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My buddy here thinks that stoping the production of regular ammunition

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My buddy here thinks that stoping the production of regular ammunition and outlawing it, and instead giving people pepper spray bullets would help lower the gun crime problem while not infringing on Americans second amendment rights and providing self defense.

Good idea or bad idea?
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>>129413486
Nigger making shells isn't fucking hard
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Your (((friend))), right?
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>>129413625
If you made it illegal to buy shells, gunpowder and other materials needed to reload shells?
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It's not difficult to make bullets
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>>129413486
Just tell him he is a idiot
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>>129413486

your friend is a faggot, someone high hell even drunk will barely be effected by pepper spray, rubber bullets have be proven by law enforcement to not be effective
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>>129413486

Protecting oneself against pepper spray rounds is a lot easier than protecting oneself against actual bullets. Pepper spray rounds are ineffective for defense.
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>>129413859
Banning the basic materials is impossible, people would just resort to steel casings. Banning gunpowder would just result in bubba learning more about explosives than a sand monkey
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>>129413486
>outlawing lethal ammunition
>not infringing
The arms are for killing soldiers, dummy.
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>>129413486
Non-solution in search of a problem. I was pepper-sprayed while in the military (in order to carry it, you have to be sprayed, to prevent you from being cavalier). I got news for your friend who is fighting an impossible battle against phronesis. Pepper spray doesn't work on everyone. Bullets do.
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>>129413486
You understand that I can create about 700 rounds of 7.62 a night just pissing around right?
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>>129413486

Really makes me think...

Lets ban the internet, paper and pen to crack down on hatespeech without violating the first amendment, right? haha
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>>129414594

>He doesnt have a basement stuffed with expensive Dillon autoloaders
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>>129414515

This.

I went through the same thing for Law Enforcement. Pepper spray doesn't work on 30-40% of the population.
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>>129413486
>criminals with knives know they wont get killed
>commit more crimes
>stab people because non lethal bullets
>steak knives get banned

pretty fuking retarded, tell your friend hes a faggot buttboi cuck
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>>129414515
this a good answer
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>>129413859
You don't even need gun powder you just need an explosive that's just good enough to be a substitute. Everything for a gun can be made by hand if people really want to and there's nothing that can be done about it without making so many things illegal it would destroy entire industries.
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>>129413859
I can walk out into my woods and find materials to make gunpowder.
Melt wheel weights to make bullets
You can improvise percussion caps with nitro and sawdust packed in pen heads.
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2nd amendment is meant for citizens to kill the government, not each other. Self defense is just a nice extra to the 2nd amendment.
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>>129413486
a blue pill gun, atrocious
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>>129415219

Go ahead and make smokeless powder at home boy
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>>129413486
What could work is a type of ammunition that regardless how many times you're hit renders you unconscious immediately and for at least one hour.

I see a lot of people complain about OP's idea but no one has a better one, except just kill.
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Just make a laser gun and blind your adversaries desu
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>only criminals have real bullets

Great plan. Please run for office.
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>>129413486
1. SHALL

2. pepper spray's effectiveness is extremely varying from person to person, depending on genetics and even how much spicy food someone eats on a regular basis

niggers intentionally put themselves sheds with military grade pepper spray to build up an immunity to it

3. how much does this shit cost?

4. reloading exists as a common hobby among gun enthusiasts and outlawing the materials and ammunition is about as effective as declaring magazines over a certain capacity illegal, punishing people who did nothing wrong and doing nothing to stop actual criminals

criminals aren't going to stop using lethal rounds just because the law says so while law abiding citizens are

6. what about anyone that use standard ammunition for literally anything other than defense?

