Do snack foods contain estrogen in them? High amounts? I am

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>>129684622

>grow up obese
>lose 70 pounds last two years of highschool
>5'6 140 pounds and /fit/ as fuck
>turn 21
>start drinking
>few years later
>215 pounds 5'6

At least I'm down to 205. Smoking marijuana also increases the

>GYNO

I hear

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Normal how? The "normal" range for testosterone in most labs goes from 200 ng/dl - 1200 ng/dl, an absolutely monumental difference can be observed with a difference of 200-300 ng/dl

"in range" does not mean normal.

Also how are you alive eating like that?

>>129684622
soy
everywhere

>>129684914
Yeah it's insane the amount of calories in alcohol.

>>129684914
>start drinking
Yep. The alcoholic Jew is the biggest roadblock to being /fit/, unfortunately. Now I only drink on special occasions

>>129684622
Holy shit are Amerifats really this retarded?
>eat shitty snack foods
>develop man breasts
>clog up arteries so much your dick can't get enough blood
>omfg it must be oestrogen in the food!

You deserve to die of heart disease you fucking morong

>>129684622
wtf is this shit copy pasta...
if not real then why the fuck would anyone just eat shit snacks. Its honestly manageable but I dont recommend it if you dont have a lifestyle so your eating habits dont backfire on you. I work as a roofer and I see some of the laborers drink beer & cokes and eat shit all day but thats because theyre lifting heavy ass shingle bundles and generally laboring away in Texas heat from 8 to 8.

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>>129684992
>>129684997

I lost 10 pounds the last few months. Starting to exercise more and not drinking 5/7 nights a week. Shits rough m8s

>>129684914
Eat only chicken and salad with some olive oil and you'll be fit in no time.
Its amazing that people who are huge from drinking get surprised that I'm 99% a teetotaler.

>>129684962
>soy in everything
This. Also apparently these xenoestregens are in nearly everything processed or contained in plastics

>>129685212
Yeah I quit a month ago after a 3 day water fast. Now I'm doing keto. Shit is so cash.

>>129684622
Every single plastic has an estrogen mimicker added to it, which secretes out of the plastic to contaminate food and water.

Bisphenol A (BPA) was the famous one that got caught, so every company put a sticker on their bottle saying, "BPA Free!"

Because they replaced the BPA with other, DIFFERENT estrogen mimickers instead.

They are REALLY fucking adamant about putting human hormone mimickers in all the plastic. Does it add to the plastic? Does it make it stronger, or cheaper, or look better, or anything at all?

No, human hormones ONLY effect humans.

Now the next question is, "Who is doing this?"

>>129685280
Keto is like playing on ez mode. You don't even get hungry anymore. It's not good for you long term, but I do enjoy using it to cut.

to even produce testosterone you need cholesterol. The cheese from cheetos probably has close to none if any. Taco Bell is his only source of cholesterol.

>>129685322

gonna need some actual proof here, give me some random study that says coca cola bottles sold TODAY have chemical X which is an estrogen variant. now.

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>>129685280

Joe Rogan?

>>129685361

Would KETO make building muscle harder? I may be a fat fuck but I still consider myself athletic underneath.

>>129684914
he doesn't do drugs of any sort but I have heard that too.

>>129684928
His T is around 650. I'm not sure how he is alive his bloodwork is normal as well. I think it has to do with being young but I can see him being very sick in a few years.

>>129685117
he isn't fat though. He is skinny but has breast tissue so thats why I am thinking estrogen.

>>129685136
not pasta. Interesting that you think its worthy of being pasta though. He eats this way because no one taught him how to eat properly, his parents ate this way too.

>>129685322
Are you saying the plastic gets in the food? He doesn't drink from plastic bottles or anything he just eats a continuous supply of chips.

>>129685402
his T levels are normal but I will tell him that he needs to eat more foods with cholestorol if it will help. thanks anon

>>129684622

gyno is genetic

most people who think they have gyno don't. like the guy in your OP, he's clearly obese. If he lost weight his man boobs would go away.

people with gyno will have large man boobs even when they're average weight or even under weight. They're like cysts in a way, or literal female boobs. Little sacks of fat that have to be sucked out.

