life is meaningless, there is no point to being "productive.

>>128756411
K keep me posted

>>128756411
Yore probably a lazy faggot. Usually neets staying at home have such thoughts.

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Then you have only one option
KYS

Agreed, but it's not life being meaningless that's keeping me from accomplishments and satisfaction, it's the fact that nothing interests me and that I don't value anything enough to put effort into a cause.

work dignify the man

>>128756411
>life is meaningless
No. we are the only living things for light years around us as far as we know. How is life meaningless?

>there is no point to being productive
Yeah there is if you need money to survive. You wouldn't know that because you live in a gibs me dat country, probably in your mother's basement too.

>there is literally no reason to do anything other than provide yourself with vapid entertainment until you are eventually dead
Entertainment doesn't have to be vapid. Things like art, music, writing and traveling can keep you busy too and simulate your curiosity. Then there's having kids to keep you busy. Eurocucks always think kids are the worst thing ever because they have to take time off from their 6 month vacations, but honestly kids are the best thing ever--when they are yours of course.

Kys nihilist faggot.

>>128756411

Its all just a computer simulation anyway senpai. The real existence is waiting for you once you end this little game we have going here.

>>128756411
U so dark U so edge.

>>128757335

Same here, I would just like to watch the world evolve and see how it looks like in the future with all the AI technology we will invent to make humans obsolete. Will be interesting.

>>128756411
You are right, there is no point in being "productive", you only gain money that you spend on vapid entertainment or whatever money can buy.
But if you don't like living life, why don't you just kill yourself? Jump from something and it's over in 2 seconds. one, two, dead.
But you are here, you posted this. You must get some enjoyment out of life, so what the fuck are you complaining about?

>>128757335
This is called depression dear red sausage eating, bear piss drinking eskimo.
You must fight it, or let it consume you. I did, for many years. It's still there but you just learn to ignore it. You just do what you gotta do.

>>128756411
Woag there kid cool it with the nihilism

>>128756551
First post best post

>>128756411
Or how about you try taking resonsibility for something at least once. Start a family, or at least get a dog, do some gardening, get a fucking job...anything. Maybe your life won't feel so meaningless anymore you dumb cunt.

>>128758285

t. Simulation cuck

>>128757979
>only living things

Hey snowflake, maybe you have not seen it yet, but earth is full of different species and some unknown we don't know exist yet in the deep oceans.

tw so delusional, just keep your dreams happy snowflake. whatever makes you happy

>>128758285
This has merit. The opposite of happiness isn't sadness, it's boredom.

>>128756411
Find something you like to do and put some effort into it; you might surprise yourself.

>>128758109
I wish.

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What a story mark !

So how is your sex life ?

>>128758153
And how did you beat that depression?

None of these other "people" are even real, Dane. Just fluff added to enhance the experience. You and I are the only players active and on /pol/ currently.

>>128756411
>life is meaningless, there is no point to being "productive. there is literally no reason to do anything other than provide yourself with vapid entertainment until you are eventually dead.

For you.

No, really, every person does what he sees meaning in and what he can. And it's easy to see that you aren't happy with your life, and want to invalidate other people's life as a consolation

>>128756411
Nigger get in touch with nature or something. Fucking plant a garden and raise some chickens, man.

Your life is devoid of meaning because you have no struggle. Make struggle for yourself.

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>>128756411
>life is meaningless, there is no point to being "productive"

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

>>128758153
KEK, did i say i didn't like life? Just because i say how the reality is makes me a sad cunt... pretty stupid of you anon. If life is pointless, then everything is more relaxed and fun. I enjoy it. Maybe hard for to get. Think out of the box anon.

>>128756411
Sweet, another nihilist in society, we need more of them.
Kys

They are convincing though, arent they?

"Shut up loser, the simulation is awesome! I have sex and vidya and weed!"

Top kek indeed.

You cannot fathom the wonders that await you on the other side.

>>128758871
Billshot! I'm active. But now that you say that I feel I should've moved on... P.s. take a break from the internet, go outside, stare at the sun. Lord with

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>>128756411
There are good reasons and good points. But you seems occupied with narrow minded egocentric small things.

>>128756411
>provide yourself with vapid entertainment until you are eventually dead

Dumb scandinavian. Don't bingewatch crap on Netflix and wait to die. Surrender yourself to the pleasures of body and mind and when death finally comes you will at least depart feeling satisfied.

>>128758871
Literally it could be, maybe they are all bot's that don't know it yet because they just can't think out of the box, just programmed to be the same as any other bot.

>>128759117
>>128759111
I think this proves meme energy flows through the path of least resistance, omae

>>128756411
The protocols of the elders of zion

>>128759117
That just means you still need to grow up.

>>128756411
Yes. We had been dead for billions of years before we were born, and we never noticed.

A meaningless life is a tough pill to swallow. So might as well enjoy your time here on this planet. Travel, fuck bitches, get money and have as many memorable experiences as you can before you go back to the dreamless sleep..

>>128759269
why are you mad? it's hurts your feelings about reality?`Nihilism means literally nothing just to make people in groups.

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>>128759322
>You cannot fathom the wonders that await you on the other side

WE HAVE SUCH SIGHTS TO SHOW YOU

Take your meds OP and go back to (((your room)))

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>>128759322
Really? So, what are you waiting for?

