>Try to debate Ben Shapiro >Lose Every single time. What

Kike manipulation

>>128767107
He's a Jew that uses cunning instead of logic.

>>128767107
His voice annoys his opponent until defeat. Fuck, his voice is so annoying.

>>128767107
He's smart ?!

/pol/ is retarded for hating him. He's one of if not the best conservative speakers left.

Stop shilling for him. Sage

>>128767662
Jews are cousin fuckers with Schizophrenia.

>>128767107
Harvard Law jew magic

>>128767662
We have plenty of smart people without you. You have nothing without us. I pray that one day fellow whites will realize the generosity and empathy within their head is not shared by the reptilian Semites.

>>128767971
That would be muslims... And cousin fuckers would be too dumb to control the world. Damn goy.

>>128767107

Der Jude ist mit ihm stark.

But for Real, Shapiro is the shit. He basically proves that everyone on this board are faggots.

>>128768118
Your wish will be granted. Whites are converting to islam at a record pace. Soon enough, whites will be so muslims they will find the strength to come at us again.

>>128767107
It's simple. The higher the Judeo-Christian morale in the man, the higher his intelligence.
This applies to anyone. Not just people who claim to be Jewish or Christian.

>>128767107
"Stereotypical" badger.

>>128768507
See but they kind of rejected the Jewish Messiah...

>>128767107

Jews are the most gifted orators known to man

>>128768673
Just because you're Jewish doesn't mean you have Judeo-Christian morale.

>>128767662
Blaming yourself for problems is a redflag for mental illness

Being a manlet Grants you intellectual wizardry.

>>128768841
Yeah of course, but you see, Judaism isn't really complete without the Redemption of Christ...

>>128769039
Shapiro is tall, he looks short against tall people tho.

here's ben when he was 12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK8mbA083hE
what did you all do when you were 12?

>>128767107
Supercomputer hidden in the kippah

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>>128767662
>We have no one to blame our few problems on
Jews have a history of blaming all their problems on other people.

Jews believe they are constantly victims. So they manipulate the Collective Unconscious to be on their side, and everyone grants them permission to do so.

>>128767107
Sweden has the highest % of nobel prizes recipients per capita in europe (31 per 10 million)

Jews have 197 nobel laureate. They are 7x smarter than the smartest europeans statistically.

This should explain jews.

I could beat him in a debate.

>>128767930
He's exactly what is wrong with modern politics and government. A dual nat that owes allegiance to a foreign government is dictating our issues and problems for our entertainment.
It's sickening. Fuck you cuck.

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>>128767107

>>128767107

consistent, informed, speaks fast, knows many different debate tactics. it's really that simple.

>>128768409
We don't need Islam for that. But historically speaking, why do you consistently fuck us over? How do you rationalize it all?

>>128769171
Not complete, but high up there if you accept the main moralities of the Bible.

>>128767107
Bens brilliant politically because he uses statistics and research to justify his platform and memorizes research to just rapid fire at opponents who disagree. He picks and chooses his battles however, he doesn't much debate on Israel and its practices because deep down he knows several of them are insanely difficult to justify and is knowledgeable on the Jewish history of leftism.

He's red pilled to a degree and knows commie kikes are an immediate threat to Jewish nationalism but at the same time can't be critical of Israel.
He's essentially just a well researched conservative but you could stab at his economic policy or Israel, about it.

>>128767107
Hes a dishonest hypocrite whos just talking bullshit when hes wrong or when he refuses to tell the truth and starts screeching like a jew and just insists hes right after the show or debate with a "durr i was right BTFO" video where he then argues against strawman and no real opponent
or in short a Jew.

>>128769823
eh no, most of that was created by the Demiurge Yahweh as part of his mission to be a Minion of Satan. I'm certainly not a Jehovah's witness. But Jehovah is the true God the Father. All this shit about homophobia and cutting off your right hand if it sinned is just Yahweh at work. And worship of Yahweh IS worship of Satan. Don't get confused. God the Father is all about Love. Try to be courageous.

>>128767107
I dont have any type of respect for someone that promotes the use of falacies.
He plays dirty and so the dumb people think he wins.

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He's pretty rational guy, too bad he worships Satan though...

