Give me one good reason why all amphetamines shouldn't be

>>128924842
Amphetamines are illegal? Maybe in your country. Dr. Shekelstein prescribed me Vyvanse so I no longer had to be another obesity or school dropout statistic.

>>128924842

They cause parkinson and other neuronal diseases.

OP, im part Finish and synthetic copies of Amphetamines are being used to a crazy degree in our northern Countries.

What do you think they give people with ADHD, ADD and Social Anxiety today?

In Denmark, the most known is Ritalin, which is basically amphetamine

>>128925076
This, Schlomo has brought vyvanse here too recently. Amps were completely banned for a long time before that, but they have come back without making a fuss

>>128924842
The only thing I'd worry about is using it to solve obesity. It's never really a good idea to replace one addiction with another.
I do support using them more commonly for depression, though. Regular happy pills made me go from depressed to apathetic. Vyvanse gave me the urge to actually do things with my time. It's easier to bounce back from a long stretch of being depressed when you actually accomplish something.

>>128924842
Just say illegal. Why use "shouldnt be legal?"
Its illegal because it leads to abuse. Years of regular use/abuse will wear out and destroy you body, organs, genes to pass on...
Use in moderation and if everyone had self control I would agree. They should be legal.

>>128926353
Alcohol, cigarettes, and fast food are not only legal but popular in everyday life. What's the difference?

>>128924842
This amps are kinda popular in my town everyone who does them works full time or is going through college it is one of the least degenerate drugs imo

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>>128924842

amphetamines don't directly kill people, but they cause a whole host of other issues. prolonged use can cause cardiovascular/neurological problems. amphetamines/stimulants cause people to not be hungry while systematically burning carbs because your nervous system is working overtime-do this enough and your gonna be burning precious proteins that sustain the building/maintenance blocks of your body. if the working man took this without scheduled precautions- it could easily fuck him----try taking some of this shit past noon while maintaining a real sleep schedule

>>128924842
Because they're addictive, alter your personality, and make you reliant on them to do even basic tasks like mowing the lawn. They can also lead to shit like dehydration and ticks. And all of that is on standard prescribed doses. Higher quantities can lean to paranoia and psychosis.

Some people have good impulse control and could self medicate reliably if they were legal but most of the population are retards who can't make it through the day without 5 cups of coffee. You really think giving them legal amphetamines would be a good idea?

>>128928232
Rate of destruction of the body. Amps can kill within 1 to 3 years of heavy use. Mcdonalds takes 5 to 20. And mcdonalds dosent cause psychosis when you come down.

>>128924842
Amphetamines are less dangerous than throwing yourself off the roof of your house, so it should obviously be legalized.

Great argument.

>>128928972
Nope it actually is a slowly degenerate drug, I was a genius with all A's in school, until I was perscribed Adderall for "lack of attention" and then tried to quit after 12 years of robotification.. Leading to a series of horrible events in college where I lost hope for living. All because the direct effects of Adderall on my mood and appetite.

vyvanse is great

if you have actual ADHD (add is adhd now) and by actual i mean genetically proven ADHD

then you need an amp unless you want to sit around and do nothing all day, you've got the brain of a hunter not of a farmer.

>>128930516
ADHD isn't real

>>128930616
read what i said numbnuts

yes ADHD is real, but its not a psychological condition like people claim it to be

its genetic, and MOST whites have it. it comes from neandrethal DNA

>>128930516
vyvanse is bad for you. you will lose your apetite and all desire, you will become robot. careful.

>>128930702
nah i still love food

robot? i still am myself been on it for months, just now i can focus for the first time in my life

like i said, amphetamines interact with people who have the genetic markers for ADHD, and its good for them.

its not good for people without those genetic markers, it makes them into a robot like you said, and if they do amps they get 'high' and euphoric.

>>128930695
ADHD isn't real

>>128931231
define ADHD for me bud

>>128930932
Sounds like someones been sipping on the big pharma kool aid. Just wait til you've spent years of your life on them and realise youre a complete slave to the drug.

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>tfw on adderall and still morbidly obese

>>128925428
This. Parkinsons is treated with other dopamine agonists but that's exactly what adderall does.

Not only does it cure ADD, depression, social anxiety, it can also help with weight loss and make you more productive.

>>128931337
so thats better than being completely fucked up and doing nothing and never being able to derive pleasure from anything?

you're a slave to a lot of things in life

>>128925428
...eventually due to wearing out the dopamine system faster than normal.

