PART II - Dutch Illuminati Banker Ronald Bernard Exposes the

>>129235606
Can't watch now cos I'm out.
Basic gestalt?
Also, why the fuck did they wait so long to release part 2?

>>129236161
I haven't watched the whole thing myself yet. At this point he's just describing more of the inner mechanics of the top 8500

>>129236161
>that feel when dutch and can listen without watching

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Part 1 was pretty good

Hurray! Bump for child swordsmen.

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>>129235606
Comfy vidya for lonely Friday night

>>129235606
bis has a interesting logo.

wanst it debunked as fake? nobody knows the guy or has any proof he was involved

>>129240639
There's no way of knowing. Some people believe it's a scam basically.

>>129240639
no, you shill fuck

>>129235606

inb4 this guys actually a no-namer and none of his claims are verified in any way

Some of these things doesn't make sense.
1) if inflation is theft, is deflation then handouts?
Japan had deflation for a periode.
2) No one is going to lend you money for free; why would they? what does anyone stand to gain to lend you money for a house if they don't stand to gain anything.
3) It make no sense for "people" to create their on money, I cant just say I have 10 mio and then assume other people respect that I have 10 mio. Only larger entities, whom is "believable" can create money.

(I'm only half-way through it, just my preliminary thoughts)

Oy vey shut this down!!!

>>129235606
He studied behaviour and how it's used to deceive. He's fucking lying.

>>129240793
>(((((Some)))))) people

Fixed

Oy veh shut it down its all f-fake , goyim

>>129240639
He seems pretty genuine.. Doesn't mean that his "narrative" or interpretation of the world is real. Even people in the inner circles can have different understanding of the same events.

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>>129235606

"the cost of gas increases, does not mean it cost more, it means your salary is worth less"

"inflation is theft"

The bible literally talked about interest rates being evil, this guy is saying interest rates are reason banks are so evil. The practice of interest. Islamic banks outlawed interest rates, and back then catholics banned interest rates and was punishable by death

rea;;y makes ya think

>>129241483


Aaaaaaaand
The first shills are already checking in

>d-dont trust him goy, thieving child sacrificinng kikes and their shabbo sgois? ARE YOU CRAZY?!

>>129242001
Believe what you want to believe. And above all, believe you can't change it. Fucking duck!

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>>129242176
you shills are getting sloppy...

This mother fucker looks like Paul Whitehouse.

>>129242867
You common burgers still don't speak more than 1 language.

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>>129241212
4) Vaccines are a ploy to earn money? No its not.. Avian flu and swine flu were a real menace. Just because someone made money out of it, doesn't mean it wasn't a real hazard.
5) Voting is a plot to make people believe they have an influence. Voting does matter, not every party is the same, there are a difference. If Hillary had won, there would have been a real political difference - like in healthcare, in comparison to if Trump had won.
Some parties will tax you higher and spend more money on unemployed; others will tax you lower and spend less money on social benefits.

Wtf?

>>129235606
Nice, i'm actually quite surprised i haven't seen this discussed here more.

I would say I agree with his story for around 95% (some small details not, but too small to mention) as someone regularly involved with banks via (risk management) consultancy.

If Dutch people here want to know more about how the ESM works, find 'Het EURO evangelie' by Arno Wellens and Jort Kelder.

>>129244381
I should mention it's 'Het EURO evangelie deel II'

>>129244381
The Greek crisis was a trove for the ESM because of all the money that the trojka lend them, most of it went to banks and almost everything that was left, went to the ESM.

He breaks things down pretty well. The hierarchy of the banks and governments is something that I don't think is totally new information but there hasn't really been someone who has said there are ~8000 people pulling the strings of the BIS and then explain how the orders are given out through the hierarchy of banks and gov'ts. Obviously the really interesting information is who the 8,000 are, finding out their motivations, beliefs.. If they are really satanic baby eaters, reptilians, demons, or whatever.

NEDERLANDS IS ZULK 'N OETLULLEN TAAL!

>>129245040
Explaining how we are getting ripped off by this system is also huge but and it was part of why Ron Paul was such a big deal because a lot of people became red pilled on central banking in 2008-2012. Unfortunately this focus has kind of died away in recent years and is actually pretty important when we talk about the future of our race or society or whatever.

>>129245217
Some polish guy told me Dutch sounded like the person talking was constantly choking.

>>129245423
"Zie daar jouw taak!" It's expressions such as that that make me want to puke in my soup.

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>>129241701
i knew that they were behind it all along.

