I asked a girl why is it that parents in the US don't pay

her education didnt pay off.

college education has outpaced inflation by about 3%, or 6.5-7% annually.

>>129658857
kek, fucking hippies

>>129658857

Wages were driven down by women joining the workforce and now it's basically impossible for a single-earner income to put kids through college, and for many, not even two-earner incomes can manage it.

It works out tho cuz modern college is basically a liberal indoctrination camp

>>129658857

Tuition in the US can be the price of a house and you rarely get return on investment (except in STEM fields or finance). There's so much your parents can do.

My parents didn't pay for my education because why would they? A full grown adult can find their own way through life and if you can't manage that then maybe you aren't mature enough for college in the first place.

>>129658857
Good thing there is a way to get free education: the military. Except I forget that many dont want to risk themselves, they just want the rewards.

What a shame.

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>>129658857
problem simply is adolescents are not taught basic economic theory like 'return on investment'
by the time they get to the age where they should go to college they just think of it as high school 2.0
a very small percentage realize it is actually them choosing the door that leads to the rest of their lives.

Tell her you'll say what you want and if she doesn't like it she can sit on your fat cock.

She is a keeper. Always go for girls with strong in group preferences.

>>129659540
Actually, the sad truth is that many college students don't go that route because they can't pass the IQ test to get into the military.

>>129659525
College has nothing to do with maturity. College is a place for networking. Maturity is irrelevant when networking.

>>129659242
>implying its normal to go to ASU and pay 200,000 to get a masters in transborder studies

If you go to community college with Fafsa and some grants you can get a associates like its nothing. You can usually do other programs to get a bachelors through a community college for 1/3 the price of a actual university.

What happened was they where giving student loans out to everybody for everything. Every kid went to a high priced party college and used students loans a useless degree and living on campus. They owe 100k now and they blame successful people older than them. A lot of student loan places started to refuse to give kids loans without a cosigner.

I am 24, there is a bunch of 26-34 year olds with tons of debt working at a burger king with a degree in the arts. Luckily i didn't go straight to college on my way out.

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>>129658857
>Falling for the college jew

Just say I Dare. Then what?

>>129658857

Tuition in the US can cost as much as a house in certain cases; meanwhile college in Mexico costs about 15 tamales a year. (25 tamales for a higher class university)

There's naturally a difference between the financial situations.

Student loans exist for a reason; for the worthless idiots that can't get a scholarship or don't have the balls to join the military, they can just go into debt for a few decades (not as bad as it sounds so long as they are fiscally responsible, which, surprise surprise, teenagers are not.)

>>129658857
>didnt your parents teach you not swear

>>129658857
I love how liberals make it seem like asking why is some huge blasphemy.

>>129659695
It's pretty hard to fail the asvab stat wise. Army/Marines will try to waiver you in with a failing score. I knew people who got 30s and got in, in Supply.

A lot of young americans are fat, lazy, and incapable of basic human function so they work for minimum wage, become neet, or if they are lucky mom and dad send them off to a 4 year school to fail out and then become neet.

I blame social media.

>>129659695
don't military recruiters straight up deceive people with high asvab scores into signing up for high risk jobs?

>>129660087
>you're a horrible person
>why
>SOMEONE ARREST THIS MAN
i'm fucking feeling it

>>129660054
>tuition can cost as much as a house

No it can't. Stop going to a private college if you can't afford it, you retard. State universities cost 10k a year to attend. There's no reason you should rack up huge debts.

>>129659869
I'm also 24. I graduated HS a semester early, I entered the workforce straight out of HS while my parents let my GF & stay at their house until I was 20-21 while we saved money for a house. We moved into my grandparents house after we moved out of my parents to continue to save money while my GF was pregnant and gave birth to our first child. My retired grandparents helped my GF to take care of my child while I was at work. Now 24 and will be buying a house and having our wedding at the end of the year. Yeah, we were only able to do this because of my parents and grandparents but still, college was worthless for us.

>>129660270
what kind of house are you living in, anon?
is it your parents?
cause if you can afford a 60k+ house while you're college age then that's pretty fucking impressive

not everyone has the ability to live off daddy and mommy while trying to get a degree; plenty of people have to fend for themselves whilst also trying to get an education.

for a large portion of americans; the choice between taking out a loan for an education or taking out a loan for a cheap house is a very real decision they have to make.

>>129660530
Kek, I'm the wrong person to fuck with on this, anon. I worked full time to pay my living expenses while in college and graduated with 14k in debt, which I paid off in 2 years. You lazy, entitled cunts will never make it in the real world.

Racking up 60k in debt because you feel entitled to the (((college experience))) is ridiculous. Get a job that at least pays for your food and housing. You idiots pay 8k a year to rent out a fucking room you're only in for 8 months.

>>129660491
College isn't even necessary, its good for some and pointless for others. If you are management material or want to start a business you don't need college. What do you do for a living?


I joined the Marines after being a NEET faggot for 1-2 years and i'm out now going to school for Criminal Justice. I want to go into DHS or FBI, and might get my law degree later on if i hate working for the government.

>>129658857
>parents are required to pay for their kids higher education
i guess they are supposed to pay their bail and other decisions they make as adults also?

>>129660908
Getting your JD will help with career advancement in both DHS and FBI, if that's the route you want to go. The market is flooded with attorneys right now, keep that in mind if you have to take out significant loans to get your JD.

>>129660908
You'll hate it alright. They'll ban you from 4chan. You'll lash out and call them shills and you'll get fired. Then you're gonna be stuck working as a maintenance employee at Walmart. 9.80 and hour till you're ready to get that juicy retirement money. All 50k of it.

>>129660190
no they want people with high ASVAB score in the hi tech positions, but people want what they want so they sign up for 11b(Infantry) to be at the front lines and do the cool shit, not sit in a cubicle with eggheads.

>cost increased exponentially

For all that money you'd think they'd teach her at least a few basic mathematical concepts.

>>129658857
>I asked a girl why is it that parents in the US don't pay for kid's tuition
Why should they?

My experience with not being taught the value of honesty and hard work really put me light years ahead of my competition. No one paid my way except me.

Anyone that cannot pay their own way does not deserve what they get. It is that simple.

