded.
leftypol is fucking retarded.

>>130250037
>socialistic national socialism

>>130250194
*more socialistic.

>>130250309
So if I understand correctly, it's essentially National Socialism with more seizing the means of production.

>>130250037
>Cooperative industry is a type of socialist industry
And Bolshevism is a kind of communism, which is a kind of socialism.
You're in the wrong fucking category, bud.
>We believe in meritocratic redistribution. The parasitic """""owners"""" will be removed and the actual workers will be given their honest due.
Bolsheviks believe in equal redistribution and collective ownership.

You are not a Bolshevik.
You have next to nothing in common with Bolsheviks.

>>130250409
Pretty much.

>>130229811
ew no.
>implying communism wasnt created by the kikes and pushed by basically only kikes around the world
fyi communism aims to destroy nationalism you faggot kike

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>>130229811

>>130229811
Fuck kikes

>AnCap and NatSoc together
Both are right-wing and hate marxism, makes sense.
>Nazbol and NatSoc together
1. Nazbol is a oxymoron, and a meme
2. NatSocs are opposed to marxism
3. Communism was literally made by zionists

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After the Gulf War, almost all mass media outlets in Russia, as well as in the West, injected into the common speak the formula "New World Order," coined by George Bush, and then used by other politicians including Gorbachev and Yeltsin. The New World Order, based on the establishment of a One World Government, as has been candidly admitted by odeologists of the Trilateral Commission and Bildenburg, is not simply a question of politico-economic domination of a certain "occult" ruling clique of international bankers. This "Order" bases itself on the victory on a global scale of a certain special ideology, and so the concept concerns not only instruments of power, but also "ideological revolution," a "coup d'etat" consciousness, "new thinking." Vagueness of formulations, constant secretiveness and cautiousness, deliberate mysteriousness of the mondialists do not allow, until the last moment, to clearly discern the contour of this new ideology, which they decided to impose on the peoples of the world. And only after Iraq, as if following somebody's orders, certain bans were take off and multiple publications appeared, which began to call things by their own names. So, let us try, on the basis of analysis conducted by a group of employees of the editorial board of "Elements," to, in the most general terms, define the basics of the ideology of the New World Order.

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The New World Order represents in itself an eschatological, messianic project, much exceeding in scope other historical forms of planetary utopias - such as the early protestant movement in Europe, the Arab Khalifate, or communist plans for a World Revolution. Perhaps, these utopian projects served as preludes to the final form of mondialism, trials which tested integrational mechanisms, effectiveness of command structures, ideological priorities, methods in tactics, etc. Taking this aside, contemporary mondialism, absorbing the experience of protestantism, eschatological heresies, communist revolutions, and geopolitical cataclysms of distant centuries, has sharpened its final formulations, finally determining what was pragmatic and incidental in previous forms, and what really composed the base tendency of history on the road to New World Order. After an entire sequence of vacillations, ambiguities, pragmatic steps and tactical black-outs, contemporary mondialism has finally formulated its fundamental principles regarding the pressing situation. These principles can be assigned to four levels:

1. Economical: the ideology of the New World Order presupposes a complete and mandatory establishment of the liberal capitalist market system all over the planet, with no regard to cultural and ethnic regions. All socio-economic systems carrying elements of "socialism," "social or national justice," "social protection" must be completely destroyed and turned into societies of "absolutely free market." All past flirtations of mondialism with "socialist" models are coming to a complete halt, and market liberalism is becoming the single economic dominant on the planet, ruled by the World Government.

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2. Geopolitical: the ideology of the New World Order gives unconditional preference to countries comprising geographical and historical West in contrast to countries of the East. Even in the case of a relatively Western location of one country or another, it will always be favoured in comparison with its neighbor to the east. The previously implemented scheme of geopolitical alliance of the West with the East against the Center (for example, capitalist West together with communist Russia against national- socialist Germany) is no longer in use by contemporary mondialism. Geopolitical priority of Western orientation is becoming absolute.