Bump,

Wtf is with all the sliding. Only stupid threads are constantly bumped.

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>>129246894

b-b-because

Wat 'ie zegt is allemaal waar.

well,about the vaccines part:
in italy a decree wich obliges children to take 12 (previously it was like 3 or 4) fucking vaccines has been recently approved,1 week ago.
the minister of health is mad woman with a degree in literature.
parents everyewere are mad about this and are protesting,but tv,journals,media are sayng that those who oppose it are conspiratorsand a danger to society.
this world is a fucking shit.

>>129243940
>Wtf?

This guy has no idea what he is talking about ,and just advertising for the new book deal he got.

Not even making this up

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>>129246894

All this has a very long history. Willem van Oranje was the first to allow private banks and was consequently finished.

>>129245827
>poland complaining about other languages.
your soup tastes like puke anyway.

>>129247951
>tfw the Netherlands has been secretly the center of this world all this time.

>>129247982
Oh hahaha. When't the Hollandse Nieuwe? That's the only thing I miss about your puny little fuck of a country. Bijgoochem.

>>129248126
This is the truth.

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>>129248226
Soon.

>>129241701
(((Interest rates)))

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bump

>>129242879
top kek

>how does it feel being the lowest of the low goys?
i still don't get how no one questions this internationals entities.
does anyone know others shady international state-like organizations?
one that comes to my mind is the sovereign military order of malta,they own a palace and a manor in Rome.

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>>129241212
1. Inflation is caused by central banking policies like fractional reserve banking and money printing. Deflation isn't handouts. Deflation is the natural economic process where things get more efficient and cheaper because of innovation. That deflation is bad is a terrible lie.
2. The reason the bankers lend at such reduced interest rates is because it increases consumption. You make less money in interest. Combined with inflation, your money will be worth less with every passing day.
This makes people cash in their money quickly instead of saving: consumerism. Consumption economies are very inefficient, but more money changes hands. Consumption economies encourage short-term-oriented spending instead of long term oriented wise investment.

Why do they do this when it's obviously less efficient?

Taxes.

The government makes money every time money changes hands, so while it hurts their citizens, it lets them siphon off WAY more than they would otherwise. These loans make money back in taxes.

If the economy were a car, the citizen benefits from a high speedometer, but the government benefits from a high temperature gauge. They're the ones driving, so they're driving down the freeway in 2nd gear.

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>>129241701
>>129248801

Usury, the act of charging interest on loans, is what ultimately collapses currencies. From the moment that the issuing reserve loan money to the bank, who in turn loan money to the individual, if interest is charged on those loans, you have created debt in excess of currency in circulation.

You must now print more and more money to loan to the bank, to loan to individuals, to satisfy preexisting debts. Usury creates nationwide ponzi-schemes.

You can obfuscate this system through the exchange of foreign currencies, but if they too engage in widespread usury then it doesn't really solve anything in the long-run.

...all misery on Earth is a business model...

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more redpills

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>that ending preview

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-13/bank-international-settlements-backdoor-betrayal

>>129250119
Usury, the act of charging interest on loans, is what ultimately collapses currencies.
This is false. I recommend reading chapter 6 of Man, Economy, and State.
An interest rate is absolutely necessary to compensate for risk. In a natural economy it's inversely proportional to the amount of "value" in the economy. (I say value because value is very different from money.)

The big point of interest rates is that they moderate consumption. They make people adjust the amount they consume in the present vs what they plan to consume in the future.

When there are only 10 loaves of bread in an economy, not only is it a big risk to lend somebody one of your loaves, but if you can just put off payment for a couple years with zero repercussions, then you'll borrow 5 loaves of bread without a second thought about putting them back into the economy for others to benefit from. Other people might starve in the mean time.
There will be a bust when there's a shortage of bread, and then there will be a boom or bread bubble. Boom bust cycles are a consequence of artificially low interest.

When there are 1 million loaves in the economy, it's a far smaller risk to the lender and maybe there's even too much bread in the economy.

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>>129250119
I don't think I was very clear.

In ancient times, interest rates were has high as 50% or even 100% because the market naturally decided that the total savings present in the economy weren't large enough to survive a famine or disaster for instance. This made people save. People saving drove down interest rates.

Interest rates kept getting lower and lower as the total savings went up. The more development, the lower risk of ruin, and the lower the interest rate. We'll never get to zero until we have infinite savings, but we'll approach it.

