I am a liberal but my views are almost nothing like those that

>>129963581
maybe youre not a liberal after all

>>129963581
free shit lmao

>>129963581
Congratulations! You're a centrist.

>>129963581
I am a conservative but my views are almost nothing like those that /pol/ attributes to conservatives.

What is your reaction to this fact?

keep lurking then bro

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what do make of these guys

>>129963913
liar

>>129963581
So how are you different than /pol/'s stereotype of liberals?

>>129963581
you havent actually shared any of your views, so what is there to say

People don't understand what liberal is supposed to mean. Most people confuse liberals with communists/leftists. Real liberals are rare now.

>>129963581
Maybe you should explain what your views are

>>129963581
You literally said nothing, there is no "fact" to react to lol. Nice try tho faggot

>>129963581
> liberal
> no arguments
> shitposter

Checks out.

>>129963581
Great so you are a lib fucktard that needs to feel even more goddamn unique. Gtfo snowflake, go suck cock elsewhere.

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>>129963581
>I am a liberal
stopped reading there

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>>129963581
Elaborate on your beliefs anon. Are you a classic liberal or an American liberal?

>>129963581
neat

>>129964182
When people refer to liberals, they're usually referring to progressives. That's why I don't call myself a liberal even though I'm basically one if you include all the definitions.

>>129963819

I'm pretty sure I am. I mean, this forum is conservative, right? And I disagree with the vast majority of viewpoints asserted here

>>129963913

Honestly I'm not sure what /pol/ thinks conservatives are. I only see them bashing liberals or people they associate with liberals

>>129963962

Never heard of it

>>129964057
>>129964147
>>129964324

Pick a topic and I'll give my view

>>129964628
Modern progressives align more with communists. Not sure why people associate the term liberal with progressive anymore. Maybe because it sounds nicer?

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>>129963581

We've established no 'facts' idiot. You haven't named any of your views.

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>>129963581
I'm a liberal because unlike conservatives, I actually enjoy having an economy.

>>129964808

Great, so you're probably a sargon of cuck-ad fan. Good for you.

>>129965100

I have absolutely no idea what this post means

>>129963581
What do you think about:
>Death Penalty
>Abortion
>Immigration
>Euthanasia
>Gun control
>Homosexuality
>Transsexuality
>Drug legalization
?

>>129964808
>conservative
That's where you'd be wrong, kiddo.

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>>129964991

nice spin fagit

>>129963581

I always knew you were out there but I don't care

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>>129965762
Lol right wing retards shit on the Obama economy for 8 years then suddenly try to take credit for it. You filthy retards are the biggest degenerates on the planet.

Even Republicans called it the Obama economy.

You realize I fucking btfo you retards hard when all you can do is try to take credit for Obama and Clinton's greatness and completely dindu an 8 year GOP presidency

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>>129963581
Post yours.

The left is now extreme left.
I'm considered conservative right now.

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>>129963581
filthy piece of shit

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>>129963581

>>129963581
/pol/ is full of fucking retards that strawmen "liberal" as the crazy feminists you see on fox news, which is a very reputable news source, btw.

>>129965875
The economy is in shambles

Trump's trying to be optimistic

>>129965875

Hey there Obama leaf.

>>129964182
Bless you.

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>>129963581
You are a libratarian that just doesn't know it yet.

>>129963581
Go back to kikebook

>>129964822
Liberal doesn't really mean anything in America, it's just an insult for anything that's left wing, from democrats all the way to progressive.

>>129963581
Then you may be a classical liberal, and classical liberalism is basically conservatism, true conservatism.

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>>129966211
hello

>>129965387
>Death Penalty

I think it should only be done in a system where there is absolutely no way people are wrongly convicted, which is not the case in the US. So the concept itself makes sense for people who committed horrible crimes AND are broken beyond the point of rehabilitation, but the US prison system is a mess so we shouldn't use it right now.

>Abortion

Should be legal until the fetus is viable

>Immigration

People should be vetted to some degree, though admittedly I don't know how you vet people from other countries when you probably don't have much documentation.

>Euthanasia

If someone of sound mind is suffering and wants to die, there should be some kind of legal procedure to kill themselves or, if they're unable to do that, have some assist with it.

