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>STUDY: Vaping Just As Harmful As Smoking
>If you’re thinking electronic cigarettes are healthier than tobacco cigarettes, researchers say think again.
>A new study from the University of Connecticut, says e-cigarettes are just as harmful to your health as tobacco cigarettes.
>In the past few years, e-cigarettes have been pushed as the “safer” choice compared to tobacco cigarettes. Thus, e-cigarettes have risen in popularity.
>The University of Connecticut researchers crafted a screening device and discovered that e-cigarettes are filled with a nicotine-based liquid, which is “potentially as harmful as unfiltered cigarettes when it comes to causing DNA damage,” according to UConn.
>The study also found that vapor from non-nicotine e-cigarettes has many “chemical additives,” causing cellular mutations” that can lead to cancer.
>According to one of the researchers, the amount of DNA damage all depends on the amount of vapor a person inhales with e-cigarettes, as well as other additives present and whether nicotine or non-nicotine liquid is used.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/06/13/vaping-as-harmful-as-smoking/
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Has big vape gone too far this time?
What do you think about this?
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Vaping is for faggots
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OP, just know that you will live to see Whites fuck your shit up.
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>>129738503
Good to know, I'll go back to cigarettes.
Cancer can't be cured anyway
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Aaaaand the study is behind a paywall and can't be checked.
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>>129738503
Sauce?
Where can I find such girls and for how much? is that Eastern Europe?
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>>129738503
>reeeee goys get back on the herbal jew so we can make more money on taxing tobacco.
I laugh at people going on and on about "x causes cancer!!!" we live on a fucking planet where the celestial body giving us heat and letting us grow crops gives us fucking cancer, are those same people breathing through filtration systems and never going into direct sunlight?
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>>129738503
What a load of shit.
>Smoke heavily,
>Have bronchitis
>Switch to Vaping
>Breath much much easier
>implying nicotine causes cancer
>Implying all ingredients in e-liquid are not approved by the FDA for medical purposes
>Fearmongering.
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>>129738503
"Nicotine-based"
Bullshit.
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>>129738503
Why is she wearing whore clothes in the street?
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>>129738503
Vapor and smoke have different properties, the latter containing at least 200 times the amount of carcinogens as in vapor.
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>>129739419
This. I smoke one cigarette and I feel like trash. Fape like a fedora lord all day and I feel fine.
>“potentially as harmful as unfiltered cigarettes when it comes to causing DNA damage,”
>potentially
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>>129739011
Nice try, big vape shill.You don't need to see the study as it's been verified by several independent media outlets.
>E-cigarettes ‘could be as harmful as regular cigarettes’ according to new study
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/12/e-cigarettes-could-be-as-harmful-as-regular-cigarettes-according-to-new-study-6704318/
>E-cigarettes potentially as harmful as tobacco cigarettes, study shows
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/06/170612094027.htm
>Study finds that e-cigarettes are potentially as harmful as tobacco cigarettes in damaging DNA
http://www.news-medical.net/news/20170613/Study-finds-that-e-cigarettes-are-potentially-as-harmful-as-tobacco-cigarettes-in-damaging-DNA.aspx
>E-Cigarettes Potentially As Harmful As Tobacco Cigarettes, Says Study
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/e-cigarettes-potentially-as-harmful-as-tobacco-cigarettes-says-study_uk_593e56c2e4b02402687acb0c
>E-cigs might be less addictive than tobacco cigarettes, but they could be just as harmful to your health, studies say
http://www.mensfitness.com/life/entertainment/e-cigs-might-be-less-addictive-tobacco-cigarettes-they-could-be-just-harmful-your
So why don't you throw out that battery powered gadget, go down to the corner store, and treat yourself to nice smooth pack of Newports.
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>>129739566
She's a modern independent woman just looking to have fun and hookup with some cool funny cute guys. Don't mansplain why she shouldn't be such a degenerate piece of shit.