>>129240987
calling me a shill when im not the one shilling the video.. thanks for confirming that its fake

sage

I'm actually on the side of believing Bernard here but has anyone found out anything more about him, i did a cursory search on him when the first video came but i don't think i found anything much about him. I guess considering who he claims to be it would make sense to keep a very low profile.

>>129257896
Either he's telling the truth, or he's a pathological liar.

>>129257896
>>129259004
He's starting some kind of bank which gives a little info near the bottom about him

https://bofjoy.net/about-us/who-are-boj.html

>>129240639
>wanst it debunked as fake?
No

>>129259251
Thanks mate.

Hitler was right.

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Pretty interesting perspective, so apparently this guy is also offering some service. What caught my eye was the products he is offering in his new bank. How do we know this isn't just a god tier LARP to quadtruple-serbian-double-jew-bluff us? I mean I was convinced, but I was also convinced bernie or trump wasn't a part of the globalist cabal 1 year ago. So I have a pretty bad trackrecord of gullibility.

https://bofjoy.net/products/

>Do you posses 100.000 euro’s or more? Pay attention. Did you know that within the EU all (saving) deposits above 100.000 euro’s are vulnerable to acquisition in order to save banks? This means that your savings above 100.000 euro’s are no longer safe. Our answer is Bail-free. We protect capital by placing it in safe havens in Europe. There where the big money owned by royal families and large corporations is placed. With Bail-free we invest your money in the real economy, that gives revenue and serves society. Do you want to safeguard your savings?

>>129264203
>So I have a pretty bad trackrecord of gullibility.
Same desu. Same. I can't seem to make out whether he's a pathological liar or not. It wouldn't surprise me if he were.

This is what i never get, why are all the terrorists not bombing the banks? These are, were, and will be our real god damn enemy. To less people are talking about that on this board.

>>129264813
Oh boy, just wait until you realize the (((terrorists))) always work out in favor of the same world powers and groups.

>>129235606
this is the end boss. 4skin's greatest victory involves subverting this cabal

>>129264813
>implying terrorists aren't a creation of the (((banks))) in the first place
Define a 'terrorist' sendpie.

>>129265465
someone who want's to destroy what seemingly destroys his life and believes. But i know.

I just wish people were more redpilled about the whole banking system, imagine if someone actually would do something against them. Never happened, probably never will happen.

>>129265269

This. Fuckers are going down. They have ((immunity)) by law but when enough people know, the ((immunity)) is no more than a piece of paper


Also cryptocurrency, bitcoin, can't be inflated. Would solve it all.

>>129265704

>I just wish people were more redpilled about the whole banking system, imagine if someone actually would do something against them. Never happened, probably never will happen.


Why you think cryptocurrency got started up faggot?

>>129265822
literally 000001% of what they have, was a nice try, next try.

They can create money out of nothing, literally kill countries in one single press of a button without one missile fired by them.

Bitcoin can't do that.

>>129239632
how accurate is the translation?

>>129265753
Slightly unrelated but since bumping this thread is pretty important, do you know, or anyone reading this how a cryptocurrency like bitcoin can survive the test of time and scalability. Or what happens when google/whoever makes their 2,000-qubit quantum computers.

Also, ethereum vs bitcoin?

red pill thread?

you guys should watch this whole video. proves radiation is mostly harmless. we could easily have free limitless energy but fear mongering is used to scare us into accepting more expensive energy that allows elites to control world financial flows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z14HdPOx9g

i dont know if he mentions it in this video but one thing that blew my mind is that irradiated food is actually safe to eat. in fact, gamma irradiation actually PRESERVES food.

imagine paying a fraction of a cent to irradiate your steak and let it sit on the shelf for months without it going bad.

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>>129235606
Blue=Countries ruled by jews

>>129267863
Russia?

>>129240189
>for lonely Friday night

Drinking and music threads on /b/ in your future

>>129267863
>>129268011


I believe Russia, but not China or Saudi Arabia

>>129268011
The Central Bank of Russia is a member of BIS.The world its just a theatre,and governments are the puppets

>>129243161
So, we're a fucking world power. Shill

>>129268421
The Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency and the People's Bank of China are members of BIS too

>>129268259
Why would they meddle in Syria to back Irans pipelines and prevent saudi's pipelines?

Also literally everything else like sanctions, Crimea, Putin publicly saying the first soviet government was mostly jewish etc.

>>129268421
This fucks with my world view quite a bit, I will do further research.

lmao people who think interest rate=theft are literal morons.....so you need 50,000 to build a house? ok I have that money. I should just give it to you for free? But I could use that 50k for something else!

