Has anyone actually tried the self authoring program? My lif

I finally started watching this guy last night and he spoke a lot of (hurtful) truths that made me a bit more introspective for the better. I'd recommend it

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got it when it was free, future authoring anyway. Would do again, really focuses on trying to make you sort out what you want to be and what you don't want to be. Even if you think you know you don't really accept it until you write down these thoughts. It just makes everything more real and the guiding questions really help get what you're really thinking in writing. Don't enter it thinking it'll change your life but just with an open mind

>>129230574
Those are going to be some fucked up kids.

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>>129230017
>unironically falling for a new age self help guru

Sad for your life

>>129230017
Let's hear your story OP

I'm an electrician and I've always hated it. I've been one for 10 years.
I like the work and all, but I've just had horrible experiences with old asshole coworkers. From when I was a first year apprentice, I always tried to do a great job, but I was slow to catch on. So pretty much I was screamed at and degraded for being to slow and not good at my job. I developed work anxiety.
I know what I'm doing alot more now, but I still have problems. I can't deal with confrontation still.. I will overthink simple things and still fuck up. It's like I become a character at work and I automatically become an actor in a role, if that makes sense.
I'm probably of normal intelligence, and never have these problems outside of work.
I just quit my job and haven't been able to get off the couch for the last 2 days.

Thanks for reading my blog. If you think it can help, please let me know.

>>129231065
You need to go deeper.

What was your dad like, was your Mom hot?

>>129231065
I don't have these anxiety problems if I do work for myself or my friends.

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>>129231013
>new age self help guru

Not even close

Sort yourself out

>>129231322
I know you're just dicking around, but my dad was very hardworking but could be a dick.

I'm pretty sure my mom was hot in her day.

I am willing to hear you out if you can sponsor a marriage visa. Hell, I'll even include amateur coaching sessions and a dieting/exercise program if you're really willing to do it.

Haven't done the self authoring stuff, but after hours upon hours of Peterson videos I have regained my life. He has given me the tools to find a path in my life and I have used them to raise myself from years of depression and failure into a new man.

>>129230574
Worth 15 dollars or whatever they're charging for not now?
Or could you just be a bro and write down the instructions

>>129231065
Also, I'm old (34), single, no kids. I recently started to regret my life since I was a shitty liberal alcoholic until a few years ago. I alway said I didn't want to get married of have kids, and of course I regret it now.

Peterson talks about not having responsibilities as a man is a road to self destruction.

For all you younger guys: Marry the first non-slut you can find! Have Kids! Do not wait!
Because eventually, the only ones that are leftover are all sluts.

>>129230017
After listening to Jordan Peterson I got a girlfriend and my room is clean as fuck. Guaranteed cleaner than yours.

>>129232265
I almost want to recommend you to marry a girl who's in her 20's, but let's be real here: at that age pretty much any woman is a slut. Then when they are in their 30's they slowly start to realize that their looks are fading so they'll marry the first rich beta guy they can find so that they can live comfortably for the rest of their lives, and if it doesn' work out with this one beta they'll simply divorce and get even more money.

>>129233622
Not all 20 somethings are sluts

The ones that aren't might just not be the prettiest girls on the block. But why would you want to marry the prettiest girl? She has miles of dick thrown at her every day and likely to cheat.

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>>129232265
>Marry the first non-slut you can find! Have Kids! Do not wait!
This is frankly the best advice I've ever read on 4chan. I almost lost my virgin gf/fiancée because I was too afraid to plan a family and assume responsibility for both my life and the life of my future children. Happy she was loyal. Getting married soon.

Life has been a blast these past few years. Not because it was all sunshine and dandies, but because I finally know that there are things worth fighting for, but it took a good old-fashioned, virtuous lioness of a woman to snap me out of my blackpilled status.

>>129231065

I read that a lot of Masons are electricians.

Is electricity evil? Can it cause demonic possession?

>>129234002
This nigger gringo is right. Go for the virtues not the looks. Take care of yourself, be clean, clean and put in order everything you can reach.

>>129232265
>>129231065
Time to start trading crypto anon

>>129231065
That anxiety can be a valuable asset in the workplace. Think about it critically for a second.
It pushes you to do a good job in a way that cannot be ignored. Don't let the fear and anxiety consume you, or place you in the rut.
If only you could realize that anxiety isn't all that bad(until it cripples you, like it's doing now).

A bit unconventional advice:do DMT once. It is known to change your personality permanently and raise your creativity by two standard deviations. Even peterson himself admits this and is fascinated by this

>>129238411
I was looking into making it, actually.
Thanks.

>>129238620
Do your research tho. I don't want you to poison yourself or do something stupid you muricans are known to do.

>>129239099
Haha! I'll order it off the darkweb if the recipe get to complex.

>>129230017
Repost?
Why u repost this?

>>129238620
.
Please do your research.
Having a defected batch can have a profound difference in your experience. Don't take the process lightly.
Get informed.

>>129239099
DMT is natural part of our brain chemistry though.

>>129239628
That's true but extraction process can yield an impure product.

>>129239536
This is not a repost.
I actually haven't posted on here in months.

>>129232058
this. I earnestly recommend any anons to watch his videos. start with the Q&A videos he recently did, its an easy way to get used to his dad style of speaking. really makes you think (unironically)

>>129239592
I will, thanks for the concern leaf.

>>129238620
>>129238411
not a good idea without mounds of research. psychedelics are not toys meant for fun. they are powerful tools and should be treated as such.

Have used his future authoring program. Room is clean.

I'm going to keep this page open so I can read all the comments later, but I should try to get off the couch and go walk around outside for a while.

As corny as it sounds, thanks for listening and for all the advice. I'm in a really dark place, and it's crazy to think that the only place that gives me hope is dubbed a "white supremacist" website by the media as I get bantz and wisdom from people all over the world.

I will do the self authoring program and will make a thread if it makes a difference.

Thanks guys.

>>129240418
Well, OP's personality seems like that of a chronically under-the-weather type of person. The kind that is a strict pessimist. DMT can make things better for him. It is known to make permanent changes to the users personality. It's a gamble i'd be willing to bet on, if I was in OP's shoes. Bonus point is that, it is not addictive.

>>129241097
All the best m8!

>>129241225
Prozac is known to do the same thing and has the bonus of not making him into a retard.

