What does /pol/ think of Buddhism? It's certainly not some

>>129670989
>All about finding inner peace
>Spreads through invoking deep-seated emotions of wanting a fulfilled soul rather than killing non-believers
>Charitable
>calm
>loving

Truly a religion for degenerates, right? hahaha, why would ANYONE want to fulfill their soul by solving what ails them through meditation?

Nah, its good.

>>129671328
It doesn't sound bad, but it sounds like something that can really only exist in a vacuum, with no threat or competition. What happens when something more militant comes knocking on the door?

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>>129670989
Buddhism is the belief that the universe is so unrelentingly shitty that it is a moral imperative to commit spiritual suicide so that you never have to experience anything again.

The only reason Buddhism was not a short-lived suicide cult is that ancient Indians believed in reincarnation.

>>129670989
Buddhism is pure death, void and emptiness.

Life begins with accepting Christ as your savior.

Think about it and choose what makes sense

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>>129671328
You may want to google the history of Buddhism before the next time you inadvertently spread Buddhist propaganda, anon.

>>129670989

There's some universal truths in it, like meditating and growing your sense of self into a real soul, spending time in introversion to find out what you are beyond the world and all of society's conditionings upon you. But it's a catch 22, like all universalistic religions. They ignore the laws of nature, and thus fuck up the structure of the planet. It's theorized that it helped contribute to the death of Aryan India because it did not make a distinction between the races, and thus miscegenation occurred more rapidly there (Buddha was an Aryan prince, btw, with green eyes).

Besides National Socialism, there's yet to be a religion (and yes, NS and fascism are religious in essence) on this planet that would help the individual spiritually and also maintain and progress a collective society.

>>129671529
I asked a friend this, and he told me it doesn't matter as you're supposed to focus on yourself. If you remain focused on yourself and die, oh well, you'll be reincarnated with less karmatic debt.

Personally I really don't like how passive Buddhism is. It sounds great, like you said, if it exists in a vacuum. But theres people out there who will kill you for your shoes. You can't live in peace side by side with those.

I also really don't like how the end goal is to shed all bad karma and basically go into non existence, as apparently that's the only way to relieve suffering. Like, what the fuck is the point if in the end theres literally nothing.

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>>129670989

>>129671328
Buddhists don't even believe in the concept of a soul/self.

>>129670989
Don't care. Benign.

>>129672604

>What's the point?

The point is that there's a higher reason for living besides manifested existence, the physical reality, that there's a spiritual reality that is much richer and closer to the source of creation that can be lived in as well. Crossing over into that is called breaking the cycle of samsara (the endless cycle of birth and death, your soul being stuck here in an endless loop because it is only paying attention to the material world, ignoring spiritual possibilities). This is a very profound concept, but like you say, Buddhism ignores manifestation to such a degree that it cancels out all practicality, and for sure won't help evolve a civilization.

>>129672933

That's true, pretty much. They say that you are stuck in the ego, and that you need to dissolve in the universal consciousness or emptiness. The soul is the one who experiences that universal consciousness - they never asked, "Who is experiencing this enlightenment?" and thus they fail.

>>129671529
They are good kebab removers tho anon great warriors, but only fight when needed.

The Tao is the best religious text if you can even call it that

>>129673177
Sounds like you're mixing Buddhism with heaven. Heaven is a positiv concept, a place, an alternate reality. Nirvana just means "extinguished", the goal isn't to attain any state or reach a higher reality, but more to go deeper into reality and see it clearly without the lens of self. Realization of no-self and disassociation from ones desires it what leads to nirvana.

Its good, more of a lifestyle than religion. I studied it for several years. Fundementally, it teaches you that all life is suffering. Not that life cannot be enjoyed, but that you suffer even when having pleasure, because you are always wanting pleasure. Its essentially about being mindful that life will always involve suffering and you must find peace within yourself.

But this belongs in >>>/lit/

discourage religion threads in /pol/

>>129670989
none of you play with buddism unless your ready to give your lives away it messes with your minds if you get stressed or angry, there is also things of people getting insane and desyncing from reality

t. religion researcher

>>129673318
>they never asked, "Who is experiencing this enlightenment?" and thus they fail.
That's a huge part of meditation. There are entire books on questioning who or what is experiencing the thoughts and sensations, it's kinda the whole point.

