REMINDER THAT NATIONAL SOCIALISM IS A L E F T - W I N G IDEOLOGY.

>>129480972
How is it left wing?

>>129481112
statists

>muh shekels

Fuck off neocon

>>129481219
I guess every form of government is left wing then

>>129481219
So are you saying a state is categorically a bad thing?

>>129481112
Nazis use the same anti capitalist tropes that marxists use to rally the "working class"

Even theoretically dividing society based on "classes" is a marxist line of thinking, it's deterministic. It fails to acknowledge the ability of one to move up the economic ladde in capitalism.

>>129480972
Suck off the big business daddy more, maybe he won't export your workplace to China.

Naaah, who am I kidding, brazilian and working, hehe.

>>129480972
Why does literally nobody understand the difference between Marxist socialism and socialism as an egalitarian nationalism. Y'all motherfuckers need Spengler.

>>129481458

>It fails to acknowledge the ability of one to move up the economic ladde in capitalism.

It acknowledges the ability too damn well to buy into "hard working and good ethics will make you a billionaire" wagecucks and TEMs in America use to cuddle themselves to sleep without blowing their brains off.

>>129481458
You are clueless.


National Socialism criticizes Jewish Capitalism indeed, but it does not wish for a classless society. It acknowledges differences, and does not seek to eradicate them. Instead in National Socialism it is "each according to his ability", and the differences in intellect/strength/ability should be bridged via a national community (Volksgemeinschaft). Class mobility was indeed possible and encouraged in National Socialism, because again: Each according to his ability.

>>129481458
Wrong, the NSDAP were against Jewish financiers, not rich people in general or the middle class.

Also there is nothing wrong with rallying the working class. Good luck having any successful political movement without them.

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>>129481331
It is a necessary evil, but an evil non the less.

>>129481620
Government roadblocks like taxation and regulation is what stops le bootstraps and elbow grease from working as effeciently, people have a right to complain, were not living in umbridled capitalism.

Look at it this way, capitalism overall in western societies have raised the standard of living so high, that the "lower clases" need not do anything whatsoever, and they still reap the rewards of a growing powerful economy.

Shaniqua is working at KFC and has an Iphone, when in the past she would have been a farmhand with no property.

Economic progress through capitalism raises everyone on the economic ladder.

>>129480972

Good thread.

Necessary to speak avout this.

>>129481970
>alt-lite
Even in comics you can't separate the socialism from the Judaism.

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>>129481311
Yes.

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>>129481112
>Big nanny-state
>Rights are inherently tied to the government
>Economics on a leash
>Literally following Marx's teachings
And many more reasons. Not to mention, the "SOCIALISM" in the name, and the fact that it spawned out of the fucking WORKERS PARTY are pretty good leads to the true nature of the movement.

>>129481311
Nope. There are right-wing forms of governments, mainly those that base their principles on liberties, rights and moral and religious standards. Which is the opposite of socialism, of any kind.

>>129481576
>Why they don't understand that my socialism is better than the other socialism
They all came from communism and Karl Marx, and they are all based on inherently imoral ideas.

>>129480972
>the political spectrum is 2-dimensional

>>129481331
Yes

>>129482056
Why? Isn't a state merely a means to an end? When a sufficiently large number of people wants to delegate certain tasks to a central organ for simplification/efficiency/comfort, what's so bad about it then?

It only becomes evil when the state stops serving its people. The American understanding of the state is naturally negative, because of the various races and groups living in your country. White Americans want a small government, because they're the ones financing it. Niggers want a large one. This creates tension.

In German National Socialism, the state existed, and gave back to the German people. It specifically excluded foreigners (Jews, gypsies, ...) and even German undesirables (cripples, lunatics, anti-socials, ...).


I'm pretty sure you would have loved the German state if you had been a German back then.

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>being a classcuck
>being a statecuck
>not being an anti democracy, anti kike, anti capitalist, fascist syndicalist

Grow up all of you

>>129480972
>he thinks communism won't work with a homogenous people

It's always the shitskins ruining it for everyone else.