>>128931289
The idea that you need to give children amphetamines because they can't sit in a chair for 8 hours is beyond retarded.

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>>128924842
i want 2 love too~
words cant express the language of love(the most powerful force known), tho, so i sry :x

>>128931551
i dont agree that they should be given to anyone under 18

im not in high school, like you may be, so im speaking from the point of an adult

under 18 people shouldnt be given any pharma drugs whatsoever

and thats not what ADHD is bro, we KNOW what ADHD is and its from our hunter genes.

is it overdiagnosed? yes. is that a bad thing? yes. are there people who really have it and are saved from amps? yes.

its genetic differences my dude, it doesn't fuck up our nervous systems because ours never work except in hyperfocus without drugs.

>>128931515
Ill give you a little protip because i used to think like that too. Finding pleasure in life requires a lifestyle change, not a prescription. It might work in the short term as a stopgap but amphetamines are extremely taxing drugs that the body and mind are just not equipped to handle long term

>>128931337
"just wait til you spent years of your life at the gym and realize you're a /fit/fag."

Yah and? I'm a better person for it.

It's not like cocaine that hits you hard, can cause a heart attack, and leaves you depressed. It's gradual onset and gradual withdraw.

I've been taking it for years and it's helped me tremendously. I don't take anymore then my prescribed dose, keep my bp in check, my weight up, and my life going.

I also started cutting back on caffeine. Caffeine is bullshit. It doesn't give me any focus, only makes my heart beat harder. Adderall is the real deal.

>>128931953
i have every single genetic marker for the neurlogical thing that causes so called ADHD

its not taxing on the body for people with those markers, because it only activates them to normal levels

its like giving SSRIs to someone who doesnt need them, we can test all this stuff these days you know?

we understand genetics more than ever now

i get what you mean, and i dislike being a slave to it as well. but there are many things, and we just have to deal with those. i could not function mentally before whatsoever. my brain was constantly haywire and going insane/manic. i had a lot of lifestyle changes. now i can finally enjoy the life i made for myself while not on the drugs

>>128931953
[Citation needed]

Did you ever prescribe anyone adderall dr. anon?

Did you ever take it long term?

Or are you just pulling shit out of your ass and regurgitating what you learned in your DARE class?

>>128931818
>reddit format
>no caps
>"bro"
I think you're just a retard my friend.

>>128924842
I love stimulants, but there's no way in hell modern society should be taking them.
You fucks are already in a state of collective mania. Boost the dopamine even more and all of society will become psychotic. You'll have a happening the likes of which hasn't been seen since the last major meteor impact.

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>>128932377
so thats your reply?

and is this reddit formatting? i wouldnt know, its polite to format your posts so they're easier to read.

bet u joined 4chan in what.. 2013? 2014? gamer gater redditor? you would know what reddit formatting is,

and no caps? yeah because i type on my computer, you new here?

>>128932332
Took vyvanse for years before finally quitting. I had all the markers for adhd from childhood into adulthood. So yes I know first hand what the effects of the drug are.

>>128932855
holy shit kill yourself you fucking cancer, I've tried going on /pol/ once every day since the election and see posts like yours everywhere now. You're cancer, you're killing (or have already killed) what little was left of this mongolian basketweaving husk. Go fuck yourself you quadruple nigger r/etard

I have ADHD my dudes. This shit turns me into a goddamn zombie.

Ask me anything.

I used to purchase amps in high-school and it was the only time I've felt like a complete normie. I was active, had friends and enjoyed life. Doctors won't prescribe shit to me for some reason and I haven't left the house in nearly 10 years. Assholes giving all the good things to little kids instead of people who need it.

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>>128933314
t. gamergate/trump newfriend

:^)

>>128933405
you fail to see the irony of flocking to a place that isn't yours while espousing the values of nationalism... oh well, don't forget to read your dawkins, muh fellow centipede! LOL BASED BLACK GUY XDDDD

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>>128933917
you're embarrassing yourself

And let's not forget, as we see in the posts above this one, modern people have too much fucking ego as it is. Dump extra dopamine on that, and you'll have the most insufferable cunts imaginable.

There's really no reason to not be taking it. Even in people without ADHD it still causes significant improvement in working and long term memory. If you don't abuse it, it will have literally no negative effect on you besides being less hungry.

Anyone pulling the 'I don't need drugs, muh chemicals, muh body' meme is a luddite stuck in the paste. Make way for the future, nigger.

