WILL IT EVER BE AGAIN? CAN WE RESTORE THE HISTORY AND BRING BACK

One day brother, one day. The Fourth Reich shall last forever.

Yeah, the antichrist.

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>>129611060
heres the better version

>>129611164
we should trade palaces ;P

>>129611060
Tf is your country?

>>129611060
Fuck off with this cancer and leave me out of any union with Germany

>not including the baltic crusader states

c'mon now

>>129611948
they were never in the HRE

>>129611860
>french education

>>129611646
I love the HRE
it's German autism realised

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>>129611060
hmmmmm

>>129612264
It is the destiny of our entire people's autism.
We have never recovered from its end.

>>129611646
>Price-Bishopric
>Landgraviate/Burgraviate
>Margraviate
>Imperial Abbey
>Archbishopric
wtf are this?
autism incarnate

>>129611060
Isn't the EU pretty much the same?

>>129611060

Why is lower lorraine on top and upper lorraine on bottom?

>>129613883
altitude

>>129613883
the map is upside down

>>129611860
hes a tax evader between Austria and Switzerland

>>129611060
RARE

>>129611789
THE RAREST MICRO-NATION

>>129613284
That's what a Catholic Empire looks like, faggot.

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>>129611060

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>>129615333
lmao not even close

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"The HRE was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire."

The HRE was made of several partly independent territories. It slowly but surely lost a good part of his clays. The Carolingian Empire was a better model for Europe.

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>>129612064
>Terra Mariana (Medieval Latin for 'Land of Mary') was the official name[1] for Medieval Livonia[2] or Old Livonia [3] (German: Alt-Livland, Estonian: Vana-Liivimaa, Latvian: Livonija), which was formed in the aftermath of the Livonian Crusade in the territories comprising present day Estonia and Latvia. It was established on 2 February 1207,[4] as a principality of the Holy Roman Empire[5] but lost this status in 1215 when proclaimed by Pope Innocent III as directly subject to the Holy See.[6]

>>129615333
Does Macau have a flag on 4chan? Don't think I've seen it before

>>129616195
>"The HRE was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire."
How come there's always a pseudo-intellectual in these threads who feels the need to quote that french faggot?

It doesn't make you seem smart or educated, it just makes you look like an idiot. The Roman and Holy parts came from getting the authority through the pope you fucktard and to a lesser extent from Karl the Great calling himself the successor of the Roman empire.
And yes, due to the loose definition of the word empire you could even call it one, though nobody ever doubted that (most of the time) it was only a title to express that the emperor was above kings, since there were often kings in the realm.
You're a dumb pseudo-intellectual, either educate or kill yourself.

>>129611164
>Fourth
>The Germans have failed three times
But yeah the fourth reich, that will be the one that sticks.

>>129616614
>>129616195
PS: stop being a whiny homo just because nobody ever wanted to invite you to that secret medieval club that ended centuries ago, faggot

>>129615568
I was born not too far away from Seborga...

>>129611060
>CAN WE RESTORE THE HISTORY AND BRING BACK GOD INTO LIFE?
If we can get over ethno-nationalism then yes

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>>129615333
All Hail Micronationalism

>>129616195
So long as you don't touch the gremlins of zurich you will be fine.

>>129611646
>those cucks from Ineja who helped the Savoia instead of the Doge of Genoa like us from Pòrto Moriçio
Always drives me mad...

>>129617222
that's my dream, boy! Hail!

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>>129611164
Never again please, enough blood has been spilled to keep the netherlands sovereign, I will never bow for the niggers of europe.

>The Kingdom of the Netherlands before the eternal tandrum throwing niggers known as germans

and if you want to sell us to the germans you're just an oikophobe, we don't have to exterminate them if they wont stand it the way of our glory and nations' ambition.

