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Okay I need to confront this Since the London attack I've

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Okay I need to confront this

Since the London attack I've been thinking of scenarios where some fucker with a knife is charging at people and I'm unarmed. What the fuck could I do? Just throw shit at him? Hold a large table or chair to create distance while at the same time fighting back? or is the only thing I can do is run?

I mean this makes me realize that some motherfucker from the year 1200 could fuck an entire theater of people up. Isn't that HORRIBLE?! A naked man from a tribe with a bow and arrow could hurt people these days. Is the only solution a modern weapon like a gun? Or is there clothing I could wear everywhere I go that keeps me from being stabbed?

Did the media and /pol/ successfully scare me?
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>>128790318
Ive been thinking about this too..
I think the best bet is run, unless you are in doors.
then you just have to hope there are some brave men who will charge the attacker and cave his head in, you could be one of them.
who knows what anyone would do in the moment but I hope there would be enough men around and no faggots to give each other the nod and kill the fucker with his own knife.
Id like to carry a weapon but
>flag
you can put books up your top to create a makeshift stab vest.
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>and I'm unarmed
There's your first mistake
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>>128790318
in real life if you had some guys show up to one of the busiest tourist areas in London and started stabbing people, you better believe they would get tackled. They would be getting charged by people wielding tables as battering rams, using broken bottles, . Kitchen knives all over the restaurants, forks, you name it. Adrenaline would be so fucking off the charts.

in fantasy land it is like Friday the 13th. No where to run. No where to hide. nothing around to help you.
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You can't fight a knife with anything but a gun. If you've got a knife yourself, the odds are basically 50:50 but even if you "win", you won't get off unscathed, you might even die of your injuries later on.

Two solutions against a knife wielding opponent :

-carry a gun and train to draw fast
-run


Everything else (martial arts, etc) is bullshit.
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>>128790318
go find a mage trainer and learn the lightning bolt skill
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I'd offer to suck his cock
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>>128794256
Martial arts isn't bullshit. In Bruce Lee's trainings, he points out a number of ways how a martial artist can have more advantage over someone weilding a melee. Especially a knife. Anyone weilding a knife is not going to be prepared for a kick to the head.
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>>128790318
Get a CHL if you're afraid of getting stabbed. Carry a pistol with you and practice your draw/shoot at a range once a month.

If you can't get a CHL/handgun, and you don't want to carry it illegally, then carry a good fold-out knife (or fixed blade, if you can carry it legally) and a high intensity flashlight. Anything, ANYTHING is better than your fist if someone is attacking you, and a high intensity flashlight can disorient an attacker at least for a few moments--perhaps long enough for you to either get away or try to stab him first.

Also, there's always pepper spray. Red Sabre/FOX both sell a very potent mace-foam that hurts badly enough that a belligerent who isn't braced for an irritant attack will essentially be rendered helpless.

Pic related is the flashlight I carry everyday. Best $80 I've spent in years.
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>>128790318
grab a fire extinguisher, they're available in most public places, spray them in the face then bash their skull in with the tank
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>>128790318
> Or is there clothing I could wear everywhere I go that keeps me from being stabbed?

I hope that comment is a joke, because if its not we are so done for. We are so impotent these days.
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>>128790318
That's easy. Bring a bin with you at all times.
In case of knife emergency, politely ask the quintessentially British fellow to bin it.
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>>128795082
Most martial arts fighters will tell you to leg it buddy
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>>128790318
There's a webmaster that shows up in ret threads of a homeless Blackman robbing a restaurant back office after hours 3v1 and kills everyone. It's heartbreaking how close the last guy is to winning too.

Run, but know you doom everyone else to die... or pick up the nearest anything to fight back with. Learn to make a milwarke hammer like a proper brit, a chair, wrap your jacket around an arm to shield, head but them, anything is better than nothing and 2 people could take them down. Or just carry a knife, they don't stop poor people m8
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carry a self defence keyschain or sharpen the end of an umbrella
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>>128795817
Or offer to suck brown cock.
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>>128790318
Train in any actually useful martial art, like Escrima for example. And I don't mean, go to a course and be done with it. Make a hobby out of it. You'll make friends with people who also train and improve together.
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>>128794525
>>128796459

tell us whats wrong anon
what happened
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>>128790318
>What the fuck could I do? Just throw shit at him?
You are of Indian decent, yes?
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>>128796749
I just like the taste of cock. What's wrong with that?
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The fucked up part about the London bridge attack, was that they were 3 dudes with footlong knives...
Even if you have a knive or flashlight, vs 3 it's fucked up. ..
Only if you have family and kids nearby and you want to buy them time to escape and survive, should you attempt to confront the knive roaches with your improv weaponry....
Also, the attackers had fake bomb belts on so potential 'heroes' shit themselves even more.....
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>>128792011
fuck running,i would be honoured to die fighting to the death to disarm him

i know id be remembered as a hero

i would do my best to get his knife and stab him with it and if i failed at least i wasnt a faggot

just lunge at them and push your thumbs into their eyes if he stabs you...drag them to hell with you deus vult!
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Carry acid in a plastic bottle. A handgun would be the way to go really. Fine sand in a small container and thrown in an attackers eyes.
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>>128797058
to be fair though i am borderline psychotic so if you are a normie and scare easily and dont get a boner for violence toward people you hate knowing you would get a pat on the back for it also then i suggest you run.
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>>128792011
>you can put books up your top to create a makeshift stab vest.

Library designated BUNKER

This is fucking sad.
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>>128797058
>remembered as a hero
lmao
remembered for a day as "the guy who died"
then they will chant "not all muslims" "we are not afraid" "welcome refugee" "part and parcel"
and you will just be a detail.
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run
find something just as stabby but longer and gang up on the attacker
If you have to roll around with someone that has a knife, maybe use a jacket or something to try and cover the blade, try and control the hand with the knife in it, hope other people help you out before you get tired.
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>some fucker with a knife is charging at people and I'm unarmed.

The trick is to be armed.
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>>128790318
http://blog.suarezinternational.com/2017/06/the-real-solution-to-terrorist-knife-attacks.html
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>>128797207
who litterally are you? a non country
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>>128797391
like lee rigby? lol no

its not about being remembered as one anyway,its about being one

if you have not found somert worth dying for you dont deserve to live
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>>128790318
Harden your hand and run straight into him and shove your hardened hand though his eye and penetrate the jelly in the brain. Ignore any damages you take since pain is a shameful dispray.
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>>128790318
Let him kill you.

If he kills you, you win.
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>>128797574
Are you on the right or the left of Tel Aviv?
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>>128797836
use your house key but you are right,go for the eyes or adams apple,regardless of how big and strong you are you get hit in those you are fucked

dont be ashamed to kick them in the groin either,its not a boxing match
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>>128797058
>being remembered by faggots
>being in an owen jones video of him >'remembering you'
>dont look back in anger at your funeral
>parents "dont blame the terrorist"

sort your life out lad
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>>128790318
This is why I live in rural Vermont.
>Majority White
>To carry you need to be at least 16 with parents permission.

If you are honestly this worried move out of the city, whenever I go to a major city I feel uneasy and that the whole thing is just unnatural
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>>128797046
>Also, the attackers had fake bomb belts on so potential 'heroes' shit themselves even more.....