3. Ethnic: the ideology of the New World Order insists on utmost racial, national, ethnic, and cultural intermixing of peoples, giving preference to cosmopolitism of large cities. National and mini-national movements, used earlier by the mondialists in their fight against "greater nationalism" of the imperial type, will be decisively suppressed, as there will be no place left for them in this Order. On all levels, national politics of the World Government will be oriented towards intermixing, cosmopolitism, melting pot, and so forth.

4. Religious: the ideology of the New World Order is preparing the coming into the world of a certain mystical figure, the appearance of which, is supposed to sharply change the religious-ideological scene on the planet. Ideologists of mondialism are themselves convinced that what is meant by this is the coming into the world of Moshiah, the Messiah who will unveil laws of a new religion to humanity and will perform many miracles. The era of pragmatic use of atheist, rationalist, and materialist doctrines by mondialists is over. Now, they are proclaiming the coming of an epoch of "new religiosity."

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This is exactly the picture emerging from an analysis of latest revelations by ideologists of the Tripartite Commission, Bildenburg Club, the American Council on Foreign Relations, and other authors, intellectually servicing international mondialism on very different levels - beginning with "neo- spiritualism" and ending with concrete economical and structural designs of pragmatic technocrats. Careful study of these four levels of the ideology of the World Government is a concern of many serious research projects and works, a part of which, we hope, will appear on the pages of following volumes of "Elements." But we would like to focus on several aspects right now. Firstly, it is important to note that this ideology cannot be qualified as being either "right" or "left." More than that, within it exists an essential and conscious superposition of two layers, relating to polar political realities. The New World Order is radically and rigidly "rightist" on the economic level, as it assumes absolute primacy of private property, completely free markets, and triumph of individualistic appetites in the economic sphere. Simultaneously, the New World Order is radically and rigidly "leftist" on the cultural-political front, since the ideology of cosmopolitism, intermixing, ethical liberalism traditionally belongs in the category of "leftist" political priorities. This combination of the economic "right" with the ideological "left" serves as the conceptual axis of contemporary mondialist strategy, a basis for the design of the coming civilization. This ambiguity is manifested even in the very term "liberalism," which, on the economical level stands for "absolutely free markets," but on the ideological level calls for a "mild ideology of permissiveness." Today, we can justifiably assert that the World Government will base its dictatorship not on some typical model of "totalitarian tyranny," but on principles of "liberalism."

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>>130230074
Your economics are fucking retarded

>>130231622
>most of the pioneers of anarcho capitalism either sympathized with Catholicism or themselves were Tadionalist Catholics. Murrary Rothbard even called the Catholic Church tbe corner stone of western civilization
>some how dont give a shit about degeneracy

Anon lurke moar

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Revealingly, it is in this very case that the terrible eschatological parody called New World Order, will be perfected and completed.

Secondly, the West, standing at the head of geopolitical theories of the New World Order as the hemisphere where the Sun, Sun of History, sets, takes on the role of both a strategic and a cultural model. In the course of the last stage of realization of mondialist projects, natural symbolism must completely concur with geopolitical symbolism, and the complexity of preceding geopolitical bloc construction, manoeuvres, ans political alliances, which mondialists used earlier to reach their goals, now gives way to a crystal clear geopolitical logic, which even a simpleton is able to comprehend. Thirdly, Moshiah, whose coming the far-flung mondialist institutions are supposed to facilitate, is, from the point of view of such diverse religious tendencies as Orthodox Christianity and Islam, clearly and without any doubt associated with the sinister figure of Antichrist. As follows from the very logic of apocalyptic drama, in the course of the last struggle, the clash will occur not between the Sacred and the profane, nor between Religion and atheism, but between Religion and pseudo-religion. That is why Moshiah of the World Government is not simply a "cultural project," new "social myth," or "grotesque utopia," but is something much more serious, real, terrible. It is completely obvious that opponents of mondialism and enemies of the New World Order (staff members of "Elements" count themselves among these) must take on a radically negative position in respect to this ideology. This means that it is necessary to counter the World Government and its plans with an alternative ideology, formulated by negating the doctrine of the New World Order.

