EU Will Ignore White House And Work Directly With US States On

Technically allowed

>>128892363
? States can enter into agreements with foreign countries?

>>128892086
Oh Drumpfy this is just sad.

I think we should stop embarassing him now or he might fire some nukes ...

No, it's forbidden by the constitution, states cannot enter into any agreements, etc with any foreign parties.

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Can Americans be this idiotic? Would they purposely screw their own economy just to send a message?

>>128892363
No, it's not. The US gov doesn't care though because it doesn't matter, if it made any difference then the governors who signed would go to prison.

>>128892363
No it isn't.
States can provide their own laws, but they can not deal with outside influences without government say.
http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/1/essays/74/import-export-clause
It's illegal as shit and would be considered betraying The U.S. talking life in prison.

>liberals now support states rights
holy shit trump is literally playing 4d chess

>>128892517
Nope

>haha me and mammy merkel will rule da world :^))

fuck Macron, gerontophilic cuckold.

>>128892652
Wrong. How can you not know you own constitution?

Are shills really this dumb about the peris agreement? Why do shills think it's so important to them?

>>128892517
Depends.

It isn't like they can form military agreements without the Federal government's say, or something like trading with Cuba or shit like that.

I am curious to know if states can also break off agreements with countries that DC has an agreement with.

Muh climate coalition with Washington California and Jew York


>mfw our disgusting legislature, AG and Governor Gay Inslee all Go to prison entering into deals with foreign parties

I am so ready

This why liberals don't deserve state rights. Only Republican states deserve rights

>>128892912
it isn't states rights
these are corporations that are usurping the power of the federal executive
it's just more growing international corporate power

companies like General Electric and Microsoft were the biggest ones pushing for Paris and now they are exerting their power and going around

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>>128892086

Trump has tricked the left into supporting states' rights

Agenda 21 was all about bypassing Federal and State (Provincial) level jurisdictions to implement that agenda at the Municipal level.

>Sustainable development
and such things like changing local building codes to force green shit

>>128892086

Why should DRUMPF be BTFO? This is all part of his agenda to give states back their right to conduct business as they see fit.

OK
SO let's say the Federal government ignores these idiot states doing this BUT cut off federal funding
NY CA WA would be broke in a year

>>128892086
states cannot do anything with federal tax dollars.. cry more

>>128892517
Its specifically prohibited in article 1 section 10 paragraph 3 of the US constitution

>>128893315
>Trump has tricked the left into supporting states' rights
hey, dipshit, liberals are using state's rights to push their agenda for some time now

>weed legalization
>sanctuary cities
>protecting abortion and PP

get your shit together, retard

>>128892985
See
>>128892896
Try again

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>>128892086

It's like the USA doesn't exist as a single nation.

MAGA. Brexit please.

>>128892530
muh codes and whatnot

>>128893448
>This is all part of his agenda to give states back their right to conduct business as they see fit.
bullshit
states want to allow weed and not arrest mexicans and the federal gov immediately slams their tendies down and shits their pants

>>128892363
You mean not allowed at all. Treaties are up to the federal government and can't be undertaken by an individual state. We're a Republic, if all 50 states had treaties to different countries or even the same country under different terms we'd be in a mess of shit.

>>128893672
:^)

Only pretending, etc.

>>128892086

This is EXACTLY what Trump (and libertarians) want. This is what the constitution sets up. Article Four and Article Seven.

The whole idea is that each state ratifies its own laws and way of doing things without federal controls.

Just because the "USA" pulls out of the Paris agreement doesn't mean that the individual states can't implement the ideas. In fact that is how it should happen. The states are supposed to govern themselves.

>>128892086
Any agreement they come to will not be funded federally and can be shut down federally at any time

oh no states' rights what a horrible thing

>>128892086
People will immediately shoot this down as soon as these states propose raising state taxes to cover the third world wealth transfer payments outlined in the Paris Agreement

>>128892086
They will regret cucking him like this. It's like they don't get him at all

>>128892086
>can't make treaties with individual states
>trying to balkanize the US
EU is essentially declaring war here.

>>128892086
There are ways that states can conduct certain types of dealings with foreign governments, it's not like state leaders can't talk to foreign leaders, but that's what the state department is for and it would be very weird for Pennsylvania to enter into any treaty with Germany for example. More like the states will try to implement some of the terms of the Paris accord in their own states, but really that just Germany sharing legal ideas with states.

>>128893909
Fucking wrong. States can't conduct trade with foreign nations individually. They must consult the Fed and if they don't, the governor of whatever state gets prison.

>>128892086
This would be a direct violation of Article 1, section 10, paragraph 3 of the Constitution. And a violation of the Logan Act for any government official to negotiate with the foreign governments.

>>128892530
But your former country must be cleansed with holy radioactive fire

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>>128893486
This.
https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec10.html

>>128893909
>This is EXACTLY what Trump
>leaf-posting really shitty theories
stay gay, canada

Regardless of it's legality it's foreign government collusion.

>>128893315
More like Trump has tricked the left into committing treason and they'll all be thrown in jail. You'd have to be an idiot to think an individual state can enter a treaty.

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>>128892086
So it is treason then

>>128892086
It would cost states money that they do not have, now with no Federal subsidy. This is a nothingburger going nowhere.

>>128894155

Re-read my statement.

>>128893909
> "doesn't mean that the individual states can't implement the ideas"

I am referring to the overarching principals of lowering emissions etc. Not the transfer of money.

>>128892086
All that means is more democrat failures across the country, states & local elections

Why EU think Americans give a fuck about their fucking American job killing bullshit?

Fuck off faggots

>>128893909
Implementing ideas and entering a treaty are two entirely different things.
Can NY and CA decide to reduce emissions? Yes.
Can NY and CA sign a deal with the EU? No.

