elites culling the herd

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>>129323528
Good. Only the billionaire globalist elites deserve to live.

t. trump voter

>live longer
>eventually get cancer

Yeah no shit

>>129323672
no it's the chemtrails

>>129323528
>2000s 1 in 2
You're a retard and your stats are bullshit

>>129323695

Chemtrails makes us live longer? Cool!

>>129323528
>Learn how to make a graph
>Look at my graph

DO YOU BELIEVE ME NOW

>>129323672
lifespan in US remained constant while cancer rates increase to 80% of the population.


>rising cancer rates in young adults, teenagers and even children

http://chelorg.com/2017/03/01/doctors-revealed-the-cancer-epidemic-among-american-youth/

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/cancer-epidemic-is-underestimated-34530909.html

http://health.thewest.com.au/news/1406/youth-in-skin-cancer-epidemic

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/colorectal-cancer-rates-soar-younger-people-n726701

>>129323975
wrong.
cancer cases expected to soar to 70% of the population the a few years

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ireland-warned-of-cancer-epidemic-35763209.html

http://drsircus.com/general/cancer-epidemic-getting-worse/

>incidence of cancer at 1 in 2
http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2015/02/04/why-are-cancer-rates-increasing/

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/03/worldwide-cancer-cases-soar-next-20-years

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2003/pr27/en/

>More Younger Women Getting Breast Cancer

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/05/21/breast-cancer-young-women.aspx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lINa5jGEQ5w

>>129324287
No shekels today
>https://theguardian com/society/2014/feb/03/worldwide-cancer-cases-soar-next-20-years
https://archive.is/0rIVt
>https://youtube com/watch?v=lINa5jGEQ5w
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=lINa5jGEQ5w

>>129324287

>sources are blogs and mainstream media

well gee golly, you sir must be onto something.

fuck off yid

>>129323528
> the conventional infections are mostly dealt with
> people live longer as a result
> longer lives mean deceases for which old age is the primary risk factor take off, such as cancer and heart attacks
HIV is the only tinfoil-worthy decease, and given it mostly kills slavs, niggers and gays, poltards should praise it.

>>129324403
>cancerresearchuk
>blog

it is 1 in 2 people. meaning 50% of the population
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/risk/lifetime-risk

by ~2025 it is 80% of the population

>>129323666
Yes satan

>>129324550
Good clean the trash, israel

>>129324550

>1 slightly credible source

I say slightly because their funding is directly effected by rates of cancer rising or falling.

ok next.

The older you get the higher chance of getting cancer. You are only seeing high cancer rates because we have a lot of people living to their 80s now.

>>129324771
>t. Chairman of Ministry of Propaganda and Disinformation

>>129324810
about 40% of cancer cases are below age 60

see >>129324287

>>129324990
Nice to meet you
>t. chairman of gullibility

I remember hearing somewhere there 1 in 4 people experience clinical depression in their lifr. That's supposed to rise to 1 in 2 by 2050

>>129324232
the cancer epidemic is intentionally ignored as it culls the population as was historically intended


In 1971, when President Richard M. Nixon initiated the War on Cancer, the average person had a 1 in 10 risk of developing cancer in his or her lifetime. Today, that's changed – for the worse. The risk as of 2005 is 1 in 2.

this is the major cause of rapid decline in western populations


cancer is now as common as the flu, that is intentional. the existing cures for cancer are intentionally suppressed.

the great culling/poisoning orchestrated by CIA, CFR, etc has led to dramatic population declines. the genocide machine is being refueled by new immigrants to pack into the poison chambers


'1 in 2 people will develop cancer in their lifetime'
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/288916.php

>>129324990
Cancer cases is unimportant. Cancer deaths is. Your chance of dying from cancer chance goes up significantly as you get old. (some cancers have very high survival rates)
Also, it doesn't matter if there was a period where life expectancy didn't go up, the population is consistently aging, so cancer deaths should rise consistently

>>129325230
>http://www.medicalnewstoday.com


posting shit from another blog.

do you know what a blog is? just because it has article in the url or it's called medical news doesn't mean it's a legitimate source.

>>129325361

Cancer 'is purely man-made' say scientists after finding almost no trace of disease in Egyptian mummies

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1320507/Cancer-purely-man-say-scientists-finding-trace-disease-Egyptian-mummies.html

>>129325404
these are also some resources providing more details:

https://books.google.ie/books?isbn=0976057816

https://www.amazon.com/Lost-War-Cancer-Alternative-Therapies-ebook/dp/B00N1YPUR0
http://www.ncri.ie/sites/ncri/files/pubs/Cancer%20projections%20for%20Ireland%202015%20-%202040.pdf

>>129323528
>Technology for detecting cancer more reliably and at earlier stages is developed.

>More cancer is detected

Wew mate. Really sent us round the bend on that one.

>>129323528
It's because people aren't dying from from stupid reasons anymore (Accidents, murders, AIDS, diarrhea, starvation, malnutrition, etc).

>>129325361
>Lets skew those statistics any way that looks good to us.
see the rate from 1900 to 2015?

actually its intentionally under-reported/mis-reported as complications/suicides/over-doses. the authorities really dont want to cause alarm and public panic of the epidemic, they try to focus public panic and hysteria on oligarch issues: global warming or russia

One time I heard the head of the intensive care unit give a talk in which he bragged about how he had one of the lowest mortality rates in his unit. I went out to lunch with him, where he became a bit inebriated, and told me how he managed to get those statistics---by wheeling the dying patients out into the corridor where they died and didn't sully our departments record.

With the projected statistics for cancer in this country at 8 of 10 Americans will develop cancer in their lifetime

>>129323528
Why do elites want to kill off the world won't that be kind of shitty for them what is left then when we're all gone it's like finishing a project you've always wanted to do and realizing after a few days it's actually kind of shit.

>>129325683
the messiah can be seen as the singularity- the genocidal AI. once they depopulate the planet they enjoy the spoils and life extension tech

automation achieved, depopulation invoked through the resurrection of the Golem aka the Singularity

the elite live on for eons with their automation and life extension tech.... all part of the Messianic age

>>129323528

then you get above 50 years old. every year you live after that the cancer risk starts to rise exponentially. if this is the case then op plots fits perfectly to that . since it starts to rise at same time. at year 85 you are at peak cancer risk.

aka, before when people died before 50-60 then they didn't live long enough to get cancer.

>>129323528
Dementia is rocketing up too. Both cancer and dementia are inevitable for every single person if they live long enough.

Its biology.

>>129325913
the cause of the epidemic which will cull the majority of the population is intertwined with industrial toxins, pollutions, and modern western lifestyle promoted by corporations, politicians and social engineers.

it took 100 years for the authorities to acknowledge that smoking is harmful to health

it will take 1000 years for the authorities to allow minimally-invasive, effective, curative treatments with great safety profile

the epidemic is silenced. the cures are suppressed. they want you to not exist.

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>>129323528
Looking at what people eat...
This couldn't be possibly it...

Lets look further shall we?

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I made a more realistic prediction instead of just continuing the trajectory.

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>>129325548
Dude...

You have to compare the rise in cancer cases against the decline in other fatal (but more easily curable) diseases.

For example, people today are much less of tuberculosis than than they were 100 years ago. As we got better at treating bacterial and viral diseases, people started to die from cancer more often.

>>129325602
>>129325971
The information you will learn is mostly censored and banned in the United States when it comes to cancer treatment, as only pharmaceutical products approved by the FDA are allowed to treat cancer in the U.S.

Unfortunately, the pharmaceutical industry and the U.S. government has lost the war on cancer.

At the beginning of the last century, one person in twenty would get cancer. In the 1940s it was one out of every sixteen people. In the 1970s it was one person out of ten. Today one person out of two gets cancer in the course of their life.

The cancer industry is probably the most prosperous business in the United States. In 2014, there will be an estimated 1,665,540 new cancer cases diagnosed and 585,720 cancer deaths in the U.S. $6 billion of tax-payer funds are cycled through various federal agencies for cancer research, such as the National Cancer Institute (NCI). The NCI states that the medical costs of cancer care are $125 billion, with a projected 39 percent increase to $173 billion by 2020.

