Hey, look it hasn't collapsed on to it's foot print

Well, this one didn't had a plane fly into it.

>>129884029
It's also 1/5 as high and doesn't have a nuclear bomb exploding under it.

Well, this one wasn't entirely made out of bare steel.

>>129884180
Additionally I don't think that whatever was inside the house burns as hot as jet fuel

This one didn't have thermite charges in its support structure.

>>129884180
>>129884286
/thread

>>129884286
Jet fuel unironically can't melt steel beams tho

>>129884469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

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I guess it wasnt covered in thermite bombs by a Mossad crew pretending to be art students

>>129884029
Try running into with a 787

>>129884531
Oh yeah some random redneck can totally be trusted

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>>129884180
neither did wtc 7, bro

>>129884852
Oh yes he must have some kind of metallurgical lich powers which allows him to manipulate the physical properties of steel at will

Niggers and Muslims unironically burn less hot than jet fuel

>>129884852
Nice comeback to getting absolutely btfo'd

>>129884852

He's showung you in the video that once steel reaches high temperatures it loses almost all of it's structural rigidity. Jet fuel wouldn't need to melt the beams, just get them hot enough that they can no longer support the load of the building above them.

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>>129884180
>>129884702

>>129885191
Shhhh idiots can't into laws of thermodynamics

>>129884978
pretty much this

>>129885467
Looks like the windows are blasting out due to the building supports buckling

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>>129884029

Did a thread talking about 9/11 a little while back:

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>pour out gallons of gasoline in every floor from top to bottom in the middle of the night

>light a match when leaving the premises

hurr, we don't need no demolition crews in our pakiland durr

Anyway, it's all shit.

Gas the West, 3rd Reich now

>>129884978
It had massive chunks of the WTC towers fall into it

>>129886031
Yes all the building supports simultaneously gave way from fire. Mainstream brainwashing still going strong.

>>129886435
Correct. That's why wtc7 was not even mentioned in the official investigation report.

>>129886435
>chunk falls on roof
>it collapses into it's blueprint completely decimated


good goy

>>129884029
Trump said 9/11 was done with bombs, not planes

Check his interview right after the attack

>>129886435
if you know anything about the official story then you would (((know))) that it was fire that was the cause not the debris.

Alos Barry jennings was in the building and reports that there was a explosion in the stairwell of WTC7 BEFORE the twin towers collapsed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVyRgor0fAM

>>129886435
No Goy? There was plenty of other buildings that had loads up debris fall on them and they diidn't collapse.

>>129884531
but how did the jet fuel get to the btton of the tower?

>>129886649
Thats where your wrong kiddo NIST did look into WTC7...

>>129886954
>if you know anything about the official story then you would (((know))) that it was fire that was the cause not the debris.

I would imagine it would be a combination of the two, just like the twin towers. First something rams into the thing and then the fire further weakens it

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Yes. A 27 story apartment bulding is the same as two of the tallest buildings in the world that hard large jets fly into them.

>>129887051
From a plane

This bullshit needs to be a permaban. Take it to /x/ you fucking nutjob.

>>129884029

https://youtu.be/TJNzaMRsN00?t=607

>there are people on /pol/ who think 9/11 was an unironic terrorist attack

>>129887175
7 yeas later in a separate document?

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>>129884185
>nuclear reaction under it
Hey you can't prove that

>>129887349
Serious question, why do you deny so hard that there could have been more to it than just the narrative?

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>>129884180
/thread

>>129884531
Now can he do that to a steel beam 100x that size? Don't think so

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>>129884029
pic related

>2 out of 6 chlidren
>6 children
>S I X C H I L D R E N

this is why we fucking loose

>>129887478

Da gubment wouldn't lie to us about that! Iraq had wmds also!

Different fuel, dick head

>>129887232
No the official account is that fire weakened 1 support beam and that 1 support beam failing cause a freefall collapse of the whole building. They used a simulation model to reproduce the collapse as best possible but refuse to release the maths used in that model. If they would want to shut us "truthers" up is release the data and if it checks out a majority of us will shut up.

But they won't because they know its a load of BS

ITT; People with high school educations at the most disagree with dozens of expert testimony collected over a decade of research

Can you rednecks just go back to huffing gasoline?

>>129884029
9/11 was a false flag assault on American Liberty

>>129888134
how many support beans were ther?

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>>129886954
I don't believe this bullshit about "inside jobs" and "conspiracies". This is from Alex Jones.

It's really fucking interesting, but are there documentaries about the specifics from a rational point of view? I know the truth about the twin towers, but I'd like a little more detail on WT7.

>>129888275
>he fell for the jew trade center

>>129888285
That malignant cancer was used to assault individual liberties all over the world, I know it's hard to see outside the center of the universe sometimes due to the sheer mass and centrifugal forces.

>>129888468
I don't really get that explosion angle that he's talking about in the video. If you're taking down a building with explosives, it's going to come down at the point when you actually blow up the structural beams. You don't explode something and then it sits there for another six hours, so that doesn't make any sense to me

>>129884978
No it just had a huge chunk of one of the world's largest buildings fall on top of it
Also the Jew owner of WTC 7 who built the thing had them cut corners like crazy. People constantly complained about the strange noises the building would make(that we're results of shit being built terribly)
You fucks never have a clue about architecture yet always want to cite it as being the source of why it was fake
Retards

>>129887730
What, soften it?

