If killing people is illegal then why are guns (tools designed

because guns dont kill people

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SHALL

>>129667005
Ownt

NOT

I like how they specify Gun Murders instead of Murders in total and try to make 3.6 out of 100,000 seem so fucking huge despite it being a country of 330 million people.

killing people should be legal

>>129666887
beacuse it makes profit you commie leaf

>>129667005
Makes the process a lot quicker tho.

>>129666887
Self defense isn't illegal. Also your pic related is because niggers.

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>>129666887
>If killing people is illegal
It's not. You can legally kill someone.

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>>129667005
Niggers do

Finland/Population
5.482 million (2015)
Republic of Ireland/Population
4.641 million (2015)
Portugal/Population
10.35 million (2015)
Canada/Population
35.85 million (2015)
Italy/Population
60.8 million (2015)
Austria/Population
8.611 million (2015)

You get the idea

>>129666887
meanwhile Honduras has 66 firearm homicides per 100k despite having a total gun ban and being socialist...

LEAF me alone

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>>129666887
Makes me wonder how much those numbers would change if black people weren't figured into the statistic.

>>129666887
Because killing in self defense in a situation where killing is the only option is justified and legal.

>>129667278
Compared to what? Some raghead in France killed far more people with a truck than the most fatal mass shooting in the US. The two largest terrorist attacks in the US did not involve firearms at all either.

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>>129667520
Quite a bit

Because self defense you idiot. I feel most Americans (even the ones in favor of guns) don't truly appreciate how extremely lucky they are to have their constitution and the second amendment.
If you didn't have that you government would have fucked you so fucking deep by now, and by doing so pulled the rest of the world down into an even worse darkness than it's already in.

People talking about banning guns in the US truly don't know what forces they are fucking with.

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>the 2nd amendment was a good id-

http://heyjackass.com/

>>129666887
Why is your country irrelevant?

>>129667570
>The two largest terrorist attacks in the US did not involve firearms at all either.

No? 9/11 largest and second place pulse nightclub?
Which one am i forgetting?

>>129667009
NOT

I'm bored with these. Someone post knife killing stats for once.

>>129666887

The reason guns are allowed in the US, in short, is because I will attempt to kill anybody who tries to take them from me.

Self defense is as much a human right as the right to breathe air, drink water, and take a shit. And self defense means firearms.

Samuel Colt made all men equal. You got a problem with it, take it up with him.

>>129666887
And what will Making them illegal do?

I'm not going to say I have done anything of the sort, but making a pipe shotgun is fucking easy as dick. Takes about an hour, a length of 3/4 sch40, a length of 1in sch40, a 3/4 plug, a small welder, a grinder, a drill, and a large drill bit.
Such a weapon will easily kill within a 20ft range, and with a bit more work and practice, can easily be fired around 10 shots per minute.

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>>129667925

Oh its one of those stats that also include suicide by gun as well to inflate the numbers.

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>>129667805
>he thinks it's good being relevant these days
>UK about to crash their own economy with Brexit
>USA elects the most incompetent leader in human history
>France non-stop terror attacks

>>129667902
Oklahoma city bombing.

>cherry picking the most cucked nations in the world
kek most of Western Europe has been scared to pull the trigger for 80 years. that's why they got ran over by a faggot manlet with a gay mustache

>>129667902
Oklahoma City bombing. Done with fertilizer and, surprise, surprise--a truck.

>>129667800
Then take a look at gun violence in Brazil where guns are illegal.
"Hahaha but it's third world"
Guns still illegal, doesn't help.
You know, criminals are not known for obeying the law.

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>>129667134
Also if you look at the population stats with gun deaths, only 11,550 people die from gun deaths in the US per year (including suicides and gang shootings in gun free cities which make up the majority of deaths), or 0.000035 of the population dies (out of 330 million people, hardly a stat to be considered a grievous number especially when, for example, we have that same amount of the population die in preventable car crashes every 3 days).

It is true that the other countries have lower gun deaths per capita (Canada's by the graph is 0.000005 of the population (180 people die) which is only a total of 36 million or a tenth of the US's population), however the difference is very negligible and hardly worth sacrificing a constitutional right over. I hope this helped for future use.

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>>129667925
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>>129666887
>>129667800
>Leafs
Every fucking time.

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>>129668092
>L-L-LOOK AT THIS UNDEVELOPED SHITHOLE WHERE SUBHUMANS STRUGGLE TO EVEN EAT! THEY SHOOT EACH OTHER TOO!
is this really how you cope with the facts right in front of you?

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>>129667800
>Chicago
>2nd Amendment
Our old mayor literally tried to ban handguns, Chicago has the strictest gun control measures in the entire nation and still has some of the biggest gun violence.

>>129666887
>if hit and runs are illegal then why are trucks (tools that can perform hit and runs with extreme ease) allowed
TRUCK OF PEACE

>>129667324
When can you legally kill someone outside police work / war? Double jeopardy?

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>>129668026
>Canada calling other leaders incompetent
Don't even try it.

>>129667681
Thank you fellow Swede.

I truly appreciate our second amendment. It's the only amendment that protects all of the other amendments.

