Why is being an atheist such a meme on 4chan? >look mom I

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Because it's manchild tier nihilism and intellectually irresponsible to rule out spirituality as something vital to the human condition.

>>129481443
>Christian
>Nazi
Pick one.

>>129481149
>that one retard that doesn't understand christianity is needed to uphold a civilized society

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>>129481685
>christianity is needed to uphold a civilized society

>what is south america
>what are parts of africa

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>>129481149
>THERE IS NO GOD
>There is no
>There is
>no

>>129481149
Paganism and atheism truly are the most pathetic """""religions""""". They're typically edgy fags with no belonging.

>>129482393
Atheism is not a religion you fucking idiot

>>129481149
Because a lot of faggots used "I'm atheist" as an excuse to make them seem special and superior just like every other fad.

>>129482551
Why do you think I posted religions as """""religions""""". Because they're not. They are said to be, but truly are not.

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I hold a B.A in Philosophy.

You are a pleb tier thinker unless you're a Panthiest.

Because they unironically believed people like hitchens, Harris, Dawkins were intelligent.

It's just a bit sad to see slow teenage boys thinking being an atheist is edgy. It's a whole different level of pathetic when grown men think the same thing.

>>129481149
They see how their culture and ethnicity are slipping through their fingers and try to hold on to something, doesn't matter what.

>>129481149
Atheists, along with cultural marxists, pagans, SJWs, feminists, communists, etc are all different heads of the same hydra.

Christ is the only way out of the belly of the beast.

>>129483369
Fucking spot on cunt. If you truly wish to be an anti-Communist, you cannot be what they preach. And that is atheism.

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>>129483369
>Christ is the only way out of the belly of the beast.

reminder that pic related is christian

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>>129481592
>got mitt uns on everybelt
>prayers before a large battle
>Hitler statues found in German churches
>Hitler jugend had bible sessions

And Hitler was a catholic

People who say that Christianity is necessary are truly pathetic.

why do you fools assume that people can't just live for themselves or their people?

there are alternatives to the irrational belief in an omnipotent jew god.

>>129482013
Yeah those are shitskins. Christianity in white couintries works out.

>>129482013
>south america
>FUCKING AFRICA
>civilized
Uhhh...

>>129483369
Amen. And none of this bullshit nu-Christian bile they seem intent on shoving down everyone's throat. Heretics should burn

Atheism is is kinda like vegetarianism, noone gives a fuck, but if you tell them about it they'll automatically assume you're a shitheads.

>>129481592
Hey everyone, it's the goy that fell for the "Hitler was an athiest" meme!

Congrats, you fell for another Jewish trick.


Not that it really matters, the Catholic Church is dead and gone, (((they))) have been placing their own puppet anti-popes for decades now.

>>129483685
Protestants are not Christians

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>>129481443
>spirituality

>>129482013
What are you smoking? South America was literally colonized by the far more bible thumping variety of colonial power (Portugal and Spain). They remain very religious to this day, and it's probably the only reason they haven't devolved into more of a hell hole than they already are.

As far as Africa, I have no idea what civilization you are referring to, but pretty much everything sub saharan has been a massive shit fest since the dawn of man, and north of the Sahara is literally just remnants of Roman/Greek culture. Infested by islam now, but if you really think they created any of their prosperity without European intervention, fuck you.

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>>129481149

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>>129484184
so does Atheism.

Christianity has always been counter-productive, the thing that made white countries so great were white people themselves, period.

we don't need any dumbasses who worship a jew, an actual fucking kike, on a stick.

Seriously, fuck Christians, they are mere Minions to their (((Masters))).

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>>129484364
Take that back fgt.

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>>129484748
No, you disgusting schismatic.

>>129484687
See, if you were here in front of me, I'd stab the shit out of you. This is the fire Christians need again, the ability to recognize evil and extinguish it

You're honestly a fucking retard if you're an atheist. Albert Pike invented atheism for the profane masses while those controlling society use true religion to their advantage.

>>129481443
Look mom I put 6 difficult words in one sentence, now I'm right, right?

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>>129482919
>hurr durr everything is god
>hurr durr everything is magic

retarded children: the belief

Even fucking dumber than monotheism

/pol/ has always been a pagan board. (((Atheists))) and (((Christians))) are Jewish

>>129485118

See

>>129484663

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>>129484905
>one guy invented a nonbelief in spiritual bullshit

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>>129481149
If Atheists voted republican I'd be all for them. They're virtue signalling cucks that deserve all the mockery they receive.

t. Atheist

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>>129484864
If you would "stab the shit out of me" you would just prove that you're an irrational fool who has to rely on violence to defend his irrational position.