The simple fact is that the cancer industry employs too many people and produces too much income to allow a cure to be found. All of the current research on cancer drugs is based on the premise that the cancer market will grow, not shrink.

>>129326334
I am a biochemist. You are a roleplayer on /pol/. Most likely some stupid american kid using a proxy.

>>129323666
the oligarchs get the cures and live to a ripe old age. the plebs get the epidemic and get to panic about russia and the climate instead of getting cured

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_ablation_and_immunotherapy

president Reagan's medical history, though guarded by privacy, reveals that he had skin cancer [ 1987 ], colon cancer [ 1985 ] and prostate cancer [ 1987 ] during his presidency.

"He died at age 93, and not from cancer. " [ Although President Reagan refused America's outdated cancer treatments, he did not share his cancer story with his fellow Americans. ]

>Rockefeller 102 yrs old
>Jimmy Carter 93 yrs old, cured of metatstatic cancer in 2015
>Gerald Ford 93 yrs old
>Reagan 93 yrs old, cured of metatstatic cancers (colon, prostate, skin) in 1985
>George Bush 93 yrs old
>Henry Kissinger 93 yrs old
>Charles W. Robinson 95 yrs old
>Robert S. Ingersoll 96 yrs old
>Andrew Marshall 95 yrs old
>Prince Philip 95 yrs old
>Zbigniew Brzezinski 90 yrs old

consider the fact that cancer treatments have remained the same for 100 years using archaic radiotherapy and chemo

consider the fact that immunotherapy, cryoimmunotherapy have been around for over 100 years, but suppressed and avoided by medical establishment

consider the fact that the FDA setup red-tape and expensive phased clinical trials to delay and discourage new treatments

also it has been proven that diseases like cancer can be treated with a combination/cocktail of old common, cheap, repurposed drugs and other suppressed alternatives

while they got the goyim worried about the climate, they are culling them with cancer

>>129326114

or people have just not figured out a cure for cancer

>>129326252


In 1971, when President Richard M. Nixon initiated the War on Cancer, the average person had a 1 in 10 risk of developing cancer in his or her lifetime. Today, that's changed – for the worse. The risk as of 2005 is 1 in 2.

January 2016 marked the 45th anniversary of President Richard Nixon’s State of the Union Address when he officially declared war on cancer.

He promised Americans that he would begin “an extensive campaign to find a cure for cancer.” He said, “The time has come in America when the same kind of concentrated effort that split the atom and took man to the moon should be turned toward conquering this dreaded disease.”

It sounded great. After all, just a couple years earlier we had put a man on the moon. The computer language BASIC and the first handheld pocket calculator were introduced. The vaccines for polio and mumps were developed. The first human-to-human heart transplant was successfully performed. In 1971, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) was invented and genetic modification of organisms was introduced. It seemed reasonable that, if we really focused on curing cancer, it could be accomplished. But it didn’t happen.

Forty-five years later, the primary treatments for cancer remain surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy.

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it's because of all the processed shit they include in foods + the carcinogenic pesticides that they absorb. (RoundUp the standard for GMO crops). Of course any research into the area is pushed back by Monsanto shills who harass anyone who dare question the dogma.

https://www.rt.com/usa/386858-monsanto-hired-trolls-court/

EAT WHOLE FOODS

>>129326656
or effective treatments are suppressed, its difficult to bypass bureaucracy setup by political and corporate interests.

protip: cures have been sidelined and ignored for a while


a cure from 1959 that they have since "rediscovered" every few decade without putting to practice

UNUSUAL 'CURE' OF A CANCER CITED; Blood of Melanoma Victim Helped Second Sufferer, Two Physicians Report

The strange disappearance of cancer in a patient who had received about half a pint of blood from a woman who had spontaneously "recovered" from the same disease was reported here yesterday.

http://www.nytimes.com/1959/04/03/archives/unusual-cure-of-a-cancer-cited-blood-of-melanoma-victim-helped.html

>>129326668
Incorrect.

sage

>>129326252

you are assuming a linear relationship between age and cancer. if you look it up you see its an exponential relationship this means that even with slight increase in live expectancy. you get huge increase in cancer

>>129326656
cures exist, lets not go into the controversial ones even, check out:
https://virtualtrials.com/surviveben.cfm

there are countless of scientists that have been denied and suppressed
William B. Coley (immunotherapy 100 years ago)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1888599/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7724661
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3833486/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1742910/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4777220/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CpG_ODN
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16814541


Warburg (metabolic therapy)
Burzynski (HDAC inhibitors and combotherapy)
Dr. James Arnott (cryoimmunotherapy),

CimaVax-EGF, bromopyruvate

>>129325662
If there was a meaningful increase you'd see young people dying from it more. But they're better off than ever. In this way, it's just an old persons disease.

Get an education and stop venting your jealousy of the elite. And eat cake.

>>129327001

i checked a random link. and it says its used in practice. they are not 100% cures. but are you claiming that these research articles are ignored?

>>129326776
>>129326656
>cures dont exist
look at this and explain why this old and proven safe and effective technology isnt being used
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_ablation_and_immunotherapy

protip: FDA
Mate if the FDA in its current form existed in 1953 we wouldn't have a polio vaccine

It costs billions of dollars just to get a fucking drug approved by the FDA

you could be sitting on the literal cure to cancer but you would never get it to the public because you'd go broke trying to jump through layer after layer after layer of red tape

penicillin and aspirin would not be available to the public if it would have received the modern clinical trial treatment

~20 years ago ebola vaccine was ready to save lives!! it just now went thru all the regulatory b.s and still not allowed to be used in the US!!

>The researchers said tests in people might start within two years, and a product could potentially be ready for licensing by 2010 or 2011.

>It never happened. The vaccine sat on a shelf. Only now is it undergoing the most basic safety tests in humans

if ebola epidemic was in the US in 2003 it would take 14 years for the drug finish phase 3 clinical trial and still not be available to the public.

a cancer epidemic does exist, the cure has existed for over a few decades. by the time it will be available, china would have settled north america.

>>129327439
Coley's immunotherapy cured many cases, not all. that was 100 years ago and he was silenced and immunotherapy was ignored until very recently. 100 years of immunotherapy stagnation.

Coley's immunotherapy is only used by a few alternative practitioners, its not standard.

>>129323528
This is as stupid as the flat earth bullshit.

>>129327575

>Combinatorial_ablation_and_immunotherapy
it does not say it cures cancer

>protip: FDA
why dose FDA wants to kill people?
and if FDA wants to kill people. why don't they just approve of a lethal medicine , or withdraw antibiotics

>>129323528
Looks like better detection to me.
Post cancer deaths vs lifespan.

>>129328013

The cryo-thermal therapy induced strongest “acute” response helped boost systematic anti-tumor immune response in the host for a stronger immunogenicity environment, which enabled more effective cure of metastatic tumor.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4860887/

Thermal ablation techniques (radiofrequency-ablation/cryotherapy) can be indicated with a curative intent.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24859596

https://books.google.com/books?id=xp_v6rTc7qUC&pg=PA53


http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/64/11/4024
this is old tech btw

>>129323528
The primary reason for this is that cancer is being identified because people are going to doctors more often and doctors have better detection methods than earlier in history. Many people died of things such as prostate cancer before modern medical techniques allowed for its easy identification and treatment, and before the economy actually allowed the common man to see a real doctor.

Data needs context, dumb nigger.

>>129327100
>>129326327
In a land mark article, John Bailar published in the “New England Journal of Medicine” “Are we losing the war on cancer?”

We recently confirmed that this is, still the case. We obtained from the WHO mortality time-series data of 20 countries over 45 years (1960–2015). During these 50 years the age standardised cancer death rate has varied little (−4%).

These data confirm the preliminary results from Bailar and contradict the notion of a breakthrough in cancer prevention, early detection, and cancer treatment (Summa 2012). Today, as before, cancer to the notable exception of some childhood malignancies and of lymphoma remains almost universally fatal.

Today cancer is an epidemic. Tomorrow the Chinese replace you.