I am very sick but I have a job, pay taxes and contribute to society, planning to have 3 kids with my gf. I used to think like you when I was a teenager but now I'm nearly 30 and I my view changed.

>>128759466

They think they are real. Simple creatures really, I shouldnt disturb them like this, it could cause... complications.

At any rate, I'll see you on the other side. Don't worry, you'll know its me.

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>>128756411
100% this

>>128756551
fpbp; kek

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>>128756411
>>128757335
>He doesn't want to be an investment banker

It's a pretty cool job, outside of the US/UK (where the pay is good but the hours are not worth it)

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>>128756411
The fun thing is, every single thing has a cause but everything combined doesn't. so how can everything be nothing?

>>128756411
True.
Once we get basic income, what's the fucking point in living anymore?

>>128756411
Things that entertain me:
>outdoors physical activity
>shooting/archery
>lifting
>history
>science
>socio-political bullshit around the world
>helping the grandparents/nieces/nephew/cousins
>working on my own or other people's vehicles
>maintaining a clean and orderly environment and personal appearance
>learning/figuring how to fix things that break or need upkeep
>fucking
The more time I spend with kids, the more I want my own. The more I care about the future of humanity and my nation.

>>128760068
>people think nietzsche was a nihilist
maybe in burgerland

>>128759117
>>128759466
>>128759589

It's not really nihilism, you just sound like someone who's not happy with your life so you justify it retrospectively by saying life is meaningless and everyone else is a "bot" and stuff like that. I don't really care what you do with life, but it sounds like you're making some philosophy out of your own frustrations, and there's nothing insightful about that at all.

>>128757335
> I don't value anything so I don't engage in it
Things gain value from your engagement. Not the other way around. Nothing is worth anything until you are invested and engaged in it. Because meaning and purpose are byproducts of engaged striving.

Clean your room.

>>128758819
I haven't. I fight it. I let it consume me for a great deal of years, I learned to live with it, it was what was normal. Still is in a way, depressive tendencies I guess.
But I can fight that.
Like these last weeks I haven't gotten enjoyment out of the stuff I usually do to distract myself with, but I still laugh at jokes here, I still smile. I just don't let myself get so far down that I become like OP. Or if I do, I do something to snap myself out of it, though that may take a week or even longer, you just need to do it.

With depression you only have two choices, either you fight it or you let it consume you.
How you fight it is up to you, the way I do may not work for you, or you may not have the same options as I do.
For some, drugs may be needed, for others a change in diet or exercise may be what's needed.

But most of all, just do it. I can't stress that enough, no Shia. But everything I ever needed to do, be it take a shit, make food, take out the trash or clean, I always postponed for no real reason other than muh feels and "not right now, later".
But if you just start doing whatever is needed, it will help you a great deal. I know it seems pointless, but so is not doing it. Because the only way YOU can get YOURSELF out of such an situation is by doing something about it.
Finding that motivation isn't easy, or even maintaining it. But there is nothing else too it. You fight it, and you keep doing it until that is the new normal, and then with time you may even lose the depression altogether or at the very least make it manageable.

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>>128756411
>obese scaredy-cat bitchtits NEETlord desperately attempting to justify his depressive pit of a life by pretending there is no joy to be found in putting some effort into your existence

Lose fat, add muscle. Cut out sugar. Baby steps.

Or stay depressed. Your choice, fatty.

>>128759701
makes me laught every time desu suka blyat

>>128760872
PREACH NIGGA

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>>128758109
This is actually the truth, well done.

I feel like I'm cheating at "life" now that I have fully internalized this fact. Doors open for you in 3D once you begin to ascend spiritually/mentally/physically.

>>128756411
>life is meaningless, there is no point to being "productive. there is literally no reason to do anything other than provide yourself with vapid entertainment until you are eventually dead.
Most jobs are a unproductive waste of time, but unfortunately, it's something we all have to do. That's life, and it's probably as good as it'll get.

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>>128759023
>it's easy to see that you aren't happy with your life, and want to invalidate other people's life as a consolation

Bingo. Misery loves company. OP is very immature and fails to assume full responsibility for his own choices and resultant shitty outcomes.

>>128759722

So basically if you have kids and a girlfriend and that means your are grown up??

Sorry to disappoint you but grown up means nothing. Just opinions and for stupid people. It's because your kids and girlfriends takes your mind away from this and makes you happy. Whatever makes you feel good anon.

>>128761297
Holy shit I'd be killing myself if I had to spend most of my day doing some menial shit like work in retail, where you are given no flexibility.

>>128756411
Work wil set you free

>>128760872
KEK, i'm healthy 6.1 210lbs fit, and pretty happy with reality and not living in delusion anon.

>>128760739
Thank you for taking the time to respond. It is tough to get motivated when you have watched everything get worse in your country your whole life, and realizing it is a trend that will not be reversed. I learned the hard way that I have been getting exploited my whole life, and being a conscientious guy it was a very hard red pill to swallow. Between that, the financial crisis and the bailouts, the terrorism from wars we were robbed to finance, the cultural enrichment that is getting played down....

I had always been good at lying to myself, and drumming up motivation. The older I get though, the harder I find it to lie to myself to the end of motivation.

I sincerely hope you continue you fight with the relative success you seem to have been able to create, and maintain. Best to you and thanks for the response.

