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Weed isn't bad if done to a minimum (i.e. You share a joint

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Weed isn't bad if done to a minimum (i.e. You share a joint with a buddy once every six months. A joint is about .4-.7 grams). All of you think it's degenerate because of propaganda. I find it ironic that /pol/ claims to be red pilled but they always fall for blatant propaganda. Also some of you think it's degenerate because you're shut in NEETS who cut themselves from the outside world, so you have no connections to get it because of your autism.
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>>129241489
Heck its not bad if you do it every 2-3 weeks with a 1 gram joint
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>>129241489
I smoke about a gram a week. Its degenerate. Grow up.
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>>129241489
Most of /pol/ doesn't give a fuck about weed or they smoke it themselves.
>you have no connections to get it because of your autism
Nigger anyone who wants to smoke weed can, we're not all living in singapore, you're not tapped into some underground criminal syndicate because you know someone who resells shit they pick up at the dispensary. A mute autistic child could find weed in 30 minutes.
Fuck off. Saged.
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I do it like once a year, after the gym, after ive eaten, with a giant Coffee.
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>>129242603
I smoke a one hitter maybe 2 times a day, about .08 of weed or less, one hit, feel good for a while

the people that smoke 4.8 in one sitting are the problem
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>>129243188
ye and people that use it a crutch, it should either be a passive thing or a reward for a week of hard work
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I take about two hits off of my vape every night, really helps the old insomnia. A gram lasts me over a month.
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>>129242911

>white kid reselling shit they get from a dispensary

99% chance here it either came from a nigger or across the boarder
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Maybe OP and the faggots on this board should just stop with the god complex and stop telling other adults what they should do. Weed isn't hurting anyone, and never will. It's a mildly psychoactive plant that has beneficial medicinal effects for pain and anxiety.

I work 12 hour shifts 4 days a week, and usually at the end of those shifts I come home, turn on some music, and eat a few pot gummy worms. Pet my dog, cook dinner. There's nothing wrong with it.

I know people who smoke grams of cannabis a day and function just fine, they go to work and pay their taxes. Others I know can barely take a few hits out of a bong and get loopy. It's all subjective. The point is that keeping marijuana illegal does nothing other than benefit criminals, as we have seen with the prohibition of alcohol and literally every other banned substance. Marijuana is the biggest cash crop in America and isn't going anywhere, if you don't like it, I don't care because I don't know you and you're likely not very informed. I hate people who get belligerently drunk every weekend, and yet that is a norm in American culture and actually does cause harm to society. People getting in fights, driving home drunk, alcohol poisoning, etc.

You fucking losers need to let responsible adults live their lives and worry about your own. There's lots of serious problems that are degenerating society, a plant which is impossible to overdose or harm yourself on isn't one of them. Grow up.
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>>129242965
You only eat once a year?
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>>129241489
I can't wait til i'm off probation for my dwi and I can smoke week again. I'm a raging alcoholic
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>>129244282
everyone i know up here with a medical card also sells
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>>129241489
>>129242603
>>129243188

Jesus Christ it's a slippery slope isn't it.
The fact that you think you have to limit it to once every 6 months MIGHT be a sign that it's not so great yeah?
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Weed raises Estrogen levels:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone):
http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6818588
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389568/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405

Weed Smokers Have More Violent Convictions:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26961342

Weed Causes Cancer:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846283
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2516340/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4642772/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18238947

Weed Reduces Volume Of Various Regions Of The Brain And Negatively Effects Motivation :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4104335/

Weed Is Addictive:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3606907/

Weed Causes Long Term Cognitive Damage:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19630708
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2484906
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1463999/
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0055821
http://www.pnas.org/content/111/47/16913.full
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3593817/

Weed Causes Depression And Anxiety Disorders:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23795762
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14616175
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032500/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5149055/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26773900
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10750321
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0122896
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0166005#sec013
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Weed Causes Psychotic Disorders:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17007222
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4352721/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033190/

Children of Fathers that Smoke Weed More Likely To Suffer Sudden Infant Death Syndrome:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11434841

Weed Legalisation Results In More Frequent Use:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955395914000206
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0143562

Weed Causes Lung Damage:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16128224
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24384575
https://www.nature.com/articles/npjpcrm201671
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2094297/
http://monaldi-archives.org/index.php/macd/article/view/645/633

Secondhand Weed Smoke Impairs Psychomotor Function And Working Memory:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747424/

Weed Worsens Symptoms Of Social Anxiety Disorder:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3350824/

Weed Causes Deficits In Dopamine Release:
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v22/n1/full/mp201621a.html
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>>129244697

I am nowhere near a medicinal state or the northern border and have to interact with felons and retards to buy it

feels bad man
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>>129241489
I'm high all the time but I always take one puff of a joint. If I'm not satisfied with that I stop using until I am.
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>>129241489

First of all, a join is about a gram unless you are poor as fuck. Second of all, like alcohol, it's fine as long as you do it in moderation and only during your personal free time.

Like most likes, as long as you make sure to keep the important things first and foremost you can do what ever you want withing moderation.
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>>129244948
I guess its different from person to person.
Some(me) take it sometimes when hanging out with friends, some to sleep better without having to take pills. As long as it doesnt effect your ability to work and communicate. Its not a good feeling to be foggy all the time.
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Weed is for niggers
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>>129245111
>here are five studies that prove inhaling smoke is harmful

wwow
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>>129245269
thats tough. i was selling the shit at 17 and im a pretty average college student. good friend of mine started selling at 16 and hes in his 3rd year engineering now. More people smoke green than ciggies around here
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>>129245062
Oh hey look, it's this potato nigger who always posts these totally bunk scientific studies and obviously doesn't understand that everyone of those studies you posted is trash science and not reproducible.

Maybe you should worry about alcohol, after all that actually does kill people, to the tube of millions of people world wide. Probably tens of thousands in your own country. You don't see homeless panhandlers out there begging for weed money, when I went to Dublin though I sure did see a few homeless drunks with liquor bottles in their hands. Maybe you should read an actual book about marijuana rather than the same old cherry picked studies that aren't worth a damn.
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>>129245549
Most people that smoke weed literally believe the opposite to be true lmao
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"You have no connections to weed" man, you sound fuckin lame. Stop making the rest of us look bad. Grow some balls, try crystal
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>>129245379
>a joint is about a gram
Actually a joint is however big you decide to roll it. Did you get that info from 5th grade DARE class?
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>>129245783
>bunk
Care to explain why?