>>128934521
for people without the genetic markers it only provides short term help, and fucks them up long term

so they wouldn't be a daily thing, but most people do not have the will to do that with something as non-addictive as tobacco comparatively

better than people doing meth tho

>>128934732
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3489818/

There is zero evidence for this. Use of amphetamines at a medical dose will have no negative effects on you. You only run into issues long term if you're shooting a gram of meth every day.

>>128931634
How high are you right now?

>>128934944
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3489818/

eh, i think its common sense if you know what the markers do that it will cause long term harm for people who's nervous systems arent raped to death by their genetics

all drug users justify their drug use and claim their drug to be actually healthy

theyre all filthy degens and need to shut up
they deserve to die from drugs

methamphetamine has a devastating effect on families, mostly poor and non white around this country. It breaks downwhat were once close families, stirps people of all money hope and future.

Meth is an evil drug.

Although it feels fucking good, it should stay illegal. What good could possibly come from making meth legal?

>>128935097
It's already legal, retard. Desoxyn is prescription methamphetamine.

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>>128934969
so high id cry

>>128924842

psychosis you stupid faggot

>>128935240
okay but they're retty different

desoxy comes in like 5mg pills, which you can't smoke or shoot without a wheel filter

meth comes in pure crystal form, in doses of 100mg - 1gram

It's like the difference between a weak cider and everclear

and something being a prescription medication isn't the same as it being legal to buy and use freely

>>128925775
No, chemically ritalin looks nothing like amphetamine. Ritalin is more akin to cocaine.

>>128935917
this

ritalin isnt an amp

>>128935917
iv ritalin is extremely underrated

feels very similar to iv cocaine

>>128935986
>>128935917
it's a substituted amphetamine

>>128936104
rip your veins

>>128936184
yes, so its not an amphetamine. done amphetamine and methylphenidate

extremely different, ritalin is shit. amphetamines are older than ritalin, invented by the nazis.

>(((((((((((amphetamines)))))))))))))))
Only fucking Jew American ((((((((((((((Scientists)))))))))))))))) and (((((((((((((((Doctors)))))))))))))))) use this expression as an umbrella term, you SHOULDN'T be doing that. By doing it you're mixing up Adderall (aka amphetamine, which can be useful) with meth, MDMA and shit like Bromo-DragonFLY or whatever the psychedelic shit that causes necrosis and so forth
and even amphetamine itself isn't really all that safe, I have no fucking idea how American kids pop Adderall like candy when simply the side effects such as extraordinary dry mouth and lack of appetite give you the idea that the shit isn't good for you, maybe pharmaceutical grade stuff is just different

>>128928232
That's like saying "the police didn't catch one criminal, why should they try to catch any?"

>>128936485
all of those are amps

only one of those is simply 'amphetamine'

mdma = 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine

ritalin = methylphenidate

pharma grade is different yes, like nicotine is actually GOOD for you, but ciggarettes because of all the shit they put in the 'tobacco' and the filter, make it awful. same with that.

pharma is just the chemical synthesised to a matrix

>>128936184
>it's a substituted amphetamine
Ritalin is a substituted phenethylamine. Phenethylamines are typically reuptake inhibitors while amphetamines are typically release agonists.

>>128936541
So the government's goal is to completely regulate your life for the better and everything you're free to do now is just something the government has failed to regulate at the moment?

>>128924842
aphetamine and aphetamine derivatives cause nerve degeneration in later life

ALL DRUGS SHOULD BE LEGAL!
And here's why: some of my friends binged on metanphetamine in their 20s and they now look like fucking retarded zombies in their 30s.

One of them had an heart attack at 35yo!

So you want MORE control on this substances, thus they should be legalized and regulated to prevent generations of incompetent sons of bitches fucking up the welfare

Would really advice against the use of amphetamines long term though (which the majority of the public is incapable of limiting its consumption if made legal).

It really fucks up your dopamine receptor level if used long term. And if you decided to stop using it all of a sudden, trust me, it will not be fun - you would feel really sleepy and demotivated all the time. I have experienced this.

But then you could argue that you should never stop taking amphetamines to avoid withdrawals. Yea you could do that, but remember your tolerance would build up and each time you would need to consume more of it. There will be one point where your heart couldn't take it anymore.

Just get into regular exercise and a healthy diet and trust me, your concentration level will be all good.

Addictive, expensive, weak bone marrow, weak heat, always dehydrates you, and strokes galore. Take the modafinil red pill son

>>128936184
yea, and amphetamines are basically substituted benzene. Are you to say that amphetamines are benzenes?