Not everyone - >https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3738730/hero-millwall-fan-reveals-his-injuries-to-the-sun-after-he-stopped-london-bridge-jihadis-attacking-women-and-children-in-restaurant/
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>>128797913
i read you are a french colony to the east of australia? are you a french white person or nigger?
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>>128790318
>clothing
Heavy denim is your best bet as far as easily available consumer product. Walk around in full canadian tuxedo every day and you will be well-protected against the religion of pierce.
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>>128798009
dads dead and my mum is as racist as i am

i like oasis

lol i dont think owen jones will like me if he sees the shit i post on facebook which the media would look through.
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>>128797207
Omar taught me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI0roSczrT4
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>>128790318
>What the fuck could I do? Just throw shit at him? Hold a large table or chair to create distance while at the same time fighting back? or is the only thing I can do is run?

Just look at your flag. You should be ashamed.
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>>128798245
but you take my point.
]you actually have to kill him to be something
but knowing our country, you would go to prison for a hate crime

I like Oasis too
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I'm truly sorry anon. Nobody should ever have to worry about this.
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>>128795082

Legit dumb cunt.

If a guy has the intent to kill you, is using a blade anything bigger than a fucking butter knife and you intend to kick him in the head you deserve to be stabbed. Fucking Darwin Award.
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>>128797913
fucking kek'd
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>>128790318
The point of confronting any bad guy is to get his attention on you so he isn't hurting other people. You could get hurt or worse, but that's what you are doing if you decide to step up. Hopefully other men will see what your doing and help. Oh and if you live in Kansas, you draw and shoot his muzzy ass.
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At least carry a knife.
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>>128790318
>>128790318
Running should always be your first option unless you feel compelled to defend persons or property.
Not much you can do against a gun except wait for the shooter to become careless and take it by surprise. Extremely risky.
Knives are the same. Small knives you probably just want to keep your distance but if you feel the need to confront a long blade like a machete; the best bet is to get inside so even if you have to take a swing, it won't be full a full tilt fuck-your-head-right-from-your-neck swing.
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>>128798182
and pussy
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>>128793309

This. I literally have no sympathy for someone that gets killed if they could have been carrying a gun.
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>>128790318

The fact that you have to ask that question aloud says worlds.

Once Britannia was the most feared empire in the world. Marching abreast side by side into volleys of musket fire, sailing full mast into superior enemy fleets, parachuting behind enemy lines with no regards to numbers.

Now you cower and ponder how to fight a turd with a pointy piece of metal.
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>>128798098
Your guess bong?
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as part of my line of work (not police), i had to undergo a couple of weeks physical training dealing with stuff like someone with a knife, and have mandatory refresher every 5-6 months.

Basically, we get taught to shout that there is someone with a knife - just shouting knife as loud as you can will alert others

secondly, try and get away from the person, as much distance as possible - run, if you can't run or are trapped, put physical objects in the way, chairs, tables whatever

a knife obviously causes far more damage than fists, but it also gives the knife user extra reach - if you're in a scernaio where you are are basically about to fight them, get any object in your hand and use it - you want to create distance

most people who aren't proffesionally trained in using a knife will either thrust the knife towards your stomach, or come down at you stabbing (like the shower scene in pyscho stabbing) - we get trained to block that and to disarm - whether i would remember to use it is another fucking thing, but basically if you can't block use the outside of your arms to try and stop the stabbing. however, anyone with any degree of training in knife work will soon have you dead

one thing to consider - lots of people who get stabbed die because bystanders etc think the stabbed person is already dead due to all the blood - think about it, when you donate blood you give about a pint of blood and have zero ill effects - but imagine a pint glass of blood all poured out on the floor, it would look horrific, and you'd think "ah fuck, that guy is a dead", simply isn't the case

get some basic first aid training

tl;dr - let everyone know some mad cunt has a knife, run away, create physical distance, use an object, hope the person isn't properly trained
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>>128798878
not all turds mate
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>>128790318
All of your plans will probably go out of the window when three men wearing supposed suicide vests come charging at you with blades screaming something about Allah.
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>>128790318
Stand near me. I always conceal. Story ends in less than 2 seconds.
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>>128798980
That's the most unmanly thing I have ever read.
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>>128798636
I want to give Bruce Lee some credit here because he's obviously reaching for Sun Tzu. Yes, if you can literally kick that motherfucker in the head, you're gonna win that fight. If that nigger was so dumb he let you kick him in the head, you also had 400 other opportunities to win before you landed that cranial roundhouse.
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knives are extremely dangerous

people underestimate just how dangerous a stab wound is

just run
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>>128799176
good post though>>128798980
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>>128798890
What a disgraceful photograph.

History will always remember him as the bestialist addict he was during his life.
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>>128799176
>It's manly to die from easily defensible scenarios
Life's not like the movies, Rambo.
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>>128797913
do you think you will get truck of peaced?

do you guys even get (((refugees)))
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>>128799176

alternately spear the mad cunt who has the knife with your dick like a real man
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>>128790318
Defending a knife attacker at close range is one of the hardest things to do.
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>>128799303
Just keep your head down and stay quiet. Not everyone is taught to graze.
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>>128790318

You are literally more likely to be struck by lightning than die in a terrorist attack

If you are so scared of dying why are you not obsessed with car safety for example? Cars kill 30,000 people a year in the USA, that's equivalent to 10 9/11s every year yet people don't freak out because it doesn't fit the narrative
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>>128799514
>I watched Murican Sniper 5 times so I think I'm a sheepdog.
I hope your wife gets raped in front of you, faux macho faggot.
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>>128799523
cars don't really factor into ethno - nationalism
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>>128790318
I think you could use something big like a chair or trashcan so that you can attack him without getting inside stabbing distance, unless he is willing to throw his knife at you, but that's unlikely to even work. You could also throw things like stones or bottles from a nearby trashcan at him. Even if you don't succeed in beating him, you will give others time to run away while he is focused on you, and if you are in good physical health, you can just outrun him when he charges, so you won't even get hurt.
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https://moderncombatandsurvival.com/featured/tactical-firearms-training-vs-a-knife/
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>>128797789
Getting slaughtered mercilessly on the streets your ancestors built isn't really my idea of something worth dying for.
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To be honest you probably have to fear vehicles more than you do knives. Plus, even if youre the victim of an extremist Muslim terrorist attack and get stabbed and killed, its not like you'll live to regret it.

Your only hope is to create a full body iron knight suit of armor like your ancestors did, and then papier-mâché pages of the Quran all over it. Youll be invincible.
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>>128799673
He's being sarcastic.
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>>128795229
This. Any kind of ranged weapon such as pepper spray is your best bet.
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>>128798980
this is the correct answer

>>128799176
Thinking there are techniques for safely controling and fighting someone with a knife unarmed is like thinking there are techniques using a knife to fight a gun, no matter how prepared you think you are, odds are not in your favor. There is a reason ancient warriors were all armed with at least spears, and didnt march against blades unarmed.
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>>128790318
I disarmed a mugger of a knife once. Grab the wrist and the knife quickly and apply a yanking movement to get it.

Though don't get pushed by the second mugger from the side at that moment. You end up sticking your hands out to stop your fall on your face and the knife flies back towards the muggers. Then you hate life.
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>>128799665
I don't know what your talking about.
Going to go clean my guns. Stay safe limey.
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>>128799775
I bloody hope so to
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>>128790318
>live in US
>wat do if knife
BUY A GUN
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>>128799909
So don't be unarmed.
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>>128797192
lel
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>>128797058
If I were a disarmed bong, I'd probably do the same (unless the attacker is 20+ feet away with a gun). It's not the smartest decision, perhaps, but I'm not sure if I could live with myself otherwise.
To be fair to running, at least you'd be more likely to live and share your story. That way, you can say "As a survivor..." and proceed to shit all over Muslims, while having more than enough reason to do so.
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>>128797177
Is that a acid plastic bottle or are you just happy to see me?
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Usually one stab or slash won't kill you.
It's being passive when someone with a knife attacks you, which is going to kill you.
Try to evade the first attack and get in close, trying to put an arm around the arm, which's hand holds the knife.
Then deliver a knee into the nuts, get him to the ground and smash his head into the ground a couple times.
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>>128792011
Wear a tool belt everywhere you go. Or has Bongistan banned carpenter's hammers and crescent wrenches?