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>>129739907
>unarchived clickbaiters
>http://huffingtonpost co uk/entry/e-cigarettes-potentially-as-harmful-as-tobacco-cigarettes-says-study_uk_593e56c2e4b02402687acb0c
https://archive.is/XFo5x
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>>129738503
For what its worth I met a respiratory therapist way long ago in '08 and talked with him about vaping. short version is "Vaping was first used medically but they were wrong and it was harmful. SO they released it as a recreation." They = developer of vaping
He was a great guy, moved into WA shithole from somewhere nice to help with the boom of respiratory problems. 420 LEGALIZE IT BABY
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>>129739011
I can get access to shit like that. Probably slightly illegal. If you actually care I upload the pages as jpgs...
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>>129740333
ok, i do it. trips/kek say I have to
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>>129739907
>You don't need to see the study as it's been verified by several independent media outlets.
Is that a joke?
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>>129739738
Yeah bro fuck you're DNA who needs that anyway
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>>129740785
thats it. about to kill myself after solving 9 recaptchas
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>>129738503
>brought to you by Phillip Morris
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>>129739907
>The researchers also found that vapor from non-nicotine e-cigarettes caused as much DNA damage as filtered cigarettes, possibly due to the many chemical additives present in e-cigarette vapors.
They fucked up pretty bad here. There's no conceivable way that vegetable glycerin or propylene glycol is as harmful as cigarette smoke. I suspect they burned the liquid so badly it would physically painful for a human to inhale.
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Who fucking cares? People do what they want, what else is new? People can smoke cigs if they want and people can vape if they want. If you don't like it then you don't have to deal with it because that's what you want. Not much to discuss because it's legal.
Is this political? It isn't.
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>>129739907
>You don't need to see the study as it's been verified by several independent media outlets.
You're making a really terrible statement here. About 50% of the time, I find a major contradiction between the study itself and the media reporting of the study. Usually it's an important piece of information that the media chose to leave out.
Just to give you an example, there was a study being reported a few years ago that claimed that college educated Asian Americans make less than college educated white Americans. I found 10+ articles that claimed this. However, if you actually read the study, it says that the discrepancy only exists for immigrants. For non-immigrants, Asian Americans actually make more money.
The media is very terrible at reporting on studies and can totally bend the conclusion 180 degrees backwards. You should always read the study, not the media reporting.
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>>129741007
>There's no conceivable way that vegetable glycerin or propylene glycol is as harmful as cigarette smoke
The whole thing looks like product shilling for the new multi-sample 5-minute DNA testing machine they invented.
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>>129738503
IMAGINE MY SHOCK
vaping should be for cunts wanting to stop smoking, not middle schoolers wanting to look hip.
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>>129740843
Thanks bro. Perhaps we need to save this as proof to all those who jump into unchecked fashions to feel ''progressive''.
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>>129738503
You misunderstood the study. Obviously the nicotine is still nicotine but the lack of tar is certainly better on your lungs.
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Story time gentleman
>2 years ago
>having lung problems
>smoking like a chimney
>doctor tells me to stop
>duh
>switch to ecig
>lungs get healthier
>breathing improves dramicatlly
>go see doctor
>asks if I quit smoking
>no just switched to ecig
>starts going on how they are far worse
>ask him why I feel better, why my lung problems are improved
>tells me that it could be a coincidence
>tell him I'll start smoking again and we'll see
>have him test my lung capacity o2 etc
>go back to smoking cigs for 2 weeks
>go back in
>all stats are quite lowered
>have shit eating grin
>tells me there's still additives in in that are bad
>oh like what?
>he doesn't know any or even the main ingredients
>realize this doctor just parrots what he 'learns' from 'studies'
>switch and find a competent doctor
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>>129738503
Guy came in a cafe yesterday asking if he could have all his vape friends there vaping. Owner said no because of city bylaw. Vaper complained about it being unfair and stupid since vaping is safe. Someone else complained about the clouds, vaper bragged about how they do cloud competitions and shit. Owner said it's out of his hands.
Vapers are just as disrespectful as smokers. I still hear smokers bitch they can't smoke wherever they want. All they care about is themselves.
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why are the flags fucked?
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>>129741655
>>starts going on how they are far worse
He's correct. It's all in the study, which I posted in the OP.
