FELLOW LIBERTARIANS ITS TIME WE TAKE THIS BOARD FROM THE STATISTS

Keep paying for my roads, whiteboi.

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>>129716247
shut up fgt

>>129716247
I'm FUCKING excited. Old flags are the best flags. AUTHORITARIAN FAGGOTS GET OUT

>>129716247
What happens with the McNukes? How do we avoid that? I'm scared

>>129716247
>TAKE
That violates the NAP

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>>129716247

>>129716682
libertarians are like 55% of the board though

>>129716682
nice tumblr gif you retarded nigger

>>129716559
You're overtired laddie.
Maybe you should take a nap, and sort yourself out tomorrow. A nice 'lil nap.

>divide and conquer kike thread

>>129716870
no step ;_;

>>129716886
>knows what gifs are on tumblr
>labels someone else a retarded nigger

what is public shame

>>129716616
this kills the ancap
thus also violates the NAP

We will win in the end, it is only natural

>Libertarian
>Using helicopter meme (originated from Pinochet, a pro Israel authoritarian dictator with various Jews in his office)

>>129716247
>No.

>>129718027
jews wont matter in a Ancap society

>>129716576
>b-b-but MUH nukes
not very profitable is it?

i will kick your ass ancaps!

>>129721264
good luck

i step on snek haha >:^)

Yeah, businesses becoming the de facto state is surely the solution

Fucking ancaps

Dude, I just got here and I think the board is spot on. In fact the board of trustees has complete consideration for the image of /pol/. Knowing little of what goes on here, i can say without a doubt you wont win..

>>129721264
>>129721867
>>129722002
there is not a more laughable ideology than yours, so you are in no place to judge

>>129722002
How about individuals? As opposed to abstract legal entities.

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>>129716247
Free Helicopter Rides

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>>129716247
I'm looking forward to throwing your kind into gulags before throwing you into the gas chamber.

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>>129716247
That sounds like you want to set up a state.

>>129716559
>authoritarian
You sound alot like that commie, FDR.

>>129722768
Free market actually

I'm a fag

I agree.

This board belongs to real anarchists, and not the neo-feudalists of the 'anarcho'-capitalist movement.

>>129722849
And what if the free market demands a state?

awesome

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>>129721264
>>129721867
>>129722002

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Taking over your movement for an indefinite time

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>>129722768
*Property

>>129723416
So you're recreating the state?

>>129716349
Where you're going, you don't need roads.
>revs up helicopter

>>129723688
No hes enforcing the NAP

>>129716870
I specifically requested the opposite of this outcome.

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>>129723688
>he doesn't understand that the right to private property follows from the right of self-ownership

>>129723836
How is the authority of the state any different from the authority of a large landowner.

>>129716247
FIGHT STATIST OPPRESSION

LEGALIZE LOLICON

>>129722294
just because you're too dumb to get it doesn't make it truly laughable

>>129722614
I'm looking forward to throwing your kind out a helicopter

>>129723836
what if i kill somebody, breaking the NAP, and steal all his things?

>>129723035
GET OUT

*helicopter noises at u*

>>129716247

>wants an enforced rule
>wants an enforced economic system

ugh authoritarian much?

>>129723035
>real anarcist
>doesn't respect private property of others
Out the helicopter you go

>>129716247
Hola

>>129724601
You'd be dead by the time you take your second step

>>129716247
how the fuck do you set a flag, I feel retarded. is 4chanx hiding it?

>>129724665
>>129724735
>le stale helicopter meme
is this the pinnacle of ancap humour?

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>>129724707

Lel Anarchism+

Reminder that fascist statism is the only way to influence the people enough to accept libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism

>>129724735
No school of anarchist respects private property (absentee ownership). Only 'an'caps do.

>>129724810
no, this was a poor man - but a man nonetheless. he did not have much and i was able to kill him and take all his things. i have broken the NAP but who is left to save him?

>>129724810
by my Allah this thread to be absolute haram

>>129724886

Better than Antifa memes
Because they don't exist.
Because you banned fun.

>>129724735
private property is a totally abstract concept. why is what you own yours? b-because my magic gold coins say so!!!! no - if i can take 'your' stuff from you by force it is 'mine'

>>129725175
>implying i'm antifa
they're just useful idiots

>>129725268
>Antifa flag

Hmmmmm

>>129716247
I would but it violates my libertarian tendencies.

