Thinking of coversion and giving up on atheism. Which religion

>>128927949
islam

>>128927949

Seriously, try Sikhi. Basics of Sikhi on jewtube.

>everyone has a weapon to defend themselves and others
>tl;dr remember god, work hard, help others
>gorgeous scripture
>pilgrimages, rituals, fasting are all useless -- just draw closer to god
>god is everywhere and in everyone

It is the only thing that ever came close to making sense to me, as a cradle atheist.

Good luck. Having God as part of your life isn't easy though if you're used to a lifetime of not having it. But there are rewards.

Dude you are not selecting the next video game to play.
If you don't know which religion you like you don't believe anyways.
Go join a club or get a hobby instead

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Tengriism

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Gnostic Christianism. No degeneracy, no LARPing, no cuckoldry, no multicultism, and a deep and daily strive for ancient knowledge, good stoic values and inner strenght while getting in contact with higher forms of being and becoming, Jesus Christ (Jupiter) while honoring your ancestors.

Pills are for mundane subhumans. Jupiter gives the ultimate food for the soul of the aryan man.

>>128927949
If only i had the ignorance to be able to choose what i believe.

If you can however, why not just come up with your own religion and convince yourself that the afterlife that is the perfect place for you can only be reached if you off yourself right now.
Would be 1 less idiot on the planet and we could really use less idiots.

>>128927949
Catholicism. Everyone hates us so we must be doing something right

>>128933384
If you do a billion things atleast one of them is bound to be right, but i bet its the systematic raping of children and overall ignorance that make people hate you, doings things right would make people like and join you.

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>>128927949
Islam

You will get to rape Christ-chan

>>128933755
Believe me, everythong post-second council is shit. They literally destroyed the religion and had the kikes infiltrate it. I risk saying the roman catholicism is beyond salvation now.
The SSPX is OK, though.

You can't choose your belief. You can try to convince yourself to believe, but to do that you need evidence. There is no compelling evidence for any Religion, thus you will never become convinced if you really care what's true.

But you're welcomed to attempt to delude yourself with fairy tales.

>>128927949
read the new testament

nothing else on earth matters

>>128934124
With science all religions are beyond salvation, to keep religions you need to destroy science and breed out smart people, basically destroy everything we humans are proud of, just to keep a childish belief.
If that does happen, im glad im not going to be there to witness it.

>>128933755
>You. are. a. moron
Fedora atheist strikes again.
Religion = traditionalism
all the atheist countries (germany, sweden etc) are degenerate and traditionless.
Religion is like a culture and community no one uses it for science in the modern world. Choosing religion is cool you don't even have to believe in god. Just convert and enter a traditional community. plus atheist are the most leftist demographic in the world

>>128934292
But Jesus told me to follow the Old Law of the Old Testament. Why are you cherrypicking what you like in Christianity?

>>128934772
They're working on it. The Jews are wishing for a mud-brown race of 80 IQ simpletons to rule over, and the only Religion will be Judaism.

>>128932195
Your a retard, do you think pagan beleive in thor and odin.
no they just want to spiritually and culturally connect with their ancestors
fedorafags are retards
An atheist society is retarted and hollow that why they have thier own religions: leftism and trans-humanism

>>128934772
yeah, yeah. All that "but it's 2017 already, we are sooooo enlightened because of SCIENCE!!!™ and CYVIL RITES MANG!!!! Ancestors were stupid bcuz dey worshipped kikes on sticks and old trees lmao bunch of retards"
Cut the crap, untermensch.

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>>128929520
militant kekism.
Take psychedelics/hallucinogens at every meal, lift, and pray to KEK 1488 times a day until you have a religious experience and write a holy book.

Alternatively, check out your local Orthodox and Traditionalist Catholic churches or pursue your predominant ethnicity's pagan religion informed by Hindu practices, or find a 3D waifu and convert to whatever religion she follows. It might be a good idea to get into whichever religion you think will produce the kind of woman you're interested in.

-t. godless single NEET born to rootless atheists

>>128934863
>Religion = traditionalism
Traditions aren't always a good thing, like circumcision.
>Fedora atheist strikes again.
Deus Vult how's your sword and shield Mr. Larper
>all the atheist countries (germany, sweden etc) are degenerate
They had and most still have some of the highest quality of life in the world, and were targeted specifically due to their success. Weimar Germany became the center of degeneracy back when most Germans were Christians, simply because of the influence of the Jews. Atheism doesn't cause degeneracy just because degenerates use Atheism as an excuse.
> Choosing religion is cool you don't even have to believe in god.
APOSTATE! BURN IN HELL! LOWER CASE G! OH MY GOD!