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>>129480972

"My socialism is better than your shitty socialism."


Out the helicopter you go.

>>129482526
Power corrupts, there are no exceptions. Consolidating social authority into the hands of a few will always grant power, and thus corruption.
Thus, any government is naturally prone to corruption. The more powerful the government, the deeper the corruption.
The only way to combat this by explicitly declaring limits on the government, and enforcing the limits by having the parts of the government hold each other in check.

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>>129481112

Marxism and National Socialism are both products of the Romantic school of thought and are thus cancer.

>>129482317
>Big nanny-state
For all those who deserved help. Undesirables were culled.

>Rights are inherently tied to the government
Rights are tied to the power to enforce them. This is true for all systems.

>Economics on a leash
Probably as a reaction to the economic crisis

>Literally following Marx's teachings
National Socialism was explicitly anti-marxist.

>And many more reasons. Not to mention, the "SOCIALISM" in the name, and the fact that it spawned out of the fucking WORKERS PARTY are pretty good leads to the true nature of the movement.
Hitler wrote in his book that the masses are simply needed to win over the Weimar Republic system, which required a democratic vote. He loathed the idea to make politics for the dumb masses; he wanted to uplift them. Not so the Marxist: he wants to enslave them. Marxism is a Jewish ideology, and the end goal is the same as Jewish Capitalism's: Extract the goyim's labour and live like kings among an internationalized, bastardized race of world-humans without heritage and without any fight in them.

>>129482763
Kek. That worked out so well for us. Surely having 1000 idiots all scrambling for power while no one person can be held accountable is the best way to go!

>>129482687
It doesn't matter if communism works or not, it is inherently evil and thus it's not a system that should ever be even tried. And the such applies to all forms of socialism, which were born from it.

>>129481970
Pinochet was pro Jew and evem attrnded Yom Kippur services. He qas more frirndly to Jews then Allende, who was a freemason.

>muh money

Every libertarian I've ever met was the kind of worm who would throw open their borders if it meant a .2% increase in GDP, or who would gladly see orgies being held in the street as long as there was no state.

>because after all, that doesn't impact me, so why should I care?

>>129482865
>are both products of the Romantic school of thought
I don't see that. Elaborate?

>Power corrupts, there are no exceptions.
I'm not convinced.

>>129482526
>you would have liked the German state if you were German
Probably not, lad. The thesis of that state was trust in authority, and that is exactly the opposite of what American culture dictates (classic American culture, nor our subverted one we have currently).
Anything that stands in the way of individual rights of the people is not a good thing.

>>129482942
The hell are you talking about? It was working fine until FDR started curtailing the limits and expanded federal authority. Look where that has left us.

>Brazilian education

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>>129480972

>left wing ideology

found the brainlet boomerfag

I bet you believe the fox news "liberal fascism" meme too, don't you? fucking moron.

>>129483261
Looks like those limits on the government didn't mean shit.

Checkmate

>>129482317
The 'socialism' part is not in terms of economic socialism; rather, a social community (Volksgemeinschaft).

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>>129480972
>>129481112
>National Socialism
>Socialism

>>129483175
america is proof that that the vast majority of people (whites included) simply cannot handle the burden of individual rights. they are easily corrupted and must be held in check.

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>>129482938
>Marxism is a Jewish ideology, and the end goal is the same as Jewish Capitalism's: Extract the goyim's labour and live like kings among an internationalized, bastardized race of world-humans without heritage and without any fight in them.

You make a good distinction; Marxism is about bringing down the top, but National Socialism is about raising up the bottom, and doing so in a meritocratic manner.

>>129482763
>Power corrupts, there are no exceptions
Frederick The Great, Marcus Aurelius, there are more than a few counterexamples, and you merely asserting your opinion as fact is not convincing.

>>129483430
>aha those limits don't mean anything when we stop following them!
Full retard

>>129482967
>inherently evil
the fuck you on about son

>>129483387
That term was coined by a Jew iirc.