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>>129740617
Do you know what DNA damage even means or do you just see "DNA" and "damage"? Also
>potentially
Fucking vague studies that amount to nothing short of click-bait. It lists a thousand and one variables and never goes into details.
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>>129738503
>goys, vaping and smoking are so bad for you
>but pornography and masturbation aren't, here is a picture to distrac---- I mean for your health and pleasure goys, keep on spanking the monkey and looking at porn!
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>>129741687
>vape pretty much all day
>don't do it in public places
>or outside or places doorways etc
>don't try and vape in places I know would be seen as bad etiquette
>live my life pretty comfortably still
just because you have the right to vape doesn't mean you can impose that right on others
it's pretty simple really
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>>129741236
Yeah it looks like they wanted to do water testing but needed a publicity grabbing headline.
I skimmed the study and they used artificial inhalation to get their "vapor" which was almost certainly just smoke from burning liquid because they didn't bother to make sure it was set up as a human would use it. That smoke is highly carcinogenic but it's also so incredibly unpleasant to inhale that you know even if you're only burning a tiny bit and would have to be an idiot to keep puffing on it.
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>>129739738
And I potentially can still get a boner while taking propecia for my receding hairline.
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>>129741970
>posts degenerate creep videos
>of a black guy and white girl
>believes studies like this
Calling you a cuck isn't enough
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>>129738616
wait... how the fuck did you get that flag
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>>129742142
I appreciate that. I still see smokers gather around doors, since they are now "outside" but they are supposed to be 20 ft. away or something. They don't care, plus the cigarette butts everywhere.
I realize this isn't EVERYONE but it's the assholes that ruin things,.
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>>129739907
The only shill here is you buddy, eat a turd retard.
What this has to to with politics?!
Get cancer and die faggot
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>>129739907
>could
>potentially
>potentially
>potentially
>might, could
nice facts nigger
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>>129742526
Well, I guess you sure showed me a thing or two.
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>>129738503
Vaping is implicit whiteness.
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>>129738503
One process produces radioactive carbon that you inhale, the other doesn't.
Both have nicotine.
If you aren't seeing obvious harm reduction then your study was designed to show otherwise.
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>>129738503
(((Study)))
riiiight...
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>>129739907
> verified by several independent media outlets.
> media
> verify their sources
You have no idea how the media works.
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>>129739004
Can't? Or won't?
Face it: keeping old people alive is a waste of resources and young people with cancer are just collateral damage to keep the 'we can't cure cancer' meme going.
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>>129738503
Bullshit. The paper burning alone will make it worse not to mention whatever non nicotine shit they put in them.
Not saying its good or neutral just that it cant be as bad.
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The fuck is with this new flag system??
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I save $200 a month after switching to a vape. Would not be surprised at all if these studies are funded by tobacco jews angry that they're losing so many shekels.
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>>129738503
>>129741970
>>129741655
The study you posted only discusses the harm of nicotine and its derivatives but the tar in cigarettes is what causes the major lung damage. Obviously nicotine is carcinogenic, causes hypertension & vascular disease, and the DNA damage that you mentioned but those are secondary.
Trying to talk down to patients and manipulate them is not how a physician earns trust.
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>>129738616
lol i knew pol was filled with vapefags
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>>129743018
>The fuck is with this new flag system??
newfag detected
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I don't think vaping is that harmless, anyway, glycerine and cotton burn products are not something that you are supposed to inhale regularly, but its defenitly better than cigarettes. Just don't vape like a chimney and don't use cheap e-cigs and shitty liquids.
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>>129738503
>Implying I pretend I'm not killing myself
I don't smoke cause I'm addicted, least not only, but because I want cancer so I can have a valid reason to off myself early.
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>>129743051
>I save $200 a month after switching to a vape.
Then it seems to me vaping should be subject to the same taxes put on tobacco to discourage people from smoking. If it's just as harmful, it needs to be taxed.
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>>129739281
Definitely not Eastern Europe.
Girl's ass too fat, guys look fcking dyel like a jew during the holocaust and street looks like it belongs in a warm place.