>>129673447
religion is political you fucking mong

>>129673439

I'm mixing it with a teaching I follow, yes, which says nirvana is essentially worthless if you don't realize who is experiencing it (the soul).

Buddha did have a goal, though. He wanted liberation from suffering, and it almost killed him in his attempt for it.

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>>129672227
Reminder that tripz or more between dubz is the world of Melek Taus

>>129670989

buddhism is based. it's like a form of moral nihilism.

>life is suffering, suffering is caused by attachment and desire. these can be destroyed or overcome

there is a ton of great philosophy in buddhism, especially the bardo. which is the closest thing buddhism has to a hell; a state between death and rebirth where your soul experiences judgement for all good/negative karma. in essence you are actually being punished by being reborn to suffer and relearn all the lessons your spirit had experienced in past lives.

only problems i have with the prophet gautama is it is written from the perspective of a spoiled rich prince born into the kshatriya class, a type of warrior nobility in ancient nepal. so it's like privileged and bougie in that way that's why so many hippie new age backpackers are into it

>>129670989
Well for one, it isn't a western religion, no matter how you want to twist it, Buddhism is an EASTERN religion. Some people cannot comprehend that.

Secondly, Buddhism is usually politically left-wing, especially western people whom practice the religion. I have the image that a western Buddhist is the "yo bruh spirituality dude" type of person, they do not want to seem weak or embrasse by practicing organized religion, so they compromise with "spirituality" and throw in "enlightenment" as a way to seem like intellectuals.

It isn't a bad religion, but it is neither a good religion for western values. Also, apatheism usually leads towards favoring left-wing ideals

>>129673699
>He wanted liberation from suffering, and it almost killed him in his attempt for it.
When he was starving himself at the very beginning, before he found the middle path that became central to Buddhist belief.

>>129673415
Tao is badass.

>>129673740
>moral nihilism is obviously helping Europe atm

>>129670989
>Buddhism
Everything is suffering
Better give us your money.

>>129673415
tao te ching, but I agree. Most concise book of wisdom on the planet, and lots of parallels to stuff Christ said.

>>129672227
>(Buddha was an Aryan prince, btw, with green eyes).

I thought it was blue eyes, since Buddha was said to have all the 32 signs of a great man, one being blue eyes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_characteristics_of_the_Buddha

>>129673486
>also things of people getting insane and desyncing from reality

Cases like that aren't surprising, since it sounds like most of the teaching is that the physical world is suffering, and that the "real realm" is separate from this one. Isn't the natural response to pain to withdraw from it?

>>129673874
From what little I know of Taoism, I can get behind it since it seeks to embrace both the shadow and light side of humanity, not repress one or the other.

>>129673549

Yes, but Buddhism says this is false, that there is no self or soul, and that you must do away with this observing consciousness to reveal reality. I believe this is an incomplete way that will hardly ever work. Who you really are in essence is as important as realizing god, and god doesn't want to commune with someone that basically believes in murdering/ignoring himself.

>>129673788

Yes, that's true about the beginning (sadhu path), but the middle path he was doing failed him also. When the middle path he was doing failed, he said he would sit under the Bodhi tree and reach enlightenment or die. That's not a middle ground he took at the end. It was a very extreme and desperate approach to quench his yearning.

>>129674038

I might be wrong about his eye color. I read that years ago. Could be blue, but he was Aryan.

Buddhism is a beta tier philosophy where you fill yourself with nothingness. You think nothing, feel nothing, are nothing. Christian morality would call the Buddhists "peace" despair

Buddhism is a peasant religion, designed to keep the people silent while the ruling class shits on them.
It's definitely nigger-tier.

>>129674320
The "32 signs of a Great Man" attributed to Buddha are interesting to say the least.