>>129666887
Because they were not designed with the soul intent to kill people. The bullet has more to do with the purpose of the shot than the gun itself

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>>129668426
>HE THINKS TRUDEAU IS MORE INCOMPETENT THAN TRUMP

>>129668403
Castle doctrine, for one

>>129666887
Now show the one where south american and African countries are shown

Now subtract American blacks and Hispanics from the US...

>>129666887
how is russia not even on the list?
saged leaf is saged

>>129666887
If speeding is illegal then why are cars (tools designed to speed) allowed?
Go away leaf

>>129668503
Yeah I agree trudeau is so competent that he allows people to fuck dogs
So progressive!

>>129667005
nukes dont kill people either

>>129668403
Self defense/castle law/stand your ground law. Fucking retarded leaf

>>129668403
There are countless situations in which you could kill someone and not be guilty of a crime. For instance, you could be boxing with someone and accidentally kill them and not be guilty of any crime. Murder is a crime, killing someone isn't necessarily. Of course you could have just thought about this for a half second before asking.

>>129668403
Holy shit, why are Canadians so retarded? Self defense obviously.

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>>129666887
>If killing people is illegal then why are guns (tools designed to kill) allowed?
Because self defense ISN'T illegal (yet), you communist piece of shit.

>>129666887
Why are humans (born to destroy) allowed to live?

Niggers

>>129668267
Your argument was guns being legal, i showed criminals get guns even if they are. Not the fact whether people shoot each other or not. Are you retarded? Rhetorical question, don't bother.

>>129667134
You do realise 3.6 for every 100k is the population adjustment right? Or are you this retarded?

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>>129666887
most of those are for protection, and violent niggers shooting each other with unregistered / illegal weapons. also, our cops do not run from terrorists or nogs nigging out.

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>>129668656
>Yeah I agree trudeau is so competent that he allows people to fuck dogs
>So progressive!
It's great to see you have no idea how the legal system works
So intelligent!

>>129666887
>comparing gun murders in USA to gun murders in countries that outlaw virtually all guns
Yeah no shit a country with no guns has a low gun murder rate. It's disingenuous to compare things as this image does. Compare murders overall.
And that's before you get to the racial homogeneity aspect.

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>>129668503
That's fact bro.
My leader doesn't mourn over dead communist dictators nor apologize over every little infraction his country committed against anyone else unlike yours.
Your country is the biggest laughing stock in the world and you're the only nation in North America still subservient to the fucking Queen of England, think about that.

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>>129666887

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

When they bring their numbers, they aren't bringing their best numbers.

>>129668161
>Also if you look at the population stats with gun deaths, only 11,550 people die from gun deaths in the US per year (including suicides and gang shootings in gun free cities which make up the majority of deaths)
You sure? I thought all together (including suicides) it was about 30,000 a year, and with only actual gun murders it was around 11,000 a year.

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>>129668503

>>129666887
How many niggers do those countries have?

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>>129668806
>Your argument was guns being legal, i showed criminals get guns even if they are. Not the fact whether people shoot each other or not.
You know you can easily prevent people from turning into gun violence criminals by not giving them guns right?

>Are you retarded?
I guarantee my IQ is higher than yours.

Thanks for the laughs, hope you don't get blown up in a grenade attack.

>>129666887
If killing people is illegal then how does it still happen?

>>129666887
Murder is illegal, not killing, theres a difference...retard

>>129668161
Also
>40% of criminals report not committing crime due to fear of firearms
What?

>>129668660
We have those too.

>>129666887
>Country with third largest population size
>Country with highest gun per capita number

>>129667461
>american education

>>129669011
>Thanks for the laughs, hope you don't get blown up in a grenade attack.

Those legal grenades

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>>129666887
If killing people is illegal then why are people (the creatures who murder the most people) allowed?

Checkmate conservashits impeach pronald blampf

>>129667920
BE

>>129668503
Trudeau is a intellectual.
Trudeau vs drumpf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl5Xb5XoGTU

>>129668814
What are you even arguing about?
It clearly says "3.6 out of 100,000 residents die by gun murders" which would mean a total of 11.500 out of 330 million

>>129668956
I think on this I was wrong though, you're right that's it's raised to around 28K-30K with suicides included (which is what they usually use for gun death stats in most of these shitty pictures).
But yeah the total murders are only around 11K-12K.

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>>129668861
Trump approval rating - 34%
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/president-trumps-approval-rating-hits-another-new-low/ar-BBCfBCC?li=BBnbcA1

Trudeau approval rating - 42%
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/04/27/pm-trudeaus-approval-rating-tumbles

Next non-argument?

lots of shills getting red-pilled tonight.
sage anyways though cause it's still a leaf thread.

>>129666887
Yay at least we get to be second only to America in something cool. Now no one can say that Canada's more cucked than Europe.

>>129668845
Don't listen to that guy he's just being an ass, we know Canadians don't fuck dogs. You let the dogs fuck your wife while you cry in the corner

>guns are a necessary evil like women.

>>129669313
Mosquitos still kill more than humans

>>129666887
You should get rid of all of your country's guns first. Come back when you are done.

