>I think that abortion ends the life of a human being who

>He thinks that a fetus should be given human rights

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>>129190975
Fuck you, OP. Fucking scumbag.

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I personally believe that life is sacred. That's why I never masturbate, and even if I do, I make sure not to cum. Cumming is a waste of life.

Captcha totally related

There's a bunch of atheists and antitheists who call antiabortion laws the tyranny of Christian Sharia law.

As an an atheist, I just find that perspective so retarded. There's plenty of legitimate nonreligious reasons to oppose abortion. Call me back later when Christians start advocating for the death penalty for homosexuality and apostacy or cutting off the hands of thieves.

>>129191688
Checked & kek'd Republishits BTFO

abortions only bad if its a white baby

>>129191391
Well, they're pretty obviously humans.

>>129191688
I don't want government run healthcare. Liberals have trouble understanding this, but it's possible to get healthcare through your job, or purchase it yourself, or through charity if you can't afford it.

>>129191746
That's another moronic argument. Your semen is not a life, but a fertilized egg has its own unique DNA, and a different being than either parent.

>>129191391
>he thinks 23 paired chromosomes isn't human
science isn't on your side here.

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>>129190975

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>>129194135
>BUT YOU REPUBLICUNTS DON'T EVEN LIKE SCIENCE SO WHO CARES!

>>129190975

You should ask these people why it's bad for the baby to die after they're born, but not before.

>>129190975
Yes, it's a total strawman argument from the left. You can find life sacred without wanting a toxic welfare state. And it's usually women who say this, so best ignore them...

>>129194296
That's a weird way to agree with me. Atheists either deny science or assign no value to human life. It's amazing anyone still identifies as a fedora in current year.

>>129194332
A baby isn't alive before it's born retard.

>>129194296
that's not how that works retard.

(((climate change))) is a globalist tool of control where even questioning the narrative gets lib shits crazy.the question is if man made climate change is the MAIN cause. go fuck yourself

>>129194700
Science? Nah. Muh atheistic worldview and disregard for humanity.

If we gave everyone free birth control and sex ed the need for abortions would be super low. But a lot of people oppose that idea for some reason.

Personally, I hate poor people. I don't want poor people breeding. So I say we either give them condoms or we let them kill their fetuses.

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>>129194874
>This is what republitards think

>>129195156
>I think abortion is wrong.

>BUT YOU DON'T EVEN WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO TEACH KIDS ABOUT SEX AND GIVE THEM FREE CONDOMS! IF YOU HATE ABORTION, YOU HAVE TO LIKE FREE BIRTH CONTROL AND PUBLIC SEX ED! THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN BE AGAINST BOTH!

>>129195156
If we gave birth control out like candy to white women and gave every white male a reversible vasectomy - it'd be an extinction level event.

Illegal aliens are not citizen

You become a citizen after being born on American soil

The fetus is not yet born, ergo not a citizen

If you support deporting illegal aliens but are against abortion you are a hypocrite

>>129195069
Oh, so now Republitards are moralist. Go bomb Iraq and not take in refugees some more fatass.

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>>129195156
This

Niggers abort more often than whites, too.

I just wish Muslims and people who practice Islam would be more on board with aborting, but they aren't.

I believe it is murder and should be done recreationally

>>129195874
How is it murder? The baby isn't alive before it's born retard.

>>129195770
I care about all human lives anon, adversarial governments are different. Since you've abandoned your pro-infanticide argument , what other non related topics will you change the subject to next?

>>129190975
True. In the same time, banning abortion can have unfortunate results.
Unfortunately abortion is a necessary evil and it shouldn't be banned.
It also shouldn't be sponsored or encouraged especially by the state and definitely medical personal shouldn't be coerced into participating in the procedure against their will.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_770
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_orphans

>>129196096
American education

>>129190975
nice strawman

>a human being who has done nothing wrong
i don't believe a fetus is a "who", it is not a person yet.

some think this is a slippery slope of "well, your stance means that we should be allowed to terminate three-year-olds!", and i really dont think slippery slope arguments deserve the fucking time of day

>>129196096
It's more fun if it's murder

>>129196300
It's literally not alive

>>129195789
Believers don't abort, atheists and liberals are a self correcting problem. Since you don't reproduce,you have to recruit, much like faggots do.

>>129196431
i'm pro choice but you cant be this fucking stupid

it is absolutely alive

>>129196199
Uh... I don't even know what any of that means. Go bomb the middle east some more repuliturds.

>>129196457
show me one (1) mature adult gay or lesbian who was """recruited"""

>>129196508
The baby isn't alive dumb-dumb. Even scientists say it's not. Oh..forgot republicans don't like science.