>>128770090
>or in short a Jew.
>in short
>short
nice

>>128770090
the rest is just common sense everyone redpilled could pull of unless he a total autist, but he cant get singled out and can freely talk without being called hitler and nazi every second sentence by other whites and dealing with muh white privilege and muh crusades or muh redneck phrases because he got the kike card

>okay s-so so so so you are saying this but actually think that? hah it just doesn't make any sense. t-the the the constitution forbids that so i'm not sure what you are talking off, sorry
*applause and "praise kek" can be heard from the crowd*

>The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day

>>128770895

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSoJqdPi4Iw

Same thing with Milo, the people he's against are general idiots so anyone with common sense and does a mild bit of research can rinse them

He has strong logic skills but his strong allegiance to Israel and anything Israel related overshadows this.

Ben can give perfectly rational arguments then if someone mentions a hint of anything to do with Israel then it's clear what his real motive is.

>>128769474
You would probably agree with him on like 85% of all issues. But just because he doesn't want Israel burned to the ground by Mudslimes, he's an unforgivable kike? Fucking kill yourself. We should be glad to have him on our side.

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>>128767107
I saved this just to post it on the daily shapiro cock sucking thread

>>128769474
THIS.

Shapiro is a 5th column. On par with Irving Kristol. Ben actively strives to be such a man as Irving Kristol. He's that Israel first, nationalism for me, globalism for thee """conservative""" voice of this generation. Anyone who takes him or his regurgitated arguments seriously is an inadvertent shill against western nationalism.

>>128767107
>Debating people with a clear losing and winning side and choosing to debate for the better side.
After that it only takes a voice to win

>>128767107
It's cute how /pol/ dislikes him because he's pro Israel. I'll always laugh at /pol/ for being so stupidly single minded. This guy is the smartest YouTuber on our side. He can annihilate anyone on any political or social issue in a debate.

>>128772778
This made me laugh more than it should have. Based Serb poster thank you.

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>Agree with most of what he says
>But he's jewish so fuck him

>>128776646
>on our side

Protip: he isn't.

>>128767107
He debates only libtards who have no concept of logic, only emotion. If he ever debated a serious opponent, it would be much more evenly matched.

>>128777230
On almost everything but being anti Israel, he is.

>>128767107
I bet he would support doctor assisted suicide

>if it's not Le Free Market its socialist liberal propaganda

Nuff said, his heart is in judea

>>128776971
For most political maneuvers, this would have some truth to it. But Shapiro is quite literally opposed to western sovereignty. How can you support this? He's just a mildly competent neocon in the wrong generation.

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>>128777707
Sounds like someone could go for a helicopter ride.
>>128777763
>But Shapiro is quite literally opposed to western sovereignty

Source?

Also even if that's true, no one is perfect, you're never going to find someone who agrees with you 100% of the time, don't throw someone under the bus who is mostly right just because they're wrong on a few things.

>>128767107
Jew Madness.

He is debating retards from a position of absolute truth and is really knowledgable of that which he is talking about and supports it all with statistics and sources for them.

He never goes into debates without doing a lot of research

>>128767930
>and MILO!
>don't forget Ann Coulter!

A good day, is the day the daily caller goes bankrupt and no right wing think tanks want this shell of a man to bitch about liberals

>Former YAF member

>>128767107
>Try to debate Ben Shapiro

GTFO this board, Ben!

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>>128770074
>he doesn't much debate on Israel and its practices

>>128778503
When he gave a speech at this conference he said Milo called him a cuck and sending a photo of his baby as a black child holy kek

>>128777682
I'm not even anti Israel. But Shapiro is not our guy. He debates mostly idiots, and caves on every critical issue to our cause. Most notably it's his capacity to bargain in a rhetorical sense. I remember distinctly from that Dave Rubin interview he said something like "Of course racists are out there, and we should attack them and ruin their careers". I wish that I could find that exact quote just so you would know that I'm not mincing words and how much of a 5th column he is, deliberately or inadvertently.

Who would determine who is racist under these social rules? He only clings to that ideological point about racism because he's not full fash and somewhat sane on racial issues, as are most American conservatives. He thinks this position is valid, because he spends his time arguing (mostly against morons) why his positions aren't racist. But look at the social power he would give to the left if permitted, and how much he would compromise. He would destroy our voice and all the strides western nationalism/identitarianism have made these past years if he had any actual ideology sway over the masses. Only a doomed movement would choose him as part of their ideological vanguard.

He can go fuck himself.

>>128767107
Hey Ben, are you visiting the UK right now? Watch out for knives and trucks while you're there, okay? Those things can be very unpredictable.

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>>128767107
FPBPLP >>128767262

Gas yourself little Benji

>>128767930
He's a NeverTrumper. He's good on most things but wrong on Trump.