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>>129481970
>We're anti degenerate
>Obsessed with brown showers

Also implying Pinochet didn't bring in libertarians to manage his economy

>>129483494
How so? You claim it is a proof, but you don't explain how. The issue you seem to be addressing is the subversion of individual thoughts, and not anything to do with the rights themselves.
Either that or you want some type of authoritarian state. If so, you are a fool to think you will hold any power in such a state, unless you are related to someone involved in the inner workings.

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>>129482763

We tried that once. It didn't work out.

>>129480972
Hitler wrote specifically that Nat Soc had nothing to do with the Jewish bolshevik socialism. Not that any of you fucking retards can even read. Keep praising a guy that was about 1/100 the man and legend Hitler was for white people.

>>129483502
Your examples are of men who held themselves to high standards. That does not apply to a state, as can be seen by the fall of each state those people were in charge of.
A state that is reliant on the honesty of its leader will not last very long. Men die, but the state is suppose to outlast them.

>>129483175
muh constitution and muh freeze peach. Freedom best many hard decisions.

>>129483959
See>>129483261
>>129483580

>>129483919
It's not about rights. It's about the survival of your people, and White Americans are being replaced by hordes of shitskins for the promise of economic growth. Your rights don't matter when niggers burn down your house. You can look at Haiti, Rhodesia, and now South Africa, and even Europe, America and Canada. White homelands are being invaded by shitskins. What matters isn't your individual rights, or even you. You don't matter in the grand scheme of things. What really matters is your tribe, your race, and how well it can preserve itself in the eternal struggle for survival. What matters isn't how many rights you have, but how much you are able to give for your children and your brothers, and whether your sacrifice (in life or in death) can secure their future.

> national socialists are exactly the same as communists

World War 2 would like to have a word with you

>>129484208
>newfags want to be in a state that treats them like whipped sheep
Explains why you shill for Hillary.

>>129483387
Objectively he doesn't understand what left or right means, where the terms come from. Hes regurgitating a several decade old Lolbertard talking point.

Lolberts and other completely unread blowhards will compare NatSoc to Marxist ideology simply because they both use the term "Socialism."
This is like claiming penicillin and lobotomy are the same thing because both are medical treatments. Its a crass and superficial examination that holds no value whatsoever and serves only to betray the abject stupidity of the one presenting the comparison.

In reality Libertarianism is more closely related to Communism in that both are ideologically flawed in their base. Both make 100% objectively wrong assessments about society and governance because they are entirely wrong about human beings.
Communism takes away the primary motivating factor to work.
Libertarianism fails to acknowledge that humans are a social animal which inherently form groups, inherently have group interests. We are inherently collective, not individual.

This is what entry level Lolberts rail against Fashy ideals so hard. There exists an ideology that complements human nature. Where participating in the group dynamic enhances community and responsibility gives purpose. The individual has liberties, but also responsibilities to his brother which fulfills a basic human need.

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>Reminder that /pol/ is a libertarian board

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>Typical fascist neo-nazi, licking the boot of the man

>>129484537
Reminder that free market capitalism is a Jewish invention and you are doing the Jew's dirty work

>>129483016
>He qas more frirndly to Jews then Allende, who was a freemason.
when you know you are a puppet to a master, you might not be so friendly

>>129484358
>it is about survival of your people
The only "people" that are yours are your kin. You are a fool if you think an authority won't start categorizing people just because they are all from "the same people". If you really believe this, you are naive and don't understand the human condition.

The existence of state is for the purpose of defending us against ourselves. Allowing a small group of people to control the entire state leads to exactly what you keep trying to escape from. Why are you so willing to trust those in power? What reason do you have, that isn't ideology driven? Ideologies have been shown to fail time and time again, as well as to provide a great tool for subversion.

Stop trusting others because they say they are on your side. You will never escape the cycle of state oppression so long as you do.

>>129482938
>For all those who deserved help. Undesirables were culled.
any government powerful enough to decide who lives and who dies is 100% leftist

>Rights are tied to the power to enforce them. This is true for all systems.
not in a constitutional republic. we believe all men are endowed with certain inalienable rights by our creator and the government cannot take them away without violating the constitution.

natsoc is leftist. that's basic politics homie.