>>129669383
>42% approval rating is something to brag about
>47% disapproval is something to brag about
top lel your article title even says that his approval rating is tumbling you fucking leaf

>>129666887
>Only gun murders
>Not realizing people just use other weapons
>Counting niggers
>Counting spics
>Forgetting to sage

>>129666887
because stupid people are not against the law yet.

>>129669573
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS

How can guns be real if our fear isn't real?

>>129668670

Goddamn retarded leafs

>>129666887
"Killing people" is not illegal.

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>>129669579
>top lel your article title even says that his approval rating is tumbling you fucking leaf
Wow common core really did a number on you didn't it? Feel free to find any post where I support Trudeau!

Also guns are designed to turn animals into food. That's not killing.

DUDE WHY DOESNT EVERYONE JUST PLAY NICE

LMAO

>>129666887
now do a graph of total murders, and see how equal they are.

getting rid of guns doesnt prevent someone who wants to kill from killing, Also, id argue cars are more deadly/easier to kill in mass with

>>129666887
Shut the fuck up leaf

Sage

>>129666887
Because people still kill people

>>129668017
thats insane.. More people are killed with HAMMERS then fucking guns? That doesn't seem right.

This is now a convince fellow Canadians to take the gun pill thread.

>>129669907
Blunt objects, burger. That include things like bats or a wrench or something like that.

>>129669907
Not all guns just rifles, of which scary 'salt rifles are a small part of deaths.

>>129669361

Reading a script does not make you an intellectual.

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>>129666887
>countries with less niggers have less gun murderers

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>>129666887
This graph is retarded

People will kill each other no matter what. When you have access to guns, you use guns because they are efficient and easy to use. If your access to firearms is limited, you use knives and other tools. Hell, you can stab someone to death with a screwdriver or just strangle them with your bare hands if you really want to.

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>>129669781
>posts polls to support Trudeau in response to him being called a communist sympathizer (for some reason despite not being related to my post at all)
>>129669383

>calls him more competent than Trump
>>129668503

>inb4 moving the goalposts and claiming it was all a ruse

I'd rather retain my right to self defense with a firearm while slightly increasing the likelihood of being attacked, than be slightly "safer" in a gun-free country but unable to defend myself adequately in case something does happen.

My life is in my hands, faggots. Most of you euros don't have that luxury. I genuinely feel bad for the ones that recognize this fact while being unable to change it

>>129669324
INFRINGED

>>129669907
no, than rifles
it's aimed at the people who say stupid shit like "NOBODY NEEDS AN ASSAULT WEAPON" talking about semi-auto rifles like AR-15s, despite them not even being assault rifles
most gun deaths are from handguns, but nogun retards see guns like the one in the picture as a "scary assault weapons" and want to ban them

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>>129670157
>claim X is more competent than Y
>therefore I must support X
Is this the power of common core?

>>129668026
Your a liberal apologist, so apologize for destroying your economy by voting against your interests in the name of Trudeau.
>"The budget will balance itself"
Justin Trudeau.

>>129666887
Need them to shoot the niggers that commit all the murders. I have a suggestion, move all US niggers to canada. #endtheviolenceinUS

Yet more people die by cars by THREE times as much as guns in the US. When do we push for "common sense car control"?

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>>129670304
>>"The budget will balance itself"
>oh look another episode of taking a quote out of context
t. rural retard leaf, please never step foot in a big city, your lack of IQ has no place in modern society

>>129670132
I bet there is a higher rate of men being murdered by women in countries with guns. That might make liberals happy.

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>>129666887
If niggers kill niggers then why are niggers (ape designed to kill) allowed?

>>129666887
You've gotta be from Ontario... Guns are the great equalizer. They give the ability of weaker people the ability to defend themselves against stronger people.

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>>129670296
>I totally don't support the guy I'm defending from criticism with poll numbers and calling him competent guise
Is this the power of the rake in action?
Why are you still subservient to the Queen of England?

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>>129668026
>>USA elects the most incompetent leader in human history
Hahahaha, inhale, Bwhahahaha!
Named as little potato by China, continues to sell vital secure tech to china, along with land.
Pic related

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>>129666887
so it's easier to kill yourself for asking that question faggot

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Remove a certain segment of the population, and our rates are close to Denmarks.

Weird how that happens.

>>129666887
Your chart is stupid. Why chart gun murder per 100,000 residents, it's arbitrarily specific.

The interesting figure is murders per 100,000 residents.

>>129666887
What a very carefully crafted graph
It skips out on mexico and all the other gun violent nations

Almost like you're being disingenuous on purpose

>>129670521
A Quebecer I bet, the same people who bannock burned Indians and created a whole new "distinct society", boiled tree sap and called it a important commodity, along with ice and snowmen and still can't speak English 200 years later.
>dindu nuffins

>>129666887
Switzerland has the highest number of firearms per capita after the USA and it doesn't even appear in your graph.

>>129670775
>Americans forced to compare themselves to Mexico to try and save face

FUCKING LOL

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>>129667005
hear hear !

>>129666887
because once upon a time niggers were recognized as an inferior race and kept as slaves, then we let them free but didn't change our laws about freedom meant for civilized people with only the occasional bad egg rather than an entire race of bad eggs.