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>>129716247

I WANT MY RIGHT TO OWN WEAPONS

I'M TIRED OF BEING DEFENSELESS AGAINST CRIME

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>129725342
*ancom flag
retard

>>129724192
A state can act on behalf of to take the property of others via force and without concent. A large land owner can only act on his own behalf to acquire by mutually benefitial volentary transactions,
To;dr one violates the NAP, the other does not

>>129725197
Well yes but if our society were really set up that way your puss ass wouldn't be taking shit.

>>129725408
not much better

>>129725408
That's ableist

Report to your nearest gulag ancom larper

>>129724344
Not an argument.
>Lol I am too smart 4 U, no one will never undertand my genius
this is a 18+ board

>>129724192

I dont have to work for land owner

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>>129716247
>lolbertarians
You know....y'all would literally have a better chance of winning an election if you'd just let us do our thing first.
Help me help you.

>>129725627
It's not really an argument against anything - just highlighting the fact that you're dumb. Read Bookchin.

>>129725048
Violation of the NAP is not just an individual matter, you would be shot on sight if anyone learned about it

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have a minarchist phone background my fellow free market lads

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>>129716247
REEEEEEEE

STOP STEPPING ON ME

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>le Pinochet meme

>>129725787
Read X is not an argument either.
>I am not going for arguments
Then don't expect anyone to take you seriously

>>129716841
>autists are like 55% of the board

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Yeah!!...lets..smash bureaucracy...together

>>129725961
Well propose a flaw in my ideology and I'll counter it with an argument. You're asking for an argument but you've not really provided me anything to argue against, retard.

>>129724601
You'd be labeled as a pariah. No one would engage in trade with you. The rightful owners of the property you stole (the dead persons relatives) have the right to use force against you to reclaim their property. Additionally, they can sue you for wrongful death and require you to pay reperations.

>>129716540
That doesn't even look like a proper fasces. It looks more like some kind of dumbass dildo.

>>129725048
Third parties may intervene on behalf of those being victimized against (hence private police)
Let me ask you this. I make a chair, someone else farms some potatoes.
I decide to exchange it for the potatoes, thereby mutually recognizing property in a transaction.
The fuck you gonna do about it? HUH?

>>129726097
How abou the most basic, why would you think that abolition of property is going to work, when it's been part of human nature since their existence?

>>129724601
You ever heard of decapitation by guillotine, son?

>>129725197
Because all things are scarce and must be used by one person at a time
If everyone was entitled to everything there'd be constant fighting. Only through recognizing private property can conflict be avoided.

>>129723130
Then we end up with what we currently have.

>>129725023
Cool, I guess we're the only real anarchists then.
Sorry to burst your bubble :P

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>>129725342
I wish the admins would add the antifa flag

>>129726392
>muh human nature
just because it's never been tried before on a large scale (it has on small scales like hippy communes etc) doesn't mean it wouldn't work if it was

>>129726664
private property can only exist with a state though - without one it is pure abstraction

Dude you guys dont even need guns lmao this is 2017 nothings gonna happen. just sit back smoke a joint and listen to some chill music, peace and love bros, im out

>>129726004
>autists are 100% of the board

FTFY

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'Anarcho'-capitalism is an oxymoron. The anarchist movement from its inception has been against capitalism. Ancaps make the false assumption that anarchism is just against the state. Anarchism is about abolishing all forms of coercive hierarchy so that people may live freely. Capitalism is inherently hierarchical. All 'anarcho'-capitalism would achieve is the revival of feudalism.

>Introduction to Anarchism
https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf

>The Anarchist FAQ
http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA

>Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism?
http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF

>Anarcho-'Capitalism' is impossible.
https://c4ss.org/content/4043

>What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen

>The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

>Markets not capitalism
http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf

>>129726097
How do you stop people from creating a market and exchanging goods/products or selling their labor?

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>>129725945

>>129726890
Pure abstraction my ass.
I am the only one with direct control over my body. I own myself, plain and simple. My body is my PROPERTY.
Nothing abstract about that.

>>129727147
people would still be free to exchange goods if they so pleased but it wouldn't be necessary

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>>129727065

>>129725023

Proudhon's 'personal property' is really quite close to the market anarchist conception of private property. It just doesn't go far enough.

>>129727065
Are there no families in ancom communities? Adults can't tell children what to do right? Because thats a hierarchy?