>>129484905
>invented atheism
>mfw

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>>129484905
>an american invented atheism
okay burger

I really hope you neck yourself, fucking idiot

>>129484947
Might want to pick up a few books if those words are giving you trouble.

>>129484687
>so does atheism
no it doesn't, the current europe proves what happens when people lose faith

atheism is just belief in no god

if you really dont care about religion why bother to quantify it
just fuck off

thats why atheists are so retarded

>>129485230
Nah, I recognize evil, see it spreading its stain on the world, and long to destroy it. Just like God

>>129484687
Actual Christianity, the sort of fire and brimstone preaching that led to "convert or die" was what kept Europe safe for hundreds of years.

Do you seriously think a bunch of cuck athiests would have been able to turn back the tide of Muslims in Spain? Or the Ottoman incursions that very nearly destroyed Europe?

I'm a degenerate heretic by the metric of any of the desert trilogies, but I recognize just how important Christianity was in at least staving off the inevitable demise of Western Civilization.

When you no longer look toward a higher power that hates people not like yourself, you suddenly start getting cucked ideas like "Not all muslims!", and that it's okay to have shit like miscegenation.

But hey, at least you get to wear your fedora, and feel superior to the dumb religious guy right?

>>129485361
explain to me what "evil" means to you.

>>129483849
Yeah, Hitler was such a catholic that he promoted positive christianity and their denunciation of old testament. Also it was his catholicism that made him pick pagan Himmler as his right hand man.
>>129484234
>americans
>reading comprehension

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>>129484947
>Good vocabulary is bad
Nigger Tier post anon.

>>129485486
romans kept europe safe too, then fucking sandnigger christians came

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>>129485303
the solution to europes islam problem is agressive-no-prisoner secularism/anti-theism, not a return to christianity.

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>>129485556

>>129481149
if the fedora pictures bother you at all you really are down on the children's level

let them fight and argue about make believe characters and post pictures of fat cunts in hats if it helps their minds cope somehow

>>129485212
This is a large part of why I fucking hate athiests.

They aren't even a neutral force, like some faggot that sucks dicks but keeps it to themselves. They are an enemy of western civilization, in that they actively attempt to undermine it to virtue signal.

>>129485283
>>129485582
No you faggots it's easy to see when someone is tryharding.

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>>129485486
>When you no longer look toward a higher power that hates people not like yourself, you suddenly start getting cucked ideas like "Not all muslims!", and that it's okay to have shit like miscegenation.

>>129485535
For example, someone who denies the divinity of Christ when the evidence is put plainly before them. And worse, someone who would attempt to lead others away from the truth. You are a plague, a virus designed to separate man from God. You disgust me. I would treat you as I would treat the enemy, and have God grind you to dust beneath my feet.

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>>129484110
You are being extremely shallow to dispense with the value of Christianity for humanity. You might not believe in the existence of an omnipotent creator as described in the Bible and much of it may sound like superstitious nonsense but true spirituality and the stories derived serve to temper the beast that dwells within all humans.
Humans always serve Gods, they are universal innate characteristics like rage, war, envy (there are even Gods for these like Mars etc.) You dispense with the stories of religious teaching and the natural evil resident in men is permitted to roam free.
I don't belong to any church and I'm not sure I believe in a creator God but I do consider myself Christian in background, even if I have never really set foot in a church in my life.
Atheists, especially the nu-atheist variety are rightfully mocked for not attempting to make a deeper understanding of what Christianity really means for us. They are by-and-large narrow minded fools who have latched on to the idea that they are intellectually superior for rejecting what they see as the obviously irrational. The irony being, that is the very thing they ridicule christians about.

>>129485648
Korwin is a deist, not a christian.

>>129481149

>when asked about your beliefs of lack of you now have to state you're a non-believer because the word atheist has been tainted by insufferable faggots

>>129485772
>someone who denies the divinity of Christ when the evidence is put plainly before them
>evidence
WAT

>>129485486
faggot, if you're nothing without your irrational belief, you don't deserve to rule Evropa.

if atheism makes you into a weakling you shouldn't reproduce for you're either born as an independent man or a cocksucker.

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>>129484828
Take it back now!

>>129485166
2/10 Troll harder newfag.

>>129485956
Begone PROT!

>>129481149
>paganism make more sense then atheism?
Sure does

>>129481149
>fat fedora guy pic
It's funny how it was actualy started by feminists.

>>129485624
>Pics of the universe
>atheist
>gintonic
>kill bill
>edgy usernames in mmorpgs
>^^

>>129485825
>yeah it makes no sense, but you gotta temper that beast man
>fuck *hits bong*
>humans have always served gods, gods are characteristics man and we dispense stories about this man
>ive never been to church and aren't a Christian and all
>but man
>I'm a Christian

t.you
seek help you drug fucked idiot

>>129485772
I haven't seen any of this "evidence" you're talking about, but let me teach you what evil really is.