>>129659540
>fight for zog cause damage to help banks
>inflation continues to go up people still cant pay for school
>but its alright because you sold your life to the zog machine for some school * risk your life and kill innocents for money anon*

>>129660825
I couldn't land a full time job because of the area my college was in (too many social major drop outs had to get jobs in the same area) but I worked two part time jobs while also studying on a scholarship.

I never said that I had taken out a student loan. nor did I say they were a good thing.

The country's education system is fucked.
(Also I agree that the people who pay huge sums of money just to have to smell their dorm mates rotting gym clothes are fucking masochists.)

>>129658857
>dont you dare
>dont you fucking dare
Sounds like you hit a trigger anon, maybe dig a little deeper and find out just why shes so touchy.. or dare I say.. emotional.

>>129660908
At first I worked in a wear house but it was part of the union so I got all the Healthcare benefits that came along with it. Than I moved to a crane shop, manufacturing industrial cranes. The business is really stricked, we have a non tolerance policy when it comes to absences and they provide all of our tools. That part is absolute shit but the pay is great and I work with a lot of cool people around my age. They also hired with no training necessary.

>Grown exponentially

Why do beaners always use the word "exponentially"? Do they really know what this word means? Surely if she means that the tuition fee has grown exponentially due to the fact of inflation, then everything has grown exponentially, which defeats the whole point of claiming tuition costs growing exponentially. God damn beaner nigges, do they even logic.

>>129658857
Many parents in the US do pay for tuition, it depends on their ability to pay. Or if they're kikes to take advantage of the student loan program.

>>129661467
The problem is entitled cunts who think the government owes them a subsidized loan so they can study some irrelevant, unmarketable degree. Correlate interest rate subsidies to majors that are in demand and let the rest of the idiots pay market rates for their loans.

>>129661215
I am pretty closeted on my beliefs. I don't use social media, and all online media accounts have a fake name.

The only thing that could come back to me is a youtube account that used to have my name on it that has tons of posts about shit skins and gamergate. I'm pretty safe.

>>129660908
CJ isn't awful, but you'd be better off studying accounting, anything math, or CS. Police departments get tons of CJ majors, but they really need accountants, computer experts, and mathematicians.

Vietnam and student loans screwed it up. People used to only go to college if they needed to for a specific profession, or if they were exceptional academically. Then Vietnam happened and college students were exempted from the draft so everyone went to college. College used to guarantee a good job, but over time since everyone went standards were lowered, and college or some kind of post high school education became necessary for almost any job. Outsourcing, computers, and mechanization didn't help because unskilled labor jobs disappeared. Universities raised prices because of the increased demand, and looser student loan regulations meant more money was available, so the market didn't naturally regulate tuition inflation. Now we're here, over and undereducated simultaneously, and even those of us who can get moderately good jobs are so buried in student debt that we don't even zero until our mid 30's. And grad school is the new college, so for some people it's even later.

>>129661532
I was gonna look into getting a city job working with radio towers before my decision for college. You can make 25 an fucking with towers.

There is some amazing no training needed jobs. You can also work in a copper mine and make 80k a year because its dangerous.

>>129661532
a wear house or a warehouse?

On the one hand, govt. involvement with college loans is driving the prices of tuition up; on the other, fewer people should be going to college because it's oversaturated the market with degrees, thus, devaluing the degrees.

So, high college tuition is a good means of pricing out people, but I think the govt. should get out of subsidizing college.

>>129661843
I feel the 60's with Vietnam and the Civil Rights bullshit is what led to the degenerate country we live in today and the downfall of this once great nation.

>>129661731
It's probably because of social media huh?
All the whiny faggots and attention craved bitches got together and convinced each other of the importance of gender studies.
Now we have a wave of hipster cunts that don't know what 'STEM' means paying ancient hippies hundreds of thousands of daddy's dollars, warping the college market in the process.

As usual, hippies will always find a way to impede the nation's progress.

>>129661937
Wearhouse. I used to do drag shows my nigger.

>>129661791
I have a Cisco mods 1-3, SEC+, NET+, and A+ as well as some other useless Microsoft shit. I also have a secret clearance. I was a cyber network specialist when i was a Marine. I do IT work now, and i really want to do something with some adrenaline to it. I won't ever be happy working with computers. I taught myself C++ to a rough/decent level when i was 15 and never wanted to touch it after that. I did World of Warcraft private server shit.

I just hate it at this point. I picked up a lot of knowledge on electrical shit a long the way too.

>>129658857
Don't you fucking dare anon. She serious and shit.

>>129659242
So do stem or finance then

>>129661278
>GT:128
>ST:135
>any job I wanted
>Airborne Infantry option
It's not a meme

Mine did.

Lol @ losers who went into debt, got shitty degrees, and are going to die on welfare.

US is a liberal shithole

And baby boomers are the most self-important and self-serving shitcunts to have ever existed. You only had to sleepwalk through life to be basically handed valuable opportunities that they were a given and they are under the delusion that they all worked hard to get to where they are.

And instead of enriching and strengthening the next generation to establish strong families, they choose to deracinate their own children and kick them out and sell them off to be a cog of zog, waste more resources, consume more, pay some Jew's rent, etc.

Rather than setting up their family, they choose to instead waste all of their wealth on hedonistic end of life holidays and recreation. They aren't even aware that the narrow historical window of opportunity that they used to enrich themselves early in their life had closed decades ago. Boomers continue enriching themselves however by selling this land of opportunity meme to the third world and exploiting the desperation of these people and letting their children have to deal with radical diversity and demographic changes when they are forced to move out somewhere they can afford.

Boomers are literally the worst.

>>129658857
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

>>129660189
>don't have kids you can't afford em

Yeah no wonder liberals always die alone.

>>129662186

Old school army here. I've went into IT after getting banged up pretty bad years ago. IT manager now, pretty big global team. Do I love it? No. Do I even like it? Rarely. But, a good IT career is a very good means to an end. It allowed me to pursue a few different fields and hobbies. It allowed me to raise a pretty big family. It allows me to work from home 24/7 now. I'm not even a coder, just a pretty skilled UNIX\Linux administrator with management skills I picked up while in service.

So, and this is just my advice, don't throw away what is a great foot in the door of an industry you can find work in anywhere (including from your home). Use it as a means to an end and figure out how to tolerate it.

