Redpill me on pic related fellow Italians. I may be able to vote

>>129863898

tinfoil cult owned by media company and comedian

>>129866172
>>>129863898 (OP)
>tinfoil cult owned by media company and comedian

Who fucking cares, as long as they keep their promises

>>129866452
they won't

>>129863898

>Anti immigration
They are not really anti-immigration.
They want to give 700 euros directly to all the immigrants, so they can pay stuff.
>Anti EU
Yes. Anti EU like tsipras.
They wanted to forma a coalition in eu parlamient with ALDE. That says everything about them.
>Pro internet freedom
Yes. Maybe. Who knows if they will change idea about that.
>Can actually win the election
True, but they do their best to lose it.

They are gatekeepers, fake opposition controlled by a society.
It is formed by useful idiots that will be kicked out if they don't do what is it useful for that society.
It's a business-party made by a businessman for his interests.

>>129863898
>Anti immigration
Pro immigration
>Anti EU
Mildly anti euro, not really anti EU
>Pro internet freedom
They don't give a fuck, they were startled by the whole fake news thing because 90% of the shit Grillo writes on his blog is fake news (nothing wrong with that)
>Can actually win the election
0% chance
tl;dr they're a left wing party that only exists to make sure right wing anti immigration parties don't win

>>129866452

They don't.
That's the problem. I'll vote for LN next elections, and fuck them all.
Fuck euro, fuck eu.

>>129866601
couldn't have said it better myself

>>129866452

they didn't, also you can't run a country on a click bait blog fcs

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>>129866703
>mfw things are so bad that the i'd consider voting LN even if i'm from central Italy

> M5S
> anti-immigration

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

dude just vote Lega Nord or Brothers of Italy

>>129866172
So Alessandro Joneso?

>>129866846

same here, at least by the time there will be GEs the immigration theme will be central and all partie cards will be on the table

>>129866846
>mfw things are so bad that the i'd consider voting LN even if i'm from central Italy

Same, I'm from Roma

>>129867181
i'm from north of Roma
i'd vote anything (except the commies) to stop PD and M5S from winning

>>129863898
One of the most important figures in the party, Di Battista, is a literal SJW
>Boko Haram kills people because we stole petrol to nigerians
>suicide bombing is justified by our invasion of their lands
>muh petrol is evil everywhere

>>129867064
>magic washballs instead of water filters
>chemtrails instead of fluoride turning the frogs gay
Shit i just noticed they're pretty much the same

>>129867330

grillo used to be funnier

>>129867307

MS5 is just a green party with a weird name

even in the EU parliament they caucaus with the greens

>>129867064
at least Alessandro Giovanni is entertaining

>>129863898
>anti immigration
absolutely no. Grillo said that we don't make kids so we MUST accept immigration
>anti EU
absolutely no. They used to be anti euro but now they dropped that and are pro euro
>pro internet freedom
there is no party that is for internet censorship in Italy. We are not britcucks
>can actually win the lection
No. Just look at the comunali results. They got crushed harder than PD.
If you really want to stop immigration + europeans meddling in our affairs vote lega, or if you are from the center/south and butthurt about lega than vote Fratelli d'Italia. The will make a coalition with center right and turn it far right (not that is needed, since even our center right is anti immigration)
>>129866452
votano sempre con il PD. Fatti due conti. In più guarda a Torino che voglio farla diventaru un hub per il banking islamico in Italia. Se credi davvero ai 5 stelle sei un pirla

>>129863898
They don't know what they are doing and as obvious they are no better than all other parties and seen by all the scandals in the last few years.

Welp, voting for lega nord then. Have they truly abandoned their secessionist intentions? The last thing I want is to balkanize italy.

>>129866703

Why do Italians always blame the EU for their problems?

Italy is a country that is stuck in the 60s when it comes to it's bureaucracy and economic policies.
It wasn't the EU that made you elect a buffoon who spent his government years fucking teenage girls for 20 years.
It also isn't the EU that makes your unions block every little reform.

