Why don't Christians approve of gay marriage? I mean it

>>130036546
Because faggots are child molesters. If you allow the faggots to marry (which we did) the next step is adoption. Allowing molesters to adopt is a terrible idea. Plus giving an inch on gay rights leads down the bestiality and pedo rights slope, amirite Leafs?

>>130036546
I'm not christian and I don't approve gay marriage.
The definition of marriage was always man and women.
It's a commitment to support each other and start a family.
Children need a mother and a father.

Also sage for slide thread.

>>130036799

I really don't care. Divorce rates are higher than marriage rates anyway.

>>130036546
Don't call it marriage, I could care less if they get government perks are w/e but marriage is Man and Woman and that's it

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Christians fear that which reminds them of themselves.

>>130036799

My boyscout troop was dispanded because the married pastor who ran the group sodomized a half dozen boys. Of course the church protected the man just like they protect the thousands of pedo priests across the globe.

Christians are all a bunch of child rapists.

>>130036799
I doubt that will happen, I mean the age of consent won't change, the science is clear on that also.

>>130036546
Fags are mentally unstable and ought to be euthanized.

>>130036546
>Btw science is clear that homosexuality is present in all animal species, it's not some social construct.
So what? Some animals eat shit, some cannibalize their young, some kill other males to establish a harem of females.

>>130036546
Yeah, christfags are retarded. Marriage and family is a state thing(taxes and other shit), which all taxpaying sitizens should havr access too. On the other hand churches do not pay taxes, so they should be stripped off any rights of average taxpaying citizen. Including cops, firefighters and other government services. Also any citizen that doesnt pay taxes should lose their right to vote on top of that.

>>130037801
Yeah, but when it comes down to sexuality we're very similar to animals.

>>130038334
>Yeah, but when it comes down to eating our own shit we're very similar to animals.

>>130036546
Sex is only ok for reproduction after marriege (based on christian teachings) but gays cant reproduce
>muh animals
Appeal to nature is a fallacy, many animals also rape, and practice necrophilia

>>130038334
Nigga there are animals who rape corpses for pleasure

>>130039246
Okay, so don't have sex if you don't want to reproduce, but let others do what they want, you seriously sound like a dictator.

My argument wasn't about morality of it, it was about homosexuality not being a social construct.

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Gay marriage is a joke. They cannot and should not procreate. They are biological dead ends and marriage, being the foundation for a stable and productive family, should be reserved for those that actually intend to have children and contribute to the survival of their culture and race.

>>130039653
>why dont christians allow gay marriege
Thats what you asked and i answered
>homosexuality isnt a social construct
Why not?

>>130039874
So, a man and a woman who don't want to have children can't marry according to you?

>>130040202
Why should they, theyll divorce after they get bored anyway

>>130036546

>Why don't Christians approve of gay marriage?

I'm shocked at how many do accept it. And the rest have basically turned a blind eye to it, which is all you can really ask of them. Thirty years ago, gay marriage was fucking laughable, not even a pipe dream - it's amazing how much things have changed.

>>130039963
WOW, because it's present in other animals. Unless you don't believe in evolution...

>>130036546
it ansolutely affects us and gods word is against it. a better question is why do fags want to "marry" each other?

>>130040787
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature

>>130040955
Ask them individually. The individual is very important to libertarians, no?

>>130037801
some animals just go aroung eating and shitting in the streets. omg. it finally makes sense. faggots are animals and not people.

>>130040787
Animals don't always consent... Rape should be legal right? It's in nature! Unless you don't believe in evolution...

>>130036546
First off fuck off
secondly bringing up the bakery you shits tried to destroy someones life cause you got asshurt they didnt wanna make a damn cake? , any business or person has the right to refuse service or goods GOT IT?
you facists think you can control everything and everyone and punish those that dont agree and oush others into oblivion
This is a major reason why nobody likes you or the demorats stop being fag nazis

>>130036546
Marriage is for the CHILDREN not for 2 people loving each other. A gay pair can't have children and shouldn't have in most cases.

>>130041048
Dude, you literally can't read. I'm wasn't making a moral argument.

>>130041155
as a libertarian i dont need to ask anyone anything and i dont need to support their degeneracy in any way, certainly not by voting to establish new marriage laws.

>>130036799
Yep, pedophilia is vastly overrepresented amongst homosexuals. Not only that, but the religious, Christian institutions are for people who of a traditional background who practice religiosity and adhere to the faith. Homosexuals are never Christians. Go get a civic partnership and leave everyone else the fuck alone.