>>129666286

Let me add to this that I have no college degree and I left school at 15. Which explains how I ended up carrying a rifle for 12 years.

How could her parents not be able to pay her college tuition? 18 years of saving and they can't scrap together 250k?

>>129659159
Bingo. This is something that's usually overlooked. Women entering the workforce increased the supply while the demand stayed the same depressing wages. If they had kept their dumb asses at home where they belong a single earner would still be enough to support a family.

>>129667161
Would you support your mother being a housewife in your youth, and reducing your household income?

>>129666840
>250k tuition

What college do you go to?

>>129658857
College de Mexico 101, take the tortilla, wet the tortilla... roll it out (breaks into rap video).

>GIBS US FREE ENTRANCE INTO THE U.S. RAYSIS. MAKE THE U.S. MEXICO AGAIN!

>>129667505
I suppose tuition was closer to 170k to 200k, but that doesn't include apartment and food. But you have a child for 18 years, you might as well save extra money.

Out of state tuition, UC Berkeley

>>129660270

State university tuition can easily break 20k a year without any housing or additional fees in the USA if you don't have financial aid helping out.

10k is a very low estimate, especially if one takes summer classes as well.

>>129667954
Hong Kong is a separate, better nation state than China.

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>>129663780
>Cog of Zog

Fuckin awesome, I think my band just got a new name

>>129667954
Sigapore is a self governed state that can choose to do business as it pleases, and the S. China Sea is international waters.

>>129658857
Spics aren't supposes to be esucated. They're supposed to be spics.

>>129668098
>>129668210

Good memes, friends, but I'm Taiwanese. Regular Chinese people who tow the party line would certainly never post here.

Fucking kek. Inflation turned the concept of money into a ponzi scheme.

>>129661287

actually it has grown exponentially. If it grows by 1% per year that's exponential growth. Exponential growth does not necessarily mean it grows terribly fast (except over the long run, where it does). Anyways it is, more or less, exponential

>>129659034
this, and not only mention it is already at a memetic amount that doesnt make sense… it is not even a social barrier anymore because the grants and scholarships are not given to talented people in need but for muh fairness

>>129658857
Student debt has grown by 800 billion in the last 15 years it's fucking insane it's way over priced and it's precisely because some fucking liberals thought everyone should have access to money to pay for school

Fucking liberals ruined their own affair with higher education by making it free

>>129667934
>out of state tuition
>adding living expenses into the cost of college

>>129668454
oooh get out Anon any girl that openly talks about her exes is a red alert.

I paid 20k pounds a year for college
extra 24k for housing
and about 24k more for living expenses

so 68k pounds a year for 5 years.

Graduated with zero debt

>>129659242
This. In my provinces the biggest college costs 4k per year. I pay in 4 years what Americans pay for one year.

>>129668321
Whatever China, you're no fun.

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>>129668321
>Chinese people who tow the party line would certainly never post here.
thats where you are wrong my fellow citizen

>>129667466
yes and there would be no need for her to have an income plus she wouldn't need a job and she could supervise her kids.

>>129658857

Children of immigrants do tend to have a rough time if they want further generations to be successful.

The generational cycle of immigration, in the best case scenario, has 1st generation immigrants providing a meager living, and 2nd generation immigrants working through college. Only at a 3rd generation can parents really afford to pay for things like owning and nice house or paying for college.

This girl's father probably broke his back in the fields just to give her the opportunity to live here, which is not something he deserves to be looked down on for.

Between a 529 plan and scholarship it's doable.

A counter-argument is that kids appreciate college only if they pay for it, although if they do well in high school they obviously appreciate something. Not to mention the public universities in European socialist countries where you actually have to major in something real, at least you had to in the past.

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>>129658857
because it's good to overwork your nation until they don't know anything about themselves lol

>>129668098
>seperate, better
jeez I wonder why they are doing that well when central chink gov didnt tax them and also subsidized HK local businesses as well as giving HK a monopoly of foreign business conduction for over a decade
kys common corer

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>go to four college with four years of dorm fees just to party and get fucked up because i don't care if i live or die
>can't find work in field, didn't even really try
>get sub-minimum wage job
>pay debt back in three years
damn just stop being a retard, shit's not hard
stop buying stupid kike shit

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>>129668661

already working on it

>>129668942
Endemic these days, with or without college degrees. And in their spare time, they smoke weed (legal in my state) so they literally don't know who they are.

americans seem to have an aversion to working- and middle-class parents feathering the nest so that their children can have an easier life. they also have a problem with actually having a healthy relationship with their parents at all.

>>129658857
Is her name Carolina and is she from Monterrey?

>>129666454
>>129666286
Thank you I'll take that in. I might go back into it at some point. I have always been good with computers as i stated and i easily have a career if i want one in it. I wanted to get into shooting and some survivalist outdoors stuff. Both can be expensive hobbies from time needed to toys being bought. I want to try to get my 20 year pension and have some fun doing it. Working in investigations is something i find interest in. I like criminology a lot.

>>129668321
They just spew chink propaganda under a Canadian or American flag.
>SLEEPING DRAGON WILL AWAKEN

>>129669108

no, her name is Stephany and she's from Boston

>>129668529
It's a very good school and my parents saved diligently. A married couple can surely save 10k to 20k per year for 18 years

>>129669098
A cultural disease is chasing possessions at the expense of all else. So they spend all of their money on crap instead of saving for their kids' future, and then use the rationalization here >>129668941

>>129669345
They wasted their money. No school is worth that outside of the Ivy League, and the Ivy League schools have large enough endowments to give free tuition to students who can't afford to attend.

>>129659869
How does that help you get a job? I believe I have gotten all of three out of 10 jobs through the "normal" open application/interview system, all of which were menial. The other 7 were on the recommendation of existing employees or friends.
The purpose of university today is networking and debt. the debt would be completely optional were it not for conservatives desiring to have a way to blackmail their employees into complying with their own exploitation.

>>129669594
I don't think so. I'm very happy with my Berkeley degree. It is not an onerous burden to pay for it, assuming you have a two-parent family who can budget properly.

You also have to be really poor to qualify for the "free" tuition. Obviously, anyone who saves money for 18 years will not qualify for such a "free" tuition.

>>129669345
That was my case, and I still have a close relationship with them, too.