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>>129191688
>Attempting to use Froppy for libtard memes

Stop it. Just kill yourself to assure us all you don't do it again.

>>129190975
Abortion would cause the population of niggers, retards, and other subhumans to explode, which would cause destabilization, massive amounts of crime, and would ruin the environment. If you are anti-abortion, you are a short sighted faggot basing your opinions on feefees instead of actual utilitarian effects.

>>129195156
Yeah, I'd rather buy condoms for myself. If you can't afford birth control keep your legs shut until you have some money.

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>not performing abortions by birthing the child directly into burning pile of coal

Let's get creative here people. I really have a problem with it more so because it's just so ugly and gross. Make it more cool somehow. Use M80s. Shoot em with poison darts and watch them squirm for a bit.

Ripping the thing apart while it's still inside and pulling little bits of it out is just too much honestly.

>>129196307
What a smart atheist. You've accepted that science isn't on your side and instead focused on the idea of "personhood" and how best to deny it of people. Just like stalin.

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>>129196763
Fuck off Nazi bitch.

if you think about it, the only people who'd get abortion are degenerates who:

1. couldn't plan ahead for contraception nor pregnancy

2. selfish cunt who value their own lifestyle over a life form that guarantees their genetic success

3. impressionable halfwits that would do nothing but to lower the quality of gene pool that are only getting abortion because their idiot parents think their child has a better chance at educating and being successful in life if they weren't hamstrung by parental responsibility.


people who we want breeding are the ones that are able to plan ahead, make proper concessions and preparations to raise and educate a healthy, intelligent child. these people were never likely to have abortions to begin with.

abortion takes away nothing if you really think about it.

>>129196096
>The baby isn't alive before it's born retard
Its not legally alive, but from a biological standpoint, it meets all the criteria of life. A fetus IS alive technically, its LEGAL status is exactly that, a LEGAL status. Being legally alive and being scientifically biologically alive are two different things.

>>129196740
im a fucking pro choice atheist. i need you to look up the dictionary definition of "alive" because it seems like you ditched high school biology

>>129196836
not an argument

>>129195720
Hold on.... are you saying... all fetuses are mexican?

>>129195770
>Go bomb Iraq and not take in refugees
You don't take refugees from countries you are at war with you moron!

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>>129196307
It does not have LEGAL person hood or rights, but on a scientific biological level level it is alive

>>129190975
Murder entails person, personhood is attained after birth, so no, you don't think it's murder, you feel it's murder and get triggered because your feelimgs are wrong.

>>129197016
Hahaha okay nigga. The baby can't even move bro it isn't alive. It's not legally alive science says so.


>>129197025
Science says it's not legally alive. I win the argument republicants

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>>129196431
It is LEGALLY not alive. Biologically it is indeed alive.

>>129195180
>being this brainwashed

the climate was fuckin way hotter in the past and mammals lived.

you support giving billions of $$ to turd world shitskins on an agreement that won't even do shit to the climate, because even your """"""climate models"""""" can't tell me if a hurricane is coming in 3 months, let alone the weather in three days. gas yourself

>>129196836
expounding further: barely anything about the abortion devate is scientific, apart from "when can the fetus sense/survive" research. it is almost 100% emotional.

it hurts your feefees that a blob of non-conscious flesh is terminated, it doesn't hurt mine

you think people who have stupid unprotected sex should be punished (???) by being forced to carry the pregancy to term, i think that's retarded and would rather focus on stopping them getting pregnant in the first place

none of these are scientific arguments

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>>129197319
>Science says it's not legally alive. I win the argument republicants
Science says it IS alive, only the LAW says it not alive.

>>129197325
Wrong. Science says it's not. Lil nigga can't even breath or move bruh it's not alive.

@129197319
okay this is clearly a shitposter, we can move on

>>129197325
your statement doesnt contradict mine
it is alive
it is not a person

>>129195770
>"Oh, you think I'm bad? Well, we're BOTH bad! Which means I'm not bad!"

lol

>>129197417
That not an argument. From the BIOLOGICAL point it is alive because it meats the criteria of the SCIENCE of biology. You are a science denier.

>>129197503
We didn't bomb Iraq dumbass. Enjoy your Russian president.

uterus is private property of a woman.

No one has right on others private property.
No one has right to live on someone else's expense.

Abortion is fine whether fetus is dead or alive.

>>129197627
My DOG is MY PROPERTY so i can kill it if i want however I want.

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Who cares about abortion, fuck women's rights

>>129196661
Literally every dye and sodomite is recruited. It's a mental illness that they spread Through abuse and propaganda .

>>129197717
You have right to kick him out of your property.

>>129197613
You don't have an argument. It doesn't even move bro. It's literally not alive.