>>128933755
>>128933755
No one cares about being right, religion is a moral foundation not the scientific method. Dude am studying chemisty and i've athiest for my life, and i think conversion is the best thing i can do right now, does this mean ill use the bible instead of my periodic table? THINK for once fedorafag

>>128934863
So fuck truth and learning is what you are basically saying as long as we keep doing the same shit people 1000 years ago did because its "the tradition".
I could agree that religion was needed at some point, but not anymore, or is it not 2017?

Unironically Hinduism. Christcucks have only ever read the Bible

>>128931995
>Gnostic
>"le badass secret cult info! look out for what le jews don't want you to know! xD"
>no larping

>>128935416
>No one cares about being right
i do and if you do too, maybe not as much, which is really weird considering you are studying chemistry, wouldnt want you to blow yourself up because you took something on faith instead of reading the label.

Also who was talking about morals? morality is about wellbeing.

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>>128935416
Common sense is a moral foundation. Religion is a tool for corrupting and controlling thought.

>>128935317
What exactly was your point there?
that the year doesnt matter? well thanks captain obvious.

>>128933859
>flag

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>>128927949
Be agnostic, get along with most people. Though I used to lean more towards the atheist side when younger (no I'm not not gay or scared of nature), I now lean more towards creation, maybe not like holy books say but similar concepts but without all the cool stories. It's weird because I have an old childhood friend who is a die hard atheist but he goes to church because he says he likes the stories and the activities, making friends and all of that. But then again he's also more of a people person than most people are too. I never made too big a deal out of who believes or doesn't believe what. Everyone knows intelligence is good but there is something to be said that is never said for wisdom and things learned only through repeated experiences and noticing things that I never noticed at all when younger.

>>128935770
It's not secret. It's literally the common core between the catholic bible, the nag hammadi, the laws of manu, the bhagavad-gita, to name the ones I remember (still a rookie into this, as you can see). It's just not widespread because many people don't care about it and the catholic church treated it as heresy for centuries on end.
Jews couldn't give a damn if we know the truth or not. Only knowing wouldn't make anything better. (((Saturn))) in still the ruler of this planet, and unless we put our faith in Jesus and know how to decipher the lies of this evil world (mind I still don't), we're bound to him eternally since the end of times (or the start of another cycle).

>>128935451
Religion is NOT science and is not used for science. Science is objectivity.
Religion = community
left hates that
I have said before the faith doesn't matter, you can be a agnostic or believe in an einstienian type of god.
the community is what matter. White people convert to islam cause of the close knit community who have each others backs.
You are strawmaning me as a cretionists when i don't care about the content of the holy book
I care about trad + community
trad to protect the trad family

>>128927949
>shopping around for a religion

doesn't that give the game away that you know for a fact that it's not real?

aren't you meant to le feel it in your le soul?

also islam so you don't have to pay the jizya

>>128936453
>until the end of times
Fixed.

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>>128936269
Agnostic isn't a belief position. Atheism and Theism are the two options. You're an Atheist.

Specifically, you're an Agnostic Atheist. You can only be a Theist if you have an active belief in God(s), if you lack a belief and aren't sure then you're technically an Atheist, even though you're agnostic.

>>128936269
Please, stop using the word agnostic, its super irrelevant in most discussions, every sane person is agnostic, or do you take people who claim to know god with absolute certainty?
not only is that quite dishonest, its also impossible.

>>128928652
>flag
mashallah brother

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>>128936453
well spoken, you will get a bunch of ignorant morons and/or shills that will try hard to argue with you. moito brigado.

>>128927949
Why do you have to join a religion? Christianity has great moral values but also has some absolutely ridiculous things in the Bible. Just acknowledge there's a "creator" or something greater out there than you and try to live the best life possible

>>128927949

nice man..go for protestantism

its funny tho, if OP is serious, this indicates how atheism and socialism has put christianity to a second place, which is one of the reasons why we are experiencing the political and social effects that we are.

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>>128927949
Asatru if youre white.
The rest are good goyim tales

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>>128927949
Puritanism is the only true way

>>128936745
>Just acknowledge there's a "creator" or something greater out there than you and try to live the best life possible

Why, that's exactly what the luciferian bankers do! Christianity is the OTR.