7. how about instead of trying to neuter a law abiding citizen's ability to fight off criminals, you just acknowledge that being met with lethal force is the price to pay for trying to assault someone, break into their home, rob them, etc
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>>129415332
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smokeless_powder
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>>129413486
hmm, why not just ban niggers and spics, and all shitskins?
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>>129415332
As we argue abut how many gold bricks make up Utopia, the Mexicans still send narcotics across the border in semi-trucks that are bribed through customs without an inspection, and you're telling me I can't buy anything I have the money for?
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>>129413486
your buddy will offer to blow you in the next 3 months.
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>>129415332
Okay.
>Step 1: LEGALLY purchase ammonia from gardening store.
>Step 2: Build corrosion resistant containment vessel and heat the ammonia in presences of oxygen to make nitric acid
>Step 3: Go to junkyard and salvage sulfuric acid from old battery as a catalyst. Drain cleaner is also a good source.
>Step 4: Go to nearest nigger and have him pick some cotton for you
>Step 5: mix nitric acid, sulfuric acid, and cotton under ice.
Smokeless gunpowder ladies and gentlemen. Replace the cotton with glycerin (commonly sold as moisturizer) and you can make nitroglycerin.
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>>129413859
>Make it illegal to own lead, brass, aluminium, or steel
Brilliant plan
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>>129413486
As we see in Europe, banning guns doesn't raise the threshold of human anger, instead it dramatically lowers the cost of immobilizing a city.
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>>129415767

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reaction

really made me think

>>129416020

I never said that.

I just noted that it is not easy to produce smokeless powder by yourself.

Blackpowder is way easier but has limited use of course.
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>>129413966
>>129413966
>>129413966

Checked cause it's true
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>>129415513
Damn it. Now I want one.
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>>129413486
Your friend is a fucking kike
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>>129416115

You do realize that the grain size must be precise for different calibers right? You need machinery for that.
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>>129415750
>pepper spray's effectiveness is extremely varying from person to person, depending on genetics and even how much spicy food someone eats on a regular basis
niggers intentionally put themselves sheds with military grade pepper spray to build up an immunity to it
This so much, I got pepper sprayed at a free speech rally once, my friend went down and flopped on the ground like a fish but for me it stung yeah but it wasn't debilitating and it certainly wouldn't have stopped me, come to think of it getting hit in the face by hot smoke form loading a wood stove as a child hurt worse.
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>>129415423
>renders you unconscious immediately and for at least one hour.
Great idea, take everyone's guns and give them access to military grade projectile horse tranquilizer instead.
Somehow the sadistic temptations of this is better than shoot to kill.
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>>129416301
>spread out the beam and be able to blind entire crowds at a time
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>>129416415
>you need machinery for that
The guy just told you how to make explosives and you're bitching about literally the easiest safest part? Tell your Isis handler you're useless ahmed
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You're not going to ever remove or alter the 2nd amendment, you dumb faggots should just give up on that.

We conceded faggot marriage to you dumb shits, concede the 2nd amendment fight.
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>>129416415
This fuckin goy
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>>129416260
>limited use
What? It's gunpowder. Sure, you'll have to live with a lower muzzle velocity, cleaning your gun more often, and dealing with a lot more smoke upon discharge. But it sure as shit will get the job done. It changes nothing.
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>>129413486
so basically you are a retarded faggot
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>>129416505
Nah. just wave it around. problem with that is they'll still be alive to sue you afterwards. remember,they're all dindus.
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just shoot first ask questions later
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>>129416793
And they'll identify the suspect... how?
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>>129413486
>shoot fucking pepper balls at nigger high on pcp
>just pisses him off more and he rips you in half before cutting his face off and raping your corpse
your friend is a retard
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>>129416638

Have fun using blackpowder in a semiautomatic weapon.

It wont only just clogg it up but the cycling will be unreliable.

>>129416578

I know how to make explosives.
If you want to wage a war on government that outlawed gunpowder like in the scenario we are talking you need good shit or your precision will be gone and with it your combat efficiency.
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>>129416578
>Tfw you might have a hand in the next German Happening by teaching Ahmed how to make explosives
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>>129416415
Machinery? Well fuck, nevermind then.
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>>129416625
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>>129413486
Whilst I think trying to outlaw anything is ridiculous, I do think the emphasis of future gun manufacture and innovation should be on non lethal self defense.

Most people who want guns to defend themselves don't want the death on their conscience to go with it.
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you pepper spray a 300 lb man and he's still gonna get your ass desu
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>>129414329
This. The 2nd Amendment isn't about self-defense against criminals or about hunting. It is about citizens defending Liberty from a tyrannical government.
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>>129416260
Anyone that has a respectable knowledge of chemistry can produce all the components required for smokeless powder by shopping at Walmart.
America has a thug culture problem not a gun problem and since it's been deemed racist to criticize it it will never go away.
Castrating our-self's and surrendering to it won't make it better, your people should know.
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>>129413486
Your buddy is a fucking idiot.
And so are you.
How do you plan to stop a tank with pepper spray?
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Is there any way that using tannerite for self defense could hold up in court?
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>>129416938

