>no confirmed publicized victims >no people seen jumping

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>"extinguishing" fire only after it is completely burnt

Seems legit

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>no footage of fire until whole building is engulfed in flames
I think this was shown at some point on BBC

>not a single photo of charred bodies
some drone pic was posted and the bong was arrested for un-bong-like activities.

UK is pretty third world it seems

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>>130102244
>I think this was shown at some point on BBC
Feel free to post said footage

>some drone pic was posted and the bong was arrested for un-bong-like activities.
And we should believe this why? What is the source?

>>130102549
London certainly is.

>>130102553
so you are saying it was fake? what are you suggesting?

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Hot off the press boys. Shadilay.

KEK HAS SPOKEN 0099566 5 CONNECTS AND FLIPS THE 9 TO 6

>>130099566

you're probably russianvids

sage

>>130103121
SUCK MY DICK FAGGOT NIGGER

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>>130099566
Go back to Infowars and be careful not to fall off the Earth while you walk there.

>>130102553

>Cherry picking two feeds that show activity at different times
>Being a flag fag
>No assertion about what the difference means

>>>/x/

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>>130102906
It's a psyop to divert attention from Islamic terrorist attacks. Nail bombs, trucks of peace, stabbings, and suddenly a house full of middle eastern and african people burns down? Give me a break.

It's a ploy to gain sympathy for the darkskins. Wouldn't surprise me if the perp is suddenly revealed to be a "white supremacist islamophobe" whose real identity is shielded from the public eye.

>>130099566
>no footage of fire until whole building is engulfed in flames

There is the same cladding on some buildings close to my house, it spread very quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZfLDxYBuU

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>>130103956
whats the deal with london happenings and the sun flower

It's a multicultural haven in there! Look at all these different types of minorities who died. I can't even decide who to cry for first

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/14/fatalities-grenfell-tower-fire-confirmed-relatives-desperately/

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>>130099566
day in, day out this twitter account posts the same banal stuff all the time. Until it is time to activate the missing niece. Is she 12? is she 13? who knows!

>>130104031
Still took several minutes for the fire to spread. Seems like plenty of time to get footage. Also, were talking about London here. It's 2017 and you're telling me there's not a single person with a camera phone near the building? The Grenfell tower is completely charred in most footage.

>>130104141
I can imagine the involved parties are sending some kind of covert message through social media. But who really knows what's going on, something is off that's for sure

>>130104477
>@MakeupAna

She's made up alright

>>130104854
obviously the whole building caught fire instantly within 5 seconds, must be some sort of laser weapon that did it

I usually laugh at these memes, but it's really fucked up when this place is 5 minutes away and people you know are dead. Oh well

>>130102244
why does this look like a daylight photo?

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>>130102244
> be me
> live in a condo at the 11th floor

does it make sense to install pic related on the terrace for evacuation?

>>no confirmed publicized victims
>no people seen jumping
>no fire department rescuing people with ladders
>no footage of fire until whole building is engulfed in flames
>not a single photo of charred bodies

Most likely it was mudslimes fucking around and/or actually burning it down on purpose. The authorities are probably just trying to hide what actually happened, lest the populace realize they've been invaded by shitty third world peasants.

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>>130099566
OP is a...

>>130105819
What if it like 9/11 in the sense that if you are above a certain floor you re fucked anyway because the entire floor is on fire

>>130105819
Just get one of those base-jumping chutes and glide to safety in style.

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>>130106660
If there is fire on all 4 sides I see difficult anyone could survive, but fire usually takes time to spread.
And if the descent is 4 feet per second you'd be directly exposed to the flames only for a few seconds, maybe you can survive that.
The manufacturer claims you can use those harnesses up to 100 floors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwO5xHAyjNQ

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>>130099566
the tower fire is full of stories like this.

>ah the parents are gone but the kids somehow ended up in hospitals.

Manchester bombing was full of kids at the hospital that looked fine but were probably all doped up and kept in there for weeks and weeks.