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>>129328222
Really makes me think.
https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/research/articles/cancer_2020.htm
https://archive.fo/U87sI

>>129328334

This is some kind of bot, or script. no communication

/thread

Holy shit /pol/ has a lot of kikes now

>>129323528
the thing is some of the elites get cancer. look at steve jobs for example

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>>129323528
>genetically modified organisms
>over vaccinations
>glyphosates
>herbacides
>pestacides
>over cooked, over processed food
>titanic levels of EMR radiation
>chemtrails and aerosol polution

man i wonder what could possibly be clogging our kidneys so we don't filter lymphatic waste and creating more cancer?

>>129323528
Ok that's a load of BS jew. 50% of Americans do not have cancer.

>>129328013

There is lots of competition in the drug market, including from off-patent drugs which are blocked for re-purposing by FDA regulations

This keeps the monopoly and profit margins high, as people have no options but to obtain unaffordable drugs approved by FDA.

It shouldn't be surprising. There are billions of dollars in profits to be made from cancer treatment. Why cure it when you can sustain the business model with a limitless supply of desperate patients?

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>>129328671
shit dude they want to kill us what are they putting in the water

>>129323528
This "OMG THE ELITES WANT TO KILL BILLIONS OF HUMANS" meme has to stop. The elites want MORE people, not fewer people.

>>129329177
The Genocide, Eugenics and Birth Control movements were forced to completely re-make themselves after the Holocaust.

ie: away from hard genocide, to soft genocide

Returning to the root Malthusian hysteria, they repackaged their agenda as based on ‘over-population.’ Many, if not most, of the measures entertained prior to the Holocaust remained on the table for consideration. Only the reasons for implementing those measures were changed. Thus, in the 1950s and 1960s, calls for ‘population control’ increased in frequency and volume. See Paul Ehrlich’s “The Population Bomb” as one example that made a dent in popular opinion.

But population control advocates understood that the scope of the problem they were presenting required government action at all levels. Thus, Richard Nixon was prompted to enact population control legislation (still in force today). In 1972, Nixon would call for a commission to ‘study’ the problem and present recommendations. This is known as the Rockefeller Commission Report.

The two names most prominently listed on the Jaffe Memo are Bernard Berelson and Frederick Jaffe, the one responsible for the memo itself. These two same individuals were members of the Rockefeller Commission. Berelson was a full commissioner, while Jaffe was listed as a ‘special consultant.

http://jaffememo.com/the-memo-in-context

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>>129327960
Not really, if you take into consideration that most of the worlds' population now lives in heavily urban areas, and we are exposed to a large amount of industrial pollution. We are surrounded by technology, and many people eat processed food.

So if cancer rates have increased, it's not because of hurr durr globalists but more to do with how our environment has changed.

>>129323528
Well what did you expect?

>wifi
>GMOs
>shit diet in general
>cell phone towers

>>129328740
its da jooz

>>129323528
Fake news

what do merchants think of apricot seeds?

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>>129323528
Radiooncologist here, the real reason why cancer rates are increasing is because we are more adept at diagnosis. Biopsies, radio-imaging, and advanced panels are tools that make diagnosis much easier and patients are less stubborn to come in for what initially seem like minor grievances. I am certain that graph is illegitimate but regardless, the basic principle that cancer rates are increasing is true and this is precisely why. If someone was not diagnosed, does that mean they absolutely didn't have cancer? No. Increased diagnosis of the disease materializes as increased rates of the disease in the general population.

If autopsy was required upon death, in my humble opinion, the rate would be 10% more at the very least in the general population and drastically higher in the aged. Cancers of the blood and bone marrow (i.e.,- Leukemias) in particular occur in old age and in the past and even today people simply would not and do not seek treatment as the only outward sign of these disorders are easy bruising and deterioration of the gum. If families do not elect to have an autopsy, it is almost always assumed that they died of "natural causes" because these symptoms are thought to be part of getting older. I expect cancer rates to continue to increase as people become less stubborn (or more sissified depending on the patient) and diagnostic modalities are refined and new ones developed.

>>129331809
>most people had AIDS before adept diagnosis
>AIDS isnt an epidemic


>>129331566
it is debated
http://www.whale.to/c/moss.html

http://www.anticancerfund.org/therapies/laetrile

>>129331809
Medical physicist here

in your experience, do our linacs help or hurt people. I mean sure, we get local control sometimes, but a lot of the time we're just fighting a lost cause and give the patient toxicities

>>129333781
radiotherapy is 100+ years old and archaic

minimally invasive ablation (cryo, HIFU, RF) hasnt seen much adoption due to practitioners unwilling to adopt new tech and abandon archaic medical traditions

at the very least adopt stereotactic radiotherapy

>>129331566
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22071824

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Aight shlomo I work as an actuary, hold onto your tzitzit because time for a massive black pill: all men are born with a time bomb in their crotch. If you don't die young, you will get prostate cancer. The good news is it's very treatable if discovered. The bad news is the treatment turns you into a eunuch.


Cancer in general is decent death quality. As long as you got some insurance, you can exit in an orderly time, leave cash to your descendants, and maintain dignity. You get Alzheimer's you die broke, shitting your pants, probably getting raped daily by the nigger janitor in your institutional care setting.

In general: violent death > heart attack > cancer > stroke > Alzheimer's in terms of death quality.

>>129323672
>eat poison designed to kill plants and insects
>eventually get cancer
Yeah no shit

>>129333781
It depends on the physician operating it and the specifics of the linac in question. They incorrectly calibrate the equipment (e.g.,- beam geometry is too large/wide) , use far too high of an MeV, and have quick, successive treatments often 24 hours apart. All of these will lead to adverse outcomes and I will agree that the cost far exceeds the benefit and could even prove to be detrimental to the patient.

If low dose radiation is used and treatments are spaced, at minimum, three days apart (ideally longer) with excellent equipment, it is extremely beneficial even if the patient seems like a lost cause. I also induce ultra-low dose radiation in a slightly larger radius in the surrounding area 2 weeks prior to treatment. This minimizes damage by provoking a 'paradoxical', 'hormetic' response. The repair mechanisms to radiation damage treatment are thought to be upregulated by these lower-doses which from my experience drastically minimizes localized toxicity from later treatment.

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>>129326252
fixed

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>>129326519
>consider the fact that immunotherapy, cryoimmunotherapy have been around for over 100 years,

Medfag here, you are a fucking retard.

Immunotherapy as we know it today has not been around for 100 years, it's more like 30 max, and even then, if you aren't targeting something specific to the cancer cell that the vast majority of other cells in your body don't have, you are not doing any better than traditional chemo.

The treatment Carter used was incredibly new and is available to everyone who can benefit from it.

Clearly this has nothing to do with that fact that rich people can pay people to cook healthy food for them so they don't have to waste their time, right?

>>129340340
what is Coleys immunotherapy from 1880s

>>129340340
time for you to find another profession

current immunotherapies are, in fact, direct descendants of Coley’s toxins. Take, for example, Toll-like receptors agonists, which are being tested alone and as adjuvants in cancer vaccines. Coley’s toxins are believed to have worked in part by binding to and stimulating TLRs on immune cells. But it was not until the 1990s that scientists discovered that TLRs even existed.

https://www.cancerresearch.org/blog/april-2015/what-ever-happened-to-coleys-toxins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coley%27s_toxins

scroll the fuck up >>129327001

>>129340340

>immunotherapy has been around for more than 100 years. The approach aims to boost, restore, or improve the body’s natural defenses to fight cancer.

>It was pioneered by William Bradley Coley, M.D., who used cocktails of toxic bacteria to stimulate the immune systems of his patients in 1891. Coley’s procedure, however, it took a back seat because of political interests that preferred surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy. But scientists continued to study the immune system’s response to cancer, and several drug makers showed a renewed interest in Coley’s toxins during the 1990s. In the 21st century, immunotherapy was still on the radar but many scientists shifted their attention to targeted therapies that attack very specific mutations on cancer cells.