>>128936575
you cant have community without religion? Hah, you can have everything without religion. Name me one positive thing we cant have without religion.

Also, i really dont even see how community is relevant in this discussion, you can find all kinds of communities, religion, atheist or just fucking get a hobby or join a book club.
Fuck, even /pol/ is a community.

If community is what you want, do not look at religions unless of course you are a master of lying and dont care about being in a group where if people knew what you really thought, they would hate you and get rid of you.

>>128934153
You just happen to ignore all the things in the Bible which have been proven true including the fact that Egyptian carts were found at the bottom of the Red Sea and dated back to that exact period

>>128927949
>Which religion is the best.
Christianity, unironicaly.
But, if you're joing a religion just because of its principles or doctrine, you will be better of as an agnostic.
Join christianity only if you truly belive, or at least want to belive, in the God it preachs.
We don't need infidels pretending to believe our God.

>>128937290
Atheist Experience doesn't count as community! Just because they have a club and meet every week and share common values doesn't make them a community!

It's this slave-herd mentality that destroys people. They think everything good comes from Religion and everything bad comes from lack of Religion. It's so fucking retarded and illogical. Talk about begging the question.

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>>128927949
Why don't you try being a crypto kike like Trump

>>128931250
^This

>>128937385
Yeah and what about the vast majority which has been proven false? That's all ok we'll forget about it because someone found some carts from a well-known Empire.

>>128937535
Define community for me please.
i dont know much about atheist experience but that sure does sound like a community to me.

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>>128927949
Based Luther guides the way.

>>128937229
There's absolutely ridiculous things in the Bible. Women not being able to wear multi colored textiles, not being able to shave the sides of your head, not plowing certain parts of your farm. Overall it has a good message and certain parts have been proven true but don't deny there's ridiculous shit in there too

>>128927949
Go With Orthodox Christianity. Highly traditional, no pope, beautiful music, ascetic, and a very long history.

>>128935372
were they trying to take the most troll pic ever or do they actually treat guns like a bunch of animals? ive never even joked like that before id feel like i was committing a sin against god

>>128937718
Yea they just happen to be found from the exact same period and in a very small range at the bottom of the red sea. Even scientists acknowledge it happened but say that a volcanic eruption at the time is what caused the sudden decrease and rise of the red sea

>>128937859
Atheist Experience is a live call-in show that's been hosted out of Texas for over a decade now. There are several hosts who take turns hosting each week, the main guy is Matt Dillahunty. If you watch an episode of youtube you'll get the drift. Each week retarded creationists call in using terrible arguments that have been debunked since 1900 and they refuse to listen to the answers while repeating the same question over and over.

But yes, they do have an Atheist Community of Austin which they're compared to "Atheist Church without the dogma."

>>128928652
FPBP. Love from your fellow Swedish Muslim.

>>128938402
So because the Bible mentions stuff that happened we can throw out the 99% that didn't happen? Also what about Noah's Ark, I thought that had been discovered 9 times already? And there was no global flood.

>>128938402
>watch carts fall into the sea
>go back home and tell all the guys "it was crazy, there was land there and then the water came right over it and knocked our carts in the water"
>>story gets exaggerated for a couple generations
>"yea fucking god literally split the water open and then got mad and closed it on us it was crazy as heck"

>>128927949
go with christianity, but don't get caught up in the denomination. the sermon on the mount is the important part, everything else is just further explanation or a mistake. christ was an anarchist (not antifa style crypto-marxist), don't fall for the passive hippie christ meme. churches are often an abomination of christ's teachings so be skeptical of anyone who asks for money too openly or too often. good luck, OP.

just read the bible, if you must join a group find an orthodox christian group

>>128938500
I've seen some videos of that, just dont know what else they do besides the show, i think i've even seen Matt do an actual debate, it was painfull to watch.

But thanks for clearing up that they DO have a community.

>>128927949
The only religions I respect our Catholicism, and paganism
If you're not very serious about tradition and social conservative values, pick paganism. If you believe that a doctrine of strict social conservative values is the most effective way to conduct your life and what you would like to give to your children then you pick catholicism

>>128939025
They mention almost every episode about meeting at Thread gills or some kind of restaurant after the show and they always mention the Atheist Community of Austin.

>>128927949
Islam.