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>>129671168
>proxyfag too embarrassed to have his own country's flag shown
top lel

>>129666887
Premise begins

1) Everyone's own body is their property
2) Everyone has a right to the defense of their own property
3) Therefore, the safety of one's body is a moral right
4) Those who would wish harm on one's body have access to guns at a level and ease such that those without guns are severely disadvantaged in the defense of their body
5) Everyone who wants a gun must be allowed a gun, or you purposely and knowingly make defense of one's body impossible
6) Anyone who tries to pass any sort of gun control by state backed force is either
a) ignorant of the facts and history or
b) malevolently attempting to produce tyranny or ease of criminality

Not to mention the whole part where the only reason the US hasn't gone complete USSR corruption level is the fact that every single fucking person and their mother has a firearm, and the government would literally NEVER be able to outgun the citizenry, since cops and soldiers are some of the most 2nd amendment loving fuckers around.

>inb4 "lol like ur gonna outgun the tanks and jets nerd"
The autism of that argument doesn't deserve a rational counter argument, and though I know there probably is one, I won't take the time to sort my thoughts and explain it.

>>129666887
Murders are unlawful killings.

I have guns in case I need to lawfully kill someone.

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>>129671404

>>129667461
>American education

>>129666887
How every one of these chart are "gun murders" instead of just "murders"?

Are murders worse because a gun was used?

>>129666887
The US pretty much fucks up foreign powers at a regular basis and the only reason they have any semblance of trouble doing so is because of the massive occurrence of terror fighting styles and guerrilla warfare that makes occupying any territory hard as balls.

Now in the event that there ever was another civil war I'm fully gladdened by the fact that The US, having already stocked up on guns and personal defense weapons, can fight a war that's not going to involve desperate tactics like massacres and child suicide bombers.

That's just me, but I know for one that tyranny isn't something you can predict, and sometimes it's not something you can prevent, it's only something you can prepare for.

[spoiler]Not to mention The US isn't an island so importing illegal guns would be much easier than it would be for places such as The UK and Australia where they have the benefit of being Sea Locked to prevent land based import.[/spoiler]

FUCK GUNS AND FUCK YPPO

>>129666887

We really need to disconnect you shitposting chimps from the internet.

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>>129671404
>4) Those who would wish harm on one's body have access to guns at a level and ease such that those without guns are severely disadvantaged in the defense of their body
Same thing is true with access to nukes, doesn't mean people should be allowed to own nukes. Your delusional paranoia is not justification for owning killing machines.

>5) Everyone who wants a gun must be allowed a gun, or you purposely and knowingly make defense of one's body impossible
Faulty reasoning, children and felons should not be allowed guns.

can i get the racial demographics on that number?

>>129666887
Because the united states has the right to fight tyranny. Unlike you and I. Cuck.

>>129666887
Now show the total murders per 100,000 residents.

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>>129666887
>he thinks the problem is the gun
its the political and economical climate that determines the issue with gun crime, the US is a big place and why is Switzerland missing? Why not look at places like the UK BEFORE gun control, it was lower than it is now.

>>129666887
>why are guns (tools designed to kill) allowed

Guns aren't designed to kill, they're designed to be used in defense. Also, simply owning something =/= killing someone.

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>>129666887

My country is a perfect and clear example of why weapons have to be released, regardless of caliber.

I live in Rio de Janeiro, and well ... Here is the perfect example of an Stalinism Anarcho-capitalist. Private Policemen (Criminal Factions, Militias, Local Extermination Groups and Policemen) fighting each other to see who provides more freedom to make local dictatorships of freedom in their domains (Slums) while fighting against the State (Which on account of the current Governor is almost nonexistent The Mayor has more morals than the Governor here)

>>129667005
Nuh-uh.
I kill people.....with guns

-jon lajoie

>>129666887
How many of thos murders are nig nog related violence? Why does a leaf care so much about America's guns?

>>129667800
>shot and killed: 29

most of those are in self defense (US counts self defense as homicide).

Also, you're leaving out the fact that there are 400 million guns in America, which means that less than 1% of them are used in a violent act in one day.

I'm praying for some durka durka to get his face caved in with a shotgun after going after people with a knife, then we might have some change in our gun laws.

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>>129672834
>most of those are in self defense (US counts self defense as homicide).
Oh the coping methods here, do you really delude yourself this badly?

A grand total of three (3) recorded self-defense shootings, but you tried!

>>129669646
Well, being you're in Canada, the time for your hands to be cold after death would be, about 5 minutes?

>>129673186
We get summer here too you know.

>>129666887
Because one day we will kill all niggers

>>129673101
Okay, 26 murders and 400 million guns; it's still not a lot. Also, those murders could've been stopped if the victims had guns to defend themselves.

Regardless, I call bullshit on the statistic. "Police" and "Self Defense" are not races.

>>129673675

They don't teach statistics in canada's public schools.

Their entire education is based on learning to shit post.

>>129666887
>can't own gun
>freak breaks into your house with a gun because he's a criminal and doesn't care about laws
>shoots you and you die
People need guns to defend themselves, if a thug has a gun and you don't you have a ZERO percent chance of surviving. At least with a gun you have a chance.