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>>129884029
wtf happened, london is fucked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Es-PRMAg0

>>129888468

I would recommend watching 9/11 New pearl harbor it mainly focuses on facts and has very little speculation. The WTC7 part starts at around 4:45:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M

>>129884029
Isn't there a lot of other things that haven't been released? Things like cctv of the hijackers bording the plane and black box recordings.

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>>129887992
We need to kill muslim women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Es-PRMAg0

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Newfag here. Questioning WT7 is probably the most legit conspiracy going. Trying to prove the offical story is comical. And to the see this amount of JTRIGgering against questioners should tell you something. You catch the most flak when you're over the target.

>>129889012
my bad i meant 4:35:00 not 4:45:00

>>129886954
Everyone that reported hearing explosions that day has been proven to be full of shit
Also when was the last time you EVER heard a witness tell the exact truth in say gun violence?
Witnesses cannot be used as evidence we've proven time and again in criminal cases that they are unreliable. Video evidence (which we have fucktons of) gives us all the info we need

How many people died in this incident and were they all kebab?

>>129884852
>A fucking Leaf

>>129889098
I think it's the Pentagon. Where was the ultra hot burning jet fuel there? Barely any fire damage or debris. No good footage, local security camera footage confiscated.

Pentagon was bombed or hit by like a small tow missle.

>>129884286
well meme'd

>>129887651
For his comfort of mind.

>>129884029
A fully loaded, fully fueled 767 flying at 500 mph didn't fly into it right?
Fucking bong education system..

>>129889236
Yes experienced firefighters have no idea what an explosion sounds like.

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>>129889012
I don't want conspiracy bullshit.
The amount of effort required to maintain a conspiracy of that size alone disproves itself.

Just watching a few minutes of it, and the narrator immediately goes on about how "news organizations were told ahead of time what buildings were going to go down". Give me a fucking break.

>>129887730
Are you retarded?

>>129887346
there is enough jet fuel in a plane to burn 400 mts of steel to 800 degrees??

>>129887992
Hey, wutcha doing there miss? Why do you have a bomb, that could hurt your kids.

>>129888891
Dam now that was good 10/10

>>129887051
The collapse occured from the MIDDLE, not from the bottom up. Also, freefall theory is high Discordian faggotry (just like the rest of this shit.) Proof? The debris from the top of the buildings, which is falling at freefall speed because it is not connected to anything falls much faster than the towers. Ya'lls is some dumb fucking tards, I'll tell you.

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>>129889098
When I read the official report, apparently the building was old as hell. It was originally much smaller, and built in the 1800s. There was poor fire code rules, and sprinkers had a single point of failure.

I'm interested in videos of this, though. It sounds really interesting.

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Does anyone know if he made it out okay?

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>>129888891
I believe this. Are there documentaries and shit about this specific story?

>>129884557
This image triggers my autism. Even if they did melt, he would have molten steel all over him.

>>129887730
Yeah, because steel has a very bad thermal conductivity! Do you ever get tired of being retarded?

>>129887719
>only six dead
what a shitty happening

the jews used the absolute minimum amount of steel which got hot, lost its strength, and caused the floors to cascade into each other

the real coverup is how shitty those buildings were made

The towers collapsing are symbolic of America's decline and the reaction to that has been to compenstate by spouting various theories about how thermite charges were placed in the building, jet fuel can't melt steel beams etc. You need to understand prior to 9/11, the general public was sold a lie that the towers were indestructible and they were used by the media as a symbol of supposed US superiority when in fact they represented what the US had become after the golden age of the 50's and mid 60's, a society that valued the exploitation of others by any means and the worship of money and consumerism symbolised no more than the shoddy construction of the buildings and the poor safety standards imposed so as the owners could maximise their profits and the ongoing poor maintainance to further fuel the greed that had infected American society and then on Sept 11 2001, the unthinkable occurred, the narrative collapsed. The towers that were meant to never collapse, collapsed just over 1 hour after being struck and the towers collapsing like a house of cards synbolised the collapse of the narrative the people of the United States had been led to believe from the time they were completed to the time they collapsed. One only needs to imagine what the narrative would have been if the towers never collapsed.

>>129889909
if you want something like the first video i posted look into william rodriguez. He worked in the towers as a janitor and his account of events is interesting. In his account of things there was a explosion in the basement before the plane hit the tower. He went on to save many firefighters lives.

>>129889981
Yes. There was enough jet fuel to carry a fully-loaded passenger plane across the Atlantic. That takes an enormous amount of energy in the form of fuel. The WTC were some of the the first balloon-style towers constructed, composed of a strong inner core connected to supports forming the outer walls by loooooong steel girders. The OP's tower is conventional cement slab construction with supports throughout. The WTC was built to withstand a hit by a 707 going about 350 mph. A 787 going more than 500 mph carries roughly 20x as much kinetic force. BTW, I know you truthfags are zombies; this is for the intellectually-honest onlooker trying to make up his mind.

http://www.ae911truth.org/38-home-posts/78-education.html

>>129890377
I heard it talked about once in a podcast and watched it in one investigative documentary(the strange noises part) but that was in like 2010 since I learned a long time ago that this much steel beams crap is bullshit
You look around enough you'll find it though, made the rounds in like '08 I think

https://www.youtube.com/embed/n5ZRfxpXvIQ?autoplay=1&hd=1&rel=0

>>129888891

Tell me about this jew? I assume he is in prison now?