>>128892517
No. Those who do will be kicked out of office.
Bring on the state level agreements.
Dems btfo

There's not going to be any treason if the government of Pennsylvania takes its ideas from Germany, they can't enter treaties with Germany but if Pennsylvania wants to ban sauerkraut because Germany thinks they should, then Pennsylvania can do that.

>>128894452
States can choose to do whatever they want as far as implementing constitutional laws that promote environmentalism, but they cannot collude with other governments or enter any otherwise legally binding agreements with foreign nations.

Face it: DRUMPF IS A SITTING ORANG UTAN ALREADY !!!

Now would be the perfect time for the world to come together and end US opression! 60% of americans would be on our side!!

>>128893486
>>128894267
>"or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."
Drumpftards BTFO

>>128892517
No, it's explicitly illegal. So what the governors/legislatures/corporations involved will do is work out informal, nonbinding guidelines with the EU and treat them like laws.

>>128892086
>www.iflscience.com

LOL it has nothing to do with science, it's economic redistribution. In their own words:

http://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-economy-is-transformed-intentionally

"The Top UN Climate Change Official is optimistic that a new international treaty will be adopted at Paris Climate Change conference at the end of the year. However the official, Christiana Figueres, the Executive Secretary of UNFCCC, warns that the fight against climate change is a process and that the necessary transformation of the world economy will not be decided at one conference or in one agreement.

"This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history", Ms Figueres stated at a press conference in Brussels."

IPCC Official: “Climate Policy Is Redistributing The World’s Wealth”

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/18/ipcc-official-%E2%80%9Cclimate-policy-is-redistributing-the-worlds-wealth%E2%80%9D/

"Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection, says the German economist and IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer. The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated."

>>128892086
>supports states rights
>lowers national unity
>stops costing billions and billions of national dollars
Sounds good to me, what's BTFO about this? This is /pol/ wet dream material.

>>128894274

I guess I was wrong:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/27/donald-trump-governors-giving-power-back-states/

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/315275-trump-were-giving-power-back-to-the-people

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-02-27/trump-administrations-calls-to-return-power-to-states-stirs-fear

https://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000596597

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/in-trump-inauguration-speech-trump-vows-to-give-power-back-to-the-people/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/22/donald-trump-begins-returning-the-power-of-the-gov/

>>128894665
>Dems btfo
states having the authority to legalize weed and prostitution
>repubs BTFO

>>128894710
Yes, but EU is saying work directly, which isn't an exchange of ideas but collaboration, which is illegal.

>>128894627
See >>128894452

>>128894731

See >>128894452

Literally treason, good luck liberals.

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>>128892086
>the state of the DNC

>>128894862
>>supports states rights
Negotiating agreements with foreign powers is a right reserved for the federal government.

>>128894452
The main thing about the Paris accord isn't actually lowering emissions, it's about taxing emissions and giving free shekels to nigger countries. Without the shekel transfer the headline basically reads "stupid nigger lefty states continue pushing environmentalist legislation", not technically fake news, but pretty much non-news

>>128892086
This Paris Agreement generated so much hysteria, it is truly unbelievable. Nobody ever fucking read that shit. Trump also never said that he would sign it, but he said that it needs more work. If you read it you know what I mean. He could also sign it, it wouldn't even matter because it's not binding at all. You can sign it and double your emissions. It is truly amazing how blind people are and how much they trust mass media instead of their own fucking common sense.

>>128894902
>States have the authority to legalize weed.

Actually they technically don't since federal law is superior to state law, but nobody want to increase the burden on our over-workered court system.

>>128894773
"Imminent"

Didnt Al-Gore say the ice caps would be gone by 2014?

>>128892086
They can only write cute little letters of "hey we're buds." With the individual states like they are with Cali.

States cannot sign binding treaties etc with foreign powers.

Who's BTFO now?

Also, shut up and turn a blind eye to some guy raping your women because he didn't know it was rape. Fucking swedes are cucked all hell.

>>128894866
>donald trump TELLS people he's giving back power to the states
>in practice donald trump is expanding the reach of the federal government to control states

how are you so fucking dumb?

>>128892086

Trump should ignore the EU and start making trade deals with countries.

>>128892086

I'd like to see California sink their economy with this low-carbon nonsense. These clowns talk as if there was no possible way to create some kind of technology to suck the CO2 directly from the atmosphere and address the so-called problem directly. Instead all they want is taxes, taxes and more taxes.

Watch as all the blue states join, and Frau Merkel and the other EU cucks cry that evil red states are killing the planet.

>>128894773

The world was supposed to end many times now. You dont get to make up the danger.

>>128892086
I find it so amusing how white people use #resist while supporting globalist anti-white filth.

When all your friends expect you to pay for your ridiculous ideas and you say no so they act like they are still going to do them anyway

>>128895321
>federal law is superior to state law
and here we see how trump will say one thing and do another

>>128895431
Trump is making federal law work the way it's supposed to. Immigration control is up to the Feds, not the States.

>>128892363
Nothing binding can be signed. Just "we're besties" type of documents. So sure, that's technically allowed. It's also technically for show.

>>128894627
Did Jerry Brown just unconstitutionally sign an agreement with China?
Yes.

>>128892086
who cares

>>128892086
This is completely fake news.

>>128895209
>The main thing about the Paris accord isn't actually lowering emissions

well it is for "industry" countries
china can even increase emissions till 2030

>goal of the EU drop of TOTAL EMISSIONS by 40% of the level from fucking 1990
>https://ec.europa.euclimapoliciesstrategies2030_en

>goal of the USA drop of TOTAL EMISSIONS by 26% of the level from 2005
>http://www4.unfccc.intndcregistryPublishedDocumentsUnited States of America FirstU.S.A. First NDC Submission.pdf

>Goal of China drop of TOTAL EMISSION INTENSITY by 60% of the level from 2005
>https://www.c2es.orgdocUploadschinas-contributions-paris-climate-agreement.pdf


>Emission intensity is tied to GDP, so when GDP grows the intensity shrinks automatically.
>China can keep their Emissions at the same level and it will shrink automatically, they can even increase their emissions by a modest amount as long as it stays below GDP growth.

this shit doesn't even include the climate fund that

>>128892086
I don't really see a problem with this. States should be allowed to attempt to reduce their environmental impact should they so wish.