"Toes and fingers finely webbed"
"Area below armpits well-filled"
"Eyelashes like a royal bull"
"Fleshy protuberance on the crown of the head"
"Well-retracted male organ"

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>>129670989

'Right Speech' is an obstacle for most of us here

otherwise gives an accurate assessment of the problem and the solution:

Anicca Anatta Dukkha
Sila Samadhi Prajna

>>129673447
Why did you stop studying it?

Did you have any objections to it?

a jew on a stick, turning the other cheek would say otherwise

>>129673486
>it messes with your minds if you get stressed or angry
I would have thought that Buddhists could deal with stressful or anger-inducing situations better, what kinds of problems are there?

>>129670989
It's more of an aesthetic philosophy than a religion in the modern sense of the word. Unfortunately, that aesthetic base is also why it is most probably wrong. (Nevertheless, contains some good ideas.)

>>129670989
daily reminder that buddism is a religion that colaborates with demons

>>129675085
t. christcuck pole

>>129675190
Buddhism, in the more supernatural varieties, admittedly collaborates with what they would themselves call demons.

>>129674961

I think he's talking about people that go insane from vipassana meditation retreats, which I've heard of before and can see how it happens. They are usually new to meditation, and then all of a sudden are forced to sit with closed eyes on the ground for 10 hours a day (some breaks to eat some rice), and simply can't take the chaos of their fragmented minds and snap.

>>129673740
I guess it doesn't matter who discovers a truth as long as it's indeed the truth.

Something that gets on my nerves about religion in general, the founder is often an ordinary guy who makes some sort of discovery, but centuries later he's elevated to level that you can't criticize. Like muhamud, you can't even draw his face, mudslimes would do well to admit that he screwed up and even alluh probably got annoyed at him, but they (irrationally) police themselves.

I like how it is about achieving peace for yourself, but it is indifferent and nihilistic in tone.

>>129675190
t. regular cuck burger
>>129675440
bhuddism is literally religion that tryies to bind demons to one's will
and to do that one must clear his mind and body
but if he fails in his meditations even once there will be terrible consequences because he is literally surrounded by demons

>>129675824
I have never heard of anything like that before, is this mainstream? Many Buddhists don't seem to believe in gods or demons at all.

>>129676083

Honestly, it's a Catholic talking shit. It's not mainstream, but yes there is a whole cosmology in some forms of Buddhism that have gods and demons, etc. I have never heard of making compacts with demons though, as Buddha himself was tempted by lord of the demons, Mara, when he was under the Bodhi tree. So I'm pretty sure that's a 100 percent lie. And like all religions, Christianity included, things get warped from time and outsider influence from the original purpose of the founder. Thai and Tibetan Buddhism have lots of shamanistic influences, for instance.

>is it causing problems (death)?

Not that I hear of, it gets a pass for now

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>>129675824
>tfw when confronted by an imbecile polack who engages in semitic demonolatry
>>129676083
the existence of gods, deities, etc is attested in Buddhist scriptures and cosmology, although no particular importance is attached to them in the earliest ones.

Naturally, people may still respect/avoid disrespecting these entities, but certainly not worship them as followers of other religions would. In that sense, Buddhism is non-theistic (but not atheistic) while accepting a certain degree of theism.

>>129670989
Buddhism for White people right now. If they become buddhist they will be wiped out by other races for being too passive.
Post this when we win the race war

>>129672227
It wasn't Buddhism per se, it was a misinterpretation of Buddhism.

Buddhism itself doesn't make a statement about races but anything that is universally true, or the right thing to do, follows from the correct practice by itself.

Buddhism and Hinduism are essentially the same thing in the way that they're both very inclined with the laws of nature but both suffered a decline in true followers and people followed only parts of them ritualistically.

>>129673745
why don't you read this essay by Julius Evola, whom one could hardly label as non-Western:
https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/06/spiritual-virility-in-buddhism/

also see his "Doctrine of Awakening", especially the chapter tellingly entitled 'The Aryan-ness of the Doctrine of Awakening.'