>>128924842
>People don't see anything wrong with using a stimulant like caffeine every day, but a better, safer and overall more beneficial chemical is illegal.
>amphetamine is safer than caffeine
Typical dose of caffeine is 50-200mg, lethal is 7000mg+. Typical dose of amphetamine is 20mg-30mg, lethal is probably 10x that and doing 1.5x a dose you're used to can be terrifying (at least in my experience). And that's not saying anything about ease of acquiring a tolerance.

>more beneficial
Short-term yes. If you binge 1-2 times a month max you're fine. Daily usage on the other hand can either cause you to spiral into addiction or turn you into a zombie after a few years/decades. So really it should only be used for crunch time.

Really it seems weird that corporations don't want it legalized. Why not let people try to beat automation for a little longer? Don't want your employees to work too hard or be too focused on the job without fatigue? Why risk truckers falling asleep at the wheel after a long shift?

>>128938944
take a pro-drug of adderall thats just a watered down version that is barely effective and little to no in-depth studies into it?

oh wait you said expensive, so ur just a pill popper nvm

Not being a fat lazy turd easily fixes the obesity problem. People should go for a run or lift weights once in a while.

>>128924842
those serotonin inhibitors tho.

think of them before you post. please clean your room sweetie

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Speaking of stimulants, if you guys want the reddest pill of all, buy 3g of a-php and do it for a week straight with no sleep.

>>128924842
>basically cures ADHD
lel, no. It just makes my mind race a bit less.

>>128924842

>a safer drug than caffeine

>>128943764
Not for nothing, while caffeine IS technically safer than amphetamine, caffeine is also the only drug that has ever put me into an ER, and I've done this shit- >>128943322

One 5-Hour energy drink is all it took too.
Don't assume safety with ANY drug. Not even caffeine.

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>tfw refill day

Feels good getting 900mg pharmaceutical grade speed every month for only like $10 after insurance

>>128944138
250mg put you into an ER? How does that work? I thought caffeine sensitivity transferred to all stimulants.

>>128944138

I'm just going to assume that when you say that "just caffeine" put you into the ER, that you're referencing a time when you took more than just caffeine. Right?

Caffeine was the only thing you took? Nah I didn't think so you fucking liar

>>128933314

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l20Pac9YWM

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>>128924842
OP wants to be a methhead. He's already lowered his rationality and intelligence to the point He can't think of this. Drugs make you stupid not smart.

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>>128924842

Anyone tried DMT?

I brought some yesterday, plan on smoking it out of a lightbulb (thoughts?).

How long does it last? Will I get a panic attack from it?

Is it like a salvia style mindfuck or what?

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>>128924842
meth

>>128944662
Maybe it was something I ate beforehand, don't really know. But it can happen. Everyone has a chemical uniqueness that makes drug effects a bit different across individuals.
For example, amphetamine isn't anywhere near as awesome for me as NDRIs like phenidates, cathinones, and pyros, but meth is only surpassed by pyros, despite being little more than a more potent amphetamine. In my case, meth is much more close to MDMA than amphetamine, the dopamine effects from it are clearly overshadowed by the serotonin effects, leading me to believe that, in my chemistry I favor NDRIs over NDRAs.
This is generally atypical among the population, as most people tend to get more "good" effects out of NDRAs like amphetamine and meth.

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>>128945474
bad news

>>128945423
>>128945454
>>128945633
>>128945744
How black & white can you be with drugs? Do you think anyone who drinks occasionally is bound to be an addled alcoholic if they don't stop drinking ASAP? Of course all day every day usage for years on end will destroy you.

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Drugs are for when you're sick. OP are you sick?

>Be OP
>Think he's an evolutionary failure and that his brain was optimally designed by millions of years of evolution
>Want to be a methhead.
>OP's pic related

>>128945053
>Caffeine was the only thing you took? Nah I didn't think so you fucking liar

Yes, caffeine was the only "drug" I took, but everything you eat or drink except for maybe pure water can alter pharmacology and cause changes in effects of drugs. Never assume any drug is safe. Hell, even allergies can kick in out of nowhere at times, leading to cases of anaphylaxis where none used to be.

>>128931450
Get a roux en y you chubby cunt

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>>128945894

The Nervous system is controlled by complex feedback and feedforward loops.

Any temporary advantage bestowed by a psych drug is more than overshadowed by the payback on the otherside.