>calls other peoples Ahmed
>Merimutt
>jew central
>54% white
>HQ of blacked

Lmao, audacious
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>>129413859
You want to ban metal and gun powder which you can make at home?
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>>129413486
the point of the 2nd is to be able to fight the government. we need bullets to do that.
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>>129416488
Right. Not sure about horse tranquilizers but that's your idea.
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>>129417158

>assuming I am anti gun because I pointed out that not every fucktard can make nitrocellulose at home like rednecks in this threat like to pretend
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>>129413486

How many pepper spray bullets would I have to shoot to kill you? Otherwise whats the point.

I hate stupid Americans more than any other kind of stupid person. You're second amendment is just to have guns to protect yourself from home invaders etc, its to present an ever present threat to the government. Your country isn't even supposed to have a standing military. Losing the 2nd would be the death of everything America is supposed to be for.

InB4 "But muh military can kill any american civilian with a hunting rifle"

Afghanistan.
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>>129413486
The Second Amendment doesn't say "guns" it says "arms". Ammunition is arms. Ammunition is protected by the Second Amendment every bit as much as guns are.

The second highest court in the land (the DC Circuit) already ruled on this:

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/dc-court-of-appeals/1543809.html
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>>129415423
Do canadians think reality is like a cartoon?
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>>129416020
this

Hit the nail on the head
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>>129417171
Not sure who's more retarded here.

How are you supposed to stop a tank with a gun?
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>>129415332
>lecturing americans about guns

post your gun mohammed
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>pepper spray bullets

That'll just piss off the aggressor with a gun/knife/dildo even more.
Ever seen a guy pumped with adrenaline and perhaps some hard drugs fence off some beefy police officers or guards?
As an added bonus, people that are allergic to capsaicin die anyway, unless an ambulance gets there under five minutes and/or the antidote/temporary epipen is administered.

Plus i'd imagine those pellets are just like some mints, they just slightly irritate your eyes effectively not doing jack-shit.

Gun's a tool, don't be one yourself
Use when someone else is threatening your life, your family members and the life of others.
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>>129417249
>>129417450
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>>129413486

Your friend is a fucking idiot. You shoot somebody with a paintball full of pepper spray, chances are all you're gonna do is piss them off and they will still turn around and kill you anyhow.
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>>129413486
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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>>129417450
Rednecks are lot more resourceful than you think, normies from the city know how to do there jobs and literally nothing else.
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>>129416933
>I know how to make explosives
>>129416938
You did this
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>>129416415
You have a kitchen scale? Good enough my grandpa reloaded bulleted using and old fashion scale.
Weight on one side to scale the other.
Fucker did it while smoking too.
>germ cuck understanding guns. Haha
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>>129417450
Individuals wouldn't have to. People who could would make a black market and sell to everyone else.
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>>129413486
>that convoluted and pointless solution to a nonexistent problem

Your buddy might be retarded, OP
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>>129417635
Sluts vs modestly dressed women.
Islam 1
Paganism 0
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>>129413486
That's a great idea. Just be sure to amend the Constitution first.
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>>129416415

Machinery. Ok....It's called a piece of window screen. You moisten the powder, press it through the screen to pelletize it into uniform granules. Different grain size can be made according to how small the holes in the screen are. It's not rocket science,
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>>129417532
Obviously your founders meant arms as in you have two of them?
>The right to bare arms shall not be infringed.
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>>129416415
Or you could use a Colander.
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>>129417450
>Be me
>Science fag who knows his shit
>Gunpowder is outlawed, leading to massive demand across the US
>Use my knowledge to start building gunpowder en masse for shekels, because I am paid shit.
>Competitors arise
>I become Al Capone
>I pay my fucking taxes to stay out of prison
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>>129417599
Thepoint is OP is the same person making the argument in other posts that you cant stop a tank with a gun. So by all means let's move to something even less of a deterrant.
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>>129417599
Molotov cocktail like the Russian. Or you know Ieds like the towel heads..
How to stop a tank he said.
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>>129413486
>nog high on crack thinks your pepper spray is spicy sauce for fried chicken and eats off your face
Non lethal weapons are always a second choice when life is at stake.
No cop besides cUKs has spray but not a gun.
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>>129418336
Go home Canada you're drunk and being a wise ass...
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I think it would be cool to see gunsmithing become a thing again. A friend of my father casts old 8x50mmr rounds for me since you can't really find them any more. I bring in the casings and he forges 10 of them for $20. Pretty cool guy, he has a ton of old 19th century European rifles in his basement.
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>>129418336