>Gun control

I don't think having guns is important anymore, although there is a Constitutional right to have them. The main reasons people cite seem to be self defense against criminals and self defense against a possible martial law/civil war. There is data to suggest the net effect of owning a gun is that more harm than good comes of it, especially if you have family members and super especially if you have children. And if the government enacted martial law I don't think citizens with handguns, even if there were 20 million of them, would stand a chance. (Although I think many armed forces members would defect in such an event and so the idea is absurd in the first place)

>>129964991
Conservatism != Republicans
National Socialism, a right wing ideology, brought the u employment rate in Germany to zero percent. Name a Democrat president that has done better than that.

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>>129966057
actual size

>>129966115
>Complaining about generalization by generalizing
>>129966115

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>>129963581
But this disturbs my masturbatory circlejerk illusion around which I base my identity and all my meme reposting. Fuck you, OP.

>>129963581
>What is your reaction to this fact?

You are either lying, or in denial, or don't understand /pol/.

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>>129966679
>National Socialism, a right wing ideology, brought the u employment rate in Germany to zero percent.

How was Germany doing in 1945?

>>129966115

Nah, there's a reason why on the right there's all these various factions, compared to the left where there isn't within the DNC.

You ''''liberals'''' clinging to the left are irrelevant because you have no interest in cleaning your house. And you've lost the house, senate, white house and supreme court because you've lost your minds.

We don't need to strawman you, you do that to yourselves.

>>129964808

Maybe you're a classical liberal?

>>129966635
I take my comment back, you are not a classical liberal, you are a statist and a progressive.

>>129963581
I simply do not believe you. The odds are that your views are exactly like those I attribute to liberals, or else that you are not actually a liberal, you're some sort of "classical liberal" dingbat.

>>129964991
Obama leaf kys

>>129965875
>Obamaleaf still doing damage control after he got BTFO and Trump's economy soars

Don't think we'll ever forget that you're a Leaf.

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>>129965387
>Homosexuality

I think homosexuality is primarily genetic, as evidenced by similar behavior in other mammals, and being gay should be as big of a deal as being a foot fetishist. I don't think gays are trying to brainwash children into being gay or anything like that, since I don't think you can become gay (or that a gay person can become straight).

>Transsexuality

I don't understand it at all and the aggressive pronoun culture is overbearing. The evidence I've seen is that sex reassignment surgery generally doesn't lead to better outcomes. I think pic related is really weird.

>Drug legalization

All drugs should be legalized and regulated, end of story. If something is both dangerous and has no beneficial effect then no one will bother to produce it.

>>129963581
You're a libertarian or bordering on one.

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>>129967114

>>129965881

I could probably google this to find it but I'm a lazy liberal. Link?

>>129966832
>Trying to compare Nazi Germany at its apex when Hitler could focus entirely on policies to a multiple front post-war Germany

>>129963581
Then you have no representation and are irrelevant.

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>>129967099
Thanks Obama!

Can't wait to see how hard u retards dindu the Trump economy 3 years from now once those failed GOP policies kick in

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>>129967240

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>>129966635
Wow your a centrist kys

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>>129967332
>low unemployment due to military mobilization had nothing to do with the country being at war

u right wing retards really are mentally handicapped

>>129967154
Position on the economics?
Position on religion?
Equality of opportunity or equity as the philosophy behind policy?

From what you write so far, you are a classical liberal

>>129963581
Your not a real liberal just afraid to admit your anything else because of the social stigma

>>129964808
Mass immigration of non-whites

>>129966973
>statist

My understanding of that word is that the state should have control over people's affairs. It seems to me like most of my views are more hands-off than anything.

>>129963581

Classical Liberal / Minarchist

>>129964808
this forum is a cesspool of trolls
its about as conservative as
five dicks peeing into your anus
after youve french kissed obamas asshole

>>129966727
His ex-wife said he has a 9-inch penis.

It's pretty crazy how liberals try to attribute quirks of the male body to the causes of personality defects.

>>129963581
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPP

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>>129967693
No she didn't.

>>129967602
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism#Evolution_of_core_beliefs

read and see if you agree.

For the most part you appear to be a very moderate social liberal. Or a classical liberal.

>>129963581
My reaction is you're a Post-Modernist millennial moron who doesn't have any fucking idea how stupid he sounds to grow ups.

>>129963581
>I am a liberal
post pics of your gf getting nailed by tyrone while you suck his huge, steaming creampie out of her vaj

>>129967226

I used to subscribe to libertarianism, and some of their tenets I agree with, but it goes too far off the deep end of "private sector fixes everything". For example, do libertarians think there should be regulations on industries? I think there should be, because anything without checks is bound to run amok.

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>>129967879
Honestly, I think these accusations are probably true.

