Can we all agree that the (((evolution theory))) is the biggest

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Yes.

Source : aliens

Then explain frogs
>born in water
>swim like fish
>land creature in matter of weeks

>>130003232
It a actually makes perfect sense if you're willing to let go of your emotional attachment to sorcery.

>>130003471
Michael Phelps
>born in land
>swim like fish
>land creature

Please use a tripcode so I can filter you

>>130003534
*tips*

>>130003656
Solid argument brah

>>130003644
triggered?

>>130003680
Solid country brah

>>130003634
That's a retarded argument, you're either Australian or a fucking leaf

if evolution is not real, can you explain where all the different species come from?

>>130003732
Thanks

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>>130003232
Is it now?

>>130003764
God

>>130003764
Implying evolution - an improbable at best theory - replicated itself billions of times. You're an intellectual mouse.

>>130003870
>implying you won't change by burger alone in just decades, then get chemicals from food that will make you grow boobs and get cancer that will change your organs

>>130003232
Selective breeding is irrefutable. You only need to compare wild animals to domestic ones to see the difference a few generations can make. I don't personally believe the "random mutations" theory. But animals change form generation to generation. That must is undeniable.

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Propose something better, retard.

>>130003870
>intellectual lion makes nonsensical post.
American education at its finest

>>130004051
see
>>130003833

>>130003827

Good one. Then Darwinism is a good 2nd.

>>130004152
I said something better.

>>130003232
chimps aren't our ancestors at least post good bait

>>130004176
It's not Darwinism. Darwin was just one guy. Science extracted and proved things, after all they developed drugs you can use, so evolution is real, but doesn't means everything scientists say is right.

>>130004176
nice flat earth map

>went on a long-term exchange program to an Ivy League town
>a good chunk of the American students didn't fully understand it despite being otherwise well educated

Shouldn't have surprised me but it really did.

>>130003870
now now. does it not make sense that when the body produces dna it might make a mistake a few times?
that leads to a change of genetics, which leads to a change in physical traits of the animal. while the change is very small, if the animal is lucky, that change gives it just a teeny tiny higher chance of producing offspring than others. and over millions, even billions of years, would that not give rise to more and more of that animal?
and would not the mistakes in DNA replication in other offspring also make animals with even more differences?
it seems fairly logical to me, i dont see what your problem with this theory is

>>130004296

evolution is real. But the explanations about the origin of life are wrong.

>>130004335

Nice fallacy. Earth is round.

>>130004663
it's called FYROM you subhuman

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>>130003232
No you retard because it proves that niggers are inferior.

Only burgertards reject proven facts due to their emotional attachments to mythology. The civilised world has moved on.
Saged

>>130004782
>Earth is round
your flag says otherwise cuckold

>>130004863
I'm a burger and I believe in evolution. Of course, I'm also a left nationalist, so I'm probably in the minority in a variety of ways.

>>130004814
IQ proves that

>>130004923
IQ is related to evolution.

>>130003232
Honestly, I always accepted evolution as science, but in the last year or two it has started to seem rather silly to me. Not sure why.

>>130003232
I ain't no god damn monkey yeehawwwww

>there's people who actually believe that every species of animal 'evolved' and changed into different forms from a single animal
retards

>>130003232

Your bullshit is nonsense christfag

>>130004917
Yeah sorry. Some of the greatest minds have come America, you just have a disproportionately large amount of idiots.

>>130003232
If you cannot agree with the theory of evolution, you haven't spent enough time trying to understand it. It's a very straight forward concept with a lot of evidence. Probably the most important discovery humans have made yet, but some people are too busy jerking off to hentai to take 1-2 hours to read through 150 year old findings.

>>130005087
>you just have a disproportionately large amount of idiots.
I.. I know...

>>130004999
early onset alzheimer's or a brain tumor can be the cause of this.

>>130003764
How can species even exist? With evolution, every organism is a link in the chain from one creature to a different one. How does evolution explain the lack of significant differences between members of the same species?

>>130005141
>"hey guys all these animals have sort of similar bone structures so they must be from the same animal 100%"

If evolution has ever occured, it was because the possibilities were preplanted in our genome. Probably triggered by mother virus to infect offspring.

>>130004782
Carl Sagan told me that lightning and a certain mix of atmospheric gases created life.

It may create organic molecules, but I haven't seen evidence of molecules spontaneously forming a cell or DNA.

>>130003232
If we take a fish and slowly acclimatise it to being out of the water. Will it become a crocodile?