>>129676376
>>129676533
I wonder if this folk religion got wrapped in whatever the Buddha taught. Like, if I discovered something today, in 500 years my followers would have accidentally tacked on a bunch of bullshit found in modern culture. The part about
>Buddha himself was tempted by lord of the demons, Mara, when he was under the Bodhi tree
gives it away, how you make a story more dramatic, Satan constantly trolls Jesus, too.

>>129676817
Hindus have told me that true Hinduism must come from a human teacher, in other words it's impossible to write it all down, do you agree with this?

>>129676376>>129676849

this aspect of Buddhism, or non-aspect really, is quite mainstream (see Paul Williams' works) for the simple reason that the so-called folk religion does not operate on the same level as Buddhism. We are talking about laypeople here, mind, not monks, those who may follow ancestral worship or local gods type cults, among other things. This type of religiosity is more akin to a familial or social duty than spiritual cultivation, therefore there is no conflict at all.

>>129677080
Thanks for the clear explanations

>>129670989
Hinduism for the 'unwashed' hoards

>>129677273
How so, doesn't Buddhism reject Hinduism?

A meme version of hinduism which normies really adore for intellectual cred.

>>129676849

It's just like that telephone game we played with kids, and it only gets more complicated when you add up so many people and all the political gain that is available with manipulating the masses through religion. The only way to safeguard the purity of a tradition of enlightenment is from a transmission from a master to a student who truly becomes a master in himself, and thus continues on the original energy, which as far as I know, only a few select Sufi and Zen Buddhist schools have been able to maintain.

Real teachings have, and probably always be, for small, select groups of passionate seekers that truly wish for their soul's transcendence. Most of humanity honestly needs Fascism or some kind of worldview/religion aligned with the natural laws of the planet.

>>129677456
He is jealous.
It's just a rivalry thing.

>>129676849

And it's not that hard to speculate how it got tacked on, as they already had their own shamanistic religions when Buddhism was introduced, so they just added it in, just like the Roman Catholic Church has lots of left-over Pagan influence.

>>129677456
Not really the Buddhist even came up with an analogy to fit Buddism into Hindu mythology it might be a separate religion for the world but for India it is a sect of Hinduism

>>129677622
A story a while back was that Hindu kids at Indian schools were segregated by caste, and the lower-caste kids got shitty tables, but by converting to Buddhism they escaped the entire system.

>>129677620
Zen Buddhism is practiced quite far from where the Buddha taught (Japan, right?), how did it survive there but nowhere else?

>>129676958
Before we talk about that, you have to understand that Hinduism is not a single "religion".

All religious philosophies east of Indus river have been clubbed into one. Buddhism and Jainism survived with an individual identity because Buddhism travelled outside and Jainism was a bit too different.

I'm not a completely ignorant person but I don't know much either.

There's vedas which are supposed to be the foremost source of knowledge. The little I've read of them, they're mostly pagan and have very few mentions of Vishnu or Shiva. I haven't read much I should repeat.

They do mention Brahm, not in a diety sense, but in a sense of the "ultimate".

Then there are Puranas which are "stories" about how the universe formed. They are very very "religious" and establish the pantheon of Gods and dieties.

Then there are a lot of other documents which are supposed to be a mix of stories when you read them and helping you gather energy when you chant them in Sanskrit.

And lots of mystic stuff.

For some mystic stuff, it is claimed by some people that you need initiation to benefit from the powers it gives you.

For knowledge related stuff and stuff that liberates you from suffering, no initiation is needed and you can learn on your own.

>>129677456

What buddha taught at the exact time- "hinduism", or henseforth referred to as Vedic schools- had lost.

Buddhism though devloved at a slightly faster pace than Vedic schools (because it was much more hard to actually practise).

Mahayana took the part about chanting without any understanding of what it means to chant. Any "buddhism" that makes you chant is no buddhism at all.

Buddhism teaches mindfulness. You basically don't do things that will cause negative consequences. Don't cater to desires that are ultimately pointless and destructive.

I even find it very practical. It doesn't tell you what you must do, but tell you to think hard about what you should do that won't come back and bite you later.

I'd say it's even conservative in a sense.

>>129677718
Isn't pretty much everything considered a sect of HInduism, even to the extent of there being atheist sects of Hindus?