>>129238411
where did you get DMT in India

>>129241097
shut up you stupid faggot
the majority of people are in dark places, don't feel so special

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Do any of you buckos have the water colour style painting of Peterson arguing with the SJW horde? Saw it posted earlier today

>>129234540
Glad it worked out for you man, I had a similar experience except I lost her in the end, despite putting a ring on it. It sucks she gave up on us, but I also know that I helped create this chaos by waiting too long to propose and always brushing away the idea of a family or even just a future with her.

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I'm going to try out the self-authoring program. I'm sure it will be beneficial. At the least, it will help you to structure your time.

>>129242672
bumping because I can not find this anywhere

>>129242556
And the majority do nothing about it except downplay the effects of being in dark places, as if it were the only way to live.

>>129230017
Why is this not free?

>>129232265
Nice try roastie

>>129244159
Capitalism.

>>129242417
You'll have to get the mimosa hostilis root bark online. Then look up a suitable method to extract DMT from it. Roots can be bought on indiamart.com
>>129242048
No, do your research. Prozac is just an antidepressant. It'll make you mentally weaker(as you are not facing the chaos and are not fighting the memories that are causing you to be depressed) and can also lead to psychological dependency. Also, DMT doesn't make you retarded.

>>129244653
I should have been clearer. I am ok with that (of course) but given his speeches it did seem to me like peterson was very emotionally invested in improving young people. That's why it seems weird to me for it to be behind a paywall.

>>129244712
I have done the research. Prozac is better than other SSRIs. There are books written about Prozac making people better than well.

>>129241097
what??
this a white supremacist website???
i thought we just talked shit about niggers and traded porn?

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>>129230017
Where does one start with, he's got so many videos on his youtube channel, I can't just sit around for hours upon hours and listen to some dude talk. I feel so lost, can someone make a guide?

>>129232292
I bet you my fucking room is cleaner. Have you even gotten the dragon out of your closet?

>>129244159
>>129245084
He's made the program free several, several times, I got my Future Authoring pass like that. He also used to give it to some people who explained their circumstance and financial troubles, although nowadays he gets so many e-mail I doubt he still has the time.

>>129245417
depends on what do you want

>>129239628
So is fucking nicotine and a milliliter will kill you.

>>129245772
I want to sort myself out and clean my room.

>>129245417
I started out watching his 2017 personality series.

>>129245417
And actually, his interview with joe rogan was great. Watch that.

>>129245936
ok, then there's a pastebin with the self authoring future program going around, look for it in the archives

do that shit, then go for maps of meaning lecture, listen to it with phone while you clean your room

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Reach out to the truth, Anon.
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/872520672920076290

>>129246153
>>129246228
Thank you, I'm going to start with the Joe Rogan then follow up with the Procrastinating advice, that's always been a huge issue with me.

>>129245603
I see, thank you.

>>129246368
Thank you, I found the pastebin, time to get to work.

>>129230017
/hide thread
i literally with 100% of my being hope you get ass cancer OP

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>>129242672

>>129230017
Can I get a Peterson watch guide? Dude fascinates me but idk where to start on his youtube channel.

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>>129230017
>>129232058
>>129232196
>>129243789
>>129244159
>>129245936
>>129246368

Here is the pastebin for the Future Authoring: https://pastebin.com/BiFE2fUX

Sort yourselves out buckos.

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>>129230017

Reminder that OP is a shill getting paid at least $2,000 USD per month by e-celeb Peterson to spam threads promoting him, because he determined the ROI on getting additional interest and thus donators to his Patreon gives him a better end result than not spamming.

OP is in violation of rule 11, please report him

>>>/global/rules/11

>>129241097
Writing what's on your mind is the therapeutic process by which the past authoring program works. It helps you understand what is going on, what went wrong and what to do about it. If you never articulate the mistakes you've made, they will haunt you. So good for you for writing that.

>>129247246
could you share it, please? Too drunk to find it...

>>129247681
I started with the Joe Rogan interviews.

>>129238411
>>129238620
Careful with DMT if you have a background of depression. The best is to have someone next to you who has already gone through it and can take care of you if things go to shit.

>>129245417
interview with joe rogan (the first one)
then the "message to millenials"
then his lecture series

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>>129247910
Sorry, you need to sort yourself out bruh.

>>129248068
See >>129247882

>>129245417
Start with both his appearances on JRE, that will give you a great foundation of what he's about. Then, I think it be best if you just watch some of the short snippets people upload from longer talks according to your interests.

By this point, you're most likely interested in the deeper details of what he talks about so you can take up the 2017 Maps of Meaning series. From here, you'll understand the philosophy well enough to navigate where you want to through his other series.

>>129232265
> 34
> old

Stop making excuses for yourself

>>129245199
the "Better than well" book is quite old.

Prozac is now superceded by escitalopram or buproprion / wellbutrin

Guys.
Screencap your desktop.
How can you clean your room if you don't even keep a clean desktop?

https://pastebin.com/BiFE2fUX

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>>129247681
Start here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04wyGK6k6HE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USg3NR76XpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7HPbjsYYGg

Then watch one of his Map of Meaning series, 2017 has better production values, but Peterson is less humorous in it (apparently he had health issues last winter)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjnvtRgpg6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8Xc2_FtpHI

Then maybe start the bible series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w

>>129248357
muito obrigado

>>129232265
It's okay OP.

You could also have been a feminist that thought shit like the patriarchy was real until you hit 28 and realize that you are deeply, deeply unhappy, end up developing some case of functional alcoholism and only slowly claw out of your personal hell realizing you've wasted your youth being mad at men, and your father, rather than take responsibility for making something of your life. Then realize at 30 years of age that you've dun goofed and try to steer your life around as best as you can, loosing more or less every friend in the process because women will just rebuke you for not thinking the same as they do.

>>129246584
Wait what? JBP who tells me to quit vidya and do something productive with my life is suggesting me to play persona 4? The funny thing is, quitting vidya has actually been beneficial for me. Dont know what's he pointing at....
>>129247246
What did you type in search, to find that pastebin?

>>129249006
>2017
It's when everything exploded in his face and he got the full weight of the university and his students against him.

Also he suffers from seasonal depression.
There's one of the 2017 lessons where you get the feeling that he's about to break into tears half of the time and is super on edge. That's the first of those where he comes back to the uni after having been spat out.

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>>129248719
Am I doing it right?

>>129249281
Never mind. Found the said pastebin. Thanx anyways!