Plus, you'll have tools.
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>>128797391
Agree, you'd be better of going undercover to the mosques in a disguise, locating radicals and lone wolfing the shit out of them somehow. Off course I do not condone such actions, it's just a joke.
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>>128790318
Need more details. I'm one of those people that tries to understand my surroundings and be prepared if something goes wrong. Am I just walking down the street and some snackbar is coming at me and everyone else around me? On one side I'm probably close to a shop I could duck into, and if I'm lucky there are no cars and I can literally run across the street and call the po-po from there. If these options are unavailable I can just turn and run; if I can put an intersection between myself and the jihadi, I'm probably secure, and even if not, I'm making myself less of a target than anyone not reacting the same way I am.

But let's face it - there aren't enough snackbars in this country to do more than open up falafel shops and the occasional mosque in a bad neighborhood, and if one of them tried something on the street even in the most liberal city there'd be six conceal-carry guys trying to be a hero.
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>>128799295
Niggress got bleached m8

>>128799311
>do you think you will get truck of peaced?
Honestly extremly low chances. No "usual" mudslimes here, but theres a weak indonesian muslim community, javaneses. They got the only mosque of the country, somewhere lost in the jungle, out of towns.

>do you guys even get (((refugees)))
None. Some years ago, France tried to send us some arabs with funds to build a mosque in town, for, enrichissement purpose. Wallisians (one of the islandics) went fucking mad and rioted.
They fucking hate mudslimes, but not for your usual reasons. They hate them because eating pig is prohibited when theyre around. And pig, is the base of the wallisian culture. Before they got colonised it was basically their money.
The the riots were basically bbqs and throwing sausages and cops.
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>>128795082
Maybe Bruce Lee could pull this off against your average weaboo or sand nigger.

You though? No.
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>>128797983
Fuck that, kick them in the neck, kill them.
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you aint winning no knife fight unless you
have a gun, have a sword or can quickly overpower/subdue the enemy
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>>128790318
You're American, buy a gun and use it, duh
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>>128790318
take self defense lessons, learn how to disarm a knife wielding assailant. Hell, look at some youtube videos about disarming knives
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>>128800818
Exactly. Yes there are martial arts techniques for dealing with knives but a poor trained guy with a knife will beat a poorly trained guy with no knife every time.

And an expert in hand to hand who has a knife has a huge advantage over an expert in hand to hand who doesn't.
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>>128796312
>webmaster that shows up in ret threads of a homeless Blackman robbing a restaurant back office after hours 3v1 and kills everyone. It's heartbreaking how close the last guy is to winning too.
ret threads? don't know what that is. I however did a search on liveleaks and nothing came up. could you share a link to this 3v1 fight to the death?
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>>128801366
Ugh I know what vid and it's so depressing, one of the few things that gets to me now was that futile struggle
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>>128790318
If I were on London Bridge and a knife wielding terrorist came lunging toward me then I wouldn't jump into the thames River because Arabs can't swim
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>>128800447
Nope, you aren't legally allowed to carry tools in bongistan. Hell, I saw an article just yesterday about that very subject.
A handyman walked into a restaurant, had the cops called on him and was subsequently tased for seemingly no reason. The reason? He forgot about the screwdriver he left in his pocket.
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>>128801609
Would*
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>>128800788
White master got AIDS, m8
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Why are Americans and Trump so afraid of Terrorists. You're 100,000X more likely to get killed by Africanized Killer American than a Terrorist.
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>>128801180
As one example of where this wouldn't work. If you're flying to another American city for vacation, you can pack up your gun and check it into the plane's cargo hold, but you can't bring ammo, and your conceal-carry license probably doesn't apply in the state you're going to. Most domestic tourists are unarmed.
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>>128801677
aint no aids when its yet to be discovered
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>>128790318
Wear steel toed boots as a rule of conduct. When Salim Sandar Al-Nijjar is stabbing some schmuck, you kick him in the head as hard as you fucking can. Keep doing it until he's dead. Take his knife and repeat until all sandmen are dead or you are.
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>>128790318
Can you legally carry a can of hornet spray around in Bongland? It sprays 20 feet or so and burns the fuck out of eyeballs.
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>>128792011
Running is what kills people. You need to turn on these guys and bum rush them. One stab won't kill you and if you have help, his knife won't count for much. You and your buds will be able to take the cunt down.

The only reason they can kill is because they go unchallenged and they are allowed to finish people off. The vehicle was used to incapacitate people so they could be murdered easily. You can't make it easy for them. Assemble the lads and fight.
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>>128801989
RARE
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You could also go for carrying a dandy walking stick around at all times.
No weapon
No tool
When made from oak it delivers a terrible punch.
Or a cricket bat... when police asks, you were just on the way to the training

Kids nowadays are just so fucking helpless and unimaginative
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This might sound stupid but you can start wearing padded leather gloves. We use them in psychiatry when inspecting patient's belongings.

I've had encounters wherealm hits the tip of a needle but no damage done to my hands.

And one time at work i tried slashing a kitchen knife lightly and then harder and harder against my palm and i could hit my hands pretty damn hard before i sensed danger.

Not saying its smart to try catch the knife of a charging muzzie but im sure in a situation where you Will automatically put hands up to defend yourself with some thick padded leather gloves, it might help not only to defend but it might be easier for you to punch back without fear of hurting your hand.

Other than that. Keep a Pet rock om your pocket. If by chance you're stoped by police you can say its a lucky rock. Maybe practice rock throwing, it won't kill anyone but if you can hit the head it Will buy you time. Or you can simply use the rock to punch with.

Or just keep a knife on you.

A leather jacket could help too. You may look silly in leather jacket and gloves but it helps more than cotton shirt and bare hands.
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But you're not unarmed, anon.
You have a brain and two arms.
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>>128802828
Make a fucking necklace with a pendant that turns into a knife knuckle duster if you are diy inclined?
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>>128802828
I used to be a meatcutter and we had white cloth gloves for newbies that were hard to cut through, but still thin enough to not be cumbersome to wear. Better than nothing...
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>>128802886
well, most anons at least got the two arms - not sure about the brains, though
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>implying any of you actually "know" what you'd do in a terrorist attack.

You'd probably end up running away and pissing your pants like everyone else.
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>>128803245
I had a knife near my throat a couple years ago already and still I'm here to tell the tale.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEmOlW-xul4
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>>128802828
You can buy Kevlar glass handling gloves. They are literally designed to handle razor sharp edges.
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>>128803245
I've Walked in om patients who cut themselves or Are purple faced/dead by strangulation. And every time i was able to keep my head cold and act quickly.

I can't speak for a terrorist event or being attacked but i know i won't freeze in a shock moment
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Be prepared to die and make use of improvised weaponry.
Bike chains and poles might provide some extra distance
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>>128790318
>Since the London attack I've been thinking of scenarios where some fucker with a knife is charging
>An american
>What the fuck could I do?