>nu/pol/ unironically thinks it's possible for a steel framed skyscraper to collapse uniformly into its own footprint at free fall speed because of an office fire
I want reddit to go back

>>129892179
Shut it Jamal.

>>129891375
Ok thanks.

>>129892179
you have to go back!

>>129892179
None of that even happened, faggot. They fell all over the fucking road, and some portions of the buildings held out for more than 25 seconds before falling down.

>>129890914
You're not going to prove or disprove anything with eyewitness testimony. If people wont listen to the expert meta-analysis of 2,700 architects and engineers they're not going to have a mind-changing epiphany from a single janitor lol.

>>129884286
>Thinks jet fuel melts steel

Also, just for the sake of argument, it's important to note that the north face of WT7 collapsed due to fire more than an hour before the south face. They must have used REALLY controlled demolition there. And what about WTC2? It fell down as well, but nobody even talks about that at all!

>>129893105
It HEATS steel, you absolute fucking nob.

>>129892949
Its funny because we're only talking about one of the inconsistencies of 9/11. I also suggested the janitor because he seemed interested in barry jennings eyewitness account.

He seems to have newspeak effect his mind where anything "conspiracy" related automatically shuts down his brain.

>>129893506
it's the pavlovian/skinnerian programming

>>129892676
no
>>129893106
literally none of that happened you absolute retard
also wtc2 is the south tower you mongoloid

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>>129884029
>Ambulances and fire trucks filled the streets around the building, which is located in a diverse, working-class area of London. People who live nearby were evacuated, some carrying pets in their arms as they left. Volunteers handed out bottled water.

CBC just can't drop the fucking diversity thing for a minute. Who gives a shit how diverse the people burning alive are.

>>129884180
>>129885467
BTFO!

>>129893914
>admittedly a superfaggot for typing "wtc2" instead of "wtc3"
Oops.

>>129889073
My doggo must be fuckin' WOKE.

>>129884029
Without making this all about me, is nobody going to include anything about how snakes are bad?

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>>129887026
A huge chunk of the Marriot next door was destroyed when debris hit it.

>b-but debris can't make buildings collapse

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>>129894153
france makes smokin hot women :^)

>>129894788
But it didn't collapse. The parts of the building hit by the debris were destroyed, but the rest of the building remained despite this massive damage.

>>129894788
And yet it didnt colapse

>>129884978
Actually I thought it was:

1) The WTC collapses
2) Debris ends up shooting out the bottom floor due to the collapse onto its footprint
3) Debris shoots across the street (see damage to parked cars, places on all sides)
4) Debris shoots across the street into the bottom floor of Building 7
5) Below the ground floor there were 4 tanks holding 3600 pounds of fuel.
6) The building also had another tank with 1000 pounds of fuel powering the 23rd floor.
7) Fire spread up throughout the building pretty rapidly thanks to this system, and internally the structural integrity was deteriorated over a long period of time. The building received little to no fire attention thanks to the fires being hidden from the exterior.
8) Sufficient time passes by.
9) The whole building has now had uniform weakening across all floors.
10) Collapse

>World Trade center were empty tubes.
>Brit building is like a solid Lego structure.

>>129895361
>>129895406
well it didn't get hit by a plane and covered in jet fuel.

didn't have offices of SEC,FBI, NSA etc in it either.

>>129884180
building 7

>>129887719
is this the same apartment block from 27 days later

>>129895630
Just how much jet fuel was there? All the different accounts in this thread make it sound like there was enough jet fuel to saturate the entire building.

>>129895630
yes... and neither did WTC 7 which you are making arguments for you braindead sack of shit

>>129895477
this is pure autism
>4) Debris shoots across the street into the bottom floor of Building 7
this isn't a fucking comic book you retard

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>>129895630
just like WTC7. I wonder how jewish you are

>>129895951
Jet fuel can't melt hijackers passports, but can melt steel beams, apparently.

>>129895951
>>129895951
>>129895951

see:

>>129895477
>>129895477
>>129895477

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>>129890909
Hey Shlomo watcha doing?

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>>129895361
>>129895406
Do you fucking retards think the debris came down in an even circular cascade? No wonder poles are known for their shitty building practices, you're literal fucking retards.

>>129890686

It's 57 now. Turn on CNN

>>129896156
not at all.

i was using irony and sarcasm

controlled demolition, Israel did it, end of fucking story.

You'd have to be a fucking retard to think anything else.

Does that make my position clear?

>>129896373
And you think it did for building 7?

>>129884978
You're so easily fooled. I bet you also voted for Trump

>>129896115
>1,792′ building collapses
>thinks it's IMPOSSIBLE for things to have enough kinetic energy to travel 300 feet.

>>129896227
>Below the ground floor there were 4 tanks holding 3600 pounds of fuel.
>Fire spread up throughout the building pretty rapidly thanks to this system
>still no fire
>>129885467

>>129886684
originally they claimed they 'pulled it' as in demolished it

but that story has since been retracted, because then it makes people ask how the building was already ready to be brought down

>>129896476
Thank you. Another soul saved

>>129896549
>smoke
>"no fire"

okay

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oh nooooooooo

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>>129886435

O really?

>>129887026
Deutchbank was also destroyed. Durrrrrr.

>>129896603
kid i have been naming the Jew since before 2001, it's not my soul needed saving.

>>129896533
this stupid even for a 9/11 conspiracy thread
jesus christ you're incredible

>>129896766

They cleaned it up you fucking idiot

>>129896742
literally smiling

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>>129884029

ISIS's twitter account claim responsibility yet?