>>128892753
Now you know why we call those American's "Cucks"

>>128892086
That is illegal though.

Treaties need to be passed through congress or else the EU will violate US Federal law.

>>128895328
Here is a sauce if someone can't actually believe that he would say something that retarded.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/wrong-al-gore-predicted-arctic-summer-ice-could-disappear-2013

>>128892985
https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec10.html

Hi there.

>>128895695
Actually you're wrong. You can't sign any type of agreement whatsoever without approval of Congress. It doesn't say binding or non-binding in the Constitution.

>>128892363
No it is not. States are explicitly forbidden.

>>128895209
>the main thing about the Paris accord isn't actually lowering emissions, it's about taxing emissions

I have not read the Paris agreement at all. I thought it was primarily about lowering emissions and trying to find clean/green sources for...everything and huge taxes on countries that have huge emissions.
Thanks for Correcting The Record.

> Without the shekel transfer the headline basically reads "stupid nigger lefty states continue pushing environmentalist legislation"

They alt-left just wants to watch the world burn.

The alt-right just wants mass genocide. Nice fair balance, lol.

>>128892363
I will call to mind the case decided at the US supreme court when the State of Arizona tried to merely enforce existing federal immigration laws, and was prohibited from doing so because the court determined it was solely the federal government that held plenary power when it comes to immigration policy and enforcement.

>>128895976
>>128895976
This.

So this is just lip service to (((them))) and it's to give liberals a pat on the back while doing literally nothing. pay it no mind.

>>128892086
What's the point of the president anymore when everyone goes against him?

>>128895679
>President Donald Trump will take a “ruthless” approach to people who violate the nation’s drug laws.

>muh war on drugs

i'll start taking trump's "state's rights" shit seriously when he starts letting states actually decide their own futures

>>128895431
>in practice donald trump is expanding the reach of the federal government to control states

Is this true? Which bills/acts/executive orders increase federal control?

>>128895674
Trump promised a greater emphasis on states rights, if you know anything about our legislative system the fact that federal law overrules state law is an institutional law that has been in since the 10 amendments. Grey matter is what the states can regulate.

>>128893933
Instead of reading bumper stickers. Read the
constitution. I hope you have the IQ to process this factual information...

Article 1 Section 10:

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

10th Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

>>128892086
Unconstitutional

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>>128892086
IMPEACH BLUMPF

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>>128892086
Why is EU meddling in US politics?

>>128893909
>Just because the "USA" pulls out of the Paris agreement doesn't mean that the individual states can't implement the ideas. In fact that is how it should happen. The states are supposed to govern themselves
If states independently arrived at their own decision to set their own controls against carbon emissions they might have a better constitutional leg to stand on, but once it involves dealings with other states or foreign powers then it becomes much more difficult for them to act that way. See the recent case where Arizona decided it was merely going to enforce existing federal immigration laws that were mirrored at the state level. The feds sued under Obama and won at the Supreme court because it determined that the Feds held plenary power in the area of immigration enforcement and policy. The Fed also holds plenary power in foreign relations.

>>128896275
trump is firing up the drug war again:

>Last week, Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions -- a man who remains staunchly opposed to the concept of legal marijuana -- was confirmed as the new Attorney General of the United States.
>There is now a great deal of concern that Sessions may soon cancel out the Obama Administration’s “hands off approach” to legal weed, which is outlined in the Cole Memo, and force any business engaged in the cultivation and sale of marijuana to close its doors.

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>>128894862

>>128896321
Dems/libs/hippies btfo

>>128896535
>Why is EU meddling in US politics?
Because Trump appeared to support other political parties in the EU who wanted to leave the EU. So now they are pushing back.

>>128892086
Ok so two states will meet with Merkel and write up a non binding agreement? California is already a shithole, why do we care???

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>>128892086
Fuck off Germany, jesus fucking christ I MAD.
What's next, EU military bases on US soil because the president said no but greedy local governors said yes?

>>128894902
Well, prostitution isn't prohibited federally. So, you're not bright, right?

Weed is regulated under a perversion of the interstate commerce clause.

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;"

Thanks FDR

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>>128892086
German high-tech jobs for Democrat cities. Donkey Kang done did it again.

>>128896321
Haha *inhale* haha.

>>128896852
see
>>128896702

weed is a great metric for measuring an administration's actual commitment to "state's rights"

>>128896702
Marijuana is illegal in all US states and territories.

>>128892086
Why do burgers pretend to give a shit about the constitution when they still have a 2 party system?

>>128895674
Trump said he'll enforce all the laws and Sessions said he didn't join the KKK because they smoke weed. They'll follow the Constitution.

>>128892086
>Democrats fighting for their cheap labor
>Democrats demanding muh state rights
>Democrats stopping niggers from owning guns
>Democrats throwing a tantrum about the president and threatening to secede

The Dems are the same as they were in 1860.

>>128892363
>Leftists think US States allowed to work directly with foreign governments
>but not Russia

california will continue and the rest will forget about it

>>128896702
Doubt sessions will go after medical marijuana. That would be Retarded and a the end of his career. He could go after recreational use but likely will not. He has bigger issues to deal with than marijuana

The nerve of this fat bitch though, along with the EU scum.

When will Germans get rid of her?