>not reproducible
HAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA do you even know what that means?

Also I don't drink, and drinking is terrible for your health and degenerate
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imagine being from ireland and trying to convince people online not to smoke weed

maybe yoy should try it seamus if your foul ginger women and low iq piss poor alcoholic men bore you to this extent lmao
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>makes long ass redundant post about the "dangers" of marijuana
>plenty of if not not all other drugs have proven them self to be worse for the mind minus mushrooms
Helps me go to sleep and pass time while reading of gaming. Faggots who declare degeneracy probably smoke cigarettes and/or drink
Tbh nobody who browses this website makes more than $50k a year and work some shit tier job in sales
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>>129245875
uhh no. weed is harmful. Pot heads know it too. doesnt mean it should be prohibited. i think youre talking about niggers
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>>129245893
Actually dispensaries sell 1 gram joints and the vast majority of people dont bother to roll any less because its the perfect amount to get a nice thicc J. Only poor people and teens roll <1g joints
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>>129245893
Have you never smoked weed? It's literally impossible to wrap under a one gram joint. You always grind up more bud than you intended to, and it all of course has to be put into the joint.
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>>129246068
An overwhelming amount of people believe weed is good for your lungs.

>>129246053
>not all other drugs have proven them self to be worse for the mind minus mushrooms
HAHAHAAH wtf I dont even know where to begin

>Faggots who declare degeneracy probably smoke cigarettes and/or drink
Don't smoke, don't drink, try again.

>>129246046
I agree. Irish people are ugly and alcoholics are retarded. Good thing I'm not Irish.
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>>129241489
I have Crohn's. I use weed once in a while. Helps me sleep. I guess I use about as much in 6 months, as the average American pothead college dude uses in a week.

Also, I do not drink alcohol or any other drugs. I do a lot of sport and I hold a steady job. I guess that weed hasn't affected me AT ALL.
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>>129246556
>An overwhelming amount of people believe weed is good for your lungs.
What the fuck is wrong with Irish people
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>>129242911
>A mute autistic child could find weed in 30 minutes.
I can find it within 15 seconds. I am not even mute.
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>>129246375
Speak for yourself. I can roll one as small as a quarter gram or as big as 2 grams with one paper. Why would you assume everyone is as shitty at rolling as you are?
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Recreational markets should be illegal. Medical markets and decriminalization are the way to go. It's degenerate because of the association with degenerate nigger culture which never shuts up about their mids being "fire". Weed culture should not be promoted, end the 420 memes and bob marley everything.
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>>129246556
Lol the fuck would an Italian know about drugs. Probably a muzzie who got "integrated in society"
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>>129246643
Have you honestly never heard that before? Spend 2 seconds googling and you'll find loads of people claiming weed is good for your lungs.

They all cite a study saying your lung capacity is sometimes increased when you smoke weed, (because holding in large volumes in your lungs increases your lung size) but by every single other measure weed smoke damages lungs
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>>129246661
Yeah it's different when your country constantly imports boatloads of drug dealers
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>>129246367

smoking a gram by yourself in a join is degenerate

they roll them big so you fuck your tolerance and have to spend more $
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>>129246757
I'm not italian either. I'm white.
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https://youtu.be/7P2fJ4iuxTo p
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>>129246856
No one in real life has declared to me that cannabis smoke is beneficial for lungs. We just smoke and talk about other things.
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>>129246367
>Poor because i smoke in modest amounts
you sound like a nigger. Do you brag to your friends about how much you can smoke it a sitting?
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>>129241489
>Weed isn't bad if done to a minimum
Why do it at all?
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>>129246556
>An overwhelming amount of people believe weed is good for your lungs.
what kind of people do you hang around with..?
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>>129247161

it is less damaging to my body than drinking

>why drink

what is your vice? everyone has one
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>>129247092
Okay? You do realise that you aren't the center of the universe though, right?
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If you want to smoke something
Smoke.
A.
Cigar.
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>>129247291
Google "weed good lungs" you'll find pages and pages of people saying smoking weed is good for your lungs. It's a very common belief.
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>>129247291

saying it is "good for your lungs" is fucking retarded but it definitely is better than cigs which might be what they are getting at

i can smoke a bong all day every day and feel fine. smoke tobacco once and instant flemmy cough
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>>129246725
Once you smoke more often than every other weekend you notice that accidents... happen... while rolling. Especially when you're rolling your friend's weed.


>>129247416

Exactly, and neither are you. It just means Irish people believe in stupid things.
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>>129247294
But it's not less damaging than drinking, and its more degenerate. Why choose to ingest a drug that makes you low energy when you could ingest a drug that makes you high energy?
You're castrating yourself for no reason.

I don't do either but I can see why alcohol is legal and weed isn't.
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>>129241489
>A joint is about .4-.7 grams

m8 its not a joint its a fucking monster
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>>129247547
>>129247473
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>>129247511
i smoke it every day. it doesnt do much to me physically but im not retarded enough to say its healing my lungs.
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Weed makes you libertarian.
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>>129247511
Tobacco raises testosterone though, Weed lowers testosterone and raises eostrogen
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>>129247418
>Not smoking a pipe

IShiggydiggy
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>>129247547
I dont roll joints often but when i do, i just dump some in and roll it up and however big it is, thats what it is. If some falls out then i put it back in my buster
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I hate stoners. They are annoying as fuck. So sensitive and a little arrogant. Shitty drug for shitty people... Like all drugs that aren't taken by prescription and in the recommended dosage. Fuck stoners
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>>129247615
There's more to life than being in a high energy state 247. There's room for simultaneous existence of other things too.

>>129247656
I know, but it's irrelevant to what I was trying to point out to you.
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>>129247791
Cool. Cutting off your legs makes you lose weight did u know that?
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>>129242603
>>129242811

i do it multiple times a week and i make 6 figures, own a house, am married/have kids, and just started grad school.

degenerates will be degenerate with or without weed.
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>>129247871
disgusting
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>>129247682
its true, I grew up sjw communist but steadily smoked the statism out of my system.