>>129249294
Yes that's part of it, but he's explained on multiple occasions that he had some unrelated health problems, probably a depressive period as well. His weightloss on the other hand was due to him adopting a paleo type diet.

I probably shoudn't know so much about the details of his life. I guess his health has seemed essential to me as we desperately need him.

>>129230827
They're basically philips

>>129248952
PASTEBIN HERE
>PASTEBIN HERE
PASTEBIN HERE
>PASTEBIN HERE

my bad I should've replied to someone
https://pastebin.com/BiFE2fUX

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>>129249459
Not bad, On my side I placed shit by uses.
>Bottom Left:Docs
>bottom right: Games
>top left useful tools
>top right. Old shit.

>>129230017

Just get a diary LMAO

his Self-Aturhoing is just a list of simple questions about your future prospects; Shit like, "Where do you see yourself in five years ? or What kind of relationship would you like to built ?"

I completed it while going through my Peterson fan boy phase but I got it for free; only pay for it if you are a richfag.

>>129232292
Did your mom pet the dragon? or did she purposely ignore it?

>>129247643
I have no idea who created this but holy hell..
That's incredible. The painter is brilliant.

>>129230017
That intro is pure dude lmao cringe

What are you general thoughts on Peterson as a female? Are you in any kind offended what he says, say about dominance hierarchies or the distinction about masculinity and femininity, gender differences in personality and so on? Just curious

>>129244712
You can just extract it from a colOrado river toad if you live in the southwestern US

>>129252101
>offended
at what, the guy is telling the truth

A lot of women are raised with the idea that they are exceptional for some reason and that normal things like "you'll grow up to want children some day" does not apply to them. However a lot of women (you could say people) are not exceptional.

What really helped is the explanation of the female archetype. The male story is killing the dragon and the female story is taming the beast. Put that way it makes a lot more sense than talking in alfa and beta males. What you need is for the guy to have some force, or capacity to be scary and respected. Doesn't mean he needs to buff up in the gym, someone with a sharp and deadly mind can be good too. But that explained a lot for me as far as choosing my boyfriends went.

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>>129231013
>start with something small, like cleaning your room
>learn to write, make a plan for the future and give yourself a worst case scenario to run away from

>"don't fall for it guys!"

Phew I almost fell for it, and imagine if I had, I might have stopped being totally nihilistic or something :/

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>tfw can't think of anything that I want to accomplish in life
>tfw drifting along aimlessly day after day
>tfw too comfy to be driven to struggle for anything

I really, really want to stop giving a fuck and just enjoy the ride, but there's a part of me that screams "YOU'RE BEING A PUSSY. MAN UP AND STOP SQUANDERING YOUR YOUTH!" but at the same time another part of my brain says, "It's okay to not want to struggle. Human society has developed to the point where it won't always be necessary. Just relax and try to enjoy the simpler things in life."

Fucking brain.

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>>129252101
yeah can't BELIEVE he would suggest something like that women and men are different, absolutely disgusting

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this guy is so much more than just "sorting yourself out" and "anti sjw".
I spend the last couple days extracting an algorithm for simulating an ai for a really basic """animal""" from his maps of meaning lectures. it has ridiculous complexity and I wonder if I manage to implement it.
and lets not even start talking of anything social or more advanced behaviour.

>>129250617
That's future authoring program. Afaik, self authoring program is the superset of this program. Btw, did it improve your life?

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>>129252101
>Peterson as a female

>>129253136
Here's a bit of advice.
https://youtu.be/_t2JhmDV2Ow

I have been doing the Self-Authoring Suite now for 4 months. I've estimated I've written almost 200,000 words using it.
The past authoring is intense, you set your life into 6 epochs, then each epoch is dived down into 6 experiences, each with a 3000-word limit. That is just the first half. I thought I would whiz through this, but instead the floodgates opened, I easily went over 3000 words each "event", I simply couldn't stop myself from writing. I knew it was important, I didn't know precisely what was happening to me, I just felt better, especially in my therapy sessions.
Half way through the Suite ( I do this on my off time at work) I was asked by my boss to organize a large book library after we remodeled..standing there putting a thousand books in alphabetical order it dawned on me, this is what the program is doing, it's helping you put your mind, your past in order, it helps you connect events that were as before hand they were isolated, fragmented. this was a revelation. In conjunction with a good therapist ( I go to the C.G. Jung Institute in my city), this has helped me tremendously.

>>129252101
I'm actually very grateful to him. I was redpilled about the female nature before I discovered Peterson, and I have fairly decent self-control, having grown up in a Christian home. But his analyses of women are spectacular, and it's helped me make sense of parts of myself that seem contrary to logic and rational thought. His speech on women in high-paying positions was also fantastic. I also second this >>129252626

>>129250354
Thank you, anon!

How is he compared to Dan Pena?

>>129253683
Yes, that's exactly right you are crystalizing things you have not dared to face. The things in your past haunt you because you haven't quite figured out what happened and why. When you articulate the events, you map it for yourself and you at least know where you stand. Then maybe you know how to avoid such things in the future.

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>>129231488
>1488

>>129231488
>>129254900
This thread is turning into a numerals thread we need to sort ourselves out.

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>>129247910
Clean your room.

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>tfw youve been cleaning your room before it was cool

digits pls

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>>129255817
REEEEE

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>>129255883
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>129255979
aight fuk u den

>>129255817
>>129255883
>>129255979
>>129256086
czech em

>>129230017
Yes, and I've also begun to go to psychotherapy when Peterson called that the best money he ever spent. He's right. I'm more than doubly efficient and will have much more time and energy subverting marxism and jews.

>>129238411
I've always been creative and it's a curse. Sure you're better at problem solving and it helps for some creative professions, but for everything else it means you're more likely to pick a less efficient path.

>>129241097
Jordan peterson +psychotherapy took from that dark place to working hard on myself and the goal of trying to save the west and white people.

>>129244159
other than it being a good opportunity with Jordan Peterson in the spotlight?

People tend to be more motivated to participate in things if they had to pay for it.

The college i graduated from would charge $5 for dance tickets not to make money, but because they found it actually *increased* attendance. People didn't want to waste the $5.

>>129230017
I did it, it mostly involves you writing, but it directs your writing so you pry your brain for things that might be contributing to your unhappiness. I'm not finished with it but it's helping me get a clearer assessment of my problems.