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>>129741655
>killing yourself in a different way
Yeah, you sure showed your doctor
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>>129742424
There are flag options under the captcha
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>inhaling chemicals into your delicate alveoli
Great idea my dude!
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ecigs are fine, that's why we see all these pro athletes vaping when they never used to smoke
oh, wait
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>>129738503
Fake and gay. They invented this new machine and this was its first test to draw attention to it, and it can only test for one form of harm from nicotine.
Second, the headlines are all clickb8. "IS AS HARMFUL", then "POTENTIALLY HARMFUL", "MIGHT POSSIBLY BE", etc.
Fact is, vape faggots are inhaling nicotine vapor and food grade vegetable glycerine/propolyene glycol, instead of burning paper, tar, plant matter and a hundred other ingredients.
Nicotine is a poison, but it's pretty obvious vapefags are doing much less harm to their bodies than smokefags.
t. vodkafag
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If ecigs are just as dangerous than explain how tar is bad for lungs yet ecigs have no tar...
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>>129740472
i hope so
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>>129739907
>E-cigarettes ‘COULD be as harmful as regular cigarettes’ according to new study
>E-cigarettes POTENTIALLY as harmful as tobacco cigarettes, study shows
>Study finds that e-cigarettes are POTENTIALLY as harmful as tobacco cigarettes in damaging DNA
>E-Cigarettes POTENTIALLY As Harmful As Tobacco Cigarettes, Says Study
>E-cigs MIGHT be less addictive than tobacco cigarettes, but they COULD be just as harmful to your health, studies say
My flatulence MAY cause the rains down in Africa, but it doesn't.
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>>129738503
>One study
>probably funded by tobacco industry
Wew
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>>129742715
beat me to it.
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Good.
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That is great news, I can keep vaping without being a faggot.
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>>129742728
wew
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Testing new feature on behalf of glorious Dixie.
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>>129738503
It depends on how you test it. These washed up faggots test the e cigarettes in a way no one would use it: They dryburn until there is no juice left and then make measurements. They are complaining that Formaldehyd forms then, which is causing cancer, indeed. But no vaping guy would ever dryburn his e cig because it tastes like fucking shit then.
If they get got for their testing methods, they then complain that nicotine MAY cause cancer, although hundreds of studies intentionally tried to connect nicotine with cancer without success.
Fuck all those "scientists". It is just a big lie.
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>>129738503
>basically mix glicerine with water
>then add the shit that fits you
how is that harmfull?
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>>129746235
This guy knows what's up.
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>>129739907
This study wasn't even researching the effects of vaping. They were trying to show their divice could be used for determining DNA damage. If you want to show that vaping is dangerous you need to do a study about vaping not a study on some divice.
Also I don't even vape or smoke.
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>>129738503
Just smoke real cigarettes you numale nigger
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>>129738503
>1st i want the paper not the article
>2nd last """reaserch""" that named vapes harmfull heated the vapings parts 1000x times than a user does
its like literally burning an apple and saying eating that is bad lul
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nicotine is a neurotoxin. 2 drop of pure nicotine will kill a human being. It's often used as a pesticide.
Do not get hooked on nicotine.
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>>129738503
I bet the air in an average American city is worse than inhaling an e cigarette.
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>>129746235
Hahaha watching you shill for the nicotine jew is hilarious
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i smoked for many years and it did real damage to my lungs, i switched to vape to quit.
after about a year, put vape down, no more smke or vape or withdrawals.
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>>129746235
I'm a scientist and I approve of this post.
For real. I work in a hospital lab.
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>>129746870
t. cryptokike
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>researchers crafted a screening device and discovered that e-cigarettes are filled with a nicotine-based liquid
NO. YOU DONT FUCKING SAY
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>>129738503
Is this what people mean when they say "common sense"? There's no way vapind is worse than breathing in smoke.
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>>129747334
Nicotine was never considered anything but addictive till they combined it with water vapor. Must be the water vapor. You ever inhale water vapor? That shit is worse than mustard gas. You will be coughing up blood in 30 seconds.
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>>129747242
scientists discover cheeseburgers filled with cow products
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>>129746870
your flag is a thousand times gayer than mine. Eat shit
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>>129747637
Anyone else can't see most of the custom flags?
