For all the idiot WHITU PIGGU asking about the Qatar/Saudi situation

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>to back the Yemeni invasion as legitimate
>to launch a media attack on Iran (through Al Jazeera and co JUST LIKE MBC Group has been doing for the past 4 years)
>to back Sisi's coup as legitimate and DENOUNCE the Muslim brotherhood
>Qatar says fuck you
>says without Iran there can be no peace in the region
>says Sisi's coup is illigitmate and hates the war on Yemen
>Salman and son are not patient/calculating
>this happens

pretty much this. enough with the stupid fucking theories and the "let me tell you about your region" mentality. You have the privilege of being on an international website with knowledgeable people from across the world. use that privileged.

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BUMP

I'LL Bump it for interest.

>>128676751
So just a dick waving contest then?

>>128676797
>>128676751
Good post. I am uninformed, my question is: why is there the suggestion that there can be no peace in the region without Iran? I have heard this before. Doesn't Iran fund terrorism massively and was (perhaps, is) developing a nuclear program and launching ballistic missiles left right and centre? Why is there such a focus on making sure Iran stays functional in the Middle East. Is it something to do with the Sunni/Shia divide?

Also, I am always pleasantly surprised at how well people from the farthest corners of the world speak and write in English with more fluency than 90% of the people I know in my native Anglo country.

>>128676751
if you see that what happened in 2013 is a coup, then what happened in 2011 is also a coup

you cannot name one a revolution and the other a coup unless you're a fucking islamist

>>128678453
With a bit of premature ejaculation thrown in (impatient Salman & Son)

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stupid sand monkeys fighting for nothing as per usual

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>>128678453

It was a dick waving contest when Abdullah was a live. now it is a 7/10 happening.

If you turn on any Saudi owned TV station they're going ALL OUT

from

"the temporary rift with our brothers" to

"The traitors, the terrorist sympathizers etc."

I reckon Salman will not rest until Qatar leadership (AL THANI) is completely replaced

Pls bamp

If Salman and soon are not patient/calculating, how would you describe them instead?

>>128676751
Thanks for the insightful posts Jordanbro. Do you have a source for this:

>(rumors say he insisted when Trump came over

>>128679058
So if there is a coup, who's likely to get in? Some royal cousin or a general or what? Quatar is tiny.

>>128678875
Dodger licked her cat's asshole

What caused like 5 different countries to sever ties with Qatar at once though? Is there a huge political scandal or something I missed?

I mean, the issues OP talked about don't seem to explain the sudden reaction, as most of those issues have been going on for years.

>>128679269
There's an army at the door, I doubt there will be a coup.

5 OPEC nations?

>>128679269
>>128679606


people dont knwo this but this happen back in (apprx. 1997) Qatari prince overthrew his father and Saudis stood with the father and took him in.

There is a very very large family that has dual citizinship (saudi + Qatar) in Qatar called AL MARRI tribe, Saudi ARabia used this very large powerful tribe to influence the Qatari regime back then, it will be interesting to see if they do the same this time

>>128679127

rash. inexperienced. easily influenced by the USA


>>128679258
>Do you have a source for this:

when trump came to Saudi Salman invited every single arab leader including Qatar's, of coursee everyone is saying thats when Salman gave the ultimatum but i cant say i have sources

>>128679504

Salman gave the ultimatum during the Islamic conference when Trump came (i cant give source for this. maybe someone else can)

Also, please stop namefagging when you post in other threads. It's appropriate for this one as you are an OP with unique info/perspective.

In other threads it's distasteful.

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>>128679751

no one cares what you find tasteful and what you find distasteful. fuck off if you dont like it newfag

>>128676797
so where does DRUMPF fit in this picture

are we finna be dragged into another paki war or what

>>128676751
basically saudis being jews as usual

>>128679916
You prevent attention whoring in your women, but embrace it as a man?

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>>128679058
Thanks for the geopolitical insight of your region, Jordanian anon.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWSF5I4I3Lw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWSF5I4I3Lw
By the way, I like the music of this propaganda video.
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2)Did Qatar supported Shi'a groups
>>128672550
>>128675708
>>128676244
3)Is this (((falconry accident))) happened? Was it planned and just a pretext to give them money?

>>128679987

No. This situation is perfect for Iran though, now they have another foothold in the region since Saudi ARabia stopped giving Qatar food, IRan immediately started white knighting and opened trade routes for food.

all trump has to do is watch this boil over while PRETENDING to side with the Saudis (since the gave him 200 billion)

>>128676751
Sandniggers gonna sandnig

>>128676797
REALITY:
Sisi was elected with twice as many votes as Morsi

>>128676751

Background music for Great Arabic War.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlbBIpTPM8o

>>128676751
>>128676797
Good shit.

This is the stuff I like to see. Lots to look into and read about thank you.

>>128680484
>Votes meaning shit in the mid east

At most it's a fairly accurate indicator of who has the most soft power, whose bribery is accepted.

>>128679712
>of coursee everyone is saying thats when Salman gave the ultimatum
what ultimatum? im not following this part
also, i didnt really follow trumps trip very much.
besides the weapons deal and a speech about islam, what else was on the agenda in paki-land

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Sisi - 2014
>23,780,104 votes
Morsi - 2012
>13,230,131 votes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_presidential_election,_2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_presidential_election,_2014

So what's stopping Qatar from getting straight Crimea'd? Fuck, even 1/3rd of Libya stonewalled them.

Why now though?
Also, how the Americans not doing anything about this?
Can you also explain difference between Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists?

>>128680717
No, getting 23 million people off their asses to support you (10 million more than your opponents) is real exercise of popular political power.

You call a political rally and get 23 million to it.

>>128680722

The three things, didn't you read the OP?