>>128939151
Paganism emphasize this group identity, Catholicism emphasizes social conservative values

>>128933859
>packs refugees serial gangbang

That would be so hot

>>128938674
The ark also has credibility. It was a story from when most humans lived around the Persian gulf. Scientists have proven at one point there was a massive flood in that region. If you lived there during that time you would've thought that the entire world flooded. You just happen to ignore the big bang theory which was first introduced by Christianity, then a catholic professor and then accepted by nearly everyone in the scientific community. I get you're a depressed atheist neckbeard but the truth is you have no more answers that anyone else. You're just another cult

>>128939198
yes i know, which is why i questioned you when you said
>Atheist Experience doesn't count as community! Just because they have a club and meet every week and share common values doesn't make them a community!
and asked you to defind community for me, as english is not my first language i thought i might not fully understand the meaning of the word, i dont get to use it very often.
In the end it looks like we agree.

>>128936093
>common sense
also known as christian values that are so ingrained in western civilization they get taken for granted on a near constant basis. there is no such thing as common sense, in reality. you were born a blank slate and filled with the (christian) ideas and values of society as you grew up.

>>128935064
Paganism is strong in group identity, and if you want a moral doctrine, although Paganism doesn't have one, it does allow you to use the best interests of the group as a guide for your morality.
Simply conduct your life and raise your kids to prioritize what is best for their group when making moral decisions, and you can get an element of social conservatism out of that, but you will need to join the Pagan conversation and discuss developing traditions and customs in order to instill that culture more thoroughly in yourself and your children

>>128938713
Our carts? It was a story by jews who escaped slavery by Egyptians moron

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>>128927949
Esoteric Hitlerism

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>>128927949
Honestly paganism is pretty sweet if you wan't a lot of money. You can raid any non-paga neighbors any time you want, and conquer them freely without the need for a casus belli.

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It's a personal choice. Religion is a personal experience and there are thousands of ways to reach the same fulfillment. Whether you find yourself called to Christianity or Pastafarianism it's not something that you will be content in unless you make that decision yourself.

I believe the works of the various religions speak for themselves. For Christianity try reading the Bible, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the stories of the saints, visiting a few churches from different denominations, etc. For Islam read the Quran and speak to a few imams. Find out what they have to say about exploring your faith.

What you decide on will be a mix of the teachings and your personal attitudes towards faith. Good luck in your journey.

>>128931995

>no LARPing

>Jupiter

OK

>>128940516
Oh look, another burger who thinks you can choose what you believe.

>>128936968
Cromwell was a nonce

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Advaita Vedanta is the only non-retarded answer

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seriously tho if you are in for
1. social conservative
2. gimmedats
3. great trolling potential
there is nothing that compete with Islam. Islam doesn't have to be fat faggot arabs or disgusting indians; it also be alpha chechnyans negging all the willowy christian/atheist bitches.

This is what real badasses look like, not some 400 lb guy with a battleaxe and a dead religion no one is willing to die for.

>>128927949
It will help if you can tell us why you are no longer atheist and what you think constitutes the best religion

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>>128934153
If you would try to have Faith in God and gain understanding you would see the proof ,the benefits and you'd be amazed. U fortunately you are just TOO SMART. Man , no one will ever pull one over on you. You've really got it all figured out.

>>128940736
You can choose. In the end nearly every religion has two basic tenets:
(1) Try to be a good person
(2) Try to get other people to be good people

All of the other rules are largely just extensions of the culture in which the religion was formed. So as long as you make a serious effort to be a good person it doesn't really matter what you call God when you're praying.

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>>128935451
That's not what he is saying at all faggot.

>>128941372
Im already doing 1 and 2, so why do i need a religion?
>You can choose
Ok, why not give it a shot and convince yourself that you can fly
You obviously cant and you know that, but if you can choose then it shouldnt be a problem right?

>>128939896
This

>>128941568
i jumped the gun and was reading between the lines to save time.

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>pagan
>My ancestors are smiling on me, can you say the same?

>>128927949
Congratulations! Your fedora can be traded up for a Orthodox Christian LARP helmet free of charge!

>>128938198
Are they a bunch of rape-o's like regular Catholics? I am born Catholic but never went to church.

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>>128941644
You don't need a religion. Choosing to simply live your live without strictly following any doctrine is still a choice. It's on the array of things you can choose from. But some people will still prefer a community of people with similar morals to surround themselves with. Religion is as much about camaraderie as it is about scripture.

People can fly. We've been doing it for hundreds of years in balloons and airplanes. Faith is like the airplane that can carry you places you never imagined possible.

>>128941986
they rape about as much as anyone else in the same sort of position like school teachers what not.