Serious nigga?? Are you retarded?
YOU LIVE IN MURICA MOTHERFUCKER YOU COULD LITERALLY BLOW IN HALF THAT NIGGA HEAD WITH A MAGNUM 57

That's the beautiful thing of your country.
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Better talk to good ol' Mike......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2yfWaoUG8E
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>>128801949
>Can't bring ammo
It may be a retarded question, but couldn't you just get ammo in the state you're visiting? I have no idea what you could do with the unused ammo at the end of your trip though, as you can't put it on a plane, maybe you could sell it back to a shop?
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>>128804337
He could be Californian.
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>>128790318
Arm yourself with something homemade and easily replaced.
God forbid you ever have to use it, you drop it in a storm drain or dumpster and make another. Then you never speak about it.
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>>128801989
Das a pretty cool flag mane.
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>>128790318
You can use gloves. That SAS guy who's been going on Sky news, Phil Campion, was carrying around gloves to deal with cultural enrichment. And a ballistic vest.
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>>128790318

Take off a belt and whip him in the face with the buckle.
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>>128804520
Well if he's scared like a lil bitch he can move to another state
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>>128804337
I assumed OP, instead of being the usual burger prick and laughing at the disarmed Bongs, was trying to be sympathetic and place himself in their position.
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>>128804696
A Californian would never move to a state with spooky guns
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>>128804766
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get some body armor
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Metatron made a video on this, he lives in Italy where he can't carry around a self defense weapon pretty much so he shared how he defends himself which is a bit weird but I trust it is effective. Also he talks about misconceptions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwXpXg78VQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwXpXg78VQA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwXpXg78VQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwXpXg78VQA
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>>128790318
What troubles me is what else lingers.

Odds are if he has knife that's all he has. But say like a gunman is shooting people and you have the perfect opportunity to sneak behind him and try to take the gun or whatever. What if he has a suicide belt.

Honestly, run, every time.
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>>128790318
Most people don't handle shocks or surprise very well. That's what fucks them up, their panic. We're all so coddled and protected these days that when something goes out of our control we freak the fuck out.
Unless you're used to fucked up and stressful situations, like police or military, then chances are your going to sperg.
Generally, just thinking about what you'd do in a knife attack improves your odds of being usefull in a knife attack, because somewhere in the back of your mind you have a plan. Even if panicked and freaking out, you can call on those thoughts. Just be realistic in them.
>Don't be a fucking hero.
>Create distance and keep a clear escape.
>Distract but don't engage.
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>have pens
>stab snackbar in temple, eyes, cheeks w/e with pens
>except for me
>trades master race and physique
>can walk into bank with steel toes, knee protection, heavy coat, covered in knives
>smile to friendly negro security as I stroll in to deposit my pay
>have a hammer swinging on my hip too, why not? Maybe this will be my lucky day and a jihadi gets to meet a perpetually rage fueled flat roofer
>make new friends in jail
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>>128804770
Very well, each one with respective fetishes.
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>>128795082
I train ((Krav Maga)) and while we learn knife defence, literally every self respecting teacher will tell you that it's only for when running is completely impossible and even with years of training your chances of survival are slim if the other guy is planning for a murder instead of a robbery
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>>128805174
Right, you could be riding a bus, for example, and there's nowhere to go.
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>>128790318
nothing, your just a number. the state doesn't give a fuck if you die or not lmao.
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>>128790318
Just run until you have the advantage or whatever
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>>128805174
Well no shit. Not many people fight a knife attack out of good will or simply boredom.
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>>128804766
Noice
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>>128796463
This is what Im doing. Got a coup right wing pals and we practice boxing twice a week. We're lining up a Krav Maga trainer to teach us some knife disarming techniques. Not saying it's going to work every time but it's better than nothing. I also carry a knife with me at all times. Might end up trading out in a shtf scenario but it's better than being a little bitch.
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>>128790318
Would it be possible to build a taser that sticks to the attacker's clothing? Like a grenade-shaped object that is covered in velcro or something and has a ton of electrodes on all sides. There should be a circuit in it that fires the taser one second after it detects a predefined acceleration (the throw). Would work if the attacker doesn't wear a coat.
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>>128790318
Well according to tsun tzu you just need a different weapon with atleast 1/3 more reach.
Like a 9 in knife you fight with a 12 inch pole and you (theoretically) should be safe. However I'd just say finding any blunt weapons with a longer range is probably the best bet and to go for his knife instead of him because if you have a blunt weapon you should be able to have enough weight to slap the knife out of his hand then you savage him
>>128795719
He could just wear plate armor everywhere
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>>128790318
Pull out your gun and shoot him.

/thread
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Look around if there are a few men who you could help you fight him. If its more than one, join them.
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>>128790318
I usually conceal a knife on me. Sometimes I carry pepper spray also.
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>>128805615
Imagine if life was a simple as in reality as it is in your pea sized brain.
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>>128790318
If you're facing a knife attack and you can't sprint away, turn your body to the side (facing left preferably so that you heart isn't in his direction), keep your arms up with your wrists facing your body (this keeps him from slashing your wrists, obviously) and try to grab the arm and go for a break immediately.
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>>128805658
Knive v knife fights don't turn out so well.
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>>128805384
Some tactical shit right there

Also, OP, learn Kung Fu.
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>>128805786
I live in a state where it is essentially illegal to carry, so I will keep carrying the knife and pepper spray thank you. Knife is better than nothing. As long as its not assisted opening I can carry around a big pig sticker.
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>>128790318
allow him to get close enough and stab you, once this occurs you are in range to shove all your fingers directly through his eyes.

youll probably die but youll be a hero and end the threat
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>>128790318
lift weights and carry knives
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>Keep your distance
find a car or something to run around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBrN-ax2eJA
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>>128805714
It was a joke you tea slurping Chad. This is why british people are getting stabbed.
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>>128805962
>>I live in a state where it is essentially illegal to carry
I live in a country like that. That's why you break the law. Have fun getting sliced up by Tyrone when you pull out a knife at the same time as he does. A shield and pepper spray may come in more handy.
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>>128805340
>>128805367
My point was that even as a martial arts master, you have no advantage over a druggie with a knife. Only an advantage over an untrained individual against that druggie. I would take a 5% chance to survive over a 1% any day but anyone who thinks he's going to Bruce Lee some junkie with a butterfly knife is dilusional.

Disarming an opponent who's only threatening you and unwilling to actually go all out is actually possible with fairly reliable results. Stopping a dynamic knife attack from a crackhead? If you lose, you die in the street. If you win, you die in the ambulance.
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>>128798890
Sauce?
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>>128793521
>in real life if you had some guys show up to one of the busiest tourist areas in London and started stabbing people, you better believe they would get tackled.
Like the London Bridge?
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>>128794256
pretty much true but then there are certain techniques to knife fighting and if your opponent doesnt really know what he is doing and is waving his knife around like some jedi out of hollywood and you are using actual techniques you should come out on top with non fatal injuries.
t- pasty ass nerd who reads army training manuals
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>>128806261
>Only an advantage over an untrained individual against that druggie. I would take a 5% chance to survive over a 1% any day but anyone who thinks he's going to Bruce Lee some junkie with a butterfly knife is dilusional.
No absolutely I agree with you. I'm just being cynical because knife vs knife attacks don't work ideally. 100% try to disarm someone in any situation where your life is threatened and you can't run.
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>>128790318
it's a knife. you can just run, unless you're badly out of shape.
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>>128805658

You need to see these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kwyCs4gFgI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg14Kp1NgTE&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdU4HwLhXrM