>>130037526
the science of... what is clear? lol?

>>130041249
So you literally see no moral difference between rape and homosexual acts? Good to know.

>>130036546
>being a sodomite

Hell is for ever!

>>130041694
Reminds me of a Confederate type of libertarian.
Making news laws to free slaves? No,thanks.

>>130036546
Because of the reductio ad absurdum
>B-but muh slippery slope!
It is a fallacy only if the chain reaction cannot be proved, which is not the case

>>130042137
Well if you're going to say that since animals show Homosexual tendencies why can't we then why can't I pull the same card and say that?

>>130041998
The science of brain development, I mean those numbers like 18 or 21 weren't just pulled out of ass.

why do faggots want to be like animals? should we treat them like animals?

>>130041506
Well if homosexuality is immoral then why should we allow them to marry
Im not saying being gay is a choice here but it shouldnt be considered normal behaviour
Also whats the evolutary purpose of a homosexual

>>130042792
Evolutionary*

>>130036546
Christian concept of evil needs to be opened here a bit. Or perhaps, the Christian concept of good. Christianity believes in the middle ground, that the good is surrounded by evil. Strict heterosexuality in a marriage in all its glory. Nothing more, nothing less. No porn, no gays, no divorces, no adultery, no rape, no emasculation.

>>130042629
I wasn't arguing for morality of homosexuality, I was just saying that homosexuality is present in other animals and that proves that it's not a social construct.
A moral argument is a different one, rape involves force, where homosexuality doesn't. it's a business of two adults and only them.

>>130036546
Homosexuality is present in nature, yes. But so is down syndrome and other genetic illnesses. I doubt it can be "cured" with actually medicine. I doubt it causes problems to society (except to conflict by people who don't approve or gays that pretend it's a revolution and become antifa), being in nature doesn't mean it's normal. Pedos make the same case. Do we let pedos molest kids? I might be making fallacy about pedos and gays but the point stand, if we take your word, why not take the words of pedos?

Vise versa, killing people is abnormal but when it's done in self defense or defense of others in danger, it's acceptable.

I believe in gays liberty to do whatever they want as long as they don't impend taking away someone else freedom like forcing religions to marry gays or forcing business to serve gays.

Fucking let Mormons have their polygamy they want.

>>130036842
Children of gay parents do better in school then straight ones on average, you can still have mother figure and a father figure while having two gay parents.

Maybe they do better because gay parents that have kids (probably adoption or have surrogate mother or sperm donor) are often wealthy or well off and educated.

>>130043409
Human sexuality is largely socially constructed. Hence the sea of porn tags.

>>130042792
I don't believe you can take away fun from people if all people in that party are having fun, jut because your book says it's immoral.
I don't know the evolutionary bases, don't really care. I care only about well being of people.

>>130043409
I never said anything about the morality.

>Present in other animals

Alright so you're saying we should be allowed to be faggots because animals do it the wild so it's nature. Rape also happens in NATURE so with your way of thinking rape should be legal because it happens in nature. If you're going to use this logic you can't pick and choose which parts you want to believe in it's all or nothing.

>>130043567
Well yeah, of course, they should not force religions to marry them.
But you see a difference between a pedophile who want to rape or manipulate little children and two grown men/women having sex? As a anarcho capitalists you really should.

>>130044350
*an anarcho-capitalist.

>>130043803
Oh i am not saying we should gas gays my man, in fact im against it
They should keep to themselves though, no marriege no adoption no pride
Also you were the one who brought up evolution, now you say you dont care?

>>130043803
if you cared about peoples well being, you would argue in favor of a 2000 year old 100 generations strong religious tradition of marriage between a man and a woman. you care about your ego and your ability to rationalize unsustainable lifestyles and philosophies.

>>130036799
BINGO. Two faggots can't raise a child.

>>130043877
Nope, I said homosexuality is not a social construct, that's it. It has nothing to do with morality. In other words, I;m not saying that homosexuality should be legal because of animals.

>>130036546
For the same reason le enlightened types hate flat Earth theory

OP doesn't know science from a hole in the ground. Why do gays usurp religious rituals then pretend they have a right to persecute people for correctly following the teachings of those religious rituals? Gays are the biggest nothingburger of our time.

>>130036799
most child molesters are men married to women and with children, just like Gacy the serial molester-killer

>>130036546
Marriage is a union between God, Man, and Woman. Plain and simple.

>>130045119
Alright I'll rephrase... Rape isn't a social construct because animals rape each other, therefore rape should be legal.

That's what you're saying.