I don't understand the cultural disease of college kids going into massive debt with worthless degrees. And having dysfunctional relationships with their families. It's not that hard to set up a 529 plan, major in something useful, and call your parents once a week. These problems should be the exception not the norm.

>>129658857
>Girl going up to bat for her parents

How is this a bad thing? It means she's not a coalburner who takes everything her parents did for her for granted.

>>129669855
Holy hell, your parents saved for 18 years and you blew it all on a cesspool like Berkeley? You could have gone to an in-state college, bought a large house, and still had money left over.

>>129670033
Would that have gotten a high-paying, above-entry-level job at a Fortune 500 company or top law firm afterward, or just an office manager job at the local supermarket chain or an internship with the local ambulance chaser?

>>129670215
Berkeley isn't going to get you a high-paying job at a Fortune 500. Berkeley will only give you AIDS and a warped view of reality.

>>129670033
I see you're only going to talk about UC Berkeley as meme and not an academic institution. My parents already have a house that I will inherit, and the money left over.

>>129669935
Like this guy, I have a good relationship with my parents. If you come from a good family and are raised well, being able to inherit houses and property, as well as familial wealth is normal. If you do something like divorce and co-parent/single parent/step parent, of course that is far less likely.

>>129670348
And after the shit I've read on /pol/ I'm rapidly losing interest in marriage tbqh

>>129670348
You're going to wait until your parents die to own a home? What value did you get for that exact 220k that Berkeley cost?

>>129658857
>parents should provide for their children, right?
>STOP INSULTING MY PARENTS REEEE
I knew 3 girls like this in college, they were absolute retards pursuing shit degrees. What's her major, OP?

>>129670346
>t. 3.1 GPA
>>129670448
Good man.

>>129670488
If he went to Berkeley for EECS, he's set for life. Berkeley is a meme for all its liberal bullshit but its engineering is no joke.

>>129670448

don't get married.

Signed my divorce papers on Friday. Lost my home, over a million dollars, my company, my friends and I 40K in allemony

>>129670488
Don't be silly. My parents will add me to the home owner's list while they're still alive ... like loving parents do.

Why are you so hostile? Do you have a bad relationship with your parents? Did Berkeley reject your application?

>>129670561
Put the B in BSD

>>129670648
>my parents will add me to the home owners list

wut?

Berkeley is a meme college whose glory days have long passed. It has some good programs, but it's nobody's first pick.

>>129670561
To a lot of teens, it is a meme univerisity. But everyone knows that its degrees are valuable.

I majored in Biology and CS, but EECS is also a popular choice

>>129670773
you didn't answer my question about your parents or your college application process

hmmmmmmm

>>129670592
That's terrible, I hope you recover soon.

Was it in Mexico btw? People here think getting divorced in Mexico is a cheaper and faster alternative.

>>129670857

yeah in Mexico. It took 7 months. I also refused to sign, judge signed for me. I had no final say

>>129670830
I answered both earlier in the thread. I worked my way through college, graduated from UNC with 14k in debt, paid it off in two years, and now I run a REIT. My parents offered to pay for my college, but I refused. I've got a good relationship with my parents, they've got a little over a million in my REIT.

>>129671010
it's too bad you're still memeing about universities at your age then

>>129670792
>Biology and CS
>not being in the EECS MASTER RACE

Seriously though, I don't know why everyone I know who goes there doesn't declare in EECS. It's literally impossible to not get a six figure job in SV if you graduate there in EECS, even with a 2.0 GPA and smelling like farts all day.

I got rejected from EECS there and had to go to my safety at UIUC for CompE. But UCB is still way more famous even though the programs are similarly ranked.

>>129671203
I'm only 25. It's just amusing to look at you idiots wasting money on schools that nobody cares about. If you are serious about CS, at least go to Stanford. That is, assuming you aren't completely bullshitting your whole story.

>>129658857
>>129660189

You're a retarded autist. You expect her parents to foresee her wanting to go to college an being able to predict how much college would cost in 18 years from the time they had her? Are you fucking stupid?

>>129671389
the UI schools are also very good. I know a couple of guys with degrees from over there.

>>129671439
Yes, parents saving money to send their child to a university. That is exactly the kind of ridiculous story I would make up for random people on the internet.

>>129668699

Because the tax payers are footing your bill.

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>>129659159
>Wages were driven down by women joining the workforce and now
you mean jews using chinese slave labor you dumb kike

>>129671734
> foresee her wanting to go to college
Everyone wants their children to go to college. If you really want to know what the real memes are, it's trade schools and apprenticeships

>>129671785
It's just bizarre to me that someone would be willing to spend a quarter of a million dollars on a non-Ivy.

>>129671439
>idiots wasting money on schools that nobody cares about

Tier 1 recruiting in SV is Stanford, Berkeley, MIT, and CMU. Still worth it IMO, since you can make like 600k starting post graduation just from having set foot at any one of those places for a CS degree.

You can earn back whatever amount of money you spent on tuition at any one of those places in a year or two. Also, Stanford and MIT have infinite amounts of need based financial aid so its not like you'd have to spend much in the first place.

>>129671946
>trade schools are memes

Alot of my contractors went to trade schools for two years and came out making more than most of the people I graduated with. Trades are definitely a viable option, certainly moreso than college on the whole.

>>129672058
>since you can make 600k starting post graduation

You know how I know you're underage?

>>129670033
berkeley is like a top 20 school mate

>>129672015
1. Not everyone bases their value of universities on /pol memes
2. Some parents value a degree from such schools and are willing to pay for it, especially if they have the disposable income. They're not worried about paying the cheapest amounts from the cheapest state school

>>129659884
>not taking advantage of community college, financial aid, grants, and attending state university for a nice STEM degree at next to no cost

>>129672015
I agree.

I lived at home and paid about 14k a year for my top 15 ranked education at UW.

>>129672263
>/pol memes
>/pol

Fuck off, reddit. Your parents and you are complete morons. You overpaid for a shit school. For 1/4 of that money you could have attended Stanford or Harvard.