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/cancer-institute/newsroom/dialogue-blog/december-2016/no-longer-science-fiction-immunotherapy-offers-sec.aspx


thanks for outtinjg yourself as a retard

>>129337832
Thank you greatest ally

>>129323528
time ago people died of 'being old' or 'pains' or whatever

plenty of those would have been diagnosed some sort of cancer or cancer related disease nowadays

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>>129343385
>>129343827
>>129344299

Where to begin...

The whole idea behind his toxins were that they flooded the immune system with cytokines. We already know what the vast majority of cytokines are. The major ones being TNF-a, IL-1, IL-6. These are the ones primarily used to control infection.

IL-2 specifically has been used as an adjunct to treatment of renal cell carcinoma.

TNF-a is believed to be one of the major reasons why "coley's toxins" had any effect what so ever. But you have to realize, the body ALWAYS released TNF-a whenever there is cancer of infection. It's what gives people the skin and bones appearance known as "cachexia."

Yes, it's been well known that these cytokines have been around for many years, but no reasonable person sees it as a cure for cancer because they are SYSTEMIC. Do you have any idea what the sepsis is? It's a huge release of cytokines into the systemic circulation that causes a medley of undesirable effects. These cytokines aren't meant for system release, they WILL kill you in one way or another. Additionally, many of these cytokines actually stimulate autoimmune diseases.

Current immunotherapy is very, very loosely based on the processes you are mentioning. They are much more directed, using specialized antibodies (as seen in Carter's case) to deliver chemotherapy, toxic metabolites, or activate specific receptors on immune cells. They are incredibly promising and will absolutely be the new wave of cancer treatment. You CANNOT use systemic treatments like interleukins or chemo and be effective in every patient.

Furthermore, you have absolutely zero understanding of cancer. No two cancers are alike. You can have someone with renal cell carcinoma, and it will be different from the next person with RCC. There are thousands of different types of RCC. Why? Because cells don't mutate the same way. Some people show some benefit (but not cure) with IL-2, others don't.

>>129323528
Just looked it up, that graph is completely untrue. In the past few years, cancer rates have actually decreased: https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics

The other guy makes a good point too, that better diagnostic practices are the primary reason for the increases in the latter half of the twentieth century.

>>129323672
part of the reason life expectancy used to be far lower was the very high child mortality rate on birth and first years, so that doesn't explain cancer ocurrence

i'm in a conspiracy doc mood. anyone got any good ones? no hitler stuff

>>129323528
Fluoride and GMOs will give you cancer but they still use it even though there is a huge voice from the public against it.

>>129345390
>let me redefine immunotherapy just to cover the being outed as a retard

go ahead and embarrass yourself further. everyone but you considers cancer immunotherapy to have started with Coley 100 yrs ago

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1888599/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7724661
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3833486/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1742910/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4777220/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_immunotherapy#History

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IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THE FUCKING NUCLEAR TESTS YOU IMBECILES

>>129324287
>>129323528
Why would a jew post this?
Where is the trick?

>>129346388
GMO's don't cause cancer gypo

>>129346468
You fucking idiot.

I didn't say it wasn't immunotherapy. It's not the type of immunotherapy we do today.

His involved TNF-a. We do NOT use TNF-a as a means to cure cancer. We develop antibodies which are 100% different. We may use things that can flag cancer cells for the immune system, but it is not using TNF-a, nor is TNF-a necessary in these cases.

Our bodies produce our own TNF-a and it's one of the reasons that cancer actually has such a shitty outcome in the vast majority of patients.

>>129346599
there are naive goys who actually think that idiots like this (>>129340340) are able to treat cancer without even having the basic understanding, as shown with the lack of of knowledge of Coley immunortherapy.

this is the reason there is an epidemic, instead of having cures

>>129346673
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/07/15/new-study-links-gmos-to-cancer-liverkidney-damage-severe-hormonal-disruption/
It's true.
Cancer cells are a result of DNA damage and hormone irregularity which is what GMOs also do.
I would say it's GMOs mostly.

>>129323528
The rate of cancer hasn't actually gone up, it appears to have gone up for 2 reasons.

1) most people died from other causes before cancer could finish them
2) most cancers went undetected and were classified as "natural causes"

>>129346935
>I didn't say it wasn't immunotherapy. It's not the type of immunotherapy we do today.

lel. keep shifting goalposts.
seriously, get another job. you are a belligerent retard and danger to humanity.

>>129347239
>hasn't actually gone up, it appears to have gone up
>most cancers went undetected and were classified as "natural causes"
You're a moron.

Why are these charts always go into the future

How do they get Data from the Future

>>129323528
>Older people are more likely to get cancer
>People are living longer
I think you have your correlation and causation backwards

>>129324415
Haha.. Like idiocracy, murca never stops delivering the ultimate lows.. and some times the highs.

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>>129347389
>danger to humanity.

Says the person trying to get people to think that we need to go back to the dark ages to cure cancer.

Hell, while we are at it, why don't we try blood letting again too. It worked so well back then.

>>129347411
This. OP is a faggot, as per usual

>>129323528
It's plastics. Gen x is the first plastic generation.

>>129347417
projections

but it really feels like everyone is dying of cancer nowadays. i know 2 people who didnt recently, 1 was suicide, the other one was fire in the house while asleep

>>129347645
> immunotherapy is now the dark ages to cure cancer

get a load of this goy. seriously fuck off and lurk and actually read the entire thread and links provided before embarrassing yourself

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_ablation_and_immunotherapy
>dark ages???
>>129327575


retards and fuck ups like you are the reason why medical practice is in the dark ages

>>129347944
exactly, this is what the elite want to hide.

whenever they shift focus to #resist, russia, global warming, open borders you shift it back to the suppressed cancer epidemic that is culling the planet

see corroboration >>129325662

>>129348004
>get a load of this goy. seriously fuck off and lurk and actually read the entire thread and links provided before embarrassing yourself


Kek. You know, while we are at it, why don't we give people tetanus and botulism too. The tetanus will cause spasm but the botulism will cause relaxation, if we mix them we can get a huge release of cytokines and hopefully kill the cancer.

You should go to John's Hopkins or the Mayo Clinic and tell them to study it.

>>129347411
Yes, we had the same rates of cancer before, people just didn't realize it was cancer. Now that we are correctly classifying the affliction it appears that the rate has gone up, when we are just in fact putting the diseases into the appropriate categories.

>>129323528

That's because we live longer and our immune system gets worse the older we are, dumbass.

>>129348330
>The tetanus will cause spasm but the botulism

why would you do that? whats wrong with you? havent you studied Coley's immunotherapy to understand the selected bacteria and why he avoided those you recommend? or did they not go over basics of this in your diploma mill?

>>129348459
>people just didn't realize it was cancer
What kind of incompetent doctors do you have out there, oh the only incompetent is the shitposter.

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>>129348646
No, see it's okay because they will counteract each other. All we need are the cytokines!

>>129348004
>>129343827
This jew might have something.
You see AIDS is all about immunodeficiency and HIV would multiply in such environment anyway, but the cause has not been directly linked to HIV that's why it's called AIDS and not HIVosis or something like that.

>>129348330
you have a serious deficit in this topic. i suggest you ALT+F4

and open a new window with the following URL in the URL field of the browser.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_ablation_and_immunotherapy


with your understanding, spend a couple of days on it to get your head wrapped around it.

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>>129349029
>spend a couple of days on it to get your head wrapped around it.
>A couple days

See, this is why you don't understand the topic.

>>129340340
Good post. What I find the most logically incoherent with this guy is that his entire argument boils down to a specific treatment being "old". He just is concerned with the age of it and nothing else. He only mentions the (age) and forgets any and all technical details.

For instance, his earlier post:

>radiotherapy is 100+ years old and archaic

You could say the same thing about automobiles. He also assumes that these technologies are static and do not evolve. This guy is an absolute imbecile and has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to medicine.

>>129323528
When did low fat become a thing?
When did sugary drinks become a thing?

>>129350037
It is just amazing how you refuse to see the obvious. Many treatments are old and there are forces to keep it this way. Take dentistry for example, even though we hear nearly every month about some breakthrough, your local dentists still drill-n-fill like they did in 1950s. Sure their machines drill faster now, but the approach is the same , healthy teeth tissue is destroyed, caries is not stopped and the tooth will be lost eventually.