>>128756411

son, there's comes a time n any mans life when he has to ask himself one very ffundamental question-

>anycunt up itt like slipping the missus the rodger on a saturday night?

>>128756411
At least be a proper hedonist then, experience the greatest highs life can offer. Withering away in your room watching TV shows, playing games and masturbating is fucking torture after a while.

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>>128756411
>life is meaningless

This is objectively incorrect. Your goal here is to come to know truth and align your behavior to it. AKA Coming to know the occulted laws of creation (Natural Law) and knowing your signifance in every choice, and doing what is RIGHT and MORAL in EVERYTHING YOU DO. Every meal you eat, every breath you take, is to be used doing what is righteous. Otherwise, you give your will like a weak subhuman nigger into your base desires.

>>128756411
Fuck you, it's not my destiny to be entertained by vapidity like you.

>>128761205
but it's a test. the programmers wan to know how you'll act even when you know it's all meningless. Will you shed your agency?

But it's not meaningless because they want to know if you'll be a good fit for society outside so we're being tested here where they are safe from us.

>>128760548
literally your post makes no sense? what frustrations? The bot example could be true? who knows maybe you're a bot and you don't know it yet. It's just a theory, why are you people so mad?? it's just questions.

Anon, i really don't give 2shit about me. This talk is about what we define reality. You people are talking about your feelings daily makes me cringe. You all are made of the same stuff as any other living being on this planet.

>>128756411
t. 21st century leftist

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>>128756551

>>128757335
>>128756411
You two could be sucking each other's dicks right now. I'm sure that would make you faggots happy.

>>128756411

Work can be fun.

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>>128759701
Suicide is a breach of contract and as punishment you are left stuck here in 3D but without a physical body for X amount of time.

You don't ever want to kill yourself.

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>>128756411
Here's the modern version of your old ass movie reference. You're welcome.

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>>128756411
>he doesn't want to experience the unimaginable high of having just exterminated millions of mudslimes

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>>128756411
That, or you could have fun doing the many exciting and exhilarating things that life has to offer. Why choose not to do anything just because life may have no ultimate meaning? Live life to the fullest while you have it.

>>128761566
Those jobs are for monkeys Fincuck. What I was getting at is that OP should go back to school, get a career. Law enforcement is always a good choice, nice pension and lots of authority. Only downside to it, is you're dealing with scummy degenerates most of the time, and everyday holds new dangers. It's a 10/10 career, much mental/physical stimulation.

>>128756411
Læs, træn, involvér dig i politik?

>>128762254
Go into law enforcement, bruv. Everything changes when you're cop.

>>128762143
>This is objectively incorrect. Your goal here is to come to know truth and align your behavior to it


Who said that? what is right and what is wrong? We all define these words, wrong basically means anything that harms other is wrong. We perspective ourselves, because of empathy.. In the nature there are no right and wrong. We humans invented this words to be more civilized to each other and that's it.

Life is what you make it but in the in the large scheme of things it's pointless. That's why don't be so serious all the time you're just wasting it.

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>>128762228
We are all little individuated balls of pure energy/consciousness/spirit (the same thing) that flowed out from Source in an effort by Source to understand what/where/whom/why it is. We are all together what constitutes the Godhead, or God, or the Universal Consciousness, whatever term you prefer to describe the same entity, which is all of us.

>>128756411
I would say that you are a class A example of some modern hippie on the welfare check.

>>128762650
anon, why are you so mad? what's the trigger that gives you these words?


>ftw just for science

>>128761835
Thanks man, I hope you get there yourself. It isn't impossible.
I can't tell you what's needed, you already know.
I can't tell you what to aspire to, you'll find that yourself.

Stop lying to yourself, it only does you harm, be honest with yourself, if you can't be honest with yourself you can't be honest with others.

And don't let the big picture stuff break you down, use it for motivation. Like that smart dude with the weird voice says, you can't fix the world without fixing yourself first.

We can all achieve peace of mind, but it's individualistic so the only person to fix you is you. Take inspiration and compassion where you can, but in the end it's you who need to fix it.

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this kind of thought process is what allowed me to get addicted to drugs. good times

I'm succesful just out of spite.

>>128758153
Maybe he has a family that would greatly suffer if he kills himself. Don't talk like that

>>128763902
Thank you for the kind words; it helps. Best to you and yours, friendo, and good luck on your journey.

>>128763584
yes

Can anyone prove OP wrong? You can give your life meaning and think you are progressing in life or whatever you want to fucjing believe. But as soon as you die everything you worked for will be gone. You will forget you ever lived (your brain turned off)
Unless you think not believing in anything is more far fetched than believing in space jesus.

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>>128756411
Meaning is what you decide to make it, baby nihilist.

>>128756411
Neomarxist Postmodernism

>>128764913
>Can anyone prove OP wrong? You can give your life meaning and think you are progressing in life or whatever you want to fucjing believe. But as soon as you die everything you worked for will be gone. You will forget you ever lived (your brain turned off)
So what?
That's just existence.
You're still better off doing something and enjoying your short existence. It just so happens that doing something with your life is more enjoyable than doing nothing.

>>128764185
I tried pointing out how there is a reason he hasn't done so already in the next line.
>>128764241
Thank you and same to you brother.

>>128756411
Fuck off back to plebbit

>>128756411
Degenerates darkens the reality of our world. Don't let them win. Stay and fight them.