Evil is someone who spreads irrationality trough conquest and fear mongering, for example, threatening someone with eternal suffering and pain is what I would consider to be "evil".

Christianity and Islam pursue extremely similar goals, and as such, Christians are nothing but Islamic collaborators. The only way to destroy the savage, goat-fucking and science-hating pedophile cult is to pursue the antithesis of Islam: anti-theism, anti-traditionalism, anti-conservatism, anti-collectivism.

>>129485745
Did you even read what you green texted?

>a higher power that hates people not like yourself

I've even stated my belief earlier in this thread, that the current catholic church has been subverted by the Jews. "pope" Francis is a useful idiot that is pushing bullshit. Think it was a coincidence that when emperor popatine started pushing the church back toward it's hardline roots, he suddenly "couldn't continue as the pope", and was replaced by this ultra cuck?

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>>129486056
Sorry ole' chap, but Southern Baptist is the only true form of Christianity.

Which study bible should I pick for clearer understanding, KJV used antique english, no?

>>129481149
>t. Reddit tourist

>>129486372
Go schism somewhere else. Enjoy your 30,000+ denominations.

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>>129486209
You win this one

>>129481149
All religious views (except THAT one) are equally relevant.

Its just Athesism is a haven for EDGELORDS because "Its so cool to not believe in a deity and be all depressive man."

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>>129481149
Because atheist claim to follow objective truth's and "science" but they have a very little understand of any actual science and their whole ideology revolves around the lack of objectivity.


Religion atleast attempts to inject objective truths into society, laying out what is right and wrong, but atheism does not do this. Atheism is the ultimate "feels" argument, you are stating that you feel like god doesnt exist so he must not.

Most atheist have a very basic understanding of the science they worship, they dont understand any of it, but it suits their agenda to say so.

There is a reason most credible scientists are atleast agnostic, because the universe is a confusing and weird place, were even the most basic priniciples of conservation and causality sometimes break down and devolve.

>>129486327
Fear is how you control the masses, it can be positive fear, in that you are encouraging them to do good things, not evil things.

Or it can be arbitrary like secret police hunting you down for any form of dissent.

At the end of the day however, you can NOT have civilization without fear of consequences for undermining that civilization. When you remove that fear, when you can do whatever the fuck you want, because 'muh freedom', you get the collapse of Europe like you are experiencing right now (and probably causing as a shitskin turk).

>>129482393
yeah faggots like you don't understand atheism and make so much noise.
>b-b--bu-but you must worship smth! If not God then yourself or money!
no. Learn to make your own goals in life without the church telling you what to think.

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>>129486283
>t. inner city melbourne homosexual
pic related, it's you reddo

>>129486327
This is probably where you expect me to tell you where you're wrong and try to bring you to God. Fuck that, I'm shaking your dust off my feet instead. Your narrow-mindedness and assumption that you know better than God will be your damnation. I have no desire to coddle you, to convert you, or even explain things to you. You are lost, and God has given you over to your reprobate mind. The only thing that awaits you now is death, and it is only His mercy that does not deliver you unto it immediately. Burn forever, its the future you chose

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>>129486491
Baptists only read KJV of the bible.
Catholics read pamphlets, and are taught what to think.
Catholics worship the Pope, and Mary
We worship Jesus
It seems we are the true Christians.

>>129486872

Not a very compelling argument, I'm afraid.

>>129481443
>Doesn't know what atheism is
>Doesn't know what nihilism is
>Doesn't know what spirituality is
>Still thinks he's smart enough to think atheism is for manchilds
T. The average theocuck

>>129481149
have you ever talked to an atheist from the perspective of not being one?

they will seem like the biggest edgelord you ever met in your life.
Yes, even Pagan larpers are less edgy.

And so, a meme was born.
Spoiler: atheists are the ones making shit like "Coldsteel The Hedghog" all over the internet which we still enjoy laughing at today.

>>129486721
You truly don't understand the religion, and why people yearn it now. It isn't for "YOU MUST WORSHIP OUR GOD REE". It's about the social-collective. Look at what has happened to Europe socially without God? You have the whole society being splintered and degenerated because of Godlessness, and at the very least the values taught by the bible. Tolerance is what atheism is, and for that matter Protestantism. Religion now has nothing to do what the church wants you to do with your life. It is a guide. We have left God and what have we got? A crumbling civilization.

>>129486741
lmao
try rural Tasmania cunt

get help

>>129485741
No you dumb faggot it's clearly someone using the choicest words for explaining their position

Quit projecting your inferiority

>>129487059
I missed the part where I was arguing anything. Those are facts

>>129486679
so you're telling me that it's better to live like a sheep because you're too weak to be a free man?

congrats faggot, you just played yourself.