>>129667934
>out of state tuition at Berkeley

that's like taking out a massive loan to buy a Bugatti when a 2002 Honda will do just fine
community college here is like $1700/semester

>>129668116
someone posted Kang Vult on here the other day and im stealing it for a band name

>>129658857

>be 17 working at Burger King
>a few patrons expect table service; manage fatties
>go to decent college; major in hard science
>interview 20x senior year; get consultant intro job
>graduate college with BA
>make 67K, have expense account, live in city, meet up weekends with college friends
>paying off student loads like a madman
>be 22; everything is possible

nothing wrong with college, and i'm paying it off myself

>>129672015
MIT is not an Ivy, it's still worth 200k though. Not like you'll ever need to pay that much since they're drowning in money to give away.

>>129672375
I don't know why you're so mad. You have your state degree, I have my Berkeley degree. All's well.

>>129672547
Berkeley is a state university though lmao

>>129658857
Maybe she just doesn't like Spics

>>129672503
I'm just here to laugh at the idiot who blew a quarter of a million dollars on a BA from Berkeley.

>>129672547
We both have state degrees. I saved a quarter of a million dollars.

>>129672653
oh yeah, that's true. Then we both have state degrees!

If anything, he should feel pleasantly pleased that he got such a good coupon on education. Not oddly mad at my degree

>>129672215
You wanna know how I know you're a non-STEM brainlet?

>>129672375
What are you talking about? Sticker price at any one of those places is pretty much the same. Or are you just too salty to care?

>>129672710
No need for mad then

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>>129661381
>kill innocents
Moralfag

>>129659540
Fucking wow... People like you actually exist.

>>129672503
MIT is all about the recruiting - if you want the best jobs you go there. Harvard and Berkeley are for hard science, or law, and being recruited by the top law firms. It's also about studying the cutting edge with experts and the top people in the field.

Sure, state school is great, I went to one, but my degree and field didn't require a top school, and I paid my own way working.

I dated a girl, who graduated from Yale, in a non-science/business degree. Nobody recruited her, it was a waste of a free ride (she was black). She ended up taking entry level jobs where her Yale degree was equal to a 4 year degree from the worst state school.

>>129672835
None of the Ivy's cost 280k for a BA. Nobody gets hired for 600k out of college with just an undergrad. Hell, Math PhDs only start out at 200k.

>>129668321
white left

>>129659540
i wish i could have done that but i had diabetes. only spent about $50k on a 4 year degree though so it wasn't hopeless and miserable.

>>129673023
kek math phds probably start at $60k

>>129673280
the meme is 300k

>>129671734
My parents sent three kids to college. They aren't even remotely wealthy.

>>129659159
More like banking elites stealing your labor through manipulation of interest rates and inflation. You're not necessarily wrong, but what you're describing is not the most important reason.

>>129668454
this tho
when you ll fuck her she ll scream lucien
you fuckin mexicuck

>>129672972
>Nobody recruited her, it was a waste of a free ride (she was black)

Well you just found the problem. She's a nigger. And Yale sucks for anything that isn't law. It's strength in social sciences doesn't count either because it's a leftist meme field.

>>129673023

I just googled Berkeley's OOS CoA and its $62k. Harvard's is $63k. Stanford's is $62k as well. Where are you getting the 280k from?

>>129673280
A Math PhD with a background in programming can start out at 200k fairly easily. There are more effective ways to make that much money. A nurse practitioner starts out around 130k and it only requires a graduate degree.

>>129659540
>(((risk themselves)))

goos goy

>>129658857
I'm not paying for my kids over priced babysitting and they have known that since the day the could comprehend English. If they choose a trade school, I'll be on board to help. My parents didn't help any of their four children at all and we are all doing perfectly fine. Three of us do well on the so called impossible to live on single income earning household and are home owners with savings. Zero debt, all of us under 40, parents were poor as fuck.

>>129669050
>TAKE THAT, DAD

>>129673480
This idiot who claims his parents saved for eighteen years and accumulated 280k for his college, only for him to blow it on acid trips at Berkeley. >>129673329

>>129659159
>Wages were driven down by women joining the workforce and now it's basically impossible for a single-earner income to put kids through college, and for many, not even two-earner incomes can manage it.
Not only this but the fact that jobs got shipped off to the third world so now the Chinese will work at 50 cents an hour while you cannot get a full time job at all (working over 39 hours is capped jobwise were i am even the manger cannot work over 40 hours).

>>129667161
Its been much more than that. While women being expected to work has increased the labor market and the competition of wages, which has absorbed that, what has really happened is that the poor have been slowly paying the government more. They are promised security and independence, but they only end up paying twice what they did and they give up more of their freedom. Try getting a car loan from a shop that carries their own loans. 5k car sold for 10k and on top of that they charge 20% interest and repo your car if you have a 1 day lapse in insurance. Oh and they own the repo truck too so they make their own rates. Thats a private bank on a small scale, imagine the implications if developed for a massive marketplace.

>>129668504
It's not that, dummy. The loans are Federally backed now, people are getting fat and happy at that guaranteed income stream. The next step is to make them investment packages, like mortgages. It's already been discussed publically.

>>129673807
Nigger, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>129672317
Lol this. And say what you want about Commiefornia butt they have the best CC to state school transfer system. Go to CC then transfer to a top school like UCLA or Cal and gg

Just finished 2 years of CC and got into UCLA for this fall, and I barely passed high school.

>>129673480
I said 250k or a quarter million as an estimate for sending your kid to college, just adding in a cushion for apartment/food/extra money for your child to start their bank account. He's adding in extra costs for some reason

I think he wants us to congratulate him on his wisdom of picking his university which was relatively cheap .....

>>129672058
>$600k starting
No human on earth is making half a million dollars out of college

>>129670561
Neither are it's hard science and law degrees. Again - the top firms recruit from Berkeley, not Chico State.

>>129670955
Why is a Mexican talking to a girl from Boston on Viber?

How do you know this bitch?

>>129670773
Keep telling yourself that.

How many times did they turn you down, by the way?

>>129673684
He can make that money back pretty quickly if he has a job in the Bay Area. I'll be surprised if he doesn't since UCB is blue chip for SV tech recruiting.

>>129673929
This. The CC to University program they have is unfair. Abuse the fuck out of it. And always self identify as black transgender disabled muslim.

>>129658857
wow, logical leap to say a question for why something is different is an insult, very rude of her and you should let her know

>>129671389
Because not everyone can handle EECS, you fucking spastic.