>>128765198
>short existence. It just so happens that doing something with your life is more enjoyable than doing nothing.

All depends anon. So what so magnificent that humans can do. Some people can find happiness with reading books, internet, whatever makes them feel good.

So basically why are people so mad and hating on each other? it's pointless and not funny, maybe to some sad cunts who want to see other feel sad. In the end makes no difference if that person was good or bad. However the human society would be much better with a happy society.

>>128765806
>y r ppl mean :(

Fucking idiot

>>128756411
I don't think it's that it's meaningless, but that we all go through periods that we honestly can't tell WTF is going on. Hopefully, you're young enough to let it ride- I'm almost sure things will clear.
It's a SONUVABITCH when you're getting old. Scary as hell.

>>128756411
Precognition is real. People see the future in advance. Sometimes major events, most times ordinary. Don't let 'science' fool you otherwise. Predetermination is a fact. So although life is usually mundane, even suffering, there's a reason you experience it, either in what we call real life, or maybe life itself is a dream. But someone or something wrote the script and we have to live it. Of necessity, everything's been coordinated. Occasionally, the programme glitches such as when a person is struck by lightning or wins the lottery several times in succession

We're like flowers, we grow, we set seed and we die.
If there was any point to life it would only have to happen once; not the constant repetitions of cycles.

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>>128756411
Anon, not everyone dies.

>>128766442
You don't get my point.

What's the point making someone sad? Human mind is more beautiful when it's feels happy which makes the world a better place.

However most humans are not educated enough and too much selfish, narcissistic because of all the television, movies, and wrong parent hood

>>128767479
You sound like my danish gf.
That you smukke?

OP is technically right....everyone is getting butthurt and saying kys but in the end...it was pointless. No matter how much shit you build and how much money is saved for your offspring....eventually it will be pointless for them and the cycle keeps going. Just have fun and don't take everything so seriously!

>>128767755
It's not pointless because it improved their existence during the time they were alive. And that's all that matters.

>>128756411
>Nihilism: the world is an empty void. There is no meaning no matter how deeply you look into it.

>Existentialism: It's a canvas and I brought paints!

>>128756411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8A1p9u1aSU

>>128767952
Anon, you're just too simple minded. However whatever makes you happy. enjoy the ride.

>>128768285
Why do you need meaning to be happy anon?

>>128768384
>simple minded
Nothing you're saying in this thread is particularly deep or insightful, and has in fact been dealt with since the ancient Greeks, though most recently by Nietzsche and Kierkagaard.
Now finish high school.

>>128768636
I don't need meaning. You create meaning by what you do. Even if it's temporary, it still existed at that time and place, and it could very well have not existed at all, so that makes it exciting.

>>128756411
The meaning of life is to find the meaning of life. The more we progress technologically the more we can learn about and understand the world. Also, we must preserve the White race because it is the only valuable human group.

>>128768855
>You create meaning by what you do.
Agreed

Meaning means just for humans today because of all the technology to make life easier. In the past people didn't know what meaning was, they just live their life because they want to survive. Similar to animals, they just live to survive.

>>128769544
It's like I said, you can see an empty black void and despair or you can see an empty black canvas and draw some happy trees.

>>128764185
kill yourself pussy

Life is pointless and it takes effort to even enjoy life, where as suffering can occur easily. And people reproduce for whatever selfish reason they have to fuel their delusions. Anyone who reproduces is a selfish psychopath.

>>128770075
Or maybe you just lack imagination.

>>128770075
T.anti-natalist teenager

>>128756411
Just live life to the fullest in your own way.

>>128757979
you seem like a massive fag

>>128756411
it's also pointless not doing anything, so you could as well be doing something

>>128770289
Prove what I said was wrong.

>>128770298
T.egotistical psychopath

>>128770933
>Prove what I said was wrong.
Unlike you, I don't need to.

>>128771327
Life is pointless, there's nothing that shows there's a point. And just do nothing and allow anything bad happen to you, and tell me if you enjoy it? Of course not; it takes effort to enjoy. And since life is pointless, people reproduce for their own selfish desire. So tell me, where am I wrong?

>>128770933
>Prove what I said was wrong.

Can't prove a negative, brainlet

>>128756411
Better neck yourself then you miserable cunt

>>128770933
>the guy that wants the whole human race to stop existing is calling others a sociopath
When did we ever have a better time to have children on the basis of moral grounds? When we had the black plague? When 99% of children would grow up without ever being able to read or write? When children died from the common cold?

For the first time in human history, we have the opportunity to raise human nearly fully developed human beings on the basis of love and want, and not because of the necessity of survival.

Go fix your depression kiddy.

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>>128756742
>Then you have only one option
uh, no?
live it up till you die, retard

>>128756411
Start cleaning your room

>>128756411
you sound like a pathetic faggot holding out hope that life is as meaningless as you make it out to be because you're a piece of shit and you want people to tell you that's okay. fuck off

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>>128756411
Personally, I love to draw, paint and read because these are some of the few things that actually make me feel alive. When I neglect these things or am forced to, I feel exactly like you do.

This isn't actually the easiest time to be alive watching your civilization crumble in passive oblivion behind a screen while there seems to be no real adventure or glory left. I'm trying to better myself by completing a degree in STEM, and if I don't do this I will disappoint and be hated by my family, although I am not happy personally with this insufferable commitment.