>>129484256
>>129483261
>>129483580

The Sedition Act of 1798 was in direct violation of the constitution. Since then it's been constant chipping away of freedoms while the eternal boomer keeps talking about muh liberty.

Your freedoms have never existed in the first place

>>129482938
>For all those who deserved help. Undesirables were culled.
>muh socialism was the right one! xDDD

>Rights are tied to the power to enforce them. This is true for all systems.
No. Rights are tied to your human nature. Life, Freedom, Pursue of Happiness. The state, a moral, right wing state, simply acknowledges them and ensures them. It doesn't give you any other rights, and doesn't take them from you. A left-wing, socialist/communist state treats humans as commodities, and thus their rights are tied to the will of those in power.

>Probably as a reaction to the economic crisis
>muh socialism justified!

>National Socialism was explicitly anti-marxist.
>N-no guys, we don't like that really smart individual named Marx
>Proceed to follow his ideals

>Hitler wrote in his book that the masses are simply needed to win over the Weimar Republic system
>We can be socialists to win then we just say we aren't socialists anymore!
The thing that makes socialism such a problem to deal with is that it attacks in many fronts, some as a direct war, as in Marx ideals of the revolution, and other times as a disguised form, infiltrating institutions and calling themselves everything but socialism. It doesn't matter what they say, when their end goal is the same: creating an authoritarian state that take away people's rights and controls the economy and culture. Hitler wasn't an anti-socialist, he was a socialist, and he memed a bunch of people into socialism by telling them that he isn't one, and just redirecting people's attention from capitalism towards Jews. Instead of burning their heritage all-together, he would give them a false one, tied entirely on the government, so people are chained to it - with the same end goal: enslaving the population.
Not to mention, the same German mindset that gave birth to communism is the one that gave power to National Socialism, and is the roots of their socialism today.

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>>129484208
lol because a Hillary supporter shill would write that. Is everyone a shill to the cuck "based black man" maga fags?

>>129484515
>Libertarianism fails to acknowledge that humans are a social animal which inherently form groups, inherently have group interests. We are inherently collective, not individual.
where does libertarianism "fail to acknowledge" this? they only say a community has to be voluntary, and can refuse association from members of another community
or are you seriously so fucked in the head you think social beings = taxes?

>>129480972
THANK YOU BASED WAX
SAGE AND REPORT FAGGOT NAZI LARP THREADS - THEY'RE SHAREBLUE FAGGOT COMMIES

>>129484950
Then why even have governments if they are so easily subverted? Maybe we should just rely on a global government?
>being this retarded
So are you going to insist that all cars are bad because some people are incapable of driving safely?

Any consolidation of power is prone to corruption. Power corrupts, always. Thus, governments are naturally prone to corruption. The only way to deal with this is to explicitly acknowledge it, and work limits into the system to help address the erosion of justice.

There is no form of government immune to this, by the way. So log as humans are a central part of government, it will be prone to corruption. That is a part of the human condition.

>>129480972
Go fuck yourself anarchist nigger.

>>129484743
>get out of my store jew
>nuh uh, this aint a free market, civil rights act bitch!
what the fuck I love forced association now!! fuck capitalism and freedom and shit

>>129480972
>fighting the Jewish corporate control
>bad
Natsoc is neither left or right.
Right and left wings are both Jewish exploitation of the people.
Syndicalism is the way forward

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>https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Stormfront#How_to_troll_Stormfront

>Reminder that /b/ raided Stormfront long before /pol/ even existed, and similar to project chanology, this brought stormfags into our ranks as a sort of blowback response. They have been raiding /pol/ since its creation, and are trying to co-opt this board. Stormfags do not know any of the old memes, and h8 anime.