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>>129673675
>Okay, 26 murders and 400 million guns; it's still not a lot.
That's 26 murders in 12 days in one city. If you want the rest of the mass shootings nationally at least, you can see the ones that happen just about daily here:
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

>>129673809
>They don't teach statistics in canada's public schools.
They do actually, but you obviously wouldn't know that.
http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/curriculum/secondary/math1112currb.pdf

Next non-argument from you backwards gun-toting morons?

>>129667134
>murders
>gun murders
Exactly this. I've become fascinated by media and it's power over us. People will share OP's image and pretend like it's somehow bolstering their argument.

>>129666887
You're as free as you are dangerous
next question

Now do 'pool drowning deaths' in areas that have pools and areas that don't. I'm sure it'll be very enlightening.

>>129673960

There are half a billion guns in circulation in the United States. Around 8000 people are killed a year with them. 80% of those are black and hispanic gangbangers, killing each other for sport in gun free zones run by the democratic party.

Get this through your retarded leaf skull. No one in America is going to disarm himself because tyrone decided to shoot paco for scuffing his shoes in the Chicago ghetto.

The gun control movement in the United States is dead. It's probably been gone before you were born. Chimps like you helped kill it.

Now go fix your own shit hole of a country.

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>>129666887
i'd love to see that graph if they divided America up by race. seriously, do it per 100,000 white residents and see your faggoty statistics change.

SHARE THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQUhJTxK5mA&t=13s

>>129674228

see
>>129668712

Why are niggers (designed to kill) allowed?

>>129666887
Why is gun murder per 100,000 residents a bad thing?

>>129673960
>That's 26 murders in 12 days in one city

Nowhere did it say that it was in one city, but fine then. Which city was it? Does it have relatively high crime or low crime when you compare it to other cities? Did you cherry pick the statistics to make crime look worse than it is?

here are some statistics for gun deaths every year in the US.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

If you do some basic math, you'll find out that nationally there are 30 deaths per day. This includes for self defense, so the number is actually lower for murders.

How about you stop showing misleading statistics that are cherry picked from one high crime city.

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>>129674685
>Nowhere did it say that it was in one city, but fine then.
That was in an earlier post:
>>129667800

>Which city was it?
Chicago

>Does it have relatively high crime or low crime when you compare it to other cities?
Relatively high, but not the highest, I believe St. Louis may be higher

>Did you cherry pick the statistics to make crime look worse than it is?
Shootings are shootings, what cherry picking can be done?

I'm just saying, you all look at this wrong and fall for the liberal setups every time.

You let the presumption stay as fact, and don't question assertions.

A high gun murder per 100,000 people is not necessarily a bad thing or something regular people should be concerned about. It doesn't address who did the murdering and who got murdered. The liberal wants people to place themselves in others shoes as people naturally do. But, the thing is, my probability of ever getting lung cancer is more than likely zero, whereas someone that smokes and/or has a family history is closer to 100%. If we go by statistics, I will have a 0.05% chance or some random figure, because they get factored in with me. If I were stupid, I'd believe it and get worried, and promptly suck Al Gore's dick in the hopes of pleasing the gods enough to let me live past 60.

TLDR: Question liberal presumptions.

>>129666887
it's called Capitalism. Somewhere in the world is some rich ass Gun Manufacturers marketing department creating and pushing the Meme's that get pushed through here, commercials on Fox news, etc.

They've turned owning a Gun into a Life Style and have the "Muh 2nd Amendment" and your rights as their protection to always get money.

Those pesky regulations stop them from selling them to 14 year-old gangbangers, because lets be honest they don't give a shit about you, or your rights, or your life, they only care about your money.

Guns are good, and they're bad. They honestly get put into the hands of the "Bad" people all to often in America. The reason is how easily accessible they are here. For example the most recent UK attack had limited deaths (While the Van sucked) the Knife was not as lethal compared to a gun for number of victims.

>>129675294

God have mercy what is it like being this pathetic?

>>129666887
Okay now sort it out by race

>>129669679
>t. Cityfag

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>>129666887

It's funny we in Switzerland have the right to own guns and don't have this problem. I wonder why.

>>129675375
>I have a 179 IQ
>I make mid 6 figures a year.
>I also have a Hot GF who's 23.

It's horrible to be me and I pray you never have to go through the pain that is my horrible life.

>>129675782
I'm 6'12" and have a foot long. Your "hot" gf isn't good enough for side chick status.

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>>129666887
Lets split the numerator/denominator a little to tease out a bit more info on that graph you got there leaf cuck.....

>>129674920
>Shootings are shootings, what cherry picking can be done?

So you got your statistics from a small sample size in a high crime area, and you're saying it's not cherry picked? Also, Chicago, the city that was sampled, has strict gun laws, which shows that banning guns does not correlate with lowering gun crime.

>>129675782

>I have a 179 IQ
>then I pissed it away on being retarded

Sad.

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>bans all guns
>now only criminals have them
you didn't think this through, did you?

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Gun violence, like almost all violence is a nigger problem.

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>>129666887
Fpbp

They are to defend against rabid niggers who break into your house and start stealing

>>129671995
>doesn't mean people should be allowed to own nukes.

But people do own nukes, Leaf. Governments are made up of people, and someone controls the government, so the person who owns the government owns the nukes.

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>>129676474
>the person who owns the government
You tried.