>to back the Yemeni invasion as legitimate
>to launch a media attack on Iran (through Al Jazeera and co JUST LIKE MBC Group has been doing for the past 4 years)
>to back Sisi's coup as legitimate and DENOUNCE the Muslim brotherhood

>Qatar says fuck you
>says without Iran there can be no peace in the region
>says Sisi's coup is illigitmate and hates the war on Yemen
>Salman and son are not patient/calculating
>this happens

>>128681033
why does SA hate yemen so much and why does Qatar oppose a fight in yemen?

why does qatar support the muslim brotherhood and not sisi

why does SA not support the muslim brotherhood? i thought both SA and the MB were both terrorists in one shape or form

also can you explain this:
>>says without Iran there can be no peace in the region

>>128681033
So what's the endgame? Does Quatar bend the knee or get Ghaddaffi'ed?

>>128680484
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Egyptian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

First there was the coup d'etat

>>128680717
This.

when i lived in saudi we had to bribe customs to get our dog on base. everyone bribes everyone its part of their culture.

>>128680903

In reality, the Muslim brotherhood / Salafis / Wahhabis can all be used interchangeably. It's like when you say "black man" instead of NIGGER.

Wahhabism = Salafism birthed the Muslim Brotherhood in the 1920s, the MB will of course over the years the change the severity of their tone depending on

A. their numbers
B. the state's view of them

so in jordan for instance the MB is very docile. In Egypt where they have MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of supporters they are a major pain in the ass. but are almost universally hated by anyone who isn't a retard

>>128681310

my guess is, Qatar shows a show of strength for a while then bends the knee in the name of "Arabic brotherhood", otherwise it really is fucked this time

>>128680245
Can Qatar really be a foothold for Iran though, considering our military base and it's Sunni population?

>>128676751
Our flagship system, named "raad2" is a Cray XC40-AC with 4,128 Intel Xeon Haswell cores. Installed in early 2017, it has 172 compute nodes with an aggregate peak performance of 120+ TFLOPS(Linpack).

https://rc-docs.qatar.tamu.edu/index.php/Raad2_intro

>>128678714
Jesus how blue pilled are you? Iran doesn't fund terrorism. Saudi Arabia does. They are developing a nuclear program but they don't launch missiles everywhere.

>>128681492
But how come MB and Salafis hate each other? Why does SA support one group but not the other, and Qatar vice versa?

>>128681033
>Respect Sisi's election with 10.5 million more votes than Morsi, and stop funding the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group's treason and bombing campaign against the people and popularly elected government of Egypt.

By funding the MB, Qatar have declared war on Egypt. Time that shitty little meme gulf countires learned they only exist because greater powers allow them to on indulgence.

>>128681735
Why not both?

>>128681735
Iran does fund terrorists, like Hamas in Gaza, and Hezbollah, also some limited support of the Houthis

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>>128680516

>>128681545

not a literal foothold, Iran isn't going to field soldiers in Qatar you retard, but having economic/media/diplomatic/intelligence cooperation with Iran is a death sentence (as far as the Saudis is concerned), I dont think this will happen but Qatar might go all out

>>128681758

Because MB itself is infighting among themselves. but, THERE IS NO POLITICAL GROUP CALLED "THE SALAFIS" like "AL QAEDA", the MB built their creed around Moh. bin Abdulwahhabs "reformation" aka they built it around Salafism. What you said doesnt make sense. if an MB says they hate Salafism they are probably doing so for self preservation with the state

>>128676751
Get back to work for your TLA.

>>128682107
But then how come SA is against the Muslim Brotherhood. I thought SA would want to support all Islamic groups

>>128679751
I dunno, with a relatively rare flag like jordan you might as well be namefagging anyway. At least he's not tripfagging.

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Qatar is rich, but can it really stand it's ground against KSA & allies?
Even with Iran, it seems quite weak apart from enormous wealth

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>>128682361

BECAUSE SAUDI ARABIA ISNT "SALAFI" ARE YOU FROM REDDIT FRIEND??????? THE SAUDS ARE A MONARCHY, THE REASON WHY THEY GAVE SISI SO MUCH MONEY TO QUENCH THE ISLAMIC MENACE IS BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT THAT TO SET A PRECEDENT AND HAVE THEIR SALAFIS STAGE A COUP

>>128681735
Iran is the #1 state sponsor of terrorism in the world

https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2010/170260.htm

>Designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1984, Iran remained the most active state sponsor of terrorism in 2010. Iran’s financial, material, and logistic support for terrorist and militant groups throughout the Middle East and Central Asia had a direct impact on international efforts to promote peace, threatened economic stability in the Gulf, and undermined the growth of democracy.

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>>128676751
look like qatar intel proxying on /pol? Is it really true? Am I sleeping?

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>>128676797
>>says Sisi's coup is illigitmate and hates the war on Yemen

Qatar was part of the war on Yemen
Confirmed for larping expat
Opinion completely discarded

>>128682684
Yeah but the terrorism they fund only blows up sandniggers so who fucking cares.

Saudis fund terrorism in the west.

>>128682586
I think I understand: the salafists could potentially overthrow the monarchy and install a theocracy sort of like in Iran. Is that right?

>>128682438
Thin end of the wedge.

Anonymity is the primary factor that differentiates us from Reddit and Facebook tier self-censorship.
It's what makes this site what it is and must be aggressively protected.

>>128682728
No go back to sleep

>>128682586
Then why do they fund AL Qaeda, HTS, Taliban and LeS? Do these Salafis not count

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism

Saudi Arabia is said to be the world's largest source of funds and promoter of Salafist jihadism,[97] which forms the ideological basis of terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda, Taliban, ISIS and others.

>>128682586
you said earlier that salami = nigger, wasasbi = black man

same shit

and then you said MB built their shit from salafmism which is based off moh. bin al-wasabi who is, according to wiki in the first sentence, wassabi, and SA is wasabi so EXPLAIN YOURSELF SAND NIGGER THIS SHIT MAKES NO SENSE

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>>128676751
>chromed HKs

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>>128682361
>>128682586
>>128682857
>>128682985
\i just realized why this might seem so confusing to you having taken all your info about the ME and Saudi from Reddit comments but please read the concept of "The Caliphate" or AL KHILAFA, and why that might not be such a good thing for the monarchies of the middle east, so they appease or quench the Salafis as they go along depending on the situation, The Sauds aren't really even Muslim since all they do is gamble and fuck whores in Monaco.