Im cured now but I still take cannacaps in the morning and smoke just to be safe.
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>>129247965
I'm not promoting tobacco I'm just saying it'd be better if you smoked tobacco than if you smoked weed because at least tobacco doesn't turn you into a skinny girly fuck
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>>129247935
Okay, you do realise the purpose of low energy states is to regain energy though? Why would you intentionally induce that state when it's not required?
You're forcing your body to rest when it's not meant to be resting, and making your eyes red so it looks like you've been crying like a little bitch and raises estrogen so you turn into a skinny little girl
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>>129248092
>at least tobacco doesn't turn you into a skinny girly fuck
Bit of a stretch to claim that
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>>129247615

1- bullshit. alcohol is many fold more degenerate and destructive

2- because after work i want to relax, eat and go to bed
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>>129247473
god youre such a brainlet. /pol/ should have an iq requirement to be able to post
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>>129248092
I've recently used weed to become more aware of my posture and musculature. I stand in a way that makes me look significantly more athletic and masculine now. I smoke strictly energizing weed though.
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>>129247682
It made me a liberatarian then I advanced to NatSoc.
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There's a reason the stereotype of a weed smoker is some skinny dude with long hair, it's because weed raises eostrogen.

If you smoke weed you're half way towards being a fucking tranny.
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>>129248330
AHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA
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I don't blame people who think it's degenerate because the vocal minority of the "community" are absolutely degenerates. I don't respect stoners the same way I don't respect alcoholics, or addicts of other drugs. That doesn't mean that i'm not going to engage in any of those things in moderation.

Although cannabis abuse can definitely 100% destroy your life just as completely as any hard drug addiction, it's made so much worse by how many people genuinely believe that just because it's "safe" you can smoke all day every day with no side effects.
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>>129241489
tfw smoke and get drunk every day
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>>129247791

>get cancer, have a stroke, high blood pressure and heart disease to increase my testosterone
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>>129248256
>Why would you intentionally induce that state when it's not required?

Ah, but you are no one to say when it is required. Weed is not a single-dimensional substance. It has different purposes in different contexts.

The estrogenizing effect of weed is largely, if not fully, offset by the full context of your lifestyle. I live extremely healthily, so I can take a bit abuse.
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>>129248363
Oh i didn't know that fat or short haired male stoners don't exist; thanks for the enlightenment.
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>>129248524
>Cancer
Weed causes that
>High blood pressure
Weed causes that, even hardcore stoners don't deny that, they act like it's a good thing lmao
>Heart disease
Weed causes that

You're literally half way to being a fucking trainer if you're a stoner
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>>129248645
Oh I didn't know that fat or short haired women don't exist
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>>129244282
>make website for dispensary
>25% off everything
>buy Oz 160, sell 320

I don't even have a card.
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>>129245062
Your message would be better received if you weren't such a cunt. You sound like you're 12 with the pedantic responses to each thing that refutes your point. People can and will do whatever they want and no cunty study citing twat is going to change that (especially with that tone).
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>>129248387
Demonstration of how I used to stand vs how I stand now
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>>129248842
are you retarded or just trolling?
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>>129248643
Okay, you do realise that by stating the need to offset the detrimental effects you are actually agreeing with me?
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>>129248798
>>Cancer

Smoking anything causes that, there are a bunch of ways to ingest weed without it being carcinogenic

>>High blood pressure
>>Heart disease

So do half the things humans consume every day. Obviously if you live an unhealthy lifestyle then weed is going to exacerbate your issues but it won't make a healthy person unhealthy.
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>>129248999
get off this thread please, youre clearly an angry autistic tennager
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>>129248886
Philippines got it right

>>129248912
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHA
What the fuck does that have to do with weed?
I saw a prostitute and it inspired me to do the same thing, is prostitution now good?
I killed and ate a kid and it inspired me to become a professional chef, is murder good now?
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>>129248912

mental illness.jpg
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>tfw badly addicted
heh I still like it
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>>129241489
>You share a joint with a buddy once every six months
hahahahaha get fucked kid
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>>129249071
There are a bunch of ways to ingest nicotine without it being carcinogenic.

And the other two are the same as tobacco, so you are literally agreeing with me. The factor that makes weed better for you than tobacco is that tobacco raises testosterone while weed raises eostrogen and lowers testosterone turning you into a girly bitch
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>>129249417
I mean your point is kind of offset by the fact that the vast majority of people who smoke weed also smoke tobacco.
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>>129248999
I live healthily because I want to be reasonably healthy, not because I want to offset any effects of the less healthy aspects of my life. On the contrary, I fully accept the consequences.

>>129249209
I found it to be extremely helpful because it gave great temporary amplification in sensorily awareness. It made it more intuitive and easier to get a mental picture of how various parts of my body are spatially related to each other, and to figure out the dysfunctional and imbalanced ways in which I had been carrying my body.

No doubt I would've achieved the same end result without weed too, but it brought significant help nevertheless.
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>>129248993
My point is that Joe Rogan isn't the archetype of a stoner you moron. Just like female competitive bodybuidlers don't prove that women are stronger than men

Weed turns you into a girly fuck
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>>129249326
explain. Perhaps you're just jealous of my alpha frame
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>>129249560
>vast majority
source on that..?
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>>129249628
>I found it to be extremely helpful because it gave great temporary amplification in sensorily awareness. It made it more intuitive and easier to get a mental picture of how various parts of my body are spatially related to each other, and to figure out the dysfunctional and imbalanced ways in which I had been carrying my body.

>tfw achieved the exact same thing through the one time advice of "shoulders back, chest out"
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>>129241489
I go through about an eighth a month. Only been smoking for about two years now. There's propaganda on both sides. Weed won't fuck you up completely and is relatively safe, but smoking for years on end can have some detrimental effects, particularly if you started during adolescence.
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>>129249560
In England and Ireland yeah, not everywhere. Especially in places where it's legal.