>>129613284
>Prince-Bishopric
Bishop who is also a ruler of a secular fief (town, city, region or something like that). He doesn't rule the secular fief in the same capacity as his diocese, they generally had a lesser degree of authority in the secular fief.
>Margraviate
Fiefs established at the border (at the time of establishment). Margraviates were taxed less than inner fiefs because more money had to go to defense, and after they stopped being on border feudal lords usually fiercely protected the right to be taxed less so they kept their status.
>Burgraviate / Landgraviate
Ownership of castle + surrounding town, but not any other land.
>Imperial Abbey
Abbeys that essentially had the same rights as any feudal lord and answered only to the emperor
>Archbishopric
Same as prince-bishopric, but ruled by an archbishop instead of a bishop

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>>129617719
>enough blood has been spilled to keep the netherlands sovereign, I will never bow for the niggers of europe.
What the fuck are you talking about?
You're one of the masters of surrendering.

> of our glory and nations' ambition.
You're barely a country, m8, relax.

>>129618318
we've been united longer and had real colonies, unlike you, the joke of europe with your nationalism. You are like the autists that kill a trend with your sperging, Unkel Adolf. you ruined imperialism.

we actually succesfully invaded britain, unlike you did, and we cucked the habsburgs so hard that when they lost us it all went downhill with their Austro-spanish inbredfest

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>>129611060
>Lichten(((stein)))
>Luxem(((bourg)))

>>129618754
Shooting and conquering niggers is not an achievement, you being united is about as impressive as bavaria being united and you just look like you're hiding your own insecurities here, laddy.
>look at how well we kept this small piece of land together
lel

>>129619080
and yet you're ot worried about (((Venice)))...

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>>129619099
small piece of land with 17million inhabitants, bigger then your bayern inbred germans most of your states are empty farmlands with shit development, the netherlands on the other hand is nearly 1 big city

>muh ruhrgebied

thats french land

>>129616614

The Pope excommunicated Henri IV, the HRE was several times in war with the Papal states, allowed Protestantism, didn't controlled Rome since the 16th century and even sacked it in 1527, was mainly composed of germanic populations, but yeah I guess that was a Catholic "italian" Empire.

>Karl the Great calling himself the successor of the Roman empire.
Kek. You know Napoleon also proclaimed itself the successor of the Roman Empire. He was maybe Corsican but the country he lead definitely didn't have roman ancestors, like the HRE.

And don't worry I hate Voltaire too, but on this point he was right.

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>>129619099
>Dat moment you never were an actual country before 1,5 centuries ago
>Dat moment you argue with a country that fought the most powerfull empire at the time and won
>Dat moment you argue with a country that actually sucessfully fought the British
>Dat moment you argue with a country that does not suck Ahmeds cock as much
>Dat moment you argue with a country that did not lose 2 world wars
>Dat moment you argue with a country that lost over 30 percent of its pieces of land
>Dat moment you think your own country is even going to have some power left

Krauts are getting pathetic.

Islamic Caliphate

>>129619827
bavaria is nearly twice as big as you and you just have 4,5 million more people, which isn't even much
Stop being a butthurt swampjew, you're not relevant and that's alright, just don't roleplay as something else.

>>129619982
>The Pope excommunicated Henri IV, the HRE was several times in war with the Papal states, allowed Protestantism, didn't controlled Rome since the 16th century and even sacked it in 1527, was mainly composed of germanic populations
I told you about the origin, genius, why the fuck would they switch it if they swill believed that they were in the right?
Pussying out afterwards would have just meant that the Pope was right.
>"italian"
Nobody ever said anything like that, Rome as the holy city does not Equal Rome as an italian city, you genius.

>You know Napoleon also
So what?
Karl was a lot more succesful, actually accomplished some lasting shit and back then the fall of the Roman empire was relatively recent.

>And don't worry I hate Voltaire too, but on this point he was right.
>but on this point he was right.
Only if you're being an utter autist and ignore what was actually meant so you can pretend it means what you want it to mean.


>>129620007
>>Dat moment you never were an actual country before 1,5 centuries ago
Stopped reading right there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Germany
Uneducated swampjew.
Try harder next time and you won't waste so much of your time with shit nobody will ever read.

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>>129620007
Right on!