>>129197737
Sexist pig

>>129197717
Dog is already alive. Fetus isnt.

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My dog my choice

>>129197839
And to kill the dog too by your argument, its my property.

>>129197620

I don't understand why you think that someone else bombing a foreign country gives you the right to murder babies in the womb. I just don't see the connection here.

You can stop trying to demonstrate one, though. I'm not really interested in hearing your retarded spergy garbage any longer :)

>>129197025
Personhood is the only argument you have, if that isn't an argument how is it still legal?

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>>129197921
A fetus meets all the same criteria to be biologically alive as a dog does.

I don't know if this has been commented already, but I think theres always a reason for abortion. A good reason like the parents are unable to provoide a good life for the child or it would be born with a bad disease or the mother would be in danger from giving birth. Why would we want a child in this world who would suffer because his/her parents are some alcoholic poor junkies that never wanted him/her.

>>129198078
If it doesn't go away from your property then yes you have right to kill. Same way you have right to kill home invader.

>>129198106
That's a funny way of saying "I have no argument"


>>129198154
Fetus is just a clump of cells. A dog is moving and breathing and has some concept of self

>>129198009
you dirty son of a bitch, delete this

>>129198178
Not only that.

If society forces woman to continue pregnancy it's basically slavery. Where women can't control own bodies

>>129198185
So If i buy a puppy from the petstore, that I now own, I can strangle it? Its my property.

>>129198300
Your a clump of cells. and fetuses do move.

>>129198315
So abort a baby OK, punch a dog, NOT OK.

libertarian position on abortion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evictionism

Woman doesn't have right to foot abortion bill on others and other people don't have right to prevent abortion.

>>129190975
Abortion and birth control should be banned for white people. Mixed and nonwhites should still get it if they want.

>>129197382
the science is 100% on the pro-life side, your feminist argument is based on twisted legal definitions of personhood And when it begins and when is murder ok? It always devolves into explaining to the childlike mind of the feminist/leftist why murder is wrong... or how societies have the right to pass laws based on their common morality.
>Blob of unconscious flesh

>>129197369
>""""""climate models"""""" can't tell me if a hurricane is coming in 3 months
holy shit. that's almost as stupid as trump's hairspray and ozone layer rant.

>>129190975

Choice, anon.

Choice.

People choose to get pregnant, so they're responsible for the child. Them, the 2 that fucked.

>>129198399
yes.
The same way you can buy a land and hunt all animals on it. You are just using puppy in example to call for an emotion. Nothing else.

If someone likes a puppy he will give you an offer to save The puppy. But yes.

Logically if you are allowed to eat animals I don't know why it should be strange if you kill them.

>>129190975
Let's keep abortion legal so niggers keep genociding themselves.
Your cooperation is appreciated. Thank You.

>>129198300
Note how the atheist always redefines life at every turn so they can deny it of whomever they want.

>>129198465
Nice argument Ben Shapiro. Easily debunked by saying science doesn't back by our claim.

>>129198331
Abortion_Pig.exe

>>129190975
Sure it is murder.
And that's not a terrible thing, as you can see many political traitors should be murdered.

Also, your stopping a life, a miserable life.
Parents (plural) should be able to raise a child in a loving way, I am very skeptical about any set of parents that can do this in this financial hell hole.

Kids are for the rich, fuck making slaves for the system to perpeturate and continue.

>>129199109
I don't think you have the right to decide that SOMEONE ELSE'S life isn't worth living.

>>129198930
Not really. Child doesn't have moral right on parents property.

Parents can give him away for adoption if they don't want to raise him. Society can't force parents.Basically such force will never work and parents will abuse unwanted child.

>>129199033

>atheist

Atheist here, and as soon as the fetus forms, it's a human.

Not all of us are retards that don't understand cause and effect.

>>129199252

Parents have the moral obligation to look after it.

If they don't, they're poor parents. If they kill the kid (whether born or unborn), they're murders. If they give it away, again, poor parents.

The state shouldn't be forced to look after it. The state can, if it wants, but the responsibility is ultimately on the parents or the people that accept to look after it.

>>129199213
In that train of thought, you do not have the right to raise the life either.
It raises itself.

>>129198178
>Why would we want a child in this world who would suffer because his/her parents are some alcoholic poor junkies that never wanted him/her.
Yeah, lets kill everyone in orphanages while we are at it

>>129192191
at the time a fetus is aborted, it's not conscious, so it's as much alive as semen

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>>129190975
>i think a fertilized egg should have rights
>i think a single human cell should have the same rights as a person

I only value life when it has consciousness more advanced than a cockroach.

Same reason why it's okay to kill off full retards.

Cry more lolbergturdians.

>>129199545
That's not the same thing at all.