>>129896905
what's one more coincidence really?

>>129884029
If you saw the mangled steel beams in person, you may realize that demo work is a little more efficient.

>>129896742
kek

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W-WELL.
YOU'RE GAY!

HAHA!

LOOK AT THE GAY ENGLISHBOY, HUHUH!

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>>129896719
>smoke
>building collapses
not okay

>>129896932
You mean Rita Katz's twitter account?

>>129896742
...he smiles...

It won't be long until it grows its skin back

>>129897104
he is horrified

>>129884029
why havent fire rescue attempted to put out the fire?

>everyone in this thread:
>freak accidents NEVER happen
>things with small probabilities NEVER happen. that's how statistics work.
>NO ONE wins the lottery

>>129884029
DM commenter. Fuck off.

>>129897104
you don't see the obvious pain on the man's face? his british pride has been torn

>>129897036
If you seens the concrete and steel fused together you may realise that a building collapse would not cause this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uju2he8Rqs4

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>>129884180
In addition to earthquakes, hurricanes and other natural disasters, skyscrapers are built to withstand air collisions.

>>129884029
>try to burn your building down so you can rebuild it for rich people
>no jet fuel to melt steel beams
>have to renovate building for muslims and nigs now

>>129892091
nope, 9/10 of the jews are the 1% of the rich

>>129896917

What? The claim was that the ruble from the twin towers fell on WTC-7 causing office fires which then buckled the steel beams, Why am I a "fucking idiot" (nice argument btw) for showing an image that makes it physically improbable for debris from the twin towers to some how make it across the entire street but not damage other buildings right next to the twin towers? Of course, you probably believe I intended for the image to show that there were no ruble, but this is not the point of my image. Clearly you are the real idiot for making that misunderstanding.

>>129897425
does anyone actually fucking have the source on the molecular analysis performed on this shit

>>129897292
>trust me goy, the improbable and the physically impossible are the SAME thing

>>129886378
the 3rd reich already happened you fucking tard.

>>129896115
You're an idiot. You obviously didn't walk down canal St a month later and see all the mangled steal from the towers that ended up protruding out of nearby buildings.

Eye witness here.
I'm sorry to blow your whole view up with just a little post.

>>129896766
The dozens of other buildings around the WTC had debris repellent coated on them, duh.

>>129898035
>Eye witness here.
kek

>no photos

>>129897512

You faggots realize that since it was NOT a controlled demolition the debris around the collapse was not uniform. WOW it's almost as if a fucking plane crashed into and the forces were biased towards a random direction. What direction? WTC 7. yeah it's fucking crazy but real life has crazy shit. that doesn't make it impossible.

>>129884469
Doesn't need to melt. Just weaken the structure until it doesn't hold it's own weight.

>>129898119
I don't trust niggers flying that flag

>>129898115
Yeah because I took photos of the place where I had friends die so I could look back at them so fondly some day.

>>129898273
>the lampshades were just so horrifying and sickening i blocked them out of my mind forever and can never remember them. i will never foreget

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>>129884978
>tfw you just know 9/11 will be debated for fucking decades like people still obsess over the sinking of the Titanic.

>>129887992
That's just a temporary setback in her production of gibsdemanders. Imagine having 8 people in a flat apartment. Oh wait they just kick the children out onto the street to mug people at the ripe age of 10

>>129884180
wew, lad

Check out this click bait vid at 2:48
Pancake theory eternally BTFO

https://youtu.be/ofvWWp_Pi88?t=2m48s

eye witness here

when the debris fell, it was like a tidal wave of concrete and molten steel crashing onto the street. a first responder jewish fireman- big strong man as large as a bear!- grabbed me and hoisted me up in the air over his head! He died standing proudly as the concrete and metal swept him away, and all that was left of him were the hands that held me above the wave. still on my back.

I lost so many friends that day

>>129898392
>tfw not 1 person debating sources the official investigation because its a bunch of BS.

>>129884029

No plane impact, no other building dropping chunks of itself at terminal velocity on it either.

no one cares about 9/11 anymore you inbred rural suburban DRUMPFKINS

>>129898857
Neva forget

>>129899151
Not really worth investigating a television hoax.

>>129897690
Ayo, Hol up.

You suggestin theirs was energy weapons and shiet?

>>129899359
more like thermite

>>129899151
nice try agent smith

the activity on 9/11 threads today show pretty clearly lots of people still care deeply about 9/11.

>>129899473
nah, honky. Deys dustified dat building using dem John Hutchinson energy weapons and shieet, son.

>>129898350
Nice try but I actually did remember the beams because I'm the one that brought it up first, idiot.

>>129893506
No, what this guy said >>129892949

People who actually have degrees and jobs in this profession have dedicated parts of their lives discovering and explaining how this happened.
A couple blokes who saw and heard something unusual doesn't suddenly disprove vast volumes of physics.

>>129899920
This dude knows what's up. I'm not used to seeing people who use critical thinking here on /pol/

>>129895361
>>129895406
Do you see how the debris hit it? it tore out most of the middle part. The building isn't even as tall either.

>>129895477
>4) Debris shoots across the street into the bottom floor of Building 7
Shit that actually makes sense. A skyscraper doesn't totally turn into dust.

>>129899920
What vast volumes of physics? NIST won't release the data they used for these models for independent professionals because it's a bunch of shit. If NIST would just release the math they used for these models then the truther community would shut up if it checked out.