It will 'change' you.....
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>>128805962
Knives are garbage as self defense because the only way to use one is to close distance between the attacker and you, which is the exact opposite of what you need to do in that situation.
If you ever find yourself needing to use a knife for self defense your best bet is to draw it and hope that the attacker flees after seeing it. No one wins in a knife fight. If he doesn't run after seeing it then you better. If you don't feel like you could outrun someone then carry a gun.
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>>128806277
They were wearing fake suicide vests to cause more panic.
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>>128806202
I'm getting a .22 six shot and who knows where it will go with me then. (:
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>>128806698
Yeah in US, but in the most civilised parts of the world you are not allowed to carry a gun as a civilian
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>>128806605

>>128806698
Good. Better not to die and break the law, than just die.
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>>128790318
>is there clothing I could wear everywhere I go that keeps me from being stabbed
lol dummy
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>>128806870
I'm not allowed fuck it
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>>128790318
Learn TaeKwondo and kick the guys ass.
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>>128790318
When you fall into the mental trap that the rule of law will protect you, you have already lost.
The fact is life has always been dangerous, and while modern society is probably safer than it has ever been, there is always the possibility that someone out there will try to do you harm. Granted, the media coverage of mass killings might terrorize you into this state of worry you are in, but to be honest you should be well trained and prepared to calmly dispatch any threat.
If Khalil, Jamal, Mohammed, Achmed, and, let's be honest, Johnny Smith who didn't fit in in high school can all find ways to easily do harm to others, you should be looking to do the same in self preservation. This means, if you won't give up the trappings of city life, or preventatively stop the colorful destruction of your hometown, you should be looking for the next best solution. Get a fucking firearm, familiarize yourself with its capabilities and limitations, train with it until application becomes mechanical, and come to terms with the potential consequences of what would happen should you be in possession of it.
Would you rather be helplessly mowed down by some attacker, or would you prefer to deal with the possible but unlikely social backlash for standing your ground in John Wick-esque glory?
The only solution for random acts of violence is precise violence of action.
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>>128806952
>implying
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>>128806870
>being an anti-gun cuck
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>>128794256
Muh karate ain't bullshit.

Also why not train with like throwing knives so you can just sink one in the dude's face or neck before he even gets close?

Oh and hey bongs, no idea if paintball guns are legal over there, but you can use glass jawbreaker rounds, less-lethal rubber rounds, and asploding pepper spray capsule rounds in those things-- throw a CO2 tank on there and you're like fucking Rambo in London.

Slingshots always work too, and they take any ammo (shards of your m8's bone for example)
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>>128807045
>Die getting stabbed as a normie
>Shoot a paki and spend my whole life in jail

Not sure whats better.
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>>128807226
If you're going for a paint gun, you'd be more effective with a high powered air rifle, and even then you're putting yourself at a huge risk.
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>>128806930
All my hours of soul calibur are about to pay off.
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>>128807045
Dammit Japan. Always making perfect sense.
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>>128807117
>being a pro-gun cuck

I wanna see how you get a gun in our country lul
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>>128794256
or you know, you could use anything with longer reach than a knife, like...a bannister pole, or one of those standing ash-trays
Or throw a ceramic plate

There are many ways to fight back against a knife, knives are not very effective weapons. But people are trained to run away, and most people have a flight rather than fight response anyway.

If you actually think a knifes a superweapon, you're daft af.
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>>128807484
The last 10,000 years of history before firearms shows there are ways to effectively fight off knives. But most people don't carry spears along.
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Why am I always the only one that remembers they have a dangerous weapon at all times:

B E L T
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You could throw vodka on them and touch them....

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>>128798094
>https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3738730/hero-millwall-fan-reveals-his-injuries-to-the-sun-after-he-stopped-london-bridge-jihadis-attacking-women-and-children-in-restaurant
There was a spanish man who fought back with a skateboard too, but I think he died :(
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>>128807484
>or you know, you could use anything with longer reach than a knife, like...a bannister pole, or one of those standing ash-trays

they have no cutting edge. if the guy with the knife gets too close you're fucked.

that said, it's better to just run if you're in decent shape, rather than get stabbed or have to explain to the police why you shot someone dead in the street, even if it was in self-defense.
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>>128807381
Also, sorry about that A bomb thing.
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>>128807226
Kenny fucking Powers!
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>>128807466
>I wanna see how you get a gun in our country lul
That's the point, although I think you can get a firearm legally, you just can't carry it.
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>>128797177

Pulverize glass and put it in the bottle instead of sand. Those fuckers will never forget you, even if they manage to kill you.
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>>128790318
>motherfucker from the year 1200
can be dealt with by man of action from 20th century
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>>128790318
simple solution. transport and weapon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZHhS1zs2DI
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>>128792011
holy fuck i once gave the nodd to my friends who then started fighting a bouncer while i guillotined another one

I knowlegde of the nodd spreads
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>>128807805
You don't need a cutting edge if you have weight.
I'm not saying it's ideal, but there are options to fight back.

People simply don't, for fear (in this case) of bombs or losing.

If you don't think you can kill a person with a blunt object, google this little object called a "mace" or a "billy club"
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>>128790318
you run, but if you cant run you grab the knife hand/arm and put your whole body into it, your goal is to be such a pain that they cant actually strike and hopefully make them fall and pivot that arm backwards

the one thing you do not do is surrender and beg or attempt to block, youll just get sliced, you clinch that arm/elbow like hell
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>>128798389

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice, — is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other."

John Stuart Mill had manlier thoughts than OP, and he was a fucking Britbong. OK, to be fair, those were different times; Mill was a Limey.
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>>1288087297
The advantage you want to gain in a knife fight is distance, which that would give you, but it's still not an effective weapon to actually use at a distance. Say, like... a spear.
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>>128808884
>>128808729
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>>128793521
>in real life people would tackle the stabbers
anon I have some bad news
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>>128807804
no he (((disappeared)))
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>not carrying your own weapon

what the fuck? I carry my Bushido blade everywhere I go, including work.
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Would a Bicycle chain be a good weapon?
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>>128809044
It might have held true if they didn't wear suicide vests. Still, I don't know why people don't charge. It's literally the second most effective thing you can do, after just shooting them. Arithmetic has no mercy in a knife fight.
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>>128795719
mail will block stabs to the chest and is okay for training strength, wont help with beheadings though
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>>128790318
Most probably an attack would happen in a city environment. More tha likely there would be resturants or dare I say it kebab shops. Proceed to one of said establishments and aquire the largest motherfukin bladed article there. Return to attacker an give him some well placed stabs of either knife or crack his skull open if you have only managed to obtain a meat cleaver. At all stages of this process you must scream "DEUS VULT" at the top of lungs.
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>>128795719
There is actually clothing that is stab proof though.
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>>128790318
Carry a tactical flashlight or wear a monkey fist as a belt. Hell even a heavy leather belt itself is an ok weapon against a knife. Brits are just little shits who are afraid to bleed a bit.
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>>128809394
gloves too for tackling knives with
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>American
>Scared of knife

nigger get a gun and carry.
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>>128790318
you block a stab with your arm and counter with a pen to his eye.
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>>128790318

If you're really worried you can get padded cloth armored clothing. It's not too conspicuous compared to every day wear if you get it tailor made, and it will do at least a bit better of a job at stopping or snagging a knife than normal clothing will. You might even be able to at least grab his arm if he has trouble pulling his knife back out, too.

This is me taking into account the fact that if you fight back at all and happen to be white you will get fucked by the long cock of the law. Otherwise I'd be advising you to get a black market pistol and destroy or hide the evidence afterward, somehow.
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>>128809484
Then when they corner you without a gun you realize why sharp blunt objects were effective for 10,000 years.
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>>128790318

best case you outnumber the guy and men charge and disable attacker.

worst case, you are alone defending, you treat like a dog attack: you extend an arm out (usually your weaker arm) and sacrifice that arm, as you take some damage, you try your best to hit the attacker or gauge his eyes.

you must always fight back.

movement is life.
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>>128809562

My mistake, actually, I thought OP was a brit.