I don't see how that matter though, now you have the negative effects of both weed and tobacco without any positive effects, so that's even worse
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>>129249693
You sure its not just that girly fucks are attracted to weed because its a lazy drug?
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>>129249693
If you act that way because you don't smoke pot, you should smoke some pot. It would make you much less insufferable.
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>>129249852
>without any positive effects

Why not? Mixing them doesn't affect that?
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>>129249818
Yeah, just like tobacco and fucking prostitutes. It creeps up on you, I agree.
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>>129241489
I'm cooked all day son try not to take life so seriously cause before you know it you'll be dead and none if it will matter anyways
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i used wEed alot, but ..
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>>129249897
It's been proven to raise eostrogen and lower testosterone. It's literally the same affect as the drugs trannies take to change their gender
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>>129250031
sounds made up
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CBD oil is redpilled.
It relaxes you without turning you into a drooling retard.
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>>129249782
In what color do you want your medal?
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>>129250121
Weed raises Estrogen levels:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone):
http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6818588
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389568/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405
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>>129250031
are you that loser that has the huge list of anti weed nih.gov links?
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>>129250031
>It's literally the same affect as the drugs trannies take to change their gender

Ireland please, don't listen to your fellow citizens.
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>>129250215
>>129250200
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>>129241489
> You share a joint with a buddy once every six months

Why do faggots insist on putting arbitrary limits on things so that they can fall inside those limits and avoid being called a degenerate?

Its painfully transparent.
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>>129250209
Are you that loser that takes that drug that has the same effect as the drugs trannies take as shown in independent studies that AREN'T hosted on .gov websites?
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>>129250200
and the effect is the same as taking tranny drugs huh? no difference at all?
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>>129250288
Same goes for Irish science
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>>129250144
This is true. CBD should be readily available in supplement form.

>>129250432
Good thing that isn't irish science then
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/pol/ confirmed for super brainlets
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>>129250356
It's comforting to divide the infinite present moment into meaningful little categories that make the role with which you've chosen to interact with the surrounding reality a little more convincing to your own self
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>>129248798
im stoned af so i dont care lol id rather live stoned and die from cancer than live sober and die from boredom
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>>129250425
As in they both raise eostrogen and lower testosterone? Yes.
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>>129250725
The reason you find being sober boring is because your dopamine receptors are downregulated from being overstimulated from weed all the time
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>>129250416
Can you provide one case of a cannabis user showing the effects you describe?
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>>129250770
Not what i asked.
>>129250850
News flash: Weed is not an amphetamine.

Ive confirmed that you are indeed retarded.
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>>129250940
wasn't hard lmao
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>>129241489
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>>129241489
lol not a shut in neet nor falling for "propaganda"

I agree if share a joint once in a blue moon isn't all bad, the thing is that is hard to do. Before you know it you're high 24/7, which again isn't too bad if only for like a weekend or a couple weeks... but most people I know smoke day in day out for years! and they are all retards...

i like weed BUT IT IS DEGENERATE
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>>129250850
Yes, this happens, although it is strictly temporary.
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>>129246068
I have no nigger friends but most of mine think it's 10x more healthy for you than smoking cigs or standing near a fire. In Austin tx you hear shit like that all the time and how it helps lung cancer and stuff.

I'm pretty sure most know better but they just like trying to pressure others into doing it or make it seem less harmful to the public.
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>>129251065
Do you think amphetamine is the only psychoactive drug that affects dopamine? Pretty much every drug does.

Study showing weed casues dopamine downregulation:
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v22/n1/full/mp201621a.html

If you smoke weed once a month that's enough to keep them downregulated
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>>129251192
If you smoke more than once a month they'll stay downregulated. Takes about a month to get over.
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>>129251099
a picture of your boyfriend doesn't prove anythin
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Weed was good when it was naturally grown. Now that the jew overlords added their jew chemicals in it to create LSD jr., it's a degenerate drug for losers.
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>>129251065
>News flash: Weed is not an amphetamine.

Just because amphetamines are the only drugs that DIRECTLY affect your dopamine system doesn't mean that every other drug (and/or every other pleasurable activity) doesn't affect it secondarily as well.

Weed can mess with your reward system the same way video games or porn or gambling can, not because it's directly chemically affecting it.
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>>129251176
>but most people I know smoke day in day out for years! and they are all retards...

I think many of them are in perpetual process of quitting. They may realize that they have to quit, but allow themselves to buy just one bag more, then this continues on and on for months. It's relatively easy to realize when you're bordering the line of abuse with weed, but actually taking action is much harder. You never want to leave a warm shower in wintertime.
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>>129251349
You've seriously never heard of the long haired skinny weed smoking hippy stereotype? Jesus christ

This is the stereotypical stoner because smoking weed raises eostrogen you're literally on your way to being a fucking tranny
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>>129243188
>this
>same
>based af m8

I really only smoke it because it helps my ADD and anxiety massively. I'm over the whole "dood let's get high cuz we ain't got nothin else better to do"
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>>129251341
Not true, have had several year long breaks. Most people I've asked about it seem to feel bored with everything for 3-6 months and after that the enjoyment in life always returns. I agree.
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>>129241489
I used to smoke weed every day. Now I stopped and when I smoke it just makes me retarded for a couple hours and then I order pizza.
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>>129251581
>a fucking picture of shaggy to argue your point
Pathetic, what drug are you using to cause your retardation?
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>>129248912
dont worry anon weed has helped myself and many others improve their posture in ways they wouldnt have been able to achieve without it (or at least without significant work and guidance with a PT). my posture was abysmal and i'm working hard to correct it daily. smoking amplifies all of my perceptions and makes it 10x easier to make the proper small adjustments which is absolutely crucial towards achieving proper balance
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>>129248000
>degenerates will be degenerate with or without weed.
trips of truth...
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>>129251550
It's not the same as gambling. The cannibinoids in weed block the affect of GABA in the brain which normally inhibit the release of dopamine.