>Dat moment you argue with a country that was the fear of the british navy
>Dat moment you argue with a country that burned down a big parts of the british fleet in their homebase
>Dat moment you argue with a country that delivered cavalry to the Roman emperor as bodyguards and were seen as the Navy seals of that time

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>>129611060
i will kill for Lotharingia

>>129620795
2nd exporter in the world in food/Agri in terms of wealth, combined with our population density and small landmass.

give the dutch germany and it would be a superpower

>>129621128
Most european countries have a niche they lead the world in, welcome to the club of white people where shit like that is normal.

>
>
>

>>129621257
what is that of germany?
>amount of turks and other immigrants

as always the bud to every nigger joke

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>>129620795
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Germany
>Muh same name so it must be the same country

Educate yourself first domme mof. Then suck some of Achmeds cock, lend your gf to him and neck yourself.

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>>129621438
>what is that of germany?
You must be very new here, in case you're not joking, just google and you'll find about 50 economic and scientific fields Germany remains the world-leader in with a quick glance alone.
You really were proud of that one little thing you had, weren't you?
Sad.

>>129611060
Roman? lol

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>>129611060
>H

>>129621551
Same territory, same people, same country.
If you disagree then your country has only been around very recently because the netherlands from a few centuries ago was quite different to the modern one as well.
Bring an argument, or at least try.

>>129621785
Historical reasons, see here >>129616614

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Best empire comming through hre is like the autistic child

>Holy (((Roman))) Empire
Fuck no. Germanic pigs were never Roman to begin with

>>129622010
Posts like this are why the world looks down on you.
Read the thread, being italians had nothing to do with it you genius.

>>129616614
The Roman Empire was still around (Eastern Roman Empire) so claiming to be a successor of Rome doesn't make you one. Also the Eastern Roman empire is not a successor of Rome it is Rome after west and east split.

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>>129621551
Germans dont deserve coast.
>only river connecting to a sea is de rijn that goes through the netherlands

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>>129622098
>Destroy the Roman Empire
>Try to create a LARPing Roman Empire
>Butthurt when people call him out on his delusion
This is exactly why the world looks down on YOU Krautnigger.

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>>129611060
>what is the EU

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>>129621664
(((Science))) (((economics)))

one thing unkel dolfie needed to do, and he failed.
Petty economics and science dont keep a country alive in times of need

>>129611060
>stein

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Italian penisula (and people) were united first time under romans. After that we conquered the whole known world. Fuck off you and your retarded version of Italian Roman Empire.

>>129622150
>The Roman Empire was still around (Eastern Roman Empire)
If you thought that the western roman empire was the real one (which everybody except the eastern one did) then that doesn't matter.
Also
>so claiming to be a successor of Rome doesn't make you one.
Nobody here ever claimed that, it was just in fashion do to that back then you genius.

> Also the Eastern Roman empire is not a successor of Rome it is Rome after west and east split.
Can you fucking kill yourself?

>>129622274
Don't try to hide your embarrasment too hard now.
Also, the roman empire was killing itself long before it fell you historically illiterate nigger.

PS: Most of the Army and all the last emperor's were Germanic due to them rising through the army because the Germanics were simply better soldiers than the pussified romans of the late empire.
So how does that work in your equation
>inb4 so the Germans ruined it!
Nah, the decadence that killed it was a thing long before that and it started crumbling before that as well.

>>129622571
We also have a very healthy agricultural industry and ours, contrary to yours doesn't produce tons of useless flowers.

>>129622236
Viva el leon!

>>129622430
I thought the brits destroyed all those fake toy castles

>like someone wants to conquer some hills with forrest on it anyways

get some useful land first, oh yeah you tried with your lebensrauming, pointlessly annoying the polish bro's

>>129622274
Fuck off hre was totally legit if you can't look past shitty vocabulaire that's your problem
>Larping
Like defending Christ and Rome?
It was not like we wuz acting roman and shit with toga's also the idea of hre is older started out with frankis >>129621881

>>129622701
>After that we conquered the whole known world.
Classical philologist here, while the romans liked to claim that that was never true even for their knowledge of the world and it wasn't the only large empire around through most of its history either.
One thing plebs tend not to understand is that one of the few things bigger than the roman empire was the roman ego.
They declared themselves the rulers of the world long before they ever really got big as an empire and even before they actually were an empire.
Read, or translate the Aeneis to understand more about how they saw themselves at the beginning of their empire.