>>129867553
a lega and fratelli d'italia coalition would make it a lot easier for me to vote for LN

>>129867662

secession not happening any time soon dude

if anything Spain will be the one splitting in the near future

>>129867662
Yes, they're federalists now

>>129867662
They only want economic autonomy now, but they are turning nationalistic

>>129867748

le butthurt german

>>129867662
they wouldn't get as many votes if they didn't

>>129866846
Se proprio votare lega ti fa cosi schifo almeno vota fratelli d'italia. Tanto finiscono per fare una coalizione. Per l'amor di dio non sprecare il voto dandolo ai 5 stelle, men che meno al PD

>>129867808
should just change the name to lega nazionale, i'd pop a boner that would pierce the roof

>>129867930
ma che oooooh
o voto lega o fratelli d'italia, per carità divina, il PD e 5 stelle devono bruciare

>>129867756
tanto finiscono per farla. Berlusconi incluso purtroppo, però se non altro avranno i numeri per governare.
La migliore speranza è una coalizione di centro destra a forte trazione lega/FDI

>>129868001
Lega Italica

>>129867662
They are for local autonomies, a decentrate state, not a complete secession (the "new" lega is more realistica and don't insult its electors like Bossi did)

>>129868219
è quello che spero, non è perfetto, ma minchia se è meglio di quello che rischiamo

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>>129867748
Because with pay a shitload and we don't get to ignore EU shitlaws like germany and france do, we're forced to take niggers in because otherwise we get fined and it the import/export laws destroyed any kind of trading we had.

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>>129868243
>Lega Italica
i approve

>>129868169
bravo. Perchè di genta che vuole fermare gli sbarchi e vota 5 stelle ne conosco fin troppa purtroppo

>>129868371
eh, appunto, so che intendi

>>129868243
they should just fuse with FdI if they were gonna do that

>>129867662

i voted m5s at the last GEs not because I thought they were any good but just hamper the PD, now I believe giving numbers to LN is the only way to make sure certain concerns are addressed.

but make no mistakes : they are corrupted and cialtroni as well as the others

>>129868371
Grillo l'ha detto esplicitamente anni fa "senza di noi arrivano i fascisti"

>>129868517
>but make no mistakes : they are corrupted and cialtroni as well as the others
we're italians, we don't just know it, we EXPECT it

>>129868001
>should just change the name to lega nazionale
Salvini wanted to change the name to just Lega.

>>129868597
eeeh just lega sounds a bit "meh", needs some more punch you know?
>>129868576
allora facesse la cosa giusta e si levasse dalla minchia

>>129868517
Almeno sanno governare, i grillini o sono ultracuck come la Appendino o non sanno fare un cazzo

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>>129863898
Is she doing a good job?

>>129868712

I agree, but still citofonare trota

>>129868813
she just said something about not wanting immigrants in Rome if i'm not mistaken
but do remember that she's part of 5 stelle

>>129868576
Possiamo solo sperare che arrivino. Non sono fascista, ma a questo punto un buon 5 anni di duce ci rimetterebbero in sesto. E sinceramente pur di fermare sta fiumana di merda umana che ci sta investendo voterei anche un partito dichiaratamente fascista. Non se ne può più

>>129869107
in teoria c'è un partito "fascista" ma ha le stesse possibilità di vincere che aveva ukip in inghilterra, quindi è un po' uno spreco di tempo

Give a quick rundown on Lega Nord and why central and south Italians don't vote for them.

>>129869280
anti-immigration, federalist, conservative, ethnonationalist, euroskepticist, anti-globalization.
basically /ourguys/, central and southern people feel a bit conflicted though because of their secessionist past.

>>129869214
eh lo so. Il "brand" del fascismo è rovinato oramai e difficilmente avrà una grossa trazione a livello nazionale
>>129869280
because for a good 20 years they used to be a strongly regionalist party that wanted to separate from central and southern Italy. They were our version of the confederates. Now they are turning to nationalism, but many people are still mad about it

>>129869464
They're no longer separatist? Why?

>>129869214
Ce ne sono 5-6, solo casapound e forza nuova arrivano allo 0.5% a volte

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>>129869464
>>129869587
That's the party Im voting for when I move to Italy then, Thanks.

>>129869608
because they wouldn't get any votes from the rest of Italy, they are federalists now, which is not too bad
>>129869587
già, o rivoluzione o niente fascismo, vabbè, l'importante è che vince la destra sta volta

>>129869214

>mfw I can understand this

Your language really is insanely close to French when it's written out

>>129869809
Federalist in the sense that they want more power to the regions? What are the key differences between LN and M5S?