It's like the retarded "learn 2 code" meme - not everyone can code. And, if someone isn't into EECS, then they'll have a worthless degree - IF they graduate - and they'll be a shitty EECS, and not make six figures.

Why does common sense have to be explained so often here?

>>129660151
Marine Corps doesn't do ASVAB waivers, you just pulled that out of your ass. There's no need to because for jobs like Supply and Motor T the requirement is breathing

>>129660189
im surprised she didnt trip on the pet reference dodged a bullet there anon

>>129672710
Who are you working for, with your state degree, and who tried to recruit you?

Yeah, not as good as Berkeley grads get, right?

>>129673949
Yeah maybe like 5 years out of a masters it's possible... But only if you bust your ass for a company and have no life whatsoever

>>129661381
>2017
>being this much of a commie faggot

>>129672673
No, it's a California University campus. We have 3 systems here - the community college system, the state system, like California State University at San Francisco (SF State), and the university system, like University of California at Berkeley (UCB), or University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA)

The UC's are the elite. A State degree is good, but a UC degree has more cachet and desirability.

>>129658857
apparently the answer is "parents only pay for college if their kid is smart enough to learn anything from it"

>>129667934
That can be justified depending on the program you were in.

>Notre Dame
>75k total cost after scholarship
>not even Catholic

>>129674349
>Because not everyone can handle EECS, you fucking spastic.

Pfft. I think everyone can handle EECS, because I don't count brainlets as human beings.

But seriously, I'm sure even a retard can get through the program with a good GPA, provided they do the absolute minimum to get through.

The reason why you hear people in EECS programs complain about the difficulty so often is because EECS people by their very nature go out of their way to load their schedule with tons of EE and CS classes, of which there are way too many to choose from. Hence they load up on all of them and complain when they get crushed.

If they weren't like that, they'd have chosen either EE or CS instead, not both.

>>129674771
depends which CSU vs which UC. Top CSUs (Cal Poly Pamona, SLO, maybe Cal State Long Beach) are better than bottom UCs (Stanislaus, Merced, Riverside)

Also UCSB is a party school, if I ever opened my own firm I don't think I would look highly upon UCSB

>>129673023
Kids get hired for 600K a year working on algorithms for Wall Street. I know a girl who graduated in international banking who's first job offer was $750k a year, graduating from a in Ivy League school. That was 15 years ago, she's easily in the 7-8 figure range now - looking at the fucking house she lives in, I'd bet around 5 mill a year, not counting bonuses. Granted, she works 18 hours a day, and is traveling nonstop, but she's got a Bentley and a big ass house. And a boy toy husband who dabbles in VC in Silicon Valley.

You guys have no clue what the world is like. You think in terms of what you know, which is IT, or from TV. The top 10 percent of the top ten percent in grads are paid a fuck ton of money on their first job, because they showed massive skill in college, and they got recruited by the top.

>>129673949
You're either young, or hopelessly naive, or just fucking ignorant. Or all three.

>>129674988
Ah, autist detected.

Sorry, kid, the world doesn't work the way you think it does in your autist bubble.

>>129675454
Lmao. Are you too much of a brainlet to handle EECS? Cmon now.

>>129675149
Absolutely. Chico state has been known as a party school since the 80's, and Santa Cruz...well, that's self explanitory.

I went to Long Beach for a specific program. Was a good school, lots of strong departments. My brother and sister when to SF State, same thing - some departments are really good, others, so so.

The best part of the system is how many campuses there are, so they can offer so many programs. Other states don't have it nearly as good.

>>129658857
I know it's not the main point but the reason why college costs so much in the US now is because the Federal govt gives out loans like candy.

>if you were in a position to raise tuition for a college knowing that you will get the money regardless, woukdnt you raise prices?

>>129675321
Forgive me if I have difficulty wrapping my mind around the idea that any piece of human capital with no work experience is worth that much money, regardless of education. 25/IT/$75k/NE liberal arts school

>>129675187
.........no.

>>129669855
What if I have two or three kids?

>>129675537
I don't want to "handle" EECS. I have a degree in something I'm good at and enjoy and make good money at, you fucking waterhead.

People actually choose degrees and incomes based on other things than "I'll make x amount" memes on 4chan, stupid. You can't just decide to be good at EE - only children and raging autistics think like that.

>>129659034
I got a good job out of college because I worked all through it.. Good times

Tuition is pricey as fuck and most of us don't have 20,000 a year to drop on a kid to go to college when that is their decision...even though the military offers shit like this for service in the military.

>>129674962

>Catholic university
>Celebrating Vagina monologues anually.

>>129675702
Who said she had no experience? Ever hear of internships, dummy? That's how kids get recruited and hired out of college.

Oh, did they not do that in your certificate classes at community college?

>>129658857
You are right. Her parents failed her. That probably hurts for her to hear. But yeah, your parents are supposed to help you out at least for the first few years.

>>129675931
You are 100% trolling.

There is no kid anywhere that gets hired for 600 fucking k out of college unless their daddy owns the place. Sorry I don't give a shit how good your internships are that does not happen.

>>129675931
Implying a series of implications

>>129658857
Why don't people just join the military for 3 years? Don't give me that bullshit about it being strict. The Chair Force is pretty much college.
>free college
>free housing
>free food
>valuable life experience
>learn a job specialty
>travel to a new place
>learn to be independent after high school

>>129675642
Yeah Long Beach can have a ROI depending on the program for sure, but there are a fuck ton of majors available and 75% of them are geared towards slack jawed retards just waiting to be programmed.

DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE YOU SHITLORD

>>129676051
I don't give a fuck what you believe.

>>129660908
Become the president of the united states in 2032

>>129659034
>college education has outpaced inflation by about 3%, or 6.5-7% annually.
This

They basically made it easier for people to get student loans so the colleges jacked up the prices since every one could just get a loan anyway. Back in the day it was actually possible for some one to work their way through college and not have 50k bucks in debt afterwards.

So its not surprising that parents cant afford to pay for college, they can't pay for the same reason millennials can't pay for a house. The credit system ruins everything.

>>129676215
Yeah, like business majors. I lived with a couple in the dorms, that degree doesn't prepare you for shit.