I have experienced unimaginable pain. Like seventh level of hell type pain, Suffering legendary in hell type pain.

What caused that pain? Opiates.

What you say? I though opiates were painkillers?

Yeah, paybacks a bitch.

>>128931337

Taken vyvanse for 10 years on and off, with 1yr breaks several times. Not even close to a robot. faggot

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Payback. Inevitable payback.

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>>128930252
This anon knows what's up. Stuff will destroy your motivation centres with chronic use.

>>128946662
I never get severe crashes even after hardcore rolls/tweaks. What one does on the comedown on stimulants can make a world of difference.

In my case, I usually have a six-pack of cold ales ready, some hearty protein-rich food(soups and tuna are favorites), some supplements(melatonin, 5-htp, l-theanine, zinc, chelated magnesium, and l-arginine), and of course a nice shower and some sleep. Generally after this course of crash mitigation, I have just slight apathy and irritation for about 20-30 hours after the stims wear off.
Also, proper maintenance during a session is key. MILK. Lots of milk during spin sessions. Fruit as well, but I must take care to gently brush my teeth after eating anything, as not doing so can and will lead to dental decay very rapidly with stimulants.

Care and planning go a long way to preventing side effects and negatives with stim usage.

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>>128924842
>Basically cures ADD, ADHD, depression, social anxiety
stopped reading right here, knew you were one of them weed heals dead people types.

>>128946163
dude you know damn well that you mixed it with something else, come the fuck on I'm not an idiot

>>128932855
t. around Donglegate (but not due to the issue though)

>>128948624
ive been here since 2007

wish i was a newfag

>>128925775
Ritalin is a Dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor while amphetamines are agonists they have similar effects but work in different ways

>>128931450
Get a Desoxyn script

literally a meth script

>>128945423
Meth is Prescribed and the scripts don't do this to you its the shit on the street that ruins your body like this because of all of the impurities

>>128948506
>come the fuck on I'm not an idiot
You sure could have fooled me. You seem oblivious on pharmacology, and someone trying to speak factually on a subject he knows nothing about it the epitome of idiocy.

I did not mix the caffeine with another drug. That doesn't mean something I ate didn't have an effect, or some other otherwise mundane thing.
That's why caution is always advised with use of any pharmacological substance.

Hell, different brews of beers cause differing intoxicant effects in my observations.
Yuengling for example is a more cheery drink than Corona.
Sam Adams is more relaxing for me than Yuengling. Bud and Miller(both trash) give me a headache every time I've had them, but Rolling Rock, while weaksauce, does not have any noticeable negative effects despite being even cheaper.
YMMV is a absolute truth.

>>128924842

Silly finngol, don't you know that Big Pharma wants to keep their monopoly on the most addictive drugs?

>>128952087
Thankfully, at least here in the US, the feds don't seem to care about my favorite compounds.
Don't know how much longer this will last, but maybe that's because opioids/fent are taking up the concern.

Though here in Florida, almost everything is illegal. But I don't worry about laws. I have the darknet.

The shame though is with RCs, when a government bans a particular compound, especially a government ruling over a jurisdiction that manufactures a compound, that compound can become VERY hard to get.
2-FMA is an awesome amphetamine substitute with less negative side effects and less addictive potential in most users, that's become hard to get since China banned it a while back. And yet the chinks are still pumping out fent analogs like madmen.
4-FA is another awesome compound, that became hard to get after the China ban, then the Dutch took up the slack. But then the Dutch banned 4-FA, and now it's really hard to find it.
Almost no one seems to care about the lysergamides legally though, so these might stick around for a long time, which is goddamn awesome. 1P-LSD and ALD-52 are almost exactly like LSD in effects, and the world can only really benefit from these compounds(despite the possible uncommon negative reactions).

I took less than the maximum daily dose of dexamp for a year. I ended up suidicidal and killed my 2 dogs thinking they had cameras installed in their eyes by my neighbours.

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>>128931337
Can't confirm.
>script for dexedrine from 8-17
>22 got script for adderall
>cleared 85k last year

t.26

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>>128955285
Guess I should have read whole thread first...

The narrative and caste of drugs is false. Everything activity we do, everything we eat and drink alters our neurological state. Being aware of this and understanding how to adapt to achieve resaults is the only redpill that will transcend people to take a look at the JQ

>>128924842
Uppers are literally for the most low energy fuckboi cucks on Earth. If I ever run into a meth dealer in a social environment Im going to beat his face in with my fist.