Also professionals "truthers" dedicated their lives to make sure NIST would correct their reports that the towers fell at freefall speed and are still not happy with the investigation.

>>129884029
Much better. In America even high rises are built out of wood.

>>129900882
>NIST won't release the data they used for these models for independent professionals because it's a bunch of shit.
Is NIST in the habit of handing out all their work. I don't know, is it their standard operating procedure?

Wasn't all the data they collected placed into the 9/11 report?

>If NIST would just release the math they used for these models then the truther community would shut up if it checked out.
No they wouldn't.
Just because we brought back samples of rock and left instruments on the moon doesn't stop people from denying the moon landings.
Conspiracy theorists exist for the conspiracy, not the truth.

uk shall suffer for sins against allah!

>>129900882
>>129901429
Also, a cursory search on Youtube shows that quite a few Universities conducted and released their independent research on the buildings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH02Eh44yUg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gui_ATdfHx4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzInIjD6nKw

I'm not seeing "controlled demolition" computer simulations.
Just stupid people showing side-by-sides of the WTC collapsing with actual controlled demolitions. That's not science.

>>129902070
Science is JEWS, goy.

>>129901429
NIST was hired by the government to investigate what happened on 9/11. All NIST did was rubber stamp the official story and had to change it a few times. Remember the pancake theory that was pushed so hard? well it's a load of shit admitted by NIST.

If you ask NIST what the physics behind the twin towers collapse you will find their answer will be something along the lines of we did not investigate the tower collapse, they just investigated what lead up to the collapse of the twin towers. There is no official account of the physics on how the top section of the towers has enough energy to free fall while demolishing everything below it.

They addressed WTC7 with a computer model but refuse to release the physics they used for people to independently verified. If your happy with the official investigation your a brainwashed tool.

>>129902350
Inshallah, reality is a social construct

>>129884029
yep we build them strong so we can fill them with muzzies and torch the cunts then we refurb the place and do it again
its slow work but its also gods work

>>129884469
THERE ARE INTERMEDIATE STATES BETWEEN SOLID AND LIQUID YOU FUCKING RETARD.

>>129902070
I hope you are paid to do this or else your are one blind mofo

>>129902462
you forgot the oppressive patriarchal bit.

>>129902070
Why the fuck would you need a model to prove that a building can be brought down by controlled demolition. Get a brain.

>>129893105

I question your ability to detect irony.

>>129902412
>Remember the pancake theory
What, that collapsing floors have a cascading effect?

Maybe NIST did a shit job. Is the alternative believing something entirely crazy?
If they did a shit job, I think there's still a logical explanation.

>If your happy with the official investigation your a brainwashed tool.
So the alternative is believing that Bush commandeered Thermite all around the buildings, informed the media of the event, and maximized damage so he could go to war in the Middle East?
Seems like it'd be a little simpler to just go to war first, and come up with a reason later. Sort of like how every other nation on the planet has successfully done to justify petty wars.

>>129902982
>Get a brain.
>Doesn't care about the scientific method
Like pottery.

>>129902841
Well, do you have controlled demolition simulations?
I certainly don't have the time to rebuild the entire tower accurately in a computer, alter the physical conditions, and test how it behaves.

>>129902841
this

can only be one of those options

>>129889475
>why was the security footage of the most important and secretive place in america confiscated?!!?

>>129884180
Fpbp

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>>129896190
THIS

Is not even needed to discuss other things than the ultra stupid fact that they FOUND THE FKING PASSPORTS INTACT!

The fucking pieces of paper survided the whole of jet fuel on them in the Pensylvania crash.

>>129887175
Ow yea that computer model. Where the data used is classified.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA&ytbChannel=purgatoryironworks

>>129903657
R U SRS?

you just BTFO yourself

>>129903853
I though American education was the only bad one.
Protip: buildings are not designed to be held up by noodly steel.

>>129891337
>The WTC was built to withstand a hit by a 707 going about 350 mph
Learn something new everyday.

>>129898119
>it was NOT a controlled demolition

stopped reading there

>>129901429
>Conspiracy theorists exist for the conspiracy, not the truth.

seek truth in the conspiracy, because conspirators lie

>>129894945
You will pay for Jeanne
Je suis Jeanne

>>129903191
>Seems like it'd be a little simpler to just go to war first, and come up with a reason later.

The public was against a war and would of been against the invasion if not for 9/11. Just like the American public was against entering WW2 until Pearl Harbor. Larry Silverstein purchased the towers just before 9/11 even though it was a bad investment due to the building being outdated and full of asbestos that needed to be removed which would of cost a shit ton. There was also a lot of bets put against the airlines involved showing foreknowledge of the attacks.

If you think that it is impossible that people can get corrupted by power and do god awful things i hope the day of the rope comes so i can see the look on peoples faces whose world views have been shattered

>>129904272
>because conspirators lie
Well if you start off on that foot, you'll never get anywhere useful.
It's almost like you start off at the conclusion, and then decide to find "evidence" that supports your conclusion that "conspirators lie"

>>129903970
Protip: Jet fuel in an open unforced fire can't make steel red hot let alone noodly.

The redneck in vid even admits he heated the steel hotter than jet fuel could have in a furnace.

it's a 1/2 piece of re-bar not a 2in thick 2 foot square box section

>>129884414
Hello? Is this Somalia?