>>130005193
because they then are another species
what kind of retard are you

>>130005379
>abiogenesis
there's no basis to the theory. it's pure speculation with none of the science that it claims to be based on. it can't be replicated in a lab or anything. it can't even be proven theoretically. evolution is pop-sci garbage

>>130005379

It takes a mind to create functional code.

>>130005379

everytime when i fart i create life

Say that fag that worships a zombie jew. Good goyim.

>>130005533
Every organism is on its own evolutionary chain. Creatures don't evolve in groups.

>>130005480
i'm sure if we held your head underwater long enough you will eventually become a mermaid, want to try?

>>130005480
>thinks evolution happens during an individual's life
Are you a proxyshart?

>>130005685
If creatures evolve to survival etc then eventually all creatures must merge into the same species.

>>130005685
How do you explain the endosymbiont theory then ?

>>130004740

The mutation are very rare, and mostly deleterous.

It takes billions of billions of generations for a bacteria to gain resistance to antibiotics... a few letters of DNA.
All population genetics models of higher animals that use realistic parameters show fitness declining regardless of the strength of selection, due to deleterious mutations arriving faster than selection can remove them...

>>130005800
>all species live in the same environment
>a species should be able to make use of every single resource in its environment
The retard that keeps on giving.

>>130005917
what's there to explain. it's just another pop-sci theory based on loose 'evidence'

>>130005581
I recently re-watched Cosmos, and Sagan was going on and on about Titan possibly having life because Voyager detected organic molecules in the atmosphere. Cassini-Huygens arrives...no life. They didn't even land in a lake like expected.

Sagan speculated in his segment about the Drake equation that every solar system could have 2 planets where life arose. That's just bullshit nonsense.

That there is zero evidence for life outside of earth is a terrible blow to the idea that life can arise from nothing.

>>130005800
Are you fucking high?
Also sage, this is a shit thread. Anyone who denies evolution at this point should be gassed.

>>130005800
Why? The lines between different species must be arbitrary and blurry if that's the case, but it's not.

>>130005800

Convergent evolution?

>>130006093
What lose evidence ? Why do mitochondries have ribosoms of 30/50 S ----70 S

>>130004782
>Nice fallacy. Earth is round.

No its a pyramid carried along the river of cosmus by a narwhal. Which happens to also be spirit guide man!

If evolution is just a theory then why do niggers look like chimps?

>>130006094
yeah, sagan has a tendency to prattle on about bullshit. he's basically the black science man of that era

>>130006065
Oceans are drying up, sky's are being polluted. Birds will flock to land and so will fish. Fish would die out without arms and legs and so would birds.
>itt American eduction system

>>130006094
Sagan's imaginary aliens were just a proxy for God anyway. He kept rambling about how would humans answer for our actions to an advanced alien race.

Why would we answer to fucking aliens? It's our fucking planet. An alien wouldn't care any more than I would care about two ant colonies going to war. And the fucking ants don't care what I think.

>>130006277
this desu. unless your God created asians and niggers specifically, we all come from the same humble beginning and they both evolved into asians and niggees while we became these white people. without evolution please explain niggers

>>130003656
You saying evolution is nonsense with nothing but false imagery and little understanding is the same level

>>130006208
why wouldn't they. would it automatically mean they're bacteria that somehow evolved to live inside human body cells

>>130005950
detrimental mutations wouldnt arrive "too fast", theyd still be eliminated. do you have a source?

>>130006277
>>130006583
it's adaptation. learn the difference

>>130006454
How did he get so popular. By today's standards he would be called autistic. The segment where he teaches the kids in his childhood school about the planets is the height of cringe.

>>130005480
Are you an American or just an inbred moslem?

>>130006740
teach me

>hey guyosw

>>130006506
>thinks oceans are drying up
>thinks land species are significantly less affected by pollution than avian species
>thinks there's no environmental diversity on land
>still doesn't grasp the concept of resource-based specialization
wew lad

>>130006668

It's been a while, but something like this, for starter.
http://www.worldscientific.com/doi/pdf/10.1142/9789814508728_0010

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>>130004807
>Who could be behind this i wonder

>>130003471
Growth and development.

AKA not evolution.

>>130007245
nice stolen name

>>130003232
Clean your room and read some Nietzsche.