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>>129966635
>Immigration
Your immigration post sums up Trumps ban, those countries have no documentation.

>Gun control
Your skewed view is laughable, Most people don't need to use their guns because most gun crimes are done in the cities where they are generally not allowed or hard to obtain. The only people with guns there are criminals. If you took out the suicides from guns (which you don't disagree with), the stats would be much better, not that they reflect your post in the slightest to begin with but they would look much better for legal gun owners.

>>129963581
Same here. I feel like I'm actually moderate but that's liberal by today's standards.

>>129963581

Trump is that you?

>>129967154
>All drugs should be legalized and regulated, end of story.
Wrong. This is what's wrong with you people. You don't think about society as a whole, you only care about your own self indulgence.

Hard drugs like Heroine and Meth put everyone at risk. People get addicted and are willing to commit crime to get the money for more. They go crazy and hallucinate and may attack others. They are also a drain on healthcare and tax dollars and many refuse to work and choose to be homeless. Fuck that, we shouldn't have legal drugs that harm society because of "muh freedumbs".

>If something is both dangerous and has no beneficial effect then no one will bother to produce it.
This is just idiotic. All you have to do to disprove this is look at cigarettes. No beneficial effects and it slowly and painfully kills you and those around you. Yet it's still legal, still produced, and people still buy it.
>>129967510
Most job creation wasn't military, it was in the public sector.

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>>129968110
they are

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>>129968336
>Most job creation wasn't military, it was in the public sector.


you just went full retard

How was Germany's economy in May 1945?

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>>129963581
>what area of the US are you from?
>thoughts on abortion
>thoughts on over the counter birth control
>thoughts on general foreign policy
>thoughts on muslims
>thoughts on immigration control
>thoughts on socialism

>>129967879
Would it really matter either way?

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>>129968406
He really does put his hands in places that he shouldn't. Is he having a sneaky boob squeeze in this pic? Are experiences like this what made him pressure Ivanka into getting a slut-style boob job?

>>129963581

cuck

>>129963581

you are an actual liberal, what /pol/ really doesn't like is marxist faggots

>>129966635
>There is data to suggest the net effect of owning a gun is that more harm than good comes of it
Meh, you sound like a standard libcuck.

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>>129967154
>homosexuality is primarily genetic
You think people are born gay? Dude fucking kys.

>All drugs should be legalized and regulated
>most of my views are more hands-off than anything.

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>>129967879

>>129967226
This. I was in OPs shoes for a few years - its scary leaving the cult of leftism so you sort of play the part of a skeptic who doesn't fit the mold even though at the end of the day you are still on their side, when in reality youre a Penn Jillete tier libertarian who can't be honest with yourself due to social pressure.

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>>129968573
haven't seen that one. rare pic.

Probably. He was talking about Tiffany's boobs when she was still a baby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMsd4C7YwzA

>>129963581
You sound like a young, dumb faggot looking for attention.

In which case you should kill yourself asap.

>>129968526
There economy was destroyed from war. When Hitler first took over they weren't in war and had no interest in it. Unemployment rate was brought to zero percent before going into war. After war, like what happens to any country that loses, their industry was completely destroyed.

>>129964056

Pol is not conservative. Its radically regressive.

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>>129968871
>this egyptian

>>129967543
>economics

I'll admit I don't know enough about it to have a clear opinion. I generally distrust large corporations as they have no moral incentive, and if a move leads to more profit, they are almost guaranteed to take it even if it's morally objectionable. Of course, I also recognize my morals aren't universal and absolute and therefore it's not possible for corporations to be "moral" in everyone's eyes.

>religion

I am an atheist but I also don't care if someone's religious as long as they don't use it to harm others. Almost all Mormons I've ever met were like heads and shoulders above others in terms of being good people. Many evangelical Christians I've met were quite ignorant and abrasive. I don't think I've known many Jews, Muslims, or Buddhists.

>Equality of opportunity or equity as the philosophy behind policy

I think there are people who were dealt a shit hand from birth, and people who were dealt an amazing hand, and we can't expect both to be presented the same world from that point on and expect similar outcomes. I don't believe quotas are the answer to disparity. I think there are systemic and cultural causes that lead to, for example, schools in poor neighborhoods almost universally having more problems than schools in rich neighborhoods (parents are better educated, more stable families, more access to education outside school, more emphasize at home on importance of education).

>>129965944
checked

>>129967594
>Mass immigration of non-whites

What does "mass" mean? And qualify their immigration; are they educated professionals, illegals, etc?