The ideology radically opposed to mondialism can also be described on four levels.

>>130230561

I can agree with this. I knew an actual communist. As in he was ex-KGB. Based guy but had a few mental issues. Maybe PTSD or schizophrenia. He didn't regret communism in Russia and actually had nostalgia for the soviet union but he thought the "socialist student groups are faggots. They know nothing."

>>130258295
>pretends to be smart
>believes in complete retardation
This goes to prove, idiots can be convinced of literally anything by someone with a high verbal IQ. They'll even believe the earth is flat

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1. Economical: priority of social justice, social protection, and "communal," national factor in the system of production and distribution.

2. Geopolitical: a clear orientation towards the East and solidarity with the easternmost geopolitical sectors in considering territorial conflicts, and so forth.

3. Ethnic: allegiance to national, ethnic, and racial traditions and traits of peoples and states, with a special preference for "greater nationalism" of the imperial type in contrast to mini-nationalisms with separatist tendencies.

4. Religious: devotion to original and traditional religious forms - most importantly, Orthodox Christianity and Islam, which clearly identify "new religiosity," New World Order, and Moshiah with the most sinister player in the eschatological drama, the Antichrist (Dadjal in Arabic.)

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Anti-mondialist ideological warfare front must also combine in itself elements of "leftist" and "rightist" ideologies, but we must be "rightist" in political terms (in other words, "nationalists," "traditionalists," etc.) and "leftist" in the economical sphere (in other words, supporters of social justice, "socialism," etc.) In fact, this very combination is not just a conventional and arbitrary political program, but a necessary condition in this stage of the struggle. Geopolitical priority of the East makes it incumbent upon us to completely renounce different "anti-asian" biases, at times held by the Russian Right under the influence of a bad and completely untimely example of the European Right. "Anti-asianism" plays only into the hands of the New World Order. And, finally, allegiance to the Church, the teachings of Holy Fathers, Orthodox Christianity is a necessary and most important element of anti- mondialist struggle, since the substance and meaning of this struggle is in choosing True God, the "right side," the "blessed part." And noone will be able to save us from false charm, sin, temptation, death on this terrible journey, except for the Son of God. We must become His host, His army, His servants, and His missionaries. World Government is the last rebellion of the nether world against the Divine. Short will be the instant of their triumph. Eternal will be the joy of those who will join the ranks of "last fighters for Truth and Freedom in God."

The True Judge will "come unexpectedly."

>tfw national capitalist deeply entrenched in the financial institutions, making as much money as I can from the kikes and giving a decent cut of the money to white nationalist groups, pro-gun groups, American nationalist groups, and other groups that benefit us
>tfw far right socially and economically, following the Austrian school of economics
>tfw you see any gibs as inherently degenerate and that even in a homogenous society gibs would just lead to degeneration
>tfw natsoc and natbol would want my head anyway for taking full advantage of capitalism and believing in the benefits of it

>>130229811
If you fucking nazbols are down with ethno-states then maybe we can work together

>>130229811
A flat lie. The Jews would howl with laughter as the Strasserists snivel about antisemitism and halt their necessary extermination.

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>>130229811
You are the kikes. Get bent.

>>130229811
Friends, for now...

>>130250037
> I don't know what bloshevism is: the post

>>130231238
eat a dick

>>130229811
When has nazbol ever been in favour of ethno nationalism or aware on the jq?

>>130229811
Thno or civic?

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>>130232976
>>130233618
lol

>>130230074
Aryan NS and jewish Communism will never be allies

>itt retards who only found out about national bolshevism from the flags

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>>130229811
no thanks, retard.

>>130229811
test