>>129323528
Barely anyone actually dies of cancer in the first world anymore, as long as you are on top of getting checkups it will get detected early as hell and never even be an issue at all. If for some reason you are an idiot and allow yourself to progress to the later stages without treatment, they can still pretty much keep you alive indefinitely these days. The mortality rate is something like 1 in 1000 of people diagnosed.

>>129350552
Yes but you usually don't move forward to a better treatment then go backwards, which is what certain people in this thread are saying we should be doing.

>>129350552
So true, that not counting the pill system.

>>129323672
Why didn't the rate of cancer rise with the population boom? Why did it wait until now?

>>129350975
Actually, you do, in a sense. Once again, I will use a dentistry as an example. There is a clinic in Austria that does bioimplants.Instead of crazy invasive sinus lifts, titanium screws into the bone, they gently remove your tooth and create the exact zirconia replica of your own root which is immediately inserted and fits like a glove. It heals nicely around it and eventually you just put a regular crown on it. By your logic it is a step back, because titanium implants and sinus lifts are highly technical and sophisticated procedures. Furthermore, that Austrian clinic is constantly under attack from the mainstream industry, because their technology is highly disruptive to the current implants industry.

>>129351599

(((I wonder why)))

>>129347769
>plastic

We have a winner. Widespread use of plastics became popular right around the rise in OPs graph. It gets worse the more they try to push plastic

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/10/how-the-plastic-bag-became-so-popular/381065/

>>129353740
Please archive or screenshot https://archive.is/rEAUt

>>129348924
You are the demolition man Anon.
>Well done.

What truth in big Pharma holding back certain treatments to maximise profit?

>>129349027
bad example...
there IS a HIV-osis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV-associated_neurocognitive_disorder

crazy enough, HIV's final target is not your immune system, it's the brain

>>129323528
Nigga in the 1920s we didn't even know what cancer was. People just got old and died.

>>129325230
I doubt it's suppressed. Especially considering "cancer" isn't really a disease. It's a catch all term for like a hundred different kinds of cancer.

That being said there's definitely something weird going on with how many people have cancer. It probably has to do with something that modern society can't live without.

>>129324287
Any idea how they're increasing the cancer rate?

>>129353740
This is completely unscientific and borderline retarded but I always feel grosser drinking out of plastic when compared to metal/glass

>>129323528
i'm sure it has nothing to do with eating food that's full of chemicals and preservatives or all the other toxic stuff in our environments
funny that leaded gas for cars was banned in the US in the mid 70s and most of yurop in the 80s and 90s and then cancer rates went up, probably some new additive in gas that's making it worse

>>129323528
Kind of strange it explodes when we opened the flood gates on immigration and the rise of the drug epidemic. Is there any relation?

>>129354548
Hard to say. You have to consider that there are multiple pharm companies out there.

One particular thing that I found somewhat unusual was the abandonment of a drug that gave you tons of HDL (good cholesterol), which is supposedly to be good at preventing heart attacks. To my knowledge, there was one trial on it and it was cancelled abruptly after someone or a few people had heart attacks while on the drug. There wasn't a whole lot more information on it. I did think that was somewhat strange.

But the vitamin B3 (niacin) can raise your HDL as well and it doesn't seem to be as effective as we'd like, so it's truly hard to say.

A drug might have great capability to kill cancer, but some people might not be able to tolerate it, and it won't make it through trials because of it.

I can tell you that the new antibody treatments (the new wave of immunotherapy) is incredibly promising and people have been cured of cancer. But it is relatively new and our understanding in molecular genetics and biology of cancer isn't exactly concrete either. But that's probably owing to the fact that no two cancers are really alike because of the mutations they go through during their transformation.

Regardless, it is certainly possible that big pharma could hold back a treatment just because they can't make money on it, but honestly, I don't think they could really keep getting away with that. Someone would say something eventually. The real issue is that one or two people might benefit from a homeopathic remedy or something of the sort, but the vast majority do not. But people will point to that one outlier and say its a cure when in reality it was a fluke. Some people have been "cured" by prayer, but obviously, this isn't accepted as a treatment.

>>129355724
It's not really bad to be skeptical about such things.

I personally do not microwave food in plastic. I occasionally eat out of plastic but I don't even drink out of plastic cups anymore.

I kind of think it tastes funny.

>>129323672
yeah. it's the same reason domestic cats all get kidney disease. in the wild they only live ~7 years, but that's ample time to have plenty of litters, so there was never any selection pressure to weed out kidney disease. now that they live ~15 years (for indoors), their kidneys reach their limit long before the other stuff that used to kill them manages to end their lives.

>>129324092
Hate to have to point out the obvious, but the amount of time you will live has yet to be determined.

>>129351806
I'm honestly not too familiar with dentistry or the procedures, but that doesn't really sound like a step back to me. Going from a basic treatment, to a highly technical one, back to a basic one isn't necessarily a step back so long as the outcome is improved. In the case of medicine, I can almost guarantee you that any systemic treatment is a step back from where we are going now because that's essentially your traditional chemotherapy.

I do believe that implants are going to be an incredibly important treatment in the future though.

>>129323528
Breast cancer is exclusive to the ashkenazi. Non-jews with breast cancer have ashkenazi DNA.

I wonder if geneticists are working on a designer virus that degenerates ashkenazis at the molecular level due to a chemical reaction with ashkenazi DNA? It's definitely a possibility and not gonna lie. Just the very idea makes me HARD as fuck. I seriously have a giant boner thinking about dead jews

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>>129357740
>Breast cancer is exclusive to the ashkenazi. Non-jews with breast cancer have ashkenazi DNA.

>>129357858
It's true though. The most common type of breast cancer is an ashkenazi problem introduced by the degenerate ashkenazi genes into our pool. Make no mistake though it's exclusively ashkenazi. They have a host of genetic issues that will literally cause their own extermination over time. That will take too long though.

What's with the nigger reaction gif? This isn't neogaf

>>129323528

Or it's just that we live longer & can better diagnose cancers now

>>129354670
>However, the cause of ADC can be difficult to discern because the central nervous system can be damaged by a number of other causes related to HIV infection:
You morons never quit...
If you have immunosuppression of course you'll have mental problems, you'll have all sorts of problems all over the body which is literally dying and being eaten away by microorganisms.
All I said was that immunosuppression was not conclusively a result of HIV, which is true, that's why it's called Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome, which is a pretty general description.

>>129356722
Don't read too much into drug trials. Your average drug as about a 9% chance of making it from phase 1 to approval. Cancer drugs have about a 5% chance. This is particularly significant since a pharma company won't even start phase 1 unless they think they have a good chance of making it to approval. The trial progress is rigorous with high standards.

Holding back treatments just doesn't make sense. If they can make a drug for a cancer that currently has no treatment, they can make bank charging 80k a dose because they can. If they can target a cancer type that already has a treatment with a better drug, they can crush their competition. The only reason they would develop a drug but not take it through trials is if they felt it wouldn't be competitive with existing treatments.

The antibody stuff you talk about is interesting. It's the new way of thinking about cancer. Old treatment methods were based around delivering a payload to the tumor that would cause it to die. Unfortunately this also kills the rest of the body. You just hope the rest of the body dies slower.

Now we've started to look at chemical pathways that lead to cancer and individual proteins in the cell that are out of balance. Say you examine tumors from one specific type of cancer, and you find that 95% of those tumors show an overabundance of a protein that suppresses cell death. If you can develop an antibody, small molecule, peptide, whatever that binds to the active site of that protein and makes it nonfunctional, cell death resumes as normal and the tumor dies.

The goal is to have a specific treatment for every pathway that can lead to cancer. A doctor would then be able to biopsy a tumor, identify the specific biochemical causes of the cancer, and give a tailored medical regime to counteract that.

Only thing is developing those antibodies or whatever is a lot harder than you would think.

>>129358330
There's this gene called the BRCA1 gene (and to a lesser extent, BRCA2). Every human has this gene. It does a medley of things, but essentially prevents tumor growth. It can mutate in any human being. If it mutates, you can get breast cancer, along with ovarian, prostate, and blood cancers.