The exact same reasoning for civilians not owning nukes is applicable to civilians not owning guns.

Your paranoid delusions that you need to own killing machines is not worth the blood of so many innocents EVERY SINGLE DAY.

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>>129666887

killing isnt illegal, Murder is.

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Never ever will I fall for thIS bull shit.
If it were years ago you'd be arguing against swords & knifes.
Argue against the power that makes weapons Unjustified!!!

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>>129666887

We need guns to legally kill people that illegally kill people....

>>129666887
At first glance I didn't notice the US, that's pretty bad desu.

>>129676629
>People can't own the government

Leaves really do have brain issues, don't they? I guess years of cushy socialism have... "conditioned" you into being obedient, trusting animals, right? The idea that your government or the people in that government could be bought and sold is ridiculous!

I think civilians should be allowed to own nukes, by the way. A man who has the money and intelligence to actually buy, own, and store a nuke is probably more responsible than any government or military officials.

>>129666887
Why this straw man every time.

I don't care about the tool used for murder. Just the number of murders.

>>129667005
But they do, read the chart posted in the OP.

>>129666887
Leaf should be worried so we don't take their chainsaws away from them.
I seen what chainsaws are used for in several films.

(And knives... and axes... and ropes that can carry the weight of a man.)

>>129666887
>Countries where it's harder to get guns have fewer gun deaths
Wow, what a surprise. Next you'll tell me that starving people have lower rates of obesity.

>>129676945
It's wrong to sort black on black gun violence as "murder".
It should be labeled "culling".

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>>129675678
>It's funny we in Switzerland have the right to own guns and don't have this problem. I wonder why.

Neither do we bro. The so-called "high murder rates" in America, consists of blacks killing other blacks.

Life for white Americans is pretty safe, as long as you don't live to close to the darkies.

>>129666887
>>129667469
fucking leafs. Is shariablue subcontracting leafs bc they're cheaper?

>>129677336
This is kind of an unfair comparison, since the Swiss don't keep their guns loaded.

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>>129666887
BTW OP you fucking kike, your chart is extremely cherry-picked and misleading. Here is a chart I composed to provide another way to look at the world we live in....

>>129666887
The US has a gun homicide rate comparable to those European countries if you don't count those committed by niggers.

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>>129677497
>HURR CHERRYPICKING
>infographic of 20th century wars so that he doesn't have to include the American Civil War where over a million people died

>>129669062
A criminal that wants to steal just wants that. He doesn't want to die for it. Guns are a good deterrent. It's why places with less restrictive gun laws have less murders.

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>>129666887
Killing people isn't illegal.

Murder is illegal.

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>>129677668
>HURR DURR
>You did not include the great slaughter at Carthage!!

Fucking retard. We would keep our guns if it led to the slaughter of millions, merely for the pleasure of keeping you eternally BTFO.

>>129677497
If nothing else at least everyone can agree the 1911 is the best gun, 7/8 American bullets to take down anything

>>129667461
>American education

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>>129666887

Ok OP...

I will confess...

I fucking love my guns!! And there is nothing you are going to do about it.

>>129666887
Because it is NOT always illegal to kill people. You can kill people to preserve life, especially your own. It is honorable, and the right thing to do to put a someone down so they cannot take life. It is also appropriate to take life to defend your property or constitutional rights. If cops start shooting at you, without authorized deadly force, you can kill them legally to preserve your life.

To not to try to kill a person in certain situations IS illegal because you basically did nothing to stop loss of life which is a crime in some situations/locations. You are a worthless man if you don't try to kill another person who is taking life.

Where is Mexico?
> Only first world countries
You have Spain in there
>Only white countries
You have both Spain and France there mijo.

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>>129666887
If gun murder is illegal then how are Liberals(tools designed to kill) allowed to murder guns?

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>>129666887

>>129669011
>every country that has banned guns has never had a shooting after by a criminal and an illegally obtained firearm.
>I'm to fucking stupid to research why I'm proven wrong around every turn.

>>129669383
>Laughs while getting cucked daily
>thinks he's superior
Kek

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>>129666887
FTFY

>>129669781
Feel free to find any post where you don't admit Trudeau is a fucking idiot you mean? I don't see any. It's almost as if instead of supporting him you pussy foot around and could care less about your country.

>typical leaf

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>>129666887

>>129670435
Inner city retard eh? Yeah we know how those type think and operate.

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>>129666887
Jews comin back to Europa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDVGEPH8lJc

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>>129678657
>Feel free to find any post where you don't admit Trudeau is a fucking idiot you mean? I don't see any. It's almost as if instead of supporting him you pussy foot around and could care less about your country.
>implying I'm obliged to support Trudeau
Oh you stereotypical American drone... can't even think for yourself.

>>129678801
>Inner city retard eh? Yeah we know how those type think and operate.
I live in the suburbs, so apparently you don't know.

>>129670254
UPON

>>129667134
Because 9 out of 10 people prefer being stab-murdered

>>129676217
literally said guns are good when used properly, said they're too accessible in America, and the statistics agree with me.

I am not against guns, but I realize how things are marketed to the general population. I realize that sometimes greed outweighs the need for the great good. I realize that gun manufacturers are driven by sales. Yes I'm waiting my intelligence on thinking outside of the "Muh 2nd Amendment" box.