In north america you got three types of orthodox: ethnic enclaves and closeted hipster homosexuals. Enjoy standing for an hour while listening to a sermon in Old Slavonic between a 4'4'' babushka and a dude wearing red pants, suspenders and a wispy moustache.

>>128941267
Faith is belief without evidence. It's literally the opposite of truth. You just believe something no matter what. That's retarded.
>>128939896
Go ahead and take credit for human nature some more. Christian values were stolen from other Cultures like Rome.
>>128939798
I was being sarcastic when I said it doesn't count. Must be a Finnish thing to not understand sarcasm.
>>128939586
>you have no more answers that anyone else
Unlike you who claims to have them all. They ark has no credibility. Because there was a large flood means nothing, what about the 700 year old who built a big boat that fit every living thing on it? The Dinosaurs must have been late cause none of them made it on.

>>128942228
Good to know. Thanks.

>>128942228
That's two types.

>>128941372
Christianity is the next step of religion. It gives you freedom from religion and ensures your personal liberty without sacrifice or tithes. That is why Marxists and Jews hate Jesus because they want to put a debt on you that you can never repay. If you accept Jesus you are immune to their accusations and earthly demands.

>>128942171
i was thinking of adding "without any assistance" but i thought you would figure it out, but instead you dodged the question all together.

Faith is gullibility, the power of pretend.
A rational person who cares about truth will not have faith in anything.

>>128942387
>Must be a Finnish thing to not understand sarcasm.
I did consider that i could be sarcasm, but only later, i cant instantly know your agenda from reading 1 sentence, i would understand sarcasm if i saw you speak.

I could mess with you a bit and talk some Finnish and see if you could tell if it was sarcastic or not, but im tired.

Im off to bed, its 3AM here.

>>128942503
Yeah, if we are really going to split it up, you get
1. superstitious peasants (babuskha)
2. ethnic chauvinists (babhuskhas son, really loathes speaking english)
3. closeted converts.

>>128942591
>sacrifice
like forskins?
>tithes
like tribute?

Yahweh is a demon.

Hen you have to ask what religion to join from a bunch of fags like us you know that you have nothing to stand for and believe. Belief comes from tradition or revelation to what philosophy and belief system you support the most.

>>128927949
Good job op, you are doing the right thing. Read psalms. The answer will come to you.These atheists' morals slide by the day. They don't know where to draw the line and they can be convinced to accept all manner of degeneracy.

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

Science can give you facts but not wisdom.

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>>128941568
One reason I love Infinity the table top game is being able to fight cyber crusades. There's literally a Catholic Church faction and an Islam Faction

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>>128942704
Interesting perspective, but the part of your argument we disagree on is exactly the "without assistance". You assume man cannot be assisted and to seek assistance is weakness. But when you realize you can be assisted it completely changes the dynamic of your life.

Sure, you can't just walk up to the edge of a cliff and jump. But that's not and never was what faith is about. Faith isn't about believing in the impossible or rejecting reality. Faith is about believing that your community and your moral positions can make a difference. And it's true, they can.

On an individual level, when a person is sick members from their church will volunteer to bring them dinner. On a larger level groups of Christians or Muslims or Jews or Pagans or even Atheists frequently get together and participate in community service. Be it volunteering for Madonna House or building a home with Habitat for Humanity or helping out at the local food bank, religious community provides opportunities to get involved and make a difference.

That's the kind of thing I imagine when you say "flying". It's not something that's impossible, it's something that as a community people can accomplish better than as individuals. Organization makes a difference in helping others.

I never dodged your question, I simply challenged the paradigm under which you asked it. It was asked under a different worldview than the one I hold. You can be rational and have faith. A logical person can still find fulfillment in loving others.

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>>128927949

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>>128945915
> ..as the snake..

>>128942387
>christian values stolen from rome
you do know the history of christians in rome, don't you? people don't feed each other to lions in a colosseum because they share values. and to the point of human nature, if murder were unnatural why would there need to be laws forbidding it? atheists are often fatties because they don't believe gluttony to be a sin and instead let their gluttonous human nature run wild.

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to counter-palance, I need to post this one now
> Maybe on the esoteric side (all) religions are some fierce satanism
(d'you even know who they call the Prince of the World?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtswlY4WflI

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so what we need for repairing this world is some alternative form of satanism, not vile, but progressive, prometeian, loving the truth, being the GOD's most beloved child which we probably are, don't you know we're the beast. made of carbon (of 6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons. don't ask me how they knew about it, I don't know it myself)