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>>129247643
I want to get a painting of this

>>129231065
What you are describing is your persona. Your public image, figure out what the opposite of that image is, the worst you can think of. That is your shadow and it holds not only a warning but also somethings you need.

If you are meek and timid, you shadows worst trait would be destruction, violence and aggressiveness. These traits also hold what you need, teeth and guts. Next step is to figure out a way to accept the shadow in such a way it does not overtake you or you will become this worst possible entity that you are aware of.

To be good, you must now evil and choose not to do it. If you never known evil you are not capable of being good.

>>129230017
Why are /pol/fags in such desperate need of a father figure?

>>129258670
Loser who takes his father for granted detected

>>129258670
Because feminism destroyed traditional families

>>129232196
Currently 22 bucks for the whole thing, all 3 phases, and they give you 2 accounts so you can give one to someone else

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>>129234540

I came to this thread to talk about JP now I'm shedding manly tears.

It didn't work for me anon, I screwed up and now she's gone. I'm 28 soon 29.is it too late for me familia?

>>129260116
Not even fucking close.

>>129260116
It's never too late. I'm in my 30s and it's not hard to get women 10 years younger interested in you.
The hard part is finding one that's worth investing yourself in, but that's the issue at any age.

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>>129260116
If you were a woman I'd say the end is getting pretty near. But as a man you're just entering your prime.

>>129232265
I really tried. All all the ones I would have a shred of believe they are marrying material are now, 10 years later, mostly single mothers and half of them are on the path of super regression. As soon the reality kicks in that you have to care for kids and want some sort of middle class life, many get their plays out of the witches handbook. One girl I dodged the bullet was a full hard balled leftist with purple color hair on the left side. Absolutely fun, lots of heated discussions (women would say foreplay) and such. And now, holier than the pope, everything is going to the shitters and their opinion breaks every truth. Can't stand one of them.

Last good woman I met was to good to be true. But she lived in East Europe and I won't move there, and she had like 100 people family there.

Is Peterson a prophet?
Is he sent by god? by KeK?

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If self reflection is important, is keeping a diary redpilled?

>>129260904
Certainly can't hurt.

So long as you read it from time to time.

Thank God for the rain which has helped wash the garbage and trash off the sidewalks. I’m working a single now, which means stretch-shifts, six to six, sometimes six to eight in the a.m., six days a week. It’s a hustle, but it keeps me busy. I can take in three to three-fifty a week, more with skims. I work the whole city, up, down, don’t make no difference to me – does to some. Some won’t take spooks – Hell, don’t make no difference to me. They’re all animals anyway. All the animals come out at night: Whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.

>>129230017

DUDE SERIOUSLY HOW HARD CAN IT BE TO GET YOUR LIFE TOGETHER.

FIND A GOAL
PLAN IT OUT
EXECUTE IT

>>129260904
yes. It allows you to know yourself better and learn from your mistakes.

>>129260116
No way bro, I married a skank, got divorced. Met a girl 12 years younger than me who is the most loyal, caring person I've ever met. I'm 38 she's 26 and it doesn't matter to either of us. Never give up.

>>129260904
I have a tumblr where I post my thoughts, insights etc. once in a while along with music and art. I often go back and look at it as if it were a diary. It's interesting to see where your mindset was at a certain point in your life. I keep it organized with tags so I can quickly look up what I've written about various topics.

Also, it goes without saying that the tumblr community as a whole is cancer, but there's no obligation to interact with anyone. The website itself is pretty good as far as functionality goes.

>>129233622
20s girl here, virgin, caring and kind but taken

Just gotta look

>>129260904
Self-reflection is incredibly important. I don't do it, keeping a diary has helped a great deal.

>>129230017

Check out Joseph Campbell OP. His Mono-myth theory can provide some guidance in your life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLUgZhLJCHk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTjZvlKfNtk

Stop watching porn

>>129247681
Joe rogan, then maps of meaning 2017, then the on going series of the Bible

Fuck man, I was a hardcore atheist but this holy man is really making an strong case for Christianity

>>129261166
>FIND A GOAL

I'm stuck here for about 30 years now.

>>129261821
easy for you to say

>>129260904
I wush I had a cool looking diary. I have a shitty journal I write my le redpilled thoughts into. it helps me get sorted. thanks Dr. Peterson. He's kinda convinced me that racism is not good nor is hating others prior to knowing them and their motivations. Doesn't mean I wont hang a nigger, only that I will be more thoughtful and considerate here on out.

>>129262604
kek! similar, except I'm still a young lad (early 20s). I'm so grateful to have found him so young and while in Uni.

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Did future authoring, got me moving for about 2 months and then the dread set back in because I'm still unemployed.

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>>129260897
People used to talk about how if Jesus walked the earth today no-one would listen.

Doesn't seem like it.

>>129262355
Same, I still am an atheist, but I'm thinking of referring to myself as a 'literalistic atheist', in that i don't believe there's some otherworldly supernatural force out there, but I do believe in the metaphysics of human consensus building, storytelling, myth-making and how the large basic experiences of the human condition ultimately amalgamate into 'gods' as such (lust for violence felt by everyone is the god of war, for example).

Eventually the world looked at paganism and said "no more looking at these individual sections of your brains, you have one god that is all of these combined (your whole brain, not your individual proto-personalities)" which made us focused, but limited our understanding of ourselves, which we see now with this new strange resurgence of paganism, with Kek being the first to be refracted from the white light of the single god.

>>129230574
Man I'll never understand men's "fashion" these days. That guy looks ridiculous

>>129263195
Did you find the dragon at least?

>>129230017

Go to a psychologist for depression. I put it off for years. It really helps

>>129262183
This looks very promising. Thank you.

>>129263517
I'm thinking like this too anon. In my early days as a fedora tipper, I studied a lot of the similarities between Christianity and other religions, and was like "ha, see, it's all bullshit". Wish I had the insight to see the similarities were actually the most important part.

>>129263544
Because it is not made for men in the first place.

>>129263982
Life is a journey dude, being wrong in the past makes it that much more satisfying to be (perhaps not right, but less-wrong) in the future.

>>129264181
It does. Contradicting your earlier self directly is strangely satisfying, maybe because it feels like you're really getting somewhere.

>>129261650
Nice post leaf

I agree. Reddit isn't that bad for places where the community doesn't identify with the site. It's just a place to hang sometimes.