>>129684622
No he has bitch tits because his diet is fuck all.
On a side note though Taco Bell is probably the "healthiest" fast food place you can eat at.
But fuck all it's still loaded with preservatives as well despite being precooked, frozen and reheated when needed.

As far as the ED goes how much does he fap, porn and or fuck?
Also are you aware of if he's harboring any shit from a previous relationship?
Desensitization is one hell of a factor in ED.
Stop fapping.
Stop fucking around with porn period.
His dick will be ready to smash some poon in 2 weeks maximum.
He needs to fix his fucking diet though.
Also start taking vitamins and shit.
The mid 20s to 30s are a downhill slope if you live like a sloth and eat like shit.

>>129685547
Keto is a diet consisting of only fat and protein. It's muscle sparing, and the high protein will help with your newb gainz

>>129685213

Sounds pretty good . . . I planned on drinking liqour tonight. I heard one asshole say

>i just drink voldka
>less calories

Aren't you afraid of organ failure though?

>>129685594
yeah this guy is skinny yet has breasts. Not huge breasts but they are obviously breasts. So you think its only genetic based and not related to diet?

>>129685654
He watched tons of porn growing up but its come to the point of him not being able to get it up for porn. He does not fap anymore or have sex at all. It has been months since he has been sexually active or even felt the desire to be that way. He was not like this a year ago so I am wondering if it is hormones in the food. I know that birth control pills cause women to lose their sex drive and they contain estrogen so I am wondering if there is a link.

His relationship is also fine he lives a pretty stress free life.

>>129685214
>Thai people are mostly lactose intolerant
>Soy milk everywhere
This is probably why ladyboys are a thing there long before the west.

t. lived there for 20+ years

>>129685575
>>129685402

what the actual fuck. Cholesterol CAUSES man boobs (and weight gain / clogged arteries overall).

It's not even a vegan thing. If you go and kill a wild animal it won't have any cholesterol. Meat that is factory farmed has it added in to fatten up the cow

If they use cholesterol to fatten up farm animals, you really think that's something you should put into your body?

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>>129685703
>>129685703

>mfw I have to lose all the weight over again

My mental health is pretty fucked right now. I figure getting /fit/ again will aid in stress management / hormones etc etc

(and i guess the bitches / nice clothes too)

>>129685402

forget to add. Butter, cheese, milk. All packed with cholesterol. All loaded into typical junk food / fast food.

He's gettin a shit load of cholesterol. tell him to get his blood work done

>>129685924
Yeah I thought it was kind of weird advice too I always though cholesterol was seen as the devil in food.

>>129685998
his blood work was completely normal. His doctor even said that he was in optimal health. His cholesterol was great. They do not do an estrogen panel on that test though so thats why I am thinking estrogen. He already got his T checked too and its normal. I honestly do not know what else could be causing him these problems but the food because I assume eating that way is destroying his body.

>>129685924
>>129685998
>>129686012
>cholesterol is bad

maybe it's because he's a stationary retard who puts no exertion on his body

lift weights faggot

gudnight pol

or good morning

its 511am. i will look into KETO fo sho

>>129684914
Drinking beer does aswel

>>129685575
It's alright mate, I know you're talking about yourself.

In all seriousness though, ever heard of the term skinnyfat? You can weigh quite little but still have a very high % of body fat. Basically your shitty diet and lack of exercise is giving you manboobs and ED.

The fact that all the Americans in this thread are completely clueless about this makes me facepalm.

>>129686124

It's probably estrogen then. And dairy is probably the culprit. Different people react differently to dairy, but milk is the worst for you.