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>>128778704
>and caves on every critical issue to our cause.
really makes you think, huh?

Becuase kikes are not humans. They are demons from hell!

>>128778704
Remember that on Dailywire he often calls things anti-semitic when they aren't. He's trying to play the victim narrative of Jew and also the victim narrative of constitutional conservative.

debating idiots

Shapiro supporters are Jewish, closeted homosexuals, whiny conservative trust fund kids, and old people who think he resonates with the youth.

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>>128778817
Not really, although I disagree with his stance that lesser evil voting isn't the right way to go, if you actually listen to his podcast he only goes after Trump when he messes up (Like with Healthcare).

>>128778704
>Who would determine who is racist under these social rules?

There's a definition for racism, just because people on the left ignore it/create their own doesn't mean everyone would. Seems like you're creating some hyperbolic scenario just to get mad at him.

>>128779117
Like what?
Hell I've seen him defend people who are called anti-semtic like Steve Bannon and explain that they're not.

Cause he's smart af. I basicially agree with him on most of his views except when it comes to Trump and Israel.

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>>128767107
the schwartz

ever watch him? he waves his hands like crazy when debating, he's not even trying to hide it.

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>>128779184
Friendly based Schlomo Shekelberg, truly our greatest of allies.

Let me extol upon you the virtues of civic nationalism, friend.

Also, are you familiar with the Muslim invasion?

>>128777962
Sure. Here's an article he wrote for the neocon wipe NRO: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444687/donald-trump-nationalism-should-worry-conservatives

He's been shilling against Trump for over a year now, especially when he makes a move that will actually benefit Americans or western sovereignty. This is because Shapiro is a neocon, laying in wait for the time to show his actual beliefs. His ideology isn't totally divorced from reality, but designed to benefit a specific group of people (who aren't Americans or westerners in general).

The neocons hijacked and helped to destroy American traditionalism. That is what Irving Kristol and all of those cunts (especially his son, Bill Kristol) are still trying to do. They are there to derail us, anytime victory is possible. That's why they oppose us constantly every time it matters, like Trump's campaign, which Shapiro and Kristol both opposed as fiercely as they could.

Shapiro is useful when he's debating some simpleton at a college somewhere, he is not any sort of leader for us and never should be. If this is a phase of reformation or anything close to that, the wise would keep Shapiro and his muh values LARPing far, far away from ideological vanguard status.

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>>128779317
>Like what?
Anyone who doesn't suck Israel's dick. Bannon is pro-Israel so he passes the anti-semitism test.

>>128767107
>stays on point

Which means

>doesn't defend himself on counter attacks
>won't be distracted
>dismantles faulty logic and bait attacks
>doesn't resort to emotional appeal

The typical normie believes themselves to be logical and intelligent, and will try to engage on topics because they feel educated.

It's simple to beat a lefty, honestly.

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>>128767107
This

>>128767107
he brings facts
you can't refute facts

its funny watching BLM supporters squirm when he brings out black on black crime statistics

>>128767662
Jews are parasites upon white societies.

Only good thing about Shapiro is that he's a great way to redpill people on the JQ. He's such an obvious example of a subversive Jew who pretends to be our greatest ally but really lets his true feelings show when anything (((anti-Semitic))) or relating to Israel is brought up. He is the quintessential kike - he will turn on you when it benefits his people. Every. Single. Time.

>>128767107
He actually uses arguments and statistics which are peer reviewed and not """statistics""" from Breitbart

You should learn and adapt to the Jew you rural retards

>>128779317
There is no hyperbole to anything I've said, this is a contemporary facet of political realism.

>just because people on the left ignore it/create their own doesn't mean everyone would

You would have to be one gullible mother fucker to think that an issue such as racism would be approached with any degree of reason or impartiality in current year. More so, it is a word which was literally invented by Marxists in an effort to derail western moral authority. I will not even accept the meaningless authority of modern academia or their fluid, ever changing sociological suppositions (which are often guided by hyperbole anyway)... Any nationalist or traditionalist who would is ideologically broken from the start. But honestly, trying to rationalize what Shapiro said in that interview as reasonable is debased desu. That was a foolish thing for him to say.

>>128769417
>Jew wins Jew prizes

Who woulda thunk it?

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>>128769312
We all know the drums are vastly superior to the violin

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>>128767662
>jews never blame the goyim for anything
O I am laffin

>>128767930
He's a smarmy shit. Most of his arguments are just reductionist nonsense that usually don't address questions of the moderator or points of the opponent

He's very intelligent, but there's a big difference between winning debates and being correct. This is especially apparent in his books

Also don't forget how he quit Breitbort over the tits whose arm was assaulted

>>128767107
Ben takes Jewing to whole new level. The goy don't even know they are being jewed.