>420blzitfgt
>low energy=need meth=weak ass faggots

>>128954612
Stim psychosis is a bitch. There's a few different types. The kind you seem to have had tends to build and is the most dangerous kind because it's insidious.

ANY habitual drug use can and will end badly.
No pharmaceutical is safe to use long-term, despite what any authoritative or governing body says. Because every pharmaceutical will cause a chemical imbalance in some way. In the long term, these imbalances will cause harm. Short term, they can be mitigated or controlled. Imbalance is chaotic and nature abhors chaos.

I've been under heavy stim psychosis several times, but mine came on quick through binging, and wasn't insidious.
It was creepy at first, and is still a bit off-putting even though I'm used to it. I doubt most people can handle it, as it's quite dysphoric in "normality" terms. Those shadow people are some devious cunts. Satan and God are the same fucking guy. And to me, that constant repetition of muffled reverberating music playing that I SWEAR TO GOD/SATAN is coming from my fan keeping me cool is the most eerie. Anything that makes a constant sound, like fans, or a shower, or the AC, turns into a speaker. First time this happened was frightening, I thought the government was trying to brainwash me with songs played from hidden speakers in my house. Once I figured out it was just my mind playing the same songs I had been listening to for 4+ days on end as though it was real sound, I stopped worrying about it.

Psychosis is manageable if you're smart and controlled enough to realize it's just mental bullshit. Don't take it serious. But it takes willpower.

you feel like you are acting right on them, but to everyone else you are very clearly on drugs. besides that, how about not looking for a pharmaceutical solution for every little stupid problem you think you have oh waaaah i can't concentrate. fucking faggots

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The greatest argument against drug legalization is seeing all of the shiftless loser retards itching to have them all legal.

I give zero shits about the stereotypical "big pharma maaaaann" arguments and I will gladly allow monopolies so long as the state puts it's boot on the fucking neck of you people. I would much rather pay for the War on Drugs than I would pay for your welfare or """""disabilities"""""".

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>>128956487
I sort of agree, but for different reasons.
Drugs being illegal really doesn't hinder my access to them. I live in America. If I want something, I can buy it. Moralfaggots be damned. Drugs being illegal means they can't be taxed, and tax-free goods are always a nice thing. Yes it's a shame when drugs like 2-FMA or MXE disappear from the market, but 3-FPM is almost as good as a functional stim as 2-FMA, and amphetamine is also still available. And ketamine can be better than MXE, and there's still 3-MeO-PCP too. So nothing is really lost, the gamut of effects is just narrower.

>>128924842
I won't lie--adderall is basically the greatest thing in the world for the first year or so. Then the tolerance sets in and you can't even get to your old baseline without increasing your dose.

Fuck man. I used to be so happy on this stuff

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>>128930516
Whatever - I'm on adderall - once I started taking amphetamines I got my life together - ended up making 6 figures after 7 years of work as a result of being able to focus. The pills wear off after 4 hours.

Now- I do have to say that a lot of those crazy jihadi guys are hopped up on CRAZY levels of amphetamines which contributes to the insane shit they do.

>>128957282
Give it up for a month and re-set your system. Take a vacation. Works.

>>128959132
>Now- I do have to say that a lot of those crazy jihadi guys are hopped up on CRAZY levels of amphetamines which contributes to the insane shit they do.

True, but it's not amphetamines. It's Khat. Very similar, probably even stronger in some ways.
Islam is based on child abuse(beatings and sexual assault) which causes mental disorders, then the use of Khat on top of that basically makes the fuckers into batshit insane broken and self-destructive.

Islam is, from a psychology standpoint, a cult based around the manufacture of serial killers and sociopaths. This is factually provable via psychology and pharmacology, and the fact that the psychological field has not openly come out and stated this fact shows some clear underhandedness is at work in that field. Religious belief does not generally get a pass for making people batshit, but with Islam it does.

>>128960238
Also- there is a ton of inbreeding . Google the stats- they are shocking.

>>128931486
parkinson's is treated with either deep brain stimulation or L-DOPA

>>128960341
Oh, and the circumcisions. It's like Judaism and Islam are both based upon making people into lunatics. Even in Christianity, the worst parts of the faith come from the Hebrew/Jew cultural contributions.

To me, Jesus seems like the kinda guy who would recognize this chaotic and abusive nature of Abrahamism(Islam didn't exist yet but the foundations of Judaism did) and try to limit or expel it, which is why he ended up pissing off his fellow Hebrews.

>>128924842
You're a druggie and a degenerate.