>>129264181
Absolutely, part of the best thing about life. I was too intent on being correct as opposed to seeing the truth,which was a good lesson.

>>129230017
Listen, all it will do is ask you the pointed questions that you don't want to ask yourself. But you still have to put in the work to answer them. Put another way: the exercise is worthless if you aren't willing to put in the work. You seem introspective enough that it may help you.

My decision came down to the fact that I had watched plenty of the dude's videos already and felt totally fine donating $15 even if the self authoring program was trash. I felt that my $15 was going to do him good just fighting the Canuck bullshit he's been fighting, if nothing else.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZqnUuyZGhY

required viewing for millennials

>>129265216
What kind of sacrifice is he talking about?

>>129264427
Exactly. Nothing is worse than the notion that you might be stagnating.
Even dead people get to change into something else, but living in stagnation... it's something else indeed.

>>129266116
Your childhood, your "freedom", all the things you have to leave behind as a responsible adult.

>>129252101
I consider him one of the heros of our lifetime. Still on the journey of sorting myself out and when or if I have children, they will benefit from the insight he's given me. Hopefully they won't have a need to sort themselves out like so many men and women of our generation had to because we can articulate the "why" questions.

>>129252626
This sums up my personal experience really well.

>>129230245
yea hes a real bastard like that

it really forces you to clean your room.

>>129261821

post hymen

>>129230017
Well OP only you can change you, but if you think this guide will help you walk your path than have at it and good luck (I mean that sincerely).

>>129266116

The endless potentiality of the child - all those half-formed dreams of what you could eventually be if you committed.

It's alluring to hold off committing as long as possible, since pursuing any one thing means accepting all kinds of limitations, but that's what gives you form and distinguishes you as a matured, self-actualized person.

>>129241097
>I will do the self authoring program and will make a thread if it makes a difference.
>Thanks guys.

Will look forward to seeing that thread.

>>129271495
I'm just trying to understand how to apply it to my own life.

I'm a student, I study, try to force myself to go to the gym and eat healthy. What more do I need to do?

>>129271892
If you know what you want in life and are taking the steps to achieve it you're all good, my man.

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>>129272351
Well what I really want is a qt wife and lots of kids but I'm ugly so it's never going to happen. So I guess I fall into the existential crisis section...

;_;

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>>129272875
get a not qt but based wife. live happy, eat what you want, get drunk whenever you want, cheat whenever you want, exploit social services, shitpost on 4chan and do whatever makes you happy.

>>129262743
Go get a nice leather midori travelers notebook.

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bumping this.

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Should one understand the implications of how cleaning your room will help you before actually doing so?

Can I get a quick rundown?

>>129275727
Your room is a reflection of you. Start somewhere. Start with yourself.

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2015 Maps of Meaning lecture series
audio only
I'm about half way through it. Good stuff and he goes more into depth about some of the concepts you hear time to time in various youtube videos of his.

You can DL it as MP3 but get the torrent if you can. Less hassle and I'm seeding the MP3 files from the torrent (i think only one or two people are seeding it at the moment)
https://archive.org/details/MapsOfMeaning2015

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>>129268624
Post modernism is post hymenism, roughly speaking

>>129277216
That's all I needed to hear, thanks.

>>129231065
I thought I was the only one. I can remember dates and a metric shit ton of things Normies can't, but I get criticized and made fun of because I'm slower at work and absorb these things less quickly than most. It gotten to the point where I have to write simple commands down.

>>129275727
Look around you. Spot the things you can fix in your life. Start with the most obvious, easiest things. Clean your room, then sort yourself out. Especially everyday things you don't normally think about.

>>129262183
I've read The Denial of Death multiple times and ultimately Joseph Campbell preaches nihilism. That's what attracted me to JBP, he gets at the issues Campbell addresses but has a more human, rational, and empowering message. Read Campbell and stop there and you'll quickly find yourself believing that life actually has no meaning.

>>129275727
I don't think it's necessary. Cleaning your room (in the literal sense) puts you in a mindset of correcting things, or sorting things out so to speak. The idea is that putting yourself in the mindset will lead to you "cleaning your room" in the metaphorical sense, and you'll begin sorting out other things in your life.

I'm currently doing 1 Hour each day in an attempt to train that brain muscle that is so underdeveloped which I need to slay my big dragons. Small dragons for now as training.
I used to do nothing for at least 5 years and could even argue my whole life, 25 years.

Question is, would JBP approach it the same way? I havnt gotten through all lectures yet and it's all very abstract which is nice, but not really hands on for depression, except clean your room. But I could in theory clean my room 24/7 if I'd argue I'm only stopping causae I'm lazy and evil instead of argueing I can't clean my room 24/7 cause my muscle endurance isnt good enough for that.

>>129279356
Buddhist monks can spend decades sweeping the ground. Keep cleaning your room until you are able to abstract out the meaning of "sorting yourself out" and begin to apply it to other things.

>>129279587
I just don't know if me saying I need to train on Small dragons first before slaying the big ones, is just an excuse to not handle the big ones.
Then again, it seems like I'm only willing to do the small dragons anyway so why even try to force myself and fail. I have no choice but to do the small ones and hope it will lead me to the bigger ones eventually.

I don't want to bite off more than I can chew, but I feel like if I'm still breathing I can still bite off more. I would have to die for me to realize I've biten off too much.

>>129280324
Buddish monks don't just sweep to keep the ground clean. The practice of sweeping has little to do with the very necessary task of keeping shit clean, rather it is meant to let the monk learn that every moment, every single moment, is different.

>>129280324
>I have no choice but to do the small ones and hope it will lead me to the bigger ones eventually.
That's right. Just strike them down where you see them. As long as you're honest with yourself you'll find the big ones. They're hard to acknowledge, not to find.

I got it when it was free but I haven't used it yet because I'm nonwhite

https://twitter.com/Vernaculis/status/863922098229710849

meme magic

>>129279356
Jordan stuff, his course on the internet, is psychoanalytical in the tradition of lacan, frued and jung. It won't help you with your depression, even his self authoring course won't help you. You europeans have socialized healthcare, like legit go see a psychiatrist and seek out specific therapies to help. it will likely be meds + a therapy like CBT.

>>129280848
>advice equivalent of the secret.

>>129281144
What?

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>>129230017
My problem is that i'm using /pol/ for self-help or reading comments on threads rather than actually doing these courses and avoiding this place in favor of truly tracking out my life.