>>129686211
hurr durr muh fellow 150 lb anons on /fit/ told me cholesterol was good even though the president of american cardiologists, american council of diabetes, and the american cancer society all with over 100 phds together have published peer-reviewed scientific journals on the negative effects cholesterol has on the body

GOMAD = man boobs, clogged arteries, diabetes, constipation, IBS, cancer, and heart attack

>>129684622
Look dude. I've had mild gyno since high school. It's awful. Others likely barely notice it but it really bothers me.

It's got a genetic component but it's massively impacted by diet. For me: more beer makes it worse.

It should be obvious our food has shittons of chemicals in it, but your diet is horrific. You have to change cause your diet is worse than being a druggy or alcoholic.

>>129686211
Do you think that men need to work out to feel healthy? Does not working out cause mental illness and sexual dysfunction? I had this theory because he does not work out at all. When I think of a man I think of a man on the hunt running around all day and scaling mountains for food. I do not think it is very manly to sit around and do nothing, does this lifestyle destroy a man?

>>129686331
yeah I would say he is skinnyfat. I am also not him I am just really close to him and concerned.

>>129686236
>i will look into KETO fo sho
It's the best. Bacon. All day. Course also No Salt for potassium, and some magnesium supplements.

I'll probably die of mercury poisoning lads, I literally refuse to have a meal without fish.. Can't explain it, my knob starts to tremble at the thought of fucking shell fish bros, gets my cock so goddamn hard.

Worst part I got sent to Korea while in the army and ate squid jerky and liked it, I realized I had a serious problem while I was snacking on sun dried squid anuses that not even Koreans ate.

>>129684914
stopped reading at 5'6"

>>129684622
Go Paleo faggot! I still drink pints and eat fries though ahahah.

>>129686449

>The Natural Resources Defense Council has a list of fish that contain the lowest levels of mercury. These include anchovies, catfish, flounder, hake, haddock, herring, salmon, trout, whitefish, pollock, mackerel, sardines and butterfish.

catfish is bretty good m8, go for that

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>>129684622
>tfw high est
feels good man

>>129686365
hurr durr numale cuckold faggot who's never lifted weights projecting about his gyno

top lel loser, cholesterol is essential and great. "low fat" was a popular meme for how long? and how wrong they were.

>>129686411
yes. exercise is more important than diet, as long as you're not guzzling kilos of sugar every day

>>129684622
>a man close to me
a man close to me
>a man close to me

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>>129684622
>tfw raging gyno

I've lost so much weight that I went from obese to normal (6' 0" 175 lbs) but it doesn't really help because even though the gyno is down, it's even more noticeable without all my fat. I've done the dieting and now it time to start working out. If I get rid of my fat AND get swole, will the gyno be less noticeable/more tolerable? Hell, those disgusting female bodybuilders made their tits disappear; can I accomplish the same?

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>>129685322
Identify the xeno-estrogen in polyethylene or BTFO forever.
pro tip: you can't

>>129686629
what about it is important for men? Just curious of the science behind it.

>>129686842
I honestly think gyno is kind of cute but not everyone will think so. Surgery an option?

>>129686629

I'm trying to help any anons who have gyno. You're trying to worsen or cause them to have gyno. Hopefully they're smart enough to talk with an actual nutritionist and not some retarded bong on a malaysian catfishing website.

"Low fat" means nothing. There's saturated fats, trans fats, omega 3s, etc. Only an absolute fucking retard would advise someone who has gyno to eat saturated fat and trans fat.

The USDA is banning trans fats because it's so fucking bad for you but they're letting food companies sell out their last supplies for 3 more years before they ban it.

Omega 3 fatty acids are the only healthy fat you should ingest if you want a 100% perfect healthy diet. It's found in fish, seaweed, algae, beans, nuts, etc.

Omega 6 fatty acids aren't bad for you but aren't good for you either. You should ingest it occasionally. It's found in cooking oils. Coconut oil, flax seed oil, sunflower oil, vegetable oil, etc.

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>>129686629

>exercise is more important than diet

Are you fucking stupid, a twig, or a fatass? Because that is some bullshit you just stated.

Diet is just as important if not even more important than exercise. You can maintain a healthy looking body with a right ratio of macros and right amount of calories even if all you're doing is walking to and from work.