>>129869775
we're counting on it
>>129869661
pensavo che solo forza nuova prendesse voti
>>129869905
we're all latins after all

>>129869280
Because when they was secessionist their preferred chant was "Vesuvius, Vesuvius, wash them with fire"

>>129870041
Casapound ha preso 5-10% in alcuni piccoli borghi alle comunali

>>129870007
i think so, imagine the USA or germany
and the difference between them is like that brooding smart kid that people didn't want to admit liking and the retarded kid drooling in the corner.
that's the difference between lega nord and M5S

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>>129870161
7% in Lucca

I guess that at the next Comics&games nazi cosplay will be hot

>>129863898
>fucking retarded
>can't into politics
>beppe is a fucking idiot and he's the one that controls all
>muh direct democracy through blog with rigged elections
>muh reddito di cittadinanza

The appeal was that they were thought to be not as corrupted as the others, but these last years outed them for the rats they are.

Salvini is objectively the only one that is not a commie, I will vote for him despite not liking many of his positions.

>>129863898
they faked the griefs to create a political party and they say that apollo11 is fake

>>129868813

She's not doing worse than PD in Rome

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>10,42%
10,42%
>10,42%
10,42%

>>129870519
>they say that apollo11 is fake
kekwat

>>129863898

5 star is the only way out and forth for Italy as far as I'm aware.

>>129871335
One of their senators is a zoophile tinfoil hat

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>>129870519
honestly i'm not surprised

>>129871392
then you are not properly aware of the situation

>>129871392
Good goy

>>129871392
wat

>>129866846
Sono un terrone di Napoli e voterò lega sicuro al 100% alle prossime elezioni

>>129871594
allora minchia se le cose vanno male se pure i napoletani vogliono votare lega

>>129871392
Fuck no. They are controlled opposition that only exists to stop anti immigration parties to get elected

>>129871678
Napoli è diventata in pratica colonia negra ormai

>>129872024
iniziate a fare i napoletani che crediamo voi siate e ammazzateli tutti allora

>>129871283
>tfw no fashy Italian gf

>>129872088
I numeri confermano ma
>implicando che i napoletani non userebbero i negri per spacciare droga.

>>129872088

Non ci crederai ma si è formata la "camorra negra" da anni.

>>129872363
Nì.

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>>129869775
>Immigrates to Country to vote against Immigration

>>129872585
Legal immigration is one thing, invasion is another, and if he has italian blood he's welcome here.

>>129872513
La mafia nigeriana è ovunque
Sempre meglio dei proto-jihadisti emiliani e lombardi

>>129872585
I'm assuming he has italian ancestry so he can get citizenship whenever he wants, he could vote without moving here technically

>>129872513
vabbè che vabbè ma mo davero davero ma che è sta storia?

M5S is full of bullshit
they gather voters from all over the spectrum because all they do is appeal to the disappointed
they don't have ideals, they don't agree on any real policy, all they can do is opposition
they'll never form a government and they don't even want to (otherwise they'd have already allied with some other party), all they want to do is keep making money for Casaleggio & co.

they're basically vultures, preying on the carcasse of the italian lower middle class

First of all , they abolished the crime of illegal immigration, are a bunch of people without a clue, not able to get a proper ideology, they fell down in the last elections of some day ago, their leader was a tv/cinema actor like jerry lewis, in summary: losers at all. VOTE FOR FASCIST PARTIES.

>>129872834
I nigeriani (quelli cristiani a sud) hanno delle mafie, le hanno esportate in Europa
Trattano soprattutto la prostituzione, è per questo che sono tutte nigeriane
Dio porco passo più tempo a fare i captcha che altro

>>129872834
Eh bello mio, hanno iniziato come "subordinati" della camorra, poi tra arresti e lotte fra clan si sono resi indipendenti e hanno fatto la voce grossa.
Si beccano gli spiccioli, ma sono pericolosissimi (hanno rituali cannibali, vodoo e mille minchiate varie e girano spesso con machete). Controllano soprattutto il campano disabitato (occupato da negri) e si occupano principalmente di spaccio e prostituzione.
Non c'è una negra per strada che non sia sotto il loro comando.

>>129872585
I have Italian ancestry, Plus Im spending thousounds to get all the documents and Im doing everything according to Italian law. So what's the problem exactly to vote for a party that is against uncontrolled immigration?