>>129622727
those flowers earn money, and we produce alot of baby-formula for china 'n shit, we cucked them by sending dutch CEO's to chinese firms and bankrupting them so the dutch and italians took over that market

>>129623019
>those flowers earn money
>Petty economics and science dont keep a country alive in times of need
Stopped reading there, you need to try harder when you troll and at least be slightly consistent.
Nice merchant though.

>>129622727
germans were to romans what mudslimes and nignogs are to the west.

then break the empire down and like the monkies you are you just copy the romans

Btw how german are you, do you have a bloodline to Charlemagne? I am dutch and I even have it.

>>129620795

>muh we are a Holy Empire, we are right and the Pope is wrong
Retard, you can't claim to be a Holy Empire if you disobey the Pope.
And the adjective "holy" was there to show the ambition to dominate papal states. States lost by the HRE at the beginning of the 15th century. And the last emperor crowned by a pope was in 1530.

>Rome as the holy city does not Equal Rome as an italian city
I quoted "italian" to show that Germans have nothing to do with the Roman Empire that wasn't limited to Rome. The HRE claimed to be the successor of the Western Roman Empire, not just Rome.

>muh Karl > Napoleon
That's not the subject.

>>129611164
HRE wasn't the first Reich retard.
German Empire > Weimar Republic (yes it was still referred to as Reich) > Nazi Germany.
A revived HRE wouldn't be the fourth Reich.

>>129622952

Dont worry I know about "the limit of the Empire" (even if i dont remember who was the emperor who gave his predecessor conquered territories back due to this "empire limit") I simply used a popular quotes "romans conquered the world!"

>>129623305
Uhm no, it was.

>>129623185
we produce enough food for the country, after that is reach you produce goods of decadance for larger profits, idiot, I can see why germans are shit traders and get cucked by every country that traded, the french, english, dutch, italians etc.

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>>129623284
>>129623300
>All this butthurt
Autistic hate is bad for your health.

>>129623284
Germanic people made up a big part of the Roman Empire. The northern provinces were all Germanic, including France, Belgium and parts of modern Germany. And Germans became very influential and important in the late Empire.

>>129622727
>Also, the roman empire was killing itself long before it fell you historically illiterate nigger.
Who is saying the Roman Empire wasn't collapsing? Why don't you tone down your autism. That doesn't change the fact that Germanics were the ones who destroyed the Roman Empire, and then claimed to be the successors. Not my fault your ancestors were retarded savages who >WUZ ROMANS N SHIEET.

>>129622917
>Like defending Christ and Rome?
That worked out so well for Antipope John XVI. That worked out so well for the Byzantine Empire (you know, the real Roman Empire), which you destroyed during the 4th Crusades. Germanics are a cancer.

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>>129623642
You are dealing with someone sick of anti-German hatred. The antidote to it is not logic, reason and evidence. It's conquest.

>>129621881
That IS HRE. Charlemagne was crowned as its first emperor.

>>129623284
lel no

>>129623300
>Retard, you can't claim to be a Holy Empire if you disobey the Pope.
The Pope is but a man, frenchy and certainly not infallible, so yeah, you can.
>And the adjective "holy" was there to show the ambition to dominate papal states.
Nope, you realize that some shit is just named a certain way because it sounds good, right?
You didn't need to be holy to have bishophrics under you, that wasn't even anything new.

>I quoted "italian" to show that Germans have nothing to do with the Roman Empire that wasn't limited to Rome.
Nice to see that you write irrelevant shit then.

>The HRE claimed to be the successor of the Western Roman Empire, not just Rome.
One thing came with the other, you overcomplicate things here.