Oh we'll say it's a good program because the man is a decent individual. But it all depends on how we can eliminate or compromise the "hooks" we have in our head. For example, I've been essentially a NEET 3 yrs now. I'll use this place and other forums for outlets. Then I'll justify in my head the advice I get here and from those outlets is actually improving some tiny bit of performance on a specific thing such as knowledge of politics or media lies. While these things may be true, they too serve as distractions. I will always want to be distracted by a self-help guide rather than actually perform self-help.

This is a major dragon i've created when attempting to slay multiple other dragons.

>>129231349

Start your own electrician business, anon. You don't need those faggots holding you back.

>>129231065

That's me, but i'm 29 and a welder. I try my hardest, but thing's don't really come naturally to me so I end up getting in shit sometimes and it stresses me out. I was laid off and i'm terrified to get another welding job because I have zero confidence in my ability.

Thanks for reading my blog.

>>129281391
One other issue that Jordan hasn't really addressed but it's not really his fault given he has a specific mindset on these things. It's that, even on /pol/, we are working against tiny "machines", bots, or information aggregates that hone in on human behavior - making the waters around the pot hotter while the frog doesn't notice.

these systems, more than ever, get us trapped in repetitive loops, echochambers, self-affirmation, NEETdom, information overload, clickbait articles that entice us, etc. i don't know how to defeat this dragon while simultaneously NEEDING the internet or some computational device to perform most job activities or gain more information on self-improvement.

It's a dual-sword.

>>129247882
Cheers, mate.

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>>129247882
>https://pastebin.com/BiFE2fUX
thank you m8. I'll make sure to pay this great man when I actually do get my shit together.

cheers!

wy do you ave to pay for self authoring? isn't it just writing about your life? i don't get it

>>129238620
Shrooms are much safer and learning Transcendental meditation, lucid dreaming, or visualization is even safer than any drugs and will actually pay off more because of work and investment.

>>129262355
This. I'm old as fuck (54) and have been a militant atheist all my life, that is, until I found JP here on /pol and started watching his videos. Watched 2017 Maps of Meaning (all of them) and it made perfect sense to me.
Now I could not honestly call myself an atheist anymore because I know that god exists. The only thing I would disagree with various Christians about is what "god" actually is, because my view is more inline with the way JP explains it, and almost something approaching Brahmanism (worth a quick study for anyone not finding Abrahamism totally satisfying).
Not gonna lie, JP has changed my life. Maybe in a minor way, but changed nonetheless. If only I had had access to this material 35 years ago, mine would have been a totally different (and much better) life. You young guys should take this shit seriously and sort yourselves out while there is still time. Make the sacrifice (of about 30 hours of your time) and the reward will be many times greater.

>>129241097
people care

>>129250771
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOF1DnRgZIb/?taken-by=madelineartist

she has some other nice stuff too.

>>129231349
Sounds like performance anxiety at being watched or judged and like you maybe had a parent who interrupted your natural concentration and attention processes. Do you feel comfortable looking in mirrors?

>>129258670
Some of us, like myself, grew up without a father figure present in our lives, and we're trying to figure out "how to be"

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>>129230017
Get in here or your mother will dye your shorts in her sleep

>>129275501

>>129263517
Interesting, I've had similar thoughts. But how do you grapple, then, with Creation? I struggle with it: is there a Divine Creator or can be it be explained purely with materialistic science? But if the latter, how then do you reconcile the belief that the most capital T True things are those that are archetypal/spiritual, not material?

>>129272875
You'd be surprised how incredibly amazing a person looks when you are genuinly in love with them.

Conversely, when someone is "good looking" and you see the evil in them, they will never be good looking again in your eyes.

So take heart, anon, get yourself sorted out, and that in itself will attract a lady that is worth your time and talent, and you hers.

Some of you seem to fail to realize that you don't have to be a Christian (or any other religion) if you aren't an atheist and vice-versa.

If you believe a higher power exists, but it's undefined, then you are agnostic.

you're welcome

>>129279013
Maybe consider another field where you can put more of the things you are better at to use, and with less coworkers around to make fun of you.

And if that isn't feasible, then just ignore the assholes that make fun of you and do the best you can.

When you say "gotten to the point..." do you mean things you used to remember now you can't? If so, you may want to consider getting a good checkup to be sure aren't anemic, or a thyroid issue, etc.

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>>129252101

It seems like the most obvious stuff in the world (no offense to him, more offense to progressives who deny it). I am pretty sure this is actually all obvious to most people. Probably even more to women than men who are in general less socially attuned, but that's probably the problem, women want to fit in with their social circle so much that they copy whatever they say and never dare to point out when they're saying dumb wrong things.

>>129231065
>coworkers
can't you just work alone? I mean that trade is not bad for going solo.

>>129246584

Fug, the meme philosopher knows about our Chinese cartoons.

>>129247643
>>129250771
>>129283205
>>129258199
https://madelineowen.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/jordan-scan-thumbnail_edited-1.jpg?w=840

Like the other anon said, she's got a bunch of great stuff.

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Which one of you did this?

>>129260861
>But she lived in East Europe and I won't move there, and she had like 100 people family there.
Why not? Eastern Europe is the new Western Europe.

And western Europe is the new Yugoslavia

>>129281391
>>129281845
Download some free software that lets you block certain sites. That's what I'll do.

I always need to "check /pol/ quickly to stay up to date" and suddenly I've wasted 10 hours and I have 36 archived threads open.

>>129287846
I saw that in his feed and I fucking laughed.

>>129285193

As Orwell said, the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious. I'm just glad he's bringing to the fore some of the stuff we've been talking about for years, most notably the fact male bell curves are flatter than females. Also the stuff about sjwism being an outcropping of female egalitarianism in raising kids.

>>129287846
I really wish this stupid mother fucker didn't try to latch on to the Kek shit

>>129242048
prozac will fry your brain. dont touch it

>>129247910
JPB deserves it, and it sounds like your room isn't very clean.

>>129279167

Ernest Becker wrote Denial of Death, but I see what you are getting at. Campbell flirted with nihilism more so than JBP, and believed that life was ultimately about survival and reproduction for the sake of it, but Campbell found life-affirming "meaning" in his life by reading the countless hero stories and myths and living by what these stories taught.