>>130103956

lol wat

its a disaster for the conservatives

>>130105725
Could very well be. You need the right photos to spark the wanted emotional reaction. Maybe they just plain forgot to edit the photo into nighttime before releasing it.

>>130105945
Muslims primarily target whites/Christians.

That building burned like a motherfucker. Don't you people have fire codes over there? It's no great tragedy now but what if there had been white people in there?

>>130108044
>That building burned like a motherfucker.
installing literal kindling all around the 4 walls of the tower probably helped a bit

>>130108646
>installing literal kindling all around the 4 walls of the tower probably helped a bit

why dey do dat?

>>130105819
I'd just get 120ft of rope.

But I'm not a fatass and can climb and descend ropes without equipment.

>>130108922

so the millionaires dont have to look at a 3rd world tower block

now its going to be replaced by a new luxury block owned by some jew or arab so guess it worked in a roundabout way

>>130108922
They refurbished last year using cheapo outisde paneling with little or nor fire retardant properties, so the building would look less like a commie block and fit in more with the newly gentrified surroundings

>>130108922
Literally to make it look prettier from the outside for rich people across the street

They better have those scum councilmen/landlords under lock and key with security, wouldn't at all be surprised if we got one of these in a couple days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitaly_Kaloyev

Ramadan really is my favorite holiday.

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>>130109213
yes...yes.. so it looked prettier......and not setting it up to burn down incredibly quick

>>130107353
>soak clothes, rope in water for 1 minute before climbing
Should protect you fairly well.

>>130105819

fuck yeah dude. get all kinds of shit to save yourself.

>>130104477
its just a typo

Some article said they used the cheapest of 3 types of available panels, and the one they used was not rated as fire retardant. The next step up was fire retardant, and it would have only cost another 5,000 Bong Dollars to opt for that. Since the renovation budget was 10 million Bong Dollars total, seems like a dumb fucking move, or major shenanigans were occurring.

>>130100705
common practice in fires that have engulfed entire structures

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>>130103956
This. "Those poor, poor muslims! I know they've been killing us by the score, but look at the burning building! Aww, Achmed, I can't stay mad at you!"

Also, they were meming hard about the building safety, and the remodeling, and about resident complaints. I expect that 1. The jews who own the building will get a huge fucking payout for a "Newly Renovated" building and 2. The jews will get gov't contracts to build new, safer housing in all white suburban areas and small towns across Britain, just like they did in the US when they tore down the highrise housing projects in Chicago, St Louis, Detroit, etc and spread the gangbanging niggers into every county in the midwest.

>>130109926
Those cheap foam panels are some of the most dangerous shit ever. They are sold as fireproof (they aren't) and act as chimneys and fire passes through them to due missing firebreaks.

Lots of miners died to a similar product.
http://usminedisasters.com/saxsewell/sunshine_view.htm

What is it with incidents like this that makes the crazies come out? What would be the point of staging the fire, OP?
I've also seen people saying the Manchester bombing, Orlando shooting and others were false flags/hoaxes. What would (((their))) motivation be for having a mudslime perpetrator then? Kinda ruins the whole """religion of peace""" narrative they're always spewing. I'd think they would have a "ebil white nazi" shooting "innocent oppressed minorities" to continue their anti-white programming if they were going to do anything.
There WAS a lot of gun control talk in the media after the Orlando thing, is that why people think it was fake? I personally took that as them trying to distract from the fact that the crime was committed by a mudslime. Also I heard a rumor Theresa May said something about increasing internet surveillance because of the recent attacks in the UK? Would they really stage shit just for that? Idk.

The only incident I believe could have possibly been a hoax is Sandy Hook.

>>130110438
Could be just a general overall increase of "disasters" and terrorist events to desensitize people to it.

I remember all the commotion due to the one big shooting every 2-3 years before 2012... now it seems there is something every week.

>>130099566
Why would they false flag something as mundane as an accidental fire? Nothing to gain from it so its not going to be a conspiracy

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>>130099566
Either:
>The government false flagged a fire for some fucking reason
>A bunch of niggers and muslims accidentally burn down a building because they have sub 80 IQ
Not everything is a conspiracy you paranoid fuck

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>>130110438
>What is it with incidents like this that makes the crazies come out

people like you who will just ignore anything presented. You read a couple of articles and that is that.