>>128682728

get fucked

>>128682738

>hates the war on Yemen
>refuses to shill/ say good things about it in the media to the extent that MBC group is shilling
>is forced to go UP UNTIL NOW T|YOU DUMB AMERICAN CUNT. GO TO THE WIKIPEDIA PAGE
<<

>>128682961
Anyone can pretend-namefag, though.

Tripfags are the worst since it's like having accounts.

>>128680132
Them Arabs like holding hands with other men too.

>>128682972

Saudi Monarch and Saudi Mullahs are 2 different things.

Monarchy has to enforce sharia because the people WANT sharia. In 1960s, the Shah of Iran did away with sharia and what happened? Revolution.

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>>128683204

Go to what Wikipedia page? Qatar was literally part of the fucking war you lardass brit expat

>>128676797
If you want us to hear your side of the story must make a thread like this you faggot. Thank you for your input.

>>128683244
Anyone can, and if the majority does, this site is dead.

I'm being more autistic about it than I usually would because of all the newfag waves recently. They need to learn what's what early or else we get a few dozen new tripfags in a year.

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>>128676797
-tfw you know it's intel bashing hard for one of the side.

>>128683612
Didn't the CIA have something to do with that one? Iran before the ayatollahs seemed pretty chill.

>>128683204
if youre going to make a thread, and insist on bumping it for visability - presumably for (a) discussion and (b) TO SHARE WHAT YOU KNOW, you best start answering questions when someone asks it, in the most basic and easiest way possible, because if you havent noticed, 90% of this website are usa/can/aus/nz and euope, and truth be told NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SANDNIGGERS you fucking redditor

>>128682738
this. also the part about aljazeera is utterly a schizophrenic delusion from OP, Aljazeera attacks Iran like 24/7

>>128683204
i was with you til you said the saudis fucked whores in monaco. everyone knows they go to bahrain to fuck their whores.

>>128682961
giving yourself a name doesn't make you less anonymous

name related

>>128680803
>dictatorship
>elections

>>128676751
FINALLY someone explains this with some good ol' greentext

thanks jordanbro

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>>128683775
mfw stupid intel doesnt know it and heard about us only on internet

>>128683914
Yes it does. Especially when that name becomes habitual. Being anon is important for this website's culture.

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>>128683622

Listen to me very closely because Im not going to spell it out again you dumb fucking American nigger, The GCC consisits of:

KSA :D :D
UAE
Qatar :D :D
Bahrain
Oman
Kuwait

BUT MORE IMPORTATNLY:

Qatar = Al Jazeera
Saudi Arabia = MBC Group

The war is fought with propaganda to prove legitimacy, QATAR WAS FORCED TO GO TO WAR YOU DUMB CUNT DUE TO IT BEING IN THE GCC - BUT THE 1000-2000 SOLDIERS DONT MATTER AS MUCH AS THEIR INTERNATIONAL MEDIA SHILLING THE WAR l=LIKE MBC GROUP WAS DOING AND THE QTARIS REFUSED TO COOPERATE UNTIL THEY WERE KICKED OUT COMPLETLEY

t. JORDANIAN YOU FUCKING CUNT. WE DONT HAVE DIASPORA HERE WE DONT HAVE ANY MONEY TO GIB TJHEM

>>128682361
saudis are wahabi anglo zionists

they are afraid of the muslim brotherhood because of its popular support, they could threaten their rule over the arab lands

>>128676797
The us's biggest problem is that war is profitable for both the us politicians pushing it and the far off funders who will also line their pockets with us tax payer money. When we go to war in a country we give one side of that fight massive resources and money. Outsiders and the corrupt total a net of 100bil and the us pays 1tril. Even a tiny percentage is a pretty good margin when you get to play with imaginary numbers.

>>128684146
but anybody can have the name as long as nobody can prove that's really who they are

>>128684156
>BUT MORE IMPORTATNLY:
>
>Qatar = Al Jazeera
>Saudi Arabia = MBC Group

The most important question remains unanswered:

How does this affect beIN SPORTS :DDDDD

Let me try an analogue. Salafists and Wahhabists are kind of like the Crusaders. They want to establish kingdoms ruled by their religion and they're willing to get violent. Even though Christian kingdoms liked the idea of Christians killing infidel Muslims back then, they no way in hell wanted ravaging crusader armies in their kingdoms, even though they were fine supplying them while they were away.

>>128676751
When the fuck are Saudi Arabia and Iran going to directly fight it the fuck out? Both of those countries are causing massive problems in the world.

>>128676751
You are correct. Thanks for this thread Jordan brother

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>>128682985
>>128683775

>this fucking entitled little ungrateful shit angry because no one will spoonfeed 100% him even though i spoonfed him 90%

this fucking site is dead. i should have made this on infinity chan

>>128680202
Please respond me Jordanian bro.

>>128684545
make it on asschan instead nigger

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>>128676751
RARE

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>>128684545
>intel
>bashing for one side
>realize can't pull his bs thru
>I probably go away

true intel kek.....plz dont come back

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>>128684555

>>128684431
1. It's a possible gateway to tripfagging, which we can all agree is disgusting but could be attractive to t_d immigrants if they aren't told to remain anon early and often.

2. Just because anyone can take the name doesn't mean people will. It usually remains as distinctive as a tripfag, just less secure.

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>>128684545
>dune coon gets mad over nothing
No wonder Israel whips yalls ass erry time

>>128676751
Well said,

The saudi leadership is going to get there nation fucked over.

>>128684816

Oh wow you got me

Thanks for adding nothing and trying to deflect, sharia blue

>>128685211

>The most r/the_donald reply in this thread

>>128684555

I will when I watch the videos portubro, I can't write now

>>128676797
>pretty much this. enough with the stupid fucking theories and the "let me tell you about your region" mentality. You have the privilege of being on an international website with knowledgeable people from across the world. use that privileged.

Doesn't matter. America supports as-Sisi and will continue to do so so BTFO!