>>129350975
>>129350552
>>129350037

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatorial_ablation_and_immunotherapy
>backwards

explain this oh enlightened goy

>>129350037
fucktard, if you actually know what you are talking about you would know that minimally invasive, effective ablative therapies have existed for a long time but ignored due to laziness of the medical field to adopt

RF ablation available since the early 20th century and neglected
cryoablation available since the early 20th century and neglected
HIFU available since the 1940s and neglected
hyperthermia available since the 1800s and neglected
immunotherapy available since the 1800s and neglected
photodynamic therapy since the 1960s and neglected
stereotactic radiation since 1940s and neglected

>>129351599
>rate

>>129351599
this is the question the experts try to avoid or give a half-assed attempt to explain

>>129358868
>A doctor would then be able to biopsy a tumor, identify the specific biochemical causes of the cancer, and give a tailored medical regime to counteract that.

Correct. The final treatment for cancer will most likely be an antibody tailored to the patient's cellular biology. It is going to cost a shit ton, which is one reason I don't really think big pharma would be for preventing such research.

I think the biggest thing to overcome is making sure that you have a very, very specialized antibody that doesn't target anything but the cancer, but that's going to be very difficult since they are derived from your body as well. I don't know if we will ever get 100% away from side effects associated with killing your own cells with the treatment, but from the looks of it, we can get pretty close.

But outside of the immunotherapy, we are also doing incredibly interesting surgeries. Interventional radiology is starting to do more cold and heat ablation therapies instead of actually cutting into the patient and removing tumors.

For instance, they will appropriately mark the tumor and put a probe that can either heat or cool directly into a solid tumor, turn it on, and create an area of death in a sphere shape around the probe. But it's incredibly localized and the cold ablation has been very effective as reducing swelling and other side effects.

The next 20 years will be fascinating for cancer treatments, which is one reason why I am considering going into oncology.

>>129355440

>the cause of the epidemic which will cull the majority of the population is intertwined with industrial toxins, pollutions, and modern western lifestyle promoted by corporations, politicians and social engineers.

>>129326114

>>129360570
thanks for repeating what is already known in this thread

except you are wrong on one detail: ablative immunotherapy is not new

read through and verify your shit before misinforming the goys

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_cancer_treatment_development

>>129359893
The only thing that you posted that has ultimately been abandoned was the original immunotherapy.

Everything else has been worked on and improved. Keep in mind, the first x-ray machine was in 1896. That's a little over a hundred years ago that we LEARNED about imaging.

We didn't have the capability to use half the shit you are talking about because we couldn't see the cancers. Sure, you can fry the cancer, if you could find it.

Now we have improved imaging and marking capabilities which allow us to visualize the cancer and any metastasis from it, and effectively destroy it. Literally all of the shit you stated is still used. The original form was archaic and less efficient and wasn't useful because we could never be sure if there was cancer anywhere else.

The new forms can actually target cancer now instead of your whole body.

>>129323528
Cancer is genetic disease for the most part, so stop interracial and it will be better.

>>129361028
I like how your post ignores all we know about detecting cancer agents before they enter the body.

>>129361015
See>>129361028

Of course we knew we could destroy shit with heat and radiation. But where was it? Nobody fucking knew. The first PET scan didn't even happen until the 1950's. Why would they try to perfect a treatment that couldn't be used? There was no reason to even try to use cold/heat/radiation ablation. Especially radiation, we couldn't even focus that shit. Now we have computers that can maximize and minimize what we need to.

>>129361187
>I like how your post ignores all we know about detecting cancer agents before they enter the body.

You are going to have to explain what you are talking about, Texas.

>>129361028
>The only thing that you posted that has ultimately been abandoned was the original immunotherapy.
nigga what?


>Minimally Invasive Breast Cancer Cryotherapy Largely Ignored in U.S.
https://breastcancer-news.com/2016/03/29/breast-cancer-story/


i need to start chargin you medfags for lectures n shit. seriously, you are so illiterate on this topic it is embarrassing (dont take it personal, you arent alone). its really the state of the medical profession and industry that needs to be gulag'd and started from scratch.

all the ablative minimally invasive therapies have been largely ignored and avoided in the US except in certain situations, which is a major issue since it should be the gold standard replacing ineffective archaic therapies

>>129361390


1982 Immunological aspects of cryosurgery in general surgery.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7105777

1972 3 years of clinical experience with cryosurgery in the field of general surgery
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/5026630

1985 Immunological response in cryo-immunotherapy of malignant tumors--the mechanism of the rise and fall of NK activity and cytotoxic T lymphocytes after inoculation of Cryo-destructed Meth A cells

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3878396
1998 The Use of Cryosurgery for Breast Cancer

it is important to communicate that cryosurgery of breast cancer, for small and localized as well as advanced and unresectable disease, has been used for almost 30 years (as of 1998).

As early as 1968 and through 1994, Tanaka has treated 9 primary advanced and 40 recurrent breast cancers with cryosurgery. All cases were considered incurable: advanced, unresectable, and resistant to radiotherapy, chemotherapy, and endocrine therapy.

http://archsurg.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=211464

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>>129326114
>smoking causes cancer
Nop.

>>129361390
Elements and materials that are a cancer risk, how many of them are still in our food air and clothes?

>>129362040
Cancer genes cause cancer, chemicals with bad immune system only invoke the genes faster.

>>129362310
They dropped lead, created radioctive isotopes with nuclear testing and made literally anything out of poison, but now my shitty genes are at fault.

Fucking elites so cunning.

>>129323528
If nothin else kills an organism which exists only to reproduce at a young age, cancer kills the superannuated.

Death of the individual is good for the species, which is why plants and insects are more successful than humans.

It doesn't matter. Old people should die earlier so they burden society less.

>>129361962

http://keepingthem.com/about-cryablation/

1997 THE GUIDED CRYOIMMUNOTHERAPY IN THE ADVANCED PROSTATE CANCER

http://www.cryoforum.org/Archive/Urology/mouraviev.html
2014 Thermal ablation techniques (radiofrequency-ablation/cryotherapy) can be indicated with a curative intent.

The medical records of all patients who had undergone curatively intended thermal ablation of bone metastases between September 2001 and February 2012 were retrospectively analysed

Thermal ablation should be included in the therapeutic arsenal for the cure of bone metastases.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24859596

>>129362569
Nuclear is different, that's some heavy shit, but depends, since what nuclear studies around Chernobyl proven is that animals living around polluted area don't have cancer, they only live less, especially true for smaller animals who absorb more radioactive material, their lifespan can be shorten by 50%.

>>129351599
>Why didn't the rate of cancer rise with the population boom? Why did it wait until now?

better diagnosis

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>>129361971
>Old people are more likely to smoke

Yes, that is true. And?

>>129362911
Old people also have weaker immune system, therefore more likely to have diseases.

>>129361962
>nigga what?

Exactly what I said.

The immunotherapy you are talking about was cytokine immunotherapy, which is more akin to traditional chemotherapy. Today, we do antibody immunotherapy. Two completely different theories, outcomes, and topics.

Furthermore, the cyroimmuno therapy you keep referring to is far from a guaranteed cure, and is actually an incredibly rare phenomenon that we can't even currently explain.

Again, we are actually working on treatments where 40+% of patients benefit from, not less than 1%.

Additionally, the cryo therapy for breast cancers has no studies behind it. Who is going to go in for a procedure to have something done if we don't for sure know it is effective when there is absolutely a surgery that is. That's called malpractice.

More and more studies are coming out, but they take time because they NEED to be effective.

>>129323528
It's all the shit we eat, the radiation in the air, fucking chemicals.

The earth is a failed planet, all because of a handful of short sighted elite pedo degenerates. I hope this Jesus stiff is real and he comes down to kick some ass because obviously humanity is too wicked to survive without a parent coming down and smacking these shitheads down.

>>129323528
>the majority of people being genelets is an elite conspiracy

greatest ally I...

>>129362814
But radioactive isotopes cause cancer.

My shitty genes didn't made those.