>>129966365

This.

I'm a John Carpenter style progressive who gives zero fucks about identity politics, which is just one big motherfucking distraction for really stupid people from all walks of life.

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>>129968934
Nice evidence. It gets more compelling the more you see.

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>>129968971
>Unemployment rate was brought to zero percent before going into war.

Wrong

You also realize they were ramping up their war machine for years right?

They broke the Treaty of Versailles and marched their military into the Rhineland in 1936 ffs

You retards know nothing except your memes from pol. Don't even try it. You autistic little retards don't stand a chance.

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>>129963581

>I am a liberal but my views are almost nothing like those that /pol/ attributes to liberals

fake and gay

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>>129969066
back at you

>>129966635
welcome to the centrist master race

>>129969008
show flag

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>>129969217
here's a compilation

>>129963581
You are not a liberal.

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>>129969057
>economics
>I'll admit I don't know enough about it to have a clear opinion
Yup, you're a liberal alright

>>129963581
>>129963913
>falling for the 2 party jew

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>>129963581
I used to be a liberal. An actual liberal. Now I want to see "liberal" bodies piled in the street.

>>129969431
It's Obamaleaf. I've found it interesting how I've seen almost no Canada flags the past several days

>>129969495
what's that guy's name ?

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>>129964991
Wow a fucking

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>>129963581
>What is your reaction to this fact?
I know what (You) are
but what am I?
Pro tip: Pic related.

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>>129969380
weird family tbqh

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>>129964808
>Thinks /pol/ is conservative
>Has no idea that half of us are classical liberals
>Has no idea that a large amount of us are degenerates
>Believes that /pol/ is a person

>>129963581
>fact
>that you can know what /pol/ thinks
>that you can predict what /pol/ attributes
>that you even can know who /pol/ is
I'll say that you have the typical liberal grasp on facts.
Do you even lift?

>>129969464

Kill yourself immediately.

>>129969589
this quote perfectly describe this shithole to a T

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>>129969660
I'll gladly alternate to trigger u fucks but why shouldn't be able to enjoy my new Democrat flag

>>129967972

Eh, I'm finding myself disagreeing with a lot:

>society is no more than the sum of its individual members
>purpose of government should be to minimize conflict between individuals that would otherwise arise in a state of nature

That last one I think is true to some degree, but also leaves out things like subsidizing science research and protecting the environment, both of which I support.

>They opposed any income or wealth redistribution

I want universal healthcare and basic income, kek

I guess if you took classical liberalism and added environmental protection, education/research funding, and expanded "public works and infrastructure" to include basic healthcare and income then I'd support it.

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>>129966635
>There is data to suggest the net effect of owning a gun is that more harm than good comes of it
These stats are skewed for political reason; Much of the "harm" comes from suicides by people who own guns or buy them for that purpose.

>And if the government enacted martial law I don't think citizens with handguns, even if there were 20 million of them, would stand a chance.
See pic related, any situation that pits the people vs the government results in a loss for the government. Also consider that police and not jets/tanks/etc. are needed to uphold a police state, which makes an armed populace very damaging for such a state.

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>>129969900
no u

>>129969938
Yeah sorry. That will be a lot of Jews. Nothing personal kid

>>129963581
Please tell fellow your liberals to stop being and supporting violence because it won't end well especially for them.

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>>129969813

>>129969380
I'm sorry your mom never showed you love and kissed you

>>129969914
Every single thread you're in you post a minimum of 50 replies. You autistically trigger yourself into an impotent rage pretty much daily

>>129969849
This

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>>129969904
>Ya, HaHa, this shithole that is essentially the only place left on the open web where a free open market of ideas is encouraged.
Stupid nigger.

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>>129969378
Military went up because it was seen as your duty. Men had to serve two years by law. It wasn't done to create jobs.

Like I said, the vast majority of new jobs came from public work doing things like working on infrastructure, and working in factories. At the time, Germany was the most industrious nation in Europe.

In the end though, how the jobs were created doesn't matter. You're the autist arguing over something irrelevant. Unless you can show a Democrat president that did as well as Hitler on unemployment, you can go.

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>>129970209
>Implying

>>129963581
Tits or GTFO.

>>129968336
>your own self indulgence.

The irony is I don't drink or intake any drugs beyond caffeine. I just think it's silly to condone alcohol but not other drugs. If your angle is preventing harm then I guarantee you alcohol has led to more negative outcomes than any other mind-altering substance in history.