>>129873281
metti i captcha legacy, su "settings" in basso a destra e "quotes & replying"

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>>129873333
ma che caz


>checked comunque

>>129873436
Grazie Benito

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>>129873809
è un piacere

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>>129872810
>tfw I can get Italian Citizenship whenever I want now

>>129873378
no one is against legal immigration,we are against niggers and allauhsnackbars coming from africa,(i would say chinks shoul be controlled too),if you have italian ancestry don't worry

>>129874254
as long as you vote lega nord or fratelli d'italia

>>129866846
I'll just vote casapound.

Controlled op who believe in chemtrails and vaccines cause autism, they're basically the youth wing of the PD.

>>129874471
it's a waste of a vote though

>>129873436
Però il legacy non te lo fa usare quando apri nuovi thread se non sbaglio.
A volte mi chiede di selezionare le macchine e ci sono solo cartelli e mi da la spunta uguale, lol.

>>129874700
boh, a me lo fa usare sempre

cari miei è stato un piacere ma me tocca andare, alla prossima e ricordate che M5S sono i più ebrei che abbiamo

>>129874268
I have a question for my fellow italian's here.

Recently I found my great grandfather's documents in a small town where he was born, After that I went and googled he's second name and found people with the same second name in the same town he was born and others close to it. So my question is... How do I contact them and make it LESS weird when I do it?

>casapound

sono tipo 8 anni che non andiamo alle urne da quando è caduto il berlu e c'è gente che non ironicamente vuole menare il voto nello 0,qualcosa invece della coalizione di Fdi-LN, siate calcolatori raga, il 90% della plebe vota solo merda moderata, secondo voi perché l'Italia storicamente dal 46 è solo un troiaio democristiano di cdx o csx? Conviene la transizione graduale e scommettere su qualcosa di più solido a queste elezioni, dopo tutti sti anni senza votare non meniamo il voto nel cesso grazie

>>129875237
Contact the local church or ask to old people

>>129863898
Both parties polling at the top are useless. Don't vote for either of them.

>>129875237
i have no clue about that.keep in mind that even of you have the same surname,you could be not even related at all (or just very distant related).
i know many people that share the same surname and live in the same towns,but aren't related.

>>129876039
ecco
Casapound e FN dovrebbero scomparire
Generazione Identitaria come movimento non partitico+Lega Nord/FdI/Noi con Salvini è la migliore combinazione

>>129876296

Il problema dell'estrema destra italiana è che siamo estremamente settari, la sinistra si unisce nella mediocrità, noi ci separiamo per ogni cazzata, l'Italia è l'unico paese dove l'onda identitaria ha avuto casini perché sono arrivati quei decerebrati di "Azione Identitaria" che han fatto la scissione perché in testa a loro possono fare la rivoluzione pagana.

>>129863898

Let me just say to you that some people in M5S clearly stated to believe in chemtrails, autism-inducing vaccines and in general tinfoil shit.

You give them your vote, you're basically saying "I'm not so stupid to believe everything mass media tell me, I just believe everything that my leader say without even thinking twice about it"

>>129876568
Zio cane azione identitaria, cosa cazzo pensano di fare
Oltretutto sono tutti bruttissimi, Zeb89 è un chad in confronto
Generazione è un movimento paneuropeo, in questi giorni faccio l'adesione

Dovete votare tutti lega pure se siete terroni.

>>129876810
Salvini aveva promesso che col No al referendum toglieva il nord dal nome, fateci la lega italica e vi facciamo truccare i voti dalla mafia facendo votare pure i nostri antenati morti fino al ramo di discendenza italo-sannita

>>129876114
Thanks I'll try that I guess.
>>129876272
I know but it's not like a common surname like a name of town or something, What it seems was that my Great-grandfather had 5 other children that did not came to Brazil.

>>129863898
Voting intention surveys shows that if there was an alliance of parties more to the left than PD, M5S would lose more voters than PD.
They're fucking commie

>>129876783
Il distacco tra Generazione ed Azione è evidente specialmente tra nord e sud, Generazione è cresciuta tantissimo nel nord italia in questi anni.
Invece molti che come me sono del centro e del sud e potevano considerare di aderire si sono ritrovati la sezione di GI voltagabbana che è passata ad Azione

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ALLIANCE WHEN

>>129867425
I'm starting to believe this is a just a long-running joke made up by Grillo. When they actually put someone in the government, Grillo will come out and say an incredibly lame pun he's been to say for a decade.