>>129288088
>this stupid mother fucker
you are like a little baby compared to him

>>129275727
It's a broader idea than just the other replies. If your room is already clean, there are still many things you can look at and improve.

>>129260904
keeping a journal is red pilled and a great traditional activity

>>129291070
y tho?

>>129281391
clean your fucking room

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How do I convince good people to procreate?

I know a decent pastor but he is afraid him and his wife are too old or risky for making a child.
They are at their 40s.

>>129256086
>>129255979
>>129255883
>>129255817
> didn't sort himself out

>>129292917
well for one thing he is ending the efforts of his ancestors since time immemorial. not fulfilling the one base purpose of life, to propagate more life.

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>>129231013
>Sad for your life
THAT'S THAT

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>>129253444
UMA DELIIIIICIA

>>129293394
Already told them that.
They kinda shoved it off because apparently I am just a naive 24yo.

>>129283073
There's absolutely nothing in any of JP's talks that speaks to the ontology of a god or gods...

Was an atheist, still am an atheist, but have gone form an anti-theist to an atheist who appreciates Christianity in general

>>129295927
Swallow the red pill and go agnostic instead.

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>>129287846
>statue merchant flogs his product on /pol/
I'll allow it.

>>129233622
Met my wife at 21. Married at 25. Kids at 33.

When we were young, we both thought we were liberals. ...turns out we were conservative all along. We just had fallen for the liberal meme.

Having responsibilities like a wife, kids and mortgage is a good way too realize degenerate liberalism is for losers and fags.

>>129296116
I've always been an agnostic atheist. People who say they are "agnostic" are either too stupid to understand that agnostic and atheist are not mutually exclusive, or are too pussy to use 'strong' words

>>129250617
It like 20 bucks for the entire program.

Quit being cheap to yourself.

The questions ARE simple. The hard part is giving honest answers.

>>129230574
Were you a student of his?

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>>129259877
This ...Digits confirm.

>>129260897
Peterson is here to bring order to the Kekian chaos we summoned.

Definitely a wiseman, probably a prophet

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>>129279356
>>129280324
If you are really in depression you should go to a doctor. Peterson will help you find a meaning, and that can help the process.
>why even try to force myself and fail
I have this problem. It was a lot worse before. What changed it for me was the Scott Adams (Dilbert man) approach. Basically, instead of setting goals and getting frustrated when failing, think of it as a system. Everyday you will do something that will make you better in the long run. The point is not to succeed, but to get better. Everytime you get better you improve your odds in the future. So if you do it, you did it. If you didn't do it, you still learned and will be better next time.
It sounds really stupid and obvious because it is, but this change of perspective helps a lot if failure gets you anxious.
His explanation is way better than mine, and his book has some other good unorthodoxical but obvious insights. I recommend checking it out for some real life tips while Peterson tackles the big stuff. It's a very easy read, so take a quick look and see if you think it can be valuabe. If it has, keep going.
Better explanation of the "systems" idea: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/102964992706/goals-vs-systems
Libgen link for the full book (.epub): https://libgen.pw/view.php?id=1047576
>>129293750
jajaja

>>129285193
That's like saying "everyone knows sex is good so there's no reason for me to try it out. "

A truth is a truth. It maybe obvious to you, but some people need to understand it in their own way.

>>129287846
I love you guys.

Don't ever change you crazy faggots.

>>129261166
>>cruise control 4 cool

The problem is finding a worthwhile goal, pisspond.

Stalin had five year plans too. In all seriousness, I always thought in the back of my mind Peterson doesn't ever like to admit there are talented people who can't find good jobs. I now realize why - he's a corporate consultant who helps hr departments "choose better employees". So, if you're looking to blame someone for why you no one wants to hire you if you've been out of work for over six months and are the wrong side of 30, here's your man.

>>129236478
This. Big shekels to be made in holding the new alt coins

>tfw someone with something actually meaningful to say who's been saying these things for literally decades succumbs to a sudden meteoric rise because of a single controversy, and then ends up being dismissed as a fad or flavour of the month purely because they got too big in too short a timeframe
>tfw trying to have an earnest discussion about his lectures but all people do is compile his mannerisms and most common phrases into shitty memes

I don't want to hear you post "bucko" and Lobsters for the hundredth time. Christ.

>>129248719
Check the wallpaper at the end of this article (the article also helps to get you sorted)

http://www.cgsociety.org/news/article/2640/getting-ready-for-the-vfx-industry-01-organization

Also, I'm in the messy part of the cleanup, so no screencaps for now!

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>>129287846
kek

>>129230017
In full disclosure, I haven't watched the video you posted but I did clean my house today. I actually clean it every Friday but that's besides the point. A lot of what I've heard from Peterson is just repackaged self help and goal setting. Everyone should find a self help author or speaker they like and occasionally revisit their books or speeches when they feel misguided. This is not to replace one's spirituality but to help them find purpose in the midst of the mundane. Peterson may speak to you, John Maxwell is who I prefer, some like Stephen Covey, other like Tony Robbins or Zig Ziggler. All of them are good in their own rite and depends on the consumer's personality as to whether the speaker's material is of value.

I will compliment Peterson on one concept others have not grasped, the motivation of fear. Fear of failure has been my biggest motivator my entire life. I've used it to accomplish things I never thought possible. Just by listening to Peterson mention he uses this to help motivate people, it reminded me that I could use fear to accomplish tasks I would normally procrastinate.

>>129230017

Here's someone's own public walkthrough -

http://fencingbearatprayer.blogspot.ca/2017/06/signal-virtue-beauty-and-beast.html

Don't feel bad if it sort of gives the questions to you free - JBP himself tweeted it.

>>129301598
Jordan gives out codes occasionally. Just pay the $30 for all 3, it'll probably be worth it. Or, look at the preview I posted in this thread for a fore-taste.

Personally, I think Peterson's biggest contribution hasn't been the future authoring program itself, but rather the statistics related to its results and the speculators elements for why it's returning those results. It's easy to say "people need goals", it's almost a truism at this point, but it's another thing to establish which demographics are most at risk of failure due to a lack of goals and why they don't have goals.

>>129287846
He can't be serious - I'll have to check his tweets now to see whether he lets on. His followers will have told him anyway, if he somehow didn't know.

>>129305669
You should watch his videos, he goes way deeper than a self help guy. He's a student of Carl Jung if you know who he was. Very deep shit

>>129288823
That's what I took from his myths stuff too (read a couple books) - those myths keep you company, they comfort you, make you feel you're not alone. It's too bad he couldn't have lived to see JBP, he would have loved what he came up with.