>>129363693
What causes cancer and all diseases is weak immune system. Of course radioactive isotopes will fuck your immune system, therefore will invoke cancer in people who are genetically leaned towards cancer and even those who are little less leaned towards cancer. But you literally can't get cancer if your genes aren't leaned towards cancer at all. Of course smoking might be bad for you, but you won't get cancer, smoking causes lung diseases, it might, but lets take into consideration also city air pollution, your unhealthy way of life and so on. Smokers tend to also drink coffee and live more unhealthy in general sense and still they have less cancer than non-smokers, because non-smokers might do other things instead of smoking that lower their immune system even further. Smokers also tend to move more, they go out, smoke, it's something if you look at fatties of USA. Fat is one of their genetic defects, other obvious one being mixed races, which is little harder to escape than losing weight, add to that chemicals and so on and you got your cancer people. Still doesn't changes the fact that cancer is genetic, it's just that you weakening your immune system to get it faster, but not always the case, some get cancer almost always if it runs in family.

>>129363124
>The immunotherapy you are talking about was cytokine immunotherapy
its not just cytokines, m8. the point is immunotherapy was considered a sham like voodoo and abanoned due to decisions of authority.
it returned only recently due to underground scientists keeping faith in immunotherapy.

that is 100 years of immunotherapy advances lost!! do you get that we could have had a multitude of immunotherapies if the assholes didnt block the advances?

if you knew the history, there was major brawl involved between Coley and his boss, Ewing.

Ewing himself was a fanatical supporter of radiation therapy for the treatment of all bone tumors and repudiated any other theories for the treatment of cancer. Ewing therefore refused Coley permission to use his toxins at Memorial Hospital. Read up on this


>Today, we do antibody immunotherapy
read up on CimaVax-EGF, Gendicine, Rigvir (virotherapy), Provenge, Interferon


>Russia treated cancer w/ photo-dynamic therapy for over 20 years

>USSR treated cancer w/ virotherapy since the 90s (Rigvir)

>Cuba has real cancer vaccines

>China has real gene therapy Gendicine

>China treats most solid cancers w/ ablation (HIFU, RF, cryo etc) since the 1990s
>China offering advanced procedures including Molecular Targeted Therapy, HIFU, cryoablation, gamma knife, photo-dynamic therapy, targeted therapy, stem-cell therapy, immune cell therapy, NK Immunotherapy, and gene therapy.

>>129323528
TOP KEK

Hey about when was marijuana criminalized?

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>>129323528
>>129364936
>1970 rolls around
oops you can't have the cure
>cancer goes up
really makes you think

>>129363124
>Additionally, the cryo therapy for breast cancers has no studies behind it.
plenty of studies. i can post 100s of research articles going back decades.

also, it has been utilized for decades, so it is not theory check the links here >>129361962

in terms of the abscopal effect, it is unpredictable for cryoablation used alone, only.

the point if cryoimmunotherapy is to inject the immunotherapy (keytruda, interferons, saponins etc) into the necrotised tumor and enhance the immunological reaction and achieve the abscopal effect.

2014 Breast cryoablation in patients with bone metastatic breast cancer.

All of the cryoablation sessions were completed and well tolerated. Complete regression of the disease was achieved in 15 (88%) patients 2 months after the cryoablation. Two (12%) patients underwent a second cryoablation treatment because of a minimal persistence of viable tumor (residual disease). No relapse of primary tumors was observed on breast imaging during the follow-up period. One patient (6%) developed a new lesion localized to the contralateral breast.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24948574

so why stall and block it?

>>129361971
>g-goys the epidemic is fake, the russian global warming is real!
In the 1920s scientists showed that cigarette smoking caused lung cancer.[224] Which resulted in no governmental ban on smoking.

In the UK and the USA, an increase in lung cancer rates was being picked up by the 1930s, but the cause for this increase remained suppressed. Decades followed of suppression of truth, unsuccessful attempts by victims to sue the companies and government protecting the interests of the tobacco mafia.

After 7 decades, and millions dead, the tobacco mafia in the United States has suffered greatly since the mid-1990s, when it was successfully sued by several U.S. states. The suits claimed that tobacco causes cancer, that companies in the industry knew this, and that they deliberately denied the legitimacy of their findings, contributing to the illness and death of millions worldwide.

The industry was found to have decades of internal memos confirming in detail that tobacco (which contains nicotine) is both addictive and carcinogenic (cancer-causing


There have been multiple court cases on the issue that tobacco companies have researched the health effects of tobacco, but suppressed the findings or formatted them to imply lessened or no hazard


yet compare the benefit of doubt towards deadly tobacco with the prolonged, bureaucratic burden of proof for modern, elegant, non-brute force, safe, cheap cancer cures

>>129362838
:)
I bet is the same with autism. Boy, the water today tastes extra great! Can't wait for my teeth to be extra strong now :D

>>129364689
If China, Russia, and Cuba are doing such a great job with cancer treatments, then why is their cancer mortality rate higher than ours?

>>129365441
The idea of injecting keytruda into a necrolized tumor doesn't make any sense. Keytruda doesn't aid your immune system in doing anything, it targets the cancer itself.

Interferons may be useful, but you would have to be incredibly careful about injecting that into an area of ablation as it halts protein synthesis in cells in the area. If you damage cells in the area with ablation therapy, or your immune system does it because of the swelling from the necrosis, it will cause a larger area of damage because cells won't be able to repair.

The study you mention here involved 22 patients, at a specific facility. Not everyone is trained to use ablation therapy, and the vast majority of facilities don't have the equipment for it.

Will it happen? Absolutely. It will fall under interventional radiology most likely to begin with.

Stalling and blocking isn't necessarily the right terminology here.

>>129366304
>The idea of injecting keytruda into a necrolized tumor doesn't make any sense. Keytruda doesn't aid your immune system in doing anything, it targets the cancer itself.

I retract this statement. That one was a misunderstanding on my part of the chemotherapy.

But the other statements stand. Interferon may be useful in ensuring the cancer can't repair, but if it's necrolized it wouldn't grow anyway.

>>129366599
>chemotherapy.
Immunotherapy*.

Going to grab coffee.

>>129366304
>Cuba
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/cubas-inventive-vaccine-could-treat-more-than-just-lung-cancer/

>injecting keytruda
Doctor Develops New Method to Significantly Reduce Cost and Improve Effectiveness of Cancer Treatment

Immunotherapy drugs such as Yervoy, Optdivo and Keytruda are injected directly into the tumor after image-guided cryoablation

http://immuno-oncologynews.com/2015/02/10/cryoablation-combined-with-intra-tumoral-injection-of-immunotherapeutic-drugs-offers-promising-outcomes/

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/doctor-develops-new-method-to-significantly-reduce-cost-and-improve-effectiveness-of-cancer-treatment-300343761.html


if you have immunotherapy and cryotherapy 100 years ago and used it successfully but then it got ignored and FDA didnt grandfather it, but other countries use them and the US is still waiting for these treatments, then yeah, its stalled and blocked

>>129367353
>if you have immunotherapy and cryotherapy 100 years ago and used it successfully but then it got ignored and FDA didnt grandfather it

Again, the immunotherapy from 100 years ago is not the same as what we have now. We didn't even have interferon to give to patients until the 1970's. I can guarantee you that interferon alone is not going to be some amazing treatment to be used with ablation therapy.

Yervoy, Optdivo and Keytruda literally came out in the last 5 years or so.

Considering they've already started using them with ablation therapy doesn't sound like stalling or blocking to me.

And again, if Cuba is so good at treating lung cancers, then why is their mortality rate higher than ours? These treatments are just treatments, not cures. The drug you are talking about from Cuba is similar to something we use known as Avastin, which is only effective for a certain period of time until the cancer mutates. If it was actually a cure, it'd be available here.

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>>129323528

Social Engineering & various forms of Eugenics are involved in this.

Feminism for instance has destroyed Planets before due to dropping birthrates & causing Degeneracy leading to Destruction.

Bioweapons that can target Races & Sex's can also be used to drop/control Populations.