>>129677958
That would be because Zen is a Japanese word. The corresponding terms in Chinese (Chan), Korean (Seon) and Vietnamese (Thien) reflect a living reality too. Venerables Thich Nhat Hanh, Seung Sahn, Shengyen, etc - none of these eminent contemporary "Zen" masters are Japanese.

As to why the Chan schools survived in China when other sects did not (regime change and sponsorship problems essentially), there are a number of works on the subject. In a nutshell, because these communities dispensed with the monastic rules against work/labour and became self-sufficient farming communities, they were able to survive despite the social and political changes.

>>129677958

It's not that far,

There's only Tibet and China in between, literally. Tibet was fully buddhist before communist takeover. Probably China too. Japan had no religious prohibition maybe.

Fun fact, Japanese alphabet arrangement is based on Sanskrit since 800AD.

>>129678013
Wow, thanks for so much info.

The
>mystic stuff
in this case was Jyotish, they recommended this book which also says you need a real human teacher
https://www.amazon.com/Light-Life-Hart-Fouw/dp/0940985691

>>129673745
um sorry sweetie but european people have a long history with buddhism that predates christianity or whatever reconstructed pagan larp group you belong to. europeans played a pivotal role in the development of buddhism. depictions of buddha weren't even a thing before the greeks started making statues of him. all of the buddhist imagery and possibly some of the buddhist philosophy you seen today are european in origin.

>>129678438
I actually studied Japanese and learned the order for looking up words in the dictionary, but I did not know that the a-ka-sa-ta-na-ha-ma... order comes from Sanskrit. I believe the phonetic writing system was developed by a monk who was inspired by his religious studies outside Japan, he thought the Japanese should have phonetic writing, too. Perhaps he had contact with Indian scholars.

>>129677620
Well yes their is esoteric knowledge that is lost or hidden but most of Hinduism due to sanskrit is preserved atleast in the texts

>>129678013
They are mentioned under different names in the Vedas

>>129678334
Hinduism is a way of life your belief in God has nothing to do with religion so yes their are atheist sects of Hinduism mind you they still believe in dharma

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>>129671328
friendly reminder that in buddhist majority countries, their welfare is shit, because they believe if you are born poor or with physical defects, your karma made you deserve it.
Cripples and people with genetic disorders are commonly lynched in places such as Burma and Cambodia for having "bad karma" and supposedly hurting the village.

>>129678472

I'm going to call "Hinduism" as Vedic lifestyle henceforth.

For Jyotish, I can tell you (being a very amateur one myself)- you don't need a human teacher.

I've read the first 100 or so pages btw, well written and the guy has some grasp on how Vedic lifestyle works. (I think it's in the preface too, go read that if you get time)

Here's the thing, Vedic texts do not exist in silo. You have to live a vedic lifestyle to understand them. As a matter of humility and for syncing with positive energies.
Once you go deep you realize how everything is related.

I know it sounds all hocum but that's how my experience as been

>>129678364
So today Mahayana has the clearest and most essential Buddhism, without a lot of the folk religion and politics of the other schools? Seems that Theravada has stuff that was deliberately made to help Burmese, Siamese, etc. monarchs.

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, just genuinely interested in learning more about Buddhism.

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>>129671328
It's like you got your entire understanding of the concept from reading an article in an Oprah magazine

>>129678701
>Inb4 buddha was blue eyed and hand blonde hair

Theravada sect of Buddhism or GTFO

>>129677958

Good question. I'm not sure, and may look into it more later. Maybe it had something to do with the intensity of the Japanese psyche and how much importance they attribute to tradition?

Also, they're one of the only Buddhist schools left that have a primary focus on meditation and not too much theory or community outreach. They keep it simple, and don't get lost in abstractions and philosophizing. They have "shikantaza," which means "just sitting" with your eyes closed. It's a pretty simple and beautiful masculine path, though I still don't think the most complete one.

>>129670989
better than judaism

>>129679226

And by "simple," I mean straightforward, direct. They cut off a lot of the excess baggage.