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>>129726814
>what is Somalia since 1991

>>129726814
>Says he will counter with arguments
>first reply is literally what "if" level
>>129726890
private property can only exist with a state
Wrong, I could go live on a mountain,make my own tools and smash your face in with a self made club I owned and made with my own two hands. you see property exist even in animal kingdom, it is literally this essential. Try moving in a lion's den and tell me if property is not natural if you ever come out alive.

>B-but if you we take out every aspect of our humanity we can live peacefully all together
It's really laughable man

>>129727229
yeah, your body is personal property - not private property. proudhon defines the difference quite well if you'd like to read some opposition material. although i am aware it's normal for ancaps to surround themselves with confirmation biased material/

This flag stuff is so gay.

>>129727260
So, you actually support Individual Anarchism since the individual has the right to engage in a any style of economy that they want to.

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>>129727281

>>129727515
>This flag stuff is so gay.
It gets rid of the /int/ style posting

>>129727381
why do you assume that the ancaps will always win these fights for property, if i equally smash your face in and steal all your shit how is it not mine now?

>>129727434
You own your own body so it is private property

>>129727563
but there would be no currency or global markets or the likes, trade is casual - capitalism is a formal system

>>129727260
>it wouldn't be necessary

Cool utopia, bro. Before we get there, how do we make it happen? Market anarchism is the best means to achieving anarcho-communism. You're arguing about the end (one we all share, believe it or not), but your means are totally fucked.

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>>129726718
>I wish the admins would add the antifa flag
they already did... see >>129726970

>>129716247

I agree

>>129727701
personal property is like your body - inherent to you and in-abstract because it IS you. private property is property outwith your person which cannot be said to be yours without an abstract notion of property "rights"

>>129716247
>How do you do my fellow libertarians?

>>129716247
But who will pay for the launch pads?

>>129716247
We still need a state to build roads and control borders

>>129727628
It was more about, me defending my land than smashing someone's face because of their ideology.

>if i equally smash your face in and steal all your shit how is it not mine now?
In a civilized land (aka not an anarchist land) you will be going to jail. If what you are asking is in a hypothetical scenario where we both live out of civilization on our own seperate huts, then you take them as your own throught the right of conquest

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>>129716247
> This thread needs some serious wealth redistribution

>>129727578
The farmer who built on property that isn't his own violated the nap. Private courts and police evicting the farmer is a means of self-defense.

>>129727578
So socialism supports individual property rights based on occupation and usage? That sounds like Individualism to me.

>>129727998
YES I would go to jail in a civilized land - not an AnCap society though, there is no jail. Might makes right - correct. NOW YOU'RE GETTING IT.

>>129725929
>I'm a an anarchist, Atlas shrugged, let people voluntarily interact with each other!
>Oh no, I'm in trouble, better organize an army, a completely authoritarian organization, where people are expected to be used as assets to achieve the common goal
Cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics to try covering for it. Ancaps and libertarians are retards, who believe in the fair weather politics of selfishness.

People are tribal, people don't live as individuals, because if you are selfishly individualistic others won't trust you, won't sacrifice for you, you'll be on your own, and then other groups, who cooperate will bring you down. A mess of voluntarily fighting or working individuals is just as ineffective as completely authoritarian planned economy. But in planned economy you can at least cover for the very basics.

>>129724601
Poly centric law would kick in if either party had a security firm backing them. Also the security firm employed by whoever owned the land that the incident occurred on, would also deploy an investigation as well.

>>129727352
Capitalism and absentee ownership (private property) are underpinned by the state. Your claim to a second house is protected by a property title or deed which is recognised by the state and your unoccupied second house is protected by state police. You could pay for private police to protect your property, but in that case you are recreating the state.

>>129728105
It is individualism. Individualist Anarchism is a left wing anarchist theory.

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>>129727838

>O lawd, dey ain't talkin' 'bout dem juden. Dem be stoopit.

>>129728150
>not an AnCap society though, there is no jail
???

>Might makes right
this is correct as long as no laws exist

>>129728105
Individualist anarchism is anti-capitalist.

>>129728193
this guy was poor, he couldn't afford it. do we just forget about him because he was a dumb prole?

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>>129728150
Jail?Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha helicopter rides my friend

>>129728310
yes i'm glad we agree

>>129728150
Someone could establish a privitised Prison that makes profit from working with the private courts

>>129727434
Bold accusation coming from an ancom, talk about the pot calling the kettle nigger.
Anyway, I looked into your silly little utopians back in high school. I understand "personal property," it's a semantic point without any meaningful distinction from private property.
More to the point, you criticize private property for being an abstraction when you take the abstraction waayyy deeper.
Enforcing your "permissible" means of obtaining and using "personal property" requires the use of authority/force.
I'd like you to answer >>129726268 as that illustrates the problem pretty well.