It's true. Killing a baby in the worm is wrong but if you deliver it into a meat grinder that's okay with me.
>>129191688
>Liberals support giving children healthcare
>but kill them before they can get it
People are morons, news at 11.

>>129192191
So if i genetically modify my semen so that its DNA differs from mine, it is a human beeing?

>>129190975
>Doesn't fucking matter you murderous dyke, I believe that everyone should get a chance at life if life has given them a chance.

>>129199579
This argument would apply to adults sedated or asleep.
>>129199659
Why don't feminists understand basic science, cause and effect, or posses empathy emotion and morality? At some point we have to remove their "right " to an opinion.

>>129199454
So state has right to snatch food from parents plate and give to kid?

If that's The case how much money should state take yours to save poor homeless?

>nigger babby
>any babby other than white

into le trash it should go

>>129199664
An atheist who assigns no value to human life. Shocker. Blasphemers really should be prosecuted.

What makes the difference between an animal and a human?

>>129200992
Non-whites are not human

>>129200680
>This argument would apply to adults sedated or asleep.
Lmao no it wouldn't retard

>>129190975
I support abortion, it is popular among blacks.

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>>129200680
>Why don't feminists
I have no idea what you are trying to say or how it relates to what I wrote. I think you are confused.

>>129191806

It's also not explicitly in the bible.

Killing the unborn, or freshly born was a part of life in the bible.

>>129190975
People can murder their children right up to their 18th birthday for all i care. Fucking commie government telling people how to raise their own damn kids

>>129198856
not an argument kraut. thanks for destroying europe for the third time in 100 years

>>129190975
Abortion is murder. Moloch fucking worshippers.

>>129203034
>not an argument
if i have to explain how stupid your "argument" is, then you are too retarded to understand that explanation. i could as well try to explain to an flat earther why he's wrong.

>>129191746
What a baby. I still masturbate and then cum without feeling any remorse.

>>129203525
because you can't explain, and know your response will fall flat. It's OK though. I will sit back and just watch your country get enriched with more and more mudshits that you're importing into your country which is creating a larger carbon footprint according to your jewish science. your altruism will be the death of you, and i will laugh while muds are raping you all

>>129191391
Well I mean if you get them, why shouldn't a fetus?

>>129190975
abortion is, in its core, not the murder of a child, abortion is the termination of a pregnancy, i.e. stopping the fetus from 'leeching' off another's body. which is the reason the fetus dies off, not because it was murdered. nobody has the right to leech off someone else's body, not even your family.

basically, if you answer the question
>should a parent whose kid is in dire need of a kidney be forced by the state to give theirs to their child?
with yes and you are against abortion, you are consistent in your views. if you answer the former with no and are against abortion, then you literally give more rights to a fetus than to someone who is born. if you answer the question with 'they shouldn't be forced, they should do it voluntarily', read the question again and just give a fucking answer god damnit.

now i personally still find abortion a disturbing thing, especially since the 'termination of a pregnancy' in later stages of the pregnancy indeed turns into just ripping it from the mother's womb. pics like >>129194209 show that. i guess abortions should be limited to the point where the doctor can ensure that the process of abortion itself does not physically harm the fetus but it only dies off since it can't yet maintain itself without the mother.

>inb4 green texting 'not murder of a child' and go the feelz route

>>129204285
Thank you, anon.

I wish more people would ask themselves that very question--especially for a viable "fetus."

>>129204216
>because you can't explain
really makes you think

>>129204558
I agree. The fetus can be seen as parasitic because it is leeching off the mother and, as a libertarian, I believe that constitutes assault. In fact, you could say it is domestic violence and therefore the mother's thinking isn't clear.

How is it okay to hurt a woman just because you're a baby? Don't support domestic violence, support abortion.

#Pro-Abortion

>>129190975

Every fucking time you argue with liberals. If you say something to the effect of "I don't think welfare is the solution to this issue. What we need is education and jobs so people don't find themselves in this situation in the first place." you just get called an insensitive racist.

>>129190975
Because not giving people handouts is the same as murder right guys?

>>129190975
>Why should I have to support someone who made a bad decision? They knew the risks of pregnancy, but they went and had unprotected sex anyways.

I only support abortion for rape babies and niggers.

>>129191391
">He thinks that a fetus should be given human rights"

You do realize human and fetus are 2 different categories, right? One denotes stage of development, and the other denotes state of being. Your statement is equivalent to, "he thinks infants should be given rights". Besides, rights aren't given, their inherent.

>>129204285
Technically you don't have rights until you're born
It's "birthright citizenship" not "conception citizenship"

>>129201785
>he doesn't realize he's a feminist
>>129201146
Unconscious means not a person right? Your own logic fights you better than I could.