You all need to go down the Aaseevaha Tamil rabbit hole. Shiva's origins predate Hinduism, and (((Brahmins))) were jewish plants.

The chinese worship eight naked queers called the eight immortals. seriously

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>>129679171
umm, actually sweetie

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>>129670989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbOgXfMcLoQ

>>129679243
Yeah, but so would be worshipping a crack addled whore as your god.

>>129670989

better then the rest/10

also read schoppenhaur

>>129679046
I'd say that both are already variations of Buddhism. The difference is only about which should be the ultimate goal.

Mahayana: the ultimate goal should be the liberation of all beings first.
Theravada: the ultimate goal should be your own liberation first.

I'm interested in Buddhism as well and that's because I find truth in it. One is karma is very real. And the good or bad of your actions lies in the consequences. This is why you need to be skillful and mindful in your action. For example, letting in refugees like what the European countries has been doing may sound "good" but it causes more problems than it helps, so it should have been avoided.

Secondly, desires are indeed causes for suffering because they are impermanent, illusions that you can never satisfy, like chasing a shadow, and you may cause harm to yourself and others by chasing them. Instead, one should focus on true, pure, and permanent values. Now, how one should determine what is the permanent values is something I would need to study more on. But so far, I believe that building a good society and civilization is already closer to true value than getting your dicks wet or having your pocket filled with undeserved money. So, I don't think Buddhism is really nihilistic at all. If anything, it warns us about hedonism and other nihilistic ideas.

I'm fine with people who are Buddhas in their old age.
It's Nihilism though, and it won't help you wring what you want out of this world.

>>129679314
Thanks for the info, I often see Japanese Zen treated as a little separate from the rest of Buddhism, with a unique aesthetic including rock gardens. But I really need to study it in earnest.

>>129670989
meditation is red pilled whatever system helps you make progress you should stick with

>>129680133
I believe the morality you describe is called "consequentialism" and I like how it has a solid basis in reality, unlike "god said thou shalt not..."

Agreed on karma, was discussing that topic with an anon here about people who screw over their family members.

Agreed on the last paragraph, I see so much suffering, and at the same time, observe a (literally) cool, peaceful radiance from Buddhists that seems to make everyone happier.

>>129680255

Check out G.I. Gurdjieff's "Fourth Way." For the modern world, it's one of the better ones and also quite direct.

The basic outline for Gurdjieff's teaching would be that man does not have a soul, only the seed potential for it. And he can make his own soul by developing his sense of self, his sense of I, that makes his consciousness possible, that allows you to know you exist at all. He argued that most people are just like machines, "man machines" he called them, that have thousands of "Is" every day. A man gets lost in his passion, in his emotion, in his thoughts, and he completely identifies with it and becomes it, losing his central self (that is not that strong to begin with since said man never pays conscious attention to it anyway, but it's the very essence of what allows him to know he's alive!). So his concept was to focus on the central sense of I, self, that you are behind all of this external stuff, and to focus on it so much that it becomes your absolute foundation that you never lose, so that you become like a mountain inside - the practice of "self-remembrance" he called it. It's quite logical, really: everything comes and goes, but what makes it possible for you to even know you're alive? That's the only thing you truly posses, as everything else can be taken away from you or is out of your control. So, wouldn't it be prudent to pay attention to your only real possession, namely yourself, and see what it's all about?

Gurdjieff is great as a character, too. He had an amazing life. He led his White Russian students out of the Bolshevik revolution, into Constantinople, across Europe, and eventually settled with them in a manor in France were he taught and wrote. His life story is about as exciting as it gets: he traveled all throughout Egypt, the Middle East, and India seeking the truth and finally brought forth his own teaching. Suggest to read "Meetings with Remarkable Men," amazing book!

>>129680914
One thing I like to add is that Buddhism has made me realize that happiness does not come from outside. You have to find it from within. That's why you can love and get married but don't be dependent on your spouse. Because human relationship is one of the impermanent things that fill this universe. If you're ever betrayed, you only have yourself left.

The true "self" should be permanent, pure and unaffected, not manipulable by outside sources and complete by itself. That's why most people can be said to not have a true "soul', because we live too dependently on our senses and emotions, and motivated by our cravings and desires that we hardly ever stop and think about ourselves.