>>129728455
sounds totally sensible and accountable

>>129716349
>black
>owns a car
kek

nice non-aggresion priniciple faggots, it would be a shame if someone didn't follow it

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>>129727578
An-Caps/Lolbergs may be annoying but this is just fucking retarded. His chart made sense, this one does not.

>muh jeffery tucker

>>129716540
>his symbol literally has a black boner
well, time to pack up, boys
we got cucked again

>>129727764
There's always been currency that arises out of convenience. The global market is just the international interaction between humans to buy and sell goods. You'd have to be retarded to think that that wouldn't exist while we have the internet. You seem to support a market economy yet you call yourself an ancom.

when did this happen

>>129723035
Anarchists are just the useful idiots of commies.

>>129728234
Individualism is extreme right wing in the USA

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>>129724330
I agree with this sentiment.

testing because I hate myself

>>129728221
>Capitalism and absentee ownership (private property) are underpinned by the state.

Well, for starters, I think terms like capitalism and socialism are anti-concepts. They work to fuck up our understanding rather than make it easier. Secondly, erecting this strawman instead of entertaining the market anarchists' conception of property for the sake of argument gets us nowhere.

Step outside of your comfort zone. You won't get this from everyone, sure but you will get it from me. Ancaps don't like me, because I'm a left-libertarian. They do the same stupid shit I am accusing you of, but under different circumstances. It just so happens that my economics are more closely aligned to the yellow than the red.

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>>129716540
That is a fucking cactus

>>129728513
Dude your doublethink is reaching critical mass.
You literally JUST advocated a system in which I could legitimately throw you into a forced labor camp if I could overpower you.
Now you're throwing out a criticism based on accountability? The possibility that a court wouldn't fulfill its duty?
Your system makes it impossible, and you criticize ancap for making it unlikely?
What the fuck is wrong with you? Where is your head?

>>129728513
still better than having nothing except gib gib gib as an ideology

>>129728475
i've already answered this - somebody else asked a similar thing. i have nothing against casual trade.

personal property is inherent to you - there's really not much more objective than that - you never paid for your personal property, you never engaged in capitalistic actions for it, it's you. private propety on the other hand is achieved through capitalistic actions. i don't get what you don't understand about this - it isn't just semantics, it's about the means in which you gained the "property"

>>129728899
we don't gib gib gib anything in this ideology - learn a bit about it before commenting

>>129728320
>Individualist anarchism is where the individual has control over himself and the products of his labor. That the underlying premise of capitalism. Property rights come into being out of convenience when you have an individualism based system.

Is this de-facto ancap general? Can I ask several questions here?
1) Can ancap/libertarian right be merged with nationalism?
2) How does ancap treat kids in general? They can't supply for themselves after all
3) What's the best way to get acquainted with ancap principles, even if in shallow manner?

>>129728827
I'm a left-wing market anarchist myself. I'd use an orange and black flag if they'd give us one, the gold and black is too deeply entrenched with alt-right fascists.

>>129728785
that's because you don't know what individualism anarchism is
>>129728863
>You literally JUST advocated a system in which I could legitimately throw you into a forced labor camp if I could overpower you.
i don't think i did - maybe you've got shit reading comprehension or something

>>129728941
>muh personal and public property
yeah just let literally anyone use any of the capital in the entire society... that would be a much more efficient allocation of resources than capitalism, right!?

>>129716247
>Communists = Statists
Dumb white boy

>>129729325
>communism
>only stateless in the final and complete "communism" stage, which is a priori impossible since ascarcity is impossible because humans will always compete for each and every resource
>until then a state is needed to force compliance into the transition

hmmmmmmmmm

>>129729266
>US Right wing = Individualism
>US Left wing = Collectivism

European left vs right is based on nationalism which is different, so you may be referring to that or just retarded.

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YEAH NIGGA, NOW /NSG/'s RIGGED POLL DON'T MEAN SHIT.

WE /POL/ NOW BITCH.