>>129671734
>history shows that prices of things are going up over time
>I'll save up some money so those prices aren't as painful in the future
hurr
durr

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>>129676237
It's called reality you flabby negroid

You are a 10/10 retard I'll give ya that

>>129675930
I have no idea what you're talking about, so whatever you heard is overblown and had no effect on me. My main problem with the school was little northeastern richboy faggots. The top 1% has a lot of estrogen and it gets on your nerves real quick.

>>129676322
Business accounting does, finance, probably, management.. no. A business would rather hire some kid that worked out on the floor before some random CSULB grad is gonna run their shit. It might help in the long run to stop your career from topping out I guess.

>>129658857
community college transfer master race

>>129659242
And in these days not even STEM can give you a good job (if any related to your field), so ROI on college degree is rapidly approaching 0.

>>129663187
Hey that's me too. Smart retards here! Worst, best time of my life.

>>129658857
College education is a lot more expensive in the us than in India, like 5x more.

>>129676503
the real redpill right here, I would have done that but in my situation the amount I would save by doing CC for two years didn't justify the risk of not getting accepted again and wouldn't save me much money at all because I doubt I would get offered the scholarship again.

>>129668321

It's TOE the line, you dumb slant. Get our idioms right or don't use them at all.

>>129669050
>DATING WHITE AMERICAN MALES ? DAFUQ, FUCK WHITE PEOPLE
>NO THANKS !
>a white girl from boston
Amerimen, explain yourselves.

>>129658857
>dad i want to do humanities
>no youre doing med school
>but daaaaad!
>im not paying for that disappointing shit son
>fuck you dad im doing what i want on my own


and thats how you have student loans

>>129669097
all i do is smoke weed and spend time alone so i don't relate. marijuana use doesn't prevent individuation, it helps promote it. the kids who are doing it right are smoking and reading and meditating or doing exercise/stretching and spending time inside themselves. the dummies work and then smoke or drink and play games or do mindless tasks.

>>129673280
>>129673023
>Math PhDs only start out at 200k

My bullshit-o-meter is off the charts. Like the other anon said, most probably $60k after 1 or 1.5 years of searching unless you are a nigger/woman/faggot

>>129676546
You can get a better than shit-tier job with a degree and the skills such as arriving to class on time, writing papers within the perimeters and turning them in by the deadline, reading critically, etc. Most paralegal require only that and clerical skills (attention to detail in time constraints).
There is a huge generation gap in certain fields like title insurance, paralegal and law (requires law school obviously), but millennials want 50k right out of school.
This is not possible and you were sold and hold onto a lie.
I've had people far worse than me at the same job make close to twice as much because they've been in the field for three decades. Doesn't matter if they can't use any Microsoft programs, let alone use them efficiently.

>>129676397
Still don't give a fuck. Why are you still trying to force me to give a fuck what you think? Are you that big of a neckbeard, that you think it matters?

>>129676626
Colleges in the US are at LEAST 50x's better than in India. And there's no shit on the streets.

That's why our colleges are infested with poos.

>>129677402
And yet you keep replying, Mr. 0.1%. Why so mean?

I taught myself web dev and programming and got a $55k job after 3 months in this flyover state with a very low cost of living. A year later I now have a "real" programming job and make over $100k with the bonus included, why the fuck should I go to college? Like half of the coworkers I've had that have had Bachelors and Masters degrees literally couldn't program somehow.

>>129677805
Strong work ethic is a rarer gift than you might think

>>129675187
(((massive skill))) in college. Fuck off shill. Robots and AI work on algorithms on Wall Street now, because kikes found another way to save even more money. Besides, I can't imagine how kikes would pay some kid from college $750k a year. I call bullshit on you.

>>129659540
I was under the impression there is only very low risk when you work for the US military. Similar to driving a car.

>>129677896
I don't even have a strong work ethic, there is just a bunch of stuff I wanted to buy and didn't have the money to buy and programming looked like the easiest and best option for me.

>>129659159
Yes. And after that, the migrants were used to drive the wages even lower

>>129678038
Absent some extenuating circumstance like being black or there being a huge shortage of IT workers in your area going from zero to employable in 3 months is indeed demonstrative of an uncommonly strong work ethic

>>129678293
At least in terms of resume building. Programming is indeed not actually that hard at the end of the day

>>129677381
>You can get a better than shit-tier job with a degree and the skills such as arriving to class on time, writing papers within the perimeters and turning them in by the deadline, reading critically, etc.

implying STEM doesn't require you to arrive to class on time

I am not even talking about $50k out of school, can't even get a job period. Btw, you can get $50k out of school, but it will probably be in an expensive state like NY, where that $50k is worthless in PPP. And according to other anon you can easily get a $600k job just have to be smart and work hard. kek

I don't think having any particular skills will get you a job unless you know someone who can employ you or you fill in the diversity quotas.

>>129658857
DONT YOU DARE OP
DONT YOU FUCKING DARE

>>129672147
sounds like someone who went to a shitty school

>>129675149
Stan isn't a UC

>>129660087
My hillary loving mate got ass blasted when I was struggling to understand why it's impossible for 'some' people in the USA to get ID in this day and age. Arguing about voter ID requirements

>>129658857
I'm telling my kids not to go to university. If they need a degree, shop for the cheapest. Information is basically free now, so why not get the degree as cheap as possible, and then self-teach any inadequacies? fuck an ivy league or high end college unless its a scholarship.
Better off getting a couple or more specialized associate degrees throughout your life for your career changes. You'll make more, have much much less debt, and be happier, feel successful with your simpler goals. The reason why a lot of parent don't pay for their kids colleges is that they are adults by the time they are in college. One of the first things they do as adults is choose a path of success or failure, and being responsible for their future and their own education teaches this clearly. You win... or lose.
Not everyone is a winner. And those who are winners, needs the losers to be able to be winners. How the universe works, son...

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>be 20
>graduated high school two years ago
>instead of jumping headfirst into college I joined the work force to figure out what I would be good at before going into debt
>find job at walmart
>one of my coworkers had a BA in mechanical engineering, one was a vet (animal), one was a pharmacist (though ironically was a greeter and did not work in the pharmacy)
>start to doubt going to college
>look into average tuition cost and average loan debt people get themselves into
>between that and the amount of people with degrees who were right along side me at walmart, decided against college
>no idea what to do with myself
>going to try my hand at day trading
>if that doesn't work, joining the military
>don't really have any other options

Here's to hoping I guess.