It's also in line with one of the philosophy that I don't remember the name now that states something like this: The only true reality that you can be sure of is you, yourself.

>>129681096
Thanks man, good stuff for me to look into tomorrow.

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>>129671529
We kill the more militant aspect so we can go back to being peaceful

>>129681621
>The only true reality that you can be sure of is you, yourself.
I believe that's "solipsism" which seems to be a very controversial position.

I was surprised to learn that Buddhism covers many philosophical topics in epistemology, because I had thought it was basically morality and meditation, but there's also the structure of the consciousness and many other interesting things.

At this point, I really need to learn more.

>>129672210
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>>129674369
>>129675085
>>129675824
>yes goy, be a good goy and accept the teachings of (((jesus christ))), and then allow millions of brown shits into your country because thats what (((jesus christ))) would have done.
modern christianity is a cuckold religion, and is whats allowing the muslims to destroy europe.
>b-b-but muh crusades
happened over 500 years ago, if you weren't cucked you'd have done it again. the fact that you dont indicates just how much of a beta faggot you are

>>129673486
>religion researcher
its called theology you fucking retard

>>129670989
what would an enlightened person without any desires at all even do if they don't want anything?

Buddhism is an Aryan philosophy totally misrepresented by white pacifist leftists and by many Asian cultures which have taken it to its limit of avoidance and pacifism. Zen and Vajrayana are particularly based. Buddhism is by nature hierarchal, traditional, and compatible with warlike asceticism (e.g. the entire Japanese overclass and their adherence to rinzai Zen). See here what Evola had to say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbOgXfMcLoQ

>>129670989

it is hard to take seriously when every other dopey liberal college girl dabbles in it.

the orgies of death are more than a little bizarre, i really wish it weren't on such a scale.

http://www.businessinsider.com/stunning-photos-of-the-worlds-largest-animal-sacrifice-2014-12

but hey, better animals than people. fuck islam.

>>129683025
Let's archive that
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>>129679217
>Theravada sect of Buddhism or GTFO

Pssht. What you think is Buddhism was invented by some jungle asians in the 60s to convert Western hippy cucks.

Go Vajrayana or go home, pleb.

>>129682236
It is very interesting for sure. For example, Buddhism does investigate the idea that the reality that we see is mostly a projection, an illusion made from our false perception. One of the Buddhist story I've heard tells that if you can see a shining image of the Buddha while meditating, you should discard it immediately because it's most likely just your delusion.

We are also bound to "reality" by our karma, the circumstances we are in are the result of our actions. We are what we do, or did. Which is why it can be said that the self are "empty", because it is subject to changes and contexts, and not a solid, permanent thing.

To break through that "reality", to see the truth, to finally gain the perfect self is one of the ultimate goal of Buddhism.

>>129682671

Hong Kong, you know nothing. The crusades happened because most people were Christian and they were willing to defend their countries and religion. Today, Europe is secular and the people think nationalism and fighting for your beliefs are racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, etc.

tldr: Secularism has turned people gay.

>>129682783
Do what needs to be done? Do things that are truly of value? The desires that Buddhism advised to break away from are those that a hedonist seeks, sensual pleasure that can never be truly satisfied and ultimately pointless to chase after. Instead, one should focus on bettering one-selves and not derive the value of your life from the amount of pleasure you get.

>>129670989
> what is Buddhism

A ripoff of Hinduism like Jainism

doesnt matter what religion say about itself. believers are always all colors of shitty and turn it into money making business.

>>129670989

I think it is based af. Read e.g. "The Doctrine of Awakening –The Attainment of Self-Mastery According to the Earliest Buddhists Texts" by Julius Evola for a nice introduction.

Like Sikhism better. Focuses on meditation and remembrance of God but doesn't believe in going to jungles or hills to find peace. Believes in living in a society, doing normal stuff. Plus, there's a militaristic tradition that focusses on physical aspects of spirituality.

It's all good as long as you attain samadhi/jhana, which doesn't require any sort of belief