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>>128684463

Fucking kek.

>>128681758
The MB sees itself more righteous than other Muslim groups and sects,which makes them want to dominate the Islamic world using any and all kinds of means, which includes deception and force. The MB is a militaristic and political group, while Salafism is an ideology, MB does not approve of Kingship that's why they want to topple them all, which basically makes them an enemy of Saudi Arabia and the rest of GCC.

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>>128676751
>>128676797

>implying

it's because their airline kicks the shit out of yours

>>128685549
>consistently calling others r*dditors
>>LITERALLY R*DDITSPACING IN EVERY POST

fucking bin yourself already Mohammad al-Bin Youseff

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>>128685549
>t. Reddit user
Lemme know how it feels to be thrown from a roof when isis behead your royal family

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>>128685549
Botir, Aziz or Al-Horizmi......what you trying to say?

>>128684545
Time to leave then sand nigger.

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>>128685739
>>128685770
>>128685874

looks like someone does not like the information being posted itt.

>>128684545
>>128685959

So what does all this have to do with allah?

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>>128685959
>information
>sand niggers are an untrustworthy lot who constantly fight amongst themselves
This ain't news you ignorant sand ape. Why do you think all 3 major religions started in ME? cuz you faggots needed it the most.

>>128676751
Why are the Qataris willing to engage with Iran instead of just towing the line with the other Gulf States? Or was this spat caused more so by their support of Muslim Brotherhood groups + Al Jazeera? I'm still confused why they support these elements, considering they're a Sunni absolute monarchy just like SA + UAE

>>128678785
Mubarak was a dictator. Morsi wasn't.

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>Qatar were the good guys all along

I'M SORRY QATAR

I HAD NO IDEA

>>128685959
What information? You'd done nothing but namefag and run your arrogant mouth as if everyone is supposed to know exactly what's going on with a million different sand nigger groups each with at least two different names all fighting each other.

>>128686372
Fuck off back to
>>>/biz/rael

>>128676797
>sisi

>>128680121
So pretty much this?

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>>128686449

I actually agree, Qatar did nothing wrong in this instance.

>>128686515

esh al akhbar 3ndk?

>>128686283
>>128686476

if you don't like it, fucking leave then. Stop trying to deflect. Your shills really need to be paid more, Pay peanuts get literal monkeys.

>>128681895
Israel is a terrorist organization that terrorizes palestinians,

>>128677304
>>128676797
>>128676751

Glass.
Parking.
Lot.

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>>128676751
RELINQUISH
THE
WORLD
CUP
HOSTING
RIGHTS
OR
GET
BOMBED
THE
FUCK
OUT
,
SHIT-SKIN
SCUM

I think the right thing to do in this instance is supply all sides with as many weapons as they need to efficiently kill each other.

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>>128686831
>shills
Being paid to shit on sand niggers would be pretty sweet. I just like the threads where y'all chimp out and act like you aren't Americas vassal. Be happy with the next war about to drop;^)

>>128686361
My opinion is that Qatar wanted to rival Saudi Arabia in influence over the region. Al-Saud didn't like that. So as to pressure Qatar to be a little sister again they came up with this "ironic" pretext of supporting terrorism, which everyone in the GCC has a hand on. Trump's visit to Riyadh was an opportunity, adding this to the past disagreements with Al-Thani, the timing was ripe.

>>128681492
Fascinating stuff

>>128676797
>>128676751
So, expect an Iran war in next few years?

>>128687009
With the help of other arabs. Who do you think is selling the land Jude are using for settlements. Semites are the true problem

>>128686831
la shay' hatta alan lknk taerif 'akthar mimma 'afeal

>America tries to get Wold Cup rights for 2018 and 2020
>gives up 2018 to focus on 2020
>Hillary and company make a deal with Qatar for blood money by giving them the 2020 deal
>Bill Clinton shills for this (on wikipedia for 2020 US Fifa bid)
>Trump is fucking furious
>makes and winning presidential run to get the Fifa Cup to America

>>128687499
Iran will legitimately be ww3, iran is 10x the size of Germany in ww2, Iranians arent found if war, murder, or dying though.

>>128687444
Qatar do support terrorists group.Qatar do spread false news via Al Jazeera to fuck up the region. Qatar backs up the filthy Muslim Brotherhood.

These are facts.

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>>128687723

>That broken overly-orthodox Arabic

Either an expat or intelligence. Which is it?

>>128678714
neck yourself faggot

I hate brown people so much. Iran really needs to genocide u

Fucking hate Saudi Arabia. Also fucking hate Qatar. Hope they blow each other up.

If I had to pick a side, though, I'd choose the Saudis and Egypt, just because they are anti Erdogan. Although I like Iran.

>>128687723
>>128686831

سلامات أنت وياه تتكلمون عربيزي؟ تراكم فشلتونا
افتخروا بلغتكم أو تكلمو بالإنجليزي زي الناس

>>128687957
Qatar was trying to appeal to all side in the region, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and even Israel.

>>128688032
:^)
Keep posting pls

>>128687911
Fond*

>>128676751
>gold-plated ak47s

Mfw

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>>128688222

مسكتك !!!!

>>128688217

انت ايش رايك في اللي بنقوله. الرجاء التصحيح اذا اخطأنا

>>128688217
Nah man, Qatar was fucking things up, and loves to fuck things up, don't you remember Gadaffi's last speech, when he adressed Qatar of all the arab countries ? Did you forget the Al Jazeera coverage of the Arab Sprinshit ?

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>>128688406
مواصلة الحديث غويم!!

>>128688217
Ksa is cozying up to israel tho

>>128688217
But doesn't Oman have this position.
How come SA won't allow Qatar to be neutral to Iran, but is okay with Oman being relatively Pro-Iranian

moonrunes thread post ur moonrunes

>>128676751
>WHITU PIGGU
I don't give a fuck if all of you die

>>128680516
lmao

>>128688406
>>128688756
I can speak moonrunes

these guys are both blaming the jews

>>128688925
Qatar ain't neutral to Iran. Qatar supports Muslim brotherhood, Muslim brotherhood are supported by Iran, therefore Qatar and Iran are very close.