It is, however, like porn, because porn does the same thing. Porn is the only behavioural addiction that is equivalent to drugs like weed or alcohol.
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>>129251735
3-6 months is even longer than I said it was wtf? Stop smoking weed man you have concentration problems.
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no real christians smoke weed

it goes against the basic human conscience to get high on drugs

1 John 2:15-17
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
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Homosexual buttsex isn't bad if done to a minimum (i.e. You share your ass with a buddy once every six months. A penis is about 15-18 centimiters). All of you think it's degenerate because of propaganda. I find it ironic that /pol/ claims to be red pilled but they always fall for blatant propaganda. Also some of you think it's degenerate because you're shut in NEETS who cut themselves from the outside world, so you have no connections to get it because of your autism.
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>>129242911
>A mute autistic child could find weed in 30 minutes
this should be a game show
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>>129251781
My point is the stereotype is so prevalent even TV shows portray it. There's a reason for this. Weed rasies eostrogen, I showed you objective data showing that, so you asked to show me it's prevalent in populations, and I'm showign you that it is.
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>>129245062
I'm sure we could spend all day having a link war, but what people do in their own homes, that harms no other person, is none of your fucking business.
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>>129252153
Oh wow I didn't realize TV portrayed it that way. Must be true.
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>>129252153
>My point is the stereotype is so prevalent even TV shows portray it.

Do you realize how retarded a statement that is?

I'm not necessarily arguing against you, I don't have the evidence to make a judgement either way, but if you think that TV shows portraying a stereotype is evidence for that stereotypes accuracy then you're genuinely retarded.
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>>129252263
You could not spend all day having a link war because there are fuck all studies showing benefits of weed.
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>>129251860
That's interesting to know, thanks for sharing. It's really significant how much sensorily intuition just one hit can give someone who is usually so out of tune with the physical self.

I also recently had a period where I practiced piano improvisation for a couple of weeks and smoked. I feel like I progressed half a year of sober practice during that time. I love learning while high. It's so easy to just to perceive and understand the fundamental core principles that make every activity, mechanism, concept etc the way they are
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>>129241489
>You share a joint with a buddy once every six months.

Gay as fuck. Enjoy your herpes.
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>try weed
>first 3 times are fucking awesome
>after that it's always resulted in a bad trp

I guess I'm done with it.
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>>129251956
I shared my experience and didn't interact with your claim in any way while doing so.
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>>129252380
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>>129252380
Not being able to tax it is not a benefit. People will buy it regardless.
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>>129241489
nothing is terrible in moderation
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>>129252341
>>129252264

Ffs, the only reason I'm showing these is because I already sent objective data showing that's the effect of weed and that guy fucking ASKED for examples, I've given him 2 now, and also made the point that since there is a stereotype, other people have noticed too.

But I shouldn't even need this becuase I already showed evidence of the effect, you're changing your logic just to directly contradict me now.

If I say something is blue because it displays that specific frequency of light you say "oh but show me how its actually, blue, give me an example of blue?"
Then I say "okay fine, its blue like the sky" then you go "Who fucking cares what colour the sky is?! I want to know what colour THAT is!"

And you wonder why people fucking hate stoners?
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>>129245886
Aww, man...that's brilliant.
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>>129241489
Weed is a problem not because it damages body, but it damages perception of the world
It is a drug, but it warps perception of the world and gives escape from reality
It is bad, because it teaches people that they can just run away from their problems, because smoking a joint can make you feel better no matter what happens
Only this is bad aside from propaganda.
A responsible person can smoke from time to time, but it can change your personality in the long run without your knowledge
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>>129252380
>there are fuck all studies showing benefits of weed.

It depends what you mean by benefits, if ypou don't want to count the recreational benefits of it then surely you can still see why more people using weed or weed derivatives for pain is an improvement over them using opiate medications?
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>>129241489

Even moderate alcohol use fucks up the brain.

Quality weed used in incredibly excessive amounts does have negative effects over time. But it takes a lot to get there, and usually people learn the lesson of moderation before that point.

Alcohol is shit. Weed is good. /pol/ hates weed because they think it leads to lefty bullshit, but it isn't the cause of lefty bullshit because there are many rightwingers who use weed. Leftists use youth culture to propagate their ideology, and when weed became a part of youth culture it became a tool of propagation.

The solution is old people, adults, etc, using weed so it is no longer some rebellious cool facet of youth culture, its something old folks do at the nursing home -- laaaaame. Take the tool out of leftists' hands and legalize it.
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>>129252532
You said my claim was "not true", where I said it takes a least a month to upregulate your receptors, but then you say you think it takes 3-6 months? That's over one month, so my claim that it's a least a month IS true.
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>>129246556
>An overwhelming amount of people believe weed is good for your lungs.
No they don't. That's what's been driving the vaporizer industry.
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>>129252824
No shit, that's what moderation means. Everything is terrible in excess because otherwise it wouldn't be in excess.
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>>129241489
Say what you will but I get insanely fiendish with weed. Like a month without and then a week high. I'm not a low functioning guy at all either. I'm working my way through a Ph. D in a STEM field.

Weed can make someome absolutely degenerate, I'm proof. That shit is like mania in plant form for me
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>>129241489
I think weed is pretty great but it really isn't for everyone. Most people respond to it pretty well but then there's the oddball who gets almost psychotic on weed for some reason. It's usually the same people who go nuts while drunk, ie. people with no tolerance, bad self control, addictive personality.

I think the ability to consume psychotropics and still keep it together is a pretty good test of character.
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>>129252736
So? Pills should be illegal too.
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>>129252835
The only thing you've proven is that you will use retarded logic to justify your anti-cannabis stance.
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>>129253097
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>129252835
>and that guy fucking ASKED for examples, I've given him 2 now

Googling "skinny feminine stoner" =/= giving examples of smoking weed causing a feminizing effect
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>>129252981
Because it was not true in my opinion. Did you expect I would dare to make an objective claim in such a subjectively argued exchange of opinions?
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>>129246053
this. recent studies indicate those who profess moral indignation the loudest are compensating for their own severe moral deficiencies.
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>>129253154
Are you a drunken Irishman?
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>>129241489
>Also some of you think it's degenerate because you're shut in NEETS who cut themselves from the outside world, so you have no connections to get it because of your autism.

lol btfo /pol/
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>>129253235
OMG yes it IS true in your opinion you fucking retard!
I said: 2+2=4
You go "NOT True, 2+2 actually is equal to 4"
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>>129246053
Actually I make a little more working in the industry.
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>>129241489
>You share a joint with a buddy once every six months.

this is a total fantasy. this never happens.
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>>129248092
That's the dumbest fucking advice...
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>>129253481
You can't beat me with mathematics. My presence is greater than your absence
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I used to smoke a little bowl before bed for like a year straight.