Just get a gun and practice situational awareness in all aspects of life, OP. Never go walking with a sleeping mind.
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>>128808729

the problem is that a long blunt stick is going to be unwieldy. you may be able to hit them when they're a few feet away, but once they're too close you can't really strike them very hard. someone with a knife would sidestep or grab the pole, move in, and stab you.
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Can you actually not carry fixed knives or a pocket knife in Britain ? I always at least have a pocket knife for some form of protection and if I have a backpack or something with my I always carry a set of throwing knives.

Surprisingly the knives get quite accurate with practice and will go a couple inches into tree trunks. Not sure if it would kill, but enough to do some serious damage
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>>128809562
Why would you be fucked by law for killing an attacker?
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>>128799176
. I trained for a long time with people who could smash heads with their hands, throw people into walls like dolls. Knives, no we never came up with a good defence for that. And that was small training knives, these cunts had foot long blades, the guys who had a go are carved up. But the next time people will try, you have to get numbers and attack with everything you can get, smash them to pieces with long weapons and kill them with their own knives.
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>>128790318
fight or flight, the age old question. Both answers are acceptable, but only one answer is honorable.
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>>128809740
No, you can carry pretty much anything you want knife-wise that's not in London. There's a list of ""banned knives"" but everywhere surrounding me for example is mainly woodlands and farmland, nothing would happen to you if you carry.

But knife vs knife still isn't effective.
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>>128790318
The only way to make things right is by cleansing the earth of all subhumans from every race
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>>128809652
You overestimate how much weight it takes to make a swung object dangerous.
Have you ever held a baseball bat? Do you think a knife is a guaranteed win against a baseball bat?

There are ways to fight back. What's lacking are people willing to do it. This is tied to our complacency and safety-net civilization.

Fighting back isn't going to be ideal. But it's possible to fight back. The most sensible reason for no one having fought back this time is that they had fake suicide belts on.
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>>128799690
you really like trashcans
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>>128797913
RARE
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just grab both his arms and devastate his face with a super headbut.
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This guy has good advice. He's from Italy, so his advice is in context of the disarmed European populace. He's an ancient weapon geek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwXpXg78VQA
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>>128809076
It's tape.
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>>128809758

I just know you guys have really fucked self-defense laws in Britain and I was half asleep and thought OP was a Brit poster. Don't you guys use "reasonable force" law for self defense over there, anyway?
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>>128807484
Just a reminder of how ineffective a knife attack can be.

https://youtu.be/wXCjF2JVmNE
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>>128790318

try to buy pepper spray, it's none lethal and can dissuade
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>>128803631
across the street man
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>>128810006
watched his vids. although i doubt he's done so much as witness a fight in his life, lindybeige makes some good videos on moves in fighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bteyMFfeaYk
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>>128810158
you testing my sword skill faggot?
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>>128790318
You run towards someone with a gun (if you're not in their view) and run away from someone with a knife.
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>>128809927
bat has more reach, should win if you are a decent shot, useless if you have no punch
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>>128810203
Yeah, it's not self defence in particular that's fucked. It's the situation of firearms in self defence situations - for example, you can't own firearms with the reasoning of self defence, you need a reason (e.g, clay shooting, hunting, gun club, etc) & because you are legally required to have a gun locker, if you are in any situation where it wasn't plausible for a court to believe you accessed your weapon locker, it can poke holes in your argument (See Tony Martin case).

Self defence its self is ALRIGHT. There have only been 11 prosecutions since 1990 and one case was a guy who spotted a burglar breaking in, waited for him, beat him up, threw him in a pit and set him on fire. You could definitely kill a terrorist - and probably get awarded for it too.
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Carry a telescoping baton and mace if you can't carry a gun. Situations like a madman with a knife are about getting off his radar and attacking from an advantageous position. If he does head directly for you then use the mace and the baton to create distance.

Always be careful that an attacker doesn't have a trailer who is watching his back, make sure if you're unsure wait until you are sure.
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>>128810249
I would be a bit cautious with Lloyd, he's been known to wildly speculate (see his ridculous video on LMG vs MG42, or on scimitars). He has experience though.

Here's another thing I forgot to mention - these are popular in the US. These flashlights can blind people for seconds - more than long enough to do whatever you need.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dsporting&field-keywords=tactical+flashlight

Good luck Britbongs.
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>>128810636
Doesn't he literally larp? Lel. I'm not sure how much experience it gives him, but I've done a bit of anti-knife training , and he speaks a lot of sense.
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>>128809927
>Do you think a knife is a guaranteed win against a baseball bat?

winding back and swinging takes a moment. possibly long enough for them to move in. even if you're ready for a swing, they still have an arm free to shield themselves from your swing while stabbing you. they can react and move more quickly than you because you're holding a bat.
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>>128810249

The problem is....

Has he ever really been in a knife fight and has he actually ever killed anybody.... This guy really has done it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg5Gaza6OOw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kwyCs4gFgI
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>>128806277
At least five different guys fought back, some are dead
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>>128790318
learn CQC
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>>128804766
>go to light cigarette
>shoot yourself in the face
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>>128794256
Total shit.
Krav maga
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>>128790318
You are weak, you will die weak
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>>128790318
OP YOU CANCEROUS FAGGOT. ITS NOT THE FUCKING MUSLIMS YOU STUPID SHIT
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>What the fuck could I do?
Wonder why you didn't bought a gun beforehand.
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>>128810948
Lel nice I'll check out his vids. Lindy's only qualifications are LARPing and making entertaining vids. He's not devoid of knowledge on the situation though I doubt you'd ever see him pull off a disarming move.
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>>128811178
literally says
>if unarmed
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>>128810771
You have really never held a physical object in your life, have you? I broke another student in my class's jaw with a textbook in 8th grade (he was bullying me, we both got expelled for it)

It does not take "a moment" to wind back for a swing. it takes less than a second. And I'm not talking about fighting off the attacker as the first person attacked, I'm talking about what you can do as a bystander when you see someone else being attacked.
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We need cars we don't need brown folk
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>>128811247
>if unarmed
The answer is: don't go outside without a gun. Better yet, bring two guns.
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>>128810761
Yeah he's probably not the best source I would think LARPing gives you BAD experience).

I have one major sore point with him - he literally didn't know the difference between a MG-34 and MG-42, and he acted as if everyone who criticized him was just a "hater." Thunderfoot level meltdown, desu.

And as you say, I wonder if LARPing leads you to bad conclusions at times.
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>>128811289
I think I would take a baseball bat over a knife (depending on the opponent) simply because you can gain a little distance. That's it. The only advantage I can think it could possibly give you in a situation against a knife and then still, you're putting yourself at a huge risk.
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>>128811289
>when you see someone else being attacked.

well, that's different since they're distracted.
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>>128792011

> I'd like to carry a weapon.

You'll find that unless you keep in deepest Africa nobody walks around with a gun or a sword at all times. They only attack targets, like concerts, where people won't be armed.
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>>128811195

Also see these...

>>128806599

Then you won't fear a stupid fuck with a knife anymore...
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>>128809044
They did, Google can help you
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>>128811449
That Benelli M4 is the only gun worth shit for self defence in the UK with an FAC. That or a cuck mossberg with 2 in the chamber.
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>>128810235
Yes, Whiskey-rat, I've seen Green Room too. I'm not saying you have no chance of getting hurt, I am dispelling this bullshit myth that edged weapons are inherently supreme victors.