Agnostic, leaning towards atheist here. I at least can see a philosophical case for SOME kind of God.

As for the bible being a scientific/historical document, I have my doubts.

>>129486872
It's people like you who make people turn to atheism tbqh

>>129485741
Cry about it nigger.

>>129481149
Because the atheism meme is pushed by Jews to break the ties that bind Western civilization

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>>129487134
here's your boy you cocksucking queer

>>129486970
>Catholics worship the Pope.

That is completely false. We don't worship Mary either. We admire her for her being the mother of Jesus.

As for your 'True Christians' remark. That would be us and the Orthodox church. Jesus, along with Peter created it until the faithful schism in 1054 due to the Byzantines not being happy with the HRE. You have 30,000 denominations as mentioned previously. You can't be true Christians when you pick and choose what to believe.

>>129481149
There's atheism and then there's the ""atheism"" you see from some faggots that the images are intended to mock, which will attack anything Christian with a senseless hatred, so blinded by their hard belief that there's no God that they can't find any merit in what was essentially one of the pillars of western civilization.

They try to destroy something that has value, beauty and cultural significance, whether you have faith in it or not.

>>129486335
On what basis things like miscegenation were hated by christians? Hell, it wasn't seen as a bad thing until enlightenment.

>>129487364
You took the time to reply so you seem quite concerned faggot

>>129487087
>if we redefine spirituality to mean "yoga" we can claim to be atheist and spiritual!
>we are the trendsetters!

also He got the definition of nihilism right, its you who need to check the dictionary, friendo.

>>129487300
Good, I am not here to convince anyone. I am here to spread the word of Christ, an unapologetic man who spoke in no uncertain terms. Choose life or death, that's up to you.

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>>129481149

Q: How many atheists here have studied the scriptures? And with scriptures I don't mean the bible alone, I also mean the apocrypha, gnostic scripture, dead sea scrolls, enoch...

>>129486872
>faggot thinks he can not try to convert people and claim to be a christian
Pride, sloth and wrath are deadly sins, anon. You gonna burn in the same vat in hell.

>>129481149
atheism is for edgy kids
i too had that phase, turned my back from god
found my way back through too many redpills

What's with the expectation to go with a religion, anyway? I never understood it, but I still respect it.
I have never had a God or Gods talk to me or contact me, and I've never seen any evidence there is a god at work, and I don't care if other people believe in a God. If anything, it's better if they do, because then they'll have a better moral sense, because they think something or someone is always judging them.

>>129485556
Old testament is a book for the Jews. As a Christian you do not need to read it. There is a reason that Jews don't like the new testament and Jesus.

>Himmler a threat in the early stages of the war

Late war Hitler is an idiot I can agree with you on that.

>>129486872
>burn forever, it's the future you chose

and even if, so what?

I'd rather burn as a free man than spend eternity with my retarded master who doesn't understand that it's not a good idea to fill his fairytale with inconsistencies.

If God does exist, I am above him and he doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as i.

>>129487143
There's a clear difference in an actual intellectual argument and a 10th grader putting together some words he parroted from a post he read the day before.

>>129487718
Another fool who knows nothing proclaiming he is wise. Spreading the gospel != converting people. If the people are intolerant of the message, shake their dust off your feet and begone.

>>129487240
who cares about weakness if morality doesnt exist?

>>129487703
Quite an interesting literature. But i wouldn't advise reading dead sea scrolls and stuff like Ascension of Isaiah if you want to keep being a christian. It kind of undermines the whole premise.

>>129481443
If you believe in god(s) and accept him as your superior you are a cuck. No exceptions. Especially Christians, your god literally impregnated his followers wife.

>>129487898
Then burn, I care not.

>>129487935
You're still projecting

>>129487955

Me. And that other anon.

>>129488047
Not my problem you can't see it.

>>129487864
>Old testament is a book for the Jews. As a Christian you do not need to read it.
Matthew 5:18
Are fags ok then as well?

>>129481149
Because it gets a reaction.

I'm an atheist. I don't give a shit about religion, and I don't respond to the flat Earth bullshit or the daily christfag threads.

I'm not here for religion, I'm here for happenings and interesting tidbits of information.

Also, his name was Seth Rich.

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>>129487955
>Implying morality comes from God.

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>>129487411
We read the Bible. You read a pamphlet manufactured by the Catholic church. How is there even any comparison? Although I consider Catholicism a form of Christianity. It is just a step above shit like Jehovah's Witnesses or Baha'is

>>129488005
>your god literally impregnated his followers wife
To be fair it was his mother.