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>129366599
Interferon is immunostimulating, when injected into the necrotized tumor, it signals an immune reaction.

there are plenty of injectable immune adjuvants directly in tumor including saponins, cpg, various cytokines, Matrix-M, Cyclophosphamide

the sad part is, this shit has been used for a very long time, absolutely nothing involved in this is new


2009 Cyclophosphamide unmasks an antimetastatic effect of local tumor cryoablation.

http://cancerimmunolres.aacrjournals.org/content/4/5/377

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>>129365940
http://www.newvision.co.ug/new_vision/news/1432740/-smokers-risk-lung-cancer
>Non-smokers at greater risk of lung cancer
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-28/lung-cancer-non-smokers-unfair-attitudes-australia/8308250
>Many people suffering from lung cancer are wrongfully accused of being long-term smokers and want more empathy from fellow Australians who are quick to judge about how they got the disease.
>Nine of the top 10 lung cancer risk factors have nothing to do with smoking.

>>129368467
immunotherapy includes bacterial, virotherapy, gene therapy, antibodies, immune stimulators/adjuvants

bacterial immunotherapy is an immunostimulating therapy that invokes fever, interferon, CpG ODN, cytokine and the tumor necrosis factor

a complex cascade, a “perfect storm” of cytokines— among these, interleukin (IL)-2, interferon-α,120 TNF-α,118,119 and IL-12119 are seen as critical—and of toll-like receptors and other pattern recognition receptor agonists, each of which plays a unique and vital role in the orchestration of the immune response

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CpG_ODN

so the reality is different from what you say. it is a comprehensive immunoadjuvant and remember fever and hyperthermia activate the heat-shock response, inducing heat-shock proteins; these can then activate dendritic cells and transform them into mature antigen-presenting cells, which then potentiate the immune recognition of antigens. Furthermore, hyperthermia improves immune surveillance by activating NK-cells and T-cells and increasing trafficking of dendritic cells into lymph nodes.

its not that simple as you say it is

>>129368467
>Considering they've already started using them with ablation therapy
very misleading.

yes, ablation therapy has been used for decades as already discussed, but FDA does not approve these therapies for most cancers, even though these therapies have been used for decades for the cancers that FDA does not approve of

regardless, before obamacare, doctors could perform treatments that were not covered by insurance.

Dr. Littrup successfully performed cryoablation on breast cancer patients from stage I-IV, until the introduction of new Obamacare regulation in 2013, which ended the practice in the US. many such cases

so when you say "they've already started using them with ablation therapy", in reality they are reinventing the wheel and limiting its use when it was already used for decades.

for instance, cryoablation of breast is used for stage 0 tumors that are less than a certain size, eventhough cryoablation of breast cancer has treated stage 1-4 for decades with various sizes.

so yeah, stall and blocking, as usual. just like immunotherapy.

>>129370022
Nor is it as simple as you say.

If hyperthermia were such a great thing, people with Grave's disease and people who exercise a lot would handle cancer better.

My point is that the bacterial immunotherapy is not targeted and doesn't work for everyone, like every cancer treatment. Everyone's cancer is in different grades or stages, and has many, many different mutations.

The immunotherapy revolving around cytokines is limited because cancer cells can look exactly like the cells in the rest of your body, and they can mutate further to hide from the immune system.

I whole heartedly agree that exposing them to the immune system is a good thing to try, because it's simple. But the outcome isn't as great as you are saying. As I've stated, the actual chance of the body recognizing the cancer as foreign and then removing it all from the body is very rare, mainly because when you have a cancer, the progeny of that cancer are not exactly the same due to mutations. The original in your liver can potentially be very different from the stuff that has spread to your lungs.

Furthermore, if this actually were the case, cancers that have necrotic centers should potentially end up killing themselves in some cases because the immune system still has to come in and clean it up, but we don't really see that.

Does it need studied more? Abso-fucking-lutely. But I don't see it being a cure for cancer.

>>129371081
>FDA does not approve these therapies for most cancers,

That's because a lot cancers have metastasized or aren't solid. Surgery of any sort is never really an option at that point.

But again, if there are countries using these methods and they are successful then they should show a lower cancer mortality.

>>129323528
>medicine advances
>many of illnesses are now cured or treatable
>deaths from cancer rises

wew, who would knew

>>129323528
>DUH ELITES ARE KILLING US ALL!! MUH DEPOPULATION! OVERPOPULATION IS A MYTH!!
>Elites are actually encouraging humans to breed out of control so they can reap higher profits

>>129371874
That's actually a good point. I am curious to see whether the number of deaths from other diseases has shifted considerably over to cancer.

>>129323528
in the 1880s you also had an infant mortality rate such that having 4-5 kids was necessary just to have offspring.

>>129371492
coley's immunotherapy was included in the discussion not as a recommendation or cure, but a historically significant abandonment of immunotherapy, only to be resurrected a century later.

coley's immunotherapy is not a cure all, it is specific to various factors and still needs to be studied. as mentioned earlier, it was the opening of the field that would have brought about a immunotherapy revolution a century ago. instead we are just now catching up.

regarding antibodies, its nothing that wasnt achievable during coley's days if the authorities didnt suppress immunotherapy.

you wanna develop an antibody immunotherapy?

just inject a drop of patients own blood in the hen's chest muscle, , and then repeat this fortnightly for 2.5 months. Then, waiting for a month. During this time, hen produces quantities of antibodies against it or the infection you have. The antibodies then end up widely in the egg yolk.

Then you should preferably eat the yolk basically raw because the antibodies are heat sensitive.

there you fuckin go. its not rocket science. they make the shit out to be. this could have been available 100 years ago

>>129323528
Most likely that when life expectancy hits 70 the cancer rate increases exponentially
Just a theory though, how's the cancer rate in Russia? I believe they have a life expectancy less than 70, so there should be a lot less cancer.

>>129372581
>there you fuckin go. its not rocket science. they make the shit out to be. this could have been available 100 years ago

You do realize that immune cells actually go through a maturing process so they don't attack the host right? If the cancer isn't expressing anything that is unique from the host cell this wouldn't work.

Additionally, using antibodies from other organisms is a good way to have an adverse reaction. Even mouse antibodies have a high chance of reaction. That's assuming that it didn't get destroyed in your stomach/intestine or that your body didn't destroy it first.

Then you would have to hope that whatever the antibody was made to is expressed by the cancer on the membrane.

This is a lot more complicated than you are making it out to be. And we didn't really have the ability to purify proteins until the 1950's.

>>129323528

Fake news.

It's due to better diagnosis tools. The invention of the MRI, the primary was we detect cancers, was in 1977. And they've only continued to get better from there.

Before people would just die and we'd put it down to old age or something related to their symptoms. Combined with cancer being waaaaay more common in older age, with people living longer this is a suspected trend.

>>129324438
>killing nigs slavs and gays
nothing of value is being lost

>>129373298
indeed, but when a chicken is immunised with a mammalian antigen these differences result in a broader range of epitopes being recognised than would be by an immunised mammal; the antigen is more ‘foreign’. The result is increased immunogenicity and specificity of response.

>>129374423
But that's assuming you get antibodies to the specific thing that will kill or allow for the killing of the cancer, and assuming they can get into the blood from the gut without being denatured and assuming that the immune system doesn't bind it up.

It'd be incredibly inefficient since you'd really only get one go at this attempt because once your immune cells in the mucosa of your gut are exposed to these antibodies, they will make antibodies that will be available in all of the mucosa of your body.

Injection would be a much more efficient route, but again, the antibodies would have to make it to the cancer before your immune system destroyed them, and they'd need to be purified.

Likelihood of getting cancer skyrockets like mad as you get older.

>>129324287
>No actual medical journals
Nice try, schlomo

>>129375242
well, they new the positive effects of this in 1959

UNUSUAL 'CURE' OF A CANCER CITED; Blood of Melanoma Victim Helped Second Sufferer, Two Physicians Report

The strange disappearance of cancer in a patient who had received about half a pint of blood from a woman who had spontaneously "recovered" from the same disease was reported here yesterday.

http://www.nytimes.com/1959/04/03/archives/unusual-cure-of-a-cancer-cited-blood-of-melanoma-victim-helped.html