>>128689029
Those aren't moonrunes newfag

>>128688925
Oman is not really part of the saudi world. Oman used to be a big empire, and now they kinda do there own thing with there own version of Islam and keep good relations with everyone.

They are basically the swedes of Arabia without the cuckdoms

>>128688217
To me it just sounds like Qatar are shit-stirrers, and that Trump went to the Arabs and said "I'm sick of your fucking bullshit, stop", and that SA saw this as an opportunity to beat Qatar's ass, before Qatar stirs up shit in SA.

Something does sound fishy in this. I feel like secretly Iran is pulling the strings behind Qatar, and using Qatar as a proxy for all of the shit-stirring.

>>128689309
It's like you didn't even read the OP properly faggot

>>128676751
So Qatar doesn't want war with Iran but the rest of the Arab world does and Trump is forcing their hand?

That's kinda sad. The Middle East is going to get even more fucked up if all out war starts and the whole world will be dragged into it.

I'm not fighting Persians that's for sure. Its the Sunnis causing all these problems.

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>>128676797
>You have the privilege

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>>128689309
>>128688756
>>128688406
Hold up---So yoooos be sain, that the Joos are really pulling the strings in Qatar, to stir up all the shit in the Middle East?

>>128684463
>beIN SPORTS
m8 bein is not working here I am shitting myself

>>128689465
>>So Qatar doesn't want war with Iran but the rest of the Arab world does and Trump is forcing their hand?

Nop, Qatar is backstabbing the Arab world by supporting the muslim brotherhood, by brainwashing the arab masses who religiously watch Al Jazeera, and by having Iran as an Ally.

>>128689465
>>I'm not fighting Persians that's for sure. Its the Sunnis causing all these problems.

Muslim brotherhood want to establish their state.
Iran wants to expand because of their religious believes.
Arab nations wants the statuts-quo.

>>128688222
>>128688756
LARPing expat detected.


>>128688406
مسألة آراء ما يحتاج لها تصحيح


>>128688531
That also falls into thier game, Gaddafi was openly hostile about GCC, needless to say both SA and Qatar wanted him down. Except Qatar played an active role.

>>128688778
No official diplomatic relations nor economic, unlike Qatar. At least nothing on the surface.

>>128688925
Oman isn't trying to rival SA for influence, they don't try to fuck up Al-Saud interests. They are neutral with Iran.

>>128689309
There has to be a reason why they are trying to stir shit up, right?
That's also possible. But It puts Qatar in a dire situation.

>>128689430
I did you tard.
And what I was thinking was exactly what this emu posted >>128689465

Only I think Iran is the bad guy, and what SA is doing is justified.

Oh Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world is it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-real-largest-state-sponsor-of-terrorism_us_58cafc26e4b00705db4da8aa

>>128689828
And here's the archive
>http://huffingtonpost com/entry/the-real-largest-state-sponsor-of-terrorism_us_58cafc26e4b00705db4da8aa
https://archive.is/GrEzp

>>128689672
In all fairness they all fund terrorism and backstabbing has been a tradition in Arab politics since Mohamed was around

Middle East all fucking TRIBES - Americans should back the fuck away but no we have made this shit so much more fucking horrible - I despair

>>128681895
>Hamas
>Funded by Iran
They declared loyalty to Saud years ago

>>128689932
Pissing in a sea of piss

>>128689935
Lol no, wtf are you talking about, Hamas is Muslim Brotherhood branch, they are Iran's dogs.

>>128689987
I think we took a huge dump into that sea of piss

>>128690093
how fugged are you from 1-10 right now ?

>>128690194
72

Thank you Jordan bro. Bumping for you.

Anyone able to comment on activity at the US Qatar military base? Would be good to know if anything is happening there, especially if Trump egged this on.

>>128689828
>>huffingtonpost
>>Wahhabisme
No mentions of Sayyid Qutb or the muslim brotherhood, just using the buzzword "wahhabism". This guy is a lefty trying to make S.A look evil as fuck, in order to make Trump a "terrorist state supporter".

Fucking lefties...

Does Qatar even stand a chance when it comes to war? Just looked it up on the map...its tiny. Also has a small native population

>>128690236
I count 78 in the thread

>>128676751
Can you elaborate on the demand of
>to launch a media attack on Iran
how much and what would they say you think?

>>128690323
>that filename
im onto you

>>128690171
Compare the number of deaths Americans have caused with those from the Iran-Iraq war. We fucked up the balance sure but things would have been fucked there with or without us. Who's to say Saddam wouldn't have started another bloody war by now?

>>128690323
;----)

>>128676751
alluah akbar
go shit in a pot achmed bin hussien al jafar

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>>128690323
>>128690388
>>128690416

>>128690312
They will never go into war.

>>128680484
>being elected after a coup you staged

top kek

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>>128690323

He deleted it! HE FUCKING DELETED IT!

IT WAS REALLY JIDF

>>128690546
If I pull off that flag would you die ?

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>>128690323

top fucking kek

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>>128690616
:DDDDDD

>>128690294
actually it does mention Qutb and the muslim brotherhood

if you can't read a book at least read an article

>>128684545
>this fucking site is dead. i should have made this on infinity chan

It is. The first decent chance of insider knowledge on a political issue in months and these recent fucking retards on here are clueless.

>>128676751
holy shit mudslimes are fucking manlets

>>128681895
What he should say is that Iran doesn't fund or abet the kind of terrorism that people on this board care most about. It's not a coincidence that ISIS is wahabbi/sunni. It's not a coincidence that 95+ percent of attacks are Sunni.

It's not happenstance that nearly 100 percent of Western jihadist attacks have a Sunni, Wahabbi linkage.

It's also not coincidental that areas with heavy amounts of SA mosque building eventually develop hardline conservative even radical views.

>>128690244
According to Aljazeera:
>US military: No plans to change our posture in Qatar

http://archive.is/N1ffw

>>128690312
War is highly unlikely. But if it happens Turkey and Iran will help Qatar.