>>129903516
Jet fuel only melts steel beams - not, and I repeat NOT passports. Passports are laminated in a steel beam alloy that makes it have triple the heat resistance of steel beams

>>129899914
same dude do you remember me being right there with you i totally was there too and arent making shit up on the spot to win some argument on the internet with all the proof im providing!

>>129884180
/thread

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>>129904495
>Conspirators tell the truth

>>129905360
kek

>>129901850
Please stop it Germany.

>>129884029
This isn't news. It's a sacrifice.

>>129904507
>What is an aluminum fire
You know the planes weren't made of balsa wood right?
You realize that a building isn't an open environment?

>>129904490
Now you're taking a tangent.
Sure the public may have not want to go to war.
Then, a couple retards, funded by the Saudis and radicalized by the Soviets since the 80s, launch the most successful terrorist attack to date. Nobody really took them seriously, and they got away with a lot of smaller previous terrorist attacks.

To jump from those event to "Bush put thermite in the Twin Towers, WTC7, and flew a tomahawk missile into the Pentagon" is ludacris.
The collusion required to pull just ONE of these off requires monumental effort. Bush certainly didn't sneak out of the White House at night and do it all alone either.

For the Twin Towers and WTC, you don't just slap some thermite on and call it a day. You analyse the structure of the building, place the thermite at several key points, then let it burn for a while.

To lanch a tomahawk, you have to get a Navy Ship or Submarine, since those are currently the only launch vehicles using them (yes, tests were done from aircraft).
You'd have to get past all our Early Warning Radar systems, or make them ALL collude with you.
And you have to hope that no one AT ALL get near enough to film it.

>>129884029

>Being an architect
>Laughing at idiots not able to distinguish between a steel and concrete structure.

>>129884029
>I guess British apartment blocks are better made than American offices and skyscrapers
Might make one think the Twin Towers fell for some other reason than being on fire.

>>129905468
>An argument
This is not objective analysis.
You don't start with "well I'm going to assume the other guy is in charge of an elaborate conspiracy" and work from there.
With that logic, the US designed AIDS to kill all africans. After all, if you start from that assumption, how else are your conclusions going to possibly differ?

>>129892363
Keep the terrorist faith

Actually, the building standards in the UK are completely different to the US, not saying that they are 'better' as such, just that if the twin towers had been built to British standards they would not have collapsed the way they did and most of the people on the upper floors would have been able to escape down through the lift shaft/stairwell

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Those horizontal spouts of debris really make you ponder.

>>129905796
Like JEWS, perhaps?

>>129905996
I'm larping with the flag
Fuck those sandniggers

>>129905996
We will kill you all

>>129905970
The ISIS'll figure it out

>>129906027
So does that debris falling faster than tje rest of the buildin. Almost as if it is falling at freefall speed and the rest of the building is not.

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>>129885467

>>129906167
Unlikely

>>129884978
So is there an explanation as to why someone would blow up a building when two others have already fallen?

>>129905692
oh this again, yawn.

the fires were out for an hour or more before the "collapse"

>>129906179
God bless manchester attack

>>129906244
That webm is a JEW.

These are all proxy flags

Saved

>>129906263
Yes likely, i have a hammer to do it

>>129905692
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqqelDq4P48
On the tenth anniversary of the Attacks of September 11th, 2001, expert witnesses gathered at Ryerson University in Toronto, Canada to provide evidence-based research that called into question the official story of 9/11. This was known as The Toronto Hearings on 9/11.

Over a period of four days, these experts in Structural Engineering, Physics, Chemistry, and History gave researched and professional testimony to an international panel of distinguished judges. The panel of judges, in conjunction with the steering committee would go on to publish their final analysis of the evidence provided, which called for a new investigation into the Attacks of September 11th, 2001.

>>129906429
We took that shit down retard

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>>129906299
>Aussie

>>129906524
not an argument

>>129906429
Cool. Maybe NIST really did a shit job at analyzing the event.

Come up with valid structural analysis like >>129906244 before peddling bullshit.

>>129906634
oh Agent Smith

you are just looking sad and desperate

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>>129885008

>>129884978
>tfw some people on this board still think this wasn't an inside job

>>129906404
I don't think so.

Hammers are banned in the UK

>>129907447
>Have some manners
>Bin that hammer

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>>129887730

The nigger will figure it out

The nigger will figure it out

>>129886435
>massive chunks
Only in (((hollywood))) movies. In all videos you can see it's almost intact. Accept the truth already goy, WTC 7 was meant to be hit by the fourth plane but the unexpected fire set off the charges.

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>>129886191
Go home, Frank.

>>129907647
>massive chunks
>fake
Tell me, was this doctored too?: https://youtu.be/vzInIjD6nKw?t=3m40s

>>129897690
https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf

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Brexit Brexit Brexit Brexit Brexit Brexit Brexit Brexit

Now we're gonna kill you and send you to the void

>>129891337
It was a 767, not a 787. The two are very different.

>>129884286
jet fuel unironically burns at lower temperatures than most solid combustibles...

Is it true that the fridge that exploded had been radicalized by ISIS?

>>129892179
>Free fall speed
>Debris hits the ground before the tower

>>129891337
Too bad you're fucking wrong. Uncontained jet fuel burns almost instantly. It needs to be carefully and slowly fed through fuel tubes into the engines to work.

>pour jet fuel into a bucket
>drop match
>entire bucket will go up in super hot flames for about 5 seconds then completely die out

So while there was a lot of jet fuel, it ALL burnt out within SECONDS. Any fires AFTER the initial explosion were NORMAL fires that can not burn hot or long enough to melt or even weaken structural grade steel.