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>>129212322
>thinking that a single cell isn't a person makes you a feminist
thanks for your input

>>129191391
What gives anyone rights?

>>129213197
Note how the cuck recoils at his feminism being pointed out.

>>129212752
Barneyfags, this is your mindset

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Do you people have any idea how overrun with nogs we would be if not for abortion? Make up your mind already.

>>129191688
Man your picture is so fucking retarded. You think that republicans actually don't want people to have healthcare instead of just disagreeing with the best was to provide it to people. Like making it affordable and letting people choose to buy it on their own. Fucking retarded liberals

How many pro-aborters also support elective thalidomide use?

>>129206345
i was raped
*winks*
abortion now

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I believe that everyone should be locked in a box after they're born with no light or sound, just attach a tube to their stomach and pump them full of food that gives them exactly what they need to survive. This way everyone will be equal and we'll keep everyone safe and alive for the longest possible time.

>>129191688
Republicans pay for the healthcare for that child directly.
It's your own fault if you have a child you can't support. The governments job is not to babysit you and clean up after you when you shit in your own bed.

>>129214876
this profeminist logic is retarded. why are leftist fags and cucks like you unable to understsnd this?

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>>129190975
I know your a shill op but i actually agree with this.

I support abortion in niggers and muslims it will be forced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhkRQUtD_Jo

>>129215180
>every psychotic mother's dream
Better if there are hormones to stop growth in the pumped liquid

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>>129190975
no documentation = no human rights
you aren't a person or citizen with a social security card and birth certificate
no documents = undocumented alien with no rights

A fetus is a living human organism that is not a part of the mother's body. The science is absolutely clear on this, life begins with conception, there is no debate being lead on this topic. The "leech/parasite" comparisons are utterly idiotic. Abortion-supporters can only attempt grasping at straws by claiming that the existence of a human organism/being doesn't necessarily imply the existance of a human person.

t. medical doctor in a few months

>>129215180

you need relieving of that matrix boxset anon

>>129215862
>that is not a part of the mother's body
then pull it out and see if it lives

>>129215862
Science is clear that the moment 23 pairs of chromosome are formed that make you uniquely human, you are a life. This always devolves into explaining to a leftist why murder is wrong, they are literally children.

>>129215862
>pro-life doctor
>vomits
just wait till you encounter your first case involving euthanasia

>>129216200
you lost roe v wade and it's not getting overturned
deal with it, faggot

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>>129196928
Fuck off communist dildo muncher

>>129197319
>science says it's not legally alive
What the actual fuck are you trying to say, you 80 IQ retard?
Science does not say anything about the law, how the fuck did you get so stupid, do you sniff petrol?

>>129216265
I'd say that most Croatian doctors are pro-lifers, or at least half. Literally all of them agree that abortion is a horrible ordeal that should be avoided whenever possible, including the pro-choice ones. There are hospitals in Croatia where all gynocologists refuse to perform any abortions.

>>129215862
>t. medical doctor in a few months
and pls stay in your shithole

>>129216308
You applaud a jewish majority court dictating feminist cruelty as law? RvW gets overturned after trumps appointmentS

>>129215862
Muh precious human life
Muh babies is so precious

>>129216308
Nothing stopping them from revisiting it with new judges, suck a dick niggletroidasourus

>I can slaughter countless animals to consume their flesh and for sport
>but god forbid if I want to kill a baby!

>>129190975
Unless you pay for me to kill my baby you have to pay for me to raise my kid.

Classy.

>>129217018
>thinks animals are people
Ok so you support anti abortion AND veganism, or you're just a hypocritical retard who can't even make an argument?

>>129216857
An atheist who assigns zero value to human life?
every. single. time.

>>129217018
Pro tip when you make a retard meme like that, you actually have to support both causes or neither cause, not to mention those two causes are mutually exclusive.

>>129216801
Yes, should be avoided
But please kill the fetuses with serious birth defects or carried by degenerate drug addict mothers

>>129217018
Congratulations
You win the worst debater award

>>129190975
What is a human?

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>>129191391
>a fetus isn't a human because I use soulless words like fetus, embryo, blastocyst & bundle of cells to describe it

What is it then, a carrot that magically turns into a human at a certain point?
It's a basketball before it meets your arbitrary criteria you've defined as human?
Fetus, embryo, blastocyst... It's all the same thing but in different stages: Human Life.
Saying it isn't human because muh heartbeat, or muh brainwaves is literally dance around the fire worshipping Mother Earth and astrology tier.

>>129217190
>let's stop killing fetuses we're not selfish!!
>but fuck animals it's ok to kill them!!!

>>129217215
>unironically being religious

Do you believe in fairies and unicorns too, faggot?