I'm sure they meant the right to arm bears.
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>>129413486
>stopping me from making the approximately 2.3 million reloads I can manage just with my shit

>stopping the reloaders of the country

>stopping people who know how to make their own black powder

i know this is a >2 post by this ID bait and OP won't be back, but there is no way to practically disarm the citizens of the USA
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>>129413486
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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>>129418812
Bears are already armed but yeah.
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>>129418589

Well in Ireland we don't have armed police but they tend to just batter scumbags with their fists/batons. Plus 99% of criminals in Ireland don't use firearms either. So it balances out.

Poor UK though and the sorry state of their social worker police force.
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>>129417836
>>129418393
>>129418445

I am aware, I hate city cucks.

My point was that making quality nitrocellulose powder is not as easy as people think. Black powder is much easier.

Besides that it will never happen.

We got 6 Million legal guns in Germany of whose I hold 21 and up to 20 Million illegal ones.
Gun control never worked everybody knows it.
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>>129413486
Fuck you, I have the right to kill niggers who nig on me or my family.
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>>129418949
Most gay clubs and bath houses prohibit weapons though.
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>>129417599
Perhaps not a tank anymore, but there are rifles that can take down vehicles.
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>>129418471
I'm a duel citizen ass hole and I love guns more then God.
Fucking heathen.
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fully retarded how are you supposed to hunt with that. you and your friend sound high
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>>129419277

do those duel citizens obey marshal law?
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>>129419043
If we have black powder, then making nitrocellulose gets even easier.
>1. Get black powder from fireworks or gardening shop
>2. Put in a plastic bottle and have a plastic tube connecting bottle to a tub of water.
>3. Add sulfuric acid and seal the bottle shut
>4. Gas is produced, and it turns all water inside the tub to nitric acid
>5. Mix nitric acid with sulfuric acid and cotton under ice.
>6. Nitrocellulose is made
See that? Easy.
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>>129418471
>kraut doesn't have an hk or sig
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>>129419737

>black powder from fireworks

You realize that this is not pure and mixed with cement?

Also what makes you think that if a government would ban gunpowder it would allow you to buy black powder at gardening shops?
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>>129419829

>move goal posts
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>>129419922
>mixed with cement
why is that?
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>>129416260
In fairness you are right and my comment was really for OP.
Didn't respond earlier because I was checking out the Firing Line uploads by the Hoover Institution.
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>>129419639
>>129419043

even if you banned all the guns and ammo in the united states and tried to confiscate everything, there would still be enough guns and ammunition stashed way for another 100 years. (think in the hundreds of millions)
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>>129417599
Armor-piercing rounds you dumb shit
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>>129413486
I'm pretty sure a half-blinded but still enraged nig-nog will still butt fuck your buddy. Put that idea to him, and tell him the wonders of hollow point rounds.
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>>129416852
camera on phones.
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>>129413486
Gay, dude with goggles could still fuck you up
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>>129420024

So it burns slower?

The black powder in fireworks is NOT usable for guns. Its mixed with a lot of shit, its low pressure.
You can try it out if you dont believe me.

>>129420066

I know, I lived in the US for a couple of years

>>129420054

I forgive you
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>>129420364
I was just curious
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>>129413486
So you're saying we should tell people who commit crimes that they still can, only they have to use less lethal means? I mean, your aim was to reduce crime, so this pertains specifically to criminals.
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>>129420462

Didnt look at your flag, i thought you were American.

You probably have never seen blackpowder for guns, it looks completely different than the pelleted grey-black stuff you find in fireworks.
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>Guise, guise, I've got it, we'll outlaw chemistry
Bleeding retards
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>>129419922
Blackpowder is KNO3 (Saltpeter/potassium nitrate). Commonly used in curing meats such as bacon and used as fertilizer (Fertilizer ALWAYS has nitrogen in it. So long as we have fertilizer, we have explosives.). Government bans nitrates, then it bans ALL fertilizer on the market, which would piss off some of the Jews in the market of fertilizer. If the government bans all fertilizer, we make it ourselves via tha Haber Bosch process I described in my earlier post (German process BTW, Haber is a hero of mine)

Also, if the black powder is impure with cement, so what? Mix acid with Cement (CaCO3/Calcium carbonate) and you get carbon dioxide. Run that into water you get carbonated water, which does nothing to our overall reaction.
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>>129420628
That's not entirely true, this is the only gun I own. Fireworks on the other hand are something I've never seen before.
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>>129416115
You can just buy gallons of nitric, use that shit all the time at work.
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>>129413486
If I put on something like a gasmask, or any type of face shielding gear, I could stab you to death while you shot useless pellets at me.