>>128767107
Hobbits have more resistance to using the One Ring of Power.

>>128767107
Fuck this kike faggot "muuuuhhh michelle fields will take me out of the friendzone if I shill for her"

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>>128767107
Jewish trickery.

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>>128769312
some maccabe mom paid for hours of private lessons and beat the kid if he did not practice. big whoop

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>>128767107
Hi I'm Ben Shapiro and this is my Jew shop. I work here with my dad John McCain, and my son big Not. Everything here is anti Trump and neocon bullshit. One thing I've learned after 21 years you never know who is going to impregnate my wife.

>>128783937
Big Nog*

>>128769572
This - he picks a position and stays with it. Then reaffirms it on a daily basis.

>>128767262
>>128767276
>>128768117
>>128769413
>>128778085
>>128783552
Say what you want about Ben but he's definitely not a scheming, dishonest Jew. He openly expresses his beliefs and surrounds himself with people who are never going to see eye to eye with him.

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>>128778521
It's true.
His defense against Boycotting Israel is saying that they aren't boycotting the rest of the middle east which has worse practices, as well as saying that the boycotts are Anti-semitic.
That's not very strong as an argument

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>>128784316
He literally played along with Michelle Fields' baseless scheme against Trump, Lewandowski and Breitbart. He is openly exploiting western nationalist social elements.

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Has anyone debated him on Israel/Palestine?

This reply essay was to Sam Harris but... they are more or less the same kind of hypocrite jew frauds

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/31/why-i-criticize-israel/

>>128786123


>http://counterpunch org/2014/07/31/why-i-criticize-israel
https://archive.is/TD6hj

He's no friend of /pol/ but if you watch his Q&As and debates, he does have some good points that can be used when debating liberal normies.

>>128767107
hes a sharp motherfucker no matter how butthurt it makes /pol/

>>128784316
>jew
>not scheming
>not dishonest

He doesn't debate anyone with a chance of matching him - most of his vids are of him "btfoing" retarded college students who use typical libshit arguments that he is always prepared for. His real weakness is his position on Israel since he is a hardcore zionist, but he never discusses that outside of his jewish neo-con echo chamber of followers on twitter. It doesn't help that most people who bash him on Israel actually help him by acting like stormweenies

>>128767107

Ass Pennies.

There is a terror attack at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris right now.

>>128767107
Subtle leaps in logic

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>>128786272
debating SJWs doesnt make one smart. its the lowest hanging fruit there is.

From what I've seen, he's not particularly good. He just picks weak opponents.

He's not a majestic old lion fighting younger lions and winning. He's a hyena fighting tied-up rabbits.

>>128767107

>>Try to debate Ben Shapiro
>Lose

>Every single time. What is the secret of his power?

hasnt Vox Day challenged shapiro to debate and little ben chickened out?

>>128767107
Reminder that that faggot Milo agreed to debate Ben and then backed out like a punk.

>>128791182
>debating SJWs doesnt make one smart. its the lowest hanging fruit there is.
This.

He's not the first wannabe celebrity to carefully choose his debate opponents so he's never seen losing.

>>128786272

>hes a sharp motherfucker no matter how butthurt it makes /pol/

lol, what are you, some kind of a jew bootlicker?

>>128767107
Jewish Denial

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>>128768117
Actually lold on the train.

I like Ben, he's not a hook nose Jew, I dunno how it works but he's our guy on literally every issue. I hate the 'based black man or based gay man' meme that nu pol spews but for this Jew I make an exception

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>>128792865
Utterly mind cucked desu. Brainlet. Sad. Many such cases!

>>128776971
It's called "having a spine" , dumb burger.

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>>128767107
He breaks out stats and breaks down problems and gets to the root which typically involves government controlling shit which he is completely against. Not to the extent he'd start throwing commies out of helicopters but he's always going to rail against anything that involves the government getting involved in ANYTHING. Then he doubles down with said stats proving on what you want does not/cannot work. Whatever you press him with you've got to have solid proof to the contrary. No one ever has that so they get owned like a nigger in Alabama in 1855.


He's got a rat face but he's one of the few people critical of Trump that tries to actually give him a legit shot. He's probably one of the most fair guys on the administration out there.

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>>128767107
smarty pants joo

>>128767107
He doesn't care about your feelings senpai