>>130044632
I brought up evolution because I wanted to emphasize that humans are animals or evolved from animals.

If you don't bake my cake for my religious ritual that we designed specifically to mock Christians (and Muslims) I'll sue you. How bout that? Seriously go fuck off. Gays are mentally ill and they want to persecute people who don't worship their mental illness.

Marriage is fundamentally religion thing. It's a commitment between male and female to raise child(ren).
Homosexual couples are allowed, but a marriage between homosexual couples aren't allowed. They can stay as lovers, what's wrong with that?

>>130045435
Wrong. Rape should be illegal because there is no consent, consensual homosexuality should be legal because there is consent. I'm not searching for morals in animal kingdom.

>>130045720
I think I've already answered that earlier.

>>130045453
Ok so what are trying to say here?
Yes homosexuality is natural so?

>>130046217
Oh, some Christians think that homosexuals are just brainwashed people, that's all.

>>130046437
Ok so? Doesnt affect you in any way...

>>130036546
because as a christian we also have to try and not sin. Christ said to the woman taken in a adultery go and sin no more not go be more degenerate. and yes even if the new testament doesn't explicitly state gay marriage, it is a still a sin placed under fornication. you have to realize a lot of the new testament was based on the old testament. christ came to give mercy unto the children of men not take away the responsibility.

>>130046122
Well I'm too lazy to read that. But in my defense, the marriage ceremony is in Christian ritual so it should follow Christian rules that is marriage between male and female.
Assuming they really want that marriage bullshit then just don't do that in Christian ritual. Make a new ritual so they can get married, it's that simple.

>>130036546
becaus it's unholy you heretic.

>>130036799
Great answer lad. Represent the US flag well.

>>130046567
Well I'm straight, so it doesn't affect me, but some Christians act like sjws and think that by not tolerating gays they will "undo" the damage of devil's social engineering.

Homosexuality is a mental disorder. They should be locked up in mental institutions not running around spreading aids to children

>>130036546
>Muh fagness es in animels
So is rape

>>130046437
>Christians thinking people are brainwashed.
Kek

>>130036546
Christians don't approve of it because it's against the bible.

If you want a practical reason someone (Christian or non-Christian) might be against gay marriage, it's because it's artificially pushed everywhere and it's yet another excuse for western people to not breed.

Sage. Fake talking-point.

>>130039452
theres some people who do that so maybe OP has a point. Maybe we need to all start raping corpses

>>130047012
And by shitposting on pol will make them change their opinion?
Also you started with a completely different statement

>>130036546
Why don't Christians approve of gay marriage?
It is Church dogma that procreation is the purpose of marriage.

>>130047211
Yeah, so?

>>130036546
Because it further degenerates our society and makes the general public think that such behavior is okay and should be accepted. It's just another way for the Jew to subvert our traditions

>>130036546
because they dont understand the bibble.

for one, god never states anywhere that sex between men is bad

for that matter neither does he say sex between men and animals is bad either

so the protest of relationships between people and dogs is really retarded to

>>130036546
>Juvenile cancer is present in nature so it's a good thing and we shouldn't fight it

>>130036546
Rape is also present in all animal species. So is murder. And cannibalism is often present. And Matricide..... Just because something is present in the animal kingdom doesn't make it acceptable in human society.

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>>130036546
Christians don't approve simply because they don't approve of Homosexuals.
And they don't approve because the Bible says not to.
I've a slightly different view.

>>130047513
So if a man and a woman can't have children they can't marry?

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>>130047857
Far as I'm concerned Homosexuality is a stupid idea to push as acceptable in a society that actually wants to thrive or survive past 250 years. Yet despite endless repeating cycles things just get worse and worse.

3 cycles of 80 is all we manage because we forget basic concepts.

>>130047595
So if a sexual quality is in animals, does that mean we must follow it too?

>>130038242
Taxing the church wouldn't be separation of church and state which is an idea the country was founded upon

I think you'll all agree there's some damn good lesbian porn out there. Don't tell me I shouldn't be watching it. I like it when there's two women. Men turn me off but, hey, women masturbating also gets some good porn.

>>130041275
(((They))) aren't fascist anon. It's cultural marxism. Read up on it

>>130036546
>Why don't Muslims approve of gay marriage? I mean it doesn't affect you in any way, yet you act very authoritarian, similarly to those gays who didn't get served in bakery.
Btw science is clear that homosexuality is present in all animal species, it's not some social construct.