Idk about anyone else, but that shit is retarded. I feel dumb, guilty, and out of touch. Weed is gay my dudes.
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>>129253192
I already sent you objective data showing it raises eostrogen levels. I don't understand these retarded standards you're holding me to.

What do you want me to do? Find some stoner, and, before this thread ends, periodically check his muscle mass, tone of voice, emotional behaviour and body fat percentage?

OR you could just read the study I posted saying it raises eostrogen levels and if you understand the effect of eostrogen you'd know it does all those things
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>>129253796
How much does it raise estrogen in humans?
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>>129243188

You're right. They are just going overboard trying to Marley it up, because its about the image and act of rebellion, so smoke big and wasteful.

One-hitters are great, also leaning how to inhale and hold to maximize your efficiency.
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>>129241489
fuckin little bitch
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>>129253796
Because a chemical raising estrogen levels does not necessarily mean that it causes a non-negligible feminizing effect. Plenty of chemicals humans come into contact with or ingest every day also do that.
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>>129252153
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>>129253796
If you wanted I could provide pics, but in reality you wouldn't want that because we both know it would invaldiate the premise of your thread.
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>>129243431

One of the hardest working people I know has smoked weed constantly since he was like 12. Its a big part of how he is able to just throw himself completely at whatever task is in front of him, he's a beast. When he gets home from work he smokes and cleans his house, works on his car, etc, he always has to do something when high, and with vigor.
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>>129254100
>>129253861

Enough to cause gynecomastia
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>>129254221
>he always has to do something when high

Same. I feel uncomfortable just sitting around. You become so aware of how you're watching a sitcom with a laugh track and achieving nothing.
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>>129252153

You can't prove weed raises estrogen because you're full of shit.
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>>129254368
hahah I bet you just tried to read your own link and couldn't understand it so you don't even know how much it affects estrogen levels.
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>>129254515
Weed raises Estrogen levels:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

Weed decreases testosterone and growth hormone, tobacco increases them (but also raises cortisol which is a catabolic hormone):
http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6818588
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3389568/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24457405
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>>129248798
>>>High blood pressure
>Weed causes that, even hardcore stoners don't deny that, they act like it's a good thing lmao
http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/marijuana/safety/hrb-20059701
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>>129254552
They didn't say how much it raises it by, they did say it's enough to cause gynecomastia in humans though
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>>129254472

That is part of it, but he smokes all day at work and is in the top 1% highest production numbers in the state. And its a big state. Getting shit done is his entertainment, reward, and weed is just intricately tied into that process.
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>>129241489

Sorry, weed is shit.

You burnouts feel compelled to proselytize. I honestly don't know of another group of people that's more full of try-hard rationalizations.
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>>129254630
It's affect on blood pressure is complicated, in some cases it raises it, in some cases it lowers it. Both are bad for you anyway.
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>>129252444
>piano improvisation for a couple of weeks and smoked.
that's what I'm talking about.
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>>129254742
From your own link

"Given the effects of marijuana on the HPG
axis in males and the possibility that noncannabinoid
components of marijuana smoke have affinity to the estrogen
receptor,6 an association with gynecomastia is
plausible but has not been convincingly demonstrated"
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Don't grow your own pot, that's bad! Buy jew tylenol for your headaches. It's (((approved))).
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>>129254806
Your friend sounds like he has some kind of mental disorder.
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>>129254602

Oh you mean those government studies that are financed to create ridiculous disinfo about marijuana? The ones ginned up by hack "scientists" in order to keep the big bucks rolling in to their bank accounts?
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>>129254742
>They did say it's enough to cause gynecomastia in humans though

Surely you realize how substanceless a statement like that is. The more you generalize the less you provide useful infromation. There is nothing that specifically causes something in every context. Everything depends on the context. Everything. And your statement fails to provide any.
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>>129248912
>Demonstration of how I used to stand vs how I stand now
looking good anon
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>>129255049
All he has is a list of links and misinformation.
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>>129241489
weed is fucking degenerate.

end of story.
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>>129254955
The best form of interactive meditation I've tried
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>>129241489
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>>129254991
mä ain kuumotan. mä ain kuumotA!
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>>129241489
Smoke weed eberyday brah. Feels good. I remember I used to refuse it when people offered.
>>129242965
Its good after a long hard day. If you sit at home and do smoke all day its not as good
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>>129254967

BTFO an idiot with their own citations.

Holy shit.
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I smoke a few blunts and smoke the bong daily
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>>129255114
thanks friendo
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>>129255049
>>129255138
They referred to two studies, one showed a positive correlation with gynecomastia and one didnt.
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>>129241489
what's the actual point of smoking half a joint twice a year, that's like having a half pint twice a year.
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>>129255020

There are many, many productive weed users. You just don't know this because it doesn't fit your bias.
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>>129245062
>Weed Is Addictive
>Weed Causes Cancer
Kys
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>>129248000
B-but what else am i going to use to blame others for my own failures and jealousy?
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>>129255350
>Marijuana has been associated
with the development of gynecomastia in an
early case series

From the same article. Two different studies found different results. Which makes sense because gynecomastia are extreme symptoms.

Still even if theyre right, thats only a MINOR victory for weedfags, since regardless weed still raises estrogen. Enough to shrink the testicles of dogs and rats ahahah
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>>129255809
OH and FYI, I used to smoke weed, I stopped a year ago and have noticed my balls are a lot bigger now
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>>129255576
No it sounds like your friend has some sort of dopamine deficieny, or GABA related genetic disorder.

Did his parents drink alcohol when they were pregnant with him?
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>>129255809
Letting your body get fucked up to the point of deveoloping gynecomastia is completely the patients own fault. Fundamentally it is a lifestyle disorder, and therefore qualifiable for darwin award.