>http://4chandata.org/q/Stormfront-using-4chan-as-a-base-a213744

>>129484537
how do you spot a libertarian at a party?
they're the ones still outside arguing with someone about their absolute right to park their mom's car on their lawn

>>129483430
liberty is not the norm in human society. it has to be fought for and constitutional republicanism is the strongest deterrent against tyranny to date. however the system has been under attack heavily since the progressive movements of the 20s and 30s and we're getting to the point where article V convention of States is going to be necessary to reclaim our government. gee, it's almost as if our founders were serious about preventing a tyrannical gov.

Muh leftwing muh rightwing
NatSoc is authoritarian center idiots
Also it does not demonize the rich or attempt to create a class struggle

>>129485435
>trying to coopt the board
You give them too much credit. How long have they been trying this? They are farther from the goal now than they were back in the beginning.

>>129485538
>authoritarian
>center
centralized powers are not center.

>>129485657
Can you explain how libertarians are even right wing? They sound pretty lefty to me when they bitch about rights and individualism

>>129485094
Who mentioned taxes, Lolbertard? No one.
A society that idealizes individualism above all else will lead to social decay. A system that facilitates hedonism will produce hedonism. A social hierarchy that allows an individual to divorce himself from the group is a hierarchy that is facing impending collapse.
Human beings cannot be allowed to do thing solely of their own volition, exactly as a child must be kept in line by a parent. Responsibility has to be a driving factor in contributing to society, it cannot be hedonism and profit alone.

>>129485538
You're using too many new words. Lolberts can only respond to things they've seen before with canned responses.

>>129485576
they are a boogeyman. you cant even say nigger and the traggic is less than krautchan

>>129485899
buzzwords and platitudes are not arguments.I mentioned taxes because it is underlying all of your buzzwords and platitudes
a society based on taxes is shit, which is why they all fail.

>>129485886
libertarians would allow a store owner to say
>get out of my store, nigger
while statists of the left and right would start hemming and hawing like little cucks about some sort of 1964 civil rights act

>>129480972
you fags need to get the out of /pol/

>>129485899
You may not have the authority to live your life how you see fit, but we on the other hand do. Enjoy your slavery, I will be over here fapping to degeneracy, smoking pot, and eating hallucinogenic mushrooms, AS IS MY RIGHT.

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>>129486145
Somebody help me distinguish a libertarian from an ANprim please im having trouble

>>129481970
>israel isn't your dream ideal fascist state except it's for jews instead of whites

>>129480972
>shitskin telling anyone to get out

nah cunt, click clack your wifi together and look up how to kill yourself monkey

>>129483094
>Hurr durr just because you believe everyone has rights and, because of it, economy should be free, you have no morals even though your ideology is entirely based on morals and principles

>>129483595
If a system doesn't acknowledges rights that are inherent to you by your human nature, that system is evil. Why is it evil? Because said system has no rights at all - the one's they call rights were given to you by the system, and thus they can be taken away. In a more tangible example, a moral government will never kill people to reduce population, because life in a right of all humans and thus shouldn't be infringed, while an imoral government would do such thing if the situation demanded so, because the right to life in tied to their will.

>>129483994
You say that jews lie and thus you shouldn't believe them, but them this one guy says something, even though all of his actions go against his words, and you say I should believe what he wrote?

>>129484515
>Muh socialism is different from that socialism
the post.
>Libertarianism fails to acknowledge that humans are a social animal which inherently form groups, inherently have group interests. We are inherently collective, not individual.
Wrong. Libertarianism simply understands that people should be able to choose to act with the group or not, because they have a right to freedom. And that simple different is what creates a world of difference between libertarians and socialists, which are all connected by this sense that the government knows best and all should follow because, for some reason, what a few people decided is the will of the entire population.

>>129486340
Do you even have any grasp on the real meanings of left and right? Its individualism vs hierarchy. For example democracy is left wing and monarchy is rightwing. Try thinking a little bigger than the shit examples you can see in our CURRENT YEAR lol

>>129486544
>rights exist

keke

>>129486145
>so brainwashed and married to your poorly formed ideas that you can't see anything but MUH TAXES
Truly you are the prototypical Lolbertard. Ron Paul 2012 join the r evol ution!