Guess I'm evil for wanting to live off money that I've saved

>>129269144
Imagine you are a country,and the house is the debts payment.So i give you money to pay those debts,but now you must pay another one,and if u dont pay it,it will increase every year.What you do?Reduce salaries,more taxes,less healthcare,etc.

>>129267863
>Only countries not held by jews are literal shitholes

wew lad looks like I'm getting a second serving of black pill today

>>129269529
Now imagine you paid my debt.Okay you are happy right?So now i fuck your economy putting inmigrants in your country,or maybe feminism so you must waste money to help pussies to get a job,or maybe communism?so riots and strikes for you.They do this by controlling the media,the multinationals,the banks,etc.

>>129270298
Now i put inmigrants,so u want to vote for some anti-inmigration representant,like trump.But you know what?The wall will cost a lot,oh and bombing isis?Well,a lot of money on weapons.Do you want money to pay it?Okay,take this debt...

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>>129266629
the translation is good

>>129270218
>there are only jews in countries that are not shitholes
learn any history you dipshit

What are some good docs on elite pedos?

>>129271034
Actually the french revolution was made by those bankers,why?Simple,monarchs owned all the power,and if they dont want to pay debts they dont pay it(same with nobility and clergy).So they organizated that to instaure the (((parliamentary monarchies))),where the king power is limited by the (((parliament))).

>>129240639
Nope

https://youtu.be/8RyJWrzdNFc

>>129240639
>debunked
nop, the only thing that could be "debunked" is that nobody knows him, but then again, do u know all billionaires? trust me u will find many billionaires unever heard of, doesnt mean they r fake

>>129266704
Ethereum has like 80% premine (coins generated by owners)
Bitcoin has ~1.5 millions btc early mined on ((((satoshi)))) wallet
The only provable fairly launched coin was litecoin. Every b media shill for ethereum while shit on litecoin for no obvious reason.

>>129250119
> the act of charging interest on loans
if there was no interest nobody would loan any money, interest is not the problem

charging interests on money you don't have with printing and fractional reserve banking is a problem because that new money was created without creating value but the money for the interest was not created and thus the payment of the interest must come from the value created else where.

The problem is when money is created without value being created and then the people with the power to create this money can extract value through the interest

>>129275959
Interesting, when you say premined, does this mean they can generate currency like the fed can? How does this work, do they hold this premine for themselves or is it in circulation?

My roommate has been shilling really hard for ethereum lately so I thought it was legit.

Who the fuck is this guy? I'm half way through part 1 and he's saying a lot of words, but not much in terms of substance. Just that roughly 8500 people are playing the Game of Thrones with the world and we're all just along for the ride....

>>129277292
>8500 people are playing GoT with the world
>at our expense
>nothing of substance
want to know how I know you're a faggot?

>>129277053
>, does this mean they can generate currency like the fed can
No, they can't generate it out of their ass since it part of the algorithm, but they already mined most of it form the start and made so called ICO, there future coders of ethereum software "sold" all freshly generated coins to (((anonymous investors))) for hilariously big money, i.e fuckers bought their own premine to make it look legit. It's supposwed all this premine in circulation now, while in reality there is hardly 100000 eth on exchanges

>>129277924
And total supply of eth today is around 92 millions, so like 99 percent of total supply now in the pockets of (((anonymous investors))) and never hit any exchanges.

>>129277525
Faggortry aside. He isn't proving anything. Any asshole with some acting chops can spin a story about so called "top level" finance middle man. This is still following early youtube conspiracy video narratives

This is probably some sociology class experiment to see how far a conspiracy will go. There was a class at my university that did that with a fake pirate story

>>129278258
>conspiracy
so you don't think interest rates are usury?

>>129239632
>that feel when have to mute the vid because dutch makes my ears bleed

>>129278523
You think all interest rates are usury? Why would anyone lend money without collecting interest? That's how investing works, invest in capital now for a return later.

Do I think this bad shit happens? Yes.

Do I think this guy is telling the truth? No.

BTW, there is nothing more deep state, illuminati, big brother than YouTube / Google

You should automatically distrust anyone who uses that platform. You should also understand that they track everything you do, so if you visit the site, use the best possible ad and tracking blockers

>>129278835
When you create money without creating value, and then charge interest on said loan, then yes, that IS usury. You thick fuck.

>>129277924
>>129278220
Okay I see what you mean now, it seemed to gain way more attention than it deserved so I was getting quite suspicious

>>129279053
You're talking about printing money. That's inflation. Inflation is theft and fractional reserve banking is fraud, but giving someone $100,000 now to start a business with the expectation of getting an additional return later is not failing to create value. You stupid abo.