Can you tell me if 5 seconds of a few thousand degrees is going to weaken structural steel beams enough to cause 13 floors to collapse an entire building of 97 structurally sound floors?

No, you can't, because it's impossible for a 5 second (max) jet fuel burn to weaken structural steel, and its impossible for 13 floors to collapse 97 structurally sound floors.

The support columns in the basement of the buildings were destroyed and thats why the buildings fell. It was a controlled demolition.

You're goddamn fucking retarded and I absolutely hate lying kikes like you.

>>129906429
>>129905692
>>129904507
In addition, it would be awesome if someone could confirm these for me:
-Buildings were empty for a whole day(probably weekend) due to an "inspection" of some sorts just a few days before 9/11.
-There were only four F-16's in range (two teams), the rest of them were on a drill in Canada.
-FAA (or UAF, I'm not sure) was practicing for an exact situation that morning so they were unable to distinguish between real and fictive targets.
-Pilot that struck Pentagon performed a perfect diving loop which was impossible even for some experienced pilots and struck the office where an investigation into Donald Rumsfeld (was he the one that said: "We need a new Pearl Harbor to achieve these(talking about goals listed in PNAC)"?) embezzling some large amounts of money was ongoing (announced the day before)
-Official flight statistics are bullshit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXA-enq65ng

Heard of these things in various docs, apparently these are all "facts" stated in the commissionary report which I'm to lazy to read.

>>129908183
that's a fridgophobic lie

#NotAllFridges

>>129884463
this
/thread

>>129908387
all true.

>>129897690
>>129908032
Fake.
TL;DR, there were metal droplets.
Paper confirms there were metal droplets. Points out that thermite creates metal droplets.

Then proceeds to say, metal droplets = thermite.

>>129887051
i lost

>>129908568
Would love to hear your explanation for the metal spheres in the dust and how steel and concrete can fuse together after the building collapses

>>129908362
>Pour jet fuel in a bucket
>Drop match in
>Fuel ignites
-t. doesn't know anything about jet fuel and thinks it's the same as gasoline.

>>129886684
How did
>massive chunks
become
>a chunk

or are you just dumb.

>>129909010
and the pool of molten metal in the basement that stayed hot for months afterwards

>>129886435
Yes, good goy!

>>129908387
>Buildings were empty for a whole day(probably weekend) due to an "inspection" of some sorts just a few days before 9/11.
What buildings? There were quite a lot of deaths in the Twin Towers. WTC 7 was structurally unstable for decades, and this was even mentioned in the official report.

>There were only four F-16's in range (two teams), the rest of them were on a drill in Canada.
As an American, I can confirm that they don't patrol the place like a warzone.
>the rest of them were on a drill in Canada.
On an event like Red Flag?

>FAA (or UAF, I'm not sure) was practicing for an exact situation that morning so they were unable to distinguish between real and fictive targets.
a) Source?
b) There's drills of all sorts at all times. Just a couple weeks ago, the local police practiced an active shooter event at my campus, which is a pretty large one. It took most of the day.

>Pilot that struck Pentagon performed a perfect diving loop which was impossible even for some experienced pilots and struck the office where an investigation into Donald Rumsfeld (was he the one that said: "We need a new Pearl Harbor to achieve these(talking about goals listed in PNAC)"?) embezzling some large amounts of money was ongoing (announced the day before)
What? Source? The hole is nearly horizontal, not vertical.

>>129886563
that's not what he meant
what he meant was the building supports buckling as the building fell.

>>129884029
We Brits like to light bonfires.


Especially if there's Kebab in the bonfire.

To be fair WTC Building 7 was rigged with explosives.

>>129909444
Or G*rms

>>129909010
Wild guess here, but from what I can tell the buildings were heavy.
This might sound crazy, but millions of tons of heavy materials don't settle super peacefully. They may occasionally get sort of hot.

>>129909308
Don't you get tired of being a lone voice fighting against the inevitable tide of truth and history agent Smith?

is what they pay you worth it?

must be a soul destroying job.

>>129909485
As were the other buildings.

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>>129909610
Naw, I like sometimes getting down in the mud with the retards.
I'm not even paid, it's therapeutic to argue with such idiots. It's probably just like the people who watch Honey Boo Boo. When you see such abysmal failures at humanity, you feel sort of superior.

>>129909591
Your right is does sound crazy its almost as if your doing mental gymnastics to fit your narrative.

>>129909444
Dick, kebab wasfirst to the scenceback form prayer, they first responders

wtf i love muslims now

also ur a faggot and not british, nice flag Australia/Canada/USA/Argi

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGbrFmPBV0Y

/TХPEAД

>>129909907
Wait, you've got contradictory evidence that millions of tons of shit collapses with cool temperatures? Burning buildings aren't actually that hot after all? Aluminum doesn't melt at the temperatures of the jet fuel?

>be /pol/
>believe every conspiracy ever
>the jews are behind it all!

>9/11
>actually conspiracy supported by hard evidence
>/pol/ believes 3 buildings collapse in nearly free fall speed from office fires
>/pol/ actually believes the official version

i just dont understand you guys

>>129909893
nice try agent smith

>>129910329
there are agents and shills and normie invaders here as well as the woke.

>>129910113
You come up with some crazy theory with no evidence and want me to provide you with evidence to contradict your retarded claim?

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>>129910921

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>>129903516
Of course they did. The passports are light and didn't get caught in the fire.