Cigarettes have multiple effects that people like (a buzz, suppression of appetite, etc), although the negatives far outweigh the positives. Cigarette smoking in the US has been declining ever since the definitive conclusion that it was very harmful was made public.

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>>129968971
The economy was recovering from the depression, and Hitler only turned around the economy with help from the USA hoping they would be a bulwark against communism.

Hitler didn't do anything but implement social and nationalization of an already growing economy, and then invest almost entirely in a future war (if you dig deep into Nazism, they go full on retard and even talk about deindustrializing in favor of an agrarian economy because industrial economies lead to degenerates and banks taking control (and the importation of foreign workers.) Whether or not many of that is actually true to an industrial economy doesn't matter because an agrarian nation could never stand up to an industrialized one.

>>129964808
"Liberal" and "Conservative" is like a spectrum. It's just like gender, remember?
Your definition of "liberal" is not the same as /pol/'s, and most likely aren't even the same as the "liberals" on the media.
So question yourself this, are you truly a liberal?

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>>129970411
Are you really going to continue denying that ramping up the German war machine didn't create jobs and reduce the unemployment rate?

Did no right wing retard seriously ever challenge u on this?

>>129963581

I think the common term of "liberal" and "conservative" no longer matter in current American politics. They're just leftovers trying to stay around in an era where they don't belong anymore in their old mainstay meanings.

Labels that when you use the no longer have real meaning when talking about what you believe in when considering larger groups.

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>>129969849
>Has no idea that half of us are classical liberals
>allied yourselves with the biggest fuckin' neocon jackass to end all neocon jackasses

Therefore, /pol/ IS blatantly conservative, you're just in denial about it.

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>>129970310
lol don't be so triggered by me

>>129963581
>google "liberal"
>find both thomas jefferson and bernie sanders
really juggles my nuggles

>>129968550
>what area of the US are you from?

Texas

>abortion
>over the counter birth control

Already answered abortion. Birth control pills and condoms? Fine. Morning after pill is fine too by default since I am fine with abortions up until the fetus is viable.

>general foreign policy

Maintain healthy relationships with allies and stop manipulating everything. The US doesn't need to be the world police nor does it need it's hands in every pie.

>muslims

I haven't had much personal interaction with them, but I think the vast majority of the clash we have right now is cultural differences. By default almost every cultural difference is negative inherently. I don't think stoning people to death is a good thing. Then again, I'm sure Muslims don't think being an atheist is a good thing. It would certainly be easier if cultures kept away from each other, but I'm not sure long-term that's a way that is sustainable unless we plan on avoiding each other for the rest of human existence.

>>129963581
You are an American. decades upon decades of Ideological subversion has destroyed the average American's ability to grasp politics. Americans shit on "liberals" and "Liberalism" while also simultaneously praising the founding fathers. They call open communists radicals like Antifa "liberals", they call people who oppose freedom of speech, unite under collectivist groups like BLM or LGBT and support Bernie sanders; "liberals"

These people are socialists and communists and are completely opposed to Liberalism. American conservatism is actually the closest modern day representation of Liberalism.

>>129963581

You need to update your newspeak dictionary, you'll get eaten alive if you try to act that way among the people that call themselves "liberals" now, as Richard Dawkins found out.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/the-atheist-movement-needs-to-disown-richard-dawkins-999

>>129965387

Do me pls


>What do you think about:
>>Death Penalty
I think people should get a chance if they are just thieves and what not, or they repeat the same crime 3 times kill 'em.

If they rape or murder kill them.

>>Abortion
Doesn't matter until the child is born, before that its not an independent life form so fuck it

>>Immigration
Yeah nah, limited immigration is okay so long as they speak English but it shouldn't be a mass thing.

>>Euthanasia
Kill 'em if they wanna die

>>Gun control
Guns are based

>>Homosexuality
Not my business

>>Transsexuality
Weird and probably a mental disease

>>Drug legalization
Weed and Alcohol should be allowed but not binging

Dopers should be gassed

Am I a liberal /pol/?

>>129968061
>For example, do libertarians think there should be regulations on industries? I think there should be, because anything without checks is bound to run amok.

Some do, some don't. There are varying degrees of libertarianism--you don't have to go full an-cap. Most fall into the generic realm of "fiscally conservative/socially very liberal." If you agree with many of Rand and Ron Paul's stances, you're probably a libertarian.

>>129963581
Ambivalence. I don't care anymore. I just want people to settle down and stop with the extreme tribalism before more innocents get killed over disagreements.