My friends and family are dying all around me in an almost domino effect. I'm getting older while falling apart also.

>>128771727
Meaning and value are subjective, it's pointless to you because you've decided it should be so, probably because you're a coward and don't have the balls to face the abyss. It's not pointless to me.

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>>128756411
Who could be behind this post?

>>128756411
A piece of paper doesn't have meaning either until you write something on it.

Get the gist?

Op is right

>>128771865
The fact that humans have been in horrible conditions and still reproduced proves that humans are selfish and cling to their own delusions that life is worth it.

>>128772001
Yeah, I get it, you want to create life without its consent because you're delusional enough that your own personal reason makes any suffering worth it.

>>128772165
Exactly

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>>128772260
>A piece of paper doesn't have meaning either until you write something on it.


>for a human

kek, thanks for the laugh

>>128772533
Whats your point?

Why does meaning have to come from someone/something else?

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>>128772165
>>128772443
muh, beeww are behind this post!! (((deeiyyy)))

>>128772372
What's wrong with selfishness? If you acknowledge that existence is pointless, why are you concerned about selfishness.
And don't assume everyone as miserable as you are. You're projecting your own misery on everyone else.

>>128772965
Selfishness leads to misery, and since selfishness is so prevalent, suffering is too. And how miserable I am is irrelevant; the point is that life shouldn't exist because it's objectively pointless and to enjoy life involves effort and selfishness; while as suffering will occur easily, unlike enjoyment since it takes effort.

>>128761205
>Doors open for you in 3D
Could you elaborate or provide examples. This obtuse-speak is incredibly annoying to wade through whenever topics like this are brought up

>>128772683

Let me explain your meaning is a delusion. similar to animals when they don't know what meaning means. They just life their life because it's what makes them survive.

>>128756411

If it's any consolation it seems that limitation is a necessary precondition to being. In other words for (you) to exist in any sense you must have the capacity to suffer. That's why this could all be a simulation. If we ever got to the point where we were all powerful beings we would probably impose limitation upon ourselves out of necessity.

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>>128756411
While this is true in a way, most people will feel more fulfilled if they are pursuing some goal that they believe in. Something about our brain chemistry releases the feel goods when we feel like we are contributing to society and progressing even though in the end it sorta is pointless.

But aren't all games pointless? What's the purpose of a game of handball? The games gonna end at one point, why play at all? "I could slip and break my shin, that would suck, and the guy is 10x better than me anyways."
Theses are all reasonable thoughts that I think everyone with any awareness comes to think about every now and then. People use to be able to look to God for guidance and they would know that they "needed" to play and how to play. But now that we've killed him we have to make up our own reasons to play this game that's been forced upon us and that's a lot harder than just looking up to the big man in the sky.

I can't give you a definite answer, the whole point is that you have to come up with your own reason for being. While that could be porn and video games I would tell you what I wish someone told me because those feelings are hollow and in the long run, will wear you down. Try things until you find something you love and let it kill you. Spend time with friends. Help people suffer just a bit less whenever possible. Take responsibility for your quality of life and of those around you. Remember that in the end it's all just a game and even shitty games can be fun with friends and the right attitude.

>>128756411
Here's some music OP. Maybe just more vapid entertainment, but it makes me feel alright.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTsN7uugtfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5JX4-zZbiY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nGLqXZ-f70

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztlZq_qqu-4

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>>128756411

nothing matters bro haha just indulge your senses haha just live for the now bro lol

>>128760100
>being a jew is cool


Kys mongol

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>>128756411
Life has a meaning. It is to increase the popularity of National Socialism in Europe. There is literally not reason to do anything other than increase the popularity of National Socialism in Europe.

>>128756411
Meaning of life = constant mental and physical evolution.

>>128773406
>Selfishness leads to misery, and since selfishness is so prevalent, suffering is too. And how miserable I am is irrelevant;

Great to see some intelligent people on this board.

>>128756411
that's just your ubermensch mentality speaking
realize that you're just an animal (a monkey) and go on with your life in this system (start being productive) you fucking manchild lazy ass faggot cuck

>>128773406
Life isn't objectively pointless.
There is no objectivity beyond biology, physics, and chemistry. The rest is invented by us. If you want it to be pointless, then live life like that. If you don't, invent your own meaning or take existing meaning that people have already created like Kierkagaard did.

There is a contradiction in your world view. If life is objectively pointless, then selfishness and suffering shouldn't concern you at all. But for some reason, they do. And your personal suffering is worth mentioning, that's what your ideology is derived from. You're a coward and too afraid to create your own values.

You're over 2 millennium out of date.

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>>128756411
Jokes on you, you hedonistic scum, my enjoyment comes from helping others and fixing problems

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It's true, in this universe you must kill to survive - no other options. Only the most animal-like thrive. One mustn't dwell on the future or the suffering of others or they get slowed down. An emotionless, yet creative AI is the perfect lifeform for this environment.
This universe truly is an abomination and the i think the ultimate goal of humanity is to escape this reality, or destroy it, using technology.

>>128756411

That's true in industrial Westernized societies today, but once upon a time people actually had to work and struggle to keep themselves and their communities alive, so nihilism wasn't even a concept.