>>129728941
Nonetheless, your social system makes conflict a permanent feature.
If everything is communal, the tragedy of the commons would have no boundaries. Everyone would fight for and exhaust capital stock and put us back to the stone age.
Even if your system were implemented you'd see, by and large, a structure resembling property rights arise simply because it provides a framework in which conflicts may be settled and living standards may increase.
I'll admit, private property is an abstraction, but in a world of scarcity it's absolutely necessary.

>>129728221
>Your claim to a second house is protected by a property title or deed which is recognised by the state and your unoccupied second house is protected by state police.

The deed only grants to us fee simple title. The state keeps allodial title. We are opposed to not granting individuals (or collectives) the right to allodial ownership.

The state props up this system to limit our property ownership rights, not facilitate it.

>You could pay for private police to protect your property, but in that case you are recreating the state.

I don't think this is true. Collectives must also protect the rights of those in the collective. Ancaps usually accuse you of creating a state too. It's all the same. If we're going to keep arguing these strawmen, we will get nowhere.

If everyone enters into these protection contracts voluntarily, unlike with a state, and allowing for free competition in the same (including tolerating anarcho-communism), then it's not really a state. Governments force us to use their "protection" as a monopoly instead of letting us choose our own (or not to have it at all) whenever it suits us.

>>129729587
I'm a retard and can't pick a flag.

>>129728025
National Socialism is necessary for destroying the global evil of communism.

>>129728221
>live in house
>take a trip to get food
>come back to a guy occupying your home
>no one was using it, so I have the right to use it

>>129729259
>the gold and black is too deeply entrenched with alt-right fascists.

Truer words were never spoken. "right"-libertarians have lost their minds.

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>>129729571
>all communism is Marxist-Leninism

Read Kropotkin, faggot.

/pol/ will be neoconservative, you lawlbertarians are just as bad as leftists, kys.

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>>129728288
Your ideolgy is same as bad as communism

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>>129716247
>Throwing people from helicopters
>Libertarian
Pick one

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>>129730024
don't be a cuck, killing communists is always in defense of non-aggression.

>>129716247
Fuck off

>>129730024
in self defence

>>129729168
1)No, the whole point of any anarchism is that everyone is selfish and only cares about oneself. If it would be expected of you to care about others or your nation, it'd be really retarded to be a voluntarist, since the only point of anarchism is destroying the institutions that would cut the free lunch for the leeches. In an actual civilization if you contribute to the common goal you'll get rewarded, and rise in the ranks; in in voluntarism you either contribute or not. So you better not and just let others do the work.
2)You made it, it's yours.
3)Get brain damage.

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>>129729774

>>129730185
cry bitch we /pol/ now and forever.

>>129730276
woah dude, not cool. Rebel flag belongs to us.

>>129730160
Then can't I use the NAP to kill you because you'll throw me out of a helicopter if I don't?

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>>129729952

A lack of substance begets a lack of substance.

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>>129730160
>Initiating aggression against people because of their ideology

If they don't initiate the violence, who's the real commie, faggot?

>>129729168
>1) Can ancap/libertarian right be merged with nationalism?
Yes, theres some that say that the only way an ancap society can established is with fascism to come before it

>>129730404
the ones trying to abolish and destroy property. The communists.

>>129727434
>proudhon defines the difference
So? I don't care what some blowhard espouses I am me and I own me. Period.

>>129730241
>the whole point of any anarchism is that everyone is selfish and only cares about oneself
wrong

>>129730276
Not an argument, when the red guard comes and knocks on your door to take your property you will regret this!

I'm crashing this thread with no survivor
Also redpill me on arnacho conservatism

>>129730620
achievable through physical removal

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>>129730356
>woah dude, not cool. Rebel flag belongs to us.

>Muh Confederacy was a government: one that actively supported slavery.
>Somehow anarchist
>"right"-"lolbertarian" retard fucking up a perfectly good ideology.

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>>129730491
If you initiate aggression against someone because of their ideology, especially if they haven't done anything (yet), you've fallen for the Red Scare, friendo.

>>129730742
>physical removal
Of who?

>>129724952
If you read anything on the topic of property you would know that you can make no claim to land which you do not yourself work. I can claim that I own all of the universe but, without working it and transforming it from its natural state, My 'ownership' means nothing.

>>129729840
>live in a house
>go shopping
>gang of niggers broke the NAP and moved in
>try to reclaim your home, but you have no institutional help, so you try to raise an ad-hoc militia in the neighborhood
>"I don't care about you, neighbor, but you can hire me as a mercenary."
>tfw everything you owned is now in the hand of the niggers
>tfw they hire the mercenaries to kill you
>tfw you can't prove ownership, because there is no state register of property

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>>129730614
>Not an argument, when the red guard comes and knocks on your door to take your property you will regret this!