>>130006785
like most weirdos obsessed with science, he was probably autistic. and like most other autists, he couldn't view things outside his perspective

>>130006838
>adaptation
>small changes

>evolution
>one animal 'evolves' into a completely different animal

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>>130005800
>There is only one way to survive

>>130007403
>a ridiculously long line of what I designate as small changes doesn't end up being a big change between the starting point and a point in the far future
Literally can't into logic.

>>130007403
>Small amount of change over small amount of time
>"Yeah that makes sense."
>Large amount of change over large amount of time
>"WTF THAT MAKES NO SENSE!"

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>>130003232
>evolution provides the perfect arguments as to why the races are biologically different and will never be equal, why there are only two genders and they're biologically different and will never be equal, why it's defective to be gay or trans, why gender roles are real and shouldn't be perverted, why hierarchies are real and shouldn't be perverted, why property rights are real and shouldn't be perverted, ect ect, blowing out every liberal argument with the facts of reality
>american "conservatives" throw all this out because their middle eastern book that's been mistranslated a dozen times and is ripping off other religions a dozen times said their jewish god made earth in 6 days

>>130007974
Macroevolution has not been observed and cannot be tested.

>>130007843
>>130007974
let's put it this way, you fags. evolutionists think that whales and humans have a common ancestor just because whales have arm bones. if that's the type of 'logic', 'science' and 'evidence' you think proves evolution then kill yourself

>>130008228
>I am silly
Not an argument.

Evolution theory is right about natural and sexual selection but can't explain other factors that play into Evolution, like gene drift.
Also some species evolve way to fast to explain it with selection alone.
There is actual science-based criticism around Darwins theory, although it has proven very valid. But there is no actual truth. Only pseudo Scientist like Degrasse Tyson speak of "science being true".

>>130008312
>no argument
not an argument

>>130006259
Take the narwhal pill.

>>130007046
thanks, i'll read it

>>130008228
>spouts a very random observation of evolution
IS THAT YOUR PROOF RETARDED EVOLUTIONISTS?

litteraly the most retarded anon ive red in my life

>>130008596
what the fuck are you even trying to say you dumbass leaf. learn to articulate better

>>130008228
we need to fucking nuke canada
like, all of it
nothing of value lies there

Evolution denial is a sure sign of low IQ and awful education.

>>130008337
No need to build up an argument against a non argument. Can you try to justify why should I argue against your strawchap?

The final redpill is that evolution is complete and utter bullshit

It may be a hard one for some of you to swallow but it's the truth

>>130008701
there it is youre actually slow up there
my suspicion of you being retarded just adapted into a reality

>>130008124
Of course it can't be directly observed retard, that doesn't mean it's not true, or that there isn't overwhelming evidence to support it.

>>130008228
The presence of arm bones does suggest that Whales used to live on land millions of years ago. There is a ton DNA evidence to support this as well. In any case, scientists don't claim to understand every tiny facet of evolution, but arguing that evolution as a whole is untrue is plain silly.

>>130008893
Because your book of desert stories tells you so, right?

>>130008959
I take it back, apparently macroevolution has been observed in plant species.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2442920/

>>130008888
because that's what you believe

>>130008913
>says some incoherent shit that doesn't add to the discussion or refute the argument
>thinks his retarded low IQ opinion matters
what a pleb you are

>>130008959
>There is a ton DNA evidence to support this as well
DNA wouldn't be able to prove something like that. do you even know what DNA is

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>>130009431
i literally repeated your post and you called it retarded and incoherent twice
>mfw

>>130008959
and again, the presence of arm bones doesn't prove nor even suggest that whales used to live on land millions of years ago

Explain how viruses manage to escape vaccine attempts then.

>>130009431
>telling other people what they believe is an argument
You're not supposed to admit to using a strawman, friend.
>we don't even know what dna is
You certainly don't.

>>130009577
look at your post >>130008596
>litteraly the most retarded anon ive red in my life
>litteraly
>ive
>red
>red in my life
what are you, mexican

>American Education

>>130009789
if you don't believe that whales and humans share a common ancestor then you can't really defend evolution since that's what evolution ultimately claims since evolution claims that all animals ultimately evolved from a common species.
also, by arguing against the point about how DNA can't prove the claim that whales used to live on land are you now claiming that DNA can actually prove that whales used to live on land

>>130009812
>the most retarded anon that ive read in my life yeah
i see you having a very hard time getting your head around the idea of evolution so i can see how a one letter typo couldve prevented you from understanding an otherwise very simple sentence
after all, you are the most retarded

>>130003232
yes, it's a (((sham)))

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>>130009431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3O6KYPmEw

>>130009672
On its own it proves nothing, but it is heavily backed up by DNA evidence. But from the sounds of it, you don't think that means anything.
https://www.thoughtco.com/about-homologous-structures-1224763

>>130010156
it's not about typos you dumbass. you can't even articulate yourself, you're obviously not smart enough to even discuss anything with
>hurrr u r le dumbest anon i red
isn't an argument. fucking leaf

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>>130003232
This is why nobody takes Alt-Shite seriously

>>130003232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEwdUIc_3fA
Even islam is more likely to be true than evolution.