And they were damaged.

>>129911315
Aren't they also made of material that's flame retardant? Mine's almost a weird plastic material.

>>129910058

I think this poster is onto something. What if the twin towers never existed at all? What if they were just a giant hologram projection. They could make it look like anything blew them up. God dammit Bush why you so smart, you rused us all.

>>129911315
and someone just found it, but it took weeks to find the black boxes which were so badly damaged they couldn't be read?

>>129906027
Pancaking, remember?
If you clap your hands in front of your face, you can feel the air come out the side.

>>129909029
Why yes, jet fuel is quite flammable.The flash point temperature of common jet fuels is around 100 degrees F.

A typical match burns from 1600-2900 degrees F.

So...yeah.

>>129911605
if you put your head up your arse you can feel your farts come out past your ears.

>>129907647
No, it was headed to the Capitol (or the White House, we'll never know for sure because it crashed before making it)

>>129911580
>implying that paper falls at the same rate as a metal box
Weren't the black boxes thrown from the wreckage? How far away were they? Was the passport near the wreckage?

>>129909010
source on that second one

>>129909168
source

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>>129911835
Excellent point, might have to put that in the second, fixed 9/11 commision.

>>129898185
That's not the point. Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel, and yet all the steel was melted, seven minutes before the destruction of the South Tower, a flow of molten metal appeared. The clean up.crew described rivers of molten metal, and it stayed liquid metal for weeks, satellite thermal imagery still showed temperatures hotter than needed to melt steel a week after. Considering that jet fuel can't melt steel, infact lamp oil burns hotter than jet fuel. So the question is how? That's what "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" means, it can't, and yet it did, apparently. No one is denying that hot metal is more bendy, not the point.

>>129910997
Its the other way around, you made the claim that somehow a collapsing building can fuse concrete and steel together and also create IRON spheres not aluminum. I need something better than you GUESSING materials don't settle super peacefully and it may get occasional hot.

>>129911949
you're the expert aren't you?

that a passport was found at all when the largest body parts found were a few cms in size is just ludicrous

>>129912027
>>129897425

>>129912138
>and yet all the steel was melted
The steel was not melted.

>a flow of molten metal appeared
True. There was another metal present, coincidentally close to the fuel. Some might say it was containing it.

>>129912286
I see Agent Smith has a gay partner

he knew he was losing badly so he called for help

when's the shift end guys?

>>129912153
>a collapsing building can fuse concrete and steel together
a) proof?
b) isn't that how buildings are built?
c) you don't "fuse" concrete with steel you absolute pleb. concrete is a mixture, not a uniform material

>and also create IRON spheres not aluminum
Proof?
You're the one flinging this shit at me.

>>129911652
I'm sorry, I didn't know you were actually retarded.
Brotip: Jet fuel/Kerosene/Diesel needs a proper fuel/air mixture to ignite. Such a mixture is hard to achieve if you just have fuel sitting in a bucket. If you can find it, mythbusters had an episode about the leaking gas tank + cigarette myth where they managed to put out a match with some Jet-A. There's also a video on youtube somewhere of somebody extinguishing a match with jet-a, but I can't find it.

>>129912211
>you're the expert aren't you?
Nah m8 you are. Got this under lockdown. Bush is secretly a demolitions expert.

>that a passport was found at all when the largest body parts found were a few cms in size is just ludicrous
>Such a bitch he doesn't watch the wreckage of other airliners
Are you afraid of the gore?
If you weren't you'd see plenty of personal belongings nearly intact. They're so light they get flung out of the explosion, and the speed will snuff out the flames. Books, toy animals, electronics, etc...

Man up and watch some aircraft disaster wreckage.

>>129912571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LeRSPuA5Z4
Somewhat similar demonstration with diesel, which is much closer to jet fuel than gas is.

>>129912571
9/11 is an effective iq test, if you accept the official story, you fail

>>129912571
Doesn't mean you can't ignite it still, jackass.

And the point remains during the impact on WTC the jet fuel would have burnt out within seconds. No high temperature burn to weaken the beams. Just a flash and then everything else is on fire, which is normal burning temperature.

>>129912982
Are you saying that you can drop a match into a bucket of jet-a and it's going to ignite?

>>129912868
It was Israel and you know it.

>>129912308
Correct, I misspoke.The point is still valid though.

>>129913099
it would depend on the ambient temp and how open and how full the bucket was

>>129912982
Nice, another quote to add to the revisionist 9/11 commission.

Q: Some people have said that Jet Fuel melts instantly. Professionals in the field have pointed out that it doesn't, and requires a proper fuel/air mixture.
A: 9/11 is an effective iq test, if you accept the official story, you fail

>>129913066
All I'm saying is that you're showing your ignorance by saying that you can drop a match into a bucket of jet fuel and it's going to explode into fire instantly. The reason that plane crashes usually involve a huge fireball is because the fuel gets atomized, which gives it enough air to ignite. You yourself can test this with a can of WD-40 and a lighter. Try spraying wd40 into the lighter with the straw attachment, and you're going to get much less fire and more unburned oil than if you did it without the straw.

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>>129913368
That's right.

>>129913383
In all honesty it depends on the specific fuel and the environment the bucket is in.

And while I was typing that I didn't even notice this gentleman
>>129913368
had basically stated that for me.

>>129913432
>he assumes the building can be accurately modeled as two block
>he ignores the common understanding that the bottom structure was collapsing, and the top was coming down for the ride