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>>129971071
>believes that /pol/ is a person.
>believes that i care enough about politicians to who who he is referring to without including names
>posts a picture of that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand, not even ironically.

>>129963581
"Liberals" are only referred to as such these days. They don't necessarily espouse the values (namely Freedom of Speech) that classical liberals adhered to.

It's like a hipster community now, they are mostly nihilists aside from the fact that they preach Diversity as some sort of proto-religion.

>>129970537
Alcohol is not nearly as bad as hard drugs. We do need to crack down on it and really go after people that drunk drive, but it doesn't need to get banned. It doesn't turn you completely crazy like meth does, or permanently make you retarded like heroine. People don't kill others to get money for their next alcohol fix. I'm not against softer drugs like weed, but legalizing them all is insane.

Cigarettes only give a buzz at first, after the first few weeks the buzz stops and you are addicted. Suppression of appetite only happens for a few, not most. As you said, the negatives are way worse than the positives, yet it's still produced and consumed. Cigarettes are just corporations preying on the weak minded, and it would only happen more if we legalized all drugs.
>>129970932
Show me where I said it didn't create jobs.
You can't, because I didn't.
I said most jobs came from public works.

>>129969849
>>129969871

You know if I gave a shit I could show statistically that certain views of liberals are extremely common compared with contrasting views, and therefore, it's fair to say that /pol/, the forum, attributes those views. That doesn't mean literally 100% of posters here believe them.

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>>129963581
Meh

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>>129971791
>Doesn't matter until the child is born, before that its not an independent life form so fuck it
kys

>so long as they speak English but it shouldn't be a mass thing.
How about forced assimilation? How about an American history test? Constitutional classes? Why didn't you mention any of these?

>Am I a liberal /pol/?
Game Over.

>>129963581
You're a liberal but you don't want increased immigration, a bigger welfare state, gun control, end of school choice (all kids have to go through govt propaganda education centers)?

You're not a liberal.

>>129968061
Why do you think industries will run amok without controls, yet believe social activities like euthanasia, drugs and child sex-changes should not be controlled "hands off" as you say

You're a classic liberal. Modern liberals won't claim you.

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>>129972122
Who were these men employed by?

>>129964808
You are a complete moron if you believe THIS place is an example of conservative views.

>>129969849
>>Has no idea that half of us are classical liberals
IF this were true it would only confirm that reddit invaded after the election

>>129971847
>social very liberal

I should expound upon this: I meant social very liberal compared to the average /pol/tard.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm

I'm mostly referring to his stance on drugs since a lot of /pol/tards are "anti-degeneracy."

>>129972255
>caring about some retarded druggies child never being born

Fuck off

>history test, forced assimilation, constitutional classes
Aren't most legal immigrants who aren't refugees forced to do most of these things already? Yeah they should be acting like Americans and you should be able to tell.

>>129972432
>stupid leaf doesn't inderstand the definition of most

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>>129972602
>right wing retard in denial that Hitler brought down unemployment with conscription, military spending, and gubmint spending

>>129972479
>Only politician /pol/ has supported more over the years than Trump is Ron Paul
>Thinking the fact most of the board is Classical liberals/libertarians is a sign of reddit invasion

Lurk the fuck moar and you'll learn how to stop exposing yourself as someone who just started using this board.

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>>129963581
Congratulation! You're a faggot in denial!
Now get off this board. Please.

>>129972763
How is irrelevant. The fact is a right wing leader brought unemployment to zero percent.
>left wing retard can't name a Democrat president that did nearly as good, so he has to move the goalposts and make up new arguments

>>129972392

Because euthanasia is naturally limited in scope, drugs are already freely accessible and I don't know what child sex-changes has to do with anything.

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>>129973029
It was never zero percent and certainly not before the war. Hitler left his country a smoldering ruin and blew his brains out. You forget that part.

I love how u think Nazi Germany's labor reporting in the 1930s is official but modern data from the BLS is fake right?

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>>129972588
>caring about some retarded druggies child never being born
No, I was mocking your..."before that its not an independent life form" part.

>>129971507
An aussie who did make a shitpost...impressive

Although I'm a far lefty, your post is sound

>>129964182
Jim Web was the best the left had to offer and they wouldn't even let him speak.

>>129963581
ok... why should I care about your views.

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>>129963581
You'd be removed in a libertarian society.

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>>129973316
I'll add to this so you can fully grasp my laughter.
Most kids are about 3 years old before they even pass the mirror test, should we be able to abort kids 3 years old and under anon?