>>130010385
again, none of this is evidence of evolution. DNA doesn't prove it either. if there were some sort of unequivicol 100% data based evidence of evolution the entire scientific community would unanimously agree on it like with the theory of gravity but you don't see that and something like even ~15% of scientists don't believe in evolution because there's no concrete evidence of it

>>130010155
I do believe that whales and humans share a common ancestor, I just disagree with your "hurr durr whales evolved because muh arms I am silly" narrative.
Here's a source with a more appropriate explanation
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03

>>130003232
It's a killer theory, we have no idea how life first came about though.

>>130010405
well to be fair this is my second language and youve been calling me a retard for your past 3 posts this one included because i did at the end of a comment which had an actual point beforehand.
but it
>isn't an argument
.. right. a leaf calling leaf a leaf has always been a supreme faggot in my experience

>>130010775
It's more like 97% of scientists, and 100% of biologists, you know, the ones who actually thoroughly understand the topic. But feel free to continue to stick your head in the sand.

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>>130003471
>turn gay

>>130010870
it's not a 'narrative'. that's the actual reasoning that evolutionists use for their claim
>all these animals share similar dna
>all these animals share similar bone structure
and so on.. isn't evidence. you can find 50% of shared dna between humans and bananas. and has it ever occurred to you that bone structure only has so many ways to form in order to function efficiently

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>>130003232

If (((evolution theory))) is real then why today we have only the "first" spece(ape) and the last(modern day human)????

Where are the """middle""" species??

btfo atheist cucks

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>>130003232
>nothing ever adapts or physically changes and every plant, animal, bug and germ on this planet has remained exactly the same since forever

>>130011007
but i'm not a leaf you fucking leaf

>>130011117
that's your opinion
>100% of biologists
that ratio isn't even mildly convincing

>>130011448
GOOD ARGUMENT FRIEND UR SO SMART

>>130005379
Not relevant to the theory of evolution. This is a theory to explain what happened before evolution.

>>130011431
MICROEVOLUTION IS TRUE BUT HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A BIRD CHANGE INTO A FISH???
I THINK NOT!!!!!

>>130011448
"In 1987,” he observes, “Newsweek found that less than 0.15% of 480,000 biologists and earth scientists polled doubted evolution.”

https://ncse.com/blog/2013/08/how-many-creationists-science-0014996

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>>130004051
fucking this

>>130011629
I saw a woman get married once and she changed into a whale, is that good enough?

>>130011399

There are like 30 middlespecies. Go to a fucking museum for once.

>evolution doesn't make sense
>that's why when making humans god started with the ape genome and combined the 2nd and 13th set of chromosomes
>which we can see from the presence of telemeres in the wrong part of the DNA strands
>because he's just that good

Why is the god did it theory always crazier?

>>130003232
Based on what? There is quite a sum evidence to prove evolution. More than enough. And it's not Jewish. Don tell be a dunce.

>>130011279
>"muh arms" is the same argument as careful comparison of bone structure, age suggesting time of divergence, and habitat predictions based on salt water content
Not sure if I still even want to discuss these mental gymnastics.

Anyway, what's your proposed theory then? Are you suggesting that all now extinct animals that we have evidence of once coexisted with every single species that still exists today?

>>130011750
>polled
because everyone knows the '''''nc'''s'''e'''' is very reliable when it comes to unbiased polls about 'science'. honestly you should start thinking for yourself instead of just believing whatever pop-sci tries to feed you

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>>130011876
lel, this never convinces creationists and I'll explain why
Hominids exists and we have plenty evidence of different species and how they involved into homo sapiens
>not humans actually apes
Shit like fish with rudimentary feet
>still a fish nothing to do with evolution
platypus and spiny anteater lay eggs and are clearly something between mammals and reptiles
>mammals are mammals, reptiles are reptiles and platypi are platipi

>>130011964
>careful comparison of bone structure, age suggesting time of divergence, and habitat predictions based on salt water content
that's just pedantic wordplay. none of that is viable

and there's no theories that need to be proposed because any theory that should be proposed should be backed with factual evidence and not the speculatory crap that evolution theory is

>>130003232
not rly
big bang theory is much more retarded
at least darwins theory makes some sense and has a point

>>130011876
And why there is only the first spece and the last one alive?Should the at least one of the """middle""" species be alive and not the first one?