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>>129738503
>spraying chemichals in your lungs is not healthy
I don't get why people didn't understand that sooner.
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>>129747821
i think you probably just don't have enough 4chan dollars yet. give it some time
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>>129738503
Doubtful.
Never smoked anything but my parents did, stopped smoking thanks to e-cigs(they don't even vape anymore). I was still living at home by the time(was 16) but I remember the thing I've noticed in the first 6 months since they've moved on.
My father, before going to 1st(morning) shift always had coughing fits. Always woke me up at 5AM because of them. ALWAYS.
2 months in, he stopped coughing. The only side-effect was that he gained weight(tobacco kills appetite so no wonder).
Yeah that sounds like e-cigs are totally just as harmful as normal cigs, rite?
Also a lot of those researches are based on flavors like bubblegum and other shit nobody normal buys under guise of "protecting the youth" since they totally are going to buy those on regular basis, right?
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I like my co2 weed vape pen. its pretty sweet.
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>>129738503
>academia shitting on tobacco
>tobacco is one of the last big American businesses
Gee I wonder who's behind this (((study))l
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>>129742424
das rite
fix this flag nigga
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>>129748086
This.
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>>129738503
>filled with a nicotine-based liquid, which is “potentially as harmful as unfiltered cigarettes when it comes to causing DNA damage,”
Nicotine isn't what causes mutations in smokers, though. It is the combusted material from the smoke that causes cancer.
>another psuedoscience study funded by corporate interest
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>>129738503
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>>129748395
The study itself is fine. They present a cheap and accurate method for mesuring DNA damage. It's the media spin on the findings that's the problem. They pretend like this study was about vaping while it in fact was not.
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This thread is dumb. The focus group that has cigarette smoking culled back to less than 10% needs a new victim. Vaping is harmless unless you're a pregnant chic with sickle cell. Fuck the bullshit
>suggests
>could be as
>possibly
>potentially
>studies may show
FUCK OUTTA HERE ancient aliums
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>>129740333
The paper is about the 3-D printed test method, though. Literally says it right there in the Abstract.
>more studies manipulated for political purposes
Oh boy.
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>>129746235
They say that they collected the vapor from the e-cig. What is wrong with their study is that they used microsomal liver enzyme to activate the material collected from the smoke and the vapor. Toxicity of smoke is against lung cell, not liver cell. Lung cell have very little amount of microsomes. I think toxicity of smoke is from reactive chemicals activated by the burning.
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>>129738503
how can nicotine be sooooo bad when its isolated form is literally caffeine's sister? these studies are bullshit. people will blindly trust any statistics thrown out at them without even knowing the controls used or which type of distribution formula was chosen. fucking slaves.
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>>129743051
Just don't expect health insurance to cover you if you get self-inflicted lung cancer, then we're all good. The issue is more that smokers and vapers en masse demand to be allowed to harm themselves and then demand to be taken care of when this obvious bad idea backfires.
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>>129748968
Liquid enters bloodstream, liquid passes through liver? Seems reasonable.
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>>129748694
Yeah, I didn't scroll down enough to see the anon that posted the screen caps.
> It's the media spin on the findings that's the problem
Honestly, I just expect any news report based on science to be wildly out of touch with the goal/research of the paper in question. The amount of reporters who understand the sciences enough to make a decent report on it are an extreme minority, and they get politically ostracized as well.
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Fuck vaping and cigs, its all about flower power fags.
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>>129749207
>Liquid enters bloodstream
Couldn't even make it past the gate, could you?
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>>129749207
Cancer from smoke hits lung, mouth, throat. If it was the case of chemicals entering the bloodstream and being processed by liver we would see liver cancer associated with cigarettes smoke.
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>>129742424
Amazon
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>>129742424
R A R E
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>>129739907
>tfw on nofap and this gets posted
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>>129750022
That ass looks like cottage cheese...
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>>129750159
I still want it
and sauce
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>>129739566
Because she is French or Swedish. How I know this? Because she's with a sandniqqer.