>>129716247
r-selection scum fears competition aka. Free Market
Communists and statis cucks get the rope.

>>129730241
>No, the whole point of any anarchism is that everyone is selfish and only cares about oneself
So state-enforced sharing makes us caring and selfless individuals?

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>>129730843
>he thinks niggers would exist in a society without welfare

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>>129730620
Its Hoppean AnCap/Libertarianism.
>>129730759
go back to /liberty/
I want straight white couples to be able to protect their cotton feilds with fully automatic assault rifles

>>129727628
You sound American, competition as opposed to cooperation.
This is why we can't have nice things, people like you with an attitude like that.

>>129730839
undesirables such as niggers, fags and anybody else taking away from the wholesome nature of the local community.

You don't like niggers, buy up private property in a town of like minded nigger haters, and agree to enforce a stict nigger free zone with your right to exclusion

>>129730516
So then the whole point of anarchy is to cuck yourself, so altruistic people self-sacrifice, while if you are the bottom of the barrel worst individual, but don't break the NAP you can thrive by exploiting them?

>>129730485
Thanks, what about the other 2 questions

>>129730880
Anarcho-capitalism can never work as long as there are other state actors or any large organized groups on this earth that have views that oppose yours.

>>129730770
a society where a population threatens to "seize the means of production", destroys property, and starts riots is not a libertarian society.

have fun with your tolerant communist shithole.
filthy left-rothbardian scum.

>>129727838
Like some cartoon band...Pepe and the Kekistans.

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>low iq individuals cannot comprehend propertarian anarchy

>>129731165
>your either entirely self interested to the exclusion of your friends and family or a cuck who is entirely self sacrificing

>>129724886
>"B.. B.. But this meme is..". *pushes out door* "staaaaaaaaall...."

>>129730377
Yea, go ahead, try it

>>129730843
>niggers break NAP
>assume that other ancaps won't rally behind you and turn theminto swiss cheese
Some of you faggots don't understand that the NAP is literally the backbone of the ideology and ancaps would never exist without it

>>129730997
>Its Hoppean AnCap/Libertarianism.
I know this, someone told me to read one of his book of which I don't remember the name.
>>129731100
I feel like national socialism and anarcho-conservatism could work together desu

we don't need roads where we're going

>>129731410
Forgot my flag..

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>>129731421

>>129716247
They brought back some of the old flags

Make this libertarian scum walk the plank!

>>129728025
You need some serious education

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>>129716540
More like Feces.

>>129731410
most likely Democracy: The God That Failed was suggested
http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf

>>129731649
That was the one. Great read?

>>129731649
The fuck is /pol/ up to today?

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I'll just leave this here.

>>129730843
>implying your neighbors don't know you
>implying you didn't bring your weapon with you shopping
>implying you can't get a (((loan))) to finance the mercenaries
>implying the niggers wouldn't have died of starvation due to the loss of their gibs

You just don't understand basic logic

>>129731223

That may be true for now.

>>129727578
>Voluntary is fucking stupid man...coercion rocks
*mindless droning continues*.

>>129716247
>tfw new flags

testing this out, definitely on board with getting statist shitters to fuck off though.

>>129731817
>weed legal
>alcohol legal
No.

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>>129731817
is your position that weed and alcohol is good
because

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>>129730377
>>129729895

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>>129716247

STATISTS GET OUT

>>129731793
pretty good, first part talks about W.Wilsons destruction of monarchies as part of the decline of civilization. Praises monarchy for a bit, then Hoppean Anarcho-Capitalism as the highest form of civilization.

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>>129731246
>filthy left-rothbardian scum.

Rothbard did his best work during his left years.

>>129716247
governments won't exist in about 300-500 years, it's an archaic slave-like system perpetuated by the inertia of history.

screen cap this.

>>129731300
Might be the biggest and maybe the only weakness of an cap.

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nazis we have bigger enemy's than each other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqFc5RDoJAM

>>129732085
also shits on faggy ancaps too. I liked that very much.
>>129732175
Wrong. Paleo is where its at. anyone who ignores his paleo stuff is without exception detrimental to the movement. remove yourself.

>>129732085
He also recommended a book by a french ancap from the 1900's, you wouldn't happen to know his name?