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>>128690884
White people are the tallest people on the planet you fuck, only our home-made Orcs compare to us

>>128690969
>What he should say is that Iran doesn't fund or abet the kind of terrorism that people on this board care most about. It's not a coincidence that ISIS is wahabbi/sunni. It's not a coincidence that 95+ percent of attacks are Sunni.
>It's not happenstance that nearly 100 percent of Western jihadist attacks have a Sunni, Wahabbi linkage.
>It's also not coincidental that areas with heavy amounts of SA mosque building eventually develop hardline conservative even radical views.

Now this is some truth.

>>128690969
Isis is a branch of the Muslim Brothehood. No wahhabism linkage, only Qutbism and MB.

>>128687035
>>128687262
yes please

>>128681895
>Iran does fund terrorists, like Hamas in Gaza, and Hezbollah, also some limited support of the Houthis

Iran funds socialist revolutionaries

>>128690323
idf template034.png

kek

>>128678714
>>128678714
Don't believe the lies the media tells you about Iran being the 'greatest exporter of Terror in the world'.

The West is literally in bed with the country (SA) that is exporting ultra conservative Islam throughout the world - including thousands of mosques in West.

It is not random chance that ISIS is Wahabbi just as Saudi Arabia is.

Trump is blaming everything on Iran because it's politically convenient - that's it. If he cared about actually stopping terror he would tell SA to expedite reforms and curtail mosque building.

>>128691170
You don't know shit about what ur talking about do you

>>128690616
Kek at sandniggers getting baited by Proxy fags who pretend to be Israeli idf who pretend to be qatari

>>128676751
>>128676797
B-but muh drumph is fighting isis because saudis said so!!!

>>128691266
Isis is Muslim Brotherhood and Qutbism, fuck me man this board is full of retards, keep to trump related stuff, you don't know shit about what's going on in the other regions except using buzzwords.

>>128690815
>>128684545
He'd have had his thread deleted swiftly on cripplechan

>>128691380
this
breddy good bait though

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>>128689932 #
In 1920 all you needed to do was ignore them and take the oil. If any of their horsemen came near the oil pumps just shoot on sight. But nooooo... you had to install these tribal cunts in power.

Now they get off humilliating the West by hiring white whores to do their scat games and support terrorism behind our backs.

The entire existence of these tribal ass-backward monarchies is an insult to civilization.

>>128691266
"Recognition in The 9/11 Commission Report
Chapter 2 of The 9/11 Commission Report (2004), "The Foundation of the New Terrorism," cites Qutb for influencing Osama Bin Laden's worldview in these terms:

[Qutb] dismissed Western achievements as entirely material, arguing that 'nothing will satisfy its own conscience and justify its existence.'"

Mmmuh buzzword, mmmuh wahhabiisme

ITT: Retarded faggots exalting Qatar
Al Jazeera sucks donkey balls

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>>128691519
>>128691380

Damage control

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

>>128682684
They fight regional battles against Israel, and are one of the largest resistance groups against ISIS.

You are completely swallowing state propaganda so that you don't think about Saudi Arabia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRF6GLBSTYc

>>128691519
Agreed

>>128691520
>The entire existence of these tribal ass-backward monarchies is an insult to civilization.
>said backward monarchies are more stable than Latin American "democracies"
>said backward monarchies have higher gdp per capita than Latin American "democracies"
>said backward Arabs have more scientific innovations in their history than Latin Americans
Don't cast stones when you can't even afford the rent on your glass house, Argentina.

>>128681735
Yes they do. They just don't haveas much spare cash lying around

https://www.memri.org/reports/al-qaeda-leader-ayman-al-zawahiri-bin-laden-emerged-muslim-brotherhood

Mmmmuh wahhabism

>>128686831

How likely is this to escalate into a larger regional conflict, into an actual shooting war?

>>128690403
tired of this ME bullshit- Ironically, because of OP, but Jordan is the only decent country, but they have intrigue too - Arab culture is so fucking complicated Americans really don't know what the fuck they are doing - Arabs are like reeds they bend in the wind when the wind blows - the west is the mighty Oak that can stand strong for awhile but will fall - the fucking reeds well they will always spring back

Joins the Muslim Brotherhood
See also: Sayyid Qutb
By the age of 14, al-Zawahiri had joined the Muslim Brotherhood. The following year the Egyptian government executed Qutb for conspiracy, and al-Zawahiri, along with four other secondary school students, helped form an "underground cell devoted to overthrowing the government and establishing an Islamist state." It was at this early age that al-Zawahiri developed a mission in life, "to put Qutb's vision into action."[26] His cell eventually merged with others to form al-Jihad or Egyptian Islamic Jihad.[20]

Mmmmuh Wahhabism

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>>128691744

I don't wanna see any more fucking retards using the buzzword "muh wahhabism".

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>>128691374
>>128691520

>>128691848

00.001% - wars can never be fought between nation states like the good ol days, now IRan and Turkey would immediately field for Qatar. Saudi will 100% be backed by the USA and Israel, but then the USA is a member of NATO and so is Turkey. IT just cannot happen, there's too much at stake

>>128691744
>>128691744

I dont like you very much

>>128692073
That's what they said before World War 1

>>128692180
None of these countries would want to go into war.
Qatar needs to calm down with their Al Jazeera propaganda and cut ties with the muslim brotherhood.

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>>128691374
>>128691520
>>128692033
What is this fucky shit.
Stop it with the proxies.

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my fucking sides
this is what the front pages look like today

does this get us any closer to the middle east collapsing and just going away forever?

Qatar is a tiny powerless country with enemies st all sides.
They will fall

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>>128691567
>Someone influenced an infamous terrorist
>That must mean that person alone was 100 percent the influence

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/18/what-we-know-about-saudi-arabias-role-in-911/

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/opinion/saudi-arabia-an-isis-that-has-made-it.html?_r=0

I see the 'Global Center on combating Exremism' is getting to work even on anime message boards.