>That's not the subject.
You're arguing to me about shit I didn't say and shit I didn't argue for.
You act like I'm saying it should have been called roman when I just explained WHY it was called roman.
I seriously don't give a shit if that was the name or not, Voltaire was just an idiot who didn't know history and tried to be edgy.

>>129623541
>>Petty economics and science dont keep a country alive in times of need
You're making yourself look dumb.

>>129623759
>That doesn't change the fact that Germanics were the ones who destroyed the Roman Empire,
If you hold a gun against your head and press the trigger, the gun is not a murderer you retard.
I know it's hard for your kind, but at least try to think.

>Not my fault your ancestors were retarded savages who >WUZ ROMANS N SHIEET.
That still wasn't the point of the name, you can only see it that way because you lack the intelligence to think in more than just memes.

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>>129623625
meh, I earn alot of money on you guys, I charge germans double for advice and they don't even notice. and they think I am cheap, always thanking me and shit, I give them 3 day old coffee.

love you gullible guys

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>>129623759
Worked out pretty well with Charles Martel
Kept west europe muslim free till you guys liberate us

>>129623305
fucking burger

>>129624195
>I earn alot of money on you guys,
I like how I can always stop after your first sentence when you post, very efficient.
also
>thinking that Hitler only fought one war
Historically illiterate, as I said.

>have glorious Holy Roman Empire
>actually just a bunch of greedy princes fighting one another and rarely doing anything useful.

>>129624572
Original ancaps, desu

>>129624195
Nietzsche did not believe that the strongest always prevail. The Übermensch was his ideal, something to aspire to. He hoped it would prevail, but it was never predetermined. For instance, he believed that if we staid with the slave moralities of Christianity we would not reach it. Of course, Nazism conflates super man with German people, but then it should follow that German people are not invulrneable and predetermined to win either.

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>>129624402
Nice isnt it?
Have you payed all your WW2 reparations btw? or the NATO bill to uncle (((Samuel))?

>>129624180
>If you hold a gun against your head and press the trigger, the gun is not a murderer you retard.
What a retarded analogy. Jesus Christ. The Roman Empire was in a state of decline, but it was sacked. You destroyed it. Get the fuck over it. Whose to say that the Roman Empire would collapse if the Germans didn't destroy it? The ERE (under Justinian) almost restored the Roman Empire in spite of Germanic autism

>That still wasn't the point of the name, you can only see it that way because you lack the intelligence to think in more than just memes.
The point of the name was to claim dominion over the Roman Empire, and by extension the Catholic Church. That's why the HRE Emperors were in a constant state of in-fighting with the Popes for appointing bishops (see: Concordat of Worms). The fact that you called my historically illiterate is fucking hilarious. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about

>>129624742
why are you protecting germany fingol? you guys are pretty cool

>>129624838
Not even memeing, that flag looks supremely shitty.

>>129624231
B-but the Franks were French and shieeeeet.

>>129624180

>lel the Pope is just an ordinary man fuck him also Jesus was just a dead like on a stick
>lel "holy" sounds good I'll name my Empire like this
>lel stop overcomplicating that's becoming too difficult to understand for me

>>129624231
>Kept west europe muslim free till you guys liberate us
And are flooding Europe with Muslims today

>>129611060
>>129611789
>>129612140
gib tax free shekels pls

>>129622727
>decadence killed the Roman Empire

I love this meme

>>129625008
>caring about the truth is only right if some "side" you're on benefits from it.
The Untermensch.

>>129624849
>What a retarded analogy.
Stopped reading right there, let's see if you did better below.

>The point of the name was to claim dominion over the Roman Empire, and by extension the Catholic Church.
Oh for fuck's sake...
If that would have been the case Karl wouldn't have gone so easy on the Pope.
Stop considering your own head-canon as facts.

>>129625011
thanks, Put so much effort in it, the NSDAP could've used it

>>129625272
It's true though. Very few nations have been conquered when the people didn't want to be conquered.