>>129728221
>but in that case you are recreating the state.
No you are creating employment in the form of private security.

>>129732319
probably THE LAW by Bastiat. haven't read it myself.

>>129730843
You really can't see the flaw in this line of thinking?

>>129725197
Collective ownership is the only abstraction here, bud. Consumption (which necessitates the idea of exclusionary, private goods ) is a prerequisite to continued existence.

You literally cannot survive without making a personal claim to property at least once every few days.

>>129719320
HAHAHAHAHA
Ancapcucks actually believe this?

>>129732472
I'm very spooked by your powers anon.

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>>129716247
Libertarians are just pink-pilled pussies that haven't swallowed the red pill pet!! "Anarcho-capitalism" ?! Hahahahah!!! You sound like the "there are "300 genders " people just making up some bullshit system out of thin air.
How the FUCK does sucking corporate did help our people? It doesn't.

>>129728516
It's probably an Oldsmobile

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>>129730997
>go back to /liberty/

A libertarian arguing against liberty.

FUCK THE STATISTS GAS THE KIKES NSTIONAK SOCIALISM IS THE ONLY WAY

>>129726097
How bout the XX century?

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>>129722475

>>129728166
>>Oh no, I'm in trouble, better organize an army, a completely authoritarian organization
>I don't understand the difference between volunteerism and coercion
Good thing I won't have to read the rest of that shit.

>>129732719
The fact that you are able to post here is only due to corparations.

>>129729571
>humans will always compete for each and every resource
But that's wrong, with the exception of deviant outliers, humans are social and gregarious. Cooperation is much more constructive, civilization is an agreement to cooperate, but as this thread shows, there will always be some individuals who suck at life and want to steal yours, and your shit.

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>>129732719

>shilling this hard
Enjoy your shekels.

Fuck off roadcucks

>>129716247
T H E O C R A C Y. N O W

>>129716247
Anarcho-capitalism is the worst ideology ever, my god.

>>129716841

This is actually true. Every time we do a strawpoll or a /pol/ parliament libertarians and nazis have roughly the same votes

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>he's not a nationalist libertarian

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>>129729168
>1) Can ancap/libertarian right be merged with nationalism?
Yes, you are free to associate yourself with anybody. The natural order of associations will occur.
Its a purer form of nationalism, because state nationalism dictates nation/people by mandate. Hitler ,for example, applied the term "Aryan" to a wide range of European people's. The nature of the state is to expand, and a nationalist state would have to expand the definition of nation (or in this case "Aryan") in order to expand its power.

>2) How does ancap treat kids in general? They can't supply for themselves after all

It goes like this.
A woman gives birth to a child without its consent. The child never asked to be born. However we cannot assume that the child never wanted to exist either. The child has been thrust into the world in a venerable, undeveloped state and the mother is responsible. It is the mother's duty to care of and equip the child with the means to survive in this world. This continues until the child reaches maturity. After which, the child can choose to forfeit life.

A similar scenario would be, a woman is driving a car and hits a man. This put him into a coma. He never consented to being in this state. And common knowledge would hold that he wouldn't. The victim has become like a child, requiring the attention of others to survive. The driver is responsible for his state and must take care of him until something happens, that be either death or a return to conciseness.

>3) What's the best way to get acquainted with ancap principles, even if in shallow manner?

Murray Rothbard
https://youtu.be/3F00Q4awROE

Lysander Spooner is a bit like a proto-ancap
Ludwig Von Mises is a minarchis,t but very relevant.
Then there's Hans Hermann Hoppe, who has his own brand of ancapism.

>>129733014
>The fact that you are able to post here is only due to corparations.

Stop being retarded. Corporations don't exist on the free market. Corporations are state-granted privileges granted to business entities.

>>129732849
He's arguing against your cucky no fun board not liberty as a principle. Looks like it's you who belongs on that bus.

>>129732719
you sure are fuckin' dumb. Read a book nigger.

Free trade = free people. Your Keynesian "natsoc" bullshit is just as bad as socialism. You can't effectively manage an economy any more than you can effectively manage people's vices.

You're a bootlicker plain and simple. Please don't complain when the government sends you to the gulag for speaking out about what you believe. If you don't believe in freedom you'd be doing the exact same shit to someone else given half the chance.

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>>129716247
The problem is that people think rights are given to them by the government, rather than realizing that in fact they are born with them.

>>129732646
I hang around the book club guys,.