>>128897216
Pretty sure there's nothing in our constitution about a political party quota... I don't see your point

>>128897144
No it isn't. Slavery was not federally banned until after the Civil War, so it was left to the states to deal with how they pleased. Weed is illegal everywhere and the states have no right to legalize it.

>>128895715
Did he actually sign something? I'd contact the DoJ.

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>>128896825
>What's next, EU military bases on US soil

I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired this

>>128897300
Source

>>128894851

World climate summit in Cancun.
This is such an obvious old boys kike club. They do not care about the environment, they just want to meet in exotic locations and throw themselves expensive galas and launder people's tax money into whatever slimey endeavors they are undertaking at the moment.

>>128897190
the states decided this isn't true
we'll see if trump shares that view
repubs actually only want states to have self-determination in the gay shit they want to push

>>128893753
>states want to allow weed and not arrest mexicans
Weed is a states rights issue. Illegal immigrants are a national security issue, actually the jurisdiction of the federal government.

>>128892086

>"Okay, Pennsylvania, in order to do this you have to from a commission to determine your levels of carbon emission, than pass laws banning the majority of American automobiles, cutting yourself of from they majority of American power, set up green energy production within your city, then tax your citizens to pay for it all. Cost of living is sure to skyrocket and quality of life is sure to go down. We'll reward you with better trade deals that you can't access because states can't make international trade agreements."

Sounds productive.

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>>128897300
so you are saying that trump is against self-determination for the states?
i agree with you

>>128895321
>Actually they technically don't since federal law is superior to state law
Actually technically they do fuckface, because the 14th Amendment creates Constitutional Supremacy not Federal Supremacy, and the Federal Government is bound to act within the confines of its Constitutional mandate, with prohibition of any substance falling outside that mandate, hence why the people who wanted to ban alcohol at a federal level had to CHANGE THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION. Fucking libshit retard. Back to fucking reddit.

>>128892086
doesnt that mean they continue working on Paris agreement just without any obligations?

>>128892086
it's illegal

>>128896252
Take it up with the Constitution. War on drugs is a national security issue which falls under the federal government.

>>128892086
Can't wait to pay even more taxes in new york! Whopee! but hey a least I'm saving the planet! It's ok I bike to work, it's not like every other thing else I use in this city causes some kind of pollution. I'm Helping!

>>128897515
Top Kek

>>128897608
>the states decided this isn't true
No, it is true. Some states have decided to enable illegal activity in their borders and the federal government has tolerated it. The Executive could choose to enforce the law at any time.

>>128897659
>Illegal immigrants are a national security issue
if the voters and residents of the state don't want to arrest illegals then that's their right
get your fucking nose out of my local government
>Weed is a states rights issue
and trump is firing up the drug war and said he is going to stop states from choosing their future

>>128892086
Does it really matter? Without the USA Fed $$ the whole Paris Accord is going to fall apart in a few years. Obama committed over 3 BILLION dollars to this. The most any one country has to "contribute". What other country is going to step up to contribute top $? China? the country that doesn't have to do anything about their smog until 2030? LOL

Individual USA states cannot enter into international treaties or contribute funding for such.

>>128897498
Maybe. Sex with girls under 18 is illegal in all 50 states but some states say you can fuck 16 year old girls no mater how old you are. It's against federal laws but you will not get end up in fed court in most cases.

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>>128897515
>I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired this
Reeeeee! Deutschefags get out. You can send over your Dirndl bedressed women though.

>>128893315
>not knowing when a state steps out of line it'll get bitch slapped by the fed

oh boy.

Kill the EU.
Bomb them all.
We have no allies.
End this shit.

>>128898035
>if the voters and residents of the state don't want to arrest illegals then that's their right
Nope. Control of the national borders and internal borders is delegated to the Congress and President.

>>128897562
It was a joke Sessions made but people ran with it like he was actually joining the KKK.

>>128897794
>just say that everything is a "national security issue" and take away the rights of everyone on every topic
this is trump's stance unironically
this is exactly how the patriot act was passed
>IT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE! LISTENING TO YOUR PHONE CALLS AND E-MAILS IS FOR YOUR SAFETY, CITIZEN!

>>128898064
The federal AOC is 12.

>>128892086
>tfw when Europe respects the 10th Amendment more then our own government...

>>128898037
its all for show, trying to #RESIST
The fact is all the states that would want to be a part of the Paris Accord have a massive budget deficit as it is.

yet they never ask why Democrat policies lead to a budget deficit because they are good sheepies.

>>128898163
Calm down Ahmed, I think you've done enough damage already

>>128897741
Trump is for upholding the Constitution. War on drugs has to do with South America and is part of national security.

>>128898074
Sorry to be that guy. But that looks like the Boulder Colorado Flat Irons in the background. They are closer than you think!

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>>128892086
Oh noooooo!! This is really bad!! Lmao

>>128898222
an expired visa has nothing to do with the borders
>just call everything a "national security issue" and be done with it

>>128894050
3 years ago I hardly cared what the EU was. Now I see them as a bigger threat then Israel or the Muzzies. Fucking traitors.

>>128892086
Good, less time for Trump to waste on fake news.
>fickle, petty climatefags eternally misguided

>>128898163
but son
how about us

>>128898035
>if the voters and residents of the state don't want to arrest illegals then that's their right
>get your fucking nose out of my local government
This is possibly true, but the state or municipality might lose access to federal funds related to law enforcement activities including but not limited to drug policy and gangs. Actually while we are at it they might lose access to federal funds for many welfare programs which are habitually populated by illegal immigrants.

>>128898348
they just really want American money, thats all its about.

I'm not giving OP a click, but how is this supposed to work? Individual US states will voluntarily stifle their economies even though they don't have to? Sounds like complete bullshit.

>>128892363

States don't make foreign policy, shill.