>>129624360
Don't say that without providing an argument.
Only the Nazi regime believed the HRE was an actual German Reich, emphasis on German.
It was a mess of unorganized states and had no clear German identity. If it was to be referred to a German Reich, where is the Frankish Empire in that picture?
I thought your country understood that the HRE was a load of garbage, isn't that why it came into existence?

>>129625336
I'd rather be an "Untermensch" then a german, I dont want to be in your Resonation chamber of autism, aslong you have european heritage or you've proven yourself you good in my books, that stupid division of the white race is just the german supremacy disease

>>129611164
digits confirms

>>129625144
>the pope isn't infallible
>lel fuck the pope
There's a large difference here and if you'd be a proper catholic then you'd know that the Pope only speaks with the voice of god in very, very limited circumstances.
And that only happened a few times in history, I think the last time was about the virginity of Mary.

>>lel "holy" sounds good I'll name my Empire like this
Are you an autist? That was quite often how naming your realm worked in history.

>>lel stop overcomplicating that's becoming too difficult to understand for me
I know that you feel super smart if you interpret shit like you did into that word, but the world just isn't always that interesting.

>>129625272
Their army was replaced by Germanics because they lost the will to fight, the usual Roman infighting went beyond the shit that was going on during century before Augustus and the Romans had become too comfortable in their safety.
So yeah, it did.

>>129625661
It's "than" if you compare things.
>that stupid division of the white race is just the german supremacy disease
>supremacy
Look at your posts in this thread, m8.

The pope crowned good old Frank as thanks for protecting him from the eastern roman empire. He was notably quite angry about the fact of not being crowned by the people, but given his authority by god. It was just a prestigious title to him. His empire was his own. The holy roman empire came into being as the Kingdom of East Francia, one of the three successors slowly transioned into it. The prince electors chose their emperor from the guy that brought them all together to fend of an invasion from, I think it was the Magyars.

They even had and tradition to allways put an Karling on the throne, but even that one went away over time, only resurfacing with the other dinasty that got voted onto the throne time and time again later on.

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>>129612586
made me ponder...

>>129611060
It' full of Frenchies and Italians. We'll take Slovenia and Bohemia, I guess.

>>129625336
>If that would have been the case Karl wouldn't have gone so easy on the Pope.
literally not an argument

>>129611060
Neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.

>>129625336
>I conveniently stopped reading because I can't deal with facts.
So brave

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>>129625880
What with my post? we never bothered our neighbours without valid reason, and working together doesnt mean making one big state.
Every people has its own agenda, but we atleast fucked around outside of europe, you guys were dicking inside of europe because of
>Muh aryan masterrace
Just kill the jews, dont bother the countries idiot

>>129619982
The pope never gave napoleon any church blessing, so no Napoleon has nothing to do with rome

>>129626042
>"he did it because he wanted to rule catholicism!"
>"he had the chance to and didn't, so obviously that wasn't the point"
>"literally not an argument"
America.

>>129626227
Like a dancing monkey you're merely here to entertain me, nigger.
Fail to do so and you fail to keep my attention, simple, isn't it?

>>129626103
>>129626283
Read the thread to find out why the quote is silly.

>>129626295
You didn't fight much in europe because you were too weak to have much of a chance and knew it, stop making up excuses for that.
And you keep on talking about Hitler's racial ideology as if that would have anything to do with me.
Which is funny, considering that it was all the rage in every country back then, but I guess you didn't learn that in (((school))) and thought only Hitler liked racial science back then.

>>129620862
>Dat moment you argue with a country that was the fear of the british navy
Our sailors feared laughing to death when they saw your "navy", colgate.

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>>129626652
Germans Eternally BTFO

>>129626415
>let me pick out one emperor and ignore literally the rest of the history of the HRE, because I'm retarded and can't make a decent argument.
Again, not an argument.

>Like a dancing monkey you're merely here to entertain me, nigger. Fail to do so and you fail to keep my attention, simple, isn't it?
And yet you keep replying to me. I sure am "failing to keep your attention".