And in this scenario it would be way more likely a criminal would wear something like a gas mask, because he would know your pepper gun would be powerless to stop him.
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>>129420910
They put you on a list of you do that. My process for gunpowder is built from common supplies to make it damn near impossible for the government to trace.
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>>129420737

Ah, cool. Is it antique? Looks like it.

When you buy firecrackers on the next occasion make sure to cut one open and compare the powders.

>>129420731

Governments usually mix something into it on purpose be it fertilize or fireworks which makes it very hard to make explosives out of it.
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>>129413486
Still an infringement you child. Fuck off.
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>>129413486
your buddy is dumb and you should stop entertaining his dumb ideas
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>>129421148
Well, what do they add? I am quite sure I could work around it if you told me what's in it.
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>>129421148
>When you buy firecrackers

Yeah about that...not legal.
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>>129414780
You can jump into reloading for under $300
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>>129421148
I saw this on Amazon, 99+% Pure Commercial Grade Prilled Fertilizer. Would that work?
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>>129413486
so uh guys how much does your typical handgun go for?

I have around [spoiler]90$[/spoiler] to splurge on ,already own a short-sword but living in california where it's illegal to open carry ANY weapon at all
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>>129421314

You cant buy firecrackers? And I thought Germany was cucked

>>129421309
Zinc, Copper, Natrium, Kalium, boric acid, lead nitrate, hexachlorobenzene, cement and other shit.
Those ingredients would also make the barrel rust even worse
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>>129413486
Good thing I reload
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>>129413859
Then only criminals would have them, and instead of meth labs you'd have makeshift ammo production factories everywhere.
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>>129421842
Our country is entirely flammable
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>>129422073
I wonder which of those would be more explosive
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>>129413859

I can make primer compounds with match heads

I can make gunpowder with stump remover and charcoal. 10KNO3+8C+3S

I can melt fishing weights for bullets

I can form copper pipe tubing into cartridge cases....


Literally incapable of stopping me, niggers
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>>129417599
>this nigga doesn't know about how there are many wealthy libertarians with .50 caliber rifles and armor piercing incendiary high explosive rounds
>thinks there wouldn't be a division in military personal when there is a civil war
>thinking all military and contractors are mindless husks who would bow down to government officials if ordered to turn their arms on citizens
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>>129421429

I know man

>tfw I got a lee single stage press and powder tower, scale, dice and shit for 150ā‚¬

>>129421608

For what exactly? Ask >>129421309
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>>129422106
And yet you keep letting the Abbos drink petrol
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>>129413770
why are burgers so fucking stupid

>inb4 "a fucking leaf"

>>129413486
nah, you'll just get a bunch of people making bullets
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>>129422131
I have 14 lbs of gunpowder in my reloading cabinet along with about 10,000 primers. My house it a fucking bomb waiting to happen
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>>129422232
They live in the parts that are already burned down
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>>129419043
Here we just buy kegs of powder, dry-store them until the day comes.
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>>129422337

Didnt aboniggers burn down a lot of forest on your little big island making it so uninhabitable as it is?
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>>129422492
Yup. Typical lazy niggers just lit fires to flush out game instead of hunting.
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>>129422722

I really wonder why you have so few liberties, your country is so big and your population so small that libertarianism would work (with antisemitism and race realism of course)
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>>129422177
Second. There are literally millions of us who have seen the whittling away of our rights and have planed accordingly.
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>>129413486
>tfw the person you shoot is wearing goggles
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>>129413486
You should be hanged for associating with such a faggot. Kys
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>>129413859
old school gunpowder can be made with charcoal, sulfur and saltpeter. Let's look at that first one.