>>128897779
I'm not liberal, but the 21'st amendment protects alcohol and not weed. Since the constitution does not defend it the next highest level of authority is the federal government and you know the rules there.

>>128898345
I don't think so. Feds can and will charge you with a sex crime against a minor for anyone under 18. Happens everyday in the USA.

>>128898380
>it's a "national security issue", guys! it's for your safety, scared boomers!

>>128892086
mad because putin is raping your asshole? don't worry they wont holodomor you this time

>>128892363
Diplomacy & trade is the only thing given to the US gov

BTFO

>>128898373
Shit like this leaves little doubt, no wonder people run you assholes over with trucks.
Fuck germany, fuck the french.

At least I know based Tennessee won't be signing over any of our money. Sorry Californians and New Yorkers, looks like you're screwed.

#GoPreds

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>>128898064
>>128898345 is right.

>>128898526

It is bs. It's illegal for a state to have an unbalanced budget.

>>128892985
>> wanting to be American so bad you actually read our constitution

Do you know how many people in America know anything at all about your country? Zero

>>128892086
Direct violation of the Logan Act. Let's see how this plays out for them cotton. Will we see a Green Secession movement in our lifetime?

The federal government of the USA has clearly lost all legitimacy. I'd say it's about time for American states to break free from this oppressive institution.

>>128896771
Oh, so the governments of the EU nations need to be overthrown and replaced with puppet regimes loyal to Washington, then.

>>128897515
>>128897515
The day eurotrash soldiers encroach on US soverignty is the day I start making the IED's that almost blew my ass up.

>>128898629
I thought we were friends Ahmed

>>128898610
Where do the majority of illegal drugs come from that are consumed in the US?

>>128898651
Yeah but in every case they prosecute you with a sex crime against a minor. MINIMUM age of consent.

Paris agree all you want, America just got out of the bill for helping developing nig-nogs.

>>128896825
>What's next, EU military bases on US soil
You already have mosques over there.

>>128898629
>>128898629

This so much. Does Germany seriously need another lesson in why not to fuck with Americans?

This is getting old.

>>128898908

why have a minimum if you can't fuck lolis

>>128898543
You ever wonder why the politicians felt they needed to pass a constitutional ammendment that would allow them to band and criminalize alcohol but they didn't feel the need to pass one to ban and criminalize other drugs?

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>>128892086
>Hey EU-chan, this isn't working out.. I think we should break up
"Nuh uh, you can't do that!! I can't hear you lalalala"
>Uhh okay.. we're still breaking up, you're a little crazy desu
"WELL MAYBE ILL JUST GO FUCK YOUR FRIENDS THEN HOW ABOUT THAT
>Err do whatever you want I guess.. I'll be going now
"LALALALALALALALALALALALA"

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>>128892086

>EU Will Ignore White House And Work Directly With US States On Paris Agreement

I see so what's the plan here?

California and the other blue states throw a bunch of regulations on their energy and industrial sector that drive them out of the blue states and raise their people's electricity costs?

Or maybe they're going to use their state budgets to subsidize green corporations and drive themselves further into debt?

Or are they going to go full retard and try to pay the $100 billion + a year in foreign aid to third world governments out of blue state treasuries?

Why do you think that watching the blue states shoot themselves in the foot would upset us?

>>128898240
That's wrong because surveillance conflicts with the Fourth Amendment. Drugs conflicts with no Amendment.

Allow the states to do whatever... Freeze all gov subsidies for the next 30 yrs to these states. No increase in funding due to their own poor decisions, no bankruptcy allowed

>>128896535
Though he's a good goy, he's a Republican neocon brand that isn't in alignment with their (((agenda))).

We should meme this and make Trump look like a cuck. People would shill it. He would press the damn button. The mad man would do it.

>>128898908
Federal government set the guideline of 12-18. The States were then left to cut out their blocks, in some cases starting at 16. This shows that the Federal government has supremacy.

>>128898435
An expired visa means your presence within our borders is a crime. Allowing illegal residents to stay is a national security issue.

>>128898602
The feds will go after you for underage porn and interstate sex crimes with minors, but the federal age of consent for sex is 12, not 18, and the federal threshold for statutory rape is 16.

>>128899244
>no bankruptcy allowed
States already can not file bankruptcy. They had to change the rules to allow puerto rico to get their quasi-bankruptcy. Municipalities can file bankruptcy.

>>128898896
- internal growing and manufacture
- afghanistan
- china
- south america

and for your next question, the entrypoint of over 90% of illegal drugs into the US come through the ports on container ships and through the vehicle points of entry in 18-wheel cargo haulers and international mail....the drug mail from chinese labs has skyrocketed in recent years

the border is a meme, nigger

>>128897510
Yes, yes he did. I have no idea why everyone is so quiet about this today...

>>128899135
It's obviously an outdated law that is not considered anymore. If you have sex with a 17 year ok you can be charged in fed court, and likely will even if the state refuses to prosecute.

>This happens
>The economies of said states tank
>????
>Eco-cucks BTFO

>>128892086
"No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal...."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 10, CLAUSE 1

>>128896702
>Concern
>May
We'll see. I'm sure Sessions would love to do it but I hope Trump keeps him on his leash.

>>128899140
What article of the constitution are you citing as the basis for your claims?

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>>128894750
Even if the "world" could get its collective shit together and attempt a semi coordinated attack on the US mainland, Their collective retarded hissyfit would merely result in them all getting raped by the US military.Additionally, we could always employ the use of nukes in such a situation. Plus, as a final deterrent, a person with a gun behind every blade of grass. Trying to invade mainland USA is far more retarded than trying to invade mainland Russia.

Need I remind you that your country no longer has a real military and simply has a small group of overrated boyscouts with guns. The US has tens of thousands of troops and equipment stationed in Europe including in you pathetic nation.
Stay cucked germany.