>>129868001
If they did, they'd lose too many votes in the north.
There are people who still vote them while dreaming of an independent Padania.

>>129878177
Why not a real federation of parties? Noi con Salvini is retard, he needs a southern Salvini

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>>129878366
>he needs a southern Salvini

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>>129866452

>implying this bunch of retards can manage to actual do anything

Arent you seeing her mayor in Rome?And romans are lucky imagine if they start do something like their other mayor in Turin. Islamization in a couple of mandates!
They're leftist wet dream.

>>129878366
There is "Movimento per le Autonomie", which is autonomist and conservative, but I don't know much more about them

>>129879314
It's probably one of the old autonomist southern party related to mafia

>>129863898
The are like antibiotics. They will destroy all the germs that are our big corrupt political class, destroying even the little good part, but that's what antibiotics do.

>>129880245
good goy

>>129863898
Overseas voting is retarded.
I don't understand the concept.

You shouldn't have a say on what happens in another country if you don't live there. Unless you are a military veteran or something.

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>>129881343

What's the deal with the Identitarians in Italy and Casapound?

>>129881706
People that vote left are the ones that should have no say on what happens to the country.

>>129863898
>Redpill me on pic related fellow Italians.
They are a bunch of delusional hipsters, former gommies and gibsmedats.

>>Anti immigration
False, they are schizophrenic at best. Mostly they are pro-immigration, pro-third world. Sometimes they pander desperately to the right if they lose votes (like now)
>>Anti EU
They are staunchly PRO-EU, they are slightly anti Eur (the currency), but approve of EU
>>Pro internet freedom
True.
>>Can actually win the election
False.

They are also anti-vaxxers, pro-dindus, pro-UBI and gibs, pro-surveillance state and in general a bunch of whiny letists

>>129867748
>
>Why do Italians always blame the EU for their problems?

>Italy is a country that is stuck in the 60s when it comes to it's bureaucracy and economic policies.

I fucking wish we were stuck in the policies of the 60s (before 1969).
> Militarized police force, hard against gommies
> Strong border control
> Average overall tax rate at around 33% instead of 45%
> Pro-family and pro-business policies.
> Easier gun laws.
> Commies not in government, can only REEEEEEE autistically.

>>129882122
He has been expelled and Bossi is on the verge of leaving the party, we are not PD
>>129882286
Identitarians are taking ground, Casapound is literally fascist but they can't gain enough votes

They aren't anti EU.

Nor particularly anti-immigration though they are against NGOs shipping infinite numbers.

Also the Mayor of Rome from M5S has said immigration must be capped because it's not sustainable.

The fact that their audience specifically ditches mainstream media and uses the internet makes them potentially very red pilled.

>>129867553
>They used to be anti euro but now they dropped that and are pro euro
Lol false

> vote lega, or if you are from the center/south and butthurt about lega than vote Fratelli d'Italia.

Lega Nord is never going to win, because half of Italy will never vote for them.

Forza Italia are turbo cucks

>>129876783

Dite un poco, quelli di Generazione Identitaria son gente semiseria o dei larper disadattati? Stavo facendoci un pensiero, il loro programma sulla Remigrazione è buono per 19/23...

>Also the Mayor of Rome from M5S has said immigration must be capped because it's not sustainable.

After asking to host 2000 more rapefugees last year. Yeah, credibility to the max.

>>129883643
They are against NGO not because they import niggers, but because they are against everyone who makes money from something, from pharmaceutical companies to industries, and they see corruption everywhere (remind the "ENI corruption created Boko Haram").
Their supporters can be redpilled by they are extremely faithful, they'll negate evidence even if Grillo makes an interracial homo porn video
>>129883976
Sono ben integrati nel tessuto sociale e politico e non usano mai vecchi simboli nazifascisti

>>129884560
*but they are
>>129883962
Fratelli d'Italia is not Forza Italia
And we are politically conquering the most red region of Italy, Liguria with some cuck forzisti
the problem is Berlusconi
Berlusconi and Grillo are the biggest problems for an united redpilled right

>>129884560

Ma sono anche al sud o solo al nord? Mai visti in giro.

>>129885812
Per colpa delle merde di Azione identitaria sono principalmente al sud, per fare una secessione in un movimento paneuropeo bisogna essere proprio idioti
I gruppi sono ancora piccoli purtroppo però si cresce