>>129973029
>falling for "Nazis are right wing" meme

>>129973225
And as I said, the country was left like that because it was a multiple front post war. If Europe and America never got involved and he stuck to fighting only Russia, that wouldn't have gone down like that. Sure, he made mistakes with his war, but you can't compare the country under him to the country post-war. Obviously industry is going to be destroyed after losing like that.

And why should you trust an American government agency over the actual reporting from their own country?
And the BLS is absolutely lying about modern unemployment rates in America. It's as high as 20-30 percent. They artificially deflate by not including certain things like people who have been unemployed for a certain amount of time. Obamacare also brought it way down because it requires businesses to provide full-time workers with health insurance, so a lot of businesses made all their employees only part time, then hired twice as many people as part time so they wouldn't have to give insurance, and part time workers count as jobs.

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>>129965881
I'm not the OP, but I figured I'd post it anyway.

>>129963581
you dont exist obviously

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>>129972172
>What is a gestalt?
I appreciate that you are actually engaging so i till try to answer you serious.

/pol/ is what you make it. If you want /pol/ to be an ironic progressive Mongolian basket weaving board, it is easy to build up that profile.

The only thing that /pol/ members have in common is that they are anonymous. Complexity can arise from seemingly nothingness and separate agents working independently can give rise to what seems to be a conspiracy.

Different types of posts attract different type of people. Do me a favor. Open up the catalog and click on any topic with more than 100 posts. For every comment agreeing with the OP, add 1. For every comment disagreeing with the OP or completely off topic, minus 1.

I guarantee that even during optimum hours with minimum shilling, you will not be able to reach 50 or higher and it is all but impossible that you will reach 80. Literally impossible. And if you control for the OP and people spamming their opinions, it becomes almost impossible to get to even 50.

But for some odd reason people attempt to make assumptions about /pol/.

By the way most members of /pol/ who are okay with, or support Trump support him specifically because they have not been given any reason to not support Trump.

If you want a fun exercise; try taking the negation of each post in this thread where a negation can be taken. The results will surprise you.

>>129973031
My point is they need to be regulated. Saying that people make responsible choices with their lives moreso than a business owner would with his industry, is shortsighted. Especially when you examine the long term effects of drug dependence, killing (whether abortion or euthanasia), and sex changes have on a person's mental state.

>>129972479
Lurk More faggot.

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>>129974074
LOL AHAHAHAHAHAHHA I knew I could get u by exposing all the right wing retard fake news memes u fell for.

Qualifying for Obamacare has nothing to do with how BLS tracks full time you fucking moron.

Obama job creation was 95% full time.

8 years of right wing retard talking points, u never thought once to actually pull up the jobs data?

What the fuck does Obamacare have to do with BLS u absolute fucking retard .

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>>129969589
Whoa.

>>129963819
No, he's just a normal liberal. The new liberal, the cultural marxist, is nothing like the liberal of old.

>>129966679
National Socialism is a far left wing ideology, economically speaking.

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>>129963581
Would you hang out and draw swastikas with me?

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>>129974074
>does not know who Obama leaf is.
>does not realize that you are more likely to find a black white supremacist on this board than to change Obama leaf's mind.

Lad.

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>>129974650
>hurr you're wrong because a politicized Jewish agency under a liberal said so
Well, they said it's true and they aren't lying, and the liberal media says to listen, so it must be true. I mean, they even have a chart, how could it possibly be a lie for political reasons?

>>129963581
Prepare to be redpilled.

>>129966679
>>129967332
>>129968336
>>129968971
>>129970411
>>129972122
>>129972602
>>129973029
>>129974074

>He fell for the nazi meme

Dont take /pol/ seriously retard

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>>129969849
>Has no idea that a large amount of us are degenerates

das it mane

>>129975658
Name a better ideology then.

>>129964808
I'm a classical liberal

>>129975809
Ideology is cancer

>>129963581
says his liberal views are not like other liberals - refuses to state them
asks us for our reaction
fuck off

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>>129975809
If you are looking for a prepackaged world view that will have all the right answers to all the questions you got, then you have already failed and will never not be a slave to someone's ideology.

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>>129975075
lol

>>129978947
saved

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>>129979221
95 posts btfo right wing retards

lol u think that hurts me?

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>>129975140
You believe scrutinized documents from Nazi Germany from the 1930s but the highly scrutinized BLS jobs reports magically became fake when a black man became president?