>>128892912
>liberals legalize cannabis in 28 states
>liberals never liked states rights
Nigger you must be retarded

>>128894750

LEL, 60% of americans? PERHAPS 5% would sympathize at best. the other 95% would fight you to the last man and the best you could hope for is the end off all life on earth.

>>128892363
Fuck off retard

>>128899631
Um no. Not unless the minor was under 12. I think you don't quite understand how AOC works

ANTI-FEDERALISTS RISE UP

>>128894773
Hilarious but that part has nothing to do with this

>>128899464
They can and will find a sex crime to charge you with. It might not be called "statutory rape" but it will be a sex crime against a minor. Spin that anyway you want. The idea that you can fuck a 17 year old girl in Texas and not face fed charges is false. If she complains or her family does your fucked. They will find something to charge you with dude. Do they prosecute every single case? No but if she raises a stink you are fucked.

>>128900073
>>128899841
Wrong. Liberals would die for germany, not Trumpland. You would have to kill your own people first (not saying you wouldnt do it).

>>128898543
The 21st amendment doesnt protect alcohol you illiterate cave dweller, it repeals the 18th amendment. The one that outlawed alcohol to begin with. The prohibition of substances is outside the federal governments constitutional mandate, hence without an amendment to the constitution the right of the federal government to ban substances is illusory. The constitution doesnt need it defend it, it can still be banned by the states. But read the 10th amendment, the most inconvenient for people in favor of a unitary state like yourself. The subject of the production, distribution and consumption of substances is neither banned to the states nor relegated to the federal government. Hence, it is to the states and the municipalities to decide legislation governing it. FFS this is constitutionalism 101. At least read the fucking thing man.

>>128899140
Prohibition was done with a Constitutional Amendment because the proponents of it wanted to make it harder to repeal. Other drugs had been banned by simple federal law before Prohibition.

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>>128892086
>1 post by this ID

>>128900209
Enjoy prison, you will end up there for certain if you think you can fuck girls under 18 in the USA. Ask a lawyer if you want a better explanation.

>>128892086
RUSH ACT!
RUSH ACT!
RUSH ACT!
RUSH ACT!
RUSH ACT!

>>128900338
I don't see why that wouldn't be handled by local law enforcement.

>>128900406
And federal minimum wage exists too, that doesnt suddenly make it constitutional.

>>128892517
Rush act.

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>>128900366
poor quality bait.
get your own shit in order first.

>>128893486
>article 1 section 10 paragraph 3 of the US constitution

"unless actually invaded"

this is a sign

>>128892086
EU is the boss in USA now Drumpfie

>>128900338
Also, the AOC in Texas is 17, so I'm pretty sure nobody would arrest or prosecute you for having sex with a 17-year-old.

Watch El Rato blow climate liars the fuck out

https://youtu.be/Sl9-tY1oZNw

>muh 97%
>muh 97%
>muh pause
>muh 97%

It's China that pollutes the earth most heavily.

>>128900406
The feds can certainly prohibit the interstate trade of a substance. But the federal government does not have general police powers.

>>128896702
>Last week,

Wew! thanks for the fresh news. Jeff Sessions can't stop States from legalizing marijuana, even if he wanted to.

>>128900558
If she or the family complains to the Feds they will add charges and arrest you.
>oh her dad says you two went for a ride?
>Kidnapping
>she smelled like alcohol?
>she was drugged etc
Charges become very very serious instantly just because she is 17 which is not against state law. See what I mean?

Wouldn't this be exactly what they are trying to torpedo Trump for? Colluding with foreign powers to directly contradict and undermine US policy? Isn't that what they are trying to pin on Flynn?

Maybe I'm just confused

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>>128900929
>mfw Trump could end the drug war today if he wanted
>mfw he could have ended it on day 1
>so could Obama
>mfw no one realizes this
>mfw no one is mad about it

>>128892753
Of course they would. Virtue signalling knows no boundaries.

>>128900812
Orban is that you?

>>128900366
we had a German Officer attached to my unit while I was in.

Guy was such a fucking stickler and would go out of his way to try to fuck people over. It gave me good insight into how Germans are as a people.

>>128893345
top kek

tefllon don

>>128900375
I know what the tenth says. That doesn't change that there is federal laws that have a higher authority over the matter. That is not even going into the judicial rulings of the substance and what is classified as.

Do you into case law bro?

>>128893345
>Another liberal meme that uses mainstream fictional characters
>Misquote
She said they can't rely on the US but here we are, watching her beg each individual state to join their money laundering scheme.
So you joined a fan club? Nice work. What does the fan club do? Nothing? Wow.

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>>128900658
http://www.militaryinstallations.dod.mil/MOS/f?p=132:CONTENT:0::NO::P4_INST_ID,P4_INST_TYPE:3370,INSTALLATION
Netherlands BTFO

>>128899606
I made a thread. See >>128901100

>>128901120
>he doesnt realize the drug war is almost 100% responsible for lowering violent crime rates in recent decades because the young black males cant shoot you and take your wallet from behind bars

Yeah, we just need to ban all UN officials from the United States. Trump needs to pass an executive order that states that working with the UN is treason and punishable by hanging.

>>128900534
You've lost your motherfucking mind. I'm going to use Nevada for this example; the age of consent is 16. If you are in Nevada you can fuck a 16 year old, unless you are their parent or guardian and shit, have a position of trust blah blah

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>>128901093
No you racist, Drumpf colluded with RUSSIA, thats CORRUPTION! Its not corruption to collude with the (((FREE WORLD))) to (((SAVE THE PLANET)))

fucking drumpfkins

>>128899598
>recent years
You need to make that argument then, because it's been South America for decades.

>>128892086
Yeah. Thats illegal.