>>129671995
Wrong again holy shit. Just a few weeks ago a felon saved a cop with his legally re-acquired firearm. Your a leaf don't you pussies want to have reformed inmates? Reformed means they get there rights back.

And if you think a kid shouldn't defend himself in his home from and outnumbered or overpowering attacker then you are just retarded.

I get that you took a stand in this argument and can't stop now but you are backing into a stupid corner and just seem dumber as I scroll down. Kek

>>129679106
I"m wasting my intelligence*

>>129669531
Fuck, you're right. We need to ban mosquitos first.

>>129673960
Look at the race and demographics of the criminals moron.

>>129667134
Also I wonder how many of those were criminals being killed during the commission of a violent crime

>>129666887
Violent death rates aren't murders.
Those numbers count suicides, accidents, and cases of self defense as well.

>>129674920
Chicago is the highest

>>129666887
You should make use of the second ammendment and shoot yourself

>America has more gun deaths than some countries that are in civil war
not suprised tbqhfamilia

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>murder is suicide

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>>129666887
>make owning guns a right
>import hundred of thousands of niggers

What could go wrong am I rite?

>>129666887
sage
Killing is NOT illegal in the US (or any sane country for that matter), it depends on the circumstances and intention.

>>129667800
>importing niggers to work the fields was a good id...

>>129673960
it would be easier, cheaper and more effective to simply throw all those niggers in prison than trying to ban guns.

>>129674663
>Why is gun murder per 100,000 residents a bad thing?
because.. 100k niggers don't have the same stats as 100k whites

>>129678978
Kek so you don't have or know real problems being from the suburbs in a predominately white first world country? Imagine my shock.

>>129675294
everyone I know owns a firearm at 14. that's the age you can hunt deer. I bought mine when I was 12.

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>>129666887
Gee, I wonder why.

>>129676629
>The exact same reasoning for civilians not owning nukes is applicable to civilians not owning guns.
our government doesn't own nukes. they lease them. checkmate retard. LM owns them.

>>129679741
Is white on black murder already factored out? If you have Germany tier cuckery going on like in Idaho "the nigger pinning you down and punching your skull to custard was not necessarily assault - maybe Otombo didn't know this was illegal - so your actions were clearly murder, Mr. Whitey" I could see how that could skew the statistic.

>>129679957
We are not to that level yet, but we are getting there. IF you are white, and the court can find a way to label you "racist" in any way, you go to jail for 20 to 30 years, regardless of guilt, regardless of the severity of the crime. And the jury will be afraid to NOT convict you. The judge and prosecutor will tell them what to do, and the white jury, will send the white man to jail, for decades of his life.

>>129666887

they forgot to add (only western counties included) , what a fucking idiot picture

>>129666887
If killing people is illegal, then why are stones allowed ? Stonings happen, you know.

>>129666887
Czech Republic is one of the better armed countries in Europe.

>>129681725
Also forgot to mention - it has shall issue CC licenses and no sbr etc. regulations.

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WRONG

>>129666887
>*nigger murders per 100000

>>129666887
This includes suicides right?

>>129666887
>country bans guns
>people keep killing each other, just with knives now
>hey look, our "gun murder rate" is very low
Great picture

>>129667461
>American education

>>129666887
Czech Republic is on that graph where concealed carry is allowed.

>>129667461
>american education

>>129667461
>American education

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>>129666887
It's for the american freedom

>>129679067
You forgot the well regulated militia.

>>129667681
This, its quite easy to see the difference between two countries with similar backgrounds USA and UK, you can easily see who has the most rights and power between the populace and the government. Americans don't know the struggle to have to go to a range for 6 months regularly to even buy a .22 rifle and then you cant even use it in self defence and have to store ammo and gun pieces all in separate rooms. Please liberate us.

>>129670118
That's right, shut the fuck up nigger.

>>129666887
Explain why Switzerland is missing from that chart.
Make a chart showing all murders per 100,000 residents.
Make a chart showing niggers per 100,000 residents

Then kill yourself for being a leaf.

>>129672684
I'm a sexual tiger, tiger
And I feed on vaginas
-Jon

>>129670627
Well no shit, if you remove all poor people, then there'd be no gun violence at all.

>>129669062
40% of burglars and the like will not commit a crime due to the likelihood of being shot in houses with gun-ownership.

>>129668387
underratted

>>129669011
>I guarantee my IQ is higher than yours.
And yet, by responding, you've proven you don't understand what a rhetorical question is.

>>129688582
>niggers
>not "poor" of their own volition
They are the worst they get money programs and free uni but still they insist on being lazy criminal scum who sell drugs and then go and blame it on the system, america would be an extremely safe country if you remove 10-15% of the population. What does that tell you about them ?

>>129669383
>popularity = competence

LAD

>>129688198
A militia is one person or more so fuck off.

>>129667461
>american education
Burger autism never fails to deliver.

>>129688849
>niggers

>>129688813
>free uni
Hush, you're triggering the American't

>>129688881
>free uni
>good
Niggers get scholarships and the like for them but they are still lazy do nothings.