>>129679906
You pay for the prestige mate, if yiure kid is smart enough to get into columbia or some other college, are you really gonma force them to go to a community college For 4 years. They could be smart as fuck but emloyers wont give a shit because theyll just assume theyre a retsrd who wasnt smart enough to hack it in a big uni. At the very least, if yiu live in cali, have your kid go to cc for 2 years then transfer to a good state school for stem.

>>129658857
Roasties btfod by based tacoman

>>129671734
Kys spastic white knight

>>129660189
>$300
>1 grocery run

Amerifats lmao...

>>129680548
You can start a business or go to trade school, as well.

>>129658857
>d-don't you fucking dare
She's ready for you to be sexually aggressive now.

>>129680548
>>going to try my hand at day trading

You need a lot of capital (we're talking five or six figures) and even then your chances of succeeding are up there with becoming a professional poker player.

Find yourself a trade, make bank and invest using that. Not trading - investing. You'll come out further ahead.

>>129658857
Collage tuition has raised far faster than inflation. Most parents never expected that much cost growth, so collage funds often fall short. However part of the problem is on society for destroying good jobs and refusing to give kids a reality check. So much of the student debt problem could have been prevented by parents or teachers telling the kid that their gender studies or equally useless program is a waste of time and money.

>>129682000
>You need a lot of capital (we're talking five or six figures)
You only need $25k to legally day trade in the US.

>>129658857
Women always go berserk for no reason

>>129684279
Not exactly. You are restricted by the Pattern Day Trader rule until your portfolio exceeds $25,000. It limits you to 3 day trades per week as long as you are under that amount. There is no legal minimum to trade, but brokers do have varying minimums that you can open an account with.

>>129668699
Who the fuck is subsidizing you? I pay like 2 grand+ a semester

>>129667466
Would not reduce the household income because she would not be the only one, dumbass and Absofuckinglutely. A child needs her mother and a mom that is able to fend for herself with her own income is also capable of surviving with her kids without a man.

>>129659242
>go to the army
>free college
Wow, it's like magic

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>>129671851
Shoo shoo! No girls allowed.

>>129658857
I KNOW THIS FUCKING BITCH
HER NAME IS DOROTHY
SHE IS A DEGENERATE BRONY THAT LIVES IN THE PROVINCE OF ATHENS
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198113484561
THIS IS HER STEAM PROFILE
HER SKYPE IS velvet.remedy3

HER IP IS 24.105.218.176

>>129672317
THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

get all your math and science preq knocked out then coast into whatever school you want

>>129660491
Good man. Wish I could do the same. I hope your wife is loyal and redpilled

>>129659540
>Yeah but dude, haven't you heard you're dyeing for Israel!
Fucking hate these niggers. Is there a happy merchant wearing a white man mask?

Sad fucking day when people side with a beaner over a white girl. Thats how you know summer is in full swing

>>129687119

>Le openly biased

I love this meme

>>129687119
Fuck off roastie

>>129687189
>>129687257
>>>/plebbit/ is this way magapedes

>>129680872
I have ivy leagues as subordinates. And I dropped out of high school. Opened 2 businesses on my 18th birthday. Last thing I would ever be is a stupid fucking employee. And I teach my kids the same. "Don't be like them". Teach them not to be fucking stupid and pay 100-200k for "prestige". Fuck that stupid shit.

>>129687335

Nice proxy, leaf

>>129681127
Denmark, go look at the flag again you fool

>>129660189
You're going kinda hard on an obviously emotionally driven woman. Expect to never talk to her ever. Good job anyways, don't see any flaws in your arguments. If you got an hour to spare and like gossip this is pretty entertaining. The woman gets BTFO at the end.
https://youtu.be/Upfa3ioqZKw

>>129681127
>Europe in charge of knowing flags

>>129661215
Hi breakroom

>>129687335
>>>r/twoxchromosomes

>>129658857
American parents (especially boomers, and some millenials) are the fucking worst

>>129659695
Fail it how? Do they score over 70?

>>129658857
The real question is what is an American girl doing talking to a spic?

>>129658857
>don't u dare

what you gonna do girl?

>>129688517
This.

>that feel when education cost a quarter of a million dollars for my doctorate and I will be 120k monopoly monies in debt when I graduate
A-at least I already have some good job offers.

>>129675836
>I don't want to "handle" EECS.

Because you literally can't you stupid brainlet lmao

> I have a degree in something I'm good at and enjoy and make good money at, you fucking waterhead.

Degree in flipping burgers right?

>People actually choose degrees and incomes based on other things than "I'll make x amount" memes on 4chan, stupid.

Yeah. You're right. They choose their degrees based on whether they can or cannot handle EECS. You brainlet.

>You can't just decide to be good at EE - only children and raging autistics think like that.

Well to be fair you can't just decide to not be retarded. Oh well

>>129688517
>>129688691
Getting that BLC. Women naturally prefer more masculine men

>>129681127
>Why are you so fat?
>No idea, I went on a run yesterday!

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>>129681127
for a family? $300 is totally reasonable

even cheap

>>129675836
Holy shit. BTFO EECS.

>>129658857
why do basic white bitches try to be tough by going "don't you fucking dare" and shit that doesn't suit them, like an aggressive black chick can get away with it but it looks ludicrous when they do it

>>129658857
>why is it that parents in the US don't pay for kid's tuition
Good parents do, shitty parents either just kick their kids out at 18, or tell them to suck jew dick (take loans).

If you can't pay for your kids' education, you should at least encourage them to do a military hitch. Anything besides taking on burdensome debt.

>>129669050
post moar of the convo

>>129659034
A good in state school is about 25000 a year. That isn't really that much, especially considering if you choose a major worth a shit you will graduate with a 60k a year offer minimum.

By the time your kids are going off to college parents really should have a gross house hold income of at least 100k a year.

>>129688517
>The real question is what is an American girl doing talking to a spic?
she's trying to virtue signal by dating minorities

>>129658857
Just tell her: "Say Joy Lane."

>>129659159
yeah it has nothing to do with the hordes of mexicans flooding in

>>129658857
Why don't american parents support their kids? I'd pay for everything for my kids if I had the money.

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>not finding yourself a sugar mommy to pay off your university fees
lmao