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>>129739011
>what is sci hub?
baka desu senpai
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Anyone who smokes the commercial tobacco that is riddled with poison is dumb as fuck anyways.
The only safe tobacco is either the one marked as no additives or just buy it in the black market instead of giving your shekels to the state backed trusts that are american corporations.
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>>129738503
>The study also found that vapor from non-nicotine e-cigarettes has many “chemical additives,” causing cellular mutations” that can lead to cancer.
EVERY SUBSTANCE YOU PUT IN YOUR BODY CAUSES SOME DEGREE OF CELLULAR MUTATION, INCLUDING WATER, BREAD, SEMEN, AND EVEN OXYGEN
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>129750022
I see guys like that all the time. Where tf do you live?
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>>129743090
ULTRA RARE
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>>129738503
lol wtf is this bitch wearing
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>>129738503
Ohboy, the results of a single study mean that scientific consensus has shifted entirely.
Wait, no, it means that a single study was preformed and a news outlet found an easy headline.
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>tobacco lobby puts out study
>retards lap it up
every time
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>>129750626
you gay son?
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>>129742424
yeah i bet you want to know that, leaf
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>>129738503
yeah, best to quit, second best gum, next best is still vaping - these assholes set out to prove something but theres no question that regular cigs are far worse.
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>>129750752
ULTRA NEW
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>>129750909
>implying I'm male
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>>129738503
>10 years ago
>dad in hospital
>doctor says if he doesn't stop smoking he will die
>switches to vaping
>alive today, no cancer
I don't buy it.
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>>129738503
my cigarettes burn and catch me on fire
can you make them go out?
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>>129751046
>>10 years ago
>start vaping
I honestly refuse to believe this
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>>129738503
So what your saying is propylene glycol and/or glycerin cause cancer?
Because it's already been established that nicotine in and of itself is not a carcinogen and that the carcinogens reside in the plant material and tar.
So if that's the case we should ban inhalers and air fresheners as well as every other product with propylene glycol and glycerin in them.
But nah I'm calling bullshit and fake science until they actually release the details on this (((study)))
The real danger vaping presents is to the wallets of big tobacco.
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>>129751046
>my anecdote constitutes data
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>>129739011
This
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>>129751380
>what is sci hub?
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>>129751020
l-l-london..
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>>129751205
2007? They existed back then, but when he started they were little pieces of shit from China. There was no such thing as box mods or big tanks or vape stores back then.
>>129751352
It might possibly ;)
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>>129738503
fuck you guyyyyyssss (´‿`), vape naysh 4 lyfe
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>>129751020
post feminine benis
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>>129751477
>2007 was 10 years ago
Gdam man.
Hey good for your dad
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>>129738503
>>129739907
>>129741970
>CRP_0364
>CRP_0363
>CRP_0348
That's a lot of videos
Don't be stingy
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>>129751253
Yea, you can also vape a non-flavoured, strictly nicotine only juice. Like a non-faggot.
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>>129751352
>the data i generated in private studies, of which i have not provided the controls or formulas should be blindly believed because I have a degree or "important" position
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>>129751681
Yeah, he was lucky they came into existence when they did. So many people who could have been helped by such a simple product.
The ones he used to order back then were seriously trash, though. They've perfected the science over the past few years.
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>>129751832
>deflecting this hard
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>>129750159
makes it even better
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>>129740333
How are you such an leet haxor that you can remove elements from a webpage? Why not just FUCKING SAY THAT'S AN OPTION, fucking pretentious faggot.
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>>129741984
This. There's too many qualifiers and vague terms for this "study" to be worth shit.
I vape weed exclusively and know for a fact the tar produced by vaping is much much cleaner than smoking resin.
The vape resin comes off with ease whereas smoking resin sticks like glue.
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>>129751990
>using deflection hidden behind the accusation of another's deflection
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>>129738503
>>The University of Connecticut researchers crafted a screening device and discovered that e-cigarettes are filled with a nicotine-based liquid
HOLY SHIT we're dealing with some real intellectuals here, could be some of the brightest there are
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>>129738503
>vaping and smoking in 2017
>not using Snus
>mfw
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>>129752141
>deflecting accusations of deflecting this hard
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>>129751914
Also, I miss vaping back then because there was no fedora memes or neckbeards walking around with them. Legitimately everybody who saw it thought it was the coolest thing ever and wanted to buy one.