>>128892086
Can't wait for these people to try and fail. They'll ultimately end up loosing- trying up Trump, just like everyone else here.

>>128900783
See
>>128901042
Obviously they are not going to do this for every complaint, but you can easily do hard prison time for shit like this. If she or her family makes a big fuss it's over for you dude.

>>128892363
>>128892086
This is illegal under the constitution.

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>>128892086
>Jew York and Commiefornia try to be snide assholes and do it to spite Trump
>Trump slams them for being unconstitutional traitors
>Everything gets shut down
>All illegals get deported within a month
>They can't do shit about it or be completely branded full on traitors working to subvert the country and work with foreign powers

Oh my fuck yes make it happen. They can't do anything or else they're unconstitutional as all fuck and basically traitors.

>>128892086
California can't even afford their train in the middle of nowhere.

>>128901093
Trump colluded with Russia to influence the election outcomes. The EU is collaborating with American states to develop the green economy. Learn the difference, it could save your life

>globalist states
Jesus Christ

>>128901580
Dude ask a lawyer. If she complains enough and says the right shit you are fucked and the Feds will prosecute. I've met several lawyers who have told me that.

>>128901857
>to influence the election outcomes
>rooster.jpg

>>128893223
>General Electric
this company needs to burn.

>>128900559
Neither one is likely constitutional, although I assume the fallback for drug regulation is that the CSA was passed to bring the US in line with the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, which made such a law necessary. The stock justifications for a federal minimum wage and drug scheduling are undoubtedly some perversion of the Interstate Commerce Clause, but the treaty gives the drug law more legitimacy.

>>128892753
I thought that's why Trump got elected

Why dont you just let commiefornia go at this point? They are more trouble than they are worth.

>>128892517
We haven't actually withdrawn from the Paris Accords

>>128899878
they don't, they just know when to pick their battles.

>>128901857
amen sister
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Ftn2n1VTU

>>128892086

Soooo, directly what the white house will do with individual European countries on everything else? Don't Ukrainians know that the EU is dead asf?

>>128901987
ok man, you can think whatever you want.

>>128898035
>if the voters and residents of the state don't want to arrest illegals then that's their right
>get your fucking nose out of my local government
not how it works faggot fucking kys.

>>128900613
Well here is the thing: anti-germans, commies, liberals, social democrats, conservatives, christians

IN GERMANY ARE ALL UNITED IN THEIR HATRED FOR AMERICA

>>128901134
No, I'm white

>>128901669
bro, the DEA has been publishing new info about this for years and trying to school the gov about it but no one cares because it's extremely hard to police the new routes without having a massive, costly impact on international commerce....it just costs private businesses too much to search all the containers and the mail

Whats extremely fucking annoying is that under the Obongo administrations States could not openly defy policy that Washington sets. But when cities and states blatantly defy the new Administration they get a free pass from the courts.

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>>128892086

>implying states rights is a bad thing

>>128898462
it's in the constitution you fucking shit. it's not about how you feel. ffs kys painfully.

>>128902309
She can literally just lie and say you raped and beat her. She is 17, they will charge you with raping a fucking minor. Think about it anon

>>128900366
liberals would just run to canada like they do whenever there's a war.

>>128901465
>the law is he whom the sheriff will obey
Oliver Wendell Holmes pls go you cancerous piece of shit. The Constitution is binding, any other interpretation is literally subversive and jewish. The Constitution clearly prohibits the federal government from legislating the matter except insofar as such substances or funds for such literally cross state borders, or on federally owned land.
>I know what the tenth says
You just dont care, we know.
>That doesn't change that there is federal laws that have a higher authority over the matter
Federal laws are only supreme and legitimate insofar and coincide with the constitutional mandate of the federal government. The Federal government cannot unilaterally grant itself new powers, thats literally tyranny. Youre literally 100% engaging in apology for tyranny that is directly outlawed by our most supreme legal document.
>>128901535
>80% of firearm homicides are drug related but the drop in drug crime is related to the drug war
No. The crime rate has been dropping because darkeys literally begged the government to police their communities harder.
>because the young black males cant shoot you and take your wallet from behind bars
America has always been segregated, I wouldnt be in danger of that regardless of if there was a drug war. People keep to their own and negros are no different.

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>>128892530
>>>128892086 (OP)
>Oh Drumpfy this is just sad.
>I think we should stop embarassing him now or he might fire some nukes ...

You know states rights ous what he is pushing for Hans. They are doing what he wants, not a win.

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>>128900366

turkroach shitskin plz go away

>>128901042
>Charges become very very serious instantly just because she is 17 which is not against state law. See what I mean?
No. Texas AOC is 17 and the feds only deal with statutory under 16.

>>128900812
>total fucking nigger
wow affirmative action works

>>128892896
"we made new laws that just so happen to be like the Paris agreement laws, pure coincidence"

although I guess the elites would still be pissed because the states wouldn't be able to pay towards the 100 billion in development money to third world shitholes each year the Paris agreement guarantees

>>128898706
The only thing I know about Bulgars is when the Bulgar Slayer Emperor of the Byzantines mamed and blinded a shitload of Bulgar warriors after defeating them in battle and sent them back home where they became a social and economical burden.

>>128899598
>not all our drugs come from mexico
>guess we don't need no laws and borders and shieet

>>128902309
She can say you kidnaped her or gave her alcohol or anything. It becomes sec crimes against a minor that the Feds pick up. It doesn't matter if it's 17 in that state. You will have to register as a sex offender if she says the right thing.

>>128902577
17-year-olds are not minors for the purpose of simply having sex at the federal level. If you take pictures or one of you crosses a state line, then there might be trouble.

>>128902840
Because that's what they want. Income redistribution to the third world.

>>128902577
Wow anon, they've got you locked in their fear box good.