>>129623642

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_Roman_Empire
>implying some percents of Germans are relevant
>implying some Frankish legions who protect the Rhein border is relevant
>implying invading a collapsing empire and sacking Rome is a form of influence

>>129611060
What is dead may never die!

>>129626916
>three ships
wew lad
Historical records date back quite far, I'm sure you could have found a major defeat with landforces somewhere.

>>129626923
>let me pick out one emperor and ignore literally the rest of the history of the HRE,
You mean the one who chose the fucking name?
Whom this is about, since this is about the name?
If your parents named you bob then the opinion of your girlfriend doesn't matter when it comes to WHY you were named bob you stupid nigger.

>And yet you keep replying to me. I sure am "failing to keep your attention".
You certainly did there.
If you play a game, stop playing it for a while because it got boring but then return back to it, does that make you a bad person?

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>>129626890
Anglo-dutch wars
>>129626916
thats the propper list*
Germans Eternally BTFO

>>129627708
>stealing a kettle
THE TAKING OF THE BIKES WILL COMMENCE AGAIN

>>129627586
>reacting to the kettle war seriously
Damn this is some autism.

>>129627820
>seriously >>129627795
You know, the inability to read the mood IS actually a sign of autism.

>HOLY
>ROMAN
>EMPIRE

>>129627586
our currency was atleast the world standard for quite a time, something germans never achieved

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>>129611060
everything below the alpes is heavily jew mongrolized
2% my ass

>>129627996
World standard is a big word, western world maybe.
But actually the D-Mark was one of the most used currencies all over the world and if you went on holidays in the 80s even african shitholes always gladly took them.

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>>129625161
>till you guys liberate us
>>129625070
Franks are the Germanics french is more of a lingual thing also France is based till We wuz kingslayers and shit

>>129627901
Oh shit I didn't see a post that was posted 12 seconds before I posted my own.
Dammit, I'm autistic as hell.

>>129628397
You could have seen it from the first one already tbqh, the second one just made it more obvious.

>>129611060
Guten Abend mein Bruder. Cöln reportiert ein.

>>129628159
>wew africans accepting your money
Africans even accept 2nd hand food dingus

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dafuq happened here?

Can anyone explain to me how these literal mountain niggers get away with being so neutral all the goddamn time? The whole world blows itself up to smithereens and these faggots sit here and cuck France outta lakefront property, just because

>>129625880

>The term sacrum ("holy", in the sense of "consecrated") in connection with the medieval Roman Empire was used beginning in 1157, under Frederick I Barbarossa ("Holy Empire") – the term was added to reflect Frederick's ambition to dominate Italy and the Papacy;[22] the form "Holy Roman Empire" is attested from 1254 onward.[23]

When you get rid of papacy, the denomination "holy" doesn't make a sense anymore.

>>129628571
Keulen/Cologne not Cöln/Köln

>>129628771
We'll never be Dutch

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>>129613883
>How do rivers work?

>>129628865
V O L K S V E R R Ä T E R

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>Germans refugee into Italy "We Roman Now"
>Germans refugee into Britian "We Britian Now"
>Germans refugee into Prussa "We Prussian NOw"
>Germans refugee into Russia "We Russian Now"
>Germans refugee into America "We America Now"

The remaing German population to the point of no return.

Merkel will control Europe via the EU turning Europe into the Holy Cuck Empire backed by American DataJew companies such as Apple, Google, Uber, and Tesla.

>>129613883
Because you touch yourself at night

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>>129628646
I think it has something to do with people cucking france out of its natural borders, The blue line is the natural french border

>>129627586
>The immediate beneficiary of the coronation was the pope, whose position henceforth was secure. Charlemagne was left to face its momentous consequences and, particularly, to secure that recognition from Constantinople without which his title was legally invalid.

> In 812, after unsuccessful war and wearisome negotiation, the Byzantine emperor Michael I recognized Charlemagne’s imperial title. It was still a personal title, and Charlemagne was recognized merely as emperor, not as emperor of the Romans; in other words, the emperor in Constantinople maintained his claim to be the only true successor to the Roman Caesars.