>>129279508
Name a single place you can get a loan of $100,000 without inflation occurring.

>>129279053
>>129279508
Charging someone excessive interest on a sliding scale is usury. Title loan outfits are usury. charging interest in and of itself is not usury

>>129279362
I think ethereum will overtake bitcoin soon and bitcoin will be abandoned, since most bitcoin supply is out of control. Big corporations like microsoft already openly "invest" in ethereum, so i think they would try to push it as a cryptocurrency pleb should use, while big corporations control 99% of it.

>>129235606
Asked this before and can't be bothered to get the exact quote again, but when he says something to the effect of "if people just realized and rose up they could be free".
What the fuck exactly does that mean? I've heard this so much, and nobody can answer. We'd all love to see the plan. If everyone woke up tomorrow redpilled, then.. oh wait, no plan. Just "rise up". OK LOL. Sounds like a commie plan aka no plan.

>>129279653
Your issue is with Central Banking and I'm right there with you on that. Interest is not inherently usury is my only point.

>>129280491
Except that it doesn't realistically exist in any current format. So what is your real point? Why open your mouth at all? You just want to hear that you are right on a hypothetical situation? How fucking insecure are you?

>>129266629
Americans and the Dutch have been best friends for 500 years and the English and Dutch have been trade rivals for 700, Dutch subtitles are one if the most accurate there is except for maybe Spanish or German

>>129280491
>>129280989
Debt based money will only create more debt with interest, but if its backed by something of real value it wont. Stop arguing about stupid shit lol

>>129235606
He sounds pretty genuine to me

Driving, does he say why he decided to slip the script and tell everyone what's really going on?

>>129280989
You responded to me knuckle dragger. I didn't even mention interest rates. My original point before you derailed yourself was that this guy is saying nothing that wasn't already online in the early 2000s.

>>129281521
he basically got to the level of trust where they require their pawns to participate in child sacrifices ala pedogate scandal. He couldn't quite go through with it and basically became useless to the elite and got out that way.

>>129281608
So he shouldn't say anything about it, because clearly everything was resolved in the early 2000's? What are you trying to achieve here?

>>129281908
I'm saying I haven't seen any reason to believe what he is saying. He could easily pick up a pile of conspiratard trash cobble it together in this character and have someone interview him about it. If I had a bingo card i'd have checked off the Lucifarians,MK Ultra, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I just need the Bohemian Grove, The Masons, and an explicit Illuminati reference and I win the Bingo game.

>>129282465
Once again, do you want to know how I know you are a Piece of shit shill faggot?

>>129281752
Smooth, thank you Einar

>>129283030
I wish man, get money all day just to trigger kangaroos. This is more likely a DVM TV marketing stunt. Trying to be the next Info Wars. They slow drip this interview to try to maximize the hype and get subs. Why not just release the whole thing?

>>129283495
>implying more information about the corruption that is holding us back as a species is a bad thing.
Wew.

To me what he's describing is a system that was probably set up with good intentions initially that has been corrupted and taken over by a group of complete cunts. The system is in dire need of overhaul but is locked down in a shroud of secrecy and corruption. Our political class in all our nations need to be kicked out pronto before this banking elite completely fuck everything.

>>129283611
>implying that you shouldn't be as rigorously critical of this as you are with CNN
>implying that any of this is even true.

Videos like this are just a comforting nihilistic blanket for the weak. Don't worry abo-friend there is a vast global conspiracy working against you in the world it's not your fault you're unsuccessful in life.

>>129283764
if you loonies weren't against bitcoin and the whole blockchain technology you'll see the solution is to bypass the monetary system

Another bump, hoping that the amount of slide threads is less than before.

>>129284261
I am personally doing fine, that doesn't mean there isn't a vast global conspiracy. I care about more than just myself

>>129284261
I am implying this is true. Two seconds ago you were as well. Funny how quickly you Jews shift goal posts depending on what you are trying to accomplish. You realised your subversion wasn't working, and now after completely dropping the facade of agreeing with the points raised you now stoop to ad hominem attacks. Pathetic.

>>129284261
I get the skepticism, but what if the slow drip hype build is actually a win win- more people get red pilled AND they get more subs? I want to believe, ronald seems to know what he's talking about...

>>129283495

DVM TV only have like 100 subs tho

>>129283495
DVM stands for 'The Free Media' in Dutch. I doubt they'll get any traction over (((here))).