If you let yourself get gynecomastia, look in the mirror, it's you that is causing it
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>>129248912

I stand like the right because long ago when I was around 12 my mother told me to walk with my shoulders back. I'm barrel-chested too, it was great advice. People treat you based on your body language. Some have criticized me that I "walk around like you own the place or are a badass". The only people it irritates are the insecure fuckers that don't want anybody around them to exhibit confidence. It makes a huge fucking difference, keep it up bro.
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>>129256080
Yeah I agree. People that smoke weed and then get fucked up deserve it. Totally agree.
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A lot of weed threads lately. Somethings up. I think somethings gotta be done.
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>>129256401

>>129255461
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Oh fugg i can't link wtf
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>>129255985
>No it sounds like your friend has some sort of dopamine deficieny, or GABA related genetic disorder.
This, even if true, doesn't change the validity of the comment you're replying to. Both ill and healthy people can derive same benefits.

>>129256277
Ultimately you deserve everything that happens to you. Every action is a risk, which becomes either worth it or not depending on the nature of your unique reality.
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weed's a total Jew, this from a long term former user.

it wants you to smoke it 24/7, it gives you a 2-3 hour buzz, then you get an empty feeling after, that is only quenched through a sleep or more weed.

I used to love it, smoke it every night, but since hitting 30 it I just stopped enjoying it, and since stopping a few years ago I feel like a better, mentally quicker, stronger, healthier version of me.

You can have some great thoughts, it slows your thinking down and gives you a more thinky frame of mind, but once it's worn off you forget all that shit like it never happened.

Just my feels, that it's a waste of time, money, and life.
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>>129244296
this 100%
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>>129255985

He's fine, he's a go-getter. See, Americans are the descendants of the risk-takers who left the European farms and worked their asses to build the greatest country in the world. Meanwhile you are descended from the fuckers that thought sitting on their asses and eating potato fungus was the better option, so I can see how you have this mental block.
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>>129241489
>once every six months
why smoke at all then?
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>>129256565
I'm not Irish.

And I love America but don't kid yourself, you're mostly criminals and insane people we didnt want, mixed with a tiny bit of explorer, and some of that potato fungus you hate so much thrown in.

I'm 100% anglo saxon pure bred.
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take shrooms or dmt if you want a real introspective meaningful experience.
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>>129256196
Yes exactly. Bringing pelvis forward and neck back is equally important too, as is keeping the core contracted. Otherwise you look pudgy and cocky instead of confident and attractive
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>>129256759
>struggling to form a coherent sentence and shitting the bed

"meaningful experience"
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>>129256533

Aren't you glad you abused relatively-harmless cannabis instead of alcohol or other harmful drugs, which you would've had cannabis not been around. Because the issue was with you, not whatever you self-medicated with. Be glad you didn't destroy yourself in the process, cannabis literally saved your life.
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potheads over 25 become the dullest, most humourless, arrogant, childlike sanctimonious libtards to be around. They think it turns them into socrates, they feel like that, but they look like cringeworthy twats.

Over generalising but that's the only way to keep it short.
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>>129257004
Jesus christ . . .
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>>129256806

Hmmm good advice I'll try to be mindful of it. Basically walk with your cock leading the way?
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>>129257069
>They think it turns them into socrates,
This is what really happens in my case though
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>>129257004
yeah, I never used to drink, just smoke, now I have a can of beer every 2 or 3 days, I'm definitely glad I abused weed rather than alcohol as a youth, or any other drug. Good point.
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>>129257212
Kind of, yes. Doing so also brings your balls away from the heat of the inner thighs, which is not a bad thing for your hormonal function.
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>>129241489

If you take any sort of mind altering chemical recreationally you are a weak willed degenerate retard but considering people literally drink and smoke themselves to death might as well let them get high too.
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>>129257221
>>129257004

Yeah my father was an alcoholic and beat me daily. Good thing it kept him away from heroin though, which he would have used otherwise, glad he only destroyed his liver instead of his brain with heroin. Alcohol saved his life.
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>>129241489
high quality and you can smoke a brick
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>>129248000
Fucking THIS. I own a construction company, do pretty well for myself, smoke an eighth of an ounce a week. Just don't be a degenerate. It's a decision.
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>>129242603
found the complete pussy who can't handle his alcohol
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it's a clever plant that makes people worship it
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>>129257535
Fool, it is already degenerate to even think of letting yourself be entertained by this prison we call life.

>>129257694
Considering how his life would've ended sooner and you would've received a few fists less, it would've been what could generally be called a good arrangement.
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>>129257221

I said it because I am similar, I abused it and no longer smoke, but I am so glad I learned the lesson of moderation with cannabis without seriously damaging myself. Plus the entire process and introspection from cannabis helped me become aware of why I was self-medicating,
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What is it with stoners thinking that if you dont smoke weed that means you HAVE to drink? Wtf? Why?

Only a degenerate moron thinks like that.
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>>129257694
heroin is arguably better than alcohol.
You got what you deserved you statist fuck.
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>>129258139
If people are going to burn any leaf, I'd rather it be you.
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>>129257694

Too bad he didn't smoke cannabis instead of drink alcohol, he wouldn't have been so out-of-control and violent towards you, nor damaging his brain making him a bigger hassle for you to deal with in his later years.
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>>129258314
Weed causes brain damage.
And how about he doesnt do any drugs at all instead of acting like a degenerate loser?
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>>129241489
ATTN:

Goys I mean guys here's a new thread for you to comment in after you're finished with this one.

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>>129257694

Actual unadulterated heroin does way way way less damage than alcohol. If he were a junkie he'd be nodding off not beating you. Maybe neglecting you but not abusing you. The crime etc that comes with it is the lifestyle of being addicted to an illegal drug you can't afford. I know in the UK there are programs that give heroin laced cigarettes to addicts and they don't have to engage in crime to maintain their fix. I don't agree with that practice, but I do agree that it proves the point.
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>>129258083
yeah, it chilled me out a lot, that's why I liked it, I was a bit of an angry kid growing up, that took that out of me, and made me a nicer happier person. But now it just literally turns me into a stone that can't do anything except listlessly watch TV and eat everything in the house in an unquenchable need for blood sugar lol.

And the mates who still do it become more and more shut in and stuck in a time warp.