How about you stop acting like us humans are so important when we're just tiny specks of dirt in the universe?

>>129217271
Atheist whims don't determine who is and who isn't a human being. People like you deserve immediate execution to limit the harm you do to the world with your existence.

>Some people: "just because an egg is fertilized doesn't mean it has 'life,' it's not a real life until birth you dummy"
>Those same people: "OMG did you read the news about NASA finding life on Mars??? It's totally cool how life finds a way in those harsh conditions!"

>>129217789
>ending a human life before it comes into existence so it doesn't have to endure years of suffering is a bad thing

Why are you faggots so afraid of death?

>>129216849
>>129216984
you sound like buttblasted SJW's pissing their pants about the 2nd amendment
roe v wade and the 2nd amendment are both in stone at this point
give up
murder is the law, nigger

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>>129218405
>be liberal
>jerk off to the idea of radical leftist revolution, rewriting the constitution, taking guns, and silencing opposition
>only argument against the right is "hurrrrr that's illegal tho hurrrr"
>>129217816
>>129218206
>animals are people and deserve human rights
>we should be able to indiscriminately kill humans because solely because their existence is inconvenient for me.

>>129218245
>muh edge

Your argument is; he may have a bad day, week, month or life, so let's kill them.
Your hands may get dirty too, does that mean you feel like you should cut them off?
Or why don't you just go ahead and kill yourself all together because at any moment your quality of life could significantly worsen.
So go ahead pussy kill yourself or are you afraid of death like a faggot?

>>129198659
>the crime of deliberately killing a person
The language here is too stringent. Not every deliberate homicide is a crime.

A law dictionary would be more useful here, since you appear to be trying to determine the legal status of a fetus.

>>129218206
Not you, I meant this one
>>129218245

OP, you're using a lot of my anti-abortion rhetoric that I used to spam here. I no longer give a shit if a fetus is killed or not. I'm a hypocritical meat-eater and as far as I can discern all life is trash.

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>>129219301
>animals are people
Lmao why do people think this is an argument?

>>129195461

You cant realistically have it both ways dude. If people dont have free birth control they're just going to fuck anyways because they're idiots. So either you have more abortions or you have to pay for condoms for them.

>>129219476
>people aren't animals
I feel sorry for your brain.

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>>129215325
Pepperbellies will outbreed us and we will be minorities in our own country within the next 20-30 years. For whatever reason, wetbacks ignore any tenants of Catholicism that derides promiscuous activity and general degeneracy, but hold steady to anything 'pro-life'.

Niggers never had that problem; guns, abortion, and a general lack of respect for any and all life makes them pretty much defacto self-cleaning ovens. They're a problem that mostly takes care of itself.

The sheer idiocy of you clowns fucking amazes me. Our enemies are currently commiting genocide on their own future generations. Not to mention that if these sheboons didn't get the scrape, you'd all be whining about the crimes commited by and the taxpayer-funded resources that would go into raising some single mother's bastard.

Not to worry though. Like I said: taco benders don't abort. You want so bad to be outnumbered and colonized by a lesser race comprised of the multiple offspring begat by tatted-up single moms, just give it a few more decades.

Might want to be careful what you wish for, though.

>>129219738
>red is a color, therefore all colours are red
Nigger go back to africa

>>129204558
Holy shit I hope this is trolling. You do understand that children are physically and legally dependant on adults long after they pass through the vaginal crease? The mother is held responsible for the death of a child if they are, for instance left in a hot car. The child can still "leaching" of the parent into early teens. With your logic a parent should be able to order the euthanasia of their preteen-teenage child.

>>129220072
>being this fallacious
Nobody is talking about colours. We're talking about the inherent value of life. I just don't discriminate.

>>129220594
No we're talking about how retarded you are for thinking that because people = animals, animals =people. The ability to recognize that because A is a letter or red is a color but vice versa is not true, is a basic part of iq testing, obviously you are a nigger.

>>129220594
Different species eat different species that is natural law, and you're retarded for seeing nature as morally defective. If you want to stop humans from eating animals, but don't want to stop animals from eating other animals, you're more retarded than an SJW

>>129221095
Do you literally believe one genetic code is inherently more valuable than another? Believing that is akin to believing retards are sub-human, something your ideology purports to disbelieve. Each creature serves its purpose and so does its death.

>>129221415
Apparently you're the one who sees nature as morally defective, given your aversion to abortion.

>>129221513
>strawmanning
>false assumptions about my ideology
Never change, niggers, never change.
Did I ever say that abortion is okay if the child is retarded? Nope.
>>129221652
Tell me more about how the urge to mutilate your unborn child is completely natural for humans, and that it's in our biological nature to rip children out of mothers' wombs, but it's not nature for humans to eat meat when we evolved without hair for the sole purpose of long distance running to catch up to other animals when they run out of energy so we can eat them to survive.