Does this make sense to you at all??

>>130012302
I could say the same about your "I am silly" non-argument. In fact, you could say that all this time, I've been addressing the fact that you were trying to make something look ridiculous by presenting it in an incoherent, simplified and incomplete manner.

And don't avoid my question. What do you think about the fact that the Earth couldn't possibly sustain both all current and now extinct species? What better explanation than evolution do you have?

>>130011977
I've come to the conclusion that you deny evolution for at least one of two reasons:

1) You're a creationist, which would make the fact that you're demanding more evidence hilariously ironic

OR

2) To posture as intellectually superior.

It must take an extreme level of arrogance to casually dismiss the work and evidence of thousands upon thousands of scientists far better educated on this topic than you.

>>130003827

desu i always tried to make sense of it

if u try to equate the father, the son and the holy spirit with god it doesn't make sense but if you see god as the sum of the father, the sun and the holy spirit that makes sense.

still pretty dumb

I believe in the general natural selection theory of evolution as put forth by Darwin

...HOWEVER, I am quite sceptical about how much weight this theory ought to be accorded in terms of politics. It seems that the 'universalising' qualities of evolutionary theory are readily appropriated by liberals.

This is because, to strongly invoke evolution, one can easily reach the position that 'we're all humans, we're all equal'. Basically, I think that evolution can explain how and why different species came together, but it ignores the more nuanced and sociological question of ethnogensis, i.e. what makes a Turkic person Turkic, what makes a Jap a Jap, what makes a Dane a Dane.

I couldn't care less if someones religion directs them to deny evolution. It has limited use in politics, and I think can be downright dangerous as a gift to liberals to misappropriate the intellectual high ground.

>>130012749
>>130012891
>BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL ! BILL !

if evolution isn't real then how do superbugs exists?

>>130013232
nice pseudo scientific crap

>>130013266
out of curiosity what do you get out of losing arguments on the internet because you do that a lot

If you believe in that fedora ''science'' crap, just don't call yourself a Christian, it blatantly contradicts the holy book, and you can't just pick and choose shit you fucking heretics
The Earth was made in 6 days also

>>130013266
All out of arguments?

>>130003870
I have to thank you for an argument against evolution I have never seen before. Hilarious.

>>130004782
Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life.

Darwin was an atheist scum
Nothing worse than a believer in that crap who calls himself a Christian
EVERY WORD in the Bible is 100 PERCENT TRUE. You can't just choose your favourite parts

>>130007403
evolution is essentially just change over time.
this guy:
>small changes =/= changes

>>130003232
This is stupidity. Apes aren't our ancestors, they're our cousins.

>>130003232

Evolution is clearly bullshit.

They have yet to even fathom how it could have started. I mean even the most simple lifeforms require huge dna sequences. They basically want you to believe something as astronomically improbable as someone winning the lottery 1000 times in a row and getting hit by lighting every time they won.

>>130008124
They have bred a fly species into a whole new fly that can't reproduce with the original specie. So we already have speciation.

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>>130011780
I like.

>>130003232
yup i didun com fru,m no monke

>>130003232
The only thing I willing to give is the way it is taught really isn't supported by the evidence.

Its taught in school that evolution takes a very long time to occur.

Where the evidence suggests that evolution happens very quick after a mass extinction event, with a explosion of new life forms until a new balance is found, after which very little (if any) evolution happens until the next mass extinction.

>>130014176
>thing is complex
>it must have been created
>I don't understand probabilities
c'mon dudes

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>>130003827
>it's beyond human comprehension
>it's dumb

pick one

>w-why should I believe any of that nonsense then

faith

>>130005685
you're right, species are basically arbitrary distinctions, made by humans

doesn't mean evolution isn't occuring though

>>130003232
Whites <- Chinks <- Spics <- Sandniggers <- Niggers <- Apes

>>130016698
Jews <- Whites <- Chinks <- Spics <- Sandniggers <- Niggers <- Apes