Charcoal is made by heating wood until it nears combustion, shrinking it, turning it black and brittle and drying it completely. You're not going to win over the environmentalists by banning trees.
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>>129413859
Welcome to tyranny invasion 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wW5KR1pDxs
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>>129421842
I'm this guy:>>129421309, and I switched to my laptop.
>We can purify KNO3 by getting a cup of hot water, dissolving the KNO3, and then cooling the water to recrystallize it. Different things recrystallize at different rates, so there goes the Zinc, Copper, and Natrium/Sodium.
>Boric acid doesn't react with Sulfuric acid directly. It only reacts in the presence of alcohols.
>Lead nitrate and sulfuric acid also creates nitric acid, so I don't care about losing that
>Hexachlorobenzene is not soluble in water, so we can just purify that shit out in the first step when we dissolve in water
>Cement and sulfuric acid creates carbon dioxide. Run through water, and we get carbonated water. Does nothing to affect our overall reaction.
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>>129413486
Did you know its legal to make your own firearms for your own use here?

If you want a pepperspray gun go for it. If you're coldfeet about any potential threat having more killing potential than your paintball gun then you probably see why your idea is retarded - but of course you literally are retarded else you wouldn't have started an anti-second-ammendment thread on /pol/, as if anyone here should believe any of these threads aren't repetitive slide filler posted 7 times a week every week every month every year.

we need guns cause they're the only way you'll figure to kill yourself.
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>>129423164
Sulfur and Saltpeter are easier to outlaw though
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>>129413486
Your friend is a faggot.
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>>129419639
No but it feels good knowing I have guns in two country's.... All illegal.
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>>129423236
The reason why it's legal is because it's actually kind of hard to stop anyone from building a gun in the first place.
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>>129421721
I got a. 38 and a hi power 9c the snub for around 100$ the hi point for around 120$
Yes they where stolen and yes I buy guns off of drug dealers and crack heads.
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>>129413486
>>129413486
>liberal logic
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>>129423274
> Outlawing elements and naturally formed ionic compounds.
We literally piss out nitrates.
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>valid point but fucking useless...criminals will always get their hands on the best guns.
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>>129413486
>will it infringe on the right to bear arms if we ban guns and give everyone shitty paint ball guns filled with bullshit?

Gee I wonder Op. Please get new friends
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>>129416415
>machinery
>a strainer
weeew
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>>129413486
You're infringing on the 2nd by banning ammo therefore making the weapons useless. Essentially disarming the population.
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>>129413859
>>129413486
how young are you?
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>>129417599
Terrorize the tank operators and their families when they aren't in the tank.

Or just build an EFP, it's not that hard.
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>>129417017
>Letting a 300 lb man get within arm's reach

Just speed walk away and he'll never catch you
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>>129413486
You can't defend yourself from the military with airsoft guns and pepper spray
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Hey /pol/ ... I don't usually post here, as I'm an /int/ dweller, but I would like some advice from you faggots.

I know you guys give it to people straight, without any sugarcoating, so I need your help. My home country of Serbia is by far the best country in the world. There is no competition. Problem is that right now, Serbia is a failed state and a poverty ridden country. I need you to tell me what I can do to improve my country. Thanks /pol/

>>>/int/75915251
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Outlawing bullets would be just as unconstitutional as outlawing guns.
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>>129423274
>Sulfur and Saltpeter are easier to outlaw though

and some of us have already stockpiled it. Back to charcoal, easiest method is to just heat it in the absence of oxygen - big airtight metal box will do.
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>>129413486
I've seen doped up Basketball-Americans get shot with .380 and not go down after the first one, why do you think pepper spray is going to?
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>>129416793
>blind with lazor
>stab with government approved Safety Sporkā„¢
>????????
>profit
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>>129413486

There might have been a chance for a gun-free America if we hadn't gone more than 200 years with a constitutional right to own them. You can't just make all the guns disappear. They're out there. At best, you can make all the good people willingly give them up, and then... guess who still has guns?
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>>129413625
why even do that when Jamal in the nearby apartment has unregistered guns and ammo?
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>>129429684
>inb4 "but Australia"

We're also a massive country with two huge unprotected borders. It's just not feasible.
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>>129416415
No you fucking german, grain size is only slightly important for different calibers. Mainly between shotgun and rifle/pistol powders. You can accomplish a consistent grain size using a few sieves. And you can measure the grain weight for the bullets using cheap drug dealer weight scales, and no one is going to outlaw those because that would oppress the minorities.
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