What makes you think Salman Abedi blew himself up in Manchester? You heard the bomb go off right? What time did it go off?

I think it was hoaxed, fire-drill, empty building
Served numerous purposes

>>130111301
Did you even read the rest of my post?

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>>130111269
then why isnt this guy in custody

>>130110410
this has to be a known problem, apparently the Dubai fire was exacerbated by the same issue. How can any building install these fucking shits in current year?? Also how can any architect not figure out these easily would override the concrete fireblocks already in place?

>>130110438
OP is either retarded or larping as an extreme tin-foiler, possibly both

>>130111509
Because the brits can't legally charge non-whites with crimes

>>130111723
The same reason foam is allowed in mines. Idiots.

The small scale tests run fine. The large installations are just starting to be tested.

>>130111365

Did you actually bother to watch the live stream where you could clearly see people still trapped inside

>>130102553

That whole building is off and it too high for the ladder pipe to reach the top floors. They probably shut it down to hook up another water source or try to boost the pressure or to use that pressure to put into the standpipes to take handlines inside my nigel.

I don't know how faggot british firefighting works but honestly, I'm not sure what call I'd make with that amount of fire in a high rise like that. Safest bet is to evacuate everybody and let that nigga burn. That's an incredible amount of fire, even though the heat is minimal because the whole building is vented, that's a ton of fire to put out with handlines...

>>130112426
Lights flashing? You mean like those time delay settings that have been around since the 1950's?
People moving inside? Bits of movement that could be anything
Chinaman hanging from window -- movies from the 1940s were doing that
So instead, how about you tell me how fire supposedly spread through the entire building when it's still standing because walls, floors, ceilings, were built of very thick concrete. The place was built to withstand the spread of fire. The only wood and non concrete in that building were some stud walls *within* individual apartments
THAT is why notices in each apartment instructed residents to *remain inside their apartment* in the event of fire. Because the apartments were all concrete boxes, in effect each apartment wall, ceiling, floor were fire-walls
Then go on to explain the claim now that the reason sprinklers and other fire-deterrents were not installed
Britain is the original nanny state. It was imposing safety rules a hundred years ago
Do you really believe Britain would allow anyone to occupy a multi level building without fire alarms, smoke detectors and sprinkler systems. If you do, I'm wasting time talking with you

I believe it was staged, was an empty building, was a false flag hoax fire drill

>>130111509
>>130111966

Because people have to be guilty before being put in jail.

The current thought is that there was a fridge malfunction that caused it to explode.

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>>130114898
well I hope they are questioning him. He looks suspicious as hell

>>130115100
Doubt it was intentional.
The crime was the refurbishment job and constant warnings that the local authority ignored.
The outer cladding on the buildings was pretty much flammable and not flame retardant so the flames spread up the outside of the building. It would take many hours to spread if the building wasn't turned into a death trap. The stay put policy in the case of a fire was useless because of this and sadly anyone on the higher levels would not really have a chance.

>>130099566
>British apartments

>>130114250
The fire spread quickly via the outside plastic panelling, which is why one whole side of the building went up in 15-30 minutes. This spread the fire to upper units whose windows were open or whose windows failed to block the fire.

>without fire alarms, smoke detectors and sprinkler systems.
unlike the US, the UK does not require sprinklers in older buildings, nor does it require centralized fire alarm systems. The only fire alarms were the standard household type, and it's possible many of these were too old, or not inspected frequently, or just had worn out batteries.

>>130099566
Are you a fucking idiot?
Seriously?
Please, never reproduce.

>>130111509
pretty sure buildings like that have fire doors. if he had closed his front door it wouldn't have spread as quickly. sounds like he did it on purpose though. how do you have time to pack all your shit before you warn anyone?

>>130111509
>pregnant 41 year old

>>130114898
>fridge malfunction
How the fuck does a fridge explode enough to cause flame?