All society guides certain behaviors through negative reinforcement. We punish crimes.
NatSoc establishes a system of positive reinforcement for contributing to society. It sets a spiritual motivation for contribution along side profits. Working for the mutual benefit of nation and brotherhood gives meaning, and that is what America lacks. We have a society where driving factors are divorced from a vital side of human nature. Even Commander Rockwell knew this and talked about it in the 60s and 70s. Yet somehow you Lolberts still can only regurgitate shallow rhetoric.

>>129486364
If you want to revel in pointless hedonistic degeneracy you might as well paint yourself black because you're a fucking nigger at your very core.
Life is not a game of occupying time between orgasms. The future of our people matters.

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Take a trip down history lane with me as we unravel how stormfags first learned of 4chan, starting with one of the original raids, back in 2007, that of white supremacist Hal Turner:

> https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Hal_Turner

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>>129481112
No rights. You don't have the Bill of Rights in Nazi and fascist governments.

>>129487484
>rights
>rightwing
Lmao

>>129484743
its not but ok

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>https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t350907/

4chan meets stormfront

> Re: Why? Question from a 7channer.
>You're involved with an organization that is made up of sick criminals. From what I'm hearing about your group in the lounge section, most of you should be sued by Turner, fined by the government, and put in jail for years.

>I'm not answering any of your questions until you can justify your group's actions, especially when they threatened to rape Turner's son. Sick freaks.

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>>129487776
Yeah? What, you think the left-wing who wants to take away free speech, the right to bear arms, free markets, and the right to due process is the side that fights for the rights of the people?

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Stormfags also have a hidden JIDF group of there own called SwarmFront, where they raid and try to subvert forums like ours. Here is a link to their documentation for how to argue and debate, as most of them lack the intelligence to do so themselves.

http://whitegenocideproject.com/new-and-improved-bugs-buddy/

>>129488287
Historically? Yes you fucking idiot

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>>129484537

>>129481331
Obviously. Where the fuck have you been?

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>>129488381
So then why do they want to take away free speech, the right to bear arms, free markets, and the right to due process?

>>129488597
Because "leftwing" and "rightwing" are now both completely meaningless terms. If anything our current politics should be "change everything for no reason" and "pretend to like traditionalism"

PS you can thank the french left wingers for creating an idology to fight monarchism. .even though we can now see where that leads.

>>129484515

good post.

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NATIONAL CAPITALISM IS THE WAY TO GO!

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>>129489013
Anon, right-wing wants to keep things as they are, left-wing wants change, but when you're nation is founded on the idea of rights and liberty, then the side that wants change is the side that is going to be fighting for authoritarianism.

>>129489299
Yes as far as modern american politics go. However some believe that things are too bad to ever fix within the existing system. NatSoc is centralist because it recognizes both the need to change and the importance of preserving tradition , as just one example

>>129484405
dumb argument, commies fight other commies all the time. just look at the chinese commies. they couldn't even get along with members of the same party, and the nazis had the night of the long knives. is it too far fetched to believe they might also have a problem with other commies outside their own party?

please answer someone said /pol/ wasn't christian

https://strawpoll.com/829gffr

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>>129489831
Well, if it preserves the tradition of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, then it's fine with me. Otherwise it can fuck off.

https://youtu.be/xP5MfjW9TuU rt

>>129480972
pinochet was puppet for (((wall street bankers)))

only useful idiots support him

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>>129481458
This is the most jewish post on 4chin at this very moment
>Rothschilds and other fags in the power pyramid up to your boss that do nothing for their entire life and are insanely wealthy only because they are shareholders/owners of companies/banks are good people, this is fair and a good system overall! You are a shill if you disagree! It's a good system that advocated for improvement, if you try really-really-really hard you'll become a Rothschild too!
>>129480972
Dividing every ideology into left and right is a common core tier jewish scam, instead of analysing things you simplify and reduce it

This is THE SAME trick that jews use
>call out jews
WHAT ARE YOU, AN ANTISEMITE? ANTISEMITISM IS BAD, THEREFORE YOU ARE BAD
>call out capitalists
WHAT ARE YOU, A COMMUNIST? COMMUNISTS ARE BAD, THEREFORE YOU ARE BAD
>say that national socialism is good
IT HAS SOCIALISM IN IT'S NAME, YOU ARE LITERALLY LENIN!