>>129488135
But I read his original post with no problem, not once did I think to accuse him of being a 10th grader

You must still be in school

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>>129488005
jesus himself is a result of joseph being cucked

>>129481149
they make about equal sense

>>129488241
Who's the one projecting now?

>>129488207
Well, it does.
Constantly living with the fact that someone is judging you, or will judge you is quite nice, I guess, because it stops people from doing sinful stuff.

>>129488220
>We read the Bible.
Did you cut your balls yet? Or you don't need anymore becouse end of the world came in late 1 century?

>>129488197
His name was Seth Rich

>>129488329
Still you

>>129488356
Somehow it doesn't stop muslims.

>>129488005
>if u follow X ur a cuck
The same could be said about all authority.

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This video BTFO of godfags

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>>129481149
atheism+ is why

>>129487955
you're saying that as if these 2 things are bound together.

>>129488356

So you wouldn't be moral without being watched? If so, you don't exactly seem like a saint.

>>129488162
>are fags oke then as well?
Loaded question

Do you follow the ten commandments everyday anon? Ofcourse not because they where written for the Jews.

>>129487523
>Thinks non religious spirituality amounts to "yoga" and atheism leads to nihilism
Into the trash your opinion goes
>Implying you can't find meaning in literature
>Implying you can't find meaning in brotherhood
>Implying you can't find meaning in Parenthood
>Implying you can't find meaning in responsibility
>Implying you can't find fulfillment from meaning
Americuck education, go back to finding meaning in the fleeting pleasures of consumerism and church you fat cuck

>>129488448
Not really a religion, though, more of a retarded cult.

>>129488467
Actually it goes deeper that that. The fedora meme was created by feminists as a way to fight with atheists who didn't buy into atheism+.

>>129488220
>pamphlet manufactured by the Catholic church

There is not point arguing with American education. You know nothing of the church you schismed from.

God may exist or maybe not. I'm not a lucky man so gambling isn't worth the risk.

>>129488356
but if you need a judge to do good and not do evil, you're not really good and just pretending to be someone you're not.

you're still rotten to the core, you just pretend to be pure.

>>129487518
I closed the thread and came back to a bunch of butthurt lol

>>129488636
They still are constantly living with the fact that someone is judging you, or will judge you.
>>129488508
>Do you follow the ten commandments everyday anon? Ofcourse not because they where written for the Jews.
WTF I LOVE STEALING NOW

>>129488502
What can I say? I wank and think sinful thoughts, ect.
I do it freely because I do not feel like I'm being judged, and this includes fantasies about younger girls and other things. If we were to instill a good religion in everyone, all would be well.

>>129488695

But how do you know which belief will win the jackpot? Maybe not believing gets into the good graces of God.

>>129488695
Which god? You might end up with really pissed of Osiris on the other side.

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>>129488661
>A
>Fucking
>Pamphlet

>>129488812

> Constantly living with the fact that someone is judging you, or will judge you is quite nice, I guess, because it stops people from doing sinful stuff.

> I wank and think sinful thoughts, ect.

Oh, come on.

>>129488863
>>129488877
Exactly.

Imagine spending your entire life worshiping God only for it to turn out that oops Buddhism was the correct religion all along and you get reincarnated as a fucking frog.

>>129488788
>CAPS

Read the new testament it will all be clear to you.

>>129488976
Matthew 19:12
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
>bible requires no commentary, i can take shit from it on my own

>>129488698
Look up Kohlberg's stages of moral development. It's actually an interesting point you bring up. There are three stages, pre-conventional, conventional and post-conventional. The one you described is the conventional stage usually associated to teens to young adults where the person adhers to laws, rules and authority figures in order to be 'normal'. In the post-conventional the people are led by morality and ethics.

>>129489003
I'd give away everything I have just to believe in a God.

>>129488976
Great argument there, I am Protestant now. The Pope is stupid. Lets fight Christianity by schisming more.

>>129481149
They mock them because of their funny stereotype.
Also they make fun about because they think of themselfs as very intelligent and enlightend when they really are just awkward autists.

These people arent real athiests, they made their atheism to a religion claiming science is their bible.

If you get triggered by religion you may belong to this profile.

my country is the most atheistic country in europe, maybe in the world. but when I talk to people, everyone almost always believes in something. it is not atheism that is flawed, it's the corruption of faith through it's establishments

>>129481149
>Muh Faganism
>Muh Vargina

If you're religious, you are a brain dead cuck, through, and through, regardless of religious beliefs, nothing else you say matters, because you are such a moron

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>>129489168
The pope literally kisses Muslim's feet, and wants Europe to be invaded, and taken over by them. Doesn't sound like a good form of Christianity to me.

>>129489314
This is correct on all points.
t. atheist who wants to remove muzzie scum with Christians.