>>129979753
>UNscrutinized documents from Nazi Germany from the 1930s

>>129971476
I have heard that texas is becoming more liberal in general recently because of the white flight out of cali, thoughts?

What would your proposed policy be to deal with muslim immigration

What about critical theory marxists

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>>129979649
I love when you post retarded shit like this on /b/.
So hilarious famalam.

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>>129963581
> Your party shot a congressman?
You're insane

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>>129979649
Actually no. I am reasonably certain that you do not exist.

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>>129964808
>conservative

guess again untermensch

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>>129979902
I don't go on other boards.

>>129980295
You do understand that within the context of that meme you are the person hitting the button right?

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>>129980295
Lies kohai.

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>>129980399
WRONG

I'm counter-(((pol)))

>>129964808
There might be some conservatives, mixed in with the anarcho-capitalists, communists, paid Hillary shills, literal Nazis, and frog cultists. It's hard to tell who's joking.

>>129980484
(((pol))) is enough right wing retard autism for me

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>>129966727
>When you realize some liberal faggot spent the time sculpting a statue of Trump to make it look like he has a small dick

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>>129963581
>Definitions are based on my feels
You're a liberal, retarded, and/or schizophrenic. Fuck off.

>>129963581
That you're not actually a liberal, you just call yourself one because you want social acceptance without doing the hard work of conforming to the groupthink.

>>129963581
how old is your wifes son?

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>>129980657
BLASPHEMY!

>>129980847
>some liberal also spent the time painting this

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>>129980992
They are so obsessed with the size of everyone else's penises. Makes you wonder if they're trying to hide something.

>>129974765
Marxism is where liberalism came from

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>>129980773
I believe one of his ex-wives said he was packing... biggly.

If anyone knows the sauce, I'd appreciate it. I've been looking for it, and can't find it.

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>>129980847
Of course a Leaf just has this type of art handy.

>>129980595
What do you mean I'm wrong? Oh your software is malfunctioning. You will be reset soon. Don't worry about it.

>>129969589
Literally a fake quote

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>>129982319
lol u retards are fucked up

I am anti-(((pol)))

I believe in reality, facts, stats, information, data science.

All you retards have are InfoTards, ZeroBrain, fake news, and right wing retard autism

>>129982392
It's my quote, he just looked cooler so I gave him the credit.

>>129980773
I saw a picture of a guy who got a tattoo of Trump sucking a dick on his arm. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with these people

>>129964991
A FUCKING OBAMA LEAF

When i take political alignment test it always comes out neo-liberal.
Im a good liar and a sneak thief.
Art school girls give the beat head
My grandmother was a nazi
She raised me right since my mom was always popping pills
As a kid i tortured small animals
I dont desire that any more

>>129970804
Also, everyone in Europe was surprised that Hitler invaded Poland when he did because everyone saw their economy being torn apart with serious inflation and thought only a madman would actually try to invade another country at that point with an economy like that. However, the quick successful invasion helped to sustain the economy that Hitler built. If the invasion of Poland was held up even a little bit, it's very possible that the Third Reich's armies would have completely run out of ammunition and other basic supplies for their military.

>>129963581
You have never been more irrelevant

>>129973380
>>129971507
When socialists/communists say they hate "liberals," they just mean jackass establishment Democrats like Chuck Schumer or idpol people lacking any understanding of class. Socialists have historically been the biggest defenders of democracy, like how socialists were the biggest advocates for abolition and women's suffrage and secured the 8-hour workday as a standard in the West.

>>129963581
I consider myself a liberal and I voted Trump. Still, I get who /pol/ is referring to.

>>129966832
said by the guy in a wheelchair

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>>129982603
Sure you are. You've done more to keep /pol/ functioning than anybody. You are like the crazy aunt that drives everybody she goes into contact with to become an anti-feminist but she lacks to presence of mind to see a causal relation between her bullshit and the increase in anti-feminists that she encounters.

>>129963581
fake news?

>>129969192
Do you agree with Merkel's plan when she opened the borders and stopped checking paperwork and started handing out aid and telling every refugee to come and every 'economic migrant' and then said islam belonged to Germany?

>>129971476
Do you think stoning someone is equel to being an atheist?

>>129963581
then you are an alt right

>>129963581
it shouldn't be that uncommon, really. besides, liberals used to be the "cool" group like a decade ago

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>>129963581
I am jack's complete lack of surprise.

Ameribro's use Liberal to mean 'democrat voter' instead of what it really means: I like freedom.