>>129221916
In fact we used to be more brutal, killing them after they were born. Read up a bit. I see the hypocrisy of the pro-choice crowd. I'm just no longer sure either side of the debate is correct.

>>129216146
you are not part of the food you eat as well but if i pull all the food out from your body you are gonna die.

the newborn is out of his mother but without milk is going to die.

nobody is independent from everything else.

the fetus needs a bit more to live then the newborn, the newborn needs a bit more then the teenager and so on.
that does not make him a part of his mother.

>>129218245
why are you?
an argument you use for abortion is inc ase of danger to the mother.
since we should not be afraid of death then you are going to drop that right?

personally i dont care for abortion, i think its a right, however i also support euthanasia and death penalty.
its hypocrisy that disturbs me.

>>129222188
Yes an many cultures punished it because it was disgusting and unjust since they recognized the child inside as living.
Did we EVOLVE to kill babies, or did we make tools to do it because nature did not give us the tools?

>>129190975
Since a fetus is not born yet, it is therefore not a citizen, but an illegal alien.
Therefore, if the government isn't protecting illegal aliens, then the fetus could be killed because it is trespassing on American soil and potentially a national security liability.

>>129223007
Plus, the government reserves the right to deport said fetus. Which is analogous to abortion.

>>129222798
Did beavers not evolve to build dams? You're saying that all creatures are natural, but some are more natural than others. You're in a world of mental gymnastics, just like a fucking SJW.

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>>129223007
DEPORT ALL FETUSES

>>129194700
holy fuck this the dumbest fucking thing ive read this year

>>129219811
Not one to samefag, but can anyone refute the indisputable logic in this post?

Why is it that someone can pretend to be a bitch, a nigger, or a Muslim and be innundated with responses, but a post like this that easily shuts down anyone advocating for abortion to be banned in America goes unremarked upon?

Tell me why Whites becoming a minority in America is a good thing. Tell me why you detest social misfits and criminals fucked from birth by being raised by some crackhead single mother but yet you advocate against abortion? Tell me why a bunch of Illegals flying mexican flags who can't speak a word of English but know exactly where the fuck to go to get their gas bill paid for free or their ebt card to sell at 50 cents on the dollar should be able to shit out more mewling malformed vertically-challenged future welfare leeches from their diseased gaping brown twats that we the taxpayer will be ultimately be responsible for.

I know something has been askew with this place since around 2012, but even then people at least pretended to have the courage of their convictions and argue their 'point'.

So come on, fellow White nationalist Christians longing for a better world. Explain yourselves.

>>129223226
>still thinks animals deserve human rights but we should kill humans indiscriminately, but I'm doing mental gymnastics
Yes beavers did evolve to take down trees and shit, are you fucking autistic? What does this point even prove?
No I am not at all saying some creatures are more natural than others, you're just retarded, how the fuck am I saying some creatures are more natural than others?

>>129223477
>muh criminal babies
People should be punished for poor decisions. It was after the introduction of abortion rights and sexual liberation that single motherhood and birth out of wedlock increased across the board for all races, why are YOU so fucking retarded that you think more of the same will reverse the problem?

>>129223477
>muh more Mexicans
Mexicans are fine if they are in Mexico, however I'm not explicitly a white nationalist, I don't care if the other races are around because they're easy to compete with, as long as the laws don't support them and push whites down we will naturally dominate them.

>>129224180
You either didn't read my entire post, didn't understand it, or one or both of us need to elucidate further.

Give it another shot, and keep in mind that my main grievances are the hypocrisy of the board when it comes to abortion and the inability to coherently argue a point without memes and ad-hominems.

I'm looking at this from a /pol/ perspective. I'm not calling all shitskin babies of drug-addled single mothers
with multiple other children from multiple other often incarcerated partners criminals (despite the statistical probability that many of them will be). What I'm saying is that abortion is ultimately a good thing for the White race, and if these pro-life cunts would step off their high horses for a second, they would see that.

I can see leftist We Are The World types advocating for outlawing abortion, but the hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness of /pol/acks being against what in many ways is a racial and classist eugenics program smacks of either infiltration, naivety, or (hopefully) just a case of being misinformed.

There will always be a need for abortions. Keeping them legal is the safest way for a woman to healthily abort. If it is made illegal many women will fly to another country to get one or get back alley abortions.

>>129224508
>Mexicans are fine if they are in Mexico,

Easy to say when you're in Canada. Take a little trip to Albuquerque some day. Spend a little time in the North Valley. Or the Westside. Or the Warzone. Or the Skies or the South Valley or fucking anywhere. You'll change your tune quick.