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This only applies to ejuices that use harmful flavor additives like Diacetyl
Just buy the name brand shit and you're fine
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>>129739907
>Nice try, big vape shill.You don't need to see the study as it's been verified by several independent media outlets.
>You don't need to see the study
that just makes me want to see it even more
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>>129738503
Where the fuck are these videos from , is there more ?
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>>129752556
If apple designed one and celebrities started using it, it would become the norm within a year.
So who gives a fuck, do what you want to do. I honestly think everybody who doesn't live on their own somewhere in a forest looks retarded, it's all just different brands of retardation. Pick yours.
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>>129752241
>deflecting deflections about deflecting a deflector
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>>129739907
Literal tobacco shill
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>>129752890
>deflecting accusations of deflecting accusations of deflecting this hard
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>>129752837
The thing is that it gets forbidden because of bullshit studies like this one.
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Sooooo nicotine gum, lozenges, and patches cause cancer too? Why do hospitals prescribe them? Nice try tobacco, your days are over
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>>129738503
F A K E
N E W S
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>>129752965
i love you lets fuck
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>>129753081
only if you have a feminine benis
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>>129742177
You're probably right here. Anyone have access to the Supplemental Information? I'd like to see this Figure S4, it's probably some ridiculous contraption burning the shit out of the wick.
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>>129740472
Remember, it's illegal for you to read the emails, we'll read them for you - CNN
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>>129741970
>He's correct. It's all in the study, which I posted in the OP.
>>129739907
>>Nice try, big vape shill.You don't need to see the study
I like your style anon
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>>129738503
Incorrect when it comes to weed.
Burning weed is problematic for your health, "vaping" weed is used in hospitals, e.g. in Israel.
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>>129739907
Forget the scientific method goy
You don't need to waste your time verifying the validity of our study when we have a whole list of Shabbos g.. er I mean ...independent sources...regurgitating... oy I mean approving...our study
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>>129753159
srry im a shy, slightly autistic virgin femanon that loves anime, memes, cooking, children, and video games.
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>>129739907
Which is the smoothest cigarette on the market?
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>>129753429
>roastie
not interested
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>>129740843
this smells like an in vitro test..
What's more important is human/animal testing.
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>>129741970
You truly are a massive faggot.
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This study's probably bullshit but I do feel like there's something off about vaping that people don't wanna talk about. It makes me feel like shit desu. A few big puffs and I don't feel like moving for the next 10-20 minutes. Most vapists I know are chronically lazy, unaccomplished people. Cigs don't even do that people. Someone explain this shit.
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>>129754002
>A few big puffs and I don't feel like moving for the next 10-20 minutes.
you're getting more nicotine than you're used to. the same thing happens if you're smoking hookah and taking huge rips
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>>129754002
I guess way too much nicotine in your dosage.
The rest of your post is bullshit.
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>>129739419
Your lungs clearing up because of lack of tar, doesn't mean your cancer risk is suddenly lower.
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>>129739566
She's a stripper you fucking autists, go to a stipclub grab a beer watch a girl suck on her titty. When she puts on real cloths you'll wanna know those manurisms.
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>>129754169
>>129754212
3mg and I've been vaping for weeks straight now with the same effects
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>>129754002
Most potheads I know are lazy degenerates.
correlation =/= causation.
a lazy man smoking weed is still a lazy man without weed.
a lazy man smoking a vape is still a lazy man without a vape.
You can't really say a substance is MAKING someone lazy if they're lazy beforehand.
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>>129754361
A 2000% increase in risk still is nothing when my risk of cancer is 0.00000001%
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>>129754564
3mg is quite low. Seems you are lazy by nature.
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>>129754002
Nice tits. Didnt read ur post tho fagboi
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>>129740870
Nah. Big tobacco just wants vaping to work for them. See the government's new rules designed to help them.