>>130115651
God Hates Fags,
Allah Hates Fridges

anyone been in a fire before??
>be me
>15/16 years old
>skipping school
>go over my friends apartment
>his apartment is in the basement
>play PS2
>he decides to make french fries
>45 minutes later
>door flies open
>2/3rds of the apartment on fire including the front door
>fucking friend runs towards the fire with a shirt
>thinking myself man we are fucked
>thank god their was a window in his room, you know those windows at bottom of apartment building

I was literally 3 or 5 minutes from being killed, defiantly dead if there was no window in that room.

>>130099566
obviously a false flag to distract people from the fact that the earth is actually flat

>>130105819
>>130106660
its like a dumbwaiter that cooks your food for your you

>>130115651
Coolant is flammable, fridges use electricity.
Have you ever gotten a mini-fridge? It says not to turn them on for an hour after you move them.

>>130104477
It was evidently her birthday you insensitive clod, she was born 14 June 2004 some time after 8:13 AM.

>>130105819
High rise fire escape systems
https://youtu.be/tV1H0C0SX1s

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>>130116525
they probably already kidnapped her and just pretend she is missing due to the fire.

she was one of those people that just kept getting retweeted early on. it is like some psyop tactic. The twitter accounts the comment are always the weird ones.

>>130117412
Chances she will show up later in another crisis?

>>130115815
what game were you playing, though?

>>130099566
/pol/ystyrene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn0TdVTs1x0

From my poor understanding of french, the order is XPS polystyrene, a variant rockwool, some sort of wood chip fill, a variant rockwool. Near the end you'll see what happens once enough melted XPS pools and the flame retardant chemical layers stop working - it basically explodes.

>>130109213
Heard the remodel cost $35m but didn't include 400k for sprinklers?

>2017
>people still believe fire is even real
>being this bluepilled
fire is a jewish psyop

>>130105819
no. in uk some moron would try it out without a fire, hurt himself and then sue the building owner.

>>130114898
You don't have to be guilty to be put in jail. The remand process allows for people to be put in jail while awaiting trial. For a murder charge it is almost always the case that the suspect will be remanded in custody. For up to 100 suspected murders it should be an absolute given.

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>>130117919
I dunno! There were a lot of kids from manchester ariana concert who ended up in the hospital and I always had a feeling it wasn't a normal hospital

>>130105819
what's stopping the people on the 5th floor from grabbing the harness going up past their window?

>>130115335
the building was supposed to be wrapped in insulation (celotex fr 5000: https://www.celotex.co.uk/products/fr5000)
this has a class 0 rating in acordance with BS 476), i.e it should not burn, outside the insulation there is a 50mm air gap then an powder coated aluminium fascia panel.

>all these sandniggers and niggers

Was this some sort of sandnigger hive?

>>130115815
>grandfather and myself landscaping his huge ass property
>he is using a ride on mower to mow 2m high, dry grass in the australian summer
>sets the grass on fire
>yells out to me for help
>rush over there
>deadlift the mower off the fire using the towbar on it
>molten irrigation plastic stuck to it
>set my hands on fire
>watch as the mower rolls down the steep hill he was mowing, setting fires as it does so
>call volunteer firefighting service
>have to stand at the entrance of the property to direct them, with my burnt hands and no running water/first aid

Luckily no plastic stuck to me or I would have been in a lot more trouble. Thinking back, I'm glad we didn't set the fire in a ring around us, we could have been killed.

>>130121203
Sky news just did a lab test on the material used. When exposed to heat of 700 degrees it caught fire and the different layers started to seperate. The fire was over 1000 degrees. Both the material and the way its different components were put together were questionable.

>mostly muslims and blacks died
>only a few whites mostly elderly
Totally worth it.

>>130115547
Ree, why do nog women have so many eggs!!?

>>130121203
So heavy payoffs, graft, kickbacks, and theft involving many entities and individuals all whom prospered.

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>>130102908
>Tfw the flames look like a greentext arrow when flipped sideways

Blaze chan, anyone?

>>130099566

>Globalist actually care about peoples lives and wouldn't set fire to a building full of people for their psyop

We're supposed to believe this why?