However, you can have the most amazing workout routine in the world, the perfect amount of each free weight ex, but if you're eating too little and with shitty ratio, you're going to injure yourself and if you eat too much with shitty macro ratio, you're going to look flabby as fuck.

TL:DR You're a stupid mother fucker

In addition to all the other crap they put in snacks they're full of salt, fat and sugar. These items will cause cravings and stopping will be very difficult.

My diet consist of only salmon, vegetables and bread. And a good multivitamin at each meal. Water coffee and orange juice for liquids. Never had a single a health issue in many decades.

Diet for a warring population;
dominated by meat.

Diet for a healthy population;
dominated by fish.

Diet for a spiritual population;
dominated by pulses and vegetables.

>>129687223

like they say, 6 packs are made in the kitchen. you're spot on.

That last bit of visceral fat won't go away until you get your shit diet straightened out.

>>129686365
Low fat is a meme from the eighties. A few more eggs and slices of cheese really won't hurt. Just don't overdo it

>>129684962
This

>>129687442

That's because retarded americans cut out all fat instead of just the trans fats and saturated fats that the actual cardiologists and nutritionists told them too.

Fun fact: Eggs aren't allowed to be advertised as healthy in the U.S. because they're so fucking bad for you. Any bodybuilder who tells you to eat eggs is a fucking amateur. There's food out there with a higher ratio of lean protein that is cheaper and not gonna fuck you over.

>>129686941
exercise means hormone production, muscle damage, getting your blood pumping. what humans are meant for. if you dont exercise you whither and decay. your body's natural systems are built around exertion and need exercise to function and improve.

>>129686946
nobody advises anyone to consume trans fat, retard

>Omega 3 fatty acids are the only healthy fat you should ingest if you want a 100% perfect healthy diet

lmao what a fucking retard. all fats should be consumed in a balanced manner and are essential (except for trans fats)

>>129687223
it literally is. diet is not unimportant but if you want rapid improvements, exercise is way more important. lifting weights vs jogging for 2 houts will yield massively different results. if you have a perfect diet and dont exercise when you're in shit shape like OP's pic, you will remain that way for much longer if you dont start exercising and kick your body's systems into gear.

maintaining a modern "healthy looking" skinnyfat body for 50 years with no exercise puts you at risk of heart and circulation problems.

>>129687415
cool bro science but both diet and exercise are important, with exercise taking the lead

>>129687604

I thought Europeans weren't so anti-science, anti-facts, and anti-logic?

>The American Heart Association recommends limiting saturated fats – which are found in butter, cheese, red meat and other animal-based foods. Decades of sound science has proven it can raise your “bad” cholesterol and put you at higher risk for heart disease.

>>129687563
eggs are bad for you? Are you sure?

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>>129686941
Not going to lie: surgery terrifies me. Ever since I started learning about the brain and how it works, anesthesia is just too spooky. I'd like to avoid surgery at all costs (also, the cost is an issue since right now I can't really afford both the surgery and the related expenses).

Also, you can say what you will about it, but I hate looking in the fucking mirror. I only wear loose button down shirts with breast pockets that disguise the gyno. It works in that most people don't know I have it, but it sucks having not worn a t-shirt in public in years. I guess I could because some people do (pic related), but it's not even about how other people perceive me. It's about how I perceive myself.

>>129687563
>There's food out there with a higher ratio of lean protein that is cheaper and not gonna fuck you over.

Such as? Eggs are incredibly cheap and convenient

Everything with soy.

>>129684622
When men are in puberty they often have breasts.

http://www.cyh.com/HealthTopics/HealthTopicDetails.aspx?p=114&np=304&id=1918
>About 65% of normal healthy males have growth of some breast tissue around puberty. It is caused by the hormones that lead to the other changes of puberty.

Maybe he just has extended puberty or late puberty. Or maybe he's just obese.

Milk and beer is full of estrogens.

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>>129688098
Stop drinking milk.
Drink fermented kefirs.
Soy sauce is also fermented thus safe.