>>128692463
Archived
>https://nytimes com/2015/11/21/opinion/saudi-arabia-an-isis-that-has-made-it.html?_r=0
https://archive.is/6o7Ym

>>128692281
Nobody wanted to go to war back then either but alliances had to be upheld

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>>128691776
>said backward monarchies are more stable than Latin American "democracies"
Depends on the country. I'll always choose being a democracy over a shitty shariah ruled state though, even a Paraguay-tier democracy is better.

>said backward monarchies have higher gdp per capita than Latin American "democracies"
Our GDP per capita is not bad at all.
But yeah it's easy when you are sitting in a lake of oil. It's no merit at all. We actually produce value-added industrial products like flat screen TVs and satellites. Those industries will still be there when the oil runs out.
>said backward Arabs have more scientific innovations in their history than Latin Americans
Several Nobel Prizes here alone say otherwise. Every time someone gets a bypass surgery it is thanks to the Argentine doctor that invented that procedure.

When was the last time an Arab country won a STEM Nobel Prize?

Keep defending these animals though, it's amusing.

>>128692392
Translate pls

>>128692392
which mag? summary for us who no moonspeak?
url?

>>128692371

every single intelligence agency is lurking this thread.

>>128692392

Translated for non-Arabic speakers:

""QATAR THE GREAT BETRAYAL

21 years. Our patience has run out. Doha has been singled out.""

>>128692555
>>128692584

>>128692473
based norway archive bro

It not going to be a shooting war due to US bases.

You might have war by proxy, or coups

>>128692618
>every single intelligence agency is lurking this thread.
Which one do you belong to, just curious?

>>128692473
you must be a bot....

>>128676797
I pretty much figured out it was all about Qatar restoring relations with Iran and not about ISIS/Al-Qaeda.

>>128692555
Qatar
the great betrayal
21 years.. patience is over.. and so Doha is isolated

doesn't Qatar have a shit tonne of money invested in Britain?

>>128692618
Why do the intelligence agencies care about what we have to say?

To you guys: Trump is the fucking man! MAGA!

>>128692685
Mossad prolly

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>>128692493
>Keep defending these animals though, it's amusing.
I like playing devil's advocate.

>We actually produce value-added industrial products like flat screen TVs and satellites.
>satellites
Too bad you can't launch them. Pic very related.

Where does bahrain figure into all this with its large shia population and the recent killing of protestors and crackdowns on their shia press? Does it being Saudi playground prevent any major happenings?

>>128685661
>MB does not approve of Kingship
so what do they want instead, democracy or caliphate? because they sound like they want caliphate but they do participate in elections if allowed.

>>128692728
He has some sort of api alarm every time someone posts a non archived link

>>128692806
kek no one likes trump more than the Sunni Arab nations m80

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>>128676751
Sounds like bs. I'm waiting for regular radio show that will start in some hours where real mideast experts will tell what is really going on.

>>128692840
LOL!!

Is Saudi fucking Arabia that is working with Israel against Syria, Iran, Hezbollah,.. the Saudi royals might be Jews for what is known.

>>128676751
>>128676797

Excuse my ignorance but if the MB are a bunch of crazy muslims who want to implement sharia, then that's who we should be against here. Obviously SA has no interest in seeing the ME turn into a caliphate so they would oppose the MB, but in this specific case the interests of the west and SA seem to align as far as I understand. Why is Qatar backing a group of fanatic islamic extremists? I thought Qatar was supposed to be westernized with their hosting a world cup soon and all that media jazz. Is Qatar also basically a bunch of crazies who want to implement sharia?

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>>128692392
top fucking kek

>>128692392
>>128693094
So.... Happening confirmed?

>>128676751
good thread.

What triggered the current rift between Qatar and SA?

>>128676751
Basically it's like this, imagine you have a younger, successful and ambitious younger brother. For the most part he's a fucking twit who does his best to interfere with your oil business but you ignore him and do your own thing. Then all of a sudden, you and all your buddies are being attacked by groups who demand you get the fuck out of the country and never come back. Then, later you discover that your dickish younger brother had been giving support to these groups from the very start.

THEN, one of your best mates (Mubarak) gets overthrown by an asshole (Morsi) who is dedicated to overthrowing you and replacing you with like-minded people. Once he gets his ass thrown out and replaced with a friendly leader (Sisi), your brother does everything in his human power to make his life impossible.

After warning your brother over and over again to stop being such a fucking asshole, he keeps on promising he'll stop, only to sponsor even more extremist groups.

Nothing in your brother's behavior shows he's even willing to stop. Can you understand why the GCC has had enough of Qatar's shit?

>>128692863
We have the technology, we used to launch stuff in the 1970s... see Gamma Centauro rocket.

It's just more cost-effective to have others launch them nowadays. Just like NASA renting Russian rockets.

>>128692753
Qatar, Egypt and the Saudis.
They are swimming in so much money they are buying farmland in Paraguay these days, as "insurance" in case food prices rise.

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so, 2022 world cup will have a post-apocalyptic theme?

>>128686444
yeah tell me more about my country plz, Morsi did in one year what Mobarak couldn't dare do in 30 years

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>>128693045
shit the goyim knows about markhan bin ibrahim
delet this

>>128693247
Nuke them all

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>>128692618
>21 years. Our patience has run out. Doha has been singled out.""
So basically pic related.

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>>128692929
Nobody except ME!

Who says Saudi Arabia can't be sexy?

>>128676751
So why isn't Qatar trying to push for a coup in Arabia. There is a lot of conflict between Salman and Co., why isn't Qatar trying to play that division?

>>128693093
>Why is Qatar backing a group of fanatic islamic extremists? I thought Qatar was supposed to be westernized with their hosting a world cup soon and all that media jazz. Is Qatar also basically a bunch of crazies who want to implement sharia?
The entire Arabian peninsula is governed under Sharia law. Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, and Kuwait are all under Sharia. The majority of Arabs in most of the aforementioned nations also regard themselves as Salafists. So yes, according to secular Westerners, they are "fanatic islamic extremists".

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>>128686515
>>128687723
>>128688222
But the important question is: How will all this affect drag racing in Qatar???