Pope Leo played you

>>129627586
>If you play a game, stop playing it for a while because it got boring but then return back to it, does that make you a bad person?
kek if your "game" is being retarded and not understanding history than sure

>>129625997
We fought turks before and won. But you can always try.

>>129628162
>till you guys liberate us
not this time.

>>129622952
>They declared themselves the rulers of the world long before they ever really got big as an empire and even before they actually were an empire.
It's the attitude, stupid.

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>>129630425
I kek'd

>>129613883

Downstream of rivers are referred to lower, upstreams refer to top; so they're basically switched, same with upper and Lower Egypt

>>129630890
hasn't it more to do with, Lower laying in the lowlands, and upper being elevated more due to being deeper in teh continent though?

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>>129629632

>>129611060
RARE
A
R
E

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This one is better

>>129623305
>>>>American """""Education""""""

>>129631509
That is a completely retarded clusterfuck.
I love it.

>>129631509
A+
considered fixed af

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ITT: one very buttblasted German.

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Atleast is the german problem sorting it self out thanks to mutti merkel
>>129631509
Map gore, I love it

>>129620007
>as much
Feels bad man

>>129631268
I love that map

>>129631509
It's retarded and whoever came up with it knows very little about history and ancestoral lands.
I love it.

>>129632421
I like the Sunni-Shia dual theocracy, surelty that wont give any problems ;)

>>129631509
A+ on:
>Uncolonised
>Eastonia
>Westonia
>Romania
>Russia
>Israel
>Coatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina
>3 Germanies

>>129632553
I For one like the Athiest Trans-Technocracy and California.

>>129631509
>greater San Marino sans San Marino

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>>129632018 (you)
did the eternal kraut leave?
shame

>>129612586
Underrated

>>129615568
>ladonia
Wew

Grüß Gott eternal krautz, and I hope you and your girlfriend (whomst shared her bed with jamal) have a great nights rest! I've got to go, tomorrow will be a nice day charging stupid germans €300-€400/hr for advice on planting some fucking seeds!

>>129611060
YOU WILL NEVER HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE
YOU WILL FALL BECAUSE YOU NEVER TRIED TO STAND FOR YOURSELVES

It was neither holy, Roman nor an empire.

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>>129630425
>We fought turks before and won.
So did we.

>>129622727
>East Rome isn't *really* Rome
Are you fucking retarded?

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>implying the HRE was organized and actually controlled all of the land in that pic

>>129611646
What a fucking cluster fuck, why didn't they just split it into like 4 kingdoms

>>129611060
pls restore

pls no
also depopulate germanic hordes to mainanable levels pls

>>129611060
Not a new empire, but a common economic, culture and defense policy would be fine.

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>>129623284
fucking brutal

>liechten(((stein)))

>>129613883
Up isn't North. Up is up. One is more up than the other.

>>129622150
>Roman Empire
>Doesn't control Rome
Versus
>Endorsed by the literal Pope in Rome
It's really easy to understand if you clear the leaves out of your brain.

>>129619099
>Shooting and conquering niggers is not an achievement
More than Germany has achieved. Name one war Germany has won against white people.

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just try

>>129621128
>give the dutch germany and it would be a superpower
Give the Germans the Netherlands and not much changes. The problem with you Dutch is that you're very similar to the British. You think you're top shit because you had PRIME land and a nice coast to build boats on, therefore dominating trade. If it wasn't for the HRE you fags would've been conquered time and time again by the French/Spanish/English, never developing a cultural identity in the first place due to being a mixed back of shit. The irony is that you deny your Germanic brothers when it was because they had your back that you were allowed to proper at all. Now you're an insignificant spec on the annals of history as you hang on to your long lost pride while your country becomes increasingly feminine and drugged up.

>>129616195
>The Carolingian Empire was a better model for Europe.
Fuck off, eternal baguette. Your philosophical autism(admittedly coupled with German theological autism) led us where we are today.