You think Philip Morris gives a shit if they are selling you cigarettes or vapes?
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>>129754645
But that makes you 2000.00000001% likely to get cancer retard
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>>129738503
VAPING RIGHT NOW
At least I know I'm free
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>>129754564
You probably have an underlying condition. 3mg is basically nothing.
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>>129755058
Nigga change your flag you are embarrassing this beautiful nation.
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>>129738945
I doubt it.
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>>129738503
>>129739907
that ass is thicc
is there sauce?
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>>129755058
no it's 0.0000002%
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>>129754807
yes you did
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>>129755154
you guys realize there's more to e liquid than nicotine right?
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>>129743410
Looks like cars are driving on the left side,
Taxis are in English, so English speaking country,
> Google's Australian Taxis
Looks Like somewhere in Australia
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>>129738503
tobacco industry is massive. No wonder shills are constantly trying to shit on vaping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW4duMgxEIo
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>>129739419
>approved by the FDA
Thinks his FDA isn't paid off to approve things with weak proof of their safety.
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>>129738503
>>129738503
>as harmful as smoking
what a clickbait title; they don't even assert that in the article.
No shit nicotine causes cancer
Less tar means that it should end up being the healthier option
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>>129755553
You do realize that an underlying condition could include something like VG/PG sensitivity and the mention of 3mg of nicotine being effectively nothing was largely to exclude it from being a likely cause right?
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>>129738616
>>
sieg heil
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>>129755842
>No shit nicotine causes cancer
but it doesn't
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>>129755842
But then the state can't tax it like cigs with the excuse that they are making to expensive to save lives goy
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That pavement needed a good truck of peace cleansing right there.
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>>129738616
nice flag fag
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>>129755863
I did not but thank you for elaborating
You're probably right desu. I'm sensitive to gluten and shit with food so it's most likely my system. I'm just pissed I can't enjoy this exquisite simple pleasure desu. love me a good cloud
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>>129756452
They'll probably develop alternative liquids in time.
it's a booming industry not being raped by the federal government yet so innovation is strong.
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>>129738503
Seems sketchy. Bet they buy a 200w plus mod and crank it to 150w burning all the cotton until it catches fire and emits smoke.
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>>129738503
>Vaping Just As Harmful As Smoking
t. big tobacco
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>>129738503
>LIVING JUST AS HARMFUL AS DEATH
>FLORIDE IN THE WATER
>GENDER IS A COMPUTER PROGRAM
>FACEBOOK BRAINS
>ALIENS JUST USING US TO FARM GOLD INGOTS
Why even live goys?
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So how many deaths has e-cigs caused? I havent heard of any... Im gonna guess it will take a bit more time until we get to a conclusion, studies in these areas can rarely be trusted unfortunately...
Here in Norway they were gonna pull funding to some study on packaging for cigs and snuff because it wasnt turning up the results they wanted, meanwhile, the goal of the study was clearly to push out other smaller brands etc
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I like traps, no homo
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>>129738503
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>>129739312
RARE
A
R
E
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>>129756452
I don't know what kind of juice you typically use but I'd suggest trying an all natural max VG juice with a light flavor. Anecdotally I've found those to generally be the most tolerable for people.
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>>129743384
are you attempting to garner reactions, or are you a hangable nigger?
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>>129745133
Seriously I don't fucking get it. I quit smoking and when I did I used to smoke American Spirits. They said on the package that they are not safer, but how the fuck are they not. They don't have near as many additives as regular cigarettes. Vaping can't be as harmful. Any person with common sense can figure that out, but it definitely isn't good for you. I mean shit, you are breathing in burnt plant material vs vapor with 3 chemicals in it...
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>>129738503
lol. Poor dude just wishes he was at home playing video games.
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>>129738503
Studies funded by big tobacco.
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>>129738503
>>The University of Connecticut researchers crafted a screening device and discovered that e-cigarettes are filled with a nicotine-based liquid,
Discovered? Really? Guess that is all you can expect from University of Connecticut, college level equivalent of the short bus.
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>>129753040
Friendship ended with tobacco. Now vape is my best friend.
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