Idk, it was good, but now it's a Jew. Maybe that's the way it's supposed to be, just for your youth. Maybe my life would have gone bad without chilling myself out with it. Maybe once you're chilled out, you don't need it anymore, and it then gets in the way. I feel much better without it now though, in my mid 30's
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>>129241489
I just started legally growing come at me
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>filling the body with toxins for temporary satisfaction

Absolutely degenerate
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>>129258396

You just keep spouting bullshit misinfo obsessively, I seriously think you have a mental issue.
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>>129252444
I have scoliosis which has caused a myriad of other physical issues. I had a laughable sense of balance, completely convoluted sense of movement, was slouching over all the time, etc and this all became normalized over the years because I only recognized it as simply having scoliosis at the time.
The first time I smoked I instantly realized how absurd this was. Sure, I might not be able to correct my actual spine’s curvature but I can sure as hell prevent it from destroying every single facet of my alignment even more than it already had. Shoulders were off, hips were off, both my arms and legs extended at different lengths and I placed pressure on them unevenly, etc.
And such the daily struggle of working on my alignment kicked off. The times I make the most progress come from when I’ve smoked the perfect amount where I can feel each individual muscle of my body moving when I concentrate on it. I’m in harmony with my body and can understand what muscles are being used and how they’re interacting with surrounding ones. With this I’m able to understand why exactly sitting or standing in a certain position is incorrect and then am able to adjust to better form. It’s a long road but there’s no doubt weed helps me make progress leaps and bounds ahead of being sober.
Anyway, sorry for the blog and nice trips
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>>129258824
>>129258824

Same. But I will use it when I'm in a old folks nursing home for pain and to make life less shitty feeling. And a little bit here and there to instantly relax at the start of a vacation to maximize my decompression time.
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>>129245062
The only one that concerned me was increasing estrogyne and decreasing testosterone. I like being violent, we're all going to die [cancer], I've become more motivated than ever since smoking weed [negativly effects motivation], don't have a addictive personality [smoked like a animal for a year straight and stopped without a care in the world, long term cognitive damage? 7 years and I haven't noticed a misstep in solving puzzles my perceptual habits etc I'm still the same kid I was when I was 15 (I know I'm immature). Never had depression in my life, and helps my anxiety... so back to estrogen and testosterone - since smoking it's given my a lot of opportunity to think and get serious about life, one way of which is health and fitness - I adopted a workout regime said to increase testosterone - getting frighteningly buff, more body hair deeper voice, pimples on my face again [its like I activated puberty again] so If that articles true [which I doubt as it was suspiciously lacking] I guess I negated it and still pushing in the +T region.

Why are you doing this shill? paid? are you scared of cannabis? have you ever smoked?
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>>129259178

Get into yoga bro. Not for the yoga bullshit but for the muscular-skeletal manipulation and alignment. You will have positive results. I'm sure there is some kind of kinesiology-focused personal yoga instructor in your area that could tell you exactly what poses will address each part of your problems. Just know what you want when you see them and be clear you don't want the Le Yoga routine you want a specific results oriented routine.
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>>129241489
>1 post by this ID

bait much?
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>>129241489
/pol/ hates weed because leftists like it. They'll NEVER shit on speed or coke because it's popular with far right youth culture.

It all goes down to downers and hallucinogens being "lazy","hippie" and "lethargic" while uppers are "productive" and "invigorating". A hippie leftist will go on for hours about peace and love through weed and will appear lazy.

The use is thus associated with a lethargic mindset. On the other end, anything that makes you hyped up and energetic and ready to do things and be "productive" is reminiscent of the ideology.

There is no peace, just do do do, accumulating into a mindset that retained individuality. That increase in aggressiveness, a false idea of ambition. It suites their ideology, it seems like a drug that enforced the core ideas of national socialism.

This is basically what goes on here, anyone who tries to say it is over personal health is lying.
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pol can keep being autistic about weed but if trump legalized it it would be one of the smartest moves he could make
>accomplish what the left has been trying to do for decades
>cut the costs of the drug war and divert police to more important issues
>muh state taxes
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>>129244296
>and yet that is a norm in American culture and actually does cause harm to society.

not only is it the norm it's actively pushed as a consumer product, with ads and focus groups for marketing and shieeet

I'll still smoke and drink beer though yolo
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>>129248999
The only real detrimental thing is getting busted and listening to dipshits like you
>>129249904
kek
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I don't like being high, did that in college, being silly with friends, being stoned off your griddle or often is childish admittedly. I like the occasional burn inhale of cannabis the size of a grain of rice for a little relaxation when I need it [vs having a beer].
>>129258894
Then stop drinking, eating sugar, coffee, junk food, yata yata yata, you degenerate.
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I enjoy it in moderation. I have no problem allowing myself this tiny bit of degeneracy. Helps me stay away from alcohol (alcoholic) and doesn't impact my work ethic, plus my family doesn't care.
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>>129261322

Yeah Trump legalizing weed would be fun just for the cognitive dissonance on the left, it'd be like killing the TPP all over again, just awkward silence... but with a lot of normy support gained.
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>>129249693

Your archetype isn't really an archetype, its just a caricature in your head.
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>>129257694
I wish he would have knocked some sense into you. Your irrational zealotry makes more sense now.
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>>129241489
The only proof you need is that it's attacked in every country...HARD.
Some countries can even kill you for it, but do nothing about alcohol and tobacco. That's the only explanation your need.
Just ask yourself why the big goverments and the ((them)) are against it.
It's because it actually has the potential to open up your mind. As a master plant, when used correctly, it helps to deconstruct some things. It can help people see that they are conditioned.
It can actually help you start taking the red pills
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>>129241489

>tfw have some 32% cookies
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>>129246909

Imply Italians aren't white...? Ever heard of the Roman Empire?
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>>129247682

I found libertarianism before I found weed but I think there is an overlapping correlation that can exist (though not all libertarians smoke that's for sure). I find that most weed smokers are either libertarian left or libertarian right as opposed to authoritarian left or authoritarian right. I don't find many authortarians that toke up besides SJWs I guess but they often do that for image/rebellion reasons just like the colored hair thing.
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