>>130105536

God you're so fucking cowardly it's unbelievable

>>130115815
When i was like 17 i lived in an apartment block.
Hear fire alam going off. Some asian girl is home alone after school. She was making something on the stove and it was on fire and burning up her kitchen. I bang on her door and she opens up. She was running around like a tard with her head in the smoke. She's just got trying to open windows. Tell her to calm down and keep her head low out of the smoke. turn on tap. Ask if she has a blanket or a towel or something. She just keeps running with head in smoke and trying to open more windows. I grab a big bowel fill it and poor on fire. Repeat. Fire goes out. Firemen show up. Tell them i put out the fire. They act like they dont give a fuck. They take big fans up to her apartment to blow smoke out. I go back to my apartment to smoke a bong. A day later asian girls mother gives me a bug gift basket to say thanks.

>>130105536
>friends with niggers and mudslimes
Gross. What a fuckong cuck.

>>130122915
>>>
>Anonymous (ID: KMJEdWwq) 06/15/17(Thu)22:38:05 No.130121203 ▶>>130121798 >>130121988
Good thinking anon. Noble

tell me more about the asian schoolgirl...

>>130123239
She was a bit dumb and panicked when shit hit the fan. Probably would have burned down the building if I wasn't home. That's all there is.

>>130099566
>British media have a modicum of respect for people who've died horribly

>US media- charred bodies with melted eyeballs on the 6 oclock news


You retards said this about the Manchester bombing, just because we're not ghouls doesn't mean everything is a false flag

>>130102549
It's London. The rest of UK is alright.
Londonistan is an utter shit. Same as other 'European' capital cities, infested with foreigners.

Must of been the Jews

>>130123499
>allows a group of people that state outright that they demand the deaths of all outsiders
>has respect for the victims of said group
ok

Firefighter here, what do you think we are going to let photographers on scene to document the corpses? I do find it odd there are no videos of jumpers or people throwing kids like they allegedly did, but this isnt a falseflag. There would be no benefit to doing so.

>>130105945

The victims photos are all over the newspapers.

> no firemen with ladders trying to rescue people

Yeah put a ladder up against some flaming polystyrene that's a great idea.

> no pictures of charred bodies

What is it with Americans and wanting to see lots of dead bodies all the time? Would you not feel pretty crap if your dead, mutilated relatives were plastered all over the news for the benefit of some autismo from halfway around the world?

>>130124087
Flaming sheets of highly flammable Fireproof Safety Siding were falling down, maybe people couldnt get close enough to take pics

>>130102553
Uh if you watched the live footage you'd know it wasn't a constant water stream, they shut it off and on and it wasn't doing shit anyway.

>>130123830
Dude not everyone in that tower was a Muslim, quite a few are.... (shock horror) white

on one live stream people said they saw some firefighters were smoking a joint and doing nothing

>>130124420
It's like how Europeans want to see pegging and softcore cucking on television all the time.
The US has some progress to go through before we have nipples and our wives getting trained by Mohammad and Co.
But Europeans are serious pussies when it comes anything violent.
Not surprising though. If you wanted to invade you could just walk into their countries and trod on their sovereignty. Hell, they'd probably welcome you in by the millions and give you their food shelter, wives and daughters.

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They even got a sheep into this psy-op. They torched an empty building.

>>130125059
> you're pussies because you don't publish photos of people who've died horribly

Presumably if your dear old mam got a nailbomb to the face you'd want her rotting corpse on the evening news right?

It's not being pussies, it's being respectful of people who've died. Stop being such a fucking degenerate.

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>>130125382

YEA that mans glossed over combat shock look is totally FAKE

fucking 10/10 crisis actors d000d!

Wtf was

The Building for??????

>>130105819
Why burn to death when you can hang yourself instead?
Good thinking, anon

>>130126212
Shouldn't you be fasting? Get off the computer or the torries will come and take you away for what your cousin did at that concert

where the fuck are all the dead body pics?

>>130099566
this proves 9/11 tee bee aytch