>>129489086
Matthew 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
>wtf world is already over

>>129489482
Prodies are giving refugee to illegals in their churches. None of us really has any leg to stand on in this fight. Almost like if fatith had little to do with how patriotic you are.

>>129489123
thank you, anon.

I worship booty. I think it's the best religion.

>>129489482
Is that defeatism i'm hearing? Are you forgetting the Pope is a Jesuit? This Pope will not last forever. Also, many instances of such liberal views have been outright lies or exaggerated. He cannot change church doctrine and nor does he preach against.

He is still the pope in my eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnZyvKQgNYI

>>129487143
You've made no arguments at all. You've, instead, attacked anon's syntax instead of refuting his position. You are the loudest retard in the room.

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>>129481149
People just don't want to associate with it anymore due to the leftist corruption that has plagued it. When people hear atheism their knee jerk reaction is fat neckbeard or purple hair dyke who think communism is kool. I know it's silly but people are really stupid and are influenced by simple memes. The hard truth is the atheist movement had to many people who were just pure anti christian rebels from the Bush era jump on board. This all happened around the time of the rise of Youtube where information could finally be challenged in a digestible way in a large platform that wasn't controlled. I just learned to keep it to myself for the most part unless someone is just acting stupid on here (more then usual). I'll LARP as a pagan to say shit like "my god has a hammer, yours is nailed to a cross. Any questions?". It's easier to engage on their level because nothing hurts a theist fag more then they are worshiping a fucking desert kike.

>>129489884
That's black man's religion.

>>129484184
That is his point dumbass. What build the west wasn't Christianity because if that was the case then South America would be great. What built the west was high IQ whites you mong.

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>>129481443
fpbp

>>129490637

Or, you know, having access to natural resources, domesticatable herbivores and a good climate.

>>129490987
>natural resources, domesticatable herbivores and a good climate
Like native ameircans did?

>>129488544
kek
Finding meaning =/= contact with your spiritual side
sorry mate you are only deceiving yourself

>>129491163

For animals, they had nothing but llamas. And they did manage to build great big cities and figure out some astronomy.

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>>129489943
I don't mind Catholics, but calling protestants non-Christians is bs.
Take it back.

>>129489399
trigger bait
go do some reading

>>129491383
You pick and choose what to believe. Thus you cannot be Christians.

>>129490424
no its more because being an atheist is intellectually indefensible

>>129491533
I've read the entire Bible twice. How is that picking and choosing what to believe?

>>129491698
It is what is preached in your religion. You can choose and pick what to believe. No restrictions.
You are the religion of tolerance.

>>129491698
because there are multiple protestant denominations, over arguments about specifics within the religion. So if you think you should go under the water when you get baptised you can become a baptist, if not you can become one of the other 30 thousand sects. You can quite literally pick and choose from the sects to find the one that suits (((you))).

https://youtu.be/xP5MfjW9TuU 5t

>>129481592
>he fell for the hitler was an atheist meme

>>129481592
R A R E
A
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>>129482919
>Panthiest
>thiest
>B.A in Philosophy
You can burn that now

>>129491311
>Finding meaning =/= contact with your spiritual side
Perhaps If by spiritual you mean a juvenile version of pre modern realism, in which case maybe read a book or take the first week of lectures in any good intro to philosophy course
Contact with your spiritual side = contact with the parts of you that you are not conscious of
Literally even theologians accept this much, they would just go further using the postmodern rejection if reason as just another arbitrary form if truth seeking and invoke revelation instead

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>>129490987
We don't live in that type of world anymore. If your nation has oil you can sell it to America and have a decent country just based off that. That's what Venezuela was doing for a long time without selling to America. Of course a country of shit skins with low IQ went the socialism route and didn't diversify and do anything fucking else and when oil prices dropped so did their economy.

Will play by your rules and will pretend we don't have easy access global trade. Europe a cold, harsh, geographically separated land, managed to cobble together a strong enough economy that would dominate the world while constantly going to war with each other. Meanwhile South Africa a large land mass with plenty of resources couldn't be bothered to build a cohesive enough civilization that had even a basic navy. This applies to the past and now.

A horde of low IQ people can only do so much for you in a society.

You can't prove God exists.
You can't technically prove that God doesn't exist either.
Therefore the most logical stance is agnosticism.

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>>129491652

>>129491893
Yeah but that comes down to being a human, and having a brain. If me and you read a book as long as the Bible I'm sure we would have differences in opinions on what certain parts mean. Some people take verses literally, others take it figuratively. But saying non-Catholics are not Christians is wrong, and you should feel ashamed.

>>129492648
The thing is bible is not just any book.
It is the word of god that you follow.