>>128893037
So then, it will be states giving up millions of dollars to foreign governments that will achieve nothing?

>>128902320
my state
my rights

>>128901793
I guess California's one and a half billion dollar deficit magically disappeared.

>>128902586
By classification I meant the commerce clause, but it seems you need to relax so I won't begrudge you a little weed.

>>128902120
Actually hilariously enough Federal minimum wage is founded on a benchamrk case that declared its legal to mandate businesses giving women extra breaks/maternity leave because theyre inferior. The Constitution expressly forbids government intervention in private contracts in favor of any one party, but a case in Oregon came up where I think the state was mandating some kind of workplace protection for women and the Supreme Court ruled since women are shittier workers they need special protections. Fucking kek.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muller_v._Oregon

>>128902748
They WILL charge you with sex crimes and they WILL go after you viciously. Hard time and registration as a sex offender. Google it, ask a real defense attorney what can happen.

>>128892086
How is this not subversion?

>>128902983
the fear box. they own you.

>>128896771
Obama did the same thing, but in reverse. Endorsing =/= meddling. Putin endorsed Trump because Hillary would've caused WWIII. Trump endorsed Theresa May because he wants a good rapport with non-commies, and it's the crazy censorious Tories or the commies.

>>128902236
FUCKING THIS.

The agreements were already made. The states are just doing what the federal government already sanctioned legally. Tough cookies that they can't formally withdraw until 2020...

>>128892086
More reasons to flee Jew York.

>>128902586

The most that the states can muster are voluntary and non-binding agreements. If they try to make agreements that are anything but inconsequential pandering, the feds can shut it down.

Where are the states getting the funds?

Because oh yeah $ is involved first before muh climate change

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>>128903126
you don't know how our laws and constitution work.
>everything is states rights
no.

>>128892363
No, it isn't. Only the federal government is allowed to negotiate with foreign nations. If any states or individual citizens negotiate with a foreign nation, it is treason.

>>128892086
Holy fuck that's stupid. I live in NJ and my job has me dealing with our DEP constantly and they are the most incompetent, unprofessional, and uncaring organization I've ever dealt with. We're a liberal state that in theory has a large state government, good fucking luck you dumb Euro's

>>128902120
The CSA is cancer anyway. Its only saving grace is that its structured in such a way that a President could unilaterally nullify it in a day.

Also subordinating the US to international law is bunk anyway. We shouldnt be bound by the Geneva Convention or the Nuclear Test Ban treaty either.

>>128903084
You are dumb if you think a 16 or 17 year old can't ruin your life and get you 8-18 years in prison. Maybe you should make better life choices.

>>128903327
Yeah, their 3.5 billion budget deficit will sure help additional green energy spending.

>>128892363
I see all the replies to this.
Since the Paris agreement is bullshit anyway and non binding, this is probably correct.
Let faggot California larp that they are green.

>>128903331
Yeah Federal sovereignty beyond our borders, we present a unified front.

>>128892753
It's a few select states that want to, like California.

What will really fuck them though is that Trump is wanting to change the way our tax system works by making it so you can't write off your state taxes on your federal taxes. Which currently is done and allows high tax states like California to get away with not needing to pay as much in federal taxes. By forcing people there to pay full taxes for both state and federal it'll make it unfeasible for many to seriously operate there or will force the state to do away with some of their taxes.

Which is meaningful in regards to this Paris agreement because the only way a state could afford to pay into it is if they increase taxes.

>>128893011
it has the word climate in it so leftists go positively berserk over it

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>>128903204
>The ruling was criticized because it set a precedent to use sex differences, and in particular women's child-bearing capacity, as a basis for separate legislation, supporting the idea that the family has priority over women's rights as workers.

>"Until the late 1930s, when the Fair Labor Standards Act created gender-neutral workplace protections, the Equal Rights Amendment championed by the NWP would have demolished the gains for women workers won in Muller. This dispute between feminists who valued protection and feminists who valued equality continued until the latter group gained the upper hand in the 1970s."
lmao bring back beating women

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>>128893909
reminder of how stupid it is to enter into these agreements when China is rated as "on track" with the Paris agreement and the USA is apparently the big bully destroying the world

>>128903201
I get very upset about jewish subversion of the Constitution. Judicial Review being used to rewrite our Constitution has always rubbed me the wrong way. Its a subversion. I get equally peeved about gun control and minimum wage.

>>128903331
Actually you can't even negotiate or deal with foreign governments on the State level. The Logan Act confirms this by making it an actual felony.

>>128903859
Either that or whip up a feminist campaign to abolish minimum wage as a relic of heteropatriarchial structural bigotry.

>>128903278
Look, retard, you're describing scenarios where no crime is committed. There is nothing to charge anyone with.

>She can say you kidnaped her or gave her alcohol or anything.
oh wait, false reporting

>>128904041

It's not a "negotiation" or "deal" when it's non-binding.

>>128904662
That's for the courts to decide now.

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>>128904732
WOOOOOOOOOO

>>128897515
i dont think you can even comprehend how bad that would be for you

>>128903510
I agree.

>>128903529
Don't put the pussy on a pedestal and don't hang out with high schoolers. I don't get why you're freaking out; all I'm telling you is what the laws actually prohibit. Yes, AOC in most states and territories is 16-18, but federal AOC is 12. If you live in Texas and fuck a 17-year-old from Texas with consent while remaining in Texas and breaking no laws, you have not committed a crime.

>>128904220
Somehow I don't think they'd fall for it. Any feminist-oriented economic policy would have to be either pro-family or aimed at acceleration.

>>128892086

why didn't you archive it

>>128894731
i dont think they are legally binding

>>128905530
>acceleration
As in, destructive accelerationism? i.e. we think this is wrong but were gonna pump it up and go down this road as fast as possible so as to fuck it, and them, up as hard as we can?