>>129722002
Don't watch too much science fiction commie.

>>129731223
america wasted a lot of money in vietnam and afghanistan to discover that you are wrong. how nice of them, even though they did use OUR money

>>129732621
they turned germany from nazis to merkel
how was that possible?

>>129716247
NO TRUMP NO KKK NO FASCIST U.S.A

if i travel to an alternate dimension where i meet a copy of myself and i steal his stuff and kill him, is it a violation of the NAP?

hahaha, check mate, ancaps

>>129730160
I think communism conflicts with my primary political position, namely: I want to be left alone. If somebody were to try to take my neighbors house though, I would help him get in back, with the understanding there is a quid pro quo.

>>129732719
a corporation has seperate liabilities than an individual
I wonder what entity makes this absurd idea possible

>>129732621
Jews dont have competition right now because the state lets them get away with it

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>>129732217
>screen cap this
>implying it won't be engraved on a voluntarily purchased plaque in every home

>>129721264
>>129722002
>>129721867
Fuck off communist

>>129727065
Voluntary hierarchy is not exertion of power. On the other hand, if you forcibly forbid the hierarchical voluntary cooperation - like your ideology demands - then you are the de facto authority. You cannot protect an individual from himself. Don't be a statist.

>>129722614
I'm looking forward to working with you until you become non-useful then kill you all in one night.

Can you have slaves with ancap?

>>129732923
hello, ancap nazi here
the only way forward for white people is to save bitcoin, get smart, and bide our time.
your name says anon for good reason, nazi ideas can ruin your life still

>>129733899

>NO TRUMP NO KKK NO FASCIST U.S.A

Consistent market anarchist libertarians agree with you.

>>129734353
Depends if you see employment and contracts as slavery

>>129734353
>Can you have slaves with ancap?

No, do your homework and come back to us later.

>>129734353
Not technically
But if you find some folks who want to work on a plantation for food/clothing/healthcare, then you're a-ok

>>129734437
Maybe now the AnCap Nazi merger can finally happen.

Socialism will not bring whites to the promised land. Our intention, free markets have made us powerful.

>>129734531
>Depends if you see employment and contracts as slavery

>Rothbard argues against slavery contracts

>being this fucking stupid

Stop fucking up libertarianism, pls.

>>129734353
If you believe in ((surplus theft)) then every worker is a slave
under ancap, if you cant say "I quit" to someone that you wish to disassociate from (like brown people)
thats slavery, no it is not "allowed"

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>>129733899

>>129734353
No; slavery is involuntary

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The IRA was nAZBOL!

>>129734521
long term market libertarians that dont reddit space have a bit more nuance

>>129716247
Libertarians are responsible for all the Kekistan and /pol/ shield shit with all those neckbeard 40 y/o virgins at free speech rallies.

You've literally ruined the reputation of this board. The days of /pol/ being something edgy and funny are over thanks to you and your ideology's faggotry.

>>129734738
Walter Block makes a pretty compelling case for slavery contracts in ancap society

>>129735167
Nice meme faggot. Libertarians have always been the edgy cool kids.

>>129734954
>long term market libertarians that dont reddit space have a bit more nuance

Your statement constitutes its own example.

>>129734777
Shooting a man after throwing him out of a plan.

>>129735177

Walter Block is no Murray Rothbard.

>>129716247

>tfw a political ideology based around government control of the economy and freedom of movement is less statist than supposed 'liberals' are.

Your enemies are on the left, bruh.

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>>129735678
>Your enemies are on the left, bruh.

Enjoy your shekels, bro.

>>129716247
Try me fuck boi

>muh free markets
>muh individual liberty

Seriously who gives a shit about this stuff? Libertarianism is so fucking boring lol

>>129733427
Thank you very much. Saved

>>129735998
Not in favour of individual liberty? Well pick my cotton you fucking nigger.

>>129735998
>who gives a shit about having a stable societal system I'd rather go massive and get shut down in a few decades

>>129736289
If they don't believe in self ownership they might as well be my property.

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>>129724993
so you believe facism is the transition state to libertarianism?

>>129736451
Absolutely. If people were to be treatet according to their own political ideology most people would be an-cap and those who wouldn´t be would be slaves.

>>129728567
you think the people who see a person not following it will not do something agaisnt such a person?

>>129737833
I like you. You're a cool guy.

>>129731421
Without all of the fucking regulations most people would choose to fly. Their own planes.

>>129731962
sup mohammed.