List of laws in your country is pretty huge too, but it is not open to your personal interpretation

>>129492203
>implying theologians are a group that agree on things
I'm studying philosophy m8, something tells me you've never read into esoteric, mystical or occultist philosophy. Have fun :)

>>129492648
I didn't say that, I was just explaining to you how being protestant means you pick or choose what you believe. Do you still think you haven't picked and chosen your current beliefs? I didn't say whether this was good or bad.

>>129492796
Nice (lack of) argument friendo
No shame in tapping out early

>>129492759
Laws in a country are pretty specific while religious texts are pretty cryptic a lot of the time, and besides laws are open to argument to an extent, which is why being a lawyer is such a lucrative profession.

>>129493015
How is the literal word of god open to interpretation?

>>129492981
You are trying to rationalise subjectivity itself.
There is an obvious argument there, I just didnt realise i had to spell it out for you.

>>129490172
>says the retard

>>129492759
Oh it's only open to other men to interpret for me?
No thanks I have a brain.

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Reddit niggers should go back. /pol/ is a Christian board.

>>129481443

"God is dead" is liberating, havent you heard of the Super Man?

>>129493256
I simply dont get how you can decide what literal word of god means on your own whim. To think that you know better than himself?

>>129493256
Yeah but you don't have an infinite time to use that brain and study and investigate every moral quandary to a degree of complete certainty. You are also far removed from the origins of these religions and from a world where they dominated in orthodox form. Thinking you can come to conclusions on things it took humanity as a whole thousands of years to figure out, is the ultimate show of ignorance.

>>129481149
Because identifying as an atheist is retarded, since it is identifying as something you don't believe in. Atheism is the radical centrism of religion.

>>129481443
Fpbp sage /thread

>>129481149
Agnostic > atheist > religions

>>129493590
You can be agnostic and still religious, or agnostic and atheist. Agnostic is just an opinion on semantics, and accepting that you will decide on personal experience instead.

>>129493176
Like I said it's very cryptic, and one could also argue that it isn't the literal word of God, but rather the word of men inspired by God. It makes sense not to be Catholic because the Vatican enforces it's own interpretation on its followers and has done many hypocritical things such as starting wars, allowing priests to forgive sins instead of just God, and whatever it's called when people could pay for heaven, which is why protestants exist in the first place.

>>129493383
Agnostic Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

>>129481443
I don't rule it out I just think there's no proof either way

Best option on the subject of religion is to be a fencesitter
And yes it's true many people need a bullshit story to sleep better at night or not fear death

>>129493392
Explain

>>129493480
Most of it is pretty straight forward. Such as the Ten Commandments.
It's usually just small verses like; They will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all.
Some take it literal, I take it figuratively.

>>129493383
Pol isn't a Christian board, otherwise it would say so in the rules. It's for anyone unless they're acting stupid or breaking the rules.

>>129483685
Reminder that just because people claim they're Christians doesn't mean they are.

>>129493772
Seems like alot of bull shittery

>>129494185
Nietzche bro. The Ubermensch or however you spell it. It means superman in german..

>>129494441
Which part seems like bullshittery

>>129494510
None you are right.

>>129483849
>>129484355
>>129492000
Nobody thinks hitler was an athiest per se
In private and in his private journals especially he didn't really like Christianity because it's a weak religion made by Jews
In public he supported Christianity because he knew it was a valuable tool for having people on your side and to control people

But remember not liking Christianity=/=not liking religion. Hitlers actual religious beliefs are hard to fully determine to this day but I think he was one of those people who wished we could go back to "original Aryan religion" (aka what many people call paganism)
Much of the Nazi party was pagan but the thing is when you're the national leader you want to inspire loyalty from the people so your public position should be one of support for the majority religion among the people.

>>129494451
Yeah I hard of that guy. Was he any good or was he full of BS?

>>129494451
sorry but the ubermench theory you refer to off Nietzche is the wrong interpretation of his work mainly created by his wife after he passed away

While I don't fully condone religion, the most evil leaders were atheists.
Really I just condone capitalism if that makes any sense.

>>129494908
Many people disagree. I think he was pretty good but not the greatest genuine ever or anything. Look up a couple of YouTube videos I guess.

>>129494920
I never knew. Would you enlighten me per favore?

>>129495218
After his death, Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche became the curator and editor of her brother's manuscripts, reworking Nietzsche's unpublished writings to fit her own German nationalist ideology while often contradicting or obfuscating his stated opinions, which were explicitly opposed to antisemitism and nationalism. Through her published editions, Nietzsche's work became associated with fascism and Nazism; 20th century scholars contested this interpretation of his work and corrected editions of his writings were soon made available.