This is one of the MOST IMPORTANT redpills, you need to acknowledge that the main enemy is the person who is BOTH a capitalist and a jew, all the jews that ruin your life today happen to be capitalists too, but goy, don't mention that, communists use that funny talk too, you aren't a commie aren't you?

>>129490753
>these two papers written by literal freemasons are the ultimate truths for me and they shouldn't be questioned, because I'm an (((American patriot)))

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>>129491605
>ignoring the papers that made us the most powerful nation in the world

>>129491069
>Your system is imoral and born out of the very thing you say you're against
>OH NO YOU'RE TRICKED BY (((JEWS))) TAKE THE RED PILL
The so called (((jews))) you so much hate are only rich and powerful because of the left-wing governments that help them. There is nothing a rich banker Jew would love more than a authoritarian government to give them the monopoly over the market.

What you have is a fear of responsibility. You want to blame others for your misfortunes, and you want someone bigger than you to take care of your life and guide you. This is the main motivation behind all leftists:
>Capitalism is the evil of the world! We need a strong communist totalitarian government to protect our workers!
>Jews are the evil of the world, they make fortunes with capitalism! We need a strong nationalistic leader who will guide us to greatness!
>Men are the evil of the world! We need strong women in power to guide us to a better civilization!
>White people are the evil of the world! We need a strong black leadership to empower the black people!

>B-but you just say that the govenrment is the evil an-
No. The government can be used for evil, and that's why it must be kept in check, whoever it is essential to a civilized society. That is the difference between wanting a small state - which is, recognizing the threat the government can pose - and wanting anarchism.

>>129491888
>the papers that made us the most powerful nation in the world
Talmud and Torah
Go back to thedonald

>>129481112
it is socially left wing
it uses the same line of thinking derived from critical theory, where instead of the white cisnormative hetero males, the nazis hate jews. it categorises every jew as being in some group with every other jew, and then says that jews have too much money, and treats all jews the same. all jews, dirt poor or filthy rich essentially have "jew privilege", in the same way a homeless white guy has "white privilege" (although the nazis likely did not use the term privilege, they used this logic)

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>>129492604
>dodged every single question
>doesn't know the definition of communism
>strawmans
>bullshit copypasta that's completely unrelated to anything
Answer every single one of my statements, except this time for real, also thanks to your new nonsense you'll have three additional points to refute
1. The governments are puppets, they do nothing whatsoever, the real owners of the country are capitalists and bankers, they just want you to believe that the puppets are who really are in power and that voting matters, not only all the candidates must be appointed by the capitalists but the winner is decided by the capitalists too and if that person does something that capitalists don't want him to do then he'll wake up with a bullet in his head
2. There is not a single difference between a left wing government and a right wing one as long as the country is capitalist, you even saw this with Trump, he's not different from Obama in any way imaginable, in fact the government didn't change at all, that's what the first point I made was for, what happens at the "government" level is just the reality show, in the higher ups nothing happened that's why nothing changed, the owners of this world can't be elected
3. Libertarianism and Anarchy is flawed in it's core because a smaller government/no government eventually becomes a big government, there's nothing you can do about it. Make the US an anarchy tomorrow and burn everyone who had any power, you'll have a bunch of people to group up and start a revolution, it'll take a week for a new government to emerge.

tl;dr: read a book

>>129493059
This is actually true
But the thing is that the worker jews were indeed scary because they were most likely highly supportive of the jews that had power, I'm not saying that every single jew was a threat to the nazis but they had no way to know which ones were, that's why NS Germany policy was what it was like, you can't read someones mind or sense evil.

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>>129492670
Okay Muhammed, that's enough internet for today.

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>It's OK to be cucked if the bull is white!!