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>>130036546
>Why don't Christians approve of gay marriage?
Marriage is an institution to raise children. Sperm in anus doesn't create children.
>faggots don't affect society
Yeah, not at all.
>Btw science is clear that homosexuality is present in all animal species, it's not some social construct.
There are also animals who eat their own feces. Faggots do that as well btw.

>>130048054
No, it doesn't mean you have to follow it, but let other consenting gays do their thing.

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>>130047857
Marriage should be a construct designed to provide the ideal space for a Man and Woman to come together to improve their life AND have children.
As soon as you remove the sex differences Marriage weakens.
As soon as you remove the children element Marriage weakens.
As soon as you say Marriage is "ABOUT LOVE" then you destroy it completely, as at that point it means nothing.

So should Gays get married? No.
Their lifestyle doesn't add anything positive to society, it doesn't aid their life in any measurable way and is not a secure environment for Children or even a potential environment for them to be produced.
OP is a shill so I'm really just talking to you guys instead.

Any habit that causes an increase in spread and mutation in diseases, like homosexuality, affects all people.

>>130047877
The inability to produce offspring is not an impediment to marriage. What IS an impediment to marriage is the inability to have vaginal intercourse.

>>130048113
>lesbians in porn
>being actual lesbians
Nope they are being forced because 2 girls sell more than one

>>130048347
Gays can raise children.

I've never said that homosexuality is moral because male animals fuck each other.

>>130036546
seems like you're focused on Christians when it's really mooslums that actually kills gays for existing. Gays want pedo marriage otherwise NAMBLA wouldn't have the wide support it has had in the 'queer community' for 40+ years. We might be more sympathetic to your cause if you had gone after mooslums as much as Christians for daring to hold to traditional beliefs while ignoring the knuckle-dragging mooslums. Nice try faggy retard.

>>130048369
>No, it doesn't mean you have to follow it, but let rapists do their thing
>No, it doesn't mean you have to follow it, but let murderers do their thing

>>130048587
>Gays can raise children.
They are not very good at it.
But if you wanted to know why Christians don't approve of gay """marriage""" you could just read the Bible. I guess bait threads are more fun though.

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA

>>130048519
What if a woman has a disease?

>>130048869
I've read it and nowhere did I find Jesus saying you can use state power to impose his views on others.

>>130036546
Im an atheist and im against fag marriage. Its not a right, its a tradition and a privilege and is strictly defined as a union between man and a woman.
Homosexuality among animals doesn't prove its normality. If you wan't to be on the same level with animals its your choice, some animals eat shit, but i don't see shit eating advocates. You have no right to enforce degenerate and abnormal condition on society.

>>130048970
If the disease causes her to be impotent, she cannot be married by the Church. If marriage was consummated at some point prior to the impotence, the marriage is not rendered null.

>>130049581
Well you have to be strong believer in God's planning if you think that's acceptable, but whatever, I would agree that Churches should stick to their principles and not marry gay men.

>>130049197
>nowhere did I find Jesus saying you can use state power to impose his views on others
You are completely missing the point. Anyone can make their own ceremony where they are getting "married". Secular marriage is just for the tax benefits but I don't care if fags pay more taxes. I'm not a fan of the state either especially because I have to pay for their GRIDS medication.
As long as I pay taxes I'll do everything I can so that the state resembles my view on things. It doesn't do so in 99% of the cases anyways, so why have even more degeneracy?

>>130049361
Never said that I want to be on the same level as animals.

>>130048667
Learn how to read.

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The principle of marriage is to procreate.
Man and a women, together to make more humans.
Even the old can have a miracle birth, and the principle of marriage is holy because it implies an oath with god to procreate.
2 men, 2 women cant have a baby, its impossible. Therefore its not soley for the reason of child rearing, but soley for lust.
>Inb4 old people marrying, young cpuples not having kids.
>They still CAN buy choose not to, where faggots CANT even if they choose to.

Its an abomination

Also, boycott the new flags its only to break apart nationalists and make everyone equal
>Protip we arent equal, were all humans but not equal.

>>130036546
The bakery thing has to do with property rights. A business owner should have the ability to discriminate against whoever he wants because it's his property.

>>130036546
Sodomite marriage sends a signal that gender difference don't matter. Marriage used to mean an and woman, but Sodomite marriage means gender doesn't matter. Once you capitulate to the faggots on marriage, you green light every sort of faggot to push their agenda, imposing relativistic degenerate values.

>>130051038
inb4 some communist will dispute this

>>130048584
Exactly. Bloody good stuff.

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>Btw science is clear that homosexuality is present in all animal species, it's not some social construct.

>Yes goy you're all monkeys and every animal has gay sex, don't worry it's normal and very common.