(and witnessed)

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>>128676751
>Trump is going with his "Iraq and Iran were equal opposing forces" theory
Interesting.

Jordan seems like the only civilized Arab country. Maybe I'm wrong. The king is the rightful Caliph by any measure and seems to be an interesting character in the realm of world politics.

>>128693181
the saudi papers and media have been like this for two weeks now
they were always very restrained about everything but now it seems they were given the green light and went crazy

>>128683665

I'll tripfag on boards without IDs, so people can follow a thread more easily without trolls hijacking a name.

On /pol/ it's unnecessary since we have a means to see who is who in a given thread. Honestly I think thread IDs should be universal at least. maintain anonymity while also maintaining cohesion to a conversation.

>>128692392
Fucking despicable propaganda. Trying to stir up the people against their brothers and sisters.

>>128692897
They want a caliphate, but they don't name it so because it doesn't appeal to anyone but them. They are hypocritical, as I said they will do anything to achieve their goals. That's why they will participate in elections, but once they hold the power, you will see their true self.

what if saudi goes in with its new weapons from america and makes a fool out of itself because they are so inept even with top of the line kit

>>128693320
>It's just more cost-effective to have others launch them nowadays. Just like NASA renting Russian rockets.
>Just like NASA renting Russian rockets.
At $70 million a seat, NASA is getting gyped hard. And the Russian renting ends next year as can be seen in aforementioned image(CCtCap Demo Mission 2).

>>128682684
>State.goy

Have any other sources? Wikileaks maybe?

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>>128693556
>the only civilized Arab country
It's certainly one of the better ones.
And Raina is a qt

>>128681895
kek you are so ignorant and brainwashed . HEZBOLLAH is not terrorist , they DON T BLOW UP THEMSELF and they don t attack CIVILIANS , HAMAS is supported by saudi arabia , HAMAS hates iran and supports the " REBELS " in syria . on the other hand THE USA supports " rebels " in syria that not only attack civilians and blow themself up , they also kill prisoners violating several international laws

>>128693679
Thread IDs = best invention ever.
I remember when fuckheads would start to impersonate OP half way through on serious discussions. urghhhh

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>>128693247
I liked Mubarak--he straight up looked like an ancient pharaoh.


It's time for Saudi Arabia's Canada to get what has been long over-due for our Canada.

>>128676751
This is interesting perspective.

Why is this happening now? I understand that the SA/USA/Israel faction have a vested interest in keeping the lid on MB malcontents, and they are easily in a position to bully Qatar for not doing their part in that.

Why did this immediately after the Trump visit and weapons deal? What kind of agreement of strategic quid pro quo is occurring between the USA and SA, is it simply getting Qatar to denounce MB or is there something more?

What does the United States get out of this besides increased security for SA?

>>128693679
>Honestly I think thread IDs should be universal at least
This
it cuts down on samefagging which in turn cuts down on cancer threads

>>128693483
>Nobody except ME!
i don't think so
they get actual benefits from Trump being president when it comes to his stance on Iran

>>128693789
They reduced samefagging too, now you need a phone or proxy server at least.

>>128693355
honest question, would they kill you for posting that? also your thoughts on the house of saud being jews.

>>128692392
funny cause they put there the pic of HEZBOLLAH LEADER side by side with qatar leaders , but at the same time thE STORY is " QATAR SUPPORTS ISIS " meanwhile hezbollah fights BOTH ISIS AND fake scum rebels in syria , this sounds like 1984 newspapper

>>128683612
>In 1960s, the Shah of Iran did away with sharia and what happened? Revolution.

that was a CIA operation. this isn't even debatable.

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>>128693779
wtf I love hezbollah now

>>128693372
this would be the best option, but too many Western interests in the region

>>128693738
If there's a war for Qatar, it'll be fast and brutal. Just throw up a naval blockade, a no-fly zone, blow up all their anti aircraft defenses and you could take the country in little more than a month.

Issue is America's biggest overseas base is in Qatar. That's why the GCC has been begging the Americans to move it out so they can really get Qatar to the negotiations table before a war

>>128693346

what did he do in one year?

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>>128693774
Daughter is cuter.

>>128693973
You must be some redditfag who doesn't like anonymous posting.

>>128680245
Drumpf should ally with Iran and Russia to invade Mecca and make it Shia lul

>>128693712
>Fucking despicable propaganda.
they don't care
they planned this all from the beginning it seems
UAE and KSA didn't inform America beforehand apparently

>>128693949
SA is our security in the ME...for whatever reason, the US and SA governments have always seen eye to eye.

To be honest Trump said he wanted all of this Muslim bullshit to end, and he and SA are probably going to end it.

Trump said the Arab Spring is a catastrophe after all. I imagine it has something to do with that, and making sure it doesn't happen any time soon.

And I am more than sure the Saudi royal family agrees 100% with that

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>>128693979
just. look. at. that. nose.

So what is the end result of this happening? What does /pol/ think will happen? Are we (myflag) bout to get dragged into some shit to free the shit out of a country again? That's all I really care to know about honestly

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>>128676751
Is this going to lead to more dead sand-niggers and/or me having to pay more for gas?

>>128694245
Pls respond
>>128692878

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>>128687723
>>128688222
>>128688756

This is the second or third time I see a LARPing "Qatari" in these types of threads.

We can easily spot out this kind of Jewry, but I highly recommend our non Arab brethren to lurk carefully and not to immediately believe anything a "Qatari" poster says.

>>128694295
Unacceptable!
Trump wants SA to cuck the muslims back to being calm and not terrorists. Yes he'll be hailed as a hero for ending islamic terrorism but this is only temporary.
The only solution is to end islam.
Unless, somehow, this buys enough time for a lasting reformation. But doubtful.

>>128676751
Good thread OP, bumping for great justice

>>128676751
>>128676797
nice, thanks for this

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>>128694382
King Salman seems based. I've heard he wants his son to succeed him rather than his brother Nayef

>>128694411
No one really wants war. Qatar has to clean up it's act, or it's going to get BTFO