>>129687563
What's better than eggs then?

>>129687673
you type like a butthurt woman

stay btfo vegan cuck

>>129688187
Everything you buy in store is contaminated with industrial process. Natural milk isn't even similar to store milk. Fruit isn't similar, vegetables aren't similar. And it all has chemicals, either through spraying or soil it's grown in. Grow your own and you won't have titties, you won't be obese and you will be healthy.

>>129688187
kefir is the fucking shit my family

>>129688304
I buy shit from my local farmer. Check mate.

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>>129688319
What's your opinion on salty turkish Ayran?

>>129688362
How do you know your local farmer isn't using bones to feed his animals and how do you know he doesn't sprays? Does he even have animals outside or are they locked inside? Same question for vegetables. First thing you notice with homegrown chicken is that it's not tender. First thing you notice with homegrown strawberries that they are tender.

>>129687673

>I thought Europeans weren't so anti-science, anti-facts, and anti-logic?

We aren't. it's just this guy who is clearly fucking retarded.

>>129687604
>it literally is
It LITERALLY isn't. Again, try consuming 500 calories a day, all of it Fat and see how far your routine will take you, you absolute mongoloid

>>129684622
Those fucking tits hahahaha

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>>129684622
>a man close to me
You mean you

>>129685924
Well, to much chol is bad, but your body uses it in the production of T

>>129688424
lol, never seen that one.
pic related is what the grocery stores sell here, obviously still gets jew'd in the creation process but better than nothing

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>>129688637
You know you can make your own kefir, right?

>>129688498
i literally said diet is important, but not as important as exercise, which is 100% the case if you've ever tried taking lifting and getting into shape seriously

try reading comprehension faggot

>>129688637
>>129688774
Which yogurt variant has the highest amount of protein?

>>129687952
beans, lentils, fish, sunflower butter / almond butter/ any nut butter

1 cup of beans has more protein than 6 eggs and is actually healthy for you. and the cheapest thing you can buy

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>>129688774
I used to have kefir seeds and you put them in liquid for some time and voila you had kefir.

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>>129688908
Balkan yoghurt.

>>129688992
Well in my local supermarket I have to pick between 'normal' yoghurt, Greek, Bulgarian and Turkish

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Seems like kefir doesn't even needs milk.

>>129685973
>mfw I have to lose all the weight over again
Been there bro. That first year out of college was rough for me before I got back on track. Now I'm much more in control of my life than I was before.

>>129688935
I already try to eat a lot of beans. Should I eat the red, black or white ones?

>>129688774
teach me, fampai. although I'd still need to get the milk from the store so that'd be jew'd too.

>>129688820

Okay, this is how I know you have an IQ below 100 for sure. If exercise is MORE important, than you would look better if you ate 500 calories worth of fat with good routine, than if you ate great ratio but simply walked around.

>>129689130

black are healthiest, but any bean is fine. Just whatever you like best

if you're trying to gain weight use rice protein powder if you're gonna use a protein powder. it's the only one that won't fuck your liver over long-term use

>>129688820
>diet is important, but not as important as exercise
pants on head retarded

>>129689230
nice "le extreme example" non-argument. sorry you don't lift my man.

>>129689313
cool leafpost

>>129689097
Did you make it yourself? I hope that is not your jizz jar

>>129684622
3 easy steps:

1. Probably he gets not much sunlight:
>Vitamin D supplements

2. Eat a lot of fish: they have zinc and usually a lot of omega-3 fats. They both increase testosterone

3. Exercise

If this won't help at least a little bit after a few months seek medical help, because it might be caused by some other illness

>>129689357
Tastes like lemonade, but healthier. Jizz probably doesn't taste like much.

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>>129684622
i have the same problem. i'm quite skinny, but with some muscle because i work out few days every week, but i still have manboobs. and i know for sure, that it isn't gyno. i was like 14 when they suddenly started to grow and i'm currently 22.
i eat mostly clean and i get over 100g of protein every day, so i'm not sure what causes it. my dad also has small manboobs, so maybe it could be bout genetics

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If you want to drink just switch to whisky it's only beer that will give you titties, is wine even bad ?