>>128756411

Meaning comes with the relation with the collective

The reason you feel depressed and without direction is because you are alienated from your natural purpose of existence: Fight for and with your people, work for and with your people and struggle for and with your people

There is no existential despair on well adjusted collectives working and living for the same purpose, the brotherhood is what gives life meaning, soldiers know that

>>128756411
Your day to day life IS meaningless because the only meaning to life is to serve the Father and his son Jesus Christ, which being a eurofag, you probably dont do.

>>128773791

Thanks for that, I'm feeling alright now

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>>128774337
Been some time since I've last seen another share my views.

>>128774120
All of this is tied to our current perceived circumstances, though.

If the people in power weren't in power right now, it could be said happiness and productivity are the paths of least resistance in that circumstance, not the way it is right now.

tldr it is not an absolute

>>128774291
That's good, ask that to some animals they will not understand the questions similar to you.

Helping others and fixing problems makes your place a better moment on this planet.

Nothing against that. It's all depends on that persons mentality.

>>128764185
You shouldn't live for other people, but if I was miserable enough to want to kill myself, I would at least understand how doing so could ruin everyone else's. Even if it doesn't matter since you're dead, I think just seeing the effects it has on another family it's happened to is enough to never want to do it.

>>128774086
actually your're wrong there...evolution is merely adaptation to ones surroundings..there is no 'upward' path or end goal to evolution/life...example the great white shark and numerous single celled planktons that have remained unchanged for about 300 million odd years

>>128774238

It's objectively pointless; any reason for living is personal. Unless you can show to me where it is irrevocably and undeniably defined. Just deal with the fact that you're delusional and like to spread suffering.

>>128774714
People can't just stand still, so there will always be someone trying to be ahead.

>>128756411
That's what you are making life to be in your own mind. You are wallowing in your own self pity and struggle, and exaggerating reasons to give up entirely.

I understand your struggle, but giving up is stupid and dishonors your past. A future can still be born, and crimes can still be punished. You aren't alone in your struggle, millions feel it. There is hope for an idealist future, you just have to start imagining it and wanting it. If you don't want it, your mind will stay how it is. Break the depression and be filled with pride brother. Don't let the strife get to your heart, always fight for the beauty and unique nature of your future generations. Stay strong my kin, there is something bright and meaningful up ahead. Don't get off this ride yet.

>>128758143
You are talking about interesting stuff.
Also there are a few more than that, don't you think?

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Why should we give a fuck about anything? We are just conscious space dust, in a space of time.that will be over as soon as it began. We are irrelevant to the universe. It existed with out us, and it will again. We might as well just entertain our self's until we die. Furthermore, There is no point coming here unless its for entertainment . Politics will always be decided by the normies, all we ever do is fuck all. We are insignificant and irrelevant. Just a bunch of larping faggots.

>>128775559
It doesn't change that the effort to benefit ratio is (currently) drastically skewed against the common man's favor. Sure he can try, but when probabilistically it is against his favor, he will often take the path of least resistance.

But yes, there is always someone that will go against the grain, and those are often the great men that advance society. Problem is, it's highly unlikely anyone in this thread would be categorized in such a fashion, and doesn't provide much incentive for anyone to do so.

>>128775559
>It's objectively pointless; any reason for living is personal. Unless you can show to me where it is irrevocably and undeniably defined. Just deal with the fact that you're delusional and like to spread suffering.
Why do you concern yourself with suffering?
You can't even live out your own philosophy. Pathetic coward.

>>128775559
P.s.
You were refuted by men smarter than you thousands of years before you were even born.

>>128773585
>. similar to animals when they don't know what meaning means. They just life their life because it's what makes them survive.

So you admit here already, that living creatures have a will to life, and that its innate, without anything external needing to be placed within them.

There's something that overrides even the will to life though, that's the Will to power, in humans this means pursuing wealth, health, status, strength and everything good.

You've fallen for the Nihilism meme because you're seeking some external validation where you needn't be doing so, this is what Nietzsche warned us about.

>>128776493
I'm still waiting for you to prove that life has objective meaning. And since life is pointless and just exists so others can try and be better than everyone, I think there's no reason it should exist.

>>128756411

Op is right.

There is no point, not even for animals, they live because they know the must.

It's called instinct. Some people lost the will to survive, that's because we are living in a society, at least in western europe, where you don't really need to survive anymore.

You just live, and try to feel good that's about it.

If one person realises that getting pleasure from things is just retarded and mindless, he made the first step through the next level of human consciousness.

People are slowly waking up, this happens to the human mind ever 24k years.

Depression and anxiety are the first transformation processes of your mind, it's natural, because every stoneage fibre of your body hates what you are thinking, your body just want's to get kids and survive.

Now use that depression, use the meaninglessness to ascend over it, to become enlightened, to become basically that what buddha was.

This transformation is til now only in our minds, but there will be a big war, the biggest we have ever seen between the old mind and the next step of our consciousness.

>>128758548
It's about life, does the life of animals is not meaningless?
Maybe he did not include this in his use of «we», but anyway..

>>128756411
I have a feeling you are one of those people that misunderstood Donnie Darko and the true nature of Frank.

>>128759372
Tell us some please

while true "being productive" at least brings some level of satisfaction while alive.

The journey of nihilism is a two step process nigger. What is the next logical step once you accept that value and meaning are not inherent, but rather assigned?

Spoiler: you assign your own meaning and work to impose that meaning upon others.