You want to see what America will look like in a couple scores? Check out El Paso or San Diego or Phoenix or the 505. Nobody gives a fuck now, but they will a lot sooner than they think.

It's too late to stop it now, but maybe Trump can stop the bleeding a bit with the Wall. Not holding my breath though.

>>129204558
>should a parent whose kid is in dire need of a kidney be forced by the state to give theirs to their child?

most likely they're not in dire need of a kidney because of the choices made by their parents, and giving birth does not have the long-term consequences of giving up an organ

carrying out an abortion is more likely to hurt the woman, leaving her infertile

>>129190975
>>I think that abortion ends the life of a human being who has none nothing wrong. Therefore, I believe the practice is murder, and should be outlawed.

you believe wrong

>>129190975
>>O-OH YEAH? WELL YOU DON'T EVEN SUPPORT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE OR FOOD STAMPS, YOU'RE ONLY PRO-LIFE BEFORE THEY'RE BORN, YOU DON'T CARE IF THEY DIE AFTER THAT!
It's called getting a mcjob.

Where does this idea of manna from heaven come from?

"Pay money to keep people I like alive and pay money to kill people I don't like. You have no choice, do it because I say so."

>>129226593
>/pol/ is one person
>you must defend the strawman character of /pol/ I presented.
No.

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>>129190975

But when can you call it a baby?

Most cucks fail at this point and their whole redderick falls apart. I am not taking positions, but asking one of the very important questions.

>>129218405
Comparing infanticide to the Bill of Rights is a new one. Liberal Logic.
>>129219811
White people, at this point, have no future. For this to change white women must have either their rights removed or religious shame reinstilled. The actions or inactions of other races will not affect this. Dictating your feminist ideals will not (as I'm sure you're aware) change this, but will only make it worse. Explain how fighting for feminists rights to infanticide humbles white women, whose inherent flaw is feminist arrogance?

>Be a pro-life democrat
>Entire party hates you and will oust you if you gain any real support

I don't understand Blue Steel Democrats, DFC, or pro-lifers on the democrats side. May as well just join Republicans as they are OK with accepting someone who's liberal-leaning once in awhile.

>being against abortion
>wanting to get suckered into child support
>having a cuckold fetish

Pick three, OP

>>129197222
>>129197325
>>129197396
>>129198154
Please explain how a fetus checks off on homeostasis and reproduction. By that picture, no one has human rights until they reach puberty.

>>129230616
Blacks that identify as Christians vote for abortion... mysteries abound.
>>129230874
Murder is wrong. When you grow up you'll understand.

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>>129190975

Old: "abortions infringe human rights; criminalize abortion"
Bold: "human rights infringe nature; legalize abortion"

>>129191688
>everyone else should pay for my shit
Fuck off back to double chan commie faggot

>>129199041
>Easily debunked

Who's got the webm of a moving fetus?

>>129232923
Please no. Atheist abortionists just fap to it and it shits up the thread. These people have zero morality, thus nothing will change their minds.

>>129229714
You're reading comprehension is seriously lacking, and I was talking to you, not the collective.

I realize /pol/ isn't one person. You are probably the only natural born female here, and I wouldn't deign to take that away from you.

>>129233939
>be male
>not allowed to decry murder
What?

>>129233498
>it shits up the thread
This thread was bound to be shit the moment OP decided to make it about abortion. It's a non-issue only lunatics care about.

>>129226999
I never thought I would see a nuanced opinion in one of these threads. Thank you.
It is unfortunately true that while abortions are a monstrous thing to do, having them be legal is the way that saves the most lives in the end.
This in no way means that they should be taxpayer funded. If an individual chooses to support his local clinic, that's understandable, but it should always be a choice.

>>129226999
>If it is made illegal many women will fly to another country to get one or get back alley abortions.
Who cares?

>>129235127
You are a godless degenerate. You and people like you are the reason your country is falling.

>>129234448
Not sure why I criticized your reading comprehension, honey. You're clearly on top of everything and make perfect sense.

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A liberal will tell you that a single cell in Mars is life but a growing, moving fetus inside living mother is not.

Not one thing in this world is more degenerate than abortion

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>>129240583
That's funny because I think we're doing fine and your country is failing because of lunatics like you. I guess we agree to disagree on that.

>>129241775
>Germany
>doing fine
Wew
>>129241613
Reddit misses you.

>>129235127
>It's a non-issue only lunatics care about.
Yep, only the insane would advocate killing babies for convenience

>>129245851
>single cells
>babies
This is what I mean by lunatics.

>>129190975
>>129190975
No lives matter.
Checkem