>>129495218
sorry it was his sister not his wife

>>129495512
OK I was a little skeptical cause I'm pretty sure he was a lonely shut-in

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>>129481149
because everyone here was once that fedora tipping, "the bible is my favorite fiction novel" kind of person, or at least acted like it at some point. talking about atheism is tantamount to saying "why don't you believe in not believing? its easy!", which im sure you are aware but /pol/ doesn't accept easy.

one thing you fail to realize about this place is that its a hurt box, its the exact opposite of a safe space. people come here of their own volition because the truth is intoxicatingly painful. its the ultimate haven of a political masochist. providing people who come here with an easy solution deprives us of that pain, and as such its hard to accept. atheism may be the way to go, but Christianity could also. and religion isn't really as important a topic as you might think it is. you could be part of a long lost sect of Aztec worship and no one would give a shit because moral politics trumps the religious political discussion, and bringing it up is a distraction from that central topic.

>>129484947
Lol this. I only see this type of grammar and words when it's a Christfags start shit with atheists type of thread.

>everyone here was once that fedora tipping, "the bible is my favorite fiction novel" kind of person, or at least acted like it at some point.
Sadly yes.

>>129481443
>Look mum i believe in an imaginary friend and is vital for my existence

Vital? I need no gods to guide and rule my life. Mankind must grow up and search for answers through KNOWLEDGE and INVESTIGATION.

>>129495701
He was batshit crazy in the end but a great philosopher none the less and i am still trying to study his work when i find the time

>>129494783
Paganism is an interesting idea, but realistically, we don't have the original belief system written down in any real fashion.

The best we have when it comes to paganism are abominations created by faggots that were out to make a quick buck. it's not reasonable to believe we can go back to a belief system that no longer exists in it's true form.

>>129483849
>>129484355
>>129492000
So it's alright if I say Im christian but decide to genocide white people, right ?
Tl;DR : Being white and "saying deus vult gas the impures xD" =/= being christian

>>129496968
Protecting your homeland is not something wrong.

>walen

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>>129481149
Paganism is degenerate tier religion

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>>129481149
I do not stupport a Christian theocratic state, but I know Atheists are degenerates on the side of the kikes and must be gassed as well.

>>129497250
>Protecting your homeland by being christian
Protecting it from whom?
And how?
I don't think that a christian gun is much more powerful than an atheist gun desu.
Also
>borders are defined by religion

>>129497946
Atheism almost always goes hand in hand with other virtue signaling. That and pacifism. So yes, a christian gun, if you're talking extremely devout crusader types, is far more powerful than some virtue signaling hippie type.

To answer your first question-
A homogeneous society is a safe, and happy one. Old style christians did not abide heretics and heathens to exist in their land. It was a side benefit that those attitudes tended to get rid of other heterogeneity from society (non-whites, sexual deviants, ect)

>>129481149
Who the fuck decided atheism makes sense? Science now believes the universe is a simulation. They literally believe the universe may have been created by a dude with a beard somewhere.
It took you guys 200,000 years, to arrive at the same conclusion we had all along. Way to go science!! So effective.
btw science, and atheists invented nuclear weapons, and the tools that took us to the brink.
It wasn't Jesus or Muhammad for that matter. It was you poser faggot hypocrites. Go fuck yourself.

>>129499786
>> I'd rather believe in a reanimated corpse that can fly and teleport, based on hallucinations from illiterate Palestinians 2000 years ago.

I always get hate when I say I wish I were a Christian but I can convince myself to believe, but it's true. I genuinely think I'd be more content if I could believe in a loving god and afterlife etc. I WANT to believe this but every time I try the logical side of my brain starts shouting "bullshit!"

:(

>>129501108
Why not? If everything is an illusion, should anything make sense? Besides who are you to say God isn't real, and tells everyone different things, which would look like different religions.
You argument is silly. Is your point that if God were real, he would only talk to white people?
It is, isn't it? You already know what to do with yourself. Don't waste time.

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>>129481149
>he's not a radical agnostic

>>129481149
People are just scared of their own mortality.
That's pretty much it.

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>>129481149
>tfw the underage fedoras in this thread will share Europe with you.

The future sure does not look good.

>>129482393
Atheism isn't a religion and if you need to belong, then you're weak.

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>>129481149
Because it's almost always associated with social justice causes and anti-traditionalism. People hate it for good reason even though you don't need religion to know right from wrong or what's good for society.

t. conservative atheist who almost invariably sides with Christians but for different reasons

>>129502499
Yeah, sure thing not a religion. Do you know the definition of religion?
"I have all the answers to where the universe came from, here humanity has been, should go and what's best for EVERYone. Who me, no I'm not religious."-Modern atheists, Communists, New Agers, Satanists, Leftists...etc, etc, etc, there seems to be a PATTERN HERE OF SOME SORT.

>>129481149
because athiesm usually means the person is close minded. agnostic is probably the best way to go until you think you faced something spiritual.