You can fight back. I'm not saying YOU individually should or could, but a big difference between UK and US responses to shootings and stabbings is teaching people to fight back if cornered vs "run, hide, tell"

It's a psychological wall more than it is the dominance of edged weapons. People frighten easily.
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>>128794256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0jwpwzGpGQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fjMpn7JCJ0&t=555s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo

Unless you are Bruce Lee you cant do shit. The only thing I can think of is the simple Wing Chun leg kick, but your going to get your ass stabbed right after.
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>>128811289
>>128810771

i once cracked a kid's head open with a tiny tap of a textbook because the back of his head slammed against a wall corner

anything can happen at any time, so if somebody attacks you at any time for any reason you should be able to shoot them to death because it could have easily been you dying
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>>128804766
Hmmm carry bottle of zippo fluid and torch the fucker
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get stabbed faggot
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>>128811699
Yes truly, unless you happen to be equipped with a shield and spear, its overwhelming numbers vs 1 guy with a knife or running.
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>>128811773
It won't take somebody down quick enough. They'll feel the heat, lunge forward - you're dead. If that's all you have planned, you will die. Guess it'd slow him down atleast. Maybe kick in between the legs and fucking leg it after that.
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>>128794294
+1 to Intelligence
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>>128810489
>threw him in a pit and set him on fire

seems pretty reasonable desu senpai
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>>128810948
Why are you trying to duel people on an even basis? Get a high powered torch and blind the fucker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVRkAEq5Brs
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>>128790318
>what do when knives attack
In all seriousness, I held off a knife wielding loon with my belt, and the heavy brass belt buckle on the end of it. Works good, keeps enemy beyond stab range, if they get to close a good swing will break hand bones, or knot their skull. Try it, it actually works, you just unbuckle rip out belt, wrap tongue end around hand one time, and start swinging. This is battle tested, totally legal carry weapon, and will not be questioned in a self defense event.
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>>128797058
>>128797192
*tips fedora
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>>128811289
>I broke another student in my class's jaw with a textbook in 8th grade
>>128811749
>i once cracked a kid's head open with a tiny tap of a textbook because the back of his head slammed against a wall corner

maybe you two should have a drink together.

>>128811749
>anything can happen at any time, so if somebody attacks you at any time for any reason you should be able to shoot them to death because it could have easily been you dying

i'm just being an armchair ninja. obviously having a gun is ideal.
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It's not too bad unless it's a big, recently sharpened kitchen knife. Happened to me before (via shitty blunt pic related), was only a few scars nothing punctured. Protect your core/ribcage/neck, dont raise your arms, if you do use your coat/hoody wrapped around your forearms to create a buffer.
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>>128805575
I want to see autists wearing homemade chain mail soon
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>>128812212
Lel. If things don't shape up, people are going to be walking around London and Paris in lorica segmentata.
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probably be something near by to beat him to death with. like a table.
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>>128811969
>Why are you trying to duel people on an even basis? Get a high powered torch and blind the fucker.

We are trained to shoot the people with bright flashlights first.... Sort of like shooting the fucks with machine guns first. They last about 4 seconds...

But in your euro case the rules might be very difference and it might go well.
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>>128806270
french colonial empire
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>>128811640
Fucking thing is badass. Unfortunately I moved to the people's city of NYC, so I had to leave mine in VA.

I really feel bad for you all, in the Southern US you can walk down the street and know you can fuck up anyone who fucks with you or your girl. Not the case here. Feels bad man.
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>>128790318
Ok anon, where did he touch you?
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>>128798841
>cudve been carrying a gun
too bad i live in nyc and its literally impossible to carry one.
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>>128812386
Dont live in cuckville
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>>128812294
maybe muslims aren't so bad after all
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>>128812453
Illegally.
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>>128790318
OP. I mean this from the bottom of my heart. There are a thousand things you can do. Keep something between you and the knife. Chair, bottle, book, anything. The thing you need isn't an item. Its YOU. Your ancestors killed wild animals with sharp sticks. Do them proud. If you die beating an animal to death with whatever is handy, so be it. If you want to be victorious, you must discard your own self preservation. They did it, why can't you? Worst case you are hailed as a hero and a nation attends your funeral. Best case you are hailed as a hero, and you don't die. More people need to have this mindset. For fuck sake grow a pair. Let death flow through you and make these fucks afraid like they tried to do to everyone else. What's stopping you? You are.
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>>128790318
Are you living in a non-cucked state? Are you over 21? Take a gun safety class, a defensive shooting class, get your CCL, buy a pistol, and practice with it. If you don't want to do that, work on your situational awareness and mindset, and take some self defense classes. It's less about learning how to kick ass than it is about cultivating discipline and confidence. The more, and the more intensely you train, the less likely you are to freak if/when shit happens. The ability to maintain composure is what's going to save your ass above all else. Also, you don't have to live in perpetual paranoia, but do be prepared for the harsh realities of life, and ignore anyone cuck who tries to shame you for being "scared". They act like being suicidally naive is brave. It's not.

As far as what to do if a madman with a knife starts going off: find a hand-to-hand weapon with a greater range. If they have a small knife, find a hardwood/metal pole type object, use your range, wait for them to slash/thrust, and try to break their fucking wrist with it. Don't go for a headstrike because that will bring you too close to their range. You want to be just close enough to hit their hand/forearm at full extension. If they have a machete, find a staff/pike style weapon and do the same. If they have a gun, get the fuck away unless you're a crazy fucker who's gonna count shots and try to close the distance during a reload, but make sure you assess the skill of the aggressor before you go rushing in or you might get embarrassed.
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>>128812519
Haven't met enough of them to know and I don't want to.
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What about acting like a sudden retard as self defense. Attacker be like... WTF?!!! and move on.
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>>128792011
You are all literally faggots.
FUCK the UK.
You should all die.
How did things get so bad that you cannot even defend your own life.
Seriously, join a gun rights group, fight to take your freedom back
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>>128812332
Yeah I'm giving advice for our Euro friends mostly. We in the US pretty much already have a game plan and have already discussed this shit to death.
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>>128811821
Maybe a leather jacket would work?
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>>128812630
The Tottenham Outrage in 1908, both world wars, the Dunblane Massacre, Pistols Act 1903, 1920 Firearms Act, 1937 Firearms Act, 1968 Firearms Act, and the 1997 Firearms Amendment Acts.
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>>128812615
They're not going to care if they're pumped on adrenaline. You might even seem like an easier target. They'll stab you and move on.
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>>128792011
>in doors
God damn it, dad. Indoors. Also, lose the superfluous "u". You're not French.
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>>128812308
our just throw everything not tied down at him, and run away.
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>>128790318
Use your stand to stop time and then throw knives at them. Watch their useless attempts to dodge.
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>>128812773
Attackers were using butcher knives in the most recent attack. I doubt it will help much.

If you're thinking of leather armor - that didn't really exist, but when it did, it was boiled leather. Still not great against stabs.
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>>128812988
Run away or don't do anything if it won't delay him.
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Dear Europe,
Remove kebab before kebab removes you.
Love, those that actually care about their identity.
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>>128812453
>too bad i live in nyc and its literally impossible to carry one

Fortunately NYC has 35,000 police....