>>129688848
>Well regulated militia necessary for the security of the state
>One person

Yes, this is clearly what the founding fathers were thinking.

>>129688927
You know why we need free university? So we don't have ignorant fucks like you around.

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>>129666887

how many times do we have to explain leaf

also for all the lurking brits

>be me
>law abiding citizen
>guns are banned
>ok, then if nobody has a gun then i dont need one
>walking down street
>nigger walks out
>reach for my gun, that is not there because im a law abiding citizen
>nigger shoots me
>nigger got the gun illegally
>banning guns only made it worse for the law abiding citizen

nobody will respond to this with a valid argument against it

>>129689057
Who decides what a militia is ? The government, no, why would you trust the government to decide something which directly limits their power ? It's cleat what they were thinking the right to bear arms is universal, even the highest court in the US decided that is what they meant and you must also consider the time period it was written in with the differences in language. But what would a chink understand about freedom they are insects.

>>129689319
You're right, who decides what an arm is? After all, it make sense that arms should be attached to the torso, am I right?

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>>129688582
Removing blacks doesn't remove violence because it removes poverty, it removes violence because it removes r-selected low-IQ people.

Control for IQ, and poverty has little effect on crime rate. Control for poverty, and IQ has an enormous effect on crime.

If that weren't the case, Appalaichia would be a hotbed of crime, when it isn't.

Another massively strong correlate with violent crime is economic inequality. Not poverty — when EVERYONE is poor there's little violence. When EVERYONE is rich there's little violence. But when there's a few kleptocrats with vast wealth, and everyone else is at zero with no economic opportunity, then you see violent crime skyrocket. (Because it means there's low upward mobility thanks to low freedom of opportunity. When there is a social hierarchy and men don't see a peaceful way to climb it, they resort to violent means.)

So a high IQ society plus economic freedom = peace.

>>129689167
>paying for Jamals negro studies degree
I shouldn't pay for someone else's education it is my life/child so i should decide what i pay for, also it means i have a much larger say if for example my kid wanted to studies art or something
>>129689439
Arms have a very clear and defined military definition, weapons. You know what we call guns : small-arms. So please fuck off with your false-equivalencies and let me have my freedom secured against tyranny.

>>129689253
>government says grenades are no longer legal
>nigger blows up my car with an illegal grenade
>I could have blown him up first if grenades weren't illegal.

>>129666887
The more pertinent question is if killing is illegal then why is abortion legal?

>>129689564
Grenades =/= Guns

>>129689552
Arms are also a well defined medical defination, limbs that hang off your torso. Good thing brits can't have guns.

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>>129689564

>nigger takes out a grenade
>shoot him with my concealed carry firearm

checkmate

>>129666887
how many of those are done by cops and niggers?

>>129689660
Do you know what a homonyms, it is when a word is sounded and spelled the same yet has different meanings.

>>129689605
>Nigger jumps on you with gun
>Expects to shoot him first

Stop fantasizing samurai warrior

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>>129689756
Please go.

>>129670109
>being this butthurt

>>129666887
>>129666887
Why do you post here faggot? The states is a much bigger country than the ones you cherry picked.You are a shill why do you care what happens in the states?

>>129666887
To keep niggers from killing us.

>>129666887
For the people that t need to defend there selfs from the people who get guns illegally. There is no winning this argument.

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>>129666887

>>129668092
Interesting thread on /k/ on the cartel
>>>/k/34239505

>>129689793
>Topic on guns
>Brings up homocides

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Stand up and be counted, go with the Ku Klux Klan!

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>>129666887

i present to you switzerland 3rd most guns per capita in the world with 45'600guns/100'000residents and a gun homicide rate of 0.2 / 100'000. it is dependent on the people, the education, the law and the social security. nothing to do with a piece of metal

>>129667461
>burger education
Never seizes to amaze me.

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>>129690141
>proof guns save lives
>its of topic
Look at the thread title dipshit

>>129667469
>Honduras has 66 firearm homicides per 100k despite having a total gun ban and being socialist...

Uh...

The National Party of Honduras (PNH; Spanish: Partido Nacional de Honduras) is a political party in Honduras founded on February 27, 1902, by Manuel Bonilla Chirinos. Historically it has been one of the two most influential parties in the country. The party's platform is based on Christian humanist doctrine,[1] and its five main principles are common wealth, dignity of the human person, equality, solidarity and subsidiarity.

Since the foundation of the National Party, Honduras has had 13 Nationalist presidents. Manuel Bonilla was the first (1903–1907), and the most recent is the current president, Juan Orlando Hernández.


Not socialist, retard.

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>>129689439
They intended for the citizenry to be well armed, to be able to form a militia when needed. That's why they didn't want a standing army; the people ARE the army.

And before you say "AHA! They said the militia should be well regulated! That means they wanted strict gun regulations!" you should learn about what the term "well regulated" meant in the 1700s:
http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndmea.html

In modern English, "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed" translates to something like:

>American citizens should be as proficient with their weapons as possible, so they can form the effective militia necessary to protect our nation. Because of that, the right of Americans to own and carry weapons shall not be infringed.

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>>129666887

>>129690410
>protect life
>kills another for "self defense"

Wow.

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>>129666887
and I do not even own a gun