Sodomy is disgusting and there is no such thing as gay marriage as marriage implies 1 man + 1 woman. Doesn't help that most sodomites are also pedophiles.

>>130050385
Yet churches pay no taxes and have the biggest influence. But as I can see you support privileges.

>>130050217
For a marriage to be valid a couple must only be able to have sexual intercourse - they don’t have to actually engage in sexual intercourse. But the unconsummated marriage is also dissoluble, since the two have not become “one flesh.”

This is canon law.

>>130036546
homosexuality is a failed ideology which is false and which does not have valid scientific proof. whats worse is that it is degeneracy when 2 men and 2 women do it with each other. and whats even worse is that LGBT fanatics try to force us to accept their failed ideology and evil lifestyle.

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>>130036546
>doesn't affect in any way

Oh really? Then why has the left started shoving faggotry down our throats ever since we gave them one inch of tolerance?

Why do they have to be put up on a pedestal compared to everyone else? The Pulse Club shooting has become a memorial holiday just because the people that were killed happened to be faggots. The anniversary was the other day and the tv and radio wouldn't stop calling those fags heroes for the week surrounding the anniversary.

And now the left has moved on to tranny acceptance. Its only going to get more degenerate if we allow the societal morals our nation was built upon to be cast aside. You would understand this if you weren't either a degenerate fag or a brain damaged lefty. Pic related is your future.

>>130051458
>animals do it so we should too!

You're right, and anyone who uses this argument is a goddamn retard.

>>130052117
You're so anti-sjw and everything that is wrong with it, you would make a great dictator.

>>130036956
>have to be married to get divorced
>somehow skip getting married so you can get divorced
>Divorce rates now higher than marriage rates

you didn't think this post through

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>>130043409
You're fukn crazy.Lions and cats do it because the ALPHA Lion gets all the females.They get thier rocks of from being denied females.But when the Alpha isn't around they will go after a female because it is NATURAL to procreate and continue their genes in NEW LIFE
A part of you and your wife live on from procreation.Your dung lifestyle is self extinguishing.

.Your commie professers have beguiled you to believe a lie and to follow Beelzebub's kingdom of dung.And you will end up with dung in your old age(and a lot of disease to keep you company) You have to douche the shit out of your ass to do it.You have to carry a bottle of lube or use spit which is full of germs to lube yourselves and inject in someone elses bowels wherethere is no immune sytem.You start the wheels of death..Women need plastic double dongs ...It's not at all natural.If you live to old age you'll find all you created with your narcissism is a pile of dung.I pray for you to come to your senses.Most won't.It's a deathstyle.I lived it.Beelzebub the Lord of dung says surely you will not die.The devil is a liar.Your bowels are full of disease and when you partake of disease you invite parasites into your body .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavior-altering_parasite_or_parasitoid
You made yourselves sick.Stay in your closet if you must.FORCING people to accept your perversion is very offensive.You are sick.It has existed before.It has destroyed civilizations.Thats why you have been "liberated" and told it's OK you surely shall not die.Go ahead...do the evil.Let parasites run your life and control your mind till it's too late ..Choose death.A lying tongue HATES those it crushes.Believe your lie.Pride and lust are deadly sins.Partake if you must.Just do it in the closet.

>>130036546
>it doesn't affect you in any way
Yes that's what they say
Bake your own fucking cake and choke on your preferred pronouns

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>>130054030
It's nutz even to have to try and explain to these sick bastards WHY it's a deathstyle

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Gay "Marriage"

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>>130056368
In this 1967 CBS Documentary - 'The Homosexuals' by Mike Wallace (88 minute highlight version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEWomEYWTlU

The ORIGINAL Homosexuals Rights Leader When asked about HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE (calling it GAY is Newspeak) The Leader of the Homosexuals explained what it was that they were after.When asked about Homosexuals getting married the Homosexual Leader Laughed and said absolutley NOT.It was antitheseis to HOMOSEXUAL deathstyle.You communist professors raped your mind and made up this Homosexual Right To be married because it was convienient and would destroy society faster and create chaos and create a new faction that destroys life as well as feminism.They made up the marriage thing.This old Homosexual tells it like it is.He wanted the right to live his homosexual deathstyle but said Marriage was 100% antithetical to Homosexuality and tells you why.
You poor homosexuals have been beguiled in an effort to destroy you and future generations of you that led up to your existence.
It's a lie.We know it. Wake up and don't help the deepstate.You are homosexual deviants.You're not "Gay" Gay is happiness not a homosexual lifestyle of dung.