Oh, WAIT....
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For one - when you have more then yourself in the fight odds significantly side against the attacker, use a chair and its legs jam it around his limbs, [shoulder and under arms] use unfair force. Other party can apply lethal measures while he's occupied. There's a thing they taught in taught GI's in the American military when sneaking up behind someone, yanking their ankles tripping them and fatal blow with knife [I'm sure you can improvise - bounce his head off concrete like you're desperately trying to open a coconut, large rocks, hammers pipe wrench] You'd have to train on this with a willing partner something soft they can land on. A broom stick or mop when broken can provide a sharp object and if you plunge it into someone's eye with as much force as possible trying to get it to come out the other side.

People are not trained, and doesn't require a lot of training, modern man is breed from couches and safety, just a little introduction into reality makes a man not so easy to kill.

Sprinting is a great exercise. The health benifits are crazy, fast muscle twitch improvment, hormone rejuvination [your testosterone will go back to prime puberty years more hair aggressive, stronger etc etc etc and when you have that skill you can run very far very fast, when put up against someone who doesn't regularly train like that you have a serious advantage.

>>128793521
Maybe where you are but this is cuck Europe were talking about where even talking about muslims and a perceivable disparaging way they'll put you in a cage.
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>>128800788
> rioting by throwing pork at sand monkeys
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Grab fire extinguisher
Shoot in target's eyes
Hit target on the head with extinguisher
Piss on corpse
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>>128813058
>Attackers were using butcher knives in the most recent attack

Maybe the UK could ban knives...

Oh, wait....

I guess the muslim sand niggers did not obey the UK's fucked over government....
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>>128813365
1. grab fire extinguisher
2. shoot in targets eyes
3. target closes eyes
4. target lunges forward
5. ???
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>>128813365
You'll be dead before you get it off the wall. Stop watching movies.
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>>128811522
...it was 3 terrorists and how many terrorized? I would estimate at least a thousand. You think they had their eyes on everyone?

It's not "different", you're just thinking about it in a very selfish and one dimensional way. You only seem to be considering that fighting back is a valid thing to do if you're already the victim.

That's the issue. It's a mental one.

>>128811489
A baseball bat can knock someone unconscious faster than a knife can. Saying this doesn't mean you're safe, of course. But the baseball bat is a very formidable weapon, and so is any metal object that you can pick up. So is a chair leg. So is a bannister pole like the one that was behind one of the dead attackers in that photo.
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>>128812015
>belt
Fuck yeah.
This guy is my man. Just like I said.

When I'm in a sketchy situation the first thing I do is make sure I have a belt. Then I prep myself mentally for whipping it off.
If shit cools down, walk away.
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>>128790318
fuck people who wear suede shoes, so ugly
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>>128809484
>nigger get a gun and carry.
He said high traffic tourist areas. Last I checked, NY and Cali aren't very gun friendly.
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>>128813196
My friend, it is as funny to hear, as it was to do.
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>>128804766
that's a .22 round. You're not going to kill an attacker with one bullet from that. I'd rather have a baseball bat than this.

That's some larper shit.
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>>128813447
The law wasn't for sandniggers. It was for niggers. Firearm deaths are at an all time low but homicides at an all time high. Go figure.
>>128813505
I know it's a good weapon, but simply against a knife, I don't think its practical. You NEED an attack to delay somebody with, to gain distance with/or protect yourself, and a baseball bat can do that, just not very practically. Saying that, it's definitely up there as an accessible "weapon", my spear fantasies don't have much practicality, though - they are - the ultimate knife deflectors as history shows.
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>>128801366
>>128801516
I wanna see
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>>128813505

i was speaking generally, and not in the specific scenario where you are a bystander to a knife-wielding terror squad.

even in that case, it isn't human nature to pick losing battles. you're more likely to survive by running, and that has nothing to do with being a modern couch-bred human.
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>>128813758
A .22 bullet is the type of delay you need in a knife fight to be honest.
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>>128813768
>ban guns
>firearm deaths go down
Well no shit. People don't understand how that see-saw effect works.
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Leave New York City. Go be a real American somewhere. Once you walk around with a handgun everywhere, there is no fear.

If they're too close to draw or you decided to stay in jew cuck city you'll have to grab their wrist and arm as you side step, put them in an arm bar, take them to the ground.
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>>128813541
>>128812015

This is not going to work against a group of Muslims who have psyched themselves up and are feeding off each others' testosterone.
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>>128813898
It's a misunderstanding of race more than anything. They're as low as ever in anywhere white, so basically the entire country bar some areas of the south.
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>>128813749
bless you rare anon. keep them in check.
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>>128812332
>We are trained to shoot the people with bright flashlights first

But the people with the bright flashlights are trained not to hold them in front of themselves. And we've been trained to shoot the muzzle flashes.
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>>128794256
This kinda, I like training in the most realistic ways possible with guns, hand to hand but unarmed against a knife is one of the hardest things possible, you have to control that weapon in its chaotic movement [assume this just going nuts and doesn't want you to even see the blade] and manipulate it in a way that disarms it from their hand. Your going to probably get sticked but its repetitively getting stabbed that kills [unless its a lucky shot and long enough blade that hits a critical organ] sometimes I imagine if the circumstances are right [the blade isn't that big] let em stick you and thats when you catch it.

In the animal kingdom killers train from the angle of play, dogs, cats, birds- they're safe non lethal circumstances but treat it as real, exiting, If people just relaxed and had fun but was serious get a friend to get a fake knife try and stick you fight fight wrestle fall to the ground run, tackle etc etc etc.
>>128795482
I like that, you'd have to test it on yourself, does it obscure vision? does it stick how hard is it to remove it and how long does it take.

>>128796346
If the umbrella's secure when closed and wrapped up, you can slide a bunch of heavy wrenches under the vinyl you got a potentially legal bludgeon.
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>>128813886
a .22 doesn't delay shit for someone hyped up on adrenaline, meth, or both unless you're very lucky.

a .22 *CAN* kill in one shot if you get it through their eye and into their brain just right. You won't. That's my point. That's a terrible self defense weapon, its only purpose is concealment and autism.

I've shot myself in the foot with a .22LR before. It hurt, but it wasn't something that would stop an attacker.
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>>128813758
>Thinking any pistol round can reliably put down an attacker with one shot
>inb4 muh .45
No, it can't. Why do you think cops always empty their magazines into suspects?
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>>128814353
It's better than the other suggestions of delay. Eg, a fire extinguisher, and a belt.
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>>128798094
This deserves it's own post. Based soccer hooligan.
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>>128814365
When did I ever fucking say that you stupid nigger-loving autistic faggot? Not once.

The reason cops empty their magazine (they actually don't) is because they're trained to shoot pressure points to demobilize instead of to shoot to kill, by the way. One shot to the head or heart absolutely can put someone down.

The amount of stupid pussyfoots in this thread is blowing my mind. I'm a transsexual and I got more balls than some of you.
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>>128813478
>3. target closes eyes
>4. target lunges forward

But with eyes closed, which way is forward? And what is there when they lunge?
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Recently in CA, USA a fuck with a knife was stopped instantly with a gun.
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>>128814434
>a .22 is better at knocking someone unconcious than a heavy metal object or a swung belt buckle
You have never fired a gun before have you? a .22 is practically a pellet gun.
You might be less likely to get hit by them, since you can attack from further away, but you aren't going to stop shit. Especially with a single round weapon that tiny, which won't even likely hit the target anyway. You're more likely to shoot one of the thousands of bystanders than the attacker.

What, do you think you're playing with cheat codes and precision aim turned on?
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The Linder attacker are autistic . 3 of them and they only killed 7, Jesus Christ. A guy in France didn't have a gun or explosives but was able to murder 87 people with a big truck. They should have been able to kill a lot more people if they would have thought a well out plan
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>>128814962
Very true.

.22s are guns for little girls to learn to shoot with...

Useless for defense.
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