>>129689789
Depends what wine, some wines in stores are artificial and haven't seen much grapes.

>>129684622
>eats shit food with 0 nutritional value
>no physical activity
>complains about having man boobs
get a labor job fagot, better skinny than obese

>>129684622
I'm convinced there's SOMETHING in the foods we eat en masse. Western girls develop womanly figures at a young age and we have a lot of effeminate males.

>>129684622
I have eaten shit my whole life and gone near half of it without testosterone and I'm fat and I don't have tits like you kids do. No idea what the fuck you guys are doing wrong.

>>129689789
I only drink vodka and wine, wine is fine.

>>129688187
>>129688319
>kefir
literally the cure to cancer.

>>129690187
Indians seem to have a problem too:
http://www.firstpost.com/living/growing-epidemic-male-boobs-india-bollywood-blame-diet-2284430.html
So my guess is that now India is importing and using chemicals for industrialization, since they are basically dump for such things, that probably gives them boobs.

>>129690138
>effeminate males.

It's more likely boomers reproducing at late ages + estrogen entering the water supply after it's been pissed out of women who are on birth control. You fags complaining about gyno and chubbiness and shit. I got an androgynous chick figure. Suck it fags.

>>129684622
Does your friend like to get his nipples sucked ?

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>>129691191
>mfw I discovered recently that most guys don't associate nipple stimulation with sexual pleasure, but I do

Explains a lot

>>129690800
>http://www.firstpost.com/living/growing-epidemic-male-boobs-india-bollywood-blame-diet-2284430.html

Wew, from that article:

"This sudden rise in the male breast reduction surgeries in India and the world can be attributed to the growing obsession about the 'ideal' body which one should have."

Maybe as men they don't want tits because it looks fucked up and unnatural? This isn't some "oh it's a fad" it's an issue of boys growing gross boobs.

All I can think is it has to be a recent change in the last 20-30 years, because as a 40-something, none of my mates from school had the problem.

Then again, none of my friend's three teen sons has the issue, but they're all very active if not proper athletic.

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>>129684622
It's mostly in the milk

he needs to get his estrogen levels checked.

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>>129684622
My diet is shit so can i get a body rate pls?

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>>129691602
belongs in /soc/

but i'd suck your dick

>>129691268
>can be attributed
>can be
But not necessary. They are guessing, but will never blame companies, because then their little newspaper will be sued.

>>129692515
Isn't exposing companies filling our kids with mutating hormones what journalists should do?

Oh right, sorry I'll go back to the '50's

>>129684622
Fat lowers T. Snacks are full of sugar your body metabolized into fat. Lower T means you convert less calories into muscle and then you accumulate more fat

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>>129685322
((Who)) indeed

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>26
>cant grow facial hair
>manboobs since early puberty
>too ashamed to do any sports publicly throughout entire teens
>was skinny, but started drinking 4/7 lots of beer so now have some visible fat
>this makes the manboobs worse
>no excercise seem to shrink it
>tfw
just end me

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>>129684622

Part of the tranny conspiracy. The trannies run everything. They gender swap the people on TV to warp our perceptions, so we don't see them all around us.

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>>129693655

>>129693781
Wtf is this new flag thing btw?

>>129693842
>Wtf is this new flag thing btw?
>new
You have to go back

>>129693902
No. Choosing the ones douche

>>129693157
Are you me? fucking hell, the facial hair shit is the worse tbqh

>>129693959
You. Have. To. Go. Back

>>129693902
Literally just started lol

>>129693959
*new ones

>>129693965

>facial hair shit

You end up looking like a numale faggot most of the time

>>129693959
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>>129693781
kys

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>>129694095
No.

>>129684914
Similar experience to me except I am 6ft5in, went from 230 to 180 then back to 210 because I discovered I liked vodka... back down to 190 though!