>>129293905
Yeah well if you don't take seriously the idea that it could come out badly and they have to abort it, or worse, raise it, then they /shouldn't/ take you seriously. 40s is pretty much too late, or else very risky.

>>129306528
I think Peterson needs to elaborate more on hell.

When he discusses his dissatisfaction with the terror management theory, stating that it's illogical that religion would conceive of hell or any other flavour of underworld if religion was an adaptive tool to prevent death anxiety, Peterson supposes that rather hell was a way of expressing society's understanding that there are most definitely things worse than death and the actions that can bring about those circumstances.

An alternative common critique of Christianity however is that heaven and hell are the incentivizing forces that gave Christianity its political power, which I don't think he does enough to address.

>>129307070
On his Bible series, I keep thinking he's reading his own meaning into the stories. Fair bunkum, but I just doubt the ancient Jew authors had that much depth to them. I mean, beyond resonating psychologically somehow. Finding a 'deep' interpretation of the trinity though, that's dumb if he thinks he's finding what's already there. The Trinity was a hodge podge way to cope with everything said about the various forms of God.

>>129307070
> heaven and hell are the incentivizing forces that gave Christianity its political power, which I don't think he does enough to address.

Yeah. He's using the audience to follow his own new JBP-style train of thought, he's not really just explaining the passages. That's already been done by others just fine of course.

>>129232265
This.
But know how not to let her run over you.

>>129231065
heres your first problem: you give too many fucks, learn to keep them to yourself

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Peterson is such a bloody legend

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>>129248719
Peterson will be proud of me.

>>129247910
Go home Stefan

>>129238620
you don't need drugs fuckwit you need a career

>>129308733
The Trinity is a stretch, but I don't think it's fair to reduce all of his meta analysis down to simply just-so storytelling. I think what's more important that he should be doing is corraborating common iconography across multiple faiths and then observe whether or not there's a biological or anthropological attribute that conforms to that iconography and the stories. So far his over-arching hypothesis has been that behaviours and even morality predate the myths themselves, and therefore the myths aren't arbitrary societal creations that decide a culture's morals rather the myths are attempts to codify the already in place morals by people who hadn't yet developed empirical research to explain the world. That the mythological aspects of the religion not being true didn't necessarily have to mean everything about the faiths themselves were arbitrary and that we've thrown the baby out with the bath water.
>>129308968
If I remember correctly in one of the interviews, I think it was JR but it might have been Harris, Peterson is discussing his annoyance with casual critique of religion and says something akin to "You can say religion was just a way of controlling the masses by way of superstition, and you'd technically be correct, but it's also fifty other things and it's foolish to dismiss it on those grounds".

I'd still like to see him asked about it though.

>>129304261
> In all seriousness, I always thought in the back of my mind Peterson doesn't ever like to admit there are talented people who can't find good jobs.
He has said this several times though, especially regarding creative individuals and entrepreneurs. Warns how insanely difficult it can be to actually sell something regardless of how good it is.

>>129309903
>listening to his talk about attempting to monetize his conscientiousness testing module earlier in his career
>it was actually a known phenomenon that how accurate and helpful your test is is inversely proportional to how much people are willing to use it as a form of testing

His conscientiousness lecture was neat and I legitimately hope he has success figuring out something about industriousness specifically.

I always thought that a good lab test for conscientiousness would involve procrastination, maybe I'll send him some questions asking what his lab has tried and failed with so far for conscientiousness testing.

>>129236948
I've been in this guys shoes. I'm also 34. I was let go from a job recently where I did the shittiest job I've ever done. I knew every day I was going to fuck off and not give a shit because I hated the place and my coworkers. I was relieved to be let go because I knew I'd get some severance pay. I developed extreme anxiety at this place because I hated the politics of the job and the catty female nature of the men I worked with.

Part of what anon needs to do is to take time to figure out what he wants his mark on the world to look like. What does he need to do in order to not look back on his life from his deathbed and say it wasn't worth it. Then just work to that end.

>>129248695
All of those have the same efficacy of a sugar pill in blind trials. Consider that.

>>129301365
idiotic thing to say, but believe whatever makes you sound smart, I guess

Does Peterson have any videos on Islam?

Not political videos, mythologically centered videos, especially ones explaining the origin of the Islamic faith and why it seems so diametrically opposed to Christianity's teachings and even the old testament's if all three are worshippers of the abrahamic God.

>>129232265
you're a fucking moron. 35 is the peak age for a man to find a younger wife, provided he's not a balding fat alcoholic POS.

Stop falling for the same-age marriage meme.

>>129247910
desu that would explain why so many posts sound off, almost testimonial-like

>>129261821
>virgin
>but taken
hahaha sucks to be your man

>>129272875
yeah, try to pick an actual goal besides basic reproduction

>>129283073
This reads like a testimonial shill post meant for r*ddit

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>>129248719

>>129292917
it's too late, it's evolution at work, with new evolutionary pressures against faggy people who can't be bothered to ever knock anyone up.

>>129311206
Actually you're half-right, it has somewhat of an effect on people with severe depressive episodes.
Your run down the mill standard depression isn't helped by those meds and yeah, there it's as efficient as a sugar pill.

Oy vey be a good goy. Dont think, just live like (((we))) tell you.
Sort yourselves out, be a good goy.
And dont forget to pay me so (((I))) can make 50k a month. Good goy

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>>129231013
Dude, he's a fucking clinical psychologist.

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>>129275727
If you want to be competent in life, first you need to be competent in your own space.
Competence is built outwards.
First clean up your room regularly, then fix your diet, then start working out, then work a lot, then help local community, save the white race yadda yadda.

It's all in small steps, cleaning your room is a good start.

>>129306374
Absolutely. That's how I've heard about his reauthoring program. I just haven't watched that because I enjoy his lectures. Eventually I'll check out his program but I'm having a hard time picturing him as a motivator.

>>129306374
I wasn't clear, my initial post was regarding his reauthorization program only. He's a hell of a professor.

>>129315418
Stephen Covey calls this same concept "spheres of influence" and I think he does a better job explaining it.

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>>129316475
See pic

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>>129260116

Never.

"Driven by the forces of love, the fragments of the world seek each other so that the world may come into being." - Pierre Tielhard De Chardin