>>128759526
Did you swallow it already, anon?

>>128777205
German anon, you close to the truth. My mind has change in a big way and it's feels great. It's like i'm melted with the universe.

>>128756551
op pls don't kill yourself you might be able to recover from this some day..

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>>128778116
This is not a good place for deep talk. But get a good doge and work from there.

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>>128756411
Well, I guess I kinda worked it out. If there's no great glorious end to all this, if nothing we do matters... , then all that matters is what we do. 'Cause that's all there is. What we do. Now. Today.

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>>128756411
Nihilism is death. the inverse is everything is meaningful and important. SORT YOURSELF OUT!

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>>128756411
by believing this to be the case you guarantee yourself for a life of JUST.

best to stay the course, work hard and do your best, in spite of the chaos of everything else. there is nothing to be gained by cucking your mind into feeling worthless.

oh and also your edgy as fuck for even having the sack to be so sure about any of this.

>>128758548
>>128761479
>>128763574
>>128768384
What if it is only about whatever makes you feel good? If “it" were about emotions and feelings what would you think?

>>128756411
This is nihilism and it's not good for you. If nothing matters then how are you not enjoying yourself? Build some ethics and follow a path to success.

>>128756411
This has been a good thread of discussion. Thank you, OP.

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>>128756411
Life doesn't have some greater meaning than to sustain life itself. Humanity is a form of this existence. There is a lot of point to do productive stuff as it carries a very different kind of reward and respect than just masturbating can bring you. You also have a lot of potential to influence the world and your surroundings if you so desire.

So in general you have a very minimal view on life because you suck and you want to tell yourself that being shamefully passive is ok even when society says it's not. First off, I do kind of agree that you can just masturbate yourself to death but I don't agree that it'd be the most interesting way to spend your life.

>>128779866
Nothing matters depends on you. If you want a better world to feel the enjoy of your true emotions to be human. Do that. or whatever you're brainwashed into. However this part is important. if you want a world of suffering you will eventually suffer too.

Meaning means nothing, it's everything you do makes the meaning of (your) life. which is a delusion in the grand scheme of things. The true value is the emotions and happiness you make of your life.

>>128756411
Look a little closer at your flag

>>128780006
This
To deem life as meaningless implies you have evaluated and refuted all the things that claim to give life meaning.

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>>128756411
What if I told you that being productive was the source of entertainment and pleasure. The feeling of success is something I strive and so I do it.

>>128760739
Dude.

You people suffer from Seasonal Affective Disorder because you don't get enough sunlight.

It's not depression.

You live in the dark.

>>128763584
Why this is the meaning and not another?

>>128780248
Depends, this is your life. Whatever makes you happy is not a waste of your life. However happiness can be in many different forms, some can make you unhealthy, so you most balance the body with physically hard work or workout to balance with your unhealthiness to get a better mood. Happiness need a balance to be mentally healthy for being happy.

>>128780006

Read the thread to understand the meaning of this thread.

worthless means nothing it's just people around you brainwashing you into feeling this way.

When you live you always find something you like to spend the time with. See me i'm on this anime image board speaking to some random people.

>>128756712
I agree with him.

t. doing better than the average Joe

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Nigger.

>>128756411
There's no reason to not do anything either.


Wait there is actually a reason to be productive. It makes you more successful, makes you feel fulfilled, and you can go have fun with the money you make.

>>128760100
You'll get paid less than in the US or UK but work as many hours.

Great choice, dumbass.

t. worked in IB

>>128783427
Hit me with a source senpai

>>128783935
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5927516a72949

here you go bro

>>128783427
It's crazy, I actually JUST watched that same porno the other day. Small world.

>>128783905
>Wait there is actually a reason to be productive. It makes you more successful, makes you feel fulfilled, and you can go have fun with the money you make.

anon it's all depends mentally on that person.

Some people who are rich are depressed because everybody is a leech to them. There are many forms of human happiness and one of them is not that. Money is nice a good but in the end you have everything it's becomes boring.

>>128784095
Why are all caps porn titles always so hilarious

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>>128776153

>We are insignificant and irrelevant. Just a bunch of larping faggots.
yes, and that's what makes /pol unique. everything else in the world is so fake and gay that even a shred of our determination can have a real impact

>>128759111
Rare and checked.

Oh yeah and also
>>>/his/

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>>128756411
>t.child raping satanist

>>128782516
Wait what? I've always been a night person. This is why I've struggled with depression for so long? That's actually a little bit funny. In an abstract sort of way.

>>128756411
>life is meaningless
YOUR life is meaningless. You really ought to go ahead and kill yourself.

>>128756411
Your country will live on after you, your DNA and people will live on after you. You have an obligation to set the stage for their greatness.

Nihilism is the most disgusting, defeatist faggotry on the planet.

Nihilism is for lazy, faint of heart fucktards with no other aspiration other than to go with the flow of entropy. OP don't know what it means to human condition.

>>128786508
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>>128756411
Your material life is just a state, you can transcend.

>>128766789
Maybe one of the worst scenarios.
Almost always a world of open possibilities is preferable to the existence of a destiny, no?

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>>128756411
good goy, the programming is working

consume more. buy more things. spend more money. take more loans. you must fill the emptiness of your life, goyim.