Fuck all forms of socialism.

>>129481576
>egaylitarian
Don't ruin your own ideology. Don't do the enemy's job.

>>129495301
>Muhammed
Burger as always shows complete lack of knowledge in all fields, even geography

>>129482538
>syndicalist
heh

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Hitler was pro-capitalism. He was only anti the "every man for himself" idea that for some reason people commonly attach to capitalism.

>>129484743
Adam Smith was a goy, you supreme retard.

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>>129497953
>Hitler
>pro-capitalism
The libshits//leftyfaggots/ call the form of economy inherent in a true-socialist (or for example the NSDAP's) environment ""market socialism"".
Never ever concede and give in to the lie that national socialism is capitalistic.
It IS however pro-property and pro-liberty in terms of internal trade.

True socialism has trade, fake socialism has forced 'equality' (that ends up turning into a large scale reproduction of a feudal domain)

>>129491605
Name one thing bad about them.

>>129493980
i didn't know that, source?
not saying you're lying, i'm genuinely interested.

>>129481112
>>129480972
its neither you fucking idiots

>>129498290
I'll name 200
Everything about (((democracy)))
Everything about (((equality)))
The entire 8th section

>>129496124
80% of ancaps on this board can only adhere to their retarded philosophy if they change it so it's literally authoritarian fascism. You'll be a natsoc in a few months.

>>129498848
A source isn't needed
This is speculation that is based on common sense, the only other way I see it is that NS considered jews to be evil on a genetic level, or that they were shills.

>>129482526
>Isn't a state merely a means to an end?
Oh boy, here we go again lads...

>>129496124
Statism is good if the leader is both redpilled and altruistic, I see nothing wrong with totalitarian governments if the dictator is a noble man with good intentions.

>>129486991
This guy knows what's up.

>>129499245
>they were shills
The Nazis that is, there's a theory about that

>>129488597
If you don't want to remove the ability of the general public to publish and propagate subversive material, obtain weapons, and judicial "fairness" you are a cuckold to liberal principles. There are people that need to be ground into the dirt and the things you worship inhibit that.

>>129496124
You do know that anarcho-capitalism is just as much a pipe dream as communism is right? They are both equally flawed.

>>129499965
The fuck do you think America was pre-New Deal? Socialism didn't exist in USA until 1935.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Social_Security_in_the_United_States

>>129499639
The road to hell is paved with good intentions senpai. Thats what the commies also claim they have,-Good intentions-. Theres no such thing as a noble dictator with good intentions. And even if there was one,he would end up assassinated or overthrown.

>>129499245
>>129499703
The Germans as far as I know went on a case to case basis disregarding ethnicity (though I assure you there was a similar amount of abuse between officers and otherwise towards suspects occasionally as you'd see from Americans) [Brits, Japs, and Soviets were straight up brutal though]

A lot of the Jewish arrests you see during WW2 have a backstory to them that helps clarify why they went after that individual. And it is never because that individual is Jewish.

>>129500444
You do understand that anarcho-capitalism has no state at all, what you are talking about is perhaps libertarianism but this is not what i was talking about.

>>129500474
>Theres no such thing as a noble dictator with good intentions
Hitler, Gadaffi
>And even if there was one,he would end up assassinated or overthrown
Called it

>>129500504
>A lot of the Jewish arrests you see during WW2 have a backstory to them that helps clarify why they went after that individual. And it is never because that individual is Jewish.
Sauce?

>>129480972
NatSoc is actually Autoritarian-Centrist faggot

>>129502302
>torturing your own people for having different opinions
>good intentions
The same way a commie could claim stalin was a good dictator with good intentions. Youre no different than them

>>129502604
Come on now, who did Hitler persecute, there's literally nothing wrong there, yea okay maybe some communists were imprisoned but communism itself is anathema to the idea of a nation state.

>>129503538
>Come on now, who did Stalin persecute, there's literally nothing wrong there, yea okay maybe some fascists were imprisoned but fascism itself is anathema to the idea of a worker's state.
No difference