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>>128756411
Nigger please

>>128773988
This

>>128768678
>Nothing you're saying in this thread is particularly deep or insightful, and has in fact been dealt with since the ancient Greeks, though most recently by Nietzsche and Kierkagaard.
>Now finish high school.
I don't think they are enough reasons to stop arguing about something like this.

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>>128756411
Post like these always remind me at what a desolate State we have arrived in as a Society.
We no longer strive to create families, because why bother. When your people and your Country become irrelevant in the Eyes of the Mainstream, and just like everyone else, what is the point in keeping your bloodline going.
We no longer strive to create Art, to become people of meaning, we just all dissolve in hedonistic pleasures, because Society says its cool, modern, and the best way to become a happy person.
A sad world, in which starting a family and living a stable happy lives have become painted as such bleak goals, that we have to ask ourselves what even the point of living is.
That is, in fact, what happens when one takes away morality, ethics, Nation, Family and everything that granted some sense of Stability in ones Life.
You just drift into nothingness, aimless, nihilistic and unhappy.

>>128756411
You just Now found out?

>>128756411
>life is meaningless
There does not need to be one singular meaning to life. Meaning is like a placebo.
If you can find something that gives you meaning (e.g. money, family, work, etc), and it gives you a feeling of purpose or meaning to your life, something to strive for, then it doesn't matter whether it is ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things

Perception is reality, if you feel you are fulfilled in life, then you are, if you believe your life has meaning, then it does

>>128756411
there is a point to life: let your women be ahmed's

>>128756411
you make your own meaning if you cant find anything to cherish preserve peruse create or maintain then thats your fault not life's buckaroo sweetum apple babby

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>>128756411
Suck a dick, and choke on it you self defeating nihilist.

>>128768285
>I brought paints
What are you some sort of fag ?

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>>128756411
t. nihlist kys useless faggot

>>128756411
That's all well and good, but at the end of the day why push this thought on people shitposting on an anonymous masonry forum? Whether life is meaningless or not does not account for the fact that you're still here and that as far as you can tell, you exist. So life has no meaning, then what? Alright, go kill yourself. Right now, do it. Life has no meaning, no one will miss you and your death be for nothing. Or you can find meaning in your life and work from there. Besides, you're going to die anyway, you might as well enjoy yourself while you're here.

>>128771974
You are being listened to, thank you for writing your point of view

>>128773406
Powerful arguments

>>128773728
Reasonable, yes. We should be able to consider the biological, chemical or general bases of mind and behavior as well for this topic

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>>128756411
Life is literally all perspective. Once you realise you are the co-creator of your existence, life becomes a blast. Even when doing little mundane shit. You choose how you feel everyday. Wanna be happy? Decide to be. It's literally that easy.
Have some fucking responsibility. This generation is full nihilist faggots cause we're so use to being ordered around all the time and being coddled so we expect others to give us meaning. To tell us what the true meaning of it all is.
In reality, its much greater. What greater gift is there in the universe than free-will ? The ability to choose and decide your own meaning and purpose. You are a demigod in that sense. A creator of your own cosmic existence. Of course as long as it doesn't involve infringing on others free-will.
The bandwidth of reality that we pick up with the 5 senses is such a small layer of true nature its ridiculous. Nature is an infinite rabbit-hole. Look out to the sky and fall in love with all that there is. Look within and learn to love yourself and how to control your own consciousness and you will see.
Good luck.

>>128795118
>free will
>real
your whole post is about the joy of being a brainlet

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>>128758792
>biological impulses are the meaning of life

T. Double digit IQ

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>>128795463
Consciousness is free will. It is separate from your physicality which may be programmed by social conditioning. Once you shift your paradigm and realise the true nature of what you are, you unlock the sight to actually use your free will.
If you're not paying attention then you're just being programmed by the data and stimuli of your environment and media you absorb.
You have to become aware of your consciousness/true self and let that guide you. After that the information becomes a tool rather than a ruler over you.

>>128756411
There is no rational argument for nihilism unless you are a psychopath

>>128797363
I'm not disagreeing with you and I'm not a nihilist by any measure but I don't see how you can't logically argue that nothing has inherent value, seems pretty straightforward to me, if you're an atheist at least

>>128756411
THE ABSOLUTE SLIDE MAN.

>>128796782
But they are.

Your only job in life is to reproduce, through an evolutionary stand point.

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>>128756411
Op, There is an afterlife my friend, for those worthy enough to reach this humble understanding.

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>>128756411
People will hate you for speaking and feeling a nihilistic perspective, but anyone with half a shred of intelligence will arrive at that conclusion for some amount of time. However nihilism is not a conclusion but a problem to be solved. Luckily many people who came before you have (somewhat) transcended it. The things I keep in mind are the fact that existence itself, life, consciousness and morality are mysteries. We literally don't have a clue what any of these things are doing here or how they even got here. You think of yourself as an object in a sea of objects but thats simply not true. Consciousness affords you the role of subject. The human race being the only known subjects in the entire universe. The two give each other meaning.

That being said I think the other thing to do is to focus more on practicality. Nihilism is a dead end. Its not a matter of critical thinking to arrive at but disillusionment with the self. You have drives to accomplish goals regardless of your feelings toward what/why you want to accomplish them. Flowers bloom, dogs bark and they aren't too concerned with the why. Spend your time centering yourself on